[00:00] <JontheEchidna> KDE bug 191771
[00:00] <nixternal> http://www.flickr.com/photos/nixternal/3557217557/ <- professional cyclist
[00:02] <jussi01> JontheEchidna: so any idea when you can make that hit the experimental ppa?
[00:03] <JontheEchidna> jussi01: in about 5 minutes, not counting building time
[00:03] <jussi01> JontheEchidna: you rock my world! thanks!
[00:07] <JontheEchidna> jussi01: uploaded at almost exactly 5 mins ;-)
[00:08] <jussi01> JontheEchidna: link me to the build queue?
[00:08] <jussi01> :D
[00:08] <JontheEchidna> jussi01: amd64?
[00:08] <jussi01> yeah
[00:09] <JontheEchidna> soyuz has to much on it a bit first
[00:09] <JontheEchidna> munch
[00:09] <jussi01> aye
[00:09]  * jussi01 waits
[00:10] <JontheEchidna> lunchpad goes om nom nom
[00:11] <jussi01> you know I love it that everyone seems to be picking up the "finnishisms" :D
[00:17] <JontheEchidna> dizzamn, it's taking forever
[00:21] <JontheEchidna> fina-frikin-lly
[00:22] <JontheEchidna> jussi01: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+build/1041564
[00:22] <jussi01> JontheEchidna: once again, thank you :)
[00:23] <JontheEchidna> you're welcome3
[00:23] <JontheEchidna> -3
[00:57] <vishalrao> kde 4.3 you can easily set the kickoff menu icon, that reminds me, why doesn't kubuntu use a branding icon? like the circle of friends as its menu icon?
[04:55] <vorian> JontheEchidna: HAHAHAHA!!!
[04:55] <vorian> dude, I just say my picture in the wallpaper selections
[05:11] <vorian> anyone else getting "There are exceptions caught in the script 'Librivox.org'. Please refer to the log." in amarok?
[09:16] <Mamarok> vishalrao: that would look odd
[09:17] <vishalrao> Mamarok: looks good to me though :D not a big deal since it will be easy to do in 4.3
[09:18] <Mamarok> vishalrao: I hope not, it wouldn't fit into the KDE experience, needs svg
[09:18] <vishalrao> i just took the kubuntu bling logo and cut the circle part in inkscape and voila
[09:18] <vishalrao> that logo is sv
[09:18] <vishalrao> g
[09:19] <Mamarok> vishalrao: maybe in a seperate theme, but not in Oxygen, god beware!
[09:19] <vishalrao> See the "bling" logo here -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork
[09:19] <vishalrao> looks good to me with air theme
[09:20] <vishalrao> plus its a branding/marketing thing... spread the kubuntu love!
[09:50] <Mamarok> yao_ziyuan: do *not* post lines from here into #kubuntu
[09:50] <Mamarok> even less if you don't understand a joke, and it was a joke!
[09:50] <yao_ziyuan> hehe
[09:50] <yao_ziyuan> .
[09:51] <Mamarok> yao_ziyuan: that is not funny, guess why there are diffrent channels
[09:51] <yao_ziyuan> a truth channel and a joke channel
[09:51] <Mamarok> yao_ziyuan: behave!
[09:51] <yao_ziyuan> .
[09:51] <Mamarok> and contribute instead of bashing
[09:53] <Mamarok> vishalrao: then it belongs definitely in a different them, Oxygen branding is a no go IMHO
[09:54] <Mamarok> vishalrao: ask Nuno what he thinks of that
[09:55] <vishalrao> Mamarok: does nuno visit IRC? which channel? btw i wasnt saying change the oxygen theme itself, i was saying kubuntu specific mod for the menu itself... but it isnt a big deal... easy to change for me :)
[09:55] <Mamarok> vishalrao: there is oxygen, and plasma, and other kde channels
[09:56] <vishalrao> ok thanks
[09:56] <Mamarok> vishalrao: making a Kubuntu theme is ok for me, but certainly not changeing Oxygen
[13:19] <rgreening> greetz from barcelona
[13:20] <rgreening> Quintasan: I havn't uploaded your packages yet. had no time before going to spain. Im here now, so tonight I should be able to upload.
[13:21] <Quintasan> rgreening: okay, good to know :)
[13:21] <Quintasan> how's in barcelona?
[13:21] <rgreening> warm :)
[13:22]  * Hobbsee waves to rgreening
[13:28] <rgreening> o/ Hobbsee... going for food :)
[13:28] <Hobbsee> :)
[14:16]  * ryanakca waves from Barcelona
[14:17] <Mamarok> ryanakca: my regards to stgraber and WaVeR :)
[14:23] <ryanakca> Mamarok: they here too?
[14:23] <Mamarok> ryanakca: yep, both my buddies from Switzerland :)
[14:24] <Mamarok> ryanakca: don't know if they have arrived yet, though, their flight was at 13 from Zürich I think
[14:28] <ryanakca> Ah, so they should be arriving eventually, 15:26 here
[14:28] <Mamarok> yeah! Gwenview doesn't crash anymore!
[14:55] <jussi01> Mamarok: thank JontheEchidna for that... I asked him to do it last night, which he kindly did
[14:55] <jussi01> :D
[14:56] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: thanks a lot!
[14:57] <Mamarok> the only thing missing for me is kdebase-dev now...
[16:13] <JontheEchidna> Mamarok: what did you need kdebase-dev for? There weren't any development headers in there, just a few private symlink .so's
[16:13] <Mamarok> hm, I can't compile anymore, and it asks for kdebase-dev
[16:14] <JontheEchidna> hmm, what are you trying to compile?
[16:15] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: I try to get back the stuff that was in the kde-devel metapackage
[16:15] <Mamarok> as this has disappeared
[16:15] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: local installation of Amarok
[16:16] <JontheEchidna> oh, so maybe the metapackage is outdated now and won't install because kdebase-dev is missing
[16:16] <Mamarok> Qt version is ok, all libraries and dependencies are there as I didn't touch the folders, but can't compile anymore
[16:17] <Mamarok> yeah, that metapackage has gone unfortunately
[16:35] <Riddell> hola
[16:38] <Mamarok> hola Riddell, que tal?
[16:42] <Riddell> quite tired and hungry
[16:42] <Riddell> and in need of a shower
[16:43] <Mamarok> Riddell: regards to all I know :)
[16:43] <Mamarok> have the Swiss arrived yet? stgraber and WaVeR?
[16:45] <Riddell> don't think I've seen them
[16:46] <Mamarok> well, they left at like 13:00 from Zürich, maybe still on the road
[16:47] <Riddell> or maybe they're just not where I happened to wander through, this place is huge
[16:48] <Mamarok> you will certainly see them these days :)
[16:53] <ScottK> I've seen stgraber.  He's here.
[16:55] <Mamarok> yeah, just seen him online :)
[17:01] <jarle> latest experimental amarok crashes with SIGSEGV when kde is setup to use the phonon-xine-backend, works fine with the gstream-backend (however then I get no sound), not sure if this is an amarok bug or a kubuntu package bug?
[17:02] <JontheEchidna> I don't suppose anybody would be around to sponsor bug 379997?
[17:03] <jarle> backtrace of amarok crash: http://pastebin.ca/1433089
[17:03] <Mamarok> jarle: definitely not an Amarok bug, xine-backend works fine
[17:03] <Mamarok> jarle: please report it on Launchpad, check for duplicates though
[17:04] <JontheEchidna> looks like a xine bug to me
[17:04] <JontheEchidna> oh, looking at the wrong thread
[17:04] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[17:08] <JontheEchidna> looks sorta like kde bug 191026
[17:19] <schmidtm> do you plan to provide packages for googledata akonadi resource (see svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/pim/googledata)
[17:22]  * ScottK grumbles about portability issues in Amarok (FTBFS on armel)
[17:30] <Riddell> schmidtm: is there a release?
[17:31] <Riddell> ryanakca, rgreening, ScottK: anyone hungry?
[17:31] <Riddell> yuriy: ?
[17:32] <ScottK> Riddell: I little.  we had a late lunch.
[17:32] <ScottK> I think rgreening went out for a smoke.
[17:35] <schmidtm> Riddell: afaik contact and calendar syncing works
[17:35] <Tm_T> schmidtm: "works" is not enough I afraid
[17:36] <Riddell> well it could be enough
[17:36] <Riddell> but generally there's a reason why there's no release
[17:36] <Tm_T> aye
[17:36] <schmidtm> at http://blip.tv/file/1972974/ is a sample video using the resource
[17:38] <Tm_T> schmidtm: I'm randomly testing that but I'm not convinced yet
[17:41] <ryanakca> Riddell: Just ate, sorry
[17:41] <schmidtm> Tm_T: ok, but anyway when it turns stable it would be nice to see such a feature for karmic
[17:41] <Tm_T> schmidtm: sure
[17:41] <Tm_T> schmidtm: we need to fill build dependencies too though
[17:42] <schmidtm> Tm_T: thats obvious, the basic dependency is libgcal V 0.9
[17:43] <Tm_T> schmidtm: aye, which is not in Ubuntu repositories yet IIRC
[17:43] <ScottK> Riddell: Now I'm hungry.
[17:44] <ryanakca> Riddell: I can tag along though
[17:44] <Tm_T> schmidtm: ah, forgot, this is one of those projects which doesn't have public svn apparently
[17:44] <Riddell> ScottK: know anywhere to eat?
[17:45] <Riddell> or alternatively supermarkets to get food and nice places to eat it
[17:45] <schmidtm> Tm_T: i ve just looked my karmic says it has libgcal 0.9.0-1 in the repos
[17:45] <ryanakca> Riddell: There's a few restaurant 5-10 minutes away
[17:46] <Tm_T> schmidtm: hmm, really? mind to find out which packages depends on it currently?
[17:46] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.
[17:46] <Riddell> ScottK: groovy, I'll come down in 5 mins
[17:46] <ScottK> Riddell: I need to go stow my laptop.
[17:47] <ScottK> See you then.
[17:49] <Mamarok> Riddell: far too early for supper in Barcelona now, the Spanish only just had lunch  :)
[17:49] <Mamarok> clocks go differently there
[17:49] <Riddell> I know, we walked into a restaurant at about 8 last night and they said they wouldn't be ready for another hour or more
[17:50] <Riddell> but I didn't have any lunch so I'm hungry now!
[17:50] <Mamarok> late lunch then :)
[17:51] <Quintasan> hiho
[17:51] <lex79> hi :) needs ack here please...
[17:52] <lex79> launchpad bug 380008
[17:53] <Riddell> ryanakca: where are you and what do you look like?
[17:54] <ryanakca> Riddell: I'm in my room at the moment, you heading down now? I have blue shorts and a yellow t-shirt
[17:54] <Riddell> I am
[17:54] <Riddell> I'll see you in the foyer
[17:54] <ryanakca> OK, see you in a minute
[17:57] <Mamarok> have fun!
[18:00] <schmidtm> Tm_T: sudo apt-rdepends -r libgcal0 does not show any dependencies
[18:01] <Tm_T> schmidtm: then I wonder why it's there packaged
[18:01] <Tm_T> not that I complain (:)
[18:04] <neversfelde> I thought that this akonadi google ressource is part of KDE 4.3, because it is mentioned in the release announcement for beta1
[18:05] <Tm_T> neversfelde: part of extragear until it's tested enough I believe
[18:05] <schmidtm> Tm_T: yes that s strange. so could u try building a package?
[18:06] <Tm_T> schmidtm: no, sorry, not package, but I can give it a new testround some day soon
[18:07] <schmidtm> Tm_T: ok that would be nice. can u then report your experiences
[18:09] <Tm_T> schmidtm: sure
[18:25] <Quintasan> linux srsly lacks mobile phone tools
[18:29] <apachelogger> Quintasan: mobile phone vendors srsly lack linux support :P
[18:29] <apachelogger> anyone wanna get involved with kde-www?
[18:36] <Tm_T> apachelogger: not me
[18:39] <Mamarok> apachelogger: not a question of will, but time
[18:39] <apachelogger> always the same :P
[18:40] <apachelogger> bug 374248 is fun
[18:41] <Mamarok> which makes hangman useless!
[18:41] <apachelogger> depends on whether it will still work if $system language is $desired language
[18:42] <apachelogger> ok
[18:42] <apachelogger> clearly that is SRUworthy
[18:43] <apachelogger> apparently our KDE 4 stuff doesn't carry all_languages, which lists all KDE supported languages or something
[18:43] <apachelogger> but the KDE 3 stuff does
[18:43] <apachelogger> yeah
[18:43] <apachelogger> funs
[18:47] <Quintasan> ARGH
[18:47] <Quintasan> guys from kdebluetooth srlsy should go back to work
[18:47] <apachelogger> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdelibs/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/not-installed
[18:47] <apachelogger> Mamarok: ̂
[18:48] <apachelogger> at times I am ashamed of myself for not catching such issues
[18:48] <apachelogger> though I am most of the time ashamed of myself for other reasons anyway :P
[18:48] <Mamarok> apachelogger: you shouldn't
[18:49] <Mamarok> never a reason to be ashamed, just stand to the errors, much easier, less hassle for your soul
[18:49] <neversfelde> this is really up to date: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/choqok/ubuntu
[18:49] <apachelogger> that is something to be ashamed of
[18:49] <neversfelde> how can I update this?
[18:49] <apachelogger> I know precisely what that file does
[18:49] <apachelogger> I know precisely that both kdeedu and kdegames heavily use it
[18:50] <apachelogger> and still I didn't notice that it should be installed
[18:50] <apachelogger> neversfelde: branch it, sync it with latest packaging, use debcommit and then push it back to launchpad
[18:51] <apachelogger> also check that control carries the appropriate VCS lines so I can blame people when a branch is out-of-date :P
[18:51] <Mamarok> apachelogger: but we will tell the users who is reposonsible for that... :P
[18:52] <Mamarok> and everybody else also, of course
[18:53] <apachelogger> hm
[18:54] <apachelogger> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[18:54] <apachelogger> actually
[18:54] <apachelogger> it makes sense after all
[18:54] <apachelogger> KDE 3 apps and KDE 4 apps need to be co-installable
[18:54] <apachelogger> having the file in both kdelibs-data and kdelibs5-data would prevent this
[18:55] <apachelogger> not too trivial to fix
[18:59] <seele> what is the uds irc channel?
[19:07] <neversfelde> apachelogger: is it ok?
[19:07] <neversfelde> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/choqok/ubuntu
[19:10] <apachelogger> I suppose so
[19:11] <apachelogger> bug 371565 is also fun
[19:11] <Tm_T> haha
[19:11] <apachelogger> meh
[19:11] <apachelogger> Nightrose: suggestions?
[19:11] <apachelogger> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeedu/+bug/371565
[19:11]  * neversfelde was afraid to smash the whole launchpad while using bzr
[19:11] <Tm_T> ubottu: way to go, son
[19:12]  * apachelogger throws empty water bottles at ubottu
[19:12] <Nightrose> apachelogger: i'll ask fregl who is sitting next to me :D
[19:12] <Nightrose> sec
[19:13] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I think I know the problem
[19:13] <apachelogger> I am not sure how we should handle the python import errors in packaging through
[19:13] <apachelogger> maybe split off the scripts and make that -scripts package depend the appropriate python and kross fun?
[19:15] <Nightrose> fregln says that doens
[19:15] <Nightrose> t sound too bad
[19:15] <Nightrose> bah and i can't type
[19:16] <apachelogger> ewwww
[19:16] <apachelogger> tip-of-the-day
[19:16]  * apachelogger bitches about how that always get in the way of him using apps
[19:16] <apachelogger> kubotu: np
[19:16] <kubotu> apachelogger is listening to "Go, Tell It on the Mountain" by Bob Marley; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more
[19:25] <apachelogger> hm
[19:25] <apachelogger> Nightrose, fregl: maybe I don't know what the problem is
[19:25] <apachelogger> the mentioned python* stuff is installed but still it fails to load
[19:26] <apachelogger> maybe they ain't working with python2.6? :P
[19:27] <fregl> apachelogger: when building from source you need python bindings, kross comes with kdelibs afaik
[19:29] <apachelogger> fregl: why would it need the python bindings?
[19:29] <apachelogger> just kross itself should be enough, shouldn't it?
[19:30] <apachelogger> cmake ain't complaining about anything
[19:46] <apachelogger> fregl, Nightrose: I really think it's python2.6's fault
[19:47] <apachelogger> only systems using it seem to be affected
[19:48] <apachelogger> or maybe it's just ubuntu :D
[19:49] <fregl_> apachelogger: kross internally finds python and has the stuff as run time dep. I don't know how the magic works internally
[19:49] <apachelogger> me neither
[19:49] <apachelogger> it sure throws weird errors
[19:49] <apachelogger> /tmp/kde-me/runningThemes/l42NYT/liquid_weather.py:3656: SyntaxWarning: import * only allowed at module level
[19:49] <apachelogger>   def checkDependencies(widget):
[19:50] <fregl_> I never looked much at kross since I didn't write that stuff
[19:50] <apachelogger> *nod*
[19:50] <apachelogger> Nightrose: do you still have a 8.10 system around?
[19:52] <apachelogger> darn it
[19:54] <apachelogger> fregl: well, I am pretty sure it's some python2.6 issue, if try a script that only imports Kross and ssl it will still break
[19:54] <apachelogger> no rdieter around when you need him :P
[19:58] <Nightrose> apachelogger: nope i don't sorry
[20:05] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: I recommend you try building kde4libs with python 2.5 and try to reproduce bug 371565
[20:05] <apachelogger> if I am right it should be working just fine with 2.5
[20:07] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: MIR for bug 66362 still pending?
[20:08] <apachelogger> Nightrose: btw, you might want to bitch a bit about the upstreamed bugs of https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeedu
[20:09] <apachelogger> so we get them fixed for 4.3 :D
[20:37] <jarle> I con not find any link at launchpad that will let me actually submit at bug-report, I can only browse bugs?
[20:41] <neversfelde> jarle: use the Button Report Bug, you have to log in first
[20:41] <neversfelde> but #launchpad my be a better place for this question
[20:42] <jarle> neversfelde: I am logged in but can not see the report bug button?
[20:43] <neversfelde> well, there is one, I used it several times ;)
[20:43] <neversfelde> the red one on the right hand
[20:43] <neversfelde> https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[20:49] <jarle> neversfelde: found it, it was not available when browsing bugs..
[20:49] <neversfelde> :)
[21:08] <Riddell> anyone know what shtylman looks like?
[21:09] <Tm_T> Riddell: two eyes above the nose, other than that, I do not know
[21:38] <Riddell> well aparantly he's checked in but he doesn't seem to have made an appearance on IRC or in person
[22:13] <jussi01> Riddell: found him yet?
[22:13] <jussi01> Riddell: Im guessing this is him? http://shtylman.com/pictures.php?p=&albumpath=pictures&dir=Riviera%20Maya%202006
[23:28] <NCommander> Hobbsee, please don't give maco any ideas :-P