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* BUGabundo thinks about abandoning kmail. every dev is either a sleep or busy with other stuff, to help me just check source 00:16
mrooneyBUGabundo: thunderbird doesn't cut it for you?00:18
BUGabundonope00:18
BUGabundoI love kmail its my fab mail client00:18
BUGabundobut kde4 is to unstable00:18
bcurtiswx<cough> gnome </cough>00:22
yuriyBUGabundo: keep in mind you are on alpha packages of a beta00:23
BUGabundoI use gnome too bcurtiswx00:23
BUGabundoand a bunch of kde apps00:23
bcurtiswxevolution?00:23
BUGabundoif anything fails with that integrantion ill file bugs00:23
BUGabundoevo is a great PIM00:23
BUGabundobut poor email client00:23
bcurtiswxhaha00:23
BUGabundokmail is really good00:23
BUGabundobelieve me00:23
bcurtiswxwhat makes one better than the other?00:23
bcurtiswxit gives me my mail.. and send my mail out00:24
bcurtiswxwhat else am i supposed to want?00:24
BUGabundook, mine currently doesn't allow me to send mail out for some folder, some +1 on evo LOL00:25
BUGabundobcurtiswx: it's the experience I guess00:25
bcurtiswxcan't disagree i guess00:26
kwallmoin06:18
kwallIs there a package against which Ubuntu web site bugs can be filed? See, for example,  bug  377667.06:20
ubot4Launchpad bug 377667 in ubuntu "Ubuntu sites need multiple registrations" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37766706:20
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ppereracan anyone point me in the right direction for troubleshooting system speaker 'beeps'06:40
kwallpperera: what's the trouble, exactly?06:41
ppererawas just doing some coding on my laptop and for some reason on a periodic basis the speakers sounding out 3 tones06:43
ppereratrying to find some troubleshooting documentation that might describe what they mean06:43
kwallbattery going dead?06:43
ppereracurrently on AC06:44
ppereraand battery is 100%06:44
kwallionic bombardment is my stock explanation for non-deterministic behavior ;)06:45
kwallIs the periodicity regular?06:45
ppererayea ~ 25sec06:47
ppererafrom the end of the 3rd tone to the start of the 1st in the next period06:48
kwallIs the pcspkr module loaded and if so does it stop if you unload it?06:55
ppererano unloading it doesnt help07:00
kwallSuck. Nothing useful in the system log, I presume?07:00
ppereranothing that i can determine07:04
jmarsdenpperera: Some systems beep when they are overheating... did your CPU fan just fail??07:05
YoBoYhi07:09
kwallmoin YoBoY07:09
ppererano fan is still spinning07:09
kwallpperera: (SWAG) maybe bug 279187?07:11
ubot4Launchpad bug 279187 in usplash "regression: usplash causes system to beep aloud" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27918707:11
kwallI'm just poking through Launchpad to see if other folks have reported similar probs07:11
ppererayea same07:12
jmarsdenpperera: You could also try booting from a LiveCD and see if it still beeps... might determine if this is a software config issue or something lower level doing the beeping?07:14
YoBoYit's caused by the nvidia driver?07:14
kwallI'm sticking with my original diagnosis. Ionic bombardment.07:17
YoBoYkwall: have you found the ubuntu website project on LP ?07:18
kwallYoBoY: not yet07:19
YoBoYhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website07:19
YoBoYperhaps...07:19
kwallWow, I'm blind.07:19
YoBoYsure :)07:19
kwallYoBoY: thanks07:27
YoBoYyou're welcome :)07:27
kwallJust a metric buttload of bugs in LP.07:28
ppereraweird the beeping stopped07:44
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askandCan someone "read" backtraces and understand what happens here? http://pastebin.com/m372f510810:22
kklimondaaskand: can you reproduce it?10:26
kklimondawell, you probably can if you are running it under gdb10:27
askandkklimonda: yep10:27
askandkklimonda: well, it happens "randomly" so it is not really reproduce I guess10:27
kklimondaheh..10:28
kklimondaaskand: what version?10:30
askandkklimonda: 1.61-0ubuntu0~jaunty0 e.g the one from transmission PPA10:31
kklimondaaskand: also before you run it gdb set it:10:31
kklimondahandle SIGPIPE nostop noprint nopass10:31
kklimondatransmission ppa?10:31
kklimondado you have a link?10:32
askandkklimonda: ok before I type "run"?10:32
kklimondayes10:32
askandkklimonda: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/transmissionbt/ubuntu <ubuntu_release_name> main10:33
askandkklimonda: I downloaded deluge in the meantime but I will try  handle SIGPIPE nostop noprint nopass later10:33
kklimondaaskand: Also, Could you use transmission from this ppa: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kklimonda/+archive/ppa ?10:36
kklimondaaskand: I'm working on merge of 1.61 to KK so testing it would be great.10:36
askandkklimonda: ok I will use that instead10:37
askandkklimonda: aptitude segfaults for me, that isn't very nice10:43
kklimondaaskand: well, it isn't :)10:44
askandkklimonda: apt-get aswell '10:44
askandhm10:44
kklimondaaskand: after you added my ppa? nice :)10:45
askandkklimonda: yes, some kind of ubuntuvirus ;) I solved it by removing pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin so I will install transmission from your ppa now10:46
askandkklimonda: its working fine so far, will have it running for a while to see if it's still there when I'm back10:51
kklimondaaskand: If you have a crash send me an email (kklimonda(at)syntaxhighlighted.com) or catch me here.10:51
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askand1kklimonda: After installing transmission from your PPA it didn't crash (I think) but it did freeze and became unresponsivie. I had to kill it. After I added your PPA, I can not install transmission-dbg13:24
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kklimondaaskand1: When did it freeze? I guess I'll have to add -dbg package, it wasn't created by debian maintainer..13:29
askand1kklimonda: while I was away, I'm not sure when13:29
kklimondaOh, so it froze by itself without your interaction? Weird..13:30
askand1kklimonda: Yes, but I think it was checking a big file (10gb) when it happened13:34
askand1checking it as in it had downloaded some of it and checked how much it had downloaded13:34
kklimondaaskand1: heh, It doesn't sound like it was my fault.. I'll prepare -dbg package later.13:36
askand1kklimonda: no don't think so, the version I used earlier from the transmission PPA would have crashed if it was open for so long and that has not happened13:37
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kklimondaaskand1: I've sent an updated package to PPA, It's building right now.14:45
kklimondaaskand1: There is new package - transmission-gtk-dbg which has all debug symbols ;)14:46
BUGabundohey kklimonda askand114:48
kklimondahey14:48
kklimondaoh, ppa will support dbgsym automatic build "soon" ;)14:52
BUGabundoYAY14:54
askand1hey thanks kklimonda will try it15:20
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williamhello buygs18:12
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BUGabundohello will18:12
kklimondais dtchen around?18:31
BUGabundokklimonda: nope18:32
BUGabundohasn't been "in" for 3 days18:32
BUGabundoif you see him let me know18:32
BUGabundono audio around here18:32
kklimondaBUGabundo: He went to UDS? :)18:32
BUGabundocan't even get help upstream18:32
BUGabundoyep18:32
overshardI have a curious bug with alsa sound that I can reproduce. My USB dac/amp stopped working and now will only work when i sudo alsa force-reload and then play sound while super usered... noting works as normal user.18:35
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burtlemy sound only works with browsing and with vlc?18:37
burtlewhere is sans?18:38
BUGabundoovershard: burtle: please redirect your effors to #ubuntu or #ubuntu-audio-help18:38
burtleoops, I forget that Im not in ther18:39
BUGabundohey bcurtiswx-mini you are also on FiOS? is it nice too ?18:39
bcurtiswx-miniBUGabundo: itw awesome really18:39
kklimondaBUGabundo: nice, there is #ubuntu-audio-help? I've sent overshard here cause he'd love to report a bug ;)18:39
bcurtiswx-miniits*18:39
BUGabundohello ogasawara18:40
BUGabundokklimonda: it won't help! just me there....18:40
BUGabundokklimonda: overshard all you can do for now it collect data for a bug, and have the audio team look at it *after* UDS18:41
BUGabundoovershard: $ ubuntu-bug alsa-base18:41
kklimondaBUGabundo: yeah, i've hoped that dtchen is alive ;)18:41
BUGabundoeehe18:41
BUGabundoknock on wood18:41
bcurtiswx-minidan needs a secretary18:41
Ampelbeinbug 379786 . best. ever.18:41
ubot4Launchpad bug 379786 in gcalctool "Calculator too good. " [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37978618:42
BUGabundodan needs a crwon18:42
BUGabundoAmpelbein: LOLOLOLOLOL18:42
BUGabundobcurtiswx-mini: so how does it handle? how much BW do you have?18:42
bcurtiswx-miniBUGabundo: 5 down 2 up (really 600KBPS down 256KBPS UP)18:43
BUGabundowhat do you guys think of this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/80753?18:44
ubot4Launchpad bug 80753 in synaptic "Synaptic should be able to switch from non-root to root mode without losing state" [Wishlist,Confirmed]18:44
BUGabundobeen debating it all afternoon on identica18:44
BUGabundoonly 5 down??? that's not very good18:44
BUGabundowait.... a 2 yo bug and wishlist on synaptic?18:45
kklimondaBUGabundo: it would be "easy" to implement now that we have a policykit18:45
bcurtiswx-mini5MBPS Down / 2MPBS UP isnt bad18:45
BUGabundosomeone get ready to mark it as wontfix18:45
BUGabundowe will have appcenter for KK18:45
kklimondaoh?18:45
BUGabundoyou mean mb/s not MiB/s18:45
BUGabundoI'm on 3G and have 3.6mb/s so (your) FiOS is that lame18:46
BUGabundokklimonda: let me get the BP18:46
bcurtiswx-minilol18:46
bcurtiswx-minii dont have your money18:46
BUGabundohttps://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/software-library18:46
BUGabundohttps://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-karmic-app-center18:47
BUGabundobcurtiswx-mini: I don't pay it!18:47
kklimondahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppCenter - is it it?18:47
BUGabundokklimonda: maybe all 318:47
bcurtiswx-minilol18:47
BUGabundoso bcurtiswx-mini am I expected to think that FiOS _can_ be expensive?19:22
BUGabundoI have no idea what kind of internet connetions the big USoA provides19:22
bcurtiswx-minianything with verizon is expensive BUGabundo19:22
BUGabundoI read last year that a lot of users still use narrow band (<56k)19:23
bcurtiswx-minithat because nobody can afford anything higher because their jobs don't pay them enough19:23
BUGabundohow much does that cost you ?19:23
BUGabundoI know that hggdh has FiOS but with a much higher BW than yours19:24
bcurtiswx-mini47.9919:27
bcurtiswx-minia month19:27
bcurtiswx-mini5down 2 up19:27
kklimondaI'm paying $35 for 10/119:29
bcurtiswx-miniwhere at?19:30
kklimondaa middle of nowhere known as Poland ;)19:30
bcurtiswx-minihaha, maybe ill come live in poland19:30
hggdhbcurtiswx-mini, my fios goes for about $150 (HDTV, internet, and home phone)19:32
bcurtiswx-minimines just internet19:32
bcurtiswx-miniim renting right now in my life19:32
bcurtiswx-minigraduate student19:32
BUGabundoour current best offer is Vodafone with ADSL 24/1 uncap + VOIP + 3G (with 100MiBs per month) for 20€19:32
bcurtiswx-miniand in american dollars that is?19:33
BUGabundolazy dude19:33
hggdhabout $3519:33
BUGabundo28US$19:33
BUGabundohttp://www.google.pt/search?q=20+euros+to+dollar&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a19:33
bcurtiswx-minihaha, i didn't have firefox open19:33
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franczena_Hello22:36
franczena_Is it possible to downgrade to Intrepid kernel?22:37
franczena_from Jaunty22:37
BUGabundofranc... humm went way22:44
BUGabundobut for the record: downgrades are not supported22:44
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