[00:01] hmm, look nice and i'd like to try [00:01] just where to download it ? [00:02] I have just this opetions : [00:02] Which release do you want? [00:02] Kubuntu 9.04 - Featuring the cutting edge KDE 4 and maintained until 2010 Kubuntu 8.04 - Featuring the mature KDE 3 and maintained until October 2009 [00:02] I already have kubuntu 8.04 [00:02] http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/counter/click.php?id=21 [00:02] oops [00:03] go http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/ [00:03] then downlaod the x86 one [00:04] hey i am getting a grub ERROR 17 can anyone help me with this? [00:04] and when i fdisk my /dev/sda it doesn't show the partitions inside the extended partition === zero is now known as Guest41618 === system is now known as Guest41736 [00:14] Hi! [00:15] Hey! [00:15] hi [00:15] hi [00:16] how's the free irc world doing [00:17] Pretty good cheers [00:18] (not that i'm the entire free software world ;) ) === Guest32822 is now known as pastorrichard [00:24] Downloaded [00:24] now just to burn it and install [00:25] awesome! brb in 5 getting a drink ;) [00:28] bring for mr yoo some :p [00:28] me too * [00:28] lol [00:28] seen sea_master [00:28] !seen sea_master [00:28] I have no seen command [00:28] !brb [00:28] Sorry, I don't know anything about brb [00:28] !sea_master [00:28] Sorry, I don't know anything about sea_master [00:29] !technikk [00:29] Sorry, I don't know anything about technikk [00:33] is this KDE 3.5 ? kubuntu-9.04-kde3-desktop-i386.iso [00:35] Official Kubuntu support | Kubuntu 9.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.04-release | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Free 9.04 (KDE 4) CDs https://shipit.kubuntu.org | KDE 4.2.3 for 9.04 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.3 | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Do not install KDE 4.3 beta unless you are an experienced user, there still are packaging issues [00:37] Kde 3.5 [00:37] you can run kde 4 apps fine in kde 3 === diego is now known as Guest4184 [00:57] hi, im trying to run an old windows game, AoE2, and the panel keeps getting in the way for the game to get in fullscreen mode [00:57] any guestimates on when issues Torvalds mentioned with KDE will be improved? [00:57] That happened to me on l4d [00:58] Oh... I think it might be easier to find something for L4D Shadoze [00:58] Nah, i got it fixed in the end :) now runs perfect [00:58] how? [00:59] hey [00:59] Emulated a desktop thingy in wine as 800x600 then reverted back [00:59] seemed to work [00:59] anyhow theres a new wine relase perhaps your problems gone in that? [00:59] heh, gonna try that now... [01:00] nope... [01:00] =[ im not really sure [01:00] byt my panel no longer gets in the way [01:00] it did used too === Guest4184 is now known as diego [01:02] yeah... also with 1280x1024 emulated screen.. still in the way === diego is now known as Guest72857 === Guest72857 is now known as diego_ === Paraselene__ is now known as Paraselene_ [01:04] >.< [01:04] my resolution is 1024x768 ;) [01:05] well... for hl2 based games its also 1024x768 [01:05] but for Age of empires II... [01:06] LOL [01:06] now my screen is 800x600 because i killed an ingame aoe2 game... [01:06] is there another display configuration file like /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? [01:07] anyways... bye! [01:07] not sure sorry [01:09] Anyone knoq where the kcolouredit documentation is? [01:09] icant find it [01:09] Nevermind [01:10] must have misread ;) [01:10] what program does kde use to change the keyboard layout? [01:11] system settings will activate the needed prog [01:22] Does Kubuntu have an estimated time for copying a file? [01:24] you can run kde 4 apps fine in kde 3 [01:25] That;s right :) [01:25] i can't start installation, don't know fucking why of the distro what u gave to me, i just burned the disk and i went to the installation question [01:25] How do I get it to show the estimated time when copying a file like in previous versions? [01:25] hi guys, [01:25] then pushed install ... and i sow just the black screen [01:25] I gave you Kubuntu 9.04 3.5 remix === valerio is now known as Valeaustralia [01:26] are i sow sometimes this ? [01:26] ? [01:26] I know, just its strange [01:26] may i have some support please? [01:26] so it just gave you a black screen? [01:26] i'm a newbie [01:26] i klik on install and i got black screen [01:26] try booting it in safe graphics mdoe [01:26] yea, but keyboard was not blockd [01:26] :s [01:26] How vale? [01:27] ill try ... have hediche ;D [01:27] @ carolija, try booting it in safe graphicvs [01:27] well, i installed right now my printer...samsung clx-2160 [01:27] =-[ [01:27] Shadoze_: the printer work fine now i woul like to know i i can test the scanner [01:28] hi [01:28] i have ubuntu 9.04 64 bit [01:28] odakle si [01:29] zemun, you have PM [01:29] Vale im afraid i'm not sure, i dont have any of those tools :S [01:29] what is PM [01:30] I would google, kde4 testing scanner [01:30] well, via ubuntu how i can test the scanner? so how i can launch a scan [01:31] my hero! lol [01:32] Valeaustralia: there's a scanner tool... [01:33] xjjk_: where? please i told u it is my first time on linux [01:33] Valeaustralia: trying to look it up [01:34] Xsane? [01:34] Valeaustralia: no, there's a newer KDE4 one [01:34] it's not very well known [01:34] it's called scan4light or skan4light or something very similar [01:34] ign, could you give me that printscreen command again :( i dida fresh install and forgot to sae it to a file! :( [01:34] ok, i'll try [01:35] Valeaustralia: that's not the name since I'm not finding anything about it on Google, however... [01:35] Valeaustralia: there's nothing stopping you from using XSane of course, it'll also work [01:35] ok, i'll see, i make some test now, thansk for now [01:36] Valeaustralia: skanlite === aritz is now known as aritz_ === aritz_ is now known as aritz [01:45] ign0ramus: I GOT IT! My script works now. I'm on script 3 now. :) [01:46] may i have some help on vitual box 2.2? [01:46] Valeaustralia: don't ask whether you can ask... just ask [01:46] if someone can help you they will [01:46] ok, thanks, [01:47] i install that, but i don't know with when i click on the icon it doesn't run! [01:47] ign0ramus: I have my first script automating certain things like run update/upgrade, create a backup of installed apps from apt-get, check du and RAM. Got more I want to add, but I'm somewhat brain dead from all the times I bashed my head against the wall trying to figure out my syntax issues. [01:48] Valeaustralia: You have to install it again. Be sure to compile with the latest kernel. It's a pain, but that's what you have to do. [01:49] I installed by download the package and opened with gdebi is that ok? [01:49] Valeaustralia: I download and then install through CLI [01:50] CLI? [01:51] Valeaustralia: command line interface [01:51] ok, via terminal [01:51] mmmm... :( !! [01:51] not exactly, that's why cli is a better time :) [01:51] it's hard this linux!! [01:51] :P [01:52] Valeaustralia: Give it some time and it will grow on you. CLI will get any and every thing handled. [01:52] Vale, it may be hard at the beggining, but if you truely want to learn about linux and computers, it's really worth it! [01:53] Valeaustralia: I've been using Kubuntu since June 1, 2006. Never had a regret and using CLI was something I've been wanting to do. [01:53] Some linux software is a real pain to install tho lol [01:53] Valeaustralia: terminals are actually devices, usually with a serial port and really old, with just curses available [01:53] yeah, of course, u know everithing is started because again win make me lose 320 gig of datas! [01:53] what we usually call terminals now, is "terminal emulator" (and most of them actually use that name) [01:54] [01:54] phh: A terminal is a place at an airport. [01:54] lol [01:55] well, that's also true. [01:55] CoJaBo-Aztec: I travel every 2-3 months. Terminal to is my freedom waiting room at the airport. [01:55] well wich one is the string for install a package via console? === derrick__ is now known as D-Master [01:56] ...to ME is... [01:56] How do I get Kubuntu Jaunty to show the estimated time when copying a file? [01:56] Valeaustralia: Depends. dpkg -i for .deb files [01:57] CoJaBo-Aztec: Use verbose. cp -v FileHere FileThere [01:57] this is the file:"virtualbox-2.2_2.2.2-46594_Ubuntu_jaunty_amd64.deb" i have to open terminal, find the path and use that command right? [01:57] draik: When copying in GUI I mean (in CLI would also be useful too, but -v only shows the names) [01:58] CoJaBo-Aztec: It comes up automatically for me as (I) at the bottom of the screen. Check your notifications section in System Settings === Maska_ is now known as Maska [01:59] draik: It shows everything but estimated time === jeiworth_ is now known as jeiworth [01:59] Valeaustralia: Yes. You will want to do sudo dpkg -i virtualbox-2.2_2.2.2-46594_Ubuntu_jaunty_amd64.deb [01:59] i have done now, everithing is ok, but...when i click on that icon nothing happen, won't load [02:00] Valeaustralia: What icon? The .deb file? [02:00] no, the execution icon, the one for run the program [02:01] Valeaustralia: Run it through Konsole/Terminal. It will give you the error message there. [02:01] CoJaBo-Aztec: Sorry, don't know what else to tell you about it. [02:02] To all that know how to write bash scripts... What is the entry for opening a new window or tab in konsole/terminal? [02:03] phh: Thanks for the history lesson. Good to know the origins of things. [02:03] draik_: how i can do that? via terminal? how i can execute and application? [02:03] Valeaustralia: Yes, through Terminal. Just enter the app name. [02:05] so, virtualbox...it tell me that the virtualbox software is not actually installed, it is possible to install by typing sudo apt-get install virtualbox.ose.... bash:virtualbox:command not found [02:05] draik: Do you have a screenshot of what its supposed to look like? [02:07] Valeaustralia: Yes, you can install the one in the repos. [02:07] CoJaBo-Aztec: I'm using Ubuntu Server 9.04... not much of a GUI or a screenshot right now. [02:08] draik_:that is the error message that it tell me [02:08] Valeaustralia: whereis virtualbox [02:08] Type that into Terminal [02:09] draik: On kubuntu 9.04 there isnt an estimated time in the GUI, is there an option to show it or is it yet another feature that disapeared from previous versions?? [02:09] More than likely, it is in /usr/share/virtualbox [02:09] virtualbox: /usr/lib/virtualbox /usr/lib64/virtualbox /usr/share/virtualbox [02:10] CoJaBo-Aztec: Come to think of it, I don't think there is a timer. It's been a while since I've used the GUI and even more since I've had to copy things from the GUI. [02:10] Valeaustralia: Type this: /usr/share/virtualbox [02:11] ok, i'm in the directonry [02:11] O.o [02:11] Valeaustralia: That's not a directory, that's the path for the app [02:12] ah, sorry, just a sec [02:13] so, i have to type to the terminal... : /usr/share/virtualbox ? [02:13] Yes [02:14] hello everyone [02:14] it tell me that that path is a directory and that's it [02:14] anyone from florida [02:16] Valeaustralia: Hmmm... I thought that was the app. Then I don't know where it si. [02:16] is, even [02:17] hi, good nigth, i have a problem, I cant listen any sound, and i cant put play in any software [02:17] can anyone help with USBView? === desu is now known as ljrbat [02:19] have a new user group in so florida, to sign up just go to http://cslug.homelinux.org/wiki [02:20] hi, good nigth, i have a problem, I cant listen any sound, and I cant reproduce music in all software. My english is very poor [02:20] iivv_: Your question is slightly vague. [02:20] Betus: No need to repeat your question. If someone can help, they will. [02:21] draik: well, i have a usb hub i'm trying to troubleshoot, and i've been told that USBView would allow me to look at the controller on the device [02:22] and usbview seems to have a problem, it says i might not have usb compiled into my kernel [02:22] iivv_: If something is plugged into the hub, then it should read. Otherwise, it will just sit there, IIRC. Try adding something to the hub. [02:22] draik: thanks you, I trying to write in english, so I reformulate my question to you understand me [02:23] "cannot open file /proc/bus/usb/devices"... ok i'll try that [02:23] welll, by the way... thanks for all === ljrbat is now known as desu [02:23] Betus: No problem. Someone will answer you, good English or not, if they can help. [02:23] iivv_: sudo mount -tusbfs none /proc/bus/usb [02:23] and maybe run usbview as root [02:24] Hey there ign0ramus [02:24] draik, sup man. [02:24] draik, did you get your script working? [02:24] ign0ramus: Yes. [02:25] draik, can i see it? [02:25] ign0ramus: Only if you're ready to kick yourself for the lack of ONE 4-letter entry that I forgot at the end. [02:25] draik, esac? [02:25] Yup [02:25] hahaha oh no [02:26] I know, right? [02:26] draik, well let me see what the end result was anyway [02:26] Sure. One sec [02:26] draik, i was messing around with it myself for a while this morning === bob is now known as Guest31845 [02:26] iivv_: so ? [02:27] phh: thanks a lot-- USBView's actually showing some info now, although it still doesn't seem to detect this particular hub [02:27] ok [02:27] iivv_: it's maybe just braindead [02:28] would fdisk show if an inserted SD card is recognized by the system? [02:29] phh: perhaps, but i've got the hub's guts opened up, and the wiring within it is all done with enameled wires-- [02:29] ign0ramus: fdisk -l if run as root, it should [02:29] (maybe with error if there is no partition table on it) [02:29] wonder if somewhere the enamel rubbed off and shorted out. thanks for the help. . . [02:29] ign0ramus: I had such an odd laugh when I finished. I wasn't sure if it was from happiness from the end of my brain cell holocaust or if I had exhausted all other expressions (confusion, frustration, anger, rage, then depressed sadness from realizing the one missing entry). [02:29] phh, then my kernel is not reading it :( [02:29] draik, it was a head-scratcher for sure [02:29] ign0ramus: it's a integrated one ? [02:30] (meaning no usb adapter) [02:30] draik: There was a timer in previous versions of Kubuntu, any idea why it was removed? [02:30] phh, yup [02:31] ign0ramus: try a bit of google, these devices are supported, but you need to load the good module by yourself, if i remember correctly at least. [02:31] phh, it probably has to do with the 2.6.30rc6 kernel... I'll install a 'supported' one and try that first. thanks, though. [02:31] ign0ramus: http://pastbin.com/5a904adf [02:31] or find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ -name \*mmc\* and try loading every answer [02:32] Whoops [02:32] ign0ramus: http://pastebin.com/5a904adf [02:32] ign0ramus: you built it by yourself ? [02:32] phh, no, there's a ppa for it [02:33] draik, no idea why, but that page is giving me a blank screen in Firefox and Konqueror [02:33] I'm in a directory where there is install.sh, why it tell me that that file it doesn't exist? [02:33] draik, the corrected one, i mean... not working [02:33] Odd [02:33] Let me check the link [02:33] ign0ramus: then i'd guess it won't make any difference, but you can give it a try === nicolas_ is now known as Guest25682 [02:33] ign0ramus: http://pastebin.com/m5a904adf [02:34] Seems that I missed another character [02:34] phh, i'll look into it; it was working fine in Hardy [02:34] draik, got it. [02:34] :) [02:34] ign0ramus: if you still have hardy (livecd or installed), do lsmod and diff it [02:35] phh, good call [02:35] ign0ramus: I've expanded on a few things and cut back on cluter [02:35] draik: why don't you print the -/+ buffer/cache line ? [02:35] it's the most interesting one /o\ [02:35] draik, holy crap it works! :D [02:35] alright, i'm outta here [02:36] didn't even mean to sign in... rebooted and it restored my session. off for scotch! [02:36] draik - talk to you soon [02:36] phh: I've never used it outside of that method. [02:37] draik: you mean you never used that line of free, or that command ? [02:37] phh: I'm hoping to expand and add more options, but I'm at a dead end for what else to include. [02:37] I'm in a directory where there is install.sh, why it tell me that that file it doesn't exist? [02:37] phh: I've only used 'free -om' [02:37] draik: just drop the 'o' :) [02:38] it will give you one line more: [02:38] -/+ buffers/cache: 360 642 [02:38] phh: I know. [02:38] ok. [02:38] so why drop this line from the output ? [02:38] Just for you, buddy ;) [02:38] It has been added [02:39] Or removed, whichever works [02:39] and another thing, maybe it's wanted, but you won't show hidden files with the 3) command [02:39] (and i often see that biggest files are hidden... Hi wine !) [02:40] phh: Thanks. What do I do to include hidden files/folders? [02:40] draik: i don't know clean methods, what i usually do is ~/* ~/.??* [02:41] but then folders with only one letter after the dot won't be shown :/ [02:41] So why not just ~/.* [02:41] draik: because ~/.. matches it :-) [02:42] phh: :( Forgot about that. Thanks. [02:42] but i works, you'll just have a junk line [02:42] +t [02:42] I'll look into that. Thanks for the heads up on that. [02:42] (and some more IOs according to how many users) [02:47] draik: find ~ -maxdepth 1 -not -name $(basename ~) -exec echo du -sm \{\} \; |sort -nr [02:47] this seems to work [02:47] but i'm not really sure [02:48] hum, drop the "echo" after -execv [02:49] typos are telling me to go sleeping. [02:50] phh: I'll work with it. That seems to work. [02:57] phh: removed 'o' from free, updated 3) and made the exit nicer echo "Bye $USER" && exit ;; [02:59] phh: I don't suppose you know how to open a new tab/window through bash scripting, do you? [03:01] annyone know what package contains mysql.data.dll === iivv_ is now known as iivv [03:13] If I am writing a kde based program, would it make sence to use "kde emerge for windows" to get it to compile in windows? as far as I have read emerge can be used to compile a apps that are part of kde for windows, but what about my little app that is not officaly part of kde? [03:16] ##windows mmmiiikkkeee [03:22] bazhang: I don't mean to be stupid, but how do I change the irc channel in quassel; and your likely right i should go ask in #windows or #kdedevel [03:23] never mind [03:23] i got it [03:23] the little "join" button [03:24] okay [03:24] okay [03:24] i was looking in the configuration dialog... silly me [03:24] thanks a bunch === leandra is now known as leandra_ [03:31] !compiz [03:31] Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz === JulCes_ is now known as JulCes === Paddy_EIRE_ is now known as Paddy_EIRE === leandra_ is now known as leandra === gary_ is now known as Guest51257 === Guest51257 is now known as gsteinert [04:08] phh: How do I create a loop for a command? I want to have one command repeat itself over and over. [04:11] hey [04:11] I just switched from gnome to kde,how do i get the desktop icons back that were on the top left [04:12] SetiAmon: There is no 'desktop' in KDE. [04:13] SetiAmon: You will want to drag and drop the icons from your K Menu onto your workspace. [04:13] you know when it loads up there is a section with all my icons on the desktop,i closed that,how do I get it back [04:14] SetiAmon: Icons or the files which are in your ~/Desktop directory? [04:15] yes the ~/desktop icons.I mean the ones that load up on my desktop [04:15] I just switcehd from gnome to kde [04:15] OK. Then you want to have the Folder Viewer widget on your desktop and set it to your ~/Desktop directory [04:15] Click on the cashew from the top right corner, unlock widgets, then choose Add Widget. [04:16] From the list, click on the plus '+' to add it to your workspace. [04:16] IIRC, it's about half way down the list. [04:19] Dig [04:19] Thanks i'll try that [04:19] thats great and all but [04:20] i'm talking about the icons that came when i first booted,The ones on the top left on the desktop i closed that accidentally when messing around and would just like to know how to load that up [04:21] SetiAmon: What icons were they? [04:28] I'll figure that out i guess.how about just moving widgets around,i can't drag and move the widgets were I want them? [04:29] am i connected [04:31] just the ones from my kde desktop [04:31] I closed them i guess.new to kde is all [04:31] I'll figure it out [04:31] but you know whats really irritating me [04:32] I can't drag and drop my widgets anywhere?I don't like this kde just puts the widgets were it wants to,how to i move them? [04:36] SetiAmon: Be sure your widgets are unlocked. Go to the top right and click on the cashew. Choose unlock widgets. To move them, put your mouse over the widget and give it a second or two for the tab to show on the side. From there, drag and drop to your heart's content. [04:40] it says "lock" so i imagine it is unlocked [04:40] Oh wait [04:41] Still [04:41] Still not letting me move my icons around,widgets [04:43] where are you grabbing them? I have to grab my unified system monitor widget by its edge. [04:44] hello [04:44] the weather and analog clock widgets I can grab anywhere. [04:44] Draik that is what i was doing just not "sticking" to any of the panels [04:44] oh, I have them on the desktop. [04:44] hay alguien hay ??? [04:45] !es | meddle_ [04:45] meddle_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [04:45] the widgets are going BEHIND the panels? [04:46] What i'm trying to do is to place my widgets in the panels,move them around,should be simple but the widgets are going behind the panels,not sticking to it and the widgets on the panel are not letting me move them around,everything is unlocked [04:47] I just figured that out. Open Panel Settings, and then you can left-click your widgets to drag them around. [04:48] SetiAmon: is that working for you as well? [04:49] nope [04:49] I open panel settings and all,but the widgets are not clicking into the panels,i can't move the ones on the panel either [04:49] U neab [04:49] I mean [04:49] I can move the widgets [04:49] but they are not docking [04:50] click them again to release them, maybe? [04:51] Hmm no i see what you mean by panel settings.i can move things around a little [04:51] but i can't for instance drag them off the panel onto the desk top or from the desktop to the panel.or really much flexiability with moving them around the panel [04:52] nope. you have to use the desktop cashew in the upper right corner to summon desktop widgets. [04:53] Hmm.and what about dragging icons off the menu's and onto the desktop like firefox,seems I can't do that either? [04:53] shesh maybe i should go back to gnome [04:54] no, you click the cashew, select "add widgets", pick the one you want to add out of the list, and click "add" at the bottom [04:55] seriously, the best reason to use either KDE or Gnome is that you like it better. [04:55] its just a little frusterating [04:55] I used KDE 3.x happily for years in PCLOS. I used Gnome happily in Mint 6.0 [04:55] KDE looks better but i think gnome handles better so far [04:55] Learning is often frustrating. [04:56] hello [04:56] I'm actually interested in trying all the little casual games that KDE has over gnome. [04:56] I'll have to install them, they aren't in Kubuntu by default. [04:56] gnome vs kde ilike gnome [04:57] gnome is pretty ugly though [04:57] I like em both, but I am *really* lookin forward to Lubuntu. [04:57] Lubuntu? [04:57] what windows manager does that use [04:57] LXDE [04:57] Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. [04:58] LXpanel, Openbox, PCmanFM, LXterm, not sure of the rest. [04:58] brb [04:59] now what was Lubuntu [05:00] #lubuntu [05:00] lxde and Ubuntu [05:00] !info lxde [05:00] lxde (source: lxde-common): Meta-package for the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.2.1+svn20080509-5 (jaunty), package size 2 kB, installed size 40 kB [05:00] There's a community, U-lite, that was gonna do that, but I don't think they got it going w/ Intrepid before Jaunty released. [05:01] Quick bash scripting question. Does the local variable carry to another konsole tab? [05:02] I don't see the point of going light these days i saw a terrabyte HD at best by for 100$ I mean shesh i havn't even filled up this 250 gig [05:03] I have 1.5Mb of ram and play WoW. I have run out of ram a couple times in just the last week. [05:03] Demonicdata: I'm on 4HDD - 1TB, 500GB, 250GB and 80GB on one desktop. [05:03] s/4HDD/4 HDD [05:03] Shesh [05:03] er, no, that's 1.5 GB of ram. Still, running out of ram is no fun at all. [05:03] how much can you torrent man? [05:04] 4 Gigs ram here,but 250 gigs of hd [05:04] arkanabar: I saw that and I just knew that's not right and figured you meant GB, not MB [05:04] Desktop has 4GB, but it's a 32-bit system so it only reads 3GB [05:04] Yeah thats why i went x64 this time. [05:05] I haven't really had any problem,I had to download and install beta flash and beta x-fi drivers but thats it [05:05] heh, the RAM limit includes the ram on your GPU. [05:05]