| jordi1983 | I have an idea, and I want to know do you all think, wouldn't it be cool to have a PPA containing daily builds for the last ati r6xx/r7xx 3D support in order to be tested on ubuntu, and this way helping to speed up their stabilization and development? | 00:27 |
|---|---|---|
| BUGabundo | jordi1983: doesn't the ppa for x-testers already provide trunk drivers? | 00:28 |
| rski | yeah but they are pretty outdated afaik | 00:29 |
| BUGabundo | how can trunk be outdated? | 00:29 |
| jordi1983 | Which is the url? I think I've checked that PPA today | 00:29 |
| jordi1983 | I've read on the Phoronix forums that the only way to check out this code is through the git repositorya | 00:30 |
| BUGabundo | please wait | 00:33 |
| jordi1983 | if by x testers you mean xorg crack pushers there isn't the r6xx 3d support branch, is the master branch | 00:33 |
| BUGabundo | https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/ | 00:33 |
| BUGabundo | https://edge.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa | 00:34 |
| BUGabundo | thread https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-April/028181.html | 00:35 |
| BUGabundo | jordi1983: ^^^^^^^^^ | 00:35 |
| jordi1983 | these packages doesn't provide 3d for r6xx/7xx, they provide EXA and xvideo | 00:37 |
| jordi1983 | there is a branch now called r6xx-r7xx-3d at the xorg git that provides DRI support for that video cards | 00:40 |
| jordi1983 | look: http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonhd%3Aexperimental_3D | 00:40 |
| BUGabundo | you have to talk to the #ubuntu-x guys | 00:41 |
| BUGabundo | I don't do video | 00:41 |
| jordi1983 | ok | 00:41 |
| jordi1983 | thanks | 00:41 |
| BUGabundo | maybe cwillu wants to help you out | 00:41 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu: ping | 00:41 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu: my friend are you up ?? or traveling around the country ? | 00:41 |
| * cwillu hides | 00:44 | |
| BUGabundo | cwillu: hayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy | 00:44 |
| BUGabundo | poki pokes | 00:44 |
| BUGabundo | miss you dude | 00:44 |
| BUGabundo | what's new? | 00:44 |
| cwillu | jordi1983, dunno, the first line of that link seems pretty direct and to the point :p | 00:44 |
| * cwillu pokes BUGabundo with a stick | 00:44 | |
| * BUGabundo feels so much better | 00:45 | |
| jordi1983 | there it explains how to build and install the files but I'd like somebody to do the packaging in a PPA I don't know how to do it, I think there is a lot of dependencies and things you need to know to package a video driver in the right way | 00:48 |
| jordi1983 | you know DRM, DRI and so on... | 00:49 |
| cwillu | sorry, back and forth between channels :p | 00:49 |
| jordi1983 | yep, sorry | 00:50 |
| jordi1983 | maybe it would be better to discuss this on #ubuntu-x | 00:50 |
| cwillu | more likely to get useful answers there :p | 00:51 |
| jordi1983 | ok | 00:51 |
| mikeh789 | BUGabundo, if a driver is blacklisted, will the device still show up in lspci?? | 01:19 |
| BUGabundo | should | 01:19 |
| BUGabundo | don't know | 01:19 |
| BUGabundo | no it won't | 01:19 |
| BUGabundo | :)) | 01:19 |
| mikeh789 | yeah, i thought it was a good question | 01:19 |
| BUGabundo | mikeh789: I'm not sure | 01:19 |
| BUGabundo | I guess it depends on HW | 01:20 |
| BUGabundo | and how kernel supports it | 01:20 |
| owner | hey bug | 01:29 |
| BUGabundo | hey ow | 01:31 |
| owner | mikeah789 was helping with myh wireless problem | 01:32 |
| owner | refered me to you | 01:32 |
| owner | my wireless is not showing up in my devicexs | 01:32 |
| owner | it works when i boot to windows, but it stoped working this morning for some reason, it worked after the install | 01:32 |
| BUGabundo | owner: on karmic? | 01:33 |
| owner | ubuntu | 01:33 |
| owner | 9.04 | 01:34 |
| BUGabundo | owner: support for stable versions is on #ubuntu | 01:37 |
| BUGabundo | this channel is for karmic 9.10 support and discussion | 01:37 |
| mikeh789 | I thought you were using 9.10?? | 01:38 |
| BUGabundo | I am | 01:40 |
| BUGabundo | mikeh789: ^^ | 01:41 |
| owner | uhh ok | 01:43 |
| owner | so i shouldnt be here then? | 01:46 |
| BUGabundo | owner: you are free to be here | 01:47 |
| BUGabundo | just that this is not the place to discuss that | 01:47 |
| owner | wana pm me? | 01:48 |
| BUGabundo | not really | 01:48 |
| BUGabundo | its 2am here | 01:49 |
| BUGabundo | can't keep my eyes open for long | 01:49 |
| owner | kk | 01:49 |
| BUGabundo | ;) | 01:49 |
| BUGabundo | plus I can't provide all that good support | 01:49 |
| BUGabundo | I bet #ubuntu and www.ubuntuforuns.com will help you more | 01:49 |
| mikeh789 | BUGabundo, thanks for your help, misunderstood owner and sent him over | 01:51 |
| BUGabundo | mikeh789: no prob, really | 01:51 |
| BUGabundo | keep doing a great job | 01:51 |
| poseidon | hey guys, just installed alpha 1. It's the first version to work (well) with my wireless driver. :) | 02:59 |
| poseidon | When I installed gnome did not fit the size of my main monitor (I have two plugged in). After I installed the nvidia proprietary driver and rebooted monitors began to work fine. | 02:59 |
| poseidon | I'm impressed with the hardware support | 03:00 |
| yoasif | hey all -- anyone want to help me with a broken package? | 03:10 |
| poseidon | Is gnash worth giving another shot, or should I just go with non free? | 03:42 |
| === ripps_ is now known as ripps | ||
| FLjohn | Good afternoon | 05:22 |
| telexicon | so, the wav files used by pidgin are corrupted or something | 05:35 |
| RichardWolfVI | Greetings, I updated the Intel driver and it seems to switch to low graphics mode; compiz doesn't work, and my monitor falls back to 1024x768, from its nativa 1440x900 | 05:44 |
| crdlb | RichardWolfVI: anything interesting in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old ? In particular, is it using the intel driver and failing visibly? | 05:49 |
| DanaG | is UDS on now? I haven't been keeping up[ with things. | 05:57 |
| thiebaude | !uds | 05:57 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu Developer Summit is being held May 25th-29th in Barcelona, Spain. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS for more information. | 05:57 |
| thiebaude | hi DanaG | 05:58 |
| DanaG | ah. | 06:00 |
| RichardWolfVI | crdlb: Pardon the HUGE dalay, is it normal that in the logs you get repetitive printing of VESA and monitor modes? | 06:31 |
| RichardWolfVI | crdlb: I downgraded to the 2.4 driver, it seems the latest update to 2.7 seems to fallback to VESA. | 06:37 |
| RichardWolfVI | crdlb: It's falling back to VESA | 06:43 |
| crdlb | RichardWolfVI: well, I was hoping to catch the actual error | 06:44 |
| RichardWolfVI | (WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size | 06:44 |
| crdlb | which I why I said to look in .old, but that doesn't always work | 06:44 |
| RichardWolfVI | crdlb: What do you recommend? | 06:46 |
| RichardWolfVI | Should I report the issue? | 06:46 |
| RichardWolfVI | OK, the bug was confirmed already. | 06:53 |
| === ^root^ is now known as error404notfound | ||
| === Solidus_ is now known as Barridus | ||
| Hew | Hooray, upgrading to Karmic alpha 1 worked! | 08:30 |
| tgpraveen | Hew: do you notice anything different from jaunty | 08:38 |
| tgpraveen | ? | 08:38 |
| tgpraveen | any changes except newer version of packages in karmic right now? | 08:38 |
| Hew | tgpraveen: Nothing immediately apparent other than karmic in my sources.list :P | 08:39 |
| Hew | tgpraveen: but I've only been using it for 10 min, I'm still working my way through synaptic | 08:39 |
| tgpraveen | k.anybody else any changes? | 08:39 |
| Hew | tgpraveen: What changes are you looking for? Visual changes aren't likely to be around for a while. New package versions are the main thing. | 08:40 |
| tgpraveen | any changes implemented in notify-osd | 08:40 |
| tgpraveen | did the support for media keys in notifyosd get implemented | 08:41 |
| Hew | tgpraveen: UDS hasn't even happened yet, it's very early days in terms of new features and release goals | 08:41 |
| tgpraveen | hmmm..yeah I guess so | 08:41 |
| Hew | at this stage it's Debian syncs to get excited about :) | 08:41 |
| tgpraveen | but I think I saw a screenshot somewhere with that so was asking | 08:42 |
| Hew | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd | 08:42 |
| tgpraveen | you knw by the time uds takes place and completes its nearly time for alpha 2 release and I think feature freeze is at alpha 5 or 6 something | 08:42 |
| Hew | no change between Jaunty and Karmic | 08:43 |
| tgpraveen | so new features really have less time | 08:43 |
| Hew | my experience is the Ubuntu/Canonical developed features seem to appear a few days before FeatureFreeze | 08:44 |
| Hew | but for new major releases of software, yes that just follows the release schedule | 08:44 |
| Hew | there's nothing stopping developers from introducing new features now | 08:45 |
| Hew | new package versions = new features | 08:45 |
| RichardWolfVI | Hmm, a small blunder on bug 379504, just messed up all i915 based chipsed. | 08:48 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/379504/+text) | 08:48 |
| tgpraveen | 332562 | 08:50 |
| lazermouse | hi | 09:37 |
| lazermouse | where can I suggest features for Karmic? | 09:37 |
| lazermouse | anyone? | 10:19 |
| bazhang | !brainstorm | 10:19 |
| ubottu | Post your ideas for ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like! | 10:20 |
| lazermouse | thanks bazhang | 10:20 |
| bazhang | probably a tad bit too late for Karmic though | 10:20 |
| lazermouse | ah, i bet you that Brainstorm is built on drupal | 10:20 |
| speedhawk | hello guys | 13:01 |
| speedhawk | i have a big problem since 8.10 | 13:01 |
| kklimonda | for support try #ubuntu channel | 13:01 |
| speedhawk | when i try to restart or shutdown the notebook. the screen is over white backslahs and freeze | 13:01 |
| kklimonda | (unless you are using 9.10 now) | 13:01 |
| speedhawk | i use 9.10 | 13:01 |
| kklimonda | speedhawk: But if this problem happen on 8.10 and 9.04 than there is little chance that we can help you any more | 13:02 |
| kklimonda | speedhawk: have you reported bug? | 13:02 |
| speedhawk | kklimonda: no | 13:02 |
| speedhawk | but i post a thread to ubuntuusers.de and asked in ubuntu-de but no one have a idea. | 13:03 |
| kklimonda | speedhawk: Reporting the bug on LP would make it easier for developers to notice it. | 13:04 |
| speedhawk | ok | 13:04 |
| speedhawk | first i install the new updates 'cos there are some X updates. and when the problem stands. i ask in #ubuntu and report a bug | 13:05 |
| speedhawk | is there any chance to see the output from the shutdown? | 13:11 |
| speedhawk | because i think the bootsplash is my problem | 13:12 |
| === vishalrao_away is now known as vishalrao | ||
| BluesKaj | G'Day all | 14:03 |
| rski | hello some | 14:07 |
| Mois | i must say. the alpha runs stable. anyone else who think so? | 14:07 |
| BluesKaj | so far so good , Mois | 14:10 |
| Mois | but the temperature is very high. i move 2000data ( 30GB ) and my Cpu is 80° | 14:11 |
| BluesKaj | laptop ? | 14:12 |
| Mois | yes | 14:12 |
| BluesKaj | Mois, maybe choose a lower graphics/power performance setting | 14:13 |
| Mois | ok. | 14:13 |
| Mois | irqbalance right? | 14:14 |
| BluesKaj | try the balance yes | 14:14 |
| ricochet | hey guys i need some serious help.. i have an SD card in my Dell mini that has a bunch of my videos from a trip i am currently on in South East Asia.. well today i opened up my SD card and all of the files have a bunch of ASCII symbols and locks on the icons.. i cant do anything with it either | 14:17 |
| rski | if you can't do anything with it i guess you can sell it to someone | 14:21 |
| rski | so it's not enterily useless | 14:21 |
| ricochet | hahaha how helpful | 14:23 |
| geirha | When will translations for karmic be available for editing in rosetta? | 14:23 |
| BUGabundo1 | genii: no idea! | 14:24 |
| rski | ricochet: you aren't being any helpfull either | 14:24 |
| rski | "can't do anything with it" | 14:24 |
| BUGabundo1 | hey rski | 14:24 |
| rski | is useless info | 14:24 |
| rski | be more specific | 14:24 |
| rski | hey buga | 14:24 |
| rski | god riddance | 14:27 |
| BUGabundo1 | rski: I know not every user is helpful | 14:28 |
| BUGabundo1 | but try to help them any way... | 14:28 |
| BUGabundo1 | CoC ok? | 14:28 |
| rski | BUGabundo1: why is he using karmic on a vacation? | 14:29 |
| rski | i doubt he even was | 14:29 |
| BUGabundo1 | eheh | 14:29 |
| BUGabundo1 | yeah | 14:29 |
| === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo | ||
| rski | i _TRIED_ to help him | 14:29 |
| rski | but he made it difficult | 14:29 |
| BUGabundo | I don't know | 14:29 |
| BUGabundo | I didn't catch up | 14:29 |
| BUGabundo | I just saw | 14:29 |
| BUGabundo | (02:27:51 PM) rski: god riddance | 14:30 |
| BUGabundo | I got me a bit shocked... nothing too much | 14:30 |
| BUGabundo | I had it happening to me too | 14:30 |
| BUGabundo | hey BluesKaj | 14:30 |
| BluesKaj | mouse & KB froze for the 1st time | 14:30 |
| BluesKaj | hi BUGabundo | 14:30 |
| BluesKaj | even the ctrl+alt+Esc didn't work | 14:31 |
| BluesKaj | of course | 14:31 |
| BUGabundo | what is it supposed to do? | 14:31 |
| rski | close X | 14:32 |
| BluesKaj | it opens a small kill icon | 14:32 |
| BluesKaj | looks like askull | 14:32 |
| BluesKaj | of course it wouldn't worlk cuz X froze | 14:33 |
| BUGabundo | doest? | 14:34 |
| BUGabundo | not here! | 14:34 |
| BluesKaj | I used the recovery version when booting back into karmic | 14:34 |
| BUGabundo | when I get a freeze I always check my disks | 14:35 |
| BUGabundo | just in case... | 14:35 |
| BluesKaj | heh , just tried ctrl+alt+Esc , clicked on the desktop now it's black | 14:35 |
| BUGabundo | damn | 14:35 |
| BUGabundo | I can't do it | 14:35 |
| BUGabundo | let me try it on another app | 14:36 |
| BUGabundo | nothing | 14:36 |
| BluesKaj | hmm , kde or gnome? | 14:36 |
| BUGabundo | gnome | 14:37 |
| * BUGabundo thinks we all should have a tag on our head like "I are Babuine", telling all our specs! | 14:38 | |
| BluesKaj | BRB | 14:38 |
| BluesKaj | not fooling with that cmnd again unless absolutely necessary | 14:45 |
| * BluesKaj checks out 'cranky geeks' latest episode | 14:47 | |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: does this make any sense to you http://hellotxt.com/l/U6cxVo | 15:24 |
| BUGabundo | ? | 15:24 |
| BUGabundo | trying to connect my GPS and kernel just fails to mount it | 15:24 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: heh, microbloggin isn't the way of pasting debug logs ;) | 15:25 |
| kklimonda | no, it doesn't | 15:25 |
| BUGabundo | damn | 15:25 |
| kklimonda | ok, bbl | 15:25 |
| BUGabundo | not sure if it is because of | 15:25 |
| BUGabundo | MSFT wince or kernel bug | 15:25 |
| BUGabundo | anybody else? | 15:27 |
| BUGabundo | BluesKaj: ? | 15:27 |
| BluesKaj | BUGabundo, no idea... I have a gps system but haven't tried it on any OS yet ...it's just gathering dust :) | 15:31 |
| BUGabundo | BluesKaj: but no idea from the error log? | 15:33 |
| BluesKaj | driver probs , maybe ? | 15:34 |
| BUGabundo | USB driver? | 15:34 |
| BluesKaj | dunno , could be | 15:35 |
| BluesKaj | NDRIVE GPS usb driver for linux | 15:36 |
| mdlueck | I just installed my first Ubuntu 9.04 server edition. What is suppose to replace dselect? | 17:00 |
| BUGabundo | mdlueck: support for stable versions is on #ubuntu or you could try #ubuntu-server | 17:01 |
| BUGabundo | #ubuntu+1 is for karmic 9.10 support and discussion | 17:01 |
| mdlueck | I just realized that my bookmark was to the incorrect group. Thanks for the pointer | 17:01 |
| BUGabundo | no prob mdlueck | 17:07 |
| BUGabundo | didn't you find the # to quiet to be #ubuntu ? | 17:07 |
| BUGabundo | :)) | 17:07 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| Mois | hello | 17:33 |
| Mois | i have an soundproblem. i've installed 9.10 today and the welcome sound is okay. but rhythmbox dont'. what should i do? alsamixer is everything of full. | 17:34 |
| Mois | and nothing is mute | 17:34 |
| BUGabundo | Mois: any sound at all? | 17:41 |
| BUGabundo | or is it just RB not working? | 17:41 |
| Mois | RB | 17:41 |
| BUGabundo | it could be broken on karmic | 17:43 |
| Mois | yes | 17:44 |
| Mois | might | 17:45 |
| Mois | what should i do? | 17:47 |
| Twigathy | Someone just linked me to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DeviceKit -- the GUI for disks and SMART there is really nice. When can we see this in ubuntu? :O | 17:48 |
| BUGabundo | Mois: you could file a bug. but it may take a week (until UDS ends) for it to get any real attention | 17:49 |
| rski | Twigathy: devicekit is already in so i guess soon maybe? | 17:49 |
| BUGabundo | Mois: run on a cli: $ ubuntu-bug rhythmbox | 17:49 |
| Twigathy | rski: oooo, shiny =) | 17:49 |
| BUGabundo | and describe your problem | 17:49 |
| Mois | yes | 17:50 |
| Mois | BUGabundo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/379779 voilla | 17:56 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 379779 in rhythmbox "No sound in Rhythmbox" [Undecided,New] | 17:56 |
| BUGabundo | ok Mois. great work | 17:56 |
| Mois | thanks. | 17:56 |
| BUGabundo | one more thing | 17:57 |
| Mois | yes | 17:57 |
| BUGabundo | Mois: add also audio info | 17:57 |
| Mois | which? | 17:57 |
| BUGabundo | $ ubuntu-bug -p alsa-base 379779 | 17:57 |
| BUGabundo | "just in case" | 17:58 |
| Mois | ok | 17:58 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 17:58 |
| BUGabundo | Mois: your system is not UPTODATE | 17:58 |
| BUGabundo | RM is v 0.12.0-0ubuntu4 | 17:58 |
| BUGabundo | and you have 0.12.1-0ubuntu1 | 17:59 |
| BUGabundo | please open Update-manager and update | 17:59 |
| Mois | my system is UPTODATE! | 17:59 |
| Mois | only findutils is not uptopdate | 18:00 |
| BUGabundo | Mois: I'm sorry but it seems not to be | 18:01 |
| BUGabundo | you have an old version of RB | 18:01 |
| Mois | hm. | 18:01 |
| Mois | i take a look | 18:01 |
| Mois | no my system is 100% uptopdate | 18:02 |
| BUGabundo | Mois: pastebin : $ apt-cache policy rhythmbox | 18:02 |
| Mois | http://pastebin.com/m3387072f | 18:03 |
| BUGabundo | your mirror seems to be lagging behing | 18:04 |
| BUGabundo | *behind | 18:04 |
| Mois | german mirrors | 18:04 |
| BUGabundo | can you please temporarily change to another or, or even MAIN ? | 18:04 |
| Mois | ja | 18:16 |
| BUGabundo | Mois: fixed? | 18:17 |
| Mois | no | 18:17 |
| RichardWolfVI | hey | 19:21 |
| BUGabundo | RichardWolfVI: hi | 19:21 |
| RichardWolfVI | seems they removed a patch that caused the VESA fallback | 19:22 |
| kevix | sorry to bother folks, but I have an upgrade issue that is not something that the usual #ubuntu folks will catch. I upgraded to Intrepid. shortly after I rebooted, 'overflow' was created for /tmp. the root fs is not full but some FS error? is reporting it as 100%. I have had this specific error when I upgrade to a new stable release before. | 19:33 |
| kevix | rm'ing files on the root fs does not create space. | 19:35 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 19:35 |
| BUGabundo | aren't there a few virtual mount points ? | 19:35 |
| BUGabundo | maybe those are the ones you are seeing ? | 19:35 |
| kevix | when the system boots up it see that the root fs is reporting 100% and uses a routine in /etc/init.d/ to create an 'emergency' /tmp | 19:36 |
| kevix | so its not the regular file systems | 19:37 |
| kevix | or the expected ones for the kernel | 19:37 |
| albert23 | kevix: Is your disk more then 95% full? The last 5% is reserved for root. | 19:38 |
| kevix | the issue is that if I remove files from / (root) it does not fix the issue as I had more than 700mb free before this error started | 19:39 |
| albert23 | how large is the total fs? | 19:41 |
| kevix | albert23: I think it was 20gb unformatted. but the size of the FS or the actual space left are not the issue. | 19:42 |
| albert23 | kevix: 5% of 20GB is 1 GB reserved for user root. You will see space coming available if more then 1GB is free | 19:43 |
| geser | inodes are also still available? | 19:43 |
| kevix | geser: I checked the inodes. many thousands left | 19:43 |
| kevix | albert23: my system was working fine (with 600mb free) a few reboots ago. so the issue happened after 'something' upgrade | 19:45 |
| kevix | i tried using an older kernel, I tried modifing the fstype from ext3 to ext2 and back to ext3. no change. | 19:49 |
| === blueyed_ is now known as blueyed | ||
| kn100 | hi, i just upgraded to 9.10, and i have to say, it feels a little faster, but other than that, whats the plan with hoary? | 20:35 |
| Tekno | hoary ???? | 20:36 |
| rski | hoary? | 20:36 |
| Tekno | hoary was released on April 8, 2005. | 20:36 |
| kn100 | lol my mistake | 20:36 |
| kn100 | karmic | 20:37 |
| kn100 | gimme a break lol, very tired | 20:37 |
| rski | new shades of brown | 20:37 |
| rski | newer kernel X drivers packagess, the usual stuff | 20:37 |
| kn100 | rski oh noez more brown? | 20:37 |
| * BUGabundo hears an echo | 20:37 | |
| BUGabundo | horay ? | 20:38 |
| RichardWolfVI | HAHA | 20:38 |
| kn100 | the first thing i do when i reinstall ubuntu is get rid of the brown | 20:38 |
| BUGabundo | it was supposed to get a new theme | 20:38 |
| BUGabundo | but according to Mark the desing team is still incomplete | 20:38 |
| RichardWolfVI | Yeah, my theme is Black/light grey | 20:38 |
| kn100 | i just use dusk | 20:38 |
| BUGabundo | so only 10.04 will have new theme | 20:38 |
| kn100 | what? 12 months for a new theme? | 20:39 |
| RichardWolfVI | one important thing is the opsible replacement of Usplash | 20:39 |
| kn100 | yeah | 20:39 |
| BUGabundo | here is mine http://fileland.bugabundo.net/fotos/Linux/Desktop | 20:39 |
| kn100 | changing the way it chainboots as well isnt it? | 20:39 |
| RichardWolfVI | They might be switching to Plymouth | 20:39 |
| kn100 | thats the one | 20:40 |
| kn100 | how is that better than the current one? is it speed | 20:40 |
| rski | also they uploaded devicekit | 20:40 |
| RichardWolfVI | Well, it uses actual graphic acceleration | 20:41 |
| RichardWolfVI | it's more of a visual thing | 20:41 |
| kn100 | cool | 20:41 |
| kn100 | http://i40.tinypic.com/2lx4wg.png | 20:41 |
| RichardWolfVI | if you have seen Fedora 10's splash | 20:41 |
| kn100 | thats my desktop at the moment http://i40.tinypic.com/2lx4wg.png | 20:41 |
| RichardWolfVI | pretty | 20:41 |
| kn100 | no thats my wallpaper.... the screenshot didnt work... | 20:41 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 20:42 |
| kn100 | that was wierd | 20:42 |
| kn100 | lol | 20:42 |
| kn100 | this is my desktop http://i44.tinypic.com/20peqdu.png | 20:42 |
| kn100 | what do you guys think? | 20:44 |
| RichardWolfVI | it's nice | 20:45 |
| kn100 | thanks, back on topic now :p | 20:46 |
| RichardWolfVI | hmm, I want to use a nice dock | 20:46 |
| kn100 | that dock is Avant (awn) | 20:46 |
| RichardWolfVI | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBheUFaRnr8 | 20:46 |
| RichardWolfVI | this is Plymouth on Fedora 10 | 20:46 |
| BUGabundo | kn100: GnomeDO or AWM ? | 20:47 |
| kn100 | i was just going to youtube that :p | 20:47 |
| kn100 | AWM sorry | 20:47 |
| kn100 | its in add/remove, just type in avant | 20:47 |
| BUGabundo | I love DO | 20:48 |
| BUGabundo | no need for AWN | 20:48 |
| kn100 | AWN is just easy | 20:49 |
| kn100 | i also use adesklets | 20:49 |
| kn100 | and plymouth looks awesome | 20:49 |
| kn100 | i just wish ubuntu wasnt so 'brown; | 20:49 |
| RichardWolfVI | Heh, it blends well with the brown Zune | 20:53 |
| kn100 | that... is irony | 20:55 |
| kn100 | one thing 9.10 has broken though, is wine sound | 20:57 |
| RichardWolfVI | Nah, the brownest Ubuntu was Gutsy ;P | 20:57 |
| kn100 | spotify (a music program that runs in wine fine in 9.04) plays sound really jerkily in wine | 20:57 |
| BUGabundo | kn100: I have *no* sound, not just wine | 20:58 |
| kn100 | hahahah, i consider myself well off then :p | 20:58 |
| kn100 | but i guarentee you'd prefer your pc over mine | 20:59 |
| kn100 | it doesnt have a case | 20:59 |
| kn100 | its just a pile of parts on my table | 20:59 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: that's why I dong use KK on my only computer ;) | 20:59 |
| RichardWolfVI | I have sound on Wine | 21:00 |
| RichardWolfVI | using ALSA | 21:00 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: not my only PC eheh | 21:00 |
| BUGabundo | and I have JJ cds at hand | 21:00 |
| kklimonda | :) | 21:00 |
| kn100 | wine has sound, but it plays really jerkily, which it never used to on 9.04 or 8.10 or 8.04lts | 21:01 |
| kn100 | its like its pauseplaypauseplaypauseplay (about a quarter of a second delay) | 21:01 |
| Mois | have anyone an idea why the pypanel installation fail? http://pastebin.com/m494321c9 | 21:02 |
| Mois | have imlib2 installed | 21:02 |
| kklimonda | Mois: # | 21:02 |
| kklimonda | ppmodule.c:37:25: error: X11/Xft/Xft.h: No such file or directory | 21:02 |
| kklimonda | $ dpkg -S X11/Xft/Xft.h | 21:03 |
| kklimonda | libxft-dev: /usr/include/X11/Xft/Xft.h | 21:03 |
| Mois | dpkg -S X11/Xft/Xft.h // | 21:03 |
| Mois | dpkg: *X11/Xft/Xft.h* nicht gefunden. | 21:03 |
| Mois | what should i do? | 21:04 |
| kklimonda | install libxft-dev | 21:04 |
| Mois | ok | 21:04 |
| Mois | thanks kklimonda | 21:05 |
| kn100 | man this sound problem is doing my head in | 21:14 |
| Mois | hello | 21:47 |
| kn100 | hello mois | 21:48 |
| Mois | i have another problem. i try to install wbar. i downloaded the source and untar it. change the directory in it. and "make" but this error come "http://pastebin.com/m6ecdaebd" | 21:48 |
| BUGabundo | Mois: hello yet again | 21:48 |
| Mois | :D | 21:48 |
| BUGabundo | Mois: isn't it on the repos? | 21:49 |
| Mois | no not in karmic | 21:49 |
| kn100 | your on karmic too? | 21:49 |
| Mois | yes | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | it was dropped? | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | !info wbar | 21:49 |
| ubottu | Package wbar does not exist in karmic | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | !info wbar jaunty | 21:50 |
| ubottu | Package wbar does not exist in jaunty | 21:50 |
| Mois | lol | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | !info wbar edgy | 21:50 |
| ubottu | 'edgy' is not a valid distribution: dapper, dapper-backports, hardy, hardy-backports, intrepid, intrepid-backports, jaunty, jaunty-backports, karmic, karmic-backports, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, medibuntu, partner | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | !info wbar dapper | 21:50 |
| Mois | !info wbar hardy | 21:50 |
| ubottu | Package wbar does not exist in hardy | 21:50 |
| ubottu | Package wbar does not exist in dapper | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 21:50 |
| Mois | :D | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | it was *never * on archive I guess | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | !whatis wbar | 21:51 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about whatis wbar | 21:51 |
| Mois | lol | 21:51 |
| Mois | ubottu: you are silly :D:D | 21:51 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 21:51 |
| Mois | :D:D | 21:51 |
| rski | latest release of wbar was in spe 2007 | 21:51 |
| rski | probably not updated to work with gcc 4.x series | 21:51 |
| Mois | hää | 21:52 |
| Mois | so tell me what is this at this picture http://ubuntu-pics.de/bild/14877/relax1_Q47480.png | 21:52 |
| Mois | the right in the air and the panel | 21:52 |
| rski | ram cpu usage to the right | 21:52 |
| rski | awn with some programs running in the bottom? | 21:53 |
| Mois | yes i saw :D | 21:53 |
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| Mois | ok thanks. | 21:54 |
| === pace_t_zulu|nash is now known as pace_t_zulu | ||
| Mois | so. i have another problem with mpd i've installed it. and editited the config but when i want to start-create-db it shows me "mkdir: kann Verzeichnis „~/.mpd“ nicht anlegen: No such file or directory | 22:11 |
| Mois | chown: Zugriff auf „~/.mpd“ nicht möglich: No such file or directory | 22:11 |
| Mois | " this is my config "http://pastebin.com/mcbb54b7" | 22:11 |
| Mois | than it stands on *creating ~/.mpd/tag_cache... | 22:12 |
| Mois | and it comes "failed to stat playlist directory "/home/raw/.mpd/playlists" (config line 9): No such file or directory" | 22:13 |
| Mois | and when i make the directory it comes "unable to bind port 6600: Address already in use | 22:13 |
| Mois | maybe MPD is still running? | 22:13 |
| Mois | Trace/breakpoint trap | 22:13 |
| Mois | " | 22:13 |
| Mois | very mysterios | 22:14 |
| Mois | anyone some idea? | 22:14 |
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| Mois | !info zsi | 22:34 |
| ubottu | Package zsi does not exist in karmic | 22:34 |
| Mois | !info zsi jaunty | 22:34 |
| ubottu | Package zsi does not exist in jaunty | 22:34 |
| BUGabundo | Mois: don't abuse the bot. use packages.ubuntu.com or packages.debian.org | 22:34 |
| Mois | ok | 22:35 |
| Mois | sorry | 22:35 |
| kn100 | bots have feelings too you know | 22:35 |
| Mois | yes. i forgot | 22:37 |
| kn100 | say sorry to the bot mois | 22:37 |
| kn100 | :p | 22:38 |
| Mois | ok | 22:38 |
| Mois | ubottu: I'm totally sorry. | 22:38 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 22:38 |
| kn100 | :) | 22:38 |
| Mois | :) | 22:38 |
| Mois | :D | 22:38 |
| calc | hi | 22:40 |
| calc | my internet connection is so lsow i can't even see what i am typing | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | hey calc | 22:43 |
| BUGabundo | calc: screen? | 22:44 |
| calc | BUGabundo: yea | 22:44 |
| calc | BUGabundo: ssh from hotel rey juan carlos back to houston, i think i am getting about 1.5KB/s | 22:44 |
| calc | UDS starts on monday :) | 22:45 |
| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| calc | this is really painful | 22:45 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 22:45 |
| calc | i'm trying to do a new OOo build over screen | 22:45 |
| BUGabundo | let me flood you a bit more then | 22:45 |
| BUGabundo | ahahaaha | 22:45 |
| calc | :P | 22:45 |
| BUGabundo | that will result in BAD BAD experience | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | I bet | 22:46 |
| calc | it reminds me of running linux on a mac quadra 840av | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | so what are you working now, besides the 20% OOo? | 22:46 |
| calc | oem team | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | I've read | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | still have mail catch up | 22:47 |
| calc | i'm pretty sure thats the full extent of what i can say about that :) | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | what do you do there? | 22:47 |
| calc | work with oem projects like getting ubuntu onto vendors hardware | 22:48 |
| RichardWolfVI | Awesome :3 | 22:48 |
| RichardWolfVI | Hmm, Dells are not shipping with Ubuntu anymore here :/ | 22:48 |
| calc | RichardWolfVI: which country? | 22:49 |
| RichardWolfVI | Colombia | 22:49 |
| BUGabundo | calc: I blame all those gadjets gives you guys got, for spamming the Internet connection eheh | 22:49 |
| calc | BUGabundo: actually that probably is the reason | 22:49 |
| calc | BUGabundo: the previous hotel internet got really slow after we got the toys | 22:50 |
| calc | and this hotel's internet seems even slower | 22:50 |
| calc | its pretty cool toy btw, i played with it a bit last night | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | ehehe | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | its a virus! | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | kills internet, the world is doomed | 22:51 |
| calc | RichardWolfVI: i think they still sell them in the US (at least afaik) but they are kinda hidden on the website | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | Cybernet (Terminator reference) has begun | 22:52 |
| calc | BUGabundo: i think part of the problem is they needed to all download OS update which was probably big | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | Cloud sucks right? | 22:52 |
| calc | cloud? | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | you guys need a mirror or P2P updates | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | calc: yah cloud updates eeheehehe | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | everything is now in the "cloud" lol | 22:53 |
| calc | hehe | 22:53 |
| kn100 | thats a good idea | 22:53 |
| kn100 | release updates over bittorrent | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | calc: nvm.... U1 stupid joke | 22:53 |
| kn100 | less strain on the server | 22:53 |
| calc | ah i see what you mean now | 22:53 |
| calc | well the little chumby's don't run bittorrent | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | kn100: I didn't manage to get it working for Karmic | 22:54 |
| kn100 | get what working | 22:54 |
| BUGabundo | kn100: bt updates | 22:55 |
| kn100 | i dont use bittorrent updates | 22:55 |
| kn100 | im just saying its a good idea | 22:55 |
| BUGabundo | you just said "it" should be used | 22:55 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 22:55 |
| kn100 | :p | 22:55 |
| BUGabundo | you should do what you think should be done | 22:56 |
| BUGabundo | or have you no morals? | 22:56 |
| BUGabundo | :p | 22:56 |
| kn100 | LOL! | 22:56 |
| RichardWolfVI | There shoulfd be a P2P implementation for updates, what ever happened to Jigdo? | 22:56 |
| BUGabundo | there is for bt | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | apt-debtorrent | 22:57 |
| calc | jigdo doesn't really do bt | 22:57 |
| maxb | Jigdo is not P2P | 22:57 |
| calc | its just a way to build cds from a archive | 22:57 |
| RichardWolfVI | well, it's a distributed download system | 22:57 |
| maxb | No it's not, it's a *partial* download system | 22:58 |
| RichardWolfVI | not only for CDs | 22:58 |
| RichardWolfVI | oh | 22:58 |
| calc | oh? hmm i must have misunderstood what it was for | 22:59 |
| calc | or it has gotten more featuressince i read about it about 8 years ago | 22:59 |
| BUGabundo | calc: LOL | 22:59 |
| * calc < is old | 23:00 | |
| RichardWolfVI | I mean, how is it a "partial" download system? | 23:00 |
| BUGabundo | calc: yeah you now seem older then I though | 23:01 |
| calc | BUGabundo: how old is that? :) | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | no idea | 23:02 |
| calc | i mean how old are you | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | I always fail those predictions | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | so I don't make them | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | calc: check my wiki. its there | 23:03 |
| calc | on wiki.ubuntu.com ? | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 23:03 |
| poseidon | If we do get a theme update this release, when would we start to see it? | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | poseidon: you are coming late to the discussion | 23:04 |
| kn100 | ubuntu needs a theme update urgently | 23:04 |
| rski | when it's uplaoded to the repos? | 23:04 |
| rski | kn100: it has one | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | we already explain we are not getting a new theme | 23:04 |
| kn100 | yeah the dust one, but its not very good | 23:04 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: we dont? :/ | 23:05 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: damn.. | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: I mention this every week. by now you should know | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | Mark said it | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | the Design team is not yet complete | 23:05 |
| kn100 | i would love to join | 23:06 |
| calc | ah yes i am older than you | 23:06 |
| kn100 | i have some experience in gfx | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | so only 10.04 is expected to gain a new theme | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | calc: eheh who isn't ? | 23:06 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: Somehow I've missed it every time :d | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | kn100: apply | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | there are opening for job on canonical | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | kn100: http://webapps.ubuntu.com/employment/ | 23:07 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: that's kinda sad.. I mean New Wave is nice but I'd love to see some major rework in art.. | 23:07 |
| poseidon | BUGabundo, searching the web it seemed like a new theme was the only thing expected out of this release | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | calc: question remains: how older? | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | poseidon: it _was_ expected but is now delayed | 23:07 |
| calc | BUGabundo: i'm 32 | 23:08 |
| poseidon | so what should people be told to expect from the new release? | 23:08 |
| kklimonda | poseidon: We'll know more after UDS probably.. | 23:08 |
| poseidon | Well a new theme would kick of the lts rather nicely | 23:09 |
| kn100 | poseidon you gotta understand theres nobody to make it | 23:09 |
| kn100 | or very little people | 23:09 |
| BUGabundo | poseidon: only 10.04 OR 10.10 will be LTS | 23:09 |
| * calc thinks it will proably stick to 10.04 | 23:10 | |
| BUGabundo | kn100: are they dwarfs ?!? | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | calc: not sure... debian sync and release | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | but they tend to not make the shcedule | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | so you better go for our | 23:10 |
| poseidon | Either or, I would like to see a new theme for the lts. | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: PVT | 23:10 |
| kn100 | is there a guide to making a new theme | 23:11 |
| * poseidon is horrible with graphics. Thats why he always has to get them off the internet for his games | 23:11 | |
| calc | there are other reasons to stick to 10.04 but i think it will be discussed at either this UDS or next (not sure when) | 23:11 |
| BUGabundo | kn100: #ubuntu-art | 23:12 |
| BUGabundo | or similar | 23:12 |
| calc | there definitely is work being done on a new theme but it takes a lot of work so might not make 9.10 | 23:12 |
| calc | not sure if it will be a different color or just work fdifferently though | 23:12 |
| BUGabundo | well KDE has what? 3 guys on it? | 23:12 |
| BUGabundo | and Pinheiro does most of it | 23:12 |
| BUGabundo | and they release every 6 months | 23:12 |
| BUGabundo | although 4.3 will not have a new theme | 23:13 |
| calc | all i have seen is a mockup and i can't comment further but it is being worked on for ubuntu | 23:13 |
| calc | so don't worry the theme will improve when the work is done :) | 23:14 |
| * BUGabundo calc is full of secrets! | 23:14 | |
| BUGabundo | gotta love all this about community, right? | 23:14 |
| * BUGabundo hides from flames | 23:15 | |
| * calc avoids the argument :) | 23:15 | |
| poseidon | wow. Working for conical looks amazing. Attending ubuntu meetings as a requirement is awesome. | 23:16 |
| BUGabundo | AllHands | 23:16 |
| kn100 | haha canonical are mad | 23:16 |
| BUGabundo | and then they get gifts | 23:16 |
| BUGabundo | ~200 devs | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | and now to mix with Community at UDS | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | I wish I was there | 23:17 |
| kn100 | canonical are a mad company | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | maybe someday you guys come to Portugal | 23:17 |
| kn100 | how they make money by selling support... | 23:17 |
| calc | bugnope not 200 devs | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | kn100: s/are/is/ | 23:17 |
| kn100 | what? | 23:17 |
| calc | grr i am so slow that tab didn't even complete | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | ahaahahahahahahaahahahahahahaa | 23:18 |
| kn100 | lol | 23:18 |
| * BUGabundo hands calc a cookie | 23:18 | |
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