[00:00] KDE bug 191771 [00:00] KDE bug 191771 in general "gwenview crashes when loading images" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191771 [00:00] http://www.flickr.com/photos/nixternal/3557217557/ <- professional cyclist [00:02] JontheEchidna: so any idea when you can make that hit the experimental ppa? [00:03] jussi01: in about 5 minutes, not counting building time [00:03] JontheEchidna: you rock my world! thanks! [00:07] jussi01: uploaded at almost exactly 5 mins ;-) [00:08] JontheEchidna: link me to the build queue? [00:08] :D [00:08] jussi01: amd64? [00:08] yeah [00:09] soyuz has to much on it a bit first [00:09] munch [00:09] aye [00:09] * jussi01 waits [00:10] lunchpad goes om nom nom [00:11] you know I love it that everyone seems to be picking up the "finnishisms" :D [00:17] dizzamn, it's taking forever [00:21] fina-frikin-lly [00:22] jussi01: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+build/1041564 [00:22] JontheEchidna: once again, thank you :) [00:23] you're welcome3 [00:23] -3 === vishalrao_away is now known as vishalrao [00:57] kde 4.3 you can easily set the kickoff menu icon, that reminds me, why doesn't kubuntu use a branding icon? like the circle of friends as its menu icon? [04:55] JontheEchidna: HAHAHAHA!!! [04:55] dude, I just say my picture in the wallpaper selections [05:11] anyone else getting "There are exceptions caught in the script 'Librivox.org'. Please refer to the log." in amarok? === iivv__ is now known as iivv_ [09:16] vishalrao: that would look odd [09:17] Mamarok: looks good to me though :D not a big deal since it will be easy to do in 4.3 [09:18] vishalrao: I hope not, it wouldn't fit into the KDE experience, needs svg [09:18] i just took the kubuntu bling logo and cut the circle part in inkscape and voila [09:18] that logo is sv [09:18] g [09:19] vishalrao: maybe in a seperate theme, but not in Oxygen, god beware! [09:19] See the "bling" logo here -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork [09:19] looks good to me with air theme [09:20] plus its a branding/marketing thing... spread the kubuntu love! === nielsslot_ is now known as nielsslot [09:50] yao_ziyuan: do *not* post lines from here into #kubuntu [09:50] even less if you don't understand a joke, and it was a joke! [09:50] hehe [09:50] . [09:51] yao_ziyuan: that is not funny, guess why there are diffrent channels [09:51] a truth channel and a joke channel [09:51] yao_ziyuan: behave! [09:51] . [09:51] and contribute instead of bashing [09:53] vishalrao: then it belongs definitely in a different them, Oxygen branding is a no go IMHO [09:54] vishalrao: ask Nuno what he thinks of that [09:55] Mamarok: does nuno visit IRC? which channel? btw i wasnt saying change the oxygen theme itself, i was saying kubuntu specific mod for the menu itself... but it isnt a big deal... easy to change for me :) [09:55] vishalrao: there is oxygen, and plasma, and other kde channels [09:56] ok thanks [09:56] vishalrao: making a Kubuntu theme is ok for me, but certainly not changeing Oxygen [13:19] greetz from barcelona [13:20] Quintasan: I havn't uploaded your packages yet. had no time before going to spain. Im here now, so tonight I should be able to upload. [13:21] rgreening: okay, good to know :) [13:21] how's in barcelona? [13:21] warm :) [13:22] * Hobbsee waves to rgreening [13:28] o/ Hobbsee... going for food :) [13:28] :) [14:16] * ryanakca waves from Barcelona [14:17] ryanakca: my regards to stgraber and WaVeR :) [14:23] Mamarok: they here too? [14:23] ryanakca: yep, both my buddies from Switzerland :) [14:24] ryanakca: don't know if they have arrived yet, though, their flight was at 13 from Zürich I think [14:28] Ah, so they should be arriving eventually, 15:26 here [14:28] yeah! Gwenview doesn't crash anymore! [14:55] Mamarok: thank JontheEchidna for that... I asked him to do it last night, which he kindly did [14:55] :D [14:56] JontheEchidna: thanks a lot! [14:57] the only thing missing for me is kdebase-dev now... === yuriy_ is now known as yuriy === blueyed_ is now known as blueyed [16:13] Mamarok: what did you need kdebase-dev for? There weren't any development headers in there, just a few private symlink .so's [16:13] hm, I can't compile anymore, and it asks for kdebase-dev [16:14] hmm, what are you trying to compile? [16:15] JontheEchidna: I try to get back the stuff that was in the kde-devel metapackage [16:15] as this has disappeared [16:15] JontheEchidna: local installation of Amarok [16:16] oh, so maybe the metapackage is outdated now and won't install because kdebase-dev is missing [16:16] Qt version is ok, all libraries and dependencies are there as I didn't touch the folders, but can't compile anymore [16:17] yeah, that metapackage has gone unfortunately [16:35] hola [16:38] hola Riddell, que tal? [16:42] quite tired and hungry [16:42] and in need of a shower [16:43] Riddell: regards to all I know :) [16:43] have the Swiss arrived yet? stgraber and WaVeR? [16:45] don't think I've seen them [16:46] well, they left at like 13:00 from Zürich, maybe still on the road [16:47] or maybe they're just not where I happened to wander through, this place is huge [16:48] you will certainly see them these days :) [16:53] I've seen stgraber. He's here. [16:55] yeah, just seen him online :) [17:01] latest experimental amarok crashes with SIGSEGV when kde is setup to use the phonon-xine-backend, works fine with the gstream-backend (however then I get no sound), not sure if this is an amarok bug or a kubuntu package bug? [17:02] I don't suppose anybody would be around to sponsor bug 379997? [17:02] Launchpad bug 379997 in meta-kde "meta-kde: new changes in Debian require merging" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379997 [17:03] backtrace of amarok crash: http://pastebin.ca/1433089 [17:03] jarle: definitely not an Amarok bug, xine-backend works fine [17:03] jarle: please report it on Launchpad, check for duplicates though [17:04] looks like a xine bug to me [17:04] oh, looking at the wrong thread [17:04] hmm [17:08] looks sorta like kde bug 191026 [17:08] KDE bug 191026 in general "Amarok crashes after bad sequence header" [Crash,Resolved: upstream] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191026 [17:19] do you plan to provide packages for googledata akonadi resource (see svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/pim/googledata) [17:22] * ScottK grumbles about portability issues in Amarok (FTBFS on armel) [17:30] schmidtm: is there a release? [17:31] ryanakca, rgreening, ScottK: anyone hungry? [17:31] yuriy: ? [17:32] Riddell: I little. we had a late lunch. [17:32] I think rgreening went out for a smoke. [17:35] Riddell: afaik contact and calendar syncing works [17:35] schmidtm: "works" is not enough I afraid [17:36] well it could be enough [17:36] but generally there's a reason why there's no release [17:36] aye [17:36] at http://blip.tv/file/1972974/ is a sample video using the resource [17:38] schmidtm: I'm randomly testing that but I'm not convinced yet [17:41] Riddell: Just ate, sorry [17:41] Tm_T: ok, but anyway when it turns stable it would be nice to see such a feature for karmic [17:41] schmidtm: sure [17:41] schmidtm: we need to fill build dependencies too though [17:42] Tm_T: thats obvious, the basic dependency is libgcal V 0.9 [17:43] schmidtm: aye, which is not in Ubuntu repositories yet IIRC [17:43] Riddell: Now I'm hungry. [17:44] Riddell: I can tag along though [17:44] schmidtm: ah, forgot, this is one of those projects which doesn't have public svn apparently [17:44] ScottK: know anywhere to eat? [17:45] or alternatively supermarkets to get food and nice places to eat it [17:45] Tm_T: i ve just looked my karmic says it has libgcal 0.9.0-1 in the repos [17:45] Riddell: There's a few restaurant 5-10 minutes away [17:46] schmidtm: hmm, really? mind to find out which packages depends on it currently? [17:46] Riddell: Yes. [17:46] ScottK: groovy, I'll come down in 5 mins [17:46] Riddell: I need to go stow my laptop. [17:47] See you then. [17:49] Riddell: far too early for supper in Barcelona now, the Spanish only just had lunch :) [17:49] clocks go differently there [17:49] I know, we walked into a restaurant at about 8 last night and they said they wouldn't be ready for another hour or more [17:50] but I didn't have any lunch so I'm hungry now! [17:50] late lunch then :) === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [17:51] hiho [17:51] hi :) needs ack here please... [17:52] launchpad bug 380008 [17:52] Launchpad bug 380008 in ubuntu "Please sync luckybackup 0.3-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/380008 [17:53] ryanakca: where are you and what do you look like? [17:54] Riddell: I'm in my room at the moment, you heading down now? I have blue shorts and a yellow t-shirt [17:54] I am [17:54] I'll see you in the foyer [17:54] OK, see you in a minute [17:57] have fun! [18:00] Tm_T: sudo apt-rdepends -r libgcal0 does not show any dependencies [18:01] schmidtm: then I wonder why it's there packaged [18:01] not that I complain (:) [18:04] I thought that this akonadi google ressource is part of KDE 4.3, because it is mentioned in the release announcement for beta1 [18:05] neversfelde: part of extragear until it's tested enough I believe [18:05] Tm_T: yes that s strange. so could u try building a package? [18:06] schmidtm: no, sorry, not package, but I can give it a new testround some day soon [18:07] Tm_T: ok that would be nice. can u then report your experiences [18:09] schmidtm: sure [18:25] linux srsly lacks mobile phone tools [18:29] Quintasan: mobile phone vendors srsly lack linux support :P [18:29] anyone wanna get involved with kde-www? [18:36] apachelogger: not me [18:39] apachelogger: not a question of will, but time [18:39] always the same :P [18:40] bug 374248 is fun [18:40] Launchpad bug 374248 in kdeedu "Cannot change language in khangman if kdelibs-data is not installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374248 [18:41] which makes hangman useless! [18:41] depends on whether it will still work if $system language is $desired language [18:42] ok [18:42] clearly that is SRUworthy [18:43] apparently our KDE 4 stuff doesn't carry all_languages, which lists all KDE supported languages or something [18:43] but the KDE 3 stuff does [18:43] yeah [18:43] funs [18:47] ARGH [18:47] guys from kdebluetooth srlsy should go back to work [18:47] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdelibs/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/not-installed [18:47] Mamarok: ̂ [18:48] at times I am ashamed of myself for not catching such issues [18:48] though I am most of the time ashamed of myself for other reasons anyway :P [18:48] apachelogger: you shouldn't [18:49] never a reason to be ashamed, just stand to the errors, much easier, less hassle for your soul [18:49] this is really up to date: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/choqok/ubuntu [18:49] that is something to be ashamed of [18:49] how can I update this? [18:49] I know precisely what that file does [18:49] I know precisely that both kdeedu and kdegames heavily use it [18:50] and still I didn't notice that it should be installed [18:50] neversfelde: branch it, sync it with latest packaging, use debcommit and then push it back to launchpad [18:51] also check that control carries the appropriate VCS lines so I can blame people when a branch is out-of-date :P [18:51] apachelogger: but we will tell the users who is reposonsible for that... :P [18:52] and everybody else also, of course [18:53] hm [18:54] hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [18:54] actually [18:54] it makes sense after all [18:54] KDE 3 apps and KDE 4 apps need to be co-installable [18:54] having the file in both kdelibs-data and kdelibs5-data would prevent this [18:55] not too trivial to fix [18:59] what is the uds irc channel? [19:07] apachelogger: is it ok? [19:07] https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/choqok/ubuntu [19:10] I suppose so [19:11] bug 371565 is also fun [19:11] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/371565/+text) [19:11] haha [19:11] meh [19:11] Nightrose: suggestions? [19:11] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeedu/+bug/371565 [19:11] * neversfelde was afraid to smash the whole launchpad while using bzr [19:11] Error: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/371565/+text) [19:11] ubottu: way to go, son [19:11] Sorry, I don't know anything about way to go, son [19:12] * apachelogger throws empty water bottles at ubottu [19:12] apachelogger: i'll ask fregl who is sitting next to me :D [19:12] sec [19:13] Nightrose: I think I know the problem [19:13] I am not sure how we should handle the python import errors in packaging through [19:13] maybe split off the scripts and make that -scripts package depend the appropriate python and kross fun? [19:15] fregln says that doens [19:15] t sound too bad [19:15] bah and i can't type [19:16] ewwww [19:16] tip-of-the-day [19:16] * apachelogger bitches about how that always get in the way of him using apps === fregl_ is now known as fregl [19:16] kubotu: np [19:16] apachelogger is listening to "Go, Tell It on the Mountain" by Bob Marley; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more [19:25] hm [19:25] Nightrose, fregl: maybe I don't know what the problem is [19:25] the mentioned python* stuff is installed but still it fails to load [19:26] maybe they ain't working with python2.6? :P [19:27] apachelogger: when building from source you need python bindings, kross comes with kdelibs afaik [19:29] fregl: why would it need the python bindings? [19:29] just kross itself should be enough, shouldn't it? [19:30] cmake ain't complaining about anything [19:46] fregl, Nightrose: I really think it's python2.6's fault [19:47] only systems using it seem to be affected [19:48] or maybe it's just ubuntu :D [19:49] apachelogger: kross internally finds python and has the stuff as run time dep. I don't know how the magic works internally [19:49] me neither [19:49] it sure throws weird errors [19:49] /tmp/kde-me/runningThemes/l42NYT/liquid_weather.py:3656: SyntaxWarning: import * only allowed at module level [19:49] def checkDependencies(widget): [19:50] I never looked much at kross since I didn't write that stuff [19:50] *nod* [19:50] Nightrose: do you still have a 8.10 system around? [19:52] darn it [19:54] fregl: well, I am pretty sure it's some python2.6 issue, if try a script that only imports Kross and ssl it will still break [19:54] no rdieter around when you need him :P [19:58] apachelogger: nope i don't sorry [20:05] JontheEchidna: I recommend you try building kde4libs with python 2.5 and try to reproduce bug 371565 [20:05] Launchpad bug 371565 in kdeedu "parley scripts fail to load" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371565 [20:05] if I am right it should be working just fine with 2.5 [20:07] JontheEchidna: MIR for bug 66362 still pending? [20:07] Launchpad bug 66362 in kdeedu "Equation Solver not enabled in Kalzium" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66362 [20:08] Nightrose: btw, you might want to bitch a bit about the upstreamed bugs of https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeedu [20:09] so we get them fixed for 4.3 :D [20:37] I con not find any link at launchpad that will let me actually submit at bug-report, I can only browse bugs? [20:41] jarle: use the Button Report Bug, you have to log in first [20:41] but #launchpad my be a better place for this question [20:42] neversfelde: I am logged in but can not see the report bug button? [20:43] well, there is one, I used it several times ;) [20:43] the red one on the right hand [20:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ [20:49] neversfelde: found it, it was not available when browsing bugs.. [20:49] :) [21:08] anyone know what shtylman looks like? [21:09] Riddell: two eyes above the nose, other than that, I do not know [21:38] well aparantly he's checked in but he doesn't seem to have made an appearance on IRC or in person [22:13] Riddell: found him yet? [22:13] Riddell: Im guessing this is him? http://shtylman.com/pictures.php?p=&albumpath=pictures&dir=Riviera%20Maya%202006 [23:28] Hobbsee, please don't give maco any ideas :-P