| uvirtbot | New bug: #379574 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10 [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.0.list] failed to install/upgrade: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379574 | 00:36 |
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| fbc-mx | Is there a command to tell the server to search for the closest mirror and use it? | 02:35 |
| jmarsden | fbc-mx: Not really; the Debian packages which do that have not yet been fully/correctly ported to Ubuntu, as far as I know. | 02:39 |
| fbc-mx | jmarsden, thanks.. well, I guess it's not mission critical.. just a luxury feature really. | 02:44 |
| jmarsden | fbc-mx: Yes. netselect is one of the Debian packages, if you want to keep an eye on it... maybe one of these days I'll get inspired to have a look at porting it :) | 02:50 |
| fbc-mx | jmarsden, yes, I've used it before on my debian servers. I've just upgrade from etch to lenny and it was very instumental in helping me find a fast mirror. | 02:53 |
| twb | IME all the good ISPs have their own mirrors anyway :P | 02:54 |
| jmarsden | twb: Verizon FIOS is pretty good, but I doubt they have a Ubuntu mirror... might be fun to ask them though :) | 03:09 |
| twb | Why wouldn't they? | 03:13 |
| jmarsden | All they know about and support is Windows. | 03:14 |
| twb | Then they are not a good ISP, obviously. | 03:14 |
| jmarsden | I don't need them to know about Ubuntu, just reliable fast connectivity at a price I can afford... | 03:15 |
| twb | I bet you don't even expect an ISP to provide a usenet node! | 03:16 |
| jmarsden | No, I just expect a connection to the Internet, which is what the I stands for :) If I want email I find an email provider, if I want Usenet I find a provider of that... (or of course I provide those services myself, if I so choose)... | 03:17 |
| twb | Then they would be an Internet Connection Provider :P | 03:17 |
| jmarsden | Sure, works for me. Especially if it lowers the price compared to what an ISP would charge for the same connection :) | 03:18 |
| jmarsden | I admit it is convenient when your connectivity provider provides DNS servers you can use to resolve names with, but even that is not 100% necessary. | 03:19 |
| twb | And doesn't, for example, use a transparent caching proxy for HTTP. | 03:20 |
| twb | And not having to pretend to be using Windows when you call their tech support people. | 03:20 |
| twb | And actually having the connection be up more often than down, and not massively oversubscribed... | 03:21 |
| twb | Sure, I'll pay a 20% markup for such stuff. | 03:22 |
| axisys | how do I make sure only radius auth works and not allow local passwd auth .. here is my /etc/pam.d/sshd http://pastebin.com/f17b84ac7 | 03:32 |
| fbc-mx | jmarsden, BTW do you know if PPPOECONF creates another interface? If so, would it be like a new on eth1 or would it create a virtual one like eth0:1? | 03:43 |
| jmarsden | fbc-mx: I don't know... I'd guess it creates a ppp0 interface?? | 03:44 |
| fbc-mx | jmarsden, great! thanks.. | 03:45 |
| Rafael_ | when i open the command line thru putty i see "You have new mail. | 04:00 |
| Rafael_ | " how can i check this? | 04:00 |
| Shinu | 04:06 | |
| Shinu | or | 04:06 |
| Shinu | nano /var/mail/yourloginname | 04:06 |
| fbc-mx | I have the sound card of my ubuntu server connected to my stereo amp. Is there an PHP app that I could load that would allow my wife to search/queue up songs? | 04:36 |
| fbc-mx | Like a PHP jukebox program or something? | 04:37 |
| p_quarles | ampache, I think, would fit what you're after | 04:38 |
| fbc-mx | p_quarles, awesome thanks.. I look at but could not find where it had a LOCALPLAY option. I figured it was streaming only, but now after careful examination, I see that it does have a local play option.. thanks again. | 04:44 |
| twb | axisys: generally, you should not have your own auth/session/whatever entries AND include the common-foo files. Do one or the other. | 04:44 |
| fbc-mx | p_quarles, my ebox/ubuntu jaunty server rocks! I've never been able to do so much home automation, ever. I think pretty soon, I'm gonna start looking for a program to turn it into an answering machine for my phone line. Now if only I could find a way to connect my USB-B2K Skype adapter and run a remote skype service and control it from my pc. | 04:47 |
| twb | Why Skype and not a free implementation (like Asterisk) of an open protocol (SIP)? | 04:48 |
| fbc-mx | p_quarles, but I don't think there is anyway to run skype as a daemon. You might need a full gnome GUI setup for that. | 04:48 |
| twb | fbc-mx: you could use Xorg's vfb backend, so that skype thinks there's a display, but there isn't. | 04:49 |
| fbc-mx | twb, Because skype is what people really know.. I guess I could use asterisk, but that would mean I'd have to pay for a number somewhere. The skype would be a free pc2pc call. | 04:50 |
| fbc-mx | twb, vfb?? cool.. I gotta look into that... let me google it. I love ubuntu!! | 04:50 |
| p_quarles | you could also just use ssh X11 forwarding, no? | 04:51 |
| fbc-mx | p_quarles, that would be over my head. I'd have to find a guide or howto for that.. I'm good with the server services stuff, like bind,apache,samba, but X11 fluency has always eluded me. | 04:53 |
| fbc-mx | p_quarles, from the reading about that I've just been doing , I don't need to tunnel it through ssh because it will be strictly a local lan based usage. So encryption is not really necessary. | 04:56 |
| fbc-mx | BRB | 04:56 |
| twb | p_quarles: assuming you were running X somewhere else, sure. | 04:56 |
| twb | p_quarles: I thought he wanted a headless system | 04:56 |
| p_quarles | twb: you don't need an X server for X forwarding, though; just the libs | 05:02 |
| p_quarles | twb: well, not a server on the remote machine, anyway; just on the machine with the actual display | 05:02 |
| twb | p_quarles: you need an X server *somewhere* | 05:07 |
| twb | Not that it matters; he's gone | 05:07 |
| p_quarles | twb: ah, re-reading, I see what you mean; I missed the part about the answering machine | 05:07 |
| p_quarles | I thought he wanted to run skype remotely as an attachable client, a la irssi | 05:08 |
| unewbie | is there a web management tool for squid proxy? | 05:25 |
| Mal3ko | wth..ufw cant block ip.. | 05:30 |
| Mal3ko | sudo ufw deny from 60.51.117.96 | 05:31 |
| Mal3ko | but i could logon the server after reload the rules | 05:31 |
| Mal3ko | could still* | 05:31 |
| Mal3ko | what's wrong | 05:32 |
| LHC | hey | 05:47 |
| Mal3ko | ? | 05:47 |
| LHC | anyone know how to host different mysql databases for different users on a server | 05:47 |
| LHC | question time haha | 05:47 |
| LHC | http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-hosting-with-pureftpd-mysql-on-ubuntu-8.10 | 05:48 |
| LHC | but mines on a dedicate dhaah | 05:48 |
| LHC | oops thats wrong sry | 05:48 |
| axisys | twb: thanks a lot.. that was it | 05:53 |
| axisys | Mal3ko: i think u probably need to pick a protocol | 05:55 |
| axisys | Mal3ko: no i am wrong | 05:56 |
| Mal3ko | hmm | 05:56 |
| Mal3ko | To Action From | 05:57 |
| Mal3ko | Anywhere DENY 60.51.117.96 | 05:57 |
| axisys | Mal3ko: same here .. did not work for me .. even with proto tcp | 06:00 |
| Mal3ko | ahh..i think ive found the answer | 06:01 |
| axisys | Mal3ko: reload ? | 06:02 |
| Mal3ko | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Uncomplicated_Firewall_ufw | 06:02 |
| Mal3ko | read from the line 'So if you started with default deny and added in port 80 for a public server :' | 06:02 |
| Mal3ko | You need to edit /etc/ufw/before.rules and add a section "Block IP" after "Drop INVALID packets" : | 06:03 |
| axisys | Mal3ko: ah ha.. unless u specify the port number | 06:05 |
| axisys | Mal3ko: nawp.. i am wrong again.. | 06:06 |
| Mal3ko | what does this mean.. | 06:07 |
| Mal3ko | "If you simply add the deny rule the allow would have been above it and been applied instead of the deny " | 06:07 |
| axisys | i see you have to update the ufw* tables with are placed before INPUT table | 06:08 |
| axisys | so bottom like need to comply with iptables orders .. make sense to me | 06:09 |
| axisys | s/like/line/ | 06:10 |
| Mal3ko | iptable orders? | 06:11 |
| axisys | Mal3ko: i meant iptables -L .. still learning | 06:13 |
| Mal3ko | where is iptable rules stored in? | 06:13 |
| genii | See manpages for iptables-save and iptables-restore | 06:15 |
| twb | iptables-save rocks | 06:29 |
| twb | Even just for READING rules -- it beats -vnL by far. | 06:29 |
| Mal3ko | howso | 06:31 |
| twb | Mal3ko: the output density, and the syntax matches what you actually type, rather than being an isomorphic dialect. | 06:32 |
| twb | The main thing you lose is packet counts per rule. | 06:33 |
| twb | Oh, and you don't need to remember to check eack table type separately. | 06:33 |
| twb | (e.g. -t mangle) | 06:33 |
| SineDeviance | hi all | 06:46 |
| SineDeviance | currently i am running a WAMP server. i want to switch to a LAMP server | 06:46 |
| SineDeviance | with windows i use a package called Bitnami WAMPstack | 06:46 |
| SineDeviance | essentially, it's a one-click WAMP server installer/configurator | 06:46 |
| SineDeviance | if i installed ubuntu server would it be ready to go right out of the box or would there be a good amount of configuring involved? | 06:47 |
| jmarsden | It depends what you want to do with the server. You can easily get the stack included at initial installation time, and it runs "out of the box". | 06:48 |
| jmarsden | Bear in mind there will be no "one click", since Ubuntu server comes with no GUI -- it is command line driven. | 06:49 |
| SineDeviance | jmarsden, i'm going to be running wordpress and eyeOS. eyeOS only requires php iirc | 06:49 |
| SineDeviance | jmarsden, right but i can install a windowmanager right? | 06:49 |
| unewbie | i need to copy some part of pdf file which is passworded, anybody know how? | 06:49 |
| jmarsden | SineDeviance: Sounds very doable to me. You can add a GUI, but then you don't really have Ubuntu Server any more... | 06:50 |
| unewbie | as i remember i need to convert to some 'ps' | 06:50 |
| SineDeviance | jmarsden, yeah but if i was running blackbox it would still be leaner than, say, ubuntu-desktop | 06:50 |
| SineDeviance | i'm mainly doing it for the security anyways | 06:50 |
| SineDeviance | i'm not too trusting in windowsxp's security ability | 06:51 |
| jmarsden | It's your call. GUI questions are not generally handled in #ubuntu-server. You've been running a *server* on Win XP? Yes, Ubuntu Server will generally speaking be more secure, assuming equivalent care and attention from the system admin. | 06:52 |
| jmarsden | Ubuntu Server is not just without "a window manager", BTW. It is without an X server at all... | 06:53 |
| SineDeviance | jmarsden, right. i'm running a server on winxp pro sp2. everything was fine at first but my router is crap so now i have to run my server in the DMZ. which basically means no firewall | 06:53 |
| SineDeviance | you can surely see my predicament ;) | 06:53 |
| jmarsden | Not a good thing to do. By all means try Ubuntu server. It works well. But if you add X and a GUI to it... well, you're in a sort of half way house between Server and Desktop, so you'd better know what you are doing... | 06:55 |
| SineDeviance | okay | 06:55 |
| SineDeviance | hmm, maybe for now i'll stick with windows and run a software firewall like comodo. i'm really not familiar with ubuntu-server so i dont want to go rushing into this blind | 06:56 |
| jmarsden | You could run your LAMP stack on Ubuntu Desktop, too. The Server Guide is at https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/ if you want to start learning about Ubuntu Server. | 06:57 |
| SineDeviance | jmarsden, that's a thought but it's quite an old system. it has 512 meg of ram and a 1500mhz athlonxp. ubuntu desktop has serious performance issues on this thing... winxp is actually much faster (i know, crazy innit?) | 06:58 |
| jmarsden | The RAM may be your limiting factor there... adding another 512MB for say $30 would probably help significantly. Or consider Xubuntu for a lower footprint Ubuntu with a GUI. | 06:59 |
| SineDeviance | jmarsden, well see this is pc133 ram. it's almost impossible to fine | 07:00 |
| SineDeviance | find* | 07:00 |
| SineDeviance | but yeah | 07:00 |
| SineDeviance | i guess i could try xubuntu | 07:00 |
| jmarsden | OK. BTW, I see several PC133 RAm modules on newegg... see http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010170147%201052107967%201052407863&name=PC%20133 | 07:01 |
| SineDeviance | jmarsden, holy crap | 07:01 |
| jmarsden | That's just one of many online stores... one I use myself... | 07:01 |
| SineDeviance | hmm i looked on newegg last year and they didnt have crap, i thought pc ram was dead | 07:02 |
| jmarsden | It is, pretty much, but you can still find it. | 07:02 |
| SineDeviance | yeah maybe i'll upgrade this system a bit | 07:02 |
| SineDeviance | jmarsden, thanks | 07:12 |
| jmarsden | No problem. | 07:12 |
| WayneK | I'm trying to find out what the default groups are for the first user created during installation on Hardy Server (I used usermod without -a - d'oh!) : I found this link but I'm not sure if this applies to Server also: http://ccollins.wordpress.com/2007/07/02/restore-default-ubuntu-groups/ | 07:24 |
| pspsampsp | mysql wont start without root or on boot , how can i fix this? | 07:43 |
| pspsampsp | mysql wont start without root or on boot , how can i fix this? | 07:46 |
| LHC | hey | 14:26 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #369351 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30 hangs during installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/369351 | 14:45 |
| LHC | anyone know how to limit bandwidth of a user in ubuntu server | 14:57 |
| twb | That is non-trivial, I think. | 15:01 |
| twb | Though if you work out how, I'd be interested to read an article on the implementation. | 15:02 |
| LHC | yeah it seems very handy | 15:03 |
| twb | Actually what I really want is monthly network quotas on a per-host basis (identified by MAC). | 15:04 |
| twb | So that I can essentially sub-let my monthly download cap to flatmates; currently there's no easy way to tell WHICH asshole left bittorrent running overnight and blew away the cap. | 15:05 |
| twb | One of the guys at work tells me it can be done, I just haven't bothered yet. | 15:06 |
| giovani | twb: sure it can be done -- most bandwidth tracking apps use IPs though | 15:08 |
| twb | Easier to spoof IPs than MACs, though. | 15:09 |
| twb | Oh, and I want to do this on a 16MHz MIPS system :-) | 15:09 |
| giovani | that's false | 15:09 |
| ScottK | twb: IP spoofing is only somewhat doable in real life if you control both IPs. | 15:10 |
| giovani | I doubt he's even talking about "spoofing" | 15:10 |
| twb | Well, I use the term `spoofing' loosely | 15:10 |
| giovani | he's talking about changing it | 15:10 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 15:10 |
| ScottK | Yeah. That's easy enough. | 15:10 |
| giovani | twb: if you can't trust them enough to rely on these metrics, then you're in far more trouble | 15:10 |
| ScottK | Changing MAC isn't hard either. | 15:11 |
| twb | You'd manually set your own IP to be the IP of someone else's laptop, when the other laptop isn't connected. | 15:11 |
| giovani | twb: it sounds like your problem is not bandwidth tracking, but trust | 15:11 |
| giovani | there's no bandwidth-tracking system that can ensure they aren't doing all sorts of weird things to get around it | 15:11 |
| giovani | so, there has to be some level of established trust | 15:12 |
| twb | Yeah, that's what I've already found :-( | 15:12 |
| giovani | right ... so no need to look for a piece of software | 15:12 |
| giovani | that's not what's needed | 15:12 |
| twb | The implied goal was to make it more hassle than it was worth to circumvent it | 15:12 |
| giovani | unless you can lock up the switch, and employ 802.1x | 15:12 |
| giovani | that's your only bet for end-to-end security | 15:12 |
| twb | Actually I suppose it won't be a problem when I switch to ADSL2, since even the throttled speed is fast enough for my needs, which are basically ssh and imaps. | 15:15 |
| infekteddeath | anyone familiar with ispconfig 3 | 15:48 |
| mdlueck | I just installed my first Ubuntu 9.04 server edition. What is suppose to replace dselect? | 17:02 |
| giovani | mdlueck: uhm ... apt? | 17:03 |
| mdlueck | I guess I expected as much. Then I will pull down dselect with apt in that case. | 17:03 |
| mdlueck | Thanks! | 17:03 |
| giovani | mdlueck: what are you attempting to do exactly? | 17:04 |
| mdlueck | Use what I am used to... been using dselect since the release before Debian Sarge... forget its name. | 17:04 |
| giovani | apt "replaced" dselect years ago | 17:05 |
| mdlueck | Is there anything wrong with adding dselect back to server 9.04? | 17:05 |
| mdlueck | apt is completely command line, I can not browse through the packages. | 17:06 |
| giovani | I'm unclear on why you think it's "gone" from ubuntu 9.04 | 17:06 |
| giovani | it's right there in the repository | 17:06 |
| mdlueck | Gone meaning not installed by default | 17:06 |
| giovani | heh | 17:06 |
| giovani | it's an application almost nobody uses | 17:07 |
| giovani | I don't want its 2MB bloating my install | 17:07 |
| giovani | if you do -- install it | 17:07 |
| mdlueck | "except me" | 17:07 |
| giovani | so then you can install it ... | 17:07 |
| giovani | that's why it's there | 17:07 |
| giovani | default installs are not supposed to provide the packages only some people want | 17:07 |
| mdlueck | I was asking because I thought there might be a new wiz-bang UI to package management | 17:07 |
| giovani | there is ... it's called apt & co. | 17:08 |
| mdlueck | co = dselect? | 17:08 |
| giovani | & co = aptitude, etc | 17:08 |
| mdlueck | aptitude I thought was the "GUI dselect" that the GUI versions of Ubuntu have, correct? | 17:09 |
| giovani | no | 17:09 |
| giovani | aptitude is terminal-based | 17:09 |
| mdlueck | Oh, I did not know that. | 17:09 |
| giovani | ncurses based to be exact | 17:09 |
| giovani | you're probably thinking of synaptic | 17:09 |
| giovani | which is a gnome/gtk GUI | 17:09 |
| mdlueck | So there is something besides working with apt-get from the command line | 17:09 |
| giovani | yes | 17:10 |
| mdlueck | That's the anem1 | 17:10 |
| mdlueck | "name!" | 17:10 |
| mdlueck | OK, I will check out what aptitude looks like then... | 17:10 |
| giovani | http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/aptitude-screenshot.png | 17:11 |
| giovani | it looks like that | 17:11 |
| giovani | or this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aptitude.png | 17:11 |
| giovani | aptitude is far from new though ... so I'm a little surprised that you're a hardcore dselect user and don't know of it | 17:11 |
| mdlueck | Looks like what I was after... THNKA | 17:12 |
| mdlueck | THANKS! | 17:12 |
| mdlueck | For servers we still have Debian Sarge in production... migrating to 9.04 this weekend | 17:13 |
| giovani | have fund with that | 17:14 |
| giovani | big move | 17:15 |
| mdlueck | Aptitude... "What the...?!?!" | 17:20 |
| giovani | mdlueck: ? | 17:20 |
| mdlueck | Says 2 packages are security updates, like 10 should be updated, when I press "g" then it seems to want to install 1928 packages! | 17:21 |
| mdlueck | Things like apache which I do not want on this server... | 17:22 |
| giovani | you probably selected some meta pkg | 17:22 |
| mdlueck | "Will take some getting used to I guess". I have exited and gotten back in, same thing. Must have saved the meta pkg. Anyway to track down what I asked for? | 17:23 |
| Gargoyle | Afternoon all | 17:23 |
| mdlueck | Handy - Action \ Forget... slick! | 17:30 |
| Gargoyle | Can I get older PHP releases from anywhere? | 17:43 |
| mdlueck | Anyone here using djbdns? Trying to install on 9.04, relies on daemontools, and that is fussing as it can not find /etc/inittab | 18:06 |
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| mdlueck | Ooops, seems to be already a known issue --> [Bug 179251] | 18:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 179251 in daemontools-installer "daemontools package fails to handle nonexistent /etc/inittab" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179251 | 18:08 |
| ssm | mdlueck, if you mark one of the extra packages with "deinstall" after you hit "g", it should also deinstall dependencies, which would be the meta package, that may help you find it | 18:11 |
| ssm | meh, had pagedup a bit, didn't see you got a solution :P | 18:12 |
| mdlueck | ssm, thanks for the suggestion! | 18:13 |
| ssm | mdlueck, just touch inittab, so "make setup check" can add to it. Then you'd need to add something for upstart | 18:13 |
| ssm | ls that an ubuntu daemontools package you're installing? | 18:13 |
| mdlueck | ssm, Great idea. I will try it, then reinstall those packages | 18:13 |
| ssm | I like djbdns, but it's kind of picky when it comes to the environment it's running in. | 18:14 |
| ssm | mdlueck: I see the "daemontools-run" package needs an inittab change, the "daemontools" package does not | 18:16 |
| mdlueck | ssm, seems to have worked, no more grumbling | 18:17 |
| mdlueck | Thanks! | 18:18 |
| ssm | mdlueck, you need http://pastebin.com/m777e9230 and a "mkdir /etc/service" | 18:22 |
| ssm | save the url as /etc/event.d/daemontools, and then you can do "start daemontools" | 18:23 |
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| mdlueck | All right, thanks for the addl pointers. | 18:25 |
| slestak | hey guys. i am trying my 1st kvm vmbuilder vm, and I have it booted, but sth is flukey with networking. I can ping my dom1 from dom0, but I cannot ping anything but localhost from dom1. | 20:04 |
| slestak | doth dom1 and dom0 have the same default gateway. I confogured this with bridging, so I have a br0 interface on dom0 | 20:05 |
| slestak | ok, reading the fin manual , i see icmp doesnt work through bridge | 20:07 |
| slestak | ok, more specific question, I cannot reach the outside lan from within vm. 1st activity I attempted was an adptitude update, and it cannto reach canonical. hence the ping attempts | 20:08 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #368491 in open-iscsi (main) "Cannot mount partition on iSCSI LUN" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368491 | 20:10 |
| fbc_ | How do I do this to pulseaudio from the command line? "enable network access to local sound device" | 20:45 |
| antonsetiady | # join | 20:54 |
| antonsetiady | hi... | 20:54 |
| antonsetiady | dddddddddddddddddasda | 20:55 |
| antonsetiady | halllo | 20:56 |
| antonsetiady | anybody online?? | 20:56 |
| fbc_ | ask what you need to know | 20:57 |
| fbc_ | has anyone installed mpd mpc pulseaudio on ubuntu server and got them to play nice? I can get any sound. Could someone point me in the right direction? | 21:11 |
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| mikegriffin | hiya, what is the name of the webmin like thing that ubuntu puts out? i wanna try it out today | 22:10 |
| ScottK | mikegriffin: ebox | 22:11 |
| mikegriffin | thanks ScottK | 22:11 |
| mikegriffin | played with it? | 22:11 |
| ScottK | Not. My favorite server gui is vim. | 22:11 |
| MianoSM | vim is a gui now? | 22:11 |
| ScottK | GUI enough for me on a server. | 22:11 |
| mikegriffin | agreed, but it is nice to let others manage email adds and such | 22:11 |
| ScottK | Sure. | 22:12 |
| MianoSM | Webmin works like a charm for me still, and having junior admins only accessing through usermin is great. ;) | 22:13 |
| giovani | heh | 22:13 |
| mikegriffin | *min kinda sucks as it tries to do too much, apache configuration through it is terrible | 22:15 |
| mikegriffin | same with mysql really | 22:15 |
| giovani | all of these interfaces suck | 22:16 |
| psylance` | giovani, agreed | 22:18 |
| fbc_ | anyone know how to test alsa sound from the command line? Line just make it go beep or something so that I know it's working and configured properly? | 22:24 |
| mikegriffin | mpg123? | 22:25 |
| giovani | fbc_: any audio player will work | 22:27 |
| fbc_ | giovani, ok, I loaded mpg123 and played an mp3. It said it was playing but couldn't hear a thing? How would I trouble shoot a problem with alsa audio? | 22:30 |
| mikegriffin | alsamixer? | 22:33 |
| mikegriffin | this is so not a server question.. try #ubuntu? | 22:34 |
| MianoSM | apache config through webmin is great, as long as you compile from source | 22:39 |
| mikegriffin | MianoSM: how do you add a RedirectPermanent without manually typing that in? :) | 22:46 |
| MianoSM | are you asking simply to ask, or do you really want to know how to do it through webmin? | 22:46 |
| mikegriffin | basically, anything you want to do in apache is going to be just modifying to conf manually through webmin in my experience | 22:46 |
| MianoSM | right | 22:47 |
| MianoSM | However with webmin, you can have a quick and easy way to access and administer your servers through a web browser in a pinch. It's a nice backup to have in my opinion, and has always worked with a very small foot print. | 22:47 |
| atomic__ | you can't see its hands though ;) | 22:53 |
| giovani | MianoSM: a backup to what exactly? | 23:12 |
| pisi_ | A ubuntu server started to play tricks after an upgrade. Outgoing connections (like telnet) pick the address of eth1:1 instead of eth1 so i get kicked out of IP-filtered services. | 23:13 |
| MianoSM | backup to needing :22 | 23:13 |
| giovani | the web server hosting webmin is going to be LESS reliable, and never available when SSH is not | 23:13 |
| pisi_ | Why does it happen and how can I prevent it/tweak it | 23:13 |
| MianoSM | Like when I'm at school? | 23:13 |
| giovani | pisi_: just check your default route | 23:13 |
| MianoSM | Or when I'm in a government building that states I can't plug in my usb drive to open putty on one of the windows machines? | 23:14 |
| giovani | hah | 23:14 |
| giovani | use your own computer | 23:14 |
| pisi_ | giovani: 0.0.0.0 X.X.X.X 0.0.0.0 UG 100 0 0 eth1 | 23:14 |
| MianoSM | .... | 23:15 |
| MianoSM | using your own computer is not always an option, thus the "backup" | 23:15 |
| pisi_ | just as it should be. I've had interface-swapping kind of problems before (which are annoying) but never so that IP addresses get mixed. | 23:15 |
| mikegriffin | giovani: it runs its own 'webserver', a perl script | 23:16 |
| pisi_ | giovani: a reboot for example fixed it for now, but I can't explain why it acted like it did for one reboot | 23:18 |
| giovani | mikegriffin: how is that a statement of reliability? | 23:21 |
| giovani | MianoSM: there are ways to deal with all of the limitations you discussed | 23:21 |
| MianoSM | Sure, to each their own for sure - that is the essence of the movement I think ;) | 23:22 |
| giovani | a) putty doesn't need to be saved/installed onto the machine you want to run it on -- firefox/ie can run it directly out of the temp folder | 23:22 |
| giovani | MianoSM: sure ... and to educate those who misunderstand things :) | 23:22 |
| MianoSM | You can not bring flash devices into a secure area | 23:22 |
| giovani | MianoSM: I wasn't recommending that you do so | 23:23 |
| giovani | if you read my statement | 23:23 |
| MianoSM | that's execution of a remote app in their eyes however | 23:23 |
| giovani | then you should not be accessing your server from said computer | 23:23 |
| giovani | I'm sure it's a violation of their policies based on this information | 23:23 |
| MianoSM | It is not. | 23:24 |
| giovani | I bet it is | 23:24 |
| MianoSM | Ok. | 23:24 |
| giovani | anyhow -- there are java/whatever ssh apps | 23:24 |
| giovani | that can be loaded in a web browser | 23:25 |
| MianoSM | So many different ways to do the same thing. :) | 23:25 |
| giovani | that's not the same thing as using webmin | 23:25 |
| MianoSM | ebox wasn't for me - I simply offered a different solution. | 23:25 |
| MianoSM | An argument to argue is not my inclination at the moment though. :( | 23:25 |
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