[04:01] <wombo> Just wondering if someone can help me with my tuner problem?
[04:02] <wombo> I have been away for month or so working, I can but and ran an update and **pow** it doesnt get a lock anymore
[04:02] <wombo> They are 2 Dvico Dual Digital 4's
[04:03] <wombo> I have downloaded and complied the latest V4L tree and now it is just spamming the following over and over
[04:03] <wombo> DVB-USB: bulk message failed: -110
[04:03] <wombo> CXUSB: i2c read failed
[04:03] <wombo> any ideas?
[06:05] <stevecam> hey
[06:05] <stevecam> im trying to figure out why MythTV wont scan or import any channels, but VLC will view them just fine
[06:10] <blz> Is it safe to upgrade from Mythbuntu 8.10 to Mythbuntu 9.04?
[07:09] <MythbuntuGuest10> I'm new to Linux on a whole, and I just started looking at MythTV. I'm wondering if I can use it to connect to a Windows Home Server to watch XVid movies and listen to music. I would like to only use the frontend of MythTV.
[07:11] <hads> There's not a lot of point. The main feature of mythtv is it's recording backend.
[07:11] <hads> But yes, using mythvideo you can watch videos.
[07:12] <MythbuntuGuest10> since I'm not really interested in recording currently (I already have 4 other DVR's in my house) is there another program that would be a better fit
[07:12] <hads> Probably
[07:13] <hads> I don't know what it is though.
[07:14] <MythbuntuGuest10> ok, is there a howto for just using the frontend ?
[07:26] <blz> Does anybody know the system requirements for minimyth?
[07:35] <MythbuntuGuest10> I'm trying to use the LiveCD of Mythbuntu and it does not want to start, I think it has something to do with not using the backend. Is there anyway to get around using the backend ???
[07:37] <MythbuntuGuest10> Blz, here's a web site to tell u the requirements...http://www.minimyth.org/document-hardware.html
[07:37] <blz> MythbuntuGuest10:  If you don't use the backend, you can't record livetv and do a bunch of other things
[07:38] <blz> Also, the liveCD s houldn't be dependent on the backend
[07:38] <blz> unless you're trying to run a frontend machine from a livecd, which is some serious lolwut
[07:38] <MythbuntuGuest10> I only really want to watch video's and listen to music on my own server. I just like the interface
[16:45] <williammanda> gm
[16:48] <williammanda> I can not watch live tv.....
[16:48] <williammanda> it worked after the install but for some reason it quit functioning
[16:49] <williammanda> I egt this error from the frontend log....
[16:49] <williammanda> GetEntryAt(-1) failed.
[16:49] <tgm4883> !logs | williammanda
[16:49] <williammanda> EntryToProgram(0@Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969) failed to get pginfo
[16:49] <Zinn> williammanda: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[16:51] <williammanda> http://pastebin.com/m7fdc21a7
[16:53] <tgm4883> williammanda, sorry, don't know much about that error.  I was actually looking for your backend logs to see if they indicated something different
[16:53] <williammanda> well I got it to work by deleting the tuners
[16:54] <williammanda> it worked ok for an hour then it started again
[16:54] <williammanda> I will post backend log
[17:02] <williammanda> http://pastebin.com/m157804af
[17:02] <williammanda> sorry
[17:02] <williammanda> file was too large
[17:02] <williammanda> for pastebin
[17:11] <williammanda> from what I read on ubuntu forums....
[17:11] <williammanda> it could be alot of things
[17:11] <williammanda> permissions, onwer, backend not connected, etc....
[17:12] <williammanda> I use comcast....they don't supply much channel info....
[17:12] <williammanda> I have a 3 hour deal to load the channel info each time I install
[17:15] <stevecam> is there a common proble  with mythtv that it has problems scanning and importing channels
[17:15] <stevecam> i can generate a channels.conf and open with VLC just fine
[17:15] <williammanda> that's not a problem for me
[17:16] <williammanda> how do you generate the channels.conf?
[17:18] <williammanda> comcast gives very little channel info
[17:18] <stevecam> scan /usr/share/dvb/dvb-t/au-Melbourne >> channels.conf
[17:20] <stevecam> am i doing it right?
[17:20] <williammanda> not sure...I'm not up on vlc
[17:21] <stevecam> how did you get your channels in MythTV, using the EIT scanner?
[17:21] <williammanda> tgm4883, any luck with the backend info?
[17:22] <williammanda> I'm not sure if I use the EIT scanner.....
[17:23] <stevecam> i wish my MythTV would work :-(
[17:23] <williammanda> mythtv scans basic cable for me.....
[17:23] <williammanda> scans transponders for channels
[17:39] <williammanda> tgm4883, is there a way to output the existing scanned channel on myth to a channels.conf file?
[17:45]  * stevecam increased the timeout
[19:31] <tgm4883> williammanda, sorry stepped out for a bit
[19:31] <tgm4883> is that the tail end of your backend log file?
[19:32] <williammanda> yes...just posted after the last restart
[19:32] <tgm4883> ok
[19:32] <tgm4883> backend logs (well all logs) can be rather large
[19:32] <tgm4883> thats why we made the log grabber utility
[19:32] <tgm4883> unfortunatly I don't see any errors though
[19:33] <williammanda> fyi this log is from the master backend with pchdtv 5000 & dvico hdtv gold pcie
[19:33] <williammanda> the slave backend works fine
[19:33] <tgm4883> ok
[19:34] <williammanda> I loaded 9.04 and started entering data in the frontend for channels...
[19:34] <williammanda> exited nythtv....entered mythtv again....could watch libe tv
[19:34] <williammanda> live
[19:34] <tgm4883> so there is 4 hours of backend logs there, and the problem occured durinng that time?
[19:35] <tgm4883> williammanda, wait so it works now?
[19:35] <williammanda> not on the master backend
[19:36] <williammanda> sorry typo couldn't
[19:36] <williammanda> let me get the error now and post both back & frontend logs
[19:36] <williammanda> hold on
[19:36] <tgm4883> ok, so let me see if I have this setup correct.  You have a master backend and a slave backend.  You can watch shows from the slave but not the master
[19:36] <tgm4883> right?
[19:37] <williammanda> yes
[19:37] <tgm4883> where is the frontend in this situation?
[19:37] <tgm4883> is it on one of those machines?  or is it for all frontends that it doesn't work?
[19:37] <williammanda> both frontends are local to the backends
[19:38] <tgm4883> ok, and you can't watch video from the master backend on either frontend?
[19:38] <williammanda> master backend & frontend - watch live tv - not working
[19:38] <williammanda> slave backend & frontend - watch live tv - working
[19:39] <tgm4883> ok, what happens if you go to the master backend & frontend and try to watch video from the slave backend?
[19:39] <tgm4883> or if you go to the slave frontend & backend and try to watch video from the master backend?
[19:39] <williammanda> it won't let me on live tv to switch inputs
[19:39] <williammanda> sorry wait
[19:40] <williammanda> hold on...I will test
[19:42] <williammanda> ok
[19:42] <williammanda> from the slave backend & front end...
[19:43] <williammanda> I can use both tuners on the master backend
[19:43] <williammanda> watching live tv
[19:45] <tgm4883> williammanda, ok, what about using the slave tuners from the master backend/frontend?
[19:45] <williammanda> I can watch live tv from the master backend
[19:46] <williammanda>  & frontend
[19:46] <williammanda> I can't
[19:46] <tgm4883> ok
[19:46] <tgm4883> so it does seem like a problem with the frontend on the master backend/frontend then
[19:47] <williammanda> yes
[19:47] <tgm4883> what versions of mythtv are you using on your master and slave systems?
[19:47] <williammanda> 9.04 muthbuntu
[19:48] <tgm4883> sorry, do a "dpkg -l mythtv-frontend"
[19:48] <tgm4883> looking for something like "0.21.0+fixes20455"
[19:48] <tgm4883> do it for mythtv-backend too
[19:49] <williammanda> http://pastebin.com/m65075456
[19:50] <tgm4883> 2 things.  1) can you widen your terminal so I can see the full version number
[19:50] <tgm4883> 2)  can you do that for both master and slave systems
[19:52] <williammanda> http://pastebin.com/m57e78850
[19:54] <tgm4883> williammanda, is that your master or slave system?
[19:55] <williammanda> master
[19:55] <tgm4883> ok, can you do it on your slave toO?
[19:55] <williammanda> k
[20:01] <williammanda> http://pastebin.com/m30bdb458           slave backend
[20:03] <tgm4883> hmm, welll that looks fine
[20:03] <tgm4883> can you get it to error out again and give the logs again
[20:04] <williammanda> fyi...this how I installed....
[20:05] <williammanda> load ubuntu 9.04 then add mythbuntu control center.....this is why
[20:05] <williammanda> when I loaded mythbuntu cd and changed desktops to gnome....
[20:06] <williammanda> it black out the remote desktop setup in preferences
[20:07] <williammanda> I will re-create the error and send logs
[20:09] <williammanda> http://pastebin.com/m3a42c515   frontend log
[20:09] <williammanda> http://pastebin.com/m6423a554    backend log
[20:12] <williammanda> the error at the end of the backend log...
[20:13] <williammanda> is from me removing some videos from the master backend recordings folder....
[20:14] <tgm4883> ok
[20:14] <williammanda> I was just about to re-install.....but I thought I would give you a try first
[20:16] <tgm4883> hmm
[20:16] <tgm4883> i'm not finding a whole lot of concrete info about this error
[20:16] <tgm4883> what is your source for tv?  cable, satellite, antenna?
[20:17] <williammanda> comcast cable
[20:17] <tgm4883> ok
[20:17] <williammanda> I have never had this problem before ....during the last 3 yrs
[20:18] <tgm4883> and is it just live tv that doesn't work, or is it also recorded content?
[20:18] <williammanda> just live tv.....recorded tv and videos work
[20:20] <williammanda> Like I said earlier...
[20:20] <williammanda> when this happened the first time.....after much research I decided to del all the tuners...
[20:21] <williammanda> created news ones and every frontend worked with live tv....
[20:21] <williammanda> within an hour the problem came back on the master front/back end
[20:21] <tgm4883> and nothing else changed in that hour?
[20:21] <williammanda> nope
[20:22] <williammanda> should I do this again?
[20:22] <tgm4883> how old is the DB?
[20:22] <williammanda> db = database?
[20:22] <tgm4883> yea
[20:23] <williammanda> 12 hours maybe
[20:23] <williammanda> sorry...
[20:23] <williammanda> since I installed the new tuners
[20:23] <williammanda> initial os install was 24 hr ago
[20:23] <tgm4883> how old total?
[20:23] <tgm4883> and how old is the system?
[20:24] <tgm4883> is it a new DB or did you restore it from an older time?
[20:24] <williammanda> computer is a core 2 quad 9300...1 year old
[20:24] <williammanda> clean install
[20:25] <tgm4883> SEC
[20:25] <tgm4883> sorry
[20:25] <tgm4883> sec
[20:28] <tgm4883> williammanda, ok, just to verify, you CAN use your slave frontend to watch live TV using the tuners from your MASTER backend?
[20:29] <williammanda> yes
[20:30] <tgm4883> how do you get your program guide data?
[20:32] <williammanda> schedules direct
[20:32] <tgm4883> ok
[20:33] <tgm4883> do your recording schedules that use tuners from your master backend still work?
[20:33] <williammanda> yes
[20:34] <williammanda> one is recording now
[20:34] <tgm4883> and the show is viewable?
[20:35] <tgm4883> ie, it's not just a black recording or a recording with a size of 0
[20:35] <williammanda> it is viewable through watch recorded shows....
[20:36] <tgm4883> ok
[20:37] <williammanda> basically I can do everything but view live tv
[20:37] <tgm4883> ok
[20:37] <williammanda> on the master back/front end
[20:37] <tgm4883> what storage groups do you have setup?
[20:38] <williammanda> standard....used default
[20:38] <tgm4883> do you have a live tv storage group?
[20:39] <williammanda> no....I don't edit that ....just use the default
[20:40] <tgm4883> do you have guide data for all your channels?
[20:40] <williammanda> except for 2 -3 channels
[20:41] <williammanda> the tuners are set to a good channel....initial channel
[20:42] <tgm4883> sorry, i'm stumped then.
[20:42] <williammanda> me too.....
[20:42] <williammanda> I don't want to re-install and get the same problem...
[20:42] <williammanda> the channel data is a killer
[20:43] <williammanda> is there anything in the db that we could loo at?
[20:43] <williammanda> look
[20:43] <tgm4883> it's strange, cause you say it can record from those tuners just fine, just not watch live tv
[20:44] <williammanda> could you tell me how to safely look at the db?
[20:44] <tgm4883> and live tv VS recorded content isn't really that different
[20:44] <williammanda> yes I agree
[20:44] <tgm4883> you could use phpmyadmin to browse through the db
[20:44] <williammanda> is that loaded?
[20:44] <tgm4883> and there really isn't any reason that it would work for a while then just stop working
[20:45] <tgm4883> and if you redo the tuners, it works for a while again
[20:46] <williammanda> I just loaded php.....web server to reconfigure auto? 2 options ...apache2 ....lighttpd? which?
[20:46] <tgm4883> apache2
[20:49] <williammanda> command to start php?
[20:50] <tgm4883> in a web browser, go to http://backendip/phpmyadmin
[20:51] <williammanda> username and password?
[20:53] <tgm4883> root, and whatever you set for your root password for mysql
[20:53] <tgm4883> IIRC, default is blank
[20:53] <williammanda> I didn't set a password fro mysql
[20:53] <williammanda> IIRC?
[20:54] <tgm4883> if I recall correctly
[20:54] <williammanda> ty
[20:54] <williammanda> access denied
[20:55] <williammanda> using root & no password
[20:55] <tgm4883> well then you must have set a password during install?
[20:56] <williammanda> I never do...I select enter not toduring setup
[20:56] <williammanda> how can I find out?
[20:57] <tgm4883> I suppose try your mythtv password
[20:57] <tgm4883> you can find that in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[20:57] <tgm4883> if that password doesn't work
[20:57] <tgm4883> !mysql | williammanda
[20:57] <Zinn> williammanda: If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, you can perform the following to reconfigure it: 1. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it for the next step) 2. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database 3. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[20:58] <williammanda> ok....mythtv & mythtv password worked
[21:00] <williammanda> ok logically....if del the tuners fixed sonething....wouldn't that be the first area to look at?
[21:01] <williammanda> channels, input card?
[21:03] <williammanda> something strange....
[21:04] <williammanda> looking at cardinput....
[21:04] <williammanda> I have 3 tunes each setup with 3 channels....
[21:05] <williammanda> so 9 inputs total
[21:05] <tgm4883> are you using multirec?
[21:06] <williammanda> the first tuner's startchan is 434 434 433....
[21:06] <williammanda> 3rd tuner's startchan is 432 432 434
[21:06] <williammanda> second tuner is startchan 434 434 434
[21:07] <williammanda> multirec?
[21:07] <williammanda> yes record up 3 channels?
[21:07] <tgm4883> ok
[21:07] <williammanda> why is the start channel not the same across the tuner?
[21:09] <tgm4883> hmm
[21:09] <tgm4883> it should only be a single channel
[21:09] <tgm4883> not 3
[21:10] <williammanda> how can I send this to you?
[21:11] <tgm4883> just do a screenshot and put it on imagebin
[21:11] <williammanda> k
[21:14] <williammanda> http://imagebin.org/50185
[21:16] <tgm4883> thats not the starting channels
[21:16] <williammanda> http://imagebin.org/50186
[21:16] <williammanda> sorry....sent 2nd photo 1st
[21:18] <tgm4883> ok, and i'll assume that you do have unencrypted channels up around 434
[21:19] <williammanda> yes these are hdtv ...cbs, nbc, etc...
[21:20] <williammanda> can I change this?
[21:21] <tgm4883> no it's fine
[21:22] <tgm4883> ok try this
[21:22] <tgm4883> is anything recording at the moment?
[21:23] <williammanda> no
[21:24] <tgm4883> ok, and you have channel data for 432, 433, and 434?
[21:24] <williammanda> y
[21:24] <tgm4883> ok, try the live tv and see if it bugs out
[21:25] <williammanda> master frontend?
[21:25] <tgm4883> yep
[21:25] <williammanda> y it does
[21:25] <tgm4883> it bugs out, ok
[21:26] <tgm4883> how did you determine which channels you have?  Did you do a scan, or did you import from Schedules direct?
[21:27] <williammanda> mythtv scan.....viewed on master backend with frontend edit and entered channel data
[21:29] <tgm4883> everything appears to be fine, I guess try removing the tuners again, note which channel they are set to by default.  If it happens again we can retry to set the starting channel
[21:30] <williammanda> can't we chabge the start chan now?
[21:30] <tgm4883> you can, but i'd like a known working channel
[21:30] <tgm4883> doesn't hurt to try first though I guess
[21:30] <williammanda> change it in myth or db?
[21:31] <tgm4883> i'd change it in myth
[21:31] <williammanda> k hold on
[21:31] <tgm4883> maybe it doesn't like quicktune either
[21:36] <williammanda> http://imagebin.org/50187
[21:37] <williammanda> didn't help
[21:37] <williammanda> quicktune?
[21:38] <tgm4883> yea you have quicktune turned on for your tuners
[21:38] <tgm4883> you can set that to 0 or turn it off in mythtv-setup
[21:39] <williammanda> should I?
[21:39] <tgm4883> worth a shot
[21:40] <williammanda> k
[21:41] <williammanda> no change
[21:41] <tgm4883> alright I suggest removing them and reinstalling then
[21:42] <williammanda> k
[21:49] <williammanda> ok here's what happened....
[21:49] <williammanda> removed all tuners....
[21:49] <williammanda> installed both tuners on MB/FE
[21:49] <williammanda> tested and they worked
[21:50] <williammanda> installed tuner on SB/FE and tested MB/FE tuners worked OK
[21:50] <williammanda> needed to restart MB so SB tuner would work and
[21:51] <williammanda> I tried MB/FE and the problem is back
[21:53] <williammanda> I remember now...this is the same steps I took but I didn't try the MB/FE until an hour later
[21:53] <williammanda> the second test
[21:54] <williammanda> so maybe I need to just remove all tuners and only install the MB/FE and see if it works after restarting the MB/FE
[22:02] <williammanda> removed all tuners....
[22:03] <williammanda> installed both tuners on MB/FE
[22:03] <williammanda> tested and they worked 5 times.....opened and closed myhtv and selected both tuners
[22:04] <williammanda> restarted MB/FE...
[22:04] <williammanda> tested MB/FE tuners and the are still working
[22:05] <williammanda> so at this point...MB/FE is working OK so far
[22:05] <williammanda> now I will go and install SB/FE tuner and test MB/FE tuner before restarting MB/FE
[22:07] <robride> I hope somebody can help me with getting the tv card to work, the ivtv drivers say they are loaded and the test.mpg works but no front end will pick up the tv card.  I have a pvr150mce.  also I am pretty new to linux so bear with me, TIA
[22:14] <williammanda> OK solved....
[22:14] <williammanda> I changed one thing.....
[22:15] <williammanda> the SB/FE....in the BE setup.....local backend ip address was 127.0.0.1....
[22:15] <williammanda> I changed it to the ip address and the MB/FE works fine now
[22:16] <williammanda> thanks tgm4883
[22:16] <tgm4883> williammanda, so it all works now?
[22:16] <williammanda> robride please provide more info on your system
[22:16] <williammanda> yes tgm4883
[22:16] <tgm4883> williammanda, thats great, I hope it stays that way
[22:17] <williammanda> why would that fix it?
[22:17] <robride> such as
[22:17] <robride> ?
[22:17] <williammanda> your os, what equipment you
[22:17] <robride> ok
[22:17] <tgm4883> robride, how did you set the card up in mythtv-setup?
[22:17] <williammanda> version, etc....
[22:18] <robride> jaunty
[22:18] <tgm4883> williammanda, well the ip should be the actual one, not the localhost one
[22:18] <tgm4883> i'm not sure why that worked without it
[22:18] <robride> tried to set up
[22:20] <williammanda> tgm4883, when yo get a chance...one more problem...intel video
[22:22] <williammanda> xorg.conf setup issue
[22:29] <Technophil> Hi guys, does anyone know how we can stream to mplayer from the DVB-T HDHomerun?
[22:32] <Technophil> I can't get udp://@:1234 to work
[22:52] <dgs_> i've got a phillip's Full HD TV that I've been running at 1280x720 and it the gui looks pretty nice (in terms of fonts etc). I've just been playing with pushing the video up to 1920x1080 which the tv seems to handle fine, however the fonts become noticeably jagged. movies etc look fine - it's just the myth gui that affected. anyone know what could cause this?
[23:16] <williammanda> dgs_, is this the native resolution of the tv?
[23:16] <dgs_> williammanda, native res should be 1920x1080 i assume.
[23:17] <williammanda> look at your Xorg. log file and see what is going on...resolution and dpi setting
[23:17] <williammanda> are yo using nvidia driver?
[23:17] <dgs_> yup nvidia
[23:18] <dgs_> hmm. maybe it's not running at 1920: 88 (WW) NVIDIA(0): The EDID for Philips 1080p TV (3) (DFP-0) contradicts itself:
[23:18] <dgs_>   389 (WW) NVIDIA(0):     mode "1920x1080" is specified in the EDID; however, the
[23:18] <dgs_>   390 (WW) NVIDIA(0):     EDID's valid HorizSync range (31.000-80.000 kHz) would
[23:18] <dgs_>   391 (WW) NVIDIA(0):     exclude this mode's HorizSync (28.1 kHz); ignoring
[23:19] <williammanda> find out what the dpi is set to
[23:19] <dgs_> oh, (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes:
[23:19] <dgs_>   500 (II) NVIDIA(0):     "1920x1080+0+0"
[23:19] <dgs_>   501 (**) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size configured to be 1920 x 1200
[23:19] <dgs_> that 1920x1200 would be messing things up right?
[23:19] <williammanda> open nvidia setting or look at the xorg file
[23:20] <williammanda> you want the native resolution...best
[23:21] <dgs_> yeah, odd that - not sure where it would have come from
[23:21] <dgs_> i'll drop it back to 1080 and see what sort of difference it makes
[23:21] <williammanda> what os are you running?
[23:21] <dgs_> mythbuntu
[23:22] <williammanda> system-admin-nvidia server settings....
[23:22] <williammanda> select x screen....what is the dpi?
[23:22] <williammanda> you can also chnage the resolution here too
[23:23] <dgs_> dgs@mythbox:~$ system-admin-nvidia server settings
[23:23] <dgs_> -bash: system-admin-nvidia: command not found
[23:23] <dgs_> nvidia-settings is working, but doesn't seem to contain much
[23:24] <williammanda> ver of mythbuntu?
[23:24] <dgs_> 9.04 in theory
[23:24] <dgs_> just ran a dist-upgrade a few days ago
[23:24] <williammanda> that wasn't a command....it was directions to select nvidia from the menu
[23:24] <dgs_> which seems to have worked, but seems just like the version i had before =P
[23:24] <dgs_> oh :p
[23:25] <williammanda> are you running xfce?
[23:25] <williammanda> gnome?
[23:25] <dgs_> right, i'm gonna have to have to that at the pc (rather that via x forwarding)
[23:25] <dgs_> yup, xfce
[23:26] <williammanda> nvidia is at the botoom of the menu then
[23:26] <dgs_> which will need to wait til the tv is not being used - I'll have a play and see if changing that 1200 -> 1080 helps
[23:26] <dgs_> cheers for your help =)