[00:27] I have an idea, and I want to know do you all think, wouldn't it be cool to have a PPA containing daily builds for the last ati r6xx/r7xx 3D support in order to be tested on ubuntu, and this way helping to speed up their stabilization and development? [00:28] jordi1983: doesn't the ppa for x-testers already provide trunk drivers? [00:29] yeah but they are pretty outdated afaik [00:29] how can trunk be outdated? [00:29] Which is the url? I think I've checked that PPA today [00:30] I've read on the Phoronix forums that the only way to check out this code is through the git repositorya [00:33] please wait [00:33] if by x testers you mean xorg crack pushers there isn't the r6xx 3d support branch, is the master branch [00:33] https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/ [00:34] https://edge.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa [00:35] thread https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-April/028181.html [00:35] jordi1983: ^^^^^^^^^ [00:37] these packages doesn't provide 3d for r6xx/7xx, they provide EXA and xvideo [00:40] there is a branch now called r6xx-r7xx-3d at the xorg git that provides DRI support for that video cards [00:40] look: http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonhd%3Aexperimental_3D [00:41] you have to talk to the #ubuntu-x guys [00:41] I don't do video [00:41] ok [00:41] thanks [00:41] maybe cwillu wants to help you out [00:41] cwillu: ping [00:41] cwillu: my friend are you up ?? or traveling around the country ? [00:44] * cwillu hides [00:44] cwillu: hayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy [00:44] poki pokes [00:44] miss you dude [00:44] what's new? [00:44] jordi1983, dunno, the first line of that link seems pretty direct and to the point :p [00:44] * cwillu pokes BUGabundo with a stick [00:45] * BUGabundo feels so much better [00:48] there it explains how to build and install the files but I'd like somebody to do the packaging in a PPA I don't know how to do it, I think there is a lot of dependencies and things you need to know to package a video driver in the right way [00:49] you know DRM, DRI and so on... [00:49] sorry, back and forth between channels :p [00:50] yep, sorry [00:50] maybe it would be better to discuss this on #ubuntu-x [00:51] more likely to get useful answers there :p [00:51] ok [01:19] BUGabundo, if a driver is blacklisted, will the device still show up in lspci?? [01:19] should [01:19] don't know [01:19] no it won't [01:19] :)) [01:19] yeah, i thought it was a good question [01:19] mikeh789: I'm not sure [01:20] I guess it depends on HW [01:20] and how kernel supports it [01:29] hey bug [01:31] hey ow [01:32] mikeah789 was helping with myh wireless problem [01:32] refered me to you [01:32] my wireless is not showing up in my devicexs [01:32] it works when i boot to windows, but it stoped working this morning for some reason, it worked after the install [01:33] owner: on karmic? [01:33] ubuntu [01:34] 9.04 [01:37] owner: support for stable versions is on #ubuntu [01:37] this channel is for karmic 9.10 support and discussion [01:38] I thought you were using 9.10?? [01:40] I am [01:41] mikeh789: ^^ [01:43] uhh ok [01:46] so i shouldnt be here then? [01:47] owner: you are free to be here [01:47] just that this is not the place to discuss that [01:48] wana pm me? [01:48] not really [01:49] its 2am here [01:49] can't keep my eyes open for long [01:49] kk [01:49] ;) [01:49] plus I can't provide all that good support [01:49] I bet #ubuntu and www.ubuntuforuns.com will help you more [01:51] BUGabundo, thanks for your help, misunderstood owner and sent him over [01:51] mikeh789: no prob, really [01:51] keep doing a great job [02:59] hey guys, just installed alpha 1. It's the first version to work (well) with my wireless driver. :) [02:59] When I installed gnome did not fit the size of my main monitor (I have two plugged in). After I installed the nvidia proprietary driver and rebooted monitors began to work fine. [03:00] I'm impressed with the hardware support [03:10] hey all -- anyone want to help me with a broken package? [03:42] Is gnash worth giving another shot, or should I just go with non free? === ripps_ is now known as ripps [05:22] Good afternoon [05:35] so, the wav files used by pidgin are corrupted or something [05:44] Greetings, I updated the Intel driver and it seems to switch to low graphics mode; compiz doesn't work, and my monitor falls back to 1024x768, from its nativa 1440x900 [05:49] RichardWolfVI: anything interesting in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old ? In particular, is it using the intel driver and failing visibly? [05:57] is UDS on now? I haven't been keeping up[ with things. [05:57] !uds [05:57] The Ubuntu Developer Summit is being held May 25th-29th in Barcelona, Spain. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS for more information. [05:58] hi DanaG [06:00] ah. [06:31] crdlb: Pardon the HUGE dalay, is it normal that in the logs you get repetitive printing of VESA and monitor modes? [06:37] crdlb: I downgraded to the 2.4 driver, it seems the latest update to 2.7 seems to fallback to VESA. [06:43] crdlb: It's falling back to VESA [06:44] RichardWolfVI: well, I was hoping to catch the actual error [06:44] (WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size [06:44] which I why I said to look in .old, but that doesn't always work [06:46] crdlb: What do you recommend? [06:46] Should I report the issue? [06:53] OK, the bug was confirmed already. === ^root^ is now known as error404notfound === Solidus_ is now known as Barridus [08:30] Hooray, upgrading to Karmic alpha 1 worked! [08:38] Hew: do you notice anything different from jaunty [08:38] ? [08:38] any changes except newer version of packages in karmic right now? [08:39] tgpraveen: Nothing immediately apparent other than karmic in my sources.list :P [08:39] tgpraveen: but I've only been using it for 10 min, I'm still working my way through synaptic [08:39] k.anybody else any changes? [08:40] tgpraveen: What changes are you looking for? Visual changes aren't likely to be around for a while. New package versions are the main thing. [08:40] any changes implemented in notify-osd [08:41] did the support for media keys in notifyosd get implemented [08:41] tgpraveen: UDS hasn't even happened yet, it's very early days in terms of new features and release goals [08:41] hmmm..yeah I guess so [08:41] at this stage it's Debian syncs to get excited about :) [08:42] but I think I saw a screenshot somewhere with that so was asking [08:42] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd [08:42] you knw by the time uds takes place and completes its nearly time for alpha 2 release and I think feature freeze is at alpha 5 or 6 something [08:43] no change between Jaunty and Karmic [08:43] so new features really have less time [08:44] my experience is the Ubuntu/Canonical developed features seem to appear a few days before FeatureFreeze [08:44] but for new major releases of software, yes that just follows the release schedule [08:45] there's nothing stopping developers from introducing new features now [08:45] new package versions = new features [08:48] Hmm, a small blunder on bug 379504, just messed up all i915 based chipsed. [08:48] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/379504/+text) [08:50] 332562 [09:37] hi [09:37] where can I suggest features for Karmic? [10:19] anyone? [10:19] !brainstorm [10:20] Post your ideas for ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like! [10:20] thanks bazhang [10:20] probably a tad bit too late for Karmic though [10:20] ah, i bet you that Brainstorm is built on drupal [13:01] hello guys [13:01] i have a big problem since 8.10 [13:01] for support try #ubuntu channel [13:01] when i try to restart or shutdown the notebook. the screen is over white backslahs and freeze [13:01] (unless you are using 9.10 now) [13:01] i use 9.10 [13:02] speedhawk: But if this problem happen on 8.10 and 9.04 than there is little chance that we can help you any more [13:02] speedhawk: have you reported bug? [13:02] kklimonda: no [13:03] but i post a thread to ubuntuusers.de and asked in ubuntu-de but no one have a idea. [13:04] speedhawk: Reporting the bug on LP would make it easier for developers to notice it. [13:04] ok [13:05] first i install the new updates 'cos there are some X updates. and when the problem stands. i ask in #ubuntu and report a bug [13:11] is there any chance to see the output from the shutdown? [13:12] because i think the bootsplash is my problem === vishalrao_away is now known as vishalrao [14:03] G'Day all [14:07] hello some [14:07] i must say. the alpha runs stable. anyone else who think so? [14:10] so far so good , Mois [14:11] but the temperature is very high. i move 2000data ( 30GB ) and my Cpu is 80° [14:12] laptop ? [14:12] yes [14:13] Mois, maybe choose a lower graphics/power performance setting [14:13] ok. [14:14] irqbalance right? [14:14] try the balance yes [14:17] hey guys i need some serious help.. i have an SD card in my Dell mini that has a bunch of my videos from a trip i am currently on in South East Asia.. well today i opened up my SD card and all of the files have a bunch of ASCII symbols and locks on the icons.. i cant do anything with it either [14:21] if you can't do anything with it i guess you can sell it to someone [14:21] so it's not enterily useless [14:23] hahaha how helpful [14:23] When will translations for karmic be available for editing in rosetta? [14:24] genii: no idea! [14:24] ricochet: you aren't being any helpfull either [14:24] "can't do anything with it" [14:24] hey rski [14:24] is useless info [14:24] be more specific [14:24] hey buga [14:27] god riddance [14:28] rski: I know not every user is helpful [14:28] but try to help them any way... [14:28] CoC ok? [14:29] BUGabundo1: why is he using karmic on a vacation? [14:29] i doubt he even was [14:29] eheh [14:29] yeah === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo [14:29] i _TRIED_ to help him [14:29] but he made it difficult [14:29] I don't know [14:29] I didn't catch up [14:29] I just saw [14:30] (02:27:51 PM) rski: god riddance [14:30] I got me a bit shocked... nothing too much [14:30] I had it happening to me too [14:30] hey BluesKaj [14:30] mouse & KB froze for the 1st time [14:30] hi BUGabundo [14:31] even the ctrl+alt+Esc didn't work [14:31] of course [14:31] what is it supposed to do? [14:32] close X [14:32] it opens a small kill icon [14:32] looks like askull [14:33] of course it wouldn't worlk cuz X froze [14:34] doest? [14:34] not here! [14:34] I used the recovery version when booting back into karmic [14:35] when I get a freeze I always check my disks [14:35] just in case... [14:35] heh , just tried ctrl+alt+Esc , clicked on the desktop now it's black [14:35] damn [14:35] I can't do it [14:36] let me try it on another app [14:36] nothing [14:36] hmm , kde or gnome? [14:37] gnome [14:38] * BUGabundo thinks we all should have a tag on our head like "I are Babuine", telling all our specs! [14:38] BRB [14:45] not fooling with that cmnd again unless absolutely necessary [14:47] * BluesKaj checks out 'cranky geeks' latest episode [15:24] kklimonda: does this make any sense to you http://hellotxt.com/l/U6cxVo [15:24] ? [15:24] trying to connect my GPS and kernel just fails to mount it [15:25] BUGabundo: heh, microbloggin isn't the way of pasting debug logs ;) [15:25] no, it doesn't [15:25] damn [15:25] ok, bbl [15:25] not sure if it is because of [15:25] MSFT wince or kernel bug [15:27] anybody else? [15:27] BluesKaj: ? [15:31] BUGabundo, no idea... I have a gps system but haven't tried it on any OS yet ...it's just gathering dust :) [15:33] BluesKaj: but no idea from the error log? [15:34] driver probs , maybe ? [15:34] USB driver? [15:35] dunno , could be [15:36] NDRIVE GPS usb driver for linux [17:00] I just installed my first Ubuntu 9.04 server edition. What is suppose to replace dselect? [17:01] mdlueck: support for stable versions is on #ubuntu or you could try #ubuntu-server [17:01] #ubuntu+1 is for karmic 9.10 support and discussion [17:01] I just realized that my bookmark was to the incorrect group. Thanks for the pointer [17:07] no prob mdlueck [17:07] didn't you find the # to quiet to be #ubuntu ? [17:07] :)) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:33] hello [17:34] i have an soundproblem. i've installed 9.10 today and the welcome sound is okay. but rhythmbox dont'. what should i do? alsamixer is everything of full. [17:34] and nothing is mute [17:41] Mois: any sound at all? [17:41] or is it just RB not working? [17:41] RB [17:43] it could be broken on karmic [17:44] yes [17:45] might [17:47] what should i do? [17:48] Someone just linked me to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DeviceKit -- the GUI for disks and SMART there is really nice. When can we see this in ubuntu? :O [17:49] Mois: you could file a bug. but it may take a week (until UDS ends) for it to get any real attention [17:49] Twigathy: devicekit is already in so i guess soon maybe? [17:49] Mois: run on a cli: $ ubuntu-bug rhythmbox [17:49] rski: oooo, shiny =) [17:49] and describe your problem [17:50] yes [17:56] BUGabundo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/379779 voilla [17:56] Ubuntu bug 379779 in rhythmbox "No sound in Rhythmbox" [Undecided,New] [17:56] ok Mois. great work [17:56] thanks. [17:57] one more thing [17:57] yes [17:57] Mois: add also audio info [17:57] which? [17:57] $ ubuntu-bug -p alsa-base 379779 [17:58] "just in case" [17:58] ok [17:58] humm [17:58] Mois: your system is not UPTODATE [17:58] RM is v 0.12.0-0ubuntu4 [17:59] and you have 0.12.1-0ubuntu1 [17:59] please open Update-manager and update [17:59] my system is UPTODATE! [18:00] only findutils is not uptopdate [18:01] Mois: I'm sorry but it seems not to be [18:01] you have an old version of RB [18:01] hm. [18:01] i take a look [18:02] no my system is 100% uptopdate [18:02] Mois: pastebin : $ apt-cache policy rhythmbox [18:03] http://pastebin.com/m3387072f [18:04] your mirror seems to be lagging behing [18:04] *behind [18:04] german mirrors [18:04] can you please temporarily change to another or, or even MAIN ? [18:16] ja [18:17] Mois: fixed? [18:17] no [19:21] hey [19:21] RichardWolfVI: hi [19:22] seems they removed a patch that caused the VESA fallback [19:33] sorry to bother folks, but I have an upgrade issue that is not something that the usual #ubuntu folks will catch. I upgraded to Intrepid. shortly after I rebooted, 'overflow' was created for /tmp. the root fs is not full but some FS error? is reporting it as 100%. I have had this specific error when I upgrade to a new stable release before. [19:35] rm'ing files on the root fs does not create space. [19:35] humm [19:35] aren't there a few virtual mount points ? [19:35] maybe those are the ones you are seeing ? [19:36] when the system boots up it see that the root fs is reporting 100% and uses a routine in /etc/init.d/ to create an 'emergency' /tmp [19:37] so its not the regular file systems [19:37] or the expected ones for the kernel [19:38] kevix: Is your disk more then 95% full? The last 5% is reserved for root. [19:39] the issue is that if I remove files from / (root) it does not fix the issue as I had more than 700mb free before this error started [19:41] how large is the total fs? [19:42] albert23: I think it was 20gb unformatted. but the size of the FS or the actual space left are not the issue. [19:43] kevix: 5% of 20GB is 1 GB reserved for user root. You will see space coming available if more then 1GB is free [19:43] inodes are also still available? [19:43] geser: I checked the inodes. many thousands left [19:45] albert23: my system was working fine (with 600mb free) a few reboots ago. so the issue happened after 'something' upgrade [19:49] i tried using an older kernel, I tried modifing the fstype from ext3 to ext2 and back to ext3. no change. === blueyed_ is now known as blueyed [20:35] hi, i just upgraded to 9.10, and i have to say, it feels a little faster, but other than that, whats the plan with hoary? [20:36] hoary ???? [20:36] hoary? [20:36] hoary was released on April 8, 2005. [20:36] lol my mistake [20:37] karmic [20:37] gimme a break lol, very tired [20:37] new shades of brown [20:37] newer kernel X drivers packagess, the usual stuff [20:37] rski oh noez more brown? [20:37] * BUGabundo hears an echo [20:38] horay ? [20:38] HAHA [20:38] the first thing i do when i reinstall ubuntu is get rid of the brown [20:38] it was supposed to get a new theme [20:38] but according to Mark the desing team is still incomplete [20:38] Yeah, my theme is Black/light grey [20:38] i just use dusk [20:38] so only 10.04 will have new theme [20:39] what? 12 months for a new theme? [20:39] one important thing is the opsible replacement of Usplash [20:39] yeah [20:39] here is mine http://fileland.bugabundo.net/fotos/Linux/Desktop [20:39] changing the way it chainboots as well isnt it? [20:39] They might be switching to Plymouth [20:40] thats the one [20:40] how is that better than the current one? is it speed [20:40] also they uploaded devicekit [20:41] Well, it uses actual graphic acceleration [20:41] it's more of a visual thing [20:41] cool [20:41] http://i40.tinypic.com/2lx4wg.png [20:41] if you have seen Fedora 10's splash [20:41] thats my desktop at the moment http://i40.tinypic.com/2lx4wg.png [20:41] pretty [20:41] no thats my wallpaper.... the screenshot didnt work... [20:42] eheh [20:42] that was wierd [20:42] lol [20:42] this is my desktop http://i44.tinypic.com/20peqdu.png [20:44] what do you guys think? [20:45] it's nice [20:46] thanks, back on topic now :p [20:46] hmm, I want to use a nice dock [20:46] that dock is Avant (awn) [20:46] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBheUFaRnr8 [20:46] this is Plymouth on Fedora 10 [20:47] kn100: GnomeDO or AWM ? [20:47] i was just going to youtube that :p [20:47] AWM sorry [20:47] its in add/remove, just type in avant [20:48] I love DO [20:48] no need for AWN [20:49] AWN is just easy [20:49] i also use adesklets [20:49] and plymouth looks awesome [20:49] i just wish ubuntu wasnt so 'brown; [20:53] Heh, it blends well with the brown Zune [20:55] that... is irony [20:57] one thing 9.10 has broken though, is wine sound [20:57] Nah, the brownest Ubuntu was Gutsy ;P [20:57] spotify (a music program that runs in wine fine in 9.04) plays sound really jerkily in wine [20:58] kn100: I have *no* sound, not just wine [20:58] hahahah, i consider myself well off then :p [20:59] but i guarentee you'd prefer your pc over mine [20:59] it doesnt have a case [20:59] its just a pile of parts on my table [20:59] BUGabundo: that's why I dong use KK on my only computer ;) [21:00] I have sound on Wine [21:00] using ALSA [21:00] kklimonda: not my only PC eheh [21:00] and I have JJ cds at hand [21:00] :) [21:01] wine has sound, but it plays really jerkily, which it never used to on 9.04 or 8.10 or 8.04lts [21:01] its like its pauseplaypauseplaypauseplay (about a quarter of a second delay) [21:02] have anyone an idea why the pypanel installation fail? http://pastebin.com/m494321c9 [21:02] have imlib2 installed [21:02] Mois: # [21:02] ppmodule.c:37:25: error: X11/Xft/Xft.h: No such file or directory [21:03] $ dpkg -S X11/Xft/Xft.h [21:03] libxft-dev: /usr/include/X11/Xft/Xft.h [21:03] dpkg -S X11/Xft/Xft.h // [21:03] dpkg: *X11/Xft/Xft.h* nicht gefunden. [21:04] what should i do? [21:04] install libxft-dev [21:04] ok [21:05] thanks kklimonda [21:14] man this sound problem is doing my head in [21:47] hello [21:48] hello mois [21:48] i have another problem. i try to install wbar. i downloaded the source and untar it. change the directory in it. and "make" but this error come "http://pastebin.com/m6ecdaebd" [21:48] Mois: hello yet again [21:48] :D [21:49] Mois: isn't it on the repos? [21:49] no not in karmic [21:49] your on karmic too? [21:49] yes [21:49] it was dropped? [21:49] !info wbar [21:49] Package wbar does not exist in karmic [21:50] !info wbar jaunty [21:50] Package wbar does not exist in jaunty [21:50]