[05:02] <Satirik> hey
[05:02] <Satirik> anyone here could review my translation file on launchpad ?
[05:03] <Satirik> i uploaded it 11days ago :(
[05:25] <Hobbsee> cool new team pages!
[05:28] <Satirik> anyone here could review my translation file on launchpad ?
[06:50] <forces> hi!
[06:50] <forces> hello?
[06:50]  * Hobbsee waves
[06:52] <forces> i'm looking for a repo
[06:52] <forces> I wanna update openoffice in hardy
[06:52] <forces> openoffice 3.0 it's ok
[06:53] <jmarsden> forces: Did you try hardy-backports and hardy-updates ?
[06:53] <forces> yes
[06:53] <forces> hardy-backports doesn't have openoffice 3
[06:53] <Hobbsee> jmarsden: *shudder*.  I doubt it would have made it to -backports, and definetly not for updates
[06:54] <forces> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openoffice&searchon=names&suite=hardy-backports&section=all
[06:54] <forces> look
[06:54] <Hobbsee> forces: google suggests you use http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2008/10/ppa-for-openofficeorg-30.html
[06:54] <jmarsden> Hobbsee: True, but they are the logical places to check for updates versions of stuff that is already in Ubuntu...
[06:54] <Hobbsee> jmarsden: indeed :)
[06:55] <forces> where can I see a list of all avaible PPA repositories for hardy?
[06:56] <jmarsden> forces: There are probably thousands of them :)  PPAs are in essence *personal*, not official Ubuntu created things.
[06:56] <forces> :O
[06:56] <forces> so... it's not secure use that repo?
[06:57] <forces> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu hardy main
[06:57] <jmarsden> PPA == Personal Package Archive.  You have to trust whoever created it.
[06:59] <forces> so... launchpad can have 2 or more repos for openoffice
[06:59] <forces> because whoever can create one
[07:00] <jmarsden> forces: Yes.  You might want to check http://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs and see who is in the team, see if you recognize any of the names there, etc..  LaunchPad is usable by anyone who agrees to the Ubuntu Code of Conduct and if they agree to the PPA terms... they can have a PPA.
[07:02] <jmarsden> My guess is that that particular PPA is probably fine... but the packages there are not an official part of Ubuntu, they are not necessarily tested by Ubuntu staff (or volunteers!) in any way
[07:04] <forces> and they are not completely build
[07:04] <forces> https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa
[07:04] <forces> >.<
[07:04] <forces> I need l10n packages for change language
[07:11] <forces> Im talking with calc
[07:12] <forces> it's the PPA administrador
[07:12] <forces> he's*
[07:14] <forces> hello?
[07:25] <jmarsden> OK.  If calc is involved they are legit packages :)
[07:26] <forces> do you know calc?
[07:26] <forces> but he has not compiled the languages packages
[07:26] <jmarsden> Not face to face, but on IRC he has discused Openoffice packaging plenty of times...
[07:26] <wgrant> He's Ubuntu's OOo maintainer.
[07:26] <forces> I wanna tell him that
[07:26] <forces> >.<
[07:27] <wgrant> He knows.
[07:27] <forces> why you dont care spanish people?
[07:28] <jmarsden> forces: I don't think you have much idea what it takes to deal with packages the size of OOo... it is *huge*!  I really doubt calc is in any way anti-Spanish :)
[07:29] <forces> yes, that's true, I dont have idea
[07:30] <forces> but why dont wait until the languages packages are complete build
[07:30] <wgrant> Huh?
[07:30] <forces> because right now I can't install openoffice 3.0.1
[07:30] <wgrant> What do you mean?
[07:30] <forces> they remove
[07:30] <forces> just openoffice 3.1 is avaible
[07:31] <wgrant> AFAICT it is *you* who should be waiting until the language packs are built.
[07:31] <wgrant> So, this is another aspect of PPAs - they're often broken, and don't ever need to be fixed.
[07:32] <forces> me and all spanish people
[07:32] <jmarsden> forces: If you have a suitable machine and many hours to spare, you could download the source packages and rebuild them on your own machine... for any set of languages you want.  or, you could consider upgrading to a Ubuntu release that includes official OOo 3.0.1 pacakges :)
[07:33] <forces> i cant upgrade because my intel graphics card doesn't work in jaunty
[07:33] <jmarsden> Is it very very old?  Or is there a bug report about that issue?
[07:34] <forces> have you read the jaunty release notes?
[07:34] <jmarsden> Yes, a while ago... but I don't remember everything in them :)
[07:34] <forces> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Performance%20regressions%20on%20Intel%20graphics%20cards
[07:34] <forces> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Display%20freezes%20with%20Intel%20graphics%20cards
[07:35] <wgrant> I don't recall that we shipped with any Intel cards not working.
[07:35] <wgrant> Compiz disabled on them, perhaps.
[07:35] <wgrant> But none not working.
[07:35] <forces> you can't play
[07:35] <Hobbsee> wgrant: it's that they don't have as high fps performance as they used to have
[07:35] <jmarsden> I see stuff about performance issues, nothing about "doesn't work"
[07:35] <forces> and everything is slow
[07:35] <forces> and your pc freeze
[07:35] <Hobbsee> that being said, mine actually plays video now, reliably, and doesn't seem slow in most things.
[07:35] <wgrant> Hobbsee: I know, but that != doesn't work.
[07:35] <Hobbsee> wgrant: agreed.
[07:36] <forces> do you have intel graphics?
[07:36] <Hobbsee> yes
[07:37] <forces> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[07:37] <forces> that's mine
[07:37] <forces> :P
[07:38] <jmarsden> So if you do what the release notes say, your system still cannot run OpenOffice under Jaunty?  Seems very odd...
[07:38] <wgrant> jmarsden: That's what I thought.
[07:39] <forces> I don't use jaunty
[07:39] <Hobbsee> however, this conversation is probably more suited to #ubuntu, as it does not relate to launchpad
[07:40] <jmarsden> forces: Try it from a LiveCD?  Does OOo run from that?  And yes, we're offtopic :)
[07:40] <forces> ok
[07:40] <Hobbsee> The ppa listed above is likely to be the most suitable, and if it doesn't have everything that you were hoping for, you're free to take it up with the owner of it.  However, there's no guarentee that the owner will, or even should, make more packages for you
[07:40] <forces> just think in spanish people
[07:41] <forces> all latin american people
[07:41] <wgrant> Most of them don't need to use OOo 3.0
[07:41] <forces> millions and millions
[07:41] <forces> :P
[07:41] <wgrant> Or if they do, they can upgrade to Jaunty.
[07:41] <Hobbsee> exactly
[07:41] <wgrant> PPAs are not intended to be used by millions of people.
[07:41] <forces> no because we dont have money to buy a Nvidia
[07:41] <forces> so we use intel
[07:41] <forces> and intel work too bad in jaunty
[07:43] <jmarsden> forces: "Too bad" is subjective.  Worst case, try Karmic and work with the developers to improve Intel video support for that release :)
[07:45] <forces> good advice, maybe later when karmic have another kernel
[07:46] <forces> I read that kernel team was working with intel hardware in linux 2.6.30
[08:00] <mithro> still no launchpad developers about?
[08:00] <Hobbsee> mithro: it's a Sunday.  Very unlikely.
[08:01] <wgrant> And a UDS Sunday.
[08:01] <mithro> Hobbsee: well they don't seem to have been around at all last week because of the allhands/summit so I was hoping they might be around now
[08:01] <wgrant> So they've probably all got the flu, or are drunk.
[08:02] <Hobbsee> mithro: you'll probably be waiting for another week, on that basis.  THey don't tned to wokr weekends at all, let alone when they're travelling
[08:02] <mithro> :(
[08:02] <forces> bye
[08:03] <forces> think in spanish people when you are compiling/programing
[08:03] <forces> say no racism
[08:03] <forces> xD
[12:02] <staffan> Quick question: How do I untarget a bug for a release? I can't seem to find a button for this anywhere
[12:12] <andrea-bs> staffan, you can only target bugs to milestones or series, not releases
[12:20] <wgrant> staffan: You can't delete the row, but you're meant to set its status to Won't Fix.
[12:20] <wgrant> staffan: "Won't Fix" has a special meaning there.
[12:21] <wgrant> andrea-bs: The link still says "Nominate for release", unfortunately.
[12:21] <wgrant> Even though what you said is true.
[12:27] <maxb> Surely the "Nominate for release" link exits to allow it to be nominated for *other* releases?
[12:27] <maxb> oh, misunderstood, I see why it is unfortunate now
[12:48] <staffan> wgrant, andrea-bs: Are there any good reasons why it cannot be undone?
[12:50] <staffan> oh, and I can't set it to "Won't fix" - after deleting the series in a desperate attempt to undone my error its no longer an option
[12:51] <wgrant> staffan: Urgh, you were able to delete the series? That sounds like a bug.
[12:51] <staffan> s/undone/undo/
[12:51] <wgrant> staffan: Which is the bug?
[12:51] <staffan> wgrant: oh yes :)
[12:51] <staffan> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/peekabot/+bug/379814
[12:52] <wgrant> staffan: How did you delete it?
[12:53] <staffan> wgrant: If you go the series overview page, there's a "Delete series" option in the sidebar on the right
[12:54] <wgrant> staffan: ... and that does that? Oh dear.
[12:54] <wgrant> staffan: It just moved it to another project, over which you have no privileges. So you can't set Won't Fix any more.
[12:55] <wgrant> You might want to ask a question at http://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion. Somebody might be able to resolve this mess. In the meantime, I'm going to file a bug about that 'deletion' method.
[12:55] <staffan> wgrant: Well, on edge.launchpad.net there is at least. Looks like that functionalitu isn't there in the non-beta code.
[12:56] <wgrant> staffan: Right, I know it was added this month.
[13:01] <staffan> I put it down as "Invalid", which I guess will do fine. And possibly also make me a top contributor in the glorious Obsolete Junk project :)
[13:01] <wgrant> Since it's not the development series, Invalid is as good as Won't Fix.
[13:03] <staffan> wgrant: thanks for the help
[13:03] <wgrant> staffan: No problem.
[14:16] <binrapt> Can you prevent Launchpad from mailing you about your own questions? (it will notify you about you making a post which is obviously unnecessary because you already know you did)
[15:20] <bilboed> Hi. I'm having a problem with a PPA. I've just uploaded a new package, it was built correctly .. but it's status is still pending.
[15:20] <bilboed> The package in question is pitivi here : https://launchpad.net/~gstreamer-developers/+archive/ppa
[15:21] <bilboed> it says "Pending publication"
[15:22] <bilboed> I said nothing, seems to lag, it's now published :)
[15:23] <Hobbsee> bilboed: publisher runs every 15 mins, so there is a bit of a delay :)
[15:23] <bilboed> ok :)
[15:23] <bilboed> first time I'm actually doing a deb package
[15:46] <goshawk> is there any plan for armel support in ppa?
[16:02] <beuno> Hobbsee, are you at UDS?
[16:03] <Hobbsee> beuno: no :(
[16:03] <Hobbsee> beuno: uni and such takes precedence, i'm afraid
[16:03] <beuno> Hobbsee, aw  :(
[16:03] <Hobbsee> beuno: indeed.  Hopefully i'll make it to the one in 1 year's time
[16:03] <Hobbsee> will depend on what happens with post-uni work, etc
[16:40] <satirik> hello
[16:41] <satirik> anyone here could review my translation file on launchpad ?
[19:43] <satirik> anyone here could review my translation file on launchpad ?
[20:43] <jarle> I am lost, I can not find any way to actually submit a bug, even though I am logged in I do not see any "report bug button"?
[20:51] <meoblast001> what's this i hear
[20:51] <meoblast001> all of Launchpad isn't going free?
[21:21] <magcius> meoblast001, Soyaz isn't going free.
[21:21] <magcius> meoblast001, but there may be others that aren't going free,
[21:21] <meoblast001> why not
[22:57] <mtaylor> hey all.. I'm having problems breaking a bzr lock on lp and I'm getting a traceback...
[22:58] <mtaylor> bzr break-lock lp:drizzle/mordred
[22:58] <mtaylor> just fundamentally fails