[01:44] <mooch337> Knome if you are here I need help!
[01:45] <mooch337> Hi Charlie you probably don't remeber me but I need your help with 8.10 if you can
[01:46] <mooch337> or can anyone help me
[01:47] <th0r> mooch337: maybe if you tell us what the problem is (in detail) someone can tell you if they can help
[01:48] <mooch337> I have a dial up modem and can't get it configured used wvdialconf no modem detected
[01:49] <th0r> mooch337: is the modem internal?
[01:49] <mooch337> yes
[01:50] <th0r> mooch337: open a terminal and type 'lspci'. That will give you a list of devices, see if the modem is among them
[01:50] <mooch337> ok give me a sec I am using my win box bbrb
[01:51] <mooch337> The modem is there
[01:52] <th0r> mooch337: can you see what device it is? It should be something like ttyS0 or maybe ttyS1
[01:52] <mooch337> ummm let me see...
[01:54] <mooch337> Modem: Pctel Inc. HSP Micromodem 56
[01:54] <th0r> mooch337: ok...try this...in the terminal type 'ls -l /dev/modem'
[01:54] <mooch337> alright hang on
[01:56] <mooch337> ls-l command not found
[01:57] <th0r> mooch337: there is a space betwee ls and -l
[01:57] <mooch337> I tried that too and said no such file or directory let me try it again
[01:57] <th0r> mooch337: ok...if it says no file or directory then the link isn't there.
[01:58] <th0r> mooch337: try this....in the terminal type 'cat /var/log/messages | grep modem'
[01:58] <mooch337> cannot access /dev/modem
[01:59] <mooch337> quotation in between?
[01:59] <th0r> mooch337: no quotes.
[02:00] <mooch337> ok
[02:00] <mooch337> brb let me try this
[02:02] <mooch337> then what
[02:04] <mooch337> do I need to type something else afterwards?
[02:04] <th0r> mooch337: if it returned with nothing then the modem wasn't discovered...which doesn't surprise me. The bad news...it is a winmodem, and they are unsupported. The good news, there IS a driver for ubuntu for them
[02:04] <mooch337> Yeah I know I dealt with it on Dapper Drake
[02:04] <th0r> mooch337: you can find it here.....http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pctel-linux/....but it needs to be compiled so you need to install the gcc compiler, kernel sources, and such.
[02:05] <mooch337> So once I download the driver what do I do next
[02:05] <th0r> mooch337: the README file in the tar.gz looks to have a pretty good set of instructions on how to compile it and install it.
[02:05] <mooch337> ok
[02:06] <th0r> mooch337: I did this for a winmodem once a couple of years back and it went pretty well...wasn't too hard to get working
[02:06] <mooch337> here's a question which driver is going to be the right one though
[02:06] <th0r> mooch337: the one labeled for Ubuntu
[02:07] <mooch337> but the kernel is a different version does it matter
[02:07] <th0r> mooch337: it is the best bet you are going to have at getting the modem to work. I would expect it to work since it will be compiled against the kernel source for YOUR kernel version
[02:09] <th0r> mooch337: just so you know...I googled 'Pctel Inc. HSP Micromodem 56 in ubuntu' and found quite a bit of information about getting that modem to work.
[02:09] <mooch337> what about how get everything set up on the desktop since network tools was omitted
[02:10] <th0r> mooch337: I don't understand the question
[02:11] <mooch337> The Network box for dial up cannot be found so do you know other ways to get the ISP info in a configured box for dial up?
[02:12] <th0r> mooch337: I haven't worked with dialup in years, and not at all on an ubuntu install, sorry
[02:12] <mooch337> I wish I had highspeed I wouldn't be going through this headache
[02:12] <th0r> mooch337: I would expect the network box to show up once you get the modem driver installed and the system recognizes there is a modem there
[02:13] <mooch337> I hope or may have to use wvdialconf
[02:13] <th0r> mooch337: another approach might be to use the windows drivers with ndiswrapper. I have never tried that, but you might see if there is any info on the web about it
[02:13] <th0r> mooch337: I have used wvdial and it works well, but won't do anything until the modem is running properly
[02:13] <mooch337> hmmmm thats interesting didn't think about that
[02:13] <mooch337> true very true
[02:14] <mooch337> ndiswrapper how does it work
[02:15] <th0r> mooch337: you need the drivers for windows, then you install ndiswrapper (it might already be there...I'm not sure). In a terminal you type ndiswrapper -i (filename) where filename is the .inf file for the driver
[02:16] <mooch337> is ndiswrapper used with conjunction with a winmodem maybe?
[02:16] <th0r> mooch337: I have never done it, but you might find info on the web from someone who has
[02:18] <mooch337> ok I'll check into then well let me try gettin the drivers and if I run into some trouble I'll comeback Thanks for your help thOr I really appreciate it!
[02:18] <th0r> mooch337: there appears to be a mailing list for the modem, so you might find help there...archives.linmodems.org
[02:18] <mooch337> yeah I am gonna need it these modems hate cupsys
[02:19] <th0r> mooch337: I haven't used a modem in years. This laptop doesn't have one, but I have a pcmcia modem if I ever need it.
[02:19] <mooch337> yeah Highspeed is the ticket nowadays
[02:19] <th0r> mooch337: wireless
[02:20] <mooch337> that too
[02:21] <mooch337> I am gonna network these boxes evenually when I do get Highspeed I can't DSL nor Cable so I have to settle for satellite
[02:21] <mooch337> get
[02:22] <mooch337> from what I heard satellite has its ups and downs but that's all I can get well let me get going
[02:22] <th0r> mooch337: check and see if you have a wireless isp around. My last job was working as a network admin for one. We could get high speed service to rural areas via the same wifi you use in the house
[02:23] <mooch337> isp wireless in a rural area ?
[02:24] <th0r> mooch337: yeah. We had a wifi hub on top of the water towers in the area north and east of Dallas. We could wifi a connection 7 miles or more so long as the house could SEE the top of the water tower
[02:24] <mooch337> I know theres a cellphone tower close by
[02:24] <th0r> mooch337: where are you located?
[02:24] <mooch337> in Mississippi
[02:25] <mooch337> the tower is not too far from us and it was built for lack of communication during Katrina
[02:25] <th0r> mooch337: might have one around. In areas like Arkansas or Missouri maybe not...the trees would be a problem. But in MS it isn't so hilly so you might have such service available
[02:26] <mooch337> I'll check and see
[02:26] <mooch337> well let me go thanks for your help thOr
[02:27] <th0r> good luck mooch337
[02:27] <mooch337> I am gonna need it
[02:27] <mooch337> take care
[02:54] <atom_fox> hi guys, just installed xubuntu 9.04 on my old pc yesterday... It's my 2nd linux distro... I would just like to know what is the best reference books I could use to play, experiment or explore xubuntu... or is there a site which I could visit? thanks...
[02:57] <th0r> atom_fox: there is a system administrators guide (sag), a network administrators guide (nag), an introduction to bash scripting, advanced bash scripting...amongst others. All are available in pdf form. Check the linux documentation project
[02:59] <atom_fox> thanks man...
[03:40] <maha> whats up booonties
[04:16] <pegon> Hey all was wondering how do I install an icon set from xfce-look.org?
[04:20] <Mooch> Hey I have installed my drivers for my dial up modem but having a problem with wvdialconf
[04:21] <Mooch> getting a error can anyone help me out
[04:23] <Mooch> anyone?
[04:27] <Mooch> is anyone familiar with dial up
[05:27] <chrisjomarmayor> I've installed xubuntu 9.04 on my old computer yesterday it's the first time that I used xubuntu, I did some changes regarding the desktop settings and now I'm having problems with the panels... After I've logged in today the panels does not appear and I can't access the pannel seetings, even from the settings manager... could someone give me a hand thanks
[05:27] <R1cochet> alt-f2
[05:27] <R1cochet> xfce4-panel
[05:27] <R1cochet> that should bring up the panels again
[05:29] <R1cochet> chrisjomarmayor: did u get my response?
[05:30] <chrisjomarmayor_> yup
[05:30] <chrisjomarmayor_> I'll try it
[05:30] <chrisjomarmayor_> it worked!!!
[05:31] <chrisjomarmayor_> but does this mean that I have to type this everytime I open xubuntu?
[05:32] <R1cochet> no
[05:32] <R1cochet> what ull need to do is...
[05:32] <R1cochet> u still here?
[05:34] <R1cochet> well when u go to log out tick the box that says "save settings". log out then log back in. the panels should be there. once you have them appearing on log in I would untick "save settings" from then on out
[11:01] <slow-motion> hu
[11:06] <TheSheep> eh?
[11:09] <kora-chan> heya im using jaunty x64 with network manager and network-manager-vpnc plugin. on connect i always get the error "no valid vpn secrets". any idea what went wrong?
[11:11] <Myrtti> kora-chan: restart networkmanager
[11:12] <Myrtti> kora-chan: sudo /etc/init.d/networkmanager restart
[11:12] <kora-chan> Myrtti: thanks ill try it
[11:13] <Myrtti> s/networkmanager/NetworkManager/
[11:18] <kora-chan> Myrtti: ok the second restart worked,.. wonder why it didnt work after the first reboot i made after installing it
[11:18] <kora-chan> Myrtti: thanks a lot
[11:21] <Myrtti> kora-chan: np
[11:23] <mellys> helo
[11:25] <mellys> need help for compiz on xubuntu
[11:25] <mellys> anyone online?
[11:25] <TheSheep> no
[11:25] <kora-chan> mellys: no one here *g*
[11:25] <TheSheep> !compiz | mellys
[11:26] <Paddy_EIRE> mellys: as I said compiz on that computer is most likely not going to work
[11:26] <mellys> just wana try
[11:27] <Paddy_EIRE> it already failed.. you tried
[11:27] <mellys> it failed on the nvidia driver
[11:27] <Paddy_EIRE> !nvidia
[11:42] <Paddy_EIRE> mellys: How did that go?
[11:44] <Paddy_EIRE> heh.. I bet mellys will be back in 5-10 asking the same question and getting the same answer
[11:44] <Paddy_EIRE> thats when there will be an outburst.. so predictable :-)
[12:03] <muttman> I dot see any panel. I have upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04
[12:04] <muttman> any extra settings needed?
[12:05] <TheSheep> alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel'
[12:05] <muttman> why by default it has not come
[12:06] <SiDi> !paste
[12:06] <SiDi> muttman: please paste your .xsession-errors file here
[12:06] <TheSheep> no idea, it probably crashed
[12:06] <muttman> ok
[12:07] <SiDi> and also, you might have to clear your session cache and xfce config if it happens again on next boot (for that, just "rm -r ~/.cache", and "mv .config/xfce4 .config/xfce4backup", from shell (ctrl+alt+f1 to go to shell mode))
[12:07] <SiDi> err.
[12:07] <SiDi> whatever then
[12:12] <jagadeesh> Sidi: http://pastebin.com/f3813195b
[12:15] <jagadeesh> Sidi: did it hint anything why panel is not appearing?
[12:17] <SiDi> wow
[12:17] <SiDi> go to shell with ctrl+alt+f1, and please type the following commands
[12:17] <SiDi> "rm -r ~/.cache", and "mv .config/xfce4 .config/xfce4backup"
[12:17] <SiDi> oh, before, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:17] <SiDi> and after you typed those two commands, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:17] <jagadeesh> ok
[12:17] <SiDi> with that you'll boot with a clear new xfce4 session
[12:33] <floating> is there still problems with intel graphics ?
[12:33] <floating> would i have problems with this jaunty with my mobile intel 915gm/gms 9100gml
[12:37] <floating> shold i install ubuntu 8 instead
[12:45] <liar_> floating: i am using jaunty and a older version of the driver, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[13:55] <Pres-Gas> Good mornin'
[14:17] <Mooch188> is ttyS1 a correct fonfiguration for a dial up modem?
[14:18] <TheSheep> depends on where you connected it
[14:18] <TheSheep> ttyS1 is com2
[14:19] <mikechelen> floating, try searching forums for those models, heard mixed issues
[14:19] <fwerneburg> hi there
[14:20] <fwerneburg> can anyone help me with an xorg issue on a thinkpad?
[14:21] <Mooch188> TheSheep is there a way to look up where my modem is set at?
[14:22] <TheSheep> Mooch188: yes, follow the cable that sticks out of it, and see to which socket on the computer it is connected, then read what's written next to that socket.
[14:23] <Mooch188> hmmm ok brb
[14:29] <Who> Hello. I have just installed Xubuntu and I am surprised that my volume keys don't do anything (Jaunty). in XEV the _do_ provide XF86AusioRaiseVolume or LowerVolume but nothing happens when I press them. Is this supposed to happen?
[14:29] <Who> Do other people have working volume keys OOTB?
[14:29] <Mooch188> TheSheep I couldn't see any kindof number the PCI slot the modem is located is the 5th slot
[14:30] <Mooch188> when I installed the drivers for the modem the terminal told me where it was located but how do I located with the terminal
[14:37] <Mooch188> How do you check in the terminal to see where your modem is set at
[14:42] <TheSheep> Mooch188: ah, so it's a pci modem
[14:42] <TheSheep> Mooch188: try lspci
[14:42] <Mooch188> ok
[14:43] <TheSheep> dmesg | tail   might also show you something relevant
[14:47] <Mooch188> 00:06 ?
[14:47] <Mooch188> 00:06 Pctel 56 Micromodem
[14:47] <Mooch188> let me try the other
[14:49] <Mooch188> ok got it!
[14:49] <Mooch188> ttsyS
[14:49] <Mooch188> is that the same as ttyS1
[14:53] <TheSheep> no
[14:54] <Mooch188> TheSheep its located in ttyS
[14:54] <TheSheep> it has the letetrs s and y switched and lacks a 1
[14:54] <Mooch188> the configuration screen is asking me to choose the port
[14:55] <Mooch188> my modem is at dev/ttyS
[14:56] <TheSheep> /dev/ttyS0 or 1 or 2 or 3 most likely
[14:56] <TheSheep> there is no ttyS
[14:57] <Mooch188> hmmm when I ran the command you gave me it located the modem at ttyS
[14:59] <Mooch188> TheSheep ok ttyS_PCTEL0
[15:00] <Mooch188> is that ttyS0?
[15:01] <TheSheep> no
[15:01] <TheSheep> but it might exist
[15:01] <TheSheep> try it
[15:03] <Mooch188> ok
[15:24] <abra> wtf? http://itmages.ru/view.php?action=view&id=4943&key=adf1de
[15:47] <Mooch188> TheSheep question for you I have installed my modem drivers one problem I have is trying to edit my dial up info when I enter my info with gedit I get an I?O error and the error is failed to write to State file
[15:52] <Mooch188> How do i replace the gedit file and have it saved without getting a error?
[15:54] <genii> Mooch188: What command are you using which is giving you this? Something like:  gksu gedit /etc/ppp/peers/provider        or something?
[15:56] <Mooch188> sudo gedit /etc/wvdial.conf
[15:57] <Mooch188> I type this commmand out and save my settings then the terminal pops up with a error
[15:58] <Mooch188> I wonder if when I installed my drivers I didn't change my directory back to the driver instead of src would it have made a difference
[15:59] <Mooch188> when I was installing my drivers I was suppose to type cd ../
[15:59] <genii> "I/O error" of any kind usually hints toward hardware fail. But also, you should not use "sudo" with graphical applications. With gtk apps like gedit, use gksu.
[16:00] <Mooch188> hmmmm so should I replace sudo with gksu?
[16:01] <Mooch188> you think the drivers were not installed correctly?
[16:03] <Mooch188> thats my hunch
[16:08] <pIsIq> how can i activate the remote desktop ?
[16:13] <genii> Mooch188: When is the last time you scanned your drive for errors?
[16:15] <Mooch188> I haven't in a little while I just did the install of 8.10
[16:17] <Mooch188> What I don't understand is how before I saved the gedit with no errors and now a error pops up
[16:17] <pIsIq> how can i activate the remote desktop ? i cant find the remote desktop set up just the viewer
[16:17] <genii> Mooch188: As I think I've already said. I/O error almost always means hardware failure of some kind.
[16:18] <Mooch188> as you know 8.10 does not have the Network box like the previous versions did
[16:18] <genii> bad disk sectors, etc etc
[16:18] <Mooch188> hmmmm
[16:19] <Mooch188> I may try the drivers again sometimes my computer pops up with bad sectors and then corrects them but I may be wrong
[16:20] <Mooch188> I didn't have a problem with 8.10 install like I did before with the other drive I had
[16:20] <Mooch188> the other drive I installed dapper drake and after a while the drive pretty much died
[16:21] <Mooch188> couldn't run certain programs and just a lot of lock ups
[16:23] <Mooch188> I am gonna try the drivers one more time just to make sure because I think by me not changing my directory back from src to the modem driver dir might have caused a problem
[16:24] <Mooch188> According to my instructions that were posted for the older driver I had before I was suppose to drop down to the modem directory
[16:25] <Mooch188> genii: brb let try this again
[16:43] <Mooch188> genii: my usb card is conflicting
[16:46] <Mooch188> I bought a Startech USB card and I thought maybe linux might create a driver but its conflicting and I have a bad feeling its not compatibile
[16:47] <Mooch188> I probably need to see if can find some drivers for it?
[16:58] <Who> Do you guys have working Volume keys OOTB?
[17:03] <ruadh> Hi
[17:03] <ruadh> How do I open a .bin file?
[17:10] <premorphos> Q: is there any easy and user friendly program to brake encryptation and gain acsses to a wifi router.  i have a legimit reason im much willing to tell.
[17:13] <Who> ruadh: .bin could mean a number of things. Where is the file from, what is it?
[17:20] <premorphos> well i realise this is quite a hot potato..
[17:26] <Mooch188> I thought USB PCI cards were all compatible with linux
[17:27] <Mooch188> My modem won't run because of my USB card go figure
[17:28] <_Pete_> premorphos: what do you mean exactly? don't you get access to wifirouter by logging in to it via www-browser?
[17:28] <_Pete_> in case you know login/passwd
[17:29] <Mooch188> genii: you were right as sooon as I rebooted up came on a resource conflicting and its the usb card
[17:29] <Mooch188> my modem is in pci slot # 1
[17:30] <Mooch188> I need to remember to read and make sure whatever I buy is compatible with Linux sucks being a newbie
[17:31] <premorphos> i do? how?.. what i rely need is to go online.
[17:32] <_Pete_> by using someones wifi without permission?
[17:33] <premorphos> NO its my dads, but he had some one set it up, and my dad has never used a computer.
[17:35] <premorphos> so he tells me i can use the brodeband as much as i like. but there is a problem, how since its encrypted
[17:36] <_Pete_> and why exactly that's a problem?
[17:38] <premorphos> how can i get online if i dont have the key?
[17:39] <_Pete_> and your dad doesn't tell you that?
[17:39] <MalfermitaKodo> Hi Xubuntuistoj!
[17:40] <premorphos> btw tnx for taking your time. he ses there is no password. so i gess no
[17:40] <_Pete_> anyway login to the router and configure the password
[17:41] <MalfermitaKodo> Can anyone here explain/link me to an explanation on how I can install PCF or BDF fonts? the tutorials I found were really deprecated
[17:41] <premorphos> ok sweet...how?
[17:41] <premorphos> by cable?
[17:41] <_Pete_> read the routers manual
[17:41] <_Pete_> or do some smart googling
[17:42] <premorphos> absolutly.. its in turkish,, since im visiting from sweden.
[17:43] <MalfermitaKodo> an IP is an IP even in Turkish
[17:43] <premorphos> pete: il google.. i realyse im sounding a bit daft by now..
[17:43] <premorphos> ha ha i supose
[17:45] <premorphos> tanx m8.. il do my homework better next time
[17:46] <_Pete_> :)
[17:48] <TeXnicer> pre.. depending on the router its default... like if its a Fritz! Box you can usually access by cable ant URL: fritz.box
[17:50] <premorphos> il give you funny story to tell: i have installed all kinds of hackish tools and encryptation brakers, only to realise its a bit over my head having a hard time opening the terminal
[17:51] <premorphos> Tex: tnx you saved me a headache
[17:53] <jkl> hi, since I removed close to 300 orphaned packages with synaptic, abiword hangs at startup. problem persists even after complete reinstallation, any ideas?
[17:59] <MalfermitaKodo> jkl: any rubbish in your .abiword directory?
[18:00] <MalfermitaKodo> errr .AbiSuite
[18:00] <MalfermitaKodo> maybe rename it
[18:01] <jkl> nothing unusual in there
[18:02] <jkl> rename the directory?
[18:02] <MalfermitaKodo> If only you and no other user on your box has issues, that might be it
[18:03] <MalfermitaKodo> can't hurt to try it
[18:04] <jkl> hard to tell coz im the only user, but i'll give it a go
[18:05] <jkl> nope, no joy with that approach, im afraid
[18:05] <MalfermitaKodo> sorry!
[18:05] <jkl> no worries!
[18:05] <jkl> thanks
[18:06] <yeason> I have a buffalo G54HP card that uses the b43 module... I've modprobed this but I still get an error: "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory" when I try to bring it up. I can't seem to figure out what hte issue is, any suggestions?
[18:18] <juxbox> hi
[18:19] <juxbox> does xubuntu support ATI display cards?
[18:23] <yeason> xorg does
[18:23] <yeason> and xubuntu uses xorg as the display system
[18:26] <juxbox> yeason: i used kubuntu 3 days ago and it didn't support my ATI and x crashed, so is there an official statement that says that it really does ?
[18:31] <yeason> juxbox: hmm... I can't say whether or not there's anything official... but I took a quick look at the repos to double check and xorg ATI support is in there
[18:32] <juxbox> hmm ok
[18:33] <yeason> since its in the repos I'd imagine it is, have you tried searching forums etc for the error you encountered
[18:33] <yeason> its possible its a known bug with a workaround
[18:33] <juxbox> yeason: yes it was a bug, also it couldn't recognize my sound cards
[18:36] <gamepockets> hello hello
[18:36] <yeason> juxbox: what type of computer is this?
[18:37] <juxbox> yeason: hp pavilion dv6 1105ee
[18:37] <gamepockets> does anyone know how to find out what your ip address is..
[18:37] <juxbox> gamepockets: lan ip or wan ip?
[18:38] <gamepockets> lan
[18:38] <juxbox> ifconfig
[18:38] <gamepockets> f config ok, thanks
[18:41] <yeason> juxbox: I'm not sure what to tell you, people in here might be able to give you better advice if you tried again and actually gave them the errors
[18:42] <yeason> I'm sorry there's not much I can do, a quick google search didn't really reveal much
[18:42] <juxbox> ya
[20:04] <slow-motion> hi
[20:11] <Wunderbar> okay, I need help with configure make make install stuff guys
[21:08] <Wunderbar> how to run thunar as root plz
[21:08] <Wunderbar> :)
[21:08] <Wunderbar>  /j #ubuntu
[21:40] <artistxe> curious what ppl use here to organize their music . right now I am using Exaile , but I am not really happy with it.
[21:41] <Myrtti> exaile or mpd
[21:44] <artistxe> my collection needs to be retagged maybe. ugh.
[21:55] <Nana> hi
[21:55] <Who> Anyone know much about how Xubuntu handles brightness keys?
[21:56] <Who> I'm getting really laggy response using notify-osd
[21:56] <Who> but if I use acpi_fakekey 224 it works nice and speedily
[21:59] <knome> Who, is there a reason not to use acpi_fakekey then?
[22:00] <Who> knome: well 2: 1. it requires root privelidges, 2) I don't know how to turn off what is already handling the keys
[22:00] <Who> knome: I'd be happy if you have any suggestions
[22:01] <knome> not really. haven't had to fight with any non/bad-wroking keys
[22:02] <joey_> can anybody tell me how to make the xfce panel transparent in 4.6?
[22:08] <joey_> let me rephrase that. anyone know how to make the panel transparent in xfce, but the icons opaque? I havv compiz, if that helps
[22:13] <Who> knome: the keys do work ;) just not _right_
[22:18] <joey_> anybody?
[22:24] <artistxe> joey_  . I do not think that you can do that
[22:29] <knome> joey_, you should ask #compiz maybe
[22:29] <artistxe> joey. if you use the new version of gnome-do with the docky option. you can have the dock always on top....turn off animations, and shrink the icons. it will look exactly the same
[22:29] <artistxe> I tried to do it with compiz as well. and asked around. the answer I got the most was "use awm"
[22:29] <joey_> I'm not thinking about the dock for applicatons, I've got cairo dock for that. I'm thinking more the dock at hthe top, with the menu and the system tray
[22:30] <artistxe> *awn
[22:30] <artistxe> and. what do you need in the sytem tray anyway ???
[22:31] <joey_> probably not much. thanks!
[22:31] <artistxe> problem solved ?
[22:34] <jkl> hi, since I removed close to 300 orphaned packages with synaptic, abiword hangs at startup. problem persists even after complete reinstallation, any ideas?
[22:39] <gamepockets> need some help setting up a network between a win lap and xub mac...
[22:48] <artistxe> jkl . when you say complete reinstall. you manually removed the config files ( .AbiSuite in your home directory ) ?  "complete" removal in Synaptic does not remove that btw...
[22:50] <jkl> ok well i was advised to do a complete synaptic removal and then restart the system before reinstalling, this didnt work.
[22:50] <jkl> i did not manually remove the files
[22:51] <artistxe> common mistake . alot of ppl do not remove these files , reinstall , and encounter same problems.
[22:51] <artistxe> and you should not have to restart system btw.
[22:51] <jkl> hmm, thanks for the tip, I will try this
[22:51] <artistxe> n/p
[23:03] <jimisrvrox> hey guys I am needing some help with getting this wireless card wmp54g card working if anybody can let me know thanks..
[23:06] <Slonkie> jimisrvrox wmp54g? what brand is that?
[23:06] <jimisrvrox> heh its a linksys
[23:06] <Slonkie> sorry no idea then
[23:06] <jimisrvrox> I forget how to look up the driver model..
[23:06] <jimisrvrox> could be either broadcom or ralink
[23:07] <frojnd> Hello there
[23:07] <frojnd> Some distributions have special methods for installing the firmware. In general these consist of a special command entered at a terminal.
[23:07] <frojnd> Ubuntu uses the following command: sudo /usr/share/b43-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[23:07] <frojnd> What would be the command for xubuntu then?
[23:08] <Slonkie> i'd say the same.
[23:08] <frojnd> Slonkie: hum I've tried but I get command not found
[23:08] <Slonkie> hm okay
[23:08] <frojnd> it's not even there b43-fwcutter
[23:08] <frojnd> in the /usr/share/
[23:09] <frojnd> I tired which b43-fwcutter but It didn't give me any path
[23:27] <iliketofrolic666> are there any programs for xubuntu to control it with a microphone like vista has?
[23:48] <SiDi> frojnd, install b43-fcutter first
[23:48] <SiDi> fwcutter
[23:48] <SiDi> frojnd, sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[23:48] <SiDi> then the file will be there
[23:56] <jimisrvrox> siDi: you around?
[23:56] <SiDi> no
[23:56] <SiDi> :)
[23:56] <jimisrvrox> heh
[23:57] <SiDi> sry but i dont know anything about linksys cards either :p
[23:57] <jimisrvrox> im tryin to get this broadcom 4813 to work and thus far ive got this bcmwl5.inf installed...
[23:57] <jimisrvrox> says I have fwcutter already installed but im unable to access it to extract the .sys file..
[23:58] <SiDi> i think you should be using ndiswrapper
[23:58] <jimisrvrox> well I went that route as well and did ndiswrapper -l shows the driver is installed..then I did -m says theres a module there so..im hoping everything will work..
[23:59] <jimisrvrox> nope didnt work..