| knome | wut? :P | 09:48 |
|---|---|---|
| kwwii | w00t! internet connectivity | 13:00 |
| knome | ;) | 13:00 |
| _MMA_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Breathe_Icon_Set-20090524.tar.gz | 15:02 |
| shadeslayer | i just wanted you guys to see this http://francois.vogelweith.com/ | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | there are 9 awesome themes there along with ppa repos , i was thinking if the artwork team could make something along those lines | 15:28 |
| _MMA_ | shadeslayer: Currently there is a lack of technical ability and time for the "team" to maintain a repo. | 15:29 |
| shadeslayer | _MMA_: i just meant that i found those themes pretty good and maybe ubuntu should incorporate them in the next release | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | or something which looks like them | 15:30 |
| _MMA_ | shadeslayer: This artwork team has just about 0 to do with what Canonical puts in Ubuntu. (unfortunately) | 15:31 |
| * _MMA_ points to topic and notes the word "community". | 15:32 | |
| shadeslayer | _MMA_: ah... i thought that there would be devels here :( | 15:32 |
| knome | well, there is possibilities to get some artwork *packages* in ubuntu | 15:32 |
| macvr | _MMA_: i checked out the breathe icons , but looks like there isnt nm signal icons yet , are they breathe team accepting icons? | 15:32 |
| _MMA_ | macvr: Read my reply to you on the list. | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | _MMA_: also the breathe icon set is kinda too orange imo :) | 15:33 |
| _MMA_ | knome: You have to be careful to also say "repos". Because just using "Ubuntu" sounds like at install time. | 15:33 |
| knome | _MMA_, right. :P when i say packages, i mean something that is possible to install :P | 15:34 |
| knome | not what is installed by default | 15:34 |
| _MMA_ | Sure. noobs don't often see the difference. | 15:34 |
| macvr | _MMA_: oh, just now checked it... ok.. i do understand that any missing icons will be inherited... so breathe is not stressing on separate icons for nm-signal? | 15:34 |
| _MMA_ | macvr: At the moment, no. | 15:35 |
| macvr | _MMA_: ok... but i have a few ideas , if u are interested for later i could improve upon them...? | 15:37 |
| _MMA_ | macvr: It's wide open. Just post to the list. Having examples on the "Submissions" page will help people understand your ideas. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions | 15:39 |
| _MMA_ | macvr: Also make sure to add: [Breathe] at the start of the email when it's about the set. | 15:40 |
| macvr | _MMA_: oh... ok... since this was my first time being involved , needed directions... will post on the list and submissions too.. :) | 15:40 |
| _MMA_ | macvr: Do you have examples of previous work? | 15:41 |
| SiDi | hi people | 15:41 |
| * _MMA_ waves | 15:41 | |
| SiDi | shadeslayer, what you could do though is ask françois volgeweith to try to get his theme packages directly in ubuntu repositories. They're pretty popular indeed (even ifthey're way to gnome-centric imo) | 15:42 |
| _MMA_ | dashua[A90]: Why the "[A90]"? Different connection? | 15:42 |
| SiDi | he got a new netbook | 15:42 |
| SiDi | an A90 :D | 15:42 |
| _MMA_ | Ahh... :) | 15:42 |
| macvr | _MMA_: i actually have them as pngs , but created not much experience with inkscape, but using the templates i have created 4 svgs, but its just a rough replica of the pngs i have | 15:43 |
| shadeslayer | SiDi: hehe...well ill see if i can contact him | 15:43 |
| macvr | _MMA_: i'll send it via the list , u could check it out | 15:43 |
| _MMA_ | macvr: Links to anything you have now would be appreciated. (just something to look at) | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | SiDi: just a note though...why is it that every icon theme is see on ubuntu artwork wiki has orange everywhere...isnt orange too bold?? | 15:44 |
| _MMA_ | macvr: Also, if you're having trouble with Inkscape, just ask. I'm sure someone can help. or maybe even convert your PNGs to SVG. | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | *i see | 15:44 |
| SiDi | shadeslayer, its cause it looks nice with brown, and brown is the default colors of the current releases (hardy/jaunty) | 15:45 |
| SiDi | shadeslayer, the icon theme in xubuntu is blue :D | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | SiDi: ubuntu really needs a facelift :P something like light yellow for folders etc | 15:46 |
| _MMA_ | shadeslayer: Why? | 15:46 |
| SiDi | shadeslayer, check out breathe's folder icon | 15:46 |
| SiDi | it isnt flashy orange afaik | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | _MMA_: as i said orange is too bold...hurts my eyes...looks horrible on dark back grounds | 15:46 |
| _MMA_ | IYO. ;) | 15:47 |
| SiDi | i disagree :D | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | SiDi: i am talking about the breathe icon theme :) | 15:47 |
| macvr | _MMA_: i have published any work , mostly i created for personal use, its basically like a hobby :) ... inkscape i'v been using for a couple of hrs and got a bit of hang of it... but help conversion from png to svg would be nice? | 15:47 |
| _MMA_ | Change, for the sake of it, without direction is folly. | 15:47 |
| macvr | ^HAVENT | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | SiDi: everyone has their opinions :) | 15:47 |
| _MMA_ | macvr: Gotcha. | 15:47 |
| _MMA_ | macvr: In any event, throw something up and link in here. | 15:49 |
| SiDi | _MMA_, i found the missing symlinks for suspend/reboot | 15:58 |
| SiDi | hibernate / reboot actually | 15:58 |
| SiDi | its in actions : system-reboot.svg/png is missing | 15:58 |
| _MMA_ | SiDi: Cool. Post them to the bug and I'll add them. | 15:58 |
| SiDi | and system-hibernate too | 15:58 |
| * _MMA_ looks | 15:59 | |
| SiDi | shall i put that on the ML ? i didnt fill a bug report on LP | 15:59 |
| _MMA_ | Oh. i thought I saw one like that. Gimmie a sec. Ill look here. | 15:59 |
| SiDi | okies | 15:59 |
| _MMA_ | SiDi: And these links fix what exactly? Something in XFCE? | 16:01 |
| macvr | _MMA_: just sent the icons to the list, i still havent got the lightings right , also for now i have used the icon from wireless network as the antenna, | 16:01 |
| _MMA_ | k | 16:01 |
| _MMA_ | Gah. Another one that doesn't use caps. What's with that? :) | 16:02 |
| macvr | _MMA_: ? was that for me? caps? | 16:03 |
| _MMA_ | Yep :) | 16:03 |
| macvr | i dont understand caps? | 16:03 |
| _MMA_ | macvr: You don't use capitol letters where needed. | 16:04 |
| kn100 | Hi | 16:04 |
| macvr | _MMA_: oh :) ... just lazy i guess! my bad , ! | 16:04 |
| macvr | _MMA_: i thought that caps meant something with the art! | 16:05 |
| kn100 | Has canonical released colour specifications for Karmic yet? | 16:05 |
| _MMA_ | macvr: Not a /big/ deal. Just looks odd. Just my personal nit-pick. Just hits me as childish. Or, its sometimes a language issue. | 16:05 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: No. No new news on that front other then Julian Hubbard leaving. | 16:05 |
| macvr | _MMA_: i think that its more because of texting, ! | 16:06 |
| _MMA_ | Gotcha | 16:06 |
| kn100 | _MMA_ thanks, | 16:06 |
| kn100 | i am working on wallpapers for jaunty | 16:06 |
| kn100 | karmix | 16:06 |
| kn100 | argh i hate spelling on a hangover | 16:06 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: Cool. Post 'em to the list. | 16:06 |
| kn100 | want to see my first prototype for one? | 16:07 |
| _MMA_ | sure | 16:07 |
| kn100 | sorry about the banding, i cant seem to get rid of it without having a 6mb jpeg | 16:08 |
| kn100 | http://i44.tinypic.com/16jlu9y.jpg | 16:09 |
| _MMA_ | macvr: Icons look good at 1st look. But are they better than the Human ones or fit with Breathe, we'll see. WIP I understand. Hopefully we can get something going. Sebastien's icons have set the tone for the set lately. | 16:09 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: Honest critique? | 16:10 |
| kn100 | go for it | 16:10 |
| kn100 | it sucks i know | 16:10 |
| SiDi | _MMA_, a quit dialog in XFCE, yeh | 16:10 |
| _MMA_ | Too brand heavy | 16:10 |
| SiDi | the session quit dialog with the hibernate/suspend/quit buttons | 16:10 |
| _MMA_ | SiDi: Gotcha. Ill fix in a min. | 16:10 |
| SiDi | thanks | 16:10 |
| _MMA_ | np | 16:10 |
| kn100 | _MMA_ i will bear that in mind, i was just working for something simple | 16:10 |
| kn100 | the ubuntu logo is just so cool | 16:11 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: Sure. Let me back-track and ask a question. What's the point? What are you going for here? | 16:11 |
| kn100 | _MMA_ i just want to find some way to participate in ubuntu's development | 16:12 |
| SiDi | kn100, its recommanded not to use the logo at all in artwork | 16:12 |
| macvr | _MMA_: thanx for the comment , was wondering if they were too bad to even comment upon since u hadnt replied in a long time... but yeah Its WIP... at fist was thinking of converting png to svg but after working with inkscape i think if i do it fresh it would turn out better... ur thoughts? | 16:12 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: I got that. :) Apply my above question to the aesthetics of you pic. | 16:12 |
| kn100 | _MMA_ i was trying to get something that looked elegant yet simple | 16:13 |
| SiDi | its not bad at all, kn100, but you shouldn't use branding. its very boring for users to have a big logo in the face continuously. | 16:13 |
| _MMA_ | macvr: From scratch will always be better. Ask on the list for help with techniques and defiantly look through the SVGs in the set for ideas/inspiration. | 16:14 |
| kn100 | SiDi and _MMA_ thanks for the critique, i will work towards what you said. I am guessing ubuntu is staying orange/brown | 16:14 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: Elegant and simple to what end? Like, what are you trying to say? And mind you, "because it looks cool" is an acceptable answer. ;) Also, branding isn't bad altogether. Just has to be used correctly. | 16:15 |
| macvr | _MMA_: will do with svg itself , will there be any problems with using the antenna from the wireless icon? i thought using that antenna would be better for continuity? | 16:16 |
| kn100 | i was never good at describing art in school, so i think the because it looks cool answer is the best i can give :) | 16:16 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: I'm just seeing if your thinking about more than "it looks cool". If your going for a particular audience and all. | 16:16 |
| kn100 | oh right, i was trying to appeal to the widest audience possible, I wanted to create something that was as stylish as a mac but as sophisticated as a windows vista wallpaper | 16:17 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: If you stay with the branding (though with less of a central focus) I would use a sharper logo over the blurred one you have. | 16:17 |
| macvr | guys i thought that karmic was going to move away from brown? | 16:18 |
| kn100 | macvr canonical hasnt said anything about moving from brown yet | 16:18 |
| * kn100 is listening to queen :) | 16:19 | |
| _MMA_ | kn100: Well, IMO (and others around here) Going for the widest audiance will often result in watered-down, direction-less pieces. Try to appeal to a age group maybe. Don't be afraid to turn some people off. | 16:19 |
| macvr | kn100: i read some article where Mark said "brown has served well so long" but might be looking for a new color | 16:19 |
| kn100 | _MMA_ good advice, Do you think its a good idea to work on something that isnt brown? | 16:20 |
| * _MMA_ notes the "might". (if the quote is correct) | 16:20 | |
| SiDi | kn100, it is a good idea to do what you feel at ease with | 16:20 |
| kn100 | macvr but yeah might. Since there is a lack of people developing the new theme, we may have to wait for the next LTS | 16:20 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: That's up to you and your vision of what you wanna communicate. | 16:20 |
| SiDi | dont try to do something that goes against your feeling just to "do as you're told" | 16:21 |
| SiDi | express your creativity, instead ;) | 16:21 |
| kn100 | SiDi great. How is the new human theme development going? | 16:21 |
| macvr | kn100: yeah , 10.4 probably will have more appealing looks :) | 16:22 |
| SiDi | you just have to check that it doesnt look incoherent with the default theme (and/or some of the community themes) | 16:22 |
| a_n_d_r_e_w | i hate human theme | 16:22 |
| SiDi | kn100, i'll let you know about the human theme as soon as Canonical hires me ;) | 16:22 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: Though, if you're looking for general guidelines in hopes of generally being in line with what Ubuntu will do next, Orange/Brown is a safe bet for now. We have no other info past that. | 16:22 |
| a_n_d_r_e_w | http://kepfeltoltes.hu/090524/975766470K_perny_k_p_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.png | 16:22 |
| kn100 | Man they keep us in the dark dont they | 16:22 |
| _MMA_ | UDS is going on now so I expect kwwii to have some notes in the next week or 2. | 16:23 |
| SiDi | Dont tell me you prefer Mandriva's default theme, please :D | 16:23 |
| SiDi | knome, still not coming UDS btw ? :P | 16:23 |
| kn100 | hehe the trial part of macromedia fireworks doesnt work, its allways 30 days :) | 16:24 |
| kn100 | (in wine) | 16:24 |
| _MMA_ | SiDi: You building Breathe from BZR? | 16:24 |
| SiDi | _MMA_, usually im waiting for dashua to send me the latest deb XD | 16:25 |
| _MMA_ | SiDi: I'll send you one. Preferred email? | 16:25 |
| SiDi | i'll get it from bzr if you want _MMA_ | 16:25 |
| SiDi | sidnioulz at gmail dot com is good | 16:25 |
| _MMA_ | Ok. I'm doing the fixes now. I wanna see if it fixes the issue for you. | 16:26 |
| SiDi | its lp:breathe-icon-theme ? | 16:26 |
| SiDi | no, its not :/ | 16:26 |
| SiDi | hm | 16:26 |
| _MMA_ | https://code.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/breathe-icon-set/debian-packaging | 16:26 |
| _MMA_ | So: bzr branch lp:~breathe-dev/breathe-icon-set/debian-packaging | 16:26 |
| _MMA_ | Then, cd in and "bzr-buildpackage --native" | 16:27 |
| SiDi | there is such a command ? :O | 16:27 |
| SiDi | Damn. Ill have to try it on my own code, cause making deb packages is painful | 16:27 |
| _MMA_ | yep. Well, *if* you have the package installed. | 16:28 |
| SiDi | ah | 16:28 |
| SiDi | Okey, then i _will_ have to build my deb package :D | 16:28 |
| _MMA_ | Open up Synaptic and browse through the bzr-* packages. | 16:28 |
| SiDi | the buildpackage's output is scary | 16:31 |
| _MMA_ | How so? | 16:32 |
| SiDi | its big :D | 16:32 |
| SiDi | bigger than compiling 15k lines of code with full warnings :D | 16:33 |
| SiDi | gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available | 16:33 |
| SiDi | huh :D i'll let you build the .deb :] | 16:33 |
| _MMA_ | No no. It will build. You just cant sign the .deb. Still works. | 16:34 |
| SiDi | bzr: ERROR: The build failed. | 16:34 |
| _MMA_ | Is there still a .deb? | 16:34 |
| SiDi | no :) | 16:34 |
| _MMA_ | Maybe 1 folder up? | 16:34 |
| SiDi | i got almost all the files, though | 16:35 |
| _MMA_ | Look for a folder called "build-area" | 16:35 |
| SiDi | ok, i see stuff here | 16:35 |
| SiDi | I got a deb, giving it to gdebig :) | 16:36 |
| SiDi | -g | 16:36 |
| _MMA_ | SiDi: You gotta grab rev.42. Gimmie a sec. | 16:37 |
| _MMA_ | *uploaded | 16:37 |
| _MMA_ | (might take a sec) | 16:38 |
| kn100 | i hate using macromedia fireworks in wine, its so slow | 16:38 |
| _MMA_ | SiDi: Should be up now. | 16:38 |
| SiDi | Okey | 16:39 |
| zniavre | hello | 16:42 |
| SiDi | heya | 16:43 |
| kn100 | does anyone know a good site with royalty free textures? im looking for a realistic mud/soil texture | 16:43 |
| zniavre | any chance to get globalmenu included in artwork team ,? | 16:43 |
| SiDi | _MMA_, the reboot one is fixed | 16:43 |
| SiDi | theres the hibernate one too | 16:43 |
| SiDi | the name is system-hibernate according to xfce folks | 16:44 |
| _MMA_ | SiDi: Well IMO they need to be in line with FreeDesktop. | 16:45 |
| _MMA_ | Maybe someone should file a bug. ;) | 16:45 |
| * SiDi has the feeling he's the someone you're mentioning | 16:45 | |
| _MMA_ | :P | 16:46 |
| _MMA_ | SiDi: Actually, looks like they might not have support for them. | 16:48 |
| SiDi | _MMA_, i'll send the bug later on xfce's bugzilla with a patch | 16:48 |
| _MMA_ | I think KDE/Oxygen went with "restart" and not "reboot". Might be good to at least line up with each other. | 16:48 |
| SiDi | ill add a note about that, but when i locate system-reboot i get matches from other icon themes :p | 16:49 |
| SiDi | and i got xfsm-hibernate too, which is used as backup for when theres no system-hibernate | 16:49 |
| _MMA_ | Breathe went with "system-restart" and "system-suspend-hibernate" as per the Oxygen set. | 16:49 |
| SiDi | anyways i'll post on their bugzilla with a short patch | 16:49 |
| SiDi | by the meanwhile, if we could have the symlink, it'd be great.. :D | 16:51 |
| _MMA_ | Ok. In the mean time, its fixed in the set. Though, I'm odd about creating fixes where standards should be followed/enacted or there's bugs in apps. | 16:51 |
| SiDi | they dont have a big team, hard for them to watch such details on their own ;) | 16:51 |
| SiDi | thanks tho | 16:51 |
| _MMA_ | np. So you see it fixed on your end right? | 16:51 |
| knome | SiDi, nope, not coming to uds this time :( | 16:53 |
| _MMA_ | SiDi: ^^^ | 16:54 |
| knome | i'll keep the xubuntu HQ up ;) | 16:54 |
| kn100 | well ive lost my inspiration for wallpapers :) | 16:57 |
| knome | kn100, already? ;) | 16:57 |
| kn100 | hey, who designs the CD covers for the releases? | 16:57 |
| kn100 | im really good with layouts | 16:57 |
| SiDi | _MMA_, the reboot is fixed indeed :) | 16:57 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: No clue. | 16:57 |
| thorwil | kn100, someone at canonical | 16:57 |
| SiDi | the other name i gave you should be the good one | 16:57 |
| _MMA_ | SiDi: Killer. For reference: http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html | 16:57 |
| kn100 | the one job i could have done well | 16:58 |
| SiDi | im about to have to leave home, will be back in ~1 hour | 16:58 |
| kn100 | lol | 16:58 |
| SiDi | cheers _MMA_ | 16:58 |
| kn100 | buy SiDi | 16:58 |
| SiDi | i'll bug the xfce guys and write the code for them | 16:58 |
| SiDi | but it probably wont land before 4.8 in a good year | 16:58 |
| knome | lol | 16:58 |
| SiDi | knome, :D | 16:58 |
| SiDi | is it too optimistic ?:) | 16:58 |
| _MMA_ | SiDi: np. I dont think the names will make the spec but at least being inline with KDE will be good. | 16:58 |
| knome | 4.8 will maybe be released on 2015 | 16:58 |
| knome | ;) | 16:58 |
| SiDi | knome, leaves us time to write the xfce doc then :D :D | 16:59 |
| knome | yes. | 16:59 |
| knome | (and 2015 was optimistic) | 16:59 |
| SiDi | come on | 17:00 |
| SiDi | troll :d | 17:00 |
| _MMA_ | :P | 17:01 |
| knome | not a troll, just being realistic | 17:01 |
| knome | ;) | 17:01 |
| savvas | sur-realistic :P | 17:01 |
| knome | nah | 17:01 |
| SiDi | ok, logging out | 17:01 |
| knome | the xfce folks plan their releases well :P | 17:01 |
| knome | see you SiDi | 17:01 |
| SiDi | see you asap people | 17:01 |
| SiDi | plan well -> thats a troll :D | 17:01 |
| knome | that's teasing | 17:02 |
| knome | to get them work faster | 17:02 |
| _MMA_ | hahah. Because we all get paid so well. :P | 17:02 |
| knome | totally. | 17:03 |
| knome | well one of them soon might get paid well :P | 17:03 |
| * _MMA_ shoves his piles of money and hookers aside and goes to make a pizza. | 17:04 | |
| * knome steals all of _MMA_'s money | 17:04 | |
| _MMA_ | As long as I have my pizza. | 17:05 |
| knome | sure. | 17:06 |
| knome | i can leave you money for a few more | 17:06 |
| SiDi | :D | 17:06 |
| _MMA_ | Yeah. Hookers gotta eat to. | 17:06 |
| SiDi | knome, hire myself as a pizza maker for _MMA_ then | 17:06 |
| knome | haha | 17:06 |
| knome | SiDi, didn't you go already? :P | 17:07 |
| SiDi | :D | 17:08 |
| SiDi | my driver's late :D | 17:08 |
| knome | haha | 17:08 |
| SiDi | alright | 17:08 |
| SiDi | see you soon | 17:08 |
| knome | ;) | 17:08 |
| knome | bye | 17:08 |
| _MMA_ | bbl | 17:08 |
| dashua[A90] | _MMA_: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/14971/screenshot_1Y7En3.png | 18:29 |
| dashua[A90] | Tweaked UNR a bit, netbook-launcher and compiz are not playing well together | 18:29 |
| _MMA_ | Still, fun. :) | 18:30 |
| dashua[A90] | This thing is great | 18:30 |
| dashua[A90] | All of my kids want one now =/ | 18:31 |
| _MMA_ | :D | 18:31 |
| * _MMA_ will be getting them a Wii soon. Though I'm building them a new basic box from the guts of a Dell Optiplex. | 18:32 | |
| dashua[A90] | Battery lasts about 10 hours | 18:32 |
| dashua[A90] | Ooh nice | 18:32 |
| _MMA_ | very nice | 18:32 |
| knome | dashua[A90], how much is "all of my kids" | 18:33 |
| dashua[A90] | How much is it going to cost or how many kids? | 18:33 |
| knome | the latter | 18:34 |
| knome | i hope it's not that "a 90" | 18:34 |
| knome | ;)) | 18:34 |
| dashua[A90] | 3 girls 15,10, and 8 | 18:34 |
| knome | yay | 18:34 |
| knome | congrats ;) | 18:34 |
| dashua[A90] | Thx | 18:34 |
| dashua[A90] | I'm going to need it. | 18:35 |
| knome | of course | 18:35 |
| knome | kids are so... nice. especially girls. | 18:36 |
| knome | especially at their teen age. | 18:36 |
| knome | (and pre-teen age) | 18:36 |
| dashua[A90] | Yeah, they're fun now and all of them use Linux, which is cool | 18:36 |
| dashua[A90] | They really don't have much of a choice in the house though | 18:37 |
| * _MMA_ hugs his fiber connection. Downloading ISO images @2.7MB/sec. :P | 18:37 | |
| knome | hehe | 18:37 |
| knome | still haven't got my wife using linux | 18:37 |
| knome | ;< | 18:37 |
| _MMA_ | knome: Don't give her the choice. "twas what I did. ;) | 18:38 |
| dashua[A90] | _MMA_: Same here, they acclimate quite fast. | 18:39 |
| knome | :D | 18:39 |
| knome | lol | 18:39 |
| knome | have to go, guests | 18:39 |
| knome | see you! | 18:39 |
| dashua[A90] | Pz | 18:39 |
| _MMA_ | later | 18:39 |
| dashua[A90] | Breathe look exceptionally sexxy on this little beast too :) | 18:40 |
| dashua[A90] | looks* | 18:40 |
| _MMA_ | Nice ;) | 18:40 |
| dashua[A90] | I have'n't used another icon set since last May or so when development began | 18:41 |
| _MMA_ | Just keep testing and file bugs where needed. | 18:41 |
| dashua[A90] | I have'n't used another icon set since last May or so when development began I strongly disagree. The contrast is quite nice. | 18:42 |
| dashua[A90] | Oh and whoever said Breathe does not look good on dark themes, | 18:42 |
| dashua[A90] | Sorry, getting used to these smaller keys =/ | 18:43 |
| _MMA_ | It's about all I use it on. Dust and DarkRoom. | 18:43 |
| dashua[A90] | _MMA_: Will do on the bugs for sure | 18:43 |
| dashua[A90] | I think it actually looks better on darker themes | 18:44 |
| dashua[A90] | Just my opinion | 18:44 |
| _MMA_ | Been using them almost exclusively during Jaunty. More than my beloved Studio theme. ;) | 18:44 |
| dashua[A90] | Oh wow, that is big ;) | 18:44 |
| _MMA_ | :P | 18:45 |
| geek_ubuntu | hi | 21:58 |
| geek_ubuntu | hello | 21:58 |
| geek_ubuntu | I was wondering who to speak to about contributing graphics for ubuntu | 21:59 |
| kn100 | hey | 21:59 |
| kn100 | depends what your contributing | 21:59 |
| kn100 | and http://www.noob.us/miscellaneous/geek-squad-fails-computer-repair-test/ | 21:59 |
| kn100 | oops wrong link | 21:59 |
| kn100 | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/artwork/ | 21:59 |
| geek_ubuntu | nothing there | 22:00 |
| kn100 | oh sorry its case sensetive | 22:01 |
| geek_ubuntu | oh yeh there is | 22:01 |
| kn100 | the real link is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork | 22:01 |
| geek_ubuntu | found some artwork examples https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkJmakProposals?action=edit&template=ArizonaTeam/MeetingTemplate | 22:02 |
| geek_ubuntu | i would like to contribute by making icons wallpapers login background and startup splash logo | 22:02 |
| kn100 | add them to the wiki | 22:04 |
| kn100 | i am new to this too | 22:04 |
| _MMA_ | geek_ubuntu: kn100 is correct. Joining the mailing list and putting items on the wiki is the way to go. | 22:07 |
| kn100 | yay face | 22:09 |
| dashua | http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/14984/screenshot_7WLM53.png | 22:24 |
| dashua | Few tweaks to Alvaro | 22:24 |
| kn100 | looks nice | 22:24 |
| dashua | Thx | 22:25 |
| dashua | This theme is fairly customizable from what I can tell as far as color schemes go. | 22:26 |
| kn100 | i use standard ubuntu theme | 22:26 |
| kn100 | mainly because ive never been able to figure out how to get other themes | 22:26 |
| dashua | Oh, just add them to /home/user name/.themes | 22:28 |
| dashua | Or drag and drop to gnome-appearance-preferences if packaged in tar.gz | 22:28 |
| _MMA_ | dashua: You test the latest Breathe? | 22:29 |
| dashua | Yeah, just commented on that Rhythmbox report | 22:29 |
| * _MMA_ looks | 22:30 | |
| kn100 | how can i test this new breathe? | 22:31 |
| dashua | I thought when I originally reported that is was inherited Human not realizing it was a hi-color icon | 22:31 |
| dashua | Download the tar.gz and drop it in your themes tab | 22:32 |
| _MMA_ | dashua: Cool. Player controls will look odd 'till Oliver gives me the last few control icons but they should be done for release. I also think Sebastien wants to make a custom icon at some point. | 22:32 |
| kn100 | dashua where from? | 22:32 |
| dashua | kn100: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Breathe_Icon_Set-20090524.tar.gz | 22:32 |
| kn100 | thanks | 22:32 |
| dashua | _MMA_: A custom icon would be sweet being that the Breathe Rhythmbox icon is so good | 22:33 |
| _MMA_ | Note that that is missing the specific fix we're talking about but is still pretty much up-to-date. | 22:33 |
| dashua | Cool, this is much better than the hi-color icon or minimally more consistent | 22:34 |
| kn100 | what do i do with this tar.gz | 22:35 |
| kn100 | ? | 22:35 |
| dashua | This wood background from saleel is really good for Karmic | 22:35 |
| dashua | kn100: Right click Desktop > Change background > Drop that file into your themes | 22:36 |
| kn100 | ok | 22:37 |
| kn100 | fantastic | 22:37 |
| kn100 | thanks# | 22:37 |
| dashua | :) | 22:37 |
| _MMA_ | dashua: Which wall? | 22:37 |
| * _MMA_ cant remember | 22:37 | |
| dashua | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=eucawood.jpg | 22:38 |
| _MMA_ | dashua: I like it as a texture but I think its a bit much as-is. | 22:38 |
| dashua | Yeah, it's a very good start | 22:39 |
| kn100 | WOW | 22:39 |
| kn100 | breathe is amazing | 22:39 |
| ubuntu_geek | 22:40 | |
| kn100 | what format do you request the icons to be in and where can i submit a try for an icon? | 22:41 |
| kn100 | one icon that needs changing is the one that comes up with exe files | 22:41 |
| _MMA_ | dashua: Ive been using DarkRoom, Breathe and the "simple" wallpaper for a long while. | 22:41 |
| kn100 | breathe is beyond sexy | 22:41 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet | 22:41 |
| dashua | _MMA_: Yeah, that background is better than the default | 22:41 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: Note that where the set is missing icons it inherits Human than gnome. So, we simply might not have the icon yet. | 22:42 |
| kn100 | but breathe OMG it is so sexy | 22:43 |
| kn100 | do you have to use svg's? | 22:44 |
| kn100 | i make svg's | 22:44 |
| kn100 | i cant make svg's | 22:45 |
| kn100 | i mean | 22:45 |
| _MMA_ | Yes. The source files are all SVG. | 22:46 |
| kn100 | oh man | 22:46 |
| kn100 | you cant convert high resolution png's to svg's right? | 22:46 |
| _MMA_ | ? | 22:47 |
| _MMA_ | s/can't/can? | 22:47 |
| kn100 | can you convert high resolution pngs (like 2000x2000) to svg's? | 22:48 |
| _MMA_ | Yes but it's *very* messy. | 22:48 |
| _MMA_ | And as a submission, I wouldn't accept them for Breathe. | 22:48 |
| kn100 | nevermind | 22:49 |
| kn100 | you guys seem to have it covered | 22:49 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: Try to make the jump from raster to vector. Takes a bit of thought but you'll never go back. | 22:49 |
| _MMA_ | Except for photos. | 22:49 |
| knome | ;> | 22:50 |
| knome | or gf's | 22:50 |
| kn100 | _mma_ whats the best oss vector prog? | 22:50 |
| knome | *oops* :P | 22:50 |
| knome | kn100, inkscape. | 22:50 |
| kn100 | is that what you guys are using for the icons | 22:50 |
| _MMA_ | Yes | 22:50 |
| kn100 | ok i will try and learn that | 22:50 |
| _MMA_ | You won't regret it. | 22:51 |
| * _MMA_ still has to dig into Blender. (one of these years) | 22:51 | |
| kn100 | know any good tutorial sites? | 22:52 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: On thing about Inkscape, *lots* or resources. Honestly, I would /join #inkscape and chat with them. | 22:53 |
| kn100 | ok | 22:53 |
| kn100 | will google it | 22:53 |
| _MMA_ | DeviantArt has lots of HOWTOs. (just search) And a great manual done last year: http://en.flossmanuals.net/Inkscape/FM_Inkscape_18Oct08.pdf | 22:57 |
| _MMA_ | http://inkscapetutorials.wordpress.com | 22:57 |
| _MMA_ | http://screencasters.heathenx.org | 22:58 |
| kn100 | the breath skin is EPIC WIN! | 23:02 |
| kn100 | i LOVE IT | 23:02 |
| kn100 | include it in 9.10 | 23:02 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: Maybe. But not default. It will at least be in the repos. | 23:03 |
| kn100 | i love the new wine icon | 23:03 |
| kn100 | sound and video icon needs a new one | 23:04 |
| _MMA_ | Like I said, WIP. | 23:04 |
| kn100 | yeah | 23:04 |
| kn100 | great so far though | 23:04 |
| kn100 | amazing how good quality you guys aim for | 23:04 |
| kn100 | considering you do it for free | 23:04 |
| _MMA_ | If you can't do it right, don't do it at all. (even for free) | 23:06 |
| kn100 | hehe | 23:07 |
| kn100 | massive props though | 23:07 |
| psyke83 | hey | 23:07 |
| dashua | psyke83: Heya, wb. :) | 23:08 |
| _MMA_ | +1 | 23:08 |
| psyke83 | hey guys and gals ;) | 23:08 |
| kn100 | hey psyke | 23:08 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: I need you to fix this theme, and that theme. Oh, and this other one! Get to work!!! | 23:08 |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, f**k you :P... oh wait, I mean yessir | 23:09 |
| psyke83 | ;) | 23:09 |
| _MMA_ | hahahahhahahahaa | 23:09 |
| psyke83 | take a look: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1168984 | 23:09 |
| * _MMA_ clicks | 23:09 | |
| psyke83 | the visual changes I like, but that doesn't matter. The gtkrc code is a lot cleaner now | 23:10 |
| psyke83 | smaller, too | 23:10 |
| _MMA_ | Nice. | 23:10 |
| * _MMA_ has stepped down from Studio and hopes they find someone to take over the art. | 23:11 | |
| psyke83 | keep looking, a-hole ;). I may help fix up the ubuntustudio theme, but that's the extent of my charity :) | 23:12 |
| psyke83 | I have to get a real job too :P | 23:12 |
| _MMA_ | I got one. Though, I had to go 307miles to do it. | 23:12 |
| * _MMA_ is currently working in another state. Away from his family. | 23:12 | |
| psyke83 | wow, what was it? I recall you saying something about welding? | 23:12 |
| psyke83 | *is it | 23:13 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: Yeah. Back as a contract worker at my old job in my home state. maybe 3 months work. Maybe longer. Should net 10k take-home. | 23:13 |
| _MMA_ | Working 60hrs a week. | 23:13 |
| _MMA_ | I see the fam every couple of weeks. | 23:14 |
| psyke83 | well not seeing your family sucks, but at least you're working... there are lots of layoffs there, and here too | 23:14 |
| _MMA_ | Yeah. The $ will help alot. Paying some bills. Buying a fence and some toys. | 23:15 |
| * _MMA_ is totally getting a triple monitor setup and a Wii. (the latter mostly for the fam) | 23:16 | |
| kn100 | lucky you | 23:16 |
| kn100 | a triple monitor setup | 23:16 |
| kn100 | what size? | 23:16 |
| _MMA_ | 20"/24"/20" | 23:17 |
| kn100 | nice | 23:17 |
| * _MMA_ has this now though: http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4030/dscf5024resizedxf1.jpg | 23:17 | |
| psyke83 | I have the same dell keyboard right now | 23:18 |
| psyke83 | ;) | 23:19 |
| kn100 | whats with the mouse? | 23:19 |
| _MMA_ | I got 2 given to me. I liked the shape. | 23:19 |
| _MMA_ | Older Logitech trackball. | 23:19 |
| kn100 | you use trackballs? | 23:20 |
| _MMA_ | And a Wacom. | 23:20 |
| _MMA_ | (sitting behind the LCDs on the right) | 23:20 |
| kn100 | i really need a bigger monitor | 23:21 |
| kn100 | currently working on a 15" | 23:21 |
| geek_ubuntu | 17 crt | 23:21 |
| geek_ubuntu | and i have an Nvidia 8800 GTS | 23:21 |
| _MMA_ | 23/24s are getting damn cheap. | 23:21 |
| kn100 | 19" are really cheap | 23:22 |
| kn100 | i can get decent 19" for like 50 | 23:22 |
| knome | kn100, varies what people find "decent" | 23:25 |
| kn100 | they are really good | 23:26 |
| kn100 | hanns-g ones | 23:26 |
| knome | never heard. | 23:26 |
| kn100 | theres no bleed and colour reproduction is good | 23:26 |
| knome | i'm running 2x24" widescreens | 23:27 |
| _MMA_ | knome: I did 2 for years but that middle bezel finally drove me nuts. | 23:28 |
| knome | _MMA_, hehe. :) i can see. | 23:28 |
| knome | i just ignore it | 23:28 |
| knome | and notice working on one monitor a lot | 23:28 |
| knome | and then changing for the other to do something else | 23:29 |
| kn100 | lucky people | 23:29 |
| knome | but that works relatively well | 23:29 |
| kn100 | this 15 incher is driving me mad | 23:29 |
| _MMA_ | Games get the worst. The tri-setup I think is gonna be sweet. Im gettin' 2 refurbed 20"s that match my 24". | 23:29 |
| knome | hihi | 23:29 |
| kn100 | how much for? | 23:30 |
| _MMA_ | Though, there are some hacks/tricks to get Compix working over 2 cards. | 23:30 |
| _MMA_ | kn100: $340 | 23:31 |
| kn100 | wow thats bad price | 23:32 |
| kn100 | are they like top quality or something? | 23:32 |
| _MMA_ | *Very* specific monitors. Lots of features. Guaranteed no dead pixels. | 23:33 |
| kn100 | these are guarenteed no dead pixels for an extra £30 | 23:33 |
| kn100 | http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/20%22+Belinea+Widescreen+LCD+TFT+Monitor+?productId=35245 | 23:33 |
| _MMA_ | Like my 24" Dell, I can plug damn-near any feed into it. | 23:33 |
| kn100 | fair enough | 23:34 |
| _MMA_ | Oh. $325. Free shipping. http://tiny.cc/Sw8D0 | 23:35 |
| kn100 | very nice | 23:36 |
| kn100 | YAY! | 23:36 |
| kn100 | I got itunes in ubuntu | 23:36 |
| kn100 | (not that i use itunes, i just took it as a personal challenge | 23:38 |
| Viper550 | I noticed the new Air plasma theme on 4.3 has a somewhat ugly fallback | 23:40 |
| * _MMA_ wished more Kubuntu folks were active here but Kubuntu mostly uses upstream KDE. | 23:45 | |
| Viper550 | yeah... | 23:45 |
| kn100 | eww kde | 23:45 |
| kn100 | lol | 23:45 |
| kn100 | hey with wine is there any way to change the icon a wine program displays in the notification bar? | 23:47 |
| * _MMA_ is unsure | 23:48 | |
| psyke83 | kn100, you'd have to hack the exe with a windows reshacker | 23:49 |
| psyke83 | (and insert the new icon) | 23:49 |
| kn100 | will try that | 23:49 |
| kn100 | resource hacker should do it i ugess | 23:49 |
| kn100 | i guess | 23:49 |
| kn100 | thank the good lord for wine | 23:50 |
| kn100 | this file has a nonstandard resourse layout | 23:51 |
| kn100 | lol | 23:51 |
| kn100 | any other ideas | 23:52 |
| _MMA_ | Ok. I'll comment. Can't help it. (take with a grain of salt) ;) There's nothing I can't do in linux that I once did in windows. WINE is only good for things you *want* to use. | 23:52 |
| kn100 | i love wine | 23:52 |
| psyke83 | kn100: just grab the source, patch and recom... oh sorry, my bad :P | 23:52 |
| kn100 | it runs so many things so well | 23:52 |
| kn100 | i know | 23:52 |
| kn100 | thats the sad thing :) | 23:52 |
| kn100 | the reason i want to change is because... | 23:53 |
| kn100 | getting screeny | 23:53 |
| kn100 | http://i44.tinypic.com/23uzsr6.png | 23:53 |
| kn100 | look at the spotify icon in the notification bar | 23:54 |
| kn100 | compared to my other icons its patheti | 23:54 |
| psyke83 | kn100: is it due to the panel size, perhaps? Maybe it's all jagged because it can't display the native size | 23:55 |
| kn100 | my panel size is the smallest it to go | 23:55 |
| kn100 | making it larger doesnt change it | 23:55 |
| kn100 | its because windows sucks lol | 23:55 |
| _MMA_ | Right tool for the job. Whatever the OS. | 23:56 |
| kn100 | what? | 23:56 |
| kn100 | the format tool in windows? | 23:57 |
| _MMA_ | It was a comment on your "windows sux" line. | 23:57 |
| kn100 | hehe | 23:58 |
| kn100 | the one thing windows got right was gaming support | 23:58 |
| kn100 | its just so epicly good | 23:58 |
| _MMA_ | Not really. It's the dominant OS. Development will go there because it's the biggest user share. | 23:59 |
| kn100 | yeah | 23:59 |
| kn100 | but directx vs opengl | 23:59 |
| kn100 | directx is so well done | 23:59 |
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