=== histo_ is now known as histo [01:44] Knome if you are here I need help! [01:45] Hi Charlie you probably don't remeber me but I need your help with 8.10 if you can [01:46] or can anyone help me [01:47] mooch337: maybe if you tell us what the problem is (in detail) someone can tell you if they can help [01:48] I have a dial up modem and can't get it configured used wvdialconf no modem detected [01:49] mooch337: is the modem internal? [01:49] yes [01:50] mooch337: open a terminal and type 'lspci'. That will give you a list of devices, see if the modem is among them [01:50] ok give me a sec I am using my win box bbrb [01:51] The modem is there [01:52] mooch337: can you see what device it is? It should be something like ttyS0 or maybe ttyS1 [01:52] ummm let me see... [01:54] Modem: Pctel Inc. HSP Micromodem 56 [01:54] mooch337: ok...try this...in the terminal type 'ls -l /dev/modem' [01:54] alright hang on [01:56] ls-l command not found [01:57] mooch337: there is a space betwee ls and -l [01:57] I tried that too and said no such file or directory let me try it again [01:57] mooch337: ok...if it says no file or directory then the link isn't there. [01:58] mooch337: try this....in the terminal type 'cat /var/log/messages | grep modem' [01:58] cannot access /dev/modem [01:59] quotation in between? [01:59] mooch337: no quotes. [02:00] ok [02:00] brb let me try this [02:02] then what [02:04] do I need to type something else afterwards? [02:04] mooch337: if it returned with nothing then the modem wasn't discovered...which doesn't surprise me. The bad news...it is a winmodem, and they are unsupported. The good news, there IS a driver for ubuntu for them [02:04] Yeah I know I dealt with it on Dapper Drake [02:04] mooch337: you can find it here.....http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pctel-linux/....but it needs to be compiled so you need to install the gcc compiler, kernel sources, and such. [02:05] So once I download the driver what do I do next [02:05] mooch337: the README file in the tar.gz looks to have a pretty good set of instructions on how to compile it and install it. [02:05] ok [02:06] mooch337: I did this for a winmodem once a couple of years back and it went pretty well...wasn't too hard to get working [02:06] here's a question which driver is going to be the right one though [02:06] mooch337: the one labeled for Ubuntu [02:07] but the kernel is a different version does it matter [02:07] mooch337: it is the best bet you are going to have at getting the modem to work. I would expect it to work since it will be compiled against the kernel source for YOUR kernel version [02:09] mooch337: just so you know...I googled 'Pctel Inc. HSP Micromodem 56 in ubuntu' and found quite a bit of information about getting that modem to work. [02:09] what about how get everything set up on the desktop since network tools was omitted [02:10] mooch337: I don't understand the question [02:11] The Network box for dial up cannot be found so do you know other ways to get the ISP info in a configured box for dial up? [02:12] mooch337: I haven't worked with dialup in years, and not at all on an ubuntu install, sorry [02:12] I wish I had highspeed I wouldn't be going through this headache [02:12] mooch337: I would expect the network box to show up once you get the modem driver installed and the system recognizes there is a modem there [02:13] I hope or may have to use wvdialconf [02:13] mooch337: another approach might be to use the windows drivers with ndiswrapper. I have never tried that, but you might see if there is any info on the web about it [02:13] mooch337: I have used wvdial and it works well, but won't do anything until the modem is running properly [02:13] hmmmm thats interesting didn't think about that [02:13] true very true [02:14] ndiswrapper how does it work [02:15] mooch337: you need the drivers for windows, then you install ndiswrapper (it might already be there...I'm not sure). In a terminal you type ndiswrapper -i (filename) where filename is the .inf file for the driver [02:16] is ndiswrapper used with conjunction with a winmodem maybe? [02:16] mooch337: I have never done it, but you might find info on the web from someone who has [02:18] ok I'll check into then well let me try gettin the drivers and if I run into some trouble I'll comeback Thanks for your help thOr I really appreciate it! [02:18] mooch337: there appears to be a mailing list for the modem, so you might find help there...archives.linmodems.org [02:18] yeah I am gonna need it these modems hate cupsys [02:19] mooch337: I haven't used a modem in years. This laptop doesn't have one, but I have a pcmcia modem if I ever need it. [02:19] yeah Highspeed is the ticket nowadays [02:19] mooch337: wireless [02:20] that too [02:21] I am gonna network these boxes evenually when I do get Highspeed I can't DSL nor Cable so I have to settle for satellite [02:21] get [02:22] from what I heard satellite has its ups and downs but that's all I can get well let me get going [02:22] mooch337: check and see if you have a wireless isp around. My last job was working as a network admin for one. We could get high speed service to rural areas via the same wifi you use in the house [02:23] isp wireless in a rural area ? [02:24] mooch337: yeah. We had a wifi hub on top of the water towers in the area north and east of Dallas. We could wifi a connection 7 miles or more so long as the house could SEE the top of the water tower [02:24] I know theres a cellphone tower close by [02:24] mooch337: where are you located? [02:24] in Mississippi [02:25] the tower is not too far from us and it was built for lack of communication during Katrina [02:25] mooch337: might have one around. In areas like Arkansas or Missouri maybe not...the trees would be a problem. But in MS it isn't so hilly so you might have such service available [02:26] I'll check and see [02:26] well let me go thanks for your help thOr [02:27] good luck mooch337 [02:27] I am gonna need it [02:27] take care [02:54] hi guys, just installed xubuntu 9.04 on my old pc yesterday... It's my 2nd linux distro... I would just like to know what is the best reference books I could use to play, experiment or explore xubuntu... or is there a site which I could visit? thanks... [02:57] atom_fox: there is a system administrators guide (sag), a network administrators guide (nag), an introduction to bash scripting, advanced bash scripting...amongst others. All are available in pdf form. Check the linux documentation project [02:59] thanks man... [03:40] whats up booonties [04:16] Hey all was wondering how do I install an icon set from xfce-look.org? [04:20] Hey I have installed my drivers for my dial up modem but having a problem with wvdialconf [04:21] getting a error can anyone help me out [04:23] anyone? [04:27] is anyone familiar with dial up [05:27] I've installed xubuntu 9.04 on my old computer yesterday it's the first time that I used xubuntu, I did some changes regarding the desktop settings and now I'm having problems with the panels... After I've logged in today the panels does not appear and I can't access the pannel seetings, even from the settings manager... could someone give me a hand thanks [05:27] alt-f2 [05:27] xfce4-panel [05:27] that should bring up the panels again [05:29] chrisjomarmayor: did u get my response? [05:30] yup [05:30] I'll try it [05:30] it worked!!! [05:31] but does this mean that I have to type this everytime I open xubuntu? [05:32] no [05:32] what ull need to do is... [05:32] u still here? [05:34] well when u go to log out tick the box that says "save settings". log out then log back in. the panels should be there. once you have them appearing on log in I would untick "save settings" from then on out === Project2501 is now known as Guest45932 === Guest45932 is now known as _project2501 [11:01] hu [11:06] eh? [11:09] heya im using jaunty x64 with network manager and network-manager-vpnc plugin. on connect i always get the error "no valid vpn secrets". any idea what went wrong? [11:11] kora-chan: restart networkmanager [11:12] kora-chan: sudo /etc/init.d/networkmanager restart [11:12] Myrtti: thanks ill try it [11:13] s/networkmanager/NetworkManager/ [11:18] Myrtti: ok the second restart worked,.. wonder why it didnt work after the first reboot i made after installing it [11:18] Myrtti: thanks a lot [11:21] kora-chan: np [11:23] helo [11:25] need help for compiz on xubuntu [11:25] anyone online? [11:25] no [11:25] mellys: no one here *g* [11:25] !compiz | mellys [11:25] mellys: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz [11:26] mellys: as I said compiz on that computer is most likely not going to work [11:26] just wana try [11:27] it already failed.. you tried [11:27] it failed on the nvidia driver [11:27] !nvidia [11:27] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [11:42] mellys: How did that go? [11:44] heh.. I bet mellys will be back in 5-10 asking the same question and getting the same answer [11:44] thats when there will be an outburst.. so predictable :-) [12:03] I dot see any panel. I have upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 [12:04] any extra settings needed? [12:05] alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel' [12:05] why by default it has not come [12:06] !paste [12:06] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [12:06] muttman: please paste your .xsession-errors file here [12:06] no idea, it probably crashed [12:06] ok [12:07] and also, you might have to clear your session cache and xfce config if it happens again on next boot (for that, just "rm -r ~/.cache", and "mv .config/xfce4 .config/xfce4backup", from shell (ctrl+alt+f1 to go to shell mode)) [12:07] err. [12:07] whatever then [12:12] Sidi: http://pastebin.com/f3813195b [12:15] Sidi: did it hint anything why panel is not appearing? [12:17] wow [12:17] go to shell with ctrl+alt+f1, and please type the following commands [12:17] "rm -r ~/.cache", and "mv .config/xfce4 .config/xfce4backup" [12:17] oh, before, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop [12:17] and after you typed those two commands, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start [12:17] ok [12:17] with that you'll boot with a clear new xfce4 session [12:33] is there still problems with intel graphics ? [12:33] would i have problems with this jaunty with my mobile intel 915gm/gms 9100gml [12:37] shold i install ubuntu 8 instead [12:45] floating: i am using jaunty and a older version of the driver, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4 [13:55] Good mornin' [14:17] is ttyS1 a correct fonfiguration for a dial up modem? [14:18] depends on where you connected it [14:18] ttyS1 is com2 [14:19] floating, try searching forums for those models, heard mixed issues [14:19] hi there [14:20] can anyone help me with an xorg issue on a thinkpad? [14:21] TheSheep is there a way to look up where my modem is set at? [14:22] Mooch188: yes, follow the cable that sticks out of it, and see to which socket on the computer it is connected, then read what's written next to that socket. [14:23] hmmm ok brb [14:29] Hello. I have just installed Xubuntu and I am surprised that my volume keys don't do anything (Jaunty). in XEV the _do_ provide XF86AusioRaiseVolume or LowerVolume but nothing happens when I press them. Is this supposed to happen? [14:29] Do other people have working volume keys OOTB? [14:29] TheSheep I couldn't see any kindof number the PCI slot the modem is located is the 5th slot [14:30] when I installed the drivers for the modem the terminal told me where it was located but how do I located with the terminal [14:37] How do you check in the terminal to see where your modem is set at [14:42] Mooch188: ah, so it's a pci modem [14:42] Mooch188: try lspci [14:42] ok [14:43] dmesg | tail might also show you something relevant [14:47] 00:06 ? [14:47] 00:06 Pctel 56 Micromodem [14:47] let me try the other [14:49] ok got it! [14:49] ttsyS [14:49] is that the same as ttyS1 [14:53] no [14:54] TheSheep its located in ttyS [14:54] it has the letetrs s and y switched and lacks a 1 [14:54] the configuration screen is asking me to choose the port [14:55] my modem is at dev/ttyS [14:56] /dev/ttyS0 or 1 or 2 or 3 most likely [14:56] there is no ttyS [14:57] hmmm when I ran the command you gave me it located the modem at ttyS [14:59] TheSheep ok ttyS_PCTEL0 [15:00] is that ttyS0? [15:01] no [15:01] but it might exist [15:01] try it [15:03] ok [15:24] wtf? http://itmages.ru/view.php?action=view&id=4943&key=adf1de [15:47] TheSheep question for you I have installed my modem drivers one problem I have is trying to edit my dial up info when I enter my info with gedit I get an I?O error and the error is failed to write to State file [15:52] How do i replace the gedit file and have it saved without getting a error? [15:54] Mooch188: What command are you using which is giving you this? Something like: gksu gedit /etc/ppp/peers/provider or something? [15:56] sudo gedit /etc/wvdial.conf [15:57] I type this commmand out and save my settings then the terminal pops up with a error [15:58] I wonder if when I installed my drivers I didn't change my directory back to the driver instead of src would it have made a difference [15:59] when I was installing my drivers I was suppose to type cd ../ [15:59] "I/O error" of any kind usually hints toward hardware fail. But also, you should not use "sudo" with graphical applications. With gtk apps like gedit, use gksu. [16:00] hmmmm so should I replace sudo with gksu? [16:01] you think the drivers were not installed correctly? [16:03] thats my hunch [16:08] how can i activate the remote desktop ? [16:13] Mooch188: When is the last time you scanned your drive for errors? [16:15] I haven't in a little while I just did the install of 8.10 [16:17] What I don't understand is how before I saved the gedit with no errors and now a error pops up [16:17] how can i activate the remote desktop ? i cant find the remote desktop set up just the viewer [16:17] Mooch188: As I think I've already said. I/O error almost always means hardware failure of some kind. [16:18] as you know 8.10 does not have the Network box like the previous versions did [16:18] bad disk sectors, etc etc [16:18] hmmmm [16:19] I may try the drivers again sometimes my computer pops up with bad sectors and then corrects them but I may be wrong [16:20] I didn't have a problem with 8.10 install like I did before with the other drive I had [16:20] the other drive I installed dapper drake and after a while the drive pretty much died [16:21] couldn't run certain programs and just a lot of lock ups [16:23] I am gonna try the drivers one more time just to make sure because I think by me not changing my directory back from src to the modem driver dir might have caused a problem [16:24] According to my instructions that were posted for the older driver I had before I was suppose to drop down to the modem directory [16:25] genii: brb let try this again [16:43] genii: my usb card is conflicting [16:46] I bought a Startech USB card and I thought maybe linux might create a driver but its conflicting and I have a bad feeling its not compatibile [16:47] I probably need to see if can find some drivers for it? [16:58] Do you guys have working Volume keys OOTB? [17:03] Hi [17:03] How do I open a .bin file? [17:10] Q: is there any easy and user friendly program to brake encryptation and gain acsses to a wifi router. i have a legimit reason im much willing to tell. [17:13] ruadh: .bin could mean a number of things. Where is the file from, what is it? [17:20] well i realise this is quite a hot potato.. [17:26] I thought USB PCI cards were all compatible with linux [17:27] My modem won't run because of my USB card go figure [17:28] <_Pete_> premorphos: what do you mean exactly? don't you get access to wifirouter by logging in to it via www-browser? [17:28] <_Pete_> in case you know login/passwd [17:29] genii: you were right as sooon as I rebooted up came on a resource conflicting and its the usb card [17:29] my modem is in pci slot # 1 [17:30] I need to remember to read and make sure whatever I buy is compatible with Linux sucks being a newbie [17:31] i do? how?.. what i rely need is to go online. [17:32] <_Pete_> by using someones wifi without permission? [17:33] NO its my dads, but he had some one set it up, and my dad has never used a computer. [17:35] so he tells me i can use the brodeband as much as i like. but there is a problem, how since its encrypted [17:36] <_Pete_> and why exactly that's a problem? [17:38] how can i get online if i dont have the key? [17:39] <_Pete_> and your dad doesn't tell you that? [17:39] Hi Xubuntuistoj! [17:40] btw tnx for taking your time. he ses there is no password. so i gess no [17:40] <_Pete_> anyway login to the router and configure the password [17:41] Can anyone here explain/link me to an explanation on how I can install PCF or BDF fonts? the tutorials I found were really deprecated [17:41] ok sweet...how? [17:41] by cable? [17:41] <_Pete_> read the routers manual [17:41] <_Pete_> or do some smart googling [17:42] absolutly.. its in turkish,, since im visiting from sweden. [17:43] an IP is an IP even in Turkish [17:43] pete: il google.. i realyse im sounding a bit daft by now.. [17:43] ha ha i supose [17:45] tanx m8.. il do my homework better next time [17:46] <_Pete_> :) [17:48] pre.. depending on the router its default... like if its a Fritz! Box you can usually access by cable ant URL: fritz.box [17:50] il give you funny story to tell: i have installed all kinds of hackish tools and encryptation brakers, only to realise its a bit over my head having a hard time opening the terminal [17:51] Tex: tnx you saved me a headache [17:53] hi, since I removed close to 300 orphaned packages with synaptic, abiword hangs at startup. problem persists even after complete reinstallation, any ideas? [17:59] jkl: any rubbish in your .abiword directory? [18:00] errr .AbiSuite [18:00] maybe rename it [18:01] nothing unusual in there [18:02] rename the directory? [18:02] If only you and no other user on your box has issues, that might be it [18:03] can't hurt to try it [18:04] hard to tell coz im the only user, but i'll give it a go [18:05] nope, no joy with that approach, im afraid [18:05] sorry! [18:05] no worries! [18:05] thanks [18:06] I have a buffalo G54HP card that uses the b43 module... I've modprobed this but I still get an error: "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory" when I try to bring it up. I can't seem to figure out what hte issue is, any suggestions? [18:18] hi [18:19] does xubuntu support ATI display cards? [18:23] xorg does [18:23] and xubuntu uses xorg as the display system [18:26] yeason: i used kubuntu 3 days ago and it didn't support my ATI and x crashed, so is there an official statement that says that it really does ? [18:31] juxbox: hmm... I can't say whether or not there's anything official... but I took a quick look at the repos to double check and xorg ATI support is in there [18:32] hmm ok [18:33] since its in the repos I'd imagine it is, have you tried searching forums etc for the error you encountered [18:33] its possible its a known bug with a workaround [18:33] yeason: yes it was a bug, also it couldn't recognize my sound cards [18:36] hello hello [18:36] juxbox: what type of computer is this? [18:37] yeason: hp pavilion dv6 1105ee [18:37] does anyone know how to find out what your ip address is.. [18:37] gamepockets: lan ip or wan ip? [18:38] lan [18:38] ifconfig [18:38] f config ok, thanks [18:41] juxbox: I'm not sure what to tell you, people in here might be able to give you better advice if you tried again and actually gave them the errors [18:42] I'm sorry there's not much I can do, a quick google search didn't really reveal much [18:42] ya [20:04] hi [20:11] okay, I need help with configure make make install stuff guys [21:08] how to run thunar as root plz [21:08] :) [21:08] /j #ubuntu [21:40] curious what ppl use here to organize their music . right now I am using Exaile , but I am not really happy with it. [21:41] exaile or mpd [21:44] my collection needs to be retagged maybe. ugh. [21:55] hi [21:55] Anyone know much about how Xubuntu handles brightness keys? [21:56] I'm getting really laggy response using notify-osd [21:56] but if I use acpi_fakekey 224 it works nice and speedily [21:59] Who, is there a reason not to use acpi_fakekey then? [22:00] knome: well 2: 1. it requires root privelidges, 2) I don't know how to turn off what is already handling the keys [22:00] knome: I'd be happy if you have any suggestions [22:01] not really. haven't had to fight with any non/bad-wroking keys [22:02] can anybody tell me how to make the xfce panel transparent in 4.6? [22:08] let me rephrase that. anyone know how to make the panel transparent in xfce, but the icons opaque? I havv compiz, if that helps [22:13] knome: the keys do work ;) just not _right_ [22:18] anybody? [22:24] joey_ . I do not think that you can do that [22:29] joey_, you should ask #compiz maybe [22:29] joey. if you use the new version of gnome-do with the docky option. you can have the dock always on top....turn off animations, and shrink the icons. it will look exactly the same [22:29] I tried to do it with compiz as well. and asked around. the answer I got the most was "use awm" [22:29] I'm not thinking about the dock for applicatons, I've got cairo dock for that. I'm thinking more the dock at hthe top, with the menu and the system tray [22:30] *awn [22:30] and. what do you need in the sytem tray anyway ??? [22:31] probably not much. thanks! [22:31] problem solved ? [22:34] hi, since I removed close to 300 orphaned packages with synaptic, abiword hangs at startup. problem persists even after complete reinstallation, any ideas? [22:39] need some help setting up a network between a win lap and xub mac... [22:48] jkl . when you say complete reinstall. you manually removed the config files ( .AbiSuite in your home directory ) ? "complete" removal in Synaptic does not remove that btw... [22:50] ok well i was advised to do a complete synaptic removal and then restart the system before reinstalling, this didnt work. [22:50] i did not manually remove the files [22:51] common mistake . alot of ppl do not remove these files , reinstall , and encounter same problems. [22:51] and you should not have to restart system btw. [22:51] hmm, thanks for the tip, I will try this [22:51] n/p [23:03] hey guys I am needing some help with getting this wireless card wmp54g card working if anybody can let me know thanks.. [23:06] jimisrvrox wmp54g? what brand is that? [23:06] heh its a linksys [23:06] sorry no idea then [23:06] I forget how to look up the driver model.. [23:06] could be either broadcom or ralink [23:07] Hello there [23:07] Some distributions have special methods for installing the firmware. In general these consist of a special command entered at a terminal. [23:07] Ubuntu uses the following command: sudo /usr/share/b43-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh [23:07] What would be the command for xubuntu then? [23:08] i'd say the same. [23:08] Slonkie: hum I've tried but I get command not found [23:08] hm okay [23:08] it's not even there b43-fwcutter [23:08] in the /usr/share/ [23:09] I tired which b43-fwcutter but It didn't give me any path [23:27] are there any programs for xubuntu to control it with a microphone like vista has? === CYF is now known as CloseYetFar [23:48] frojnd, install b43-fcutter first [23:48] fwcutter [23:48] frojnd, sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter [23:48] then the file will be there [23:56] siDi: you around? [23:56] no [23:56] :) [23:56] heh [23:57] sry but i dont know anything about linksys cards either :p [23:57] im tryin to get this broadcom 4813 to work and thus far ive got this bcmwl5.inf installed... [23:57] says I have fwcutter already installed but im unable to access it to extract the .sys file.. [23:58] i think you should be using ndiswrapper [23:58] well I went that route as well and did ndiswrapper -l shows the driver is installed..then I did -m says theres a module there so..im hoping everything will work.. [23:59] nope didnt work..