* BUGabundo thinks about abandoning kmail. every dev is either a sleep or busy with other stuff, to help me just check source | 00:16 | |
mrooney | BUGabundo: thunderbird doesn't cut it for you? | 00:18 |
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BUGabundo | nope | 00:18 |
BUGabundo | I love kmail its my fab mail client | 00:18 |
BUGabundo | but kde4 is to unstable | 00:18 |
bcurtiswx | <cough> gnome </cough> | 00:22 |
yuriy | BUGabundo: keep in mind you are on alpha packages of a beta | 00:23 |
BUGabundo | I use gnome too bcurtiswx | 00:23 |
BUGabundo | and a bunch of kde apps | 00:23 |
bcurtiswx | evolution? | 00:23 |
BUGabundo | if anything fails with that integrantion ill file bugs | 00:23 |
BUGabundo | evo is a great PIM | 00:23 |
BUGabundo | but poor email client | 00:23 |
bcurtiswx | haha | 00:23 |
BUGabundo | kmail is really good | 00:23 |
BUGabundo | believe me | 00:23 |
bcurtiswx | what makes one better than the other? | 00:23 |
bcurtiswx | it gives me my mail.. and send my mail out | 00:24 |
bcurtiswx | what else am i supposed to want? | 00:24 |
BUGabundo | ok, mine currently doesn't allow me to send mail out for some folder, some +1 on evo LOL | 00:25 |
BUGabundo | bcurtiswx: it's the experience I guess | 00:25 |
bcurtiswx | can't disagree i guess | 00:26 |
kwall | moin | 06:18 |
kwall | Is there a package against which Ubuntu web site bugs can be filed? See, for example, bug 377667. | 06:20 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 377667 in ubuntu "Ubuntu sites need multiple registrations" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/377667 | 06:20 |
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pperera | can anyone point me in the right direction for troubleshooting system speaker 'beeps' | 06:40 |
kwall | pperera: what's the trouble, exactly? | 06:41 |
pperera | was just doing some coding on my laptop and for some reason on a periodic basis the speakers sounding out 3 tones | 06:43 |
pperera | trying to find some troubleshooting documentation that might describe what they mean | 06:43 |
kwall | battery going dead? | 06:43 |
pperera | currently on AC | 06:44 |
pperera | and battery is 100% | 06:44 |
kwall | ionic bombardment is my stock explanation for non-deterministic behavior ;) | 06:45 |
kwall | Is the periodicity regular? | 06:45 |
pperera | yea ~ 25sec | 06:47 |
pperera | from the end of the 3rd tone to the start of the 1st in the next period | 06:48 |
kwall | Is the pcspkr module loaded and if so does it stop if you unload it? | 06:55 |
pperera | no unloading it doesnt help | 07:00 |
kwall | Suck. Nothing useful in the system log, I presume? | 07:00 |
pperera | nothing that i can determine | 07:04 |
jmarsden | pperera: Some systems beep when they are overheating... did your CPU fan just fail?? | 07:05 |
YoBoY | hi | 07:09 |
kwall | moin YoBoY | 07:09 |
pperera | no fan is still spinning | 07:09 |
kwall | pperera: (SWAG) maybe bug 279187? | 07:11 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 279187 in usplash "regression: usplash causes system to beep aloud" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279187 | 07:11 |
kwall | I'm just poking through Launchpad to see if other folks have reported similar probs | 07:11 |
pperera | yea same | 07:12 |
jmarsden | pperera: You could also try booting from a LiveCD and see if it still beeps... might determine if this is a software config issue or something lower level doing the beeping? | 07:14 |
YoBoY | it's caused by the nvidia driver? | 07:14 |
kwall | I'm sticking with my original diagnosis. Ionic bombardment. | 07:17 |
YoBoY | kwall: have you found the ubuntu website project on LP ? | 07:18 |
kwall | YoBoY: not yet | 07:19 |
YoBoY | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website | 07:19 |
YoBoY | perhaps... | 07:19 |
kwall | Wow, I'm blind. | 07:19 |
YoBoY | sure :) | 07:19 |
kwall | YoBoY: thanks | 07:27 |
YoBoY | you're welcome :) | 07:27 |
kwall | Just a metric buttload of bugs in LP. | 07:28 |
pperera | weird the beeping stopped | 07:44 |
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askand | Can someone "read" backtraces and understand what happens here? http://pastebin.com/m372f5108 | 10:22 |
kklimonda | askand: can you reproduce it? | 10:26 |
kklimonda | well, you probably can if you are running it under gdb | 10:27 |
askand | kklimonda: yep | 10:27 |
askand | kklimonda: well, it happens "randomly" so it is not really reproduce I guess | 10:27 |
kklimonda | heh.. | 10:28 |
kklimonda | askand: what version? | 10:30 |
askand | kklimonda: 1.61-0ubuntu0~jaunty0 e.g the one from transmission PPA | 10:31 |
kklimonda | askand: also before you run it gdb set it: | 10:31 |
kklimonda | handle SIGPIPE nostop noprint nopass | 10:31 |
kklimonda | transmission ppa? | 10:31 |
kklimonda | do you have a link? | 10:32 |
askand | kklimonda: ok before I type "run"? | 10:32 |
kklimonda | yes | 10:32 |
askand | kklimonda: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/transmissionbt/ubuntu <ubuntu_release_name> main | 10:33 |
askand | kklimonda: I downloaded deluge in the meantime but I will try handle SIGPIPE nostop noprint nopass later | 10:33 |
kklimonda | askand: Also, Could you use transmission from this ppa: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kklimonda/+archive/ppa ? | 10:36 |
kklimonda | askand: I'm working on merge of 1.61 to KK so testing it would be great. | 10:36 |
askand | kklimonda: ok I will use that instead | 10:37 |
askand | kklimonda: aptitude segfaults for me, that isn't very nice | 10:43 |
kklimonda | askand: well, it isn't :) | 10:44 |
askand | kklimonda: apt-get aswell ' | 10:44 |
askand | hm | 10:44 |
kklimonda | askand: after you added my ppa? nice :) | 10:45 |
askand | kklimonda: yes, some kind of ubuntuvirus ;) I solved it by removing pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin so I will install transmission from your ppa now | 10:46 |
askand | kklimonda: its working fine so far, will have it running for a while to see if it's still there when I'm back | 10:51 |
kklimonda | askand: If you have a crash send me an email (kklimonda(at)syntaxhighlighted.com) or catch me here. | 10:51 |
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askand1 | kklimonda: After installing transmission from your PPA it didn't crash (I think) but it did freeze and became unresponsivie. I had to kill it. After I added your PPA, I can not install transmission-dbg | 13:24 |
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kklimonda | askand1: When did it freeze? I guess I'll have to add -dbg package, it wasn't created by debian maintainer.. | 13:29 |
askand1 | kklimonda: while I was away, I'm not sure when | 13:29 |
kklimonda | Oh, so it froze by itself without your interaction? Weird.. | 13:30 |
askand1 | kklimonda: Yes, but I think it was checking a big file (10gb) when it happened | 13:34 |
askand1 | checking it as in it had downloaded some of it and checked how much it had downloaded | 13:34 |
kklimonda | askand1: heh, It doesn't sound like it was my fault.. I'll prepare -dbg package later. | 13:36 |
askand1 | kklimonda: no don't think so, the version I used earlier from the transmission PPA would have crashed if it was open for so long and that has not happened | 13:37 |
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kklimonda | askand1: I've sent an updated package to PPA, It's building right now. | 14:45 |
kklimonda | askand1: There is new package - transmission-gtk-dbg which has all debug symbols ;) | 14:46 |
BUGabundo | hey kklimonda askand1 | 14:48 |
kklimonda | hey | 14:48 |
kklimonda | oh, ppa will support dbgsym automatic build "soon" ;) | 14:52 |
BUGabundo | YAY | 14:54 |
askand1 | hey thanks kklimonda will try it | 15:20 |
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william | hello buygs | 18:12 |
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BUGabundo | hello will | 18:12 |
kklimonda | is dtchen around? | 18:31 |
BUGabundo | kklimonda: nope | 18:32 |
BUGabundo | hasn't been "in" for 3 days | 18:32 |
BUGabundo | if you see him let me know | 18:32 |
BUGabundo | no audio around here | 18:32 |
kklimonda | BUGabundo: He went to UDS? :) | 18:32 |
BUGabundo | can't even get help upstream | 18:32 |
BUGabundo | yep | 18:32 |
overshard | I have a curious bug with alsa sound that I can reproduce. My USB dac/amp stopped working and now will only work when i sudo alsa force-reload and then play sound while super usered... noting works as normal user. | 18:35 |
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burtle | my sound only works with browsing and with vlc? | 18:37 |
burtle | where is sans? | 18:38 |
BUGabundo | overshard: burtle: please redirect your effors to #ubuntu or #ubuntu-audio-help | 18:38 |
burtle | oops, I forget that Im not in ther | 18:39 |
BUGabundo | hey bcurtiswx-mini you are also on FiOS? is it nice too ? | 18:39 |
bcurtiswx-mini | BUGabundo: itw awesome really | 18:39 |
kklimonda | BUGabundo: nice, there is #ubuntu-audio-help? I've sent overshard here cause he'd love to report a bug ;) | 18:39 |
bcurtiswx-mini | its* | 18:39 |
BUGabundo | hello ogasawara | 18:40 |
BUGabundo | kklimonda: it won't help! just me there.... | 18:40 |
BUGabundo | kklimonda: overshard all you can do for now it collect data for a bug, and have the audio team look at it *after* UDS | 18:41 |
BUGabundo | overshard: $ ubuntu-bug alsa-base | 18:41 |
kklimonda | BUGabundo: yeah, i've hoped that dtchen is alive ;) | 18:41 |
BUGabundo | eehe | 18:41 |
BUGabundo | knock on wood | 18:41 |
bcurtiswx-mini | dan needs a secretary | 18:41 |
Ampelbein | bug 379786 . best. ever. | 18:41 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 379786 in gcalctool "Calculator too good. " [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379786 | 18:42 |
BUGabundo | dan needs a crwon | 18:42 |
BUGabundo | Ampelbein: LOLOLOLOLOL | 18:42 |
BUGabundo | bcurtiswx-mini: so how does it handle? how much BW do you have? | 18:42 |
bcurtiswx-mini | BUGabundo: 5 down 2 up (really 600KBPS down 256KBPS UP) | 18:43 |
BUGabundo | what do you guys think of this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/80753? | 18:44 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 80753 in synaptic "Synaptic should be able to switch from non-root to root mode without losing state" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 18:44 |
BUGabundo | been debating it all afternoon on identica | 18:44 |
BUGabundo | only 5 down??? that's not very good | 18:44 |
BUGabundo | wait.... a 2 yo bug and wishlist on synaptic? | 18:45 |
kklimonda | BUGabundo: it would be "easy" to implement now that we have a policykit | 18:45 |
bcurtiswx-mini | 5MBPS Down / 2MPBS UP isnt bad | 18:45 |
BUGabundo | someone get ready to mark it as wontfix | 18:45 |
BUGabundo | we will have appcenter for KK | 18:45 |
kklimonda | oh? | 18:45 |
BUGabundo | you mean mb/s not MiB/s | 18:45 |
BUGabundo | I'm on 3G and have 3.6mb/s so (your) FiOS is that lame | 18:46 |
BUGabundo | kklimonda: let me get the BP | 18:46 |
bcurtiswx-mini | lol | 18:46 |
bcurtiswx-mini | i dont have your money | 18:46 |
BUGabundo | https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/software-library | 18:46 |
BUGabundo | https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-karmic-app-center | 18:47 |
BUGabundo | bcurtiswx-mini: I don't pay it! | 18:47 |
kklimonda | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppCenter - is it it? | 18:47 |
BUGabundo | kklimonda: maybe all 3 | 18:47 |
bcurtiswx-mini | lol | 18:47 |
BUGabundo | so bcurtiswx-mini am I expected to think that FiOS _can_ be expensive? | 19:22 |
BUGabundo | I have no idea what kind of internet connetions the big USoA provides | 19:22 |
bcurtiswx-mini | anything with verizon is expensive BUGabundo | 19:22 |
BUGabundo | I read last year that a lot of users still use narrow band (<56k) | 19:23 |
bcurtiswx-mini | that because nobody can afford anything higher because their jobs don't pay them enough | 19:23 |
BUGabundo | how much does that cost you ? | 19:23 |
BUGabundo | I know that hggdh has FiOS but with a much higher BW than yours | 19:24 |
bcurtiswx-mini | 47.99 | 19:27 |
bcurtiswx-mini | a month | 19:27 |
bcurtiswx-mini | 5down 2 up | 19:27 |
kklimonda | I'm paying $35 for 10/1 | 19:29 |
bcurtiswx-mini | where at? | 19:30 |
kklimonda | a middle of nowhere known as Poland ;) | 19:30 |
bcurtiswx-mini | haha, maybe ill come live in poland | 19:30 |
hggdh | bcurtiswx-mini, my fios goes for about $150 (HDTV, internet, and home phone) | 19:32 |
bcurtiswx-mini | mines just internet | 19:32 |
bcurtiswx-mini | im renting right now in my life | 19:32 |
bcurtiswx-mini | graduate student | 19:32 |
BUGabundo | our current best offer is Vodafone with ADSL 24/1 uncap + VOIP + 3G (with 100MiBs per month) for 20€ | 19:32 |
bcurtiswx-mini | and in american dollars that is? | 19:33 |
BUGabundo | lazy dude | 19:33 |
hggdh | about $35 | 19:33 |
BUGabundo | 28US$ | 19:33 |
BUGabundo | http://www.google.pt/search?q=20+euros+to+dollar&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a | 19:33 |
bcurtiswx-mini | haha, i didn't have firefox open | 19:33 |
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franczena_ | Hello | 22:36 |
franczena_ | Is it possible to downgrade to Intrepid kernel? | 22:37 |
franczena_ | from Jaunty | 22:37 |
BUGabundo | franc... humm went way | 22:44 |
BUGabundo | but for the record: downgrades are not supported | 22:44 |
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