| Myrtti | !search fix | 00:00 |
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| ubottu | Found: aptfix, xorg.conf, fixapt, emerald, adeptcrashfix, adept fix, fixres, ttyerror, exploit, questions-#ubuntu-classroom-chat | 00:00 |
| Seeker` | no floodbots? | 00:02 |
| ubottu | nightrid3r called the ops in #ubuntu (sdfahlsdjkfh) | 00:05 |
| bazhang | already banned by floodbot, and quit | 00:06 |
| Seeker` | yeah | 00:06 |
| Seeker` | why didn't the floodbots catch the earlier DCCs? | 00:07 |
| bazhang | talk about lag.. | 00:07 |
| Seeker` | i'm on a laggy net connection | 00:07 |
| Seeker` | there is about 2 seconds between me hitting a key and it appearing in irssi | 00:07 |
| bazhang | whoa | 00:07 |
| Seeker` | so any typos are because I can't see what i am typing | 00:07 |
| Seeker` | and I have often finished typing the sentenace and hit enter before the text appears on the screen | 00:07 |
| bazhang | *yikes* | 00:07 |
| bazhang | that is serious lag | 00:08 |
| bazhang | * [Shockrates] (n=Shockrat@79.107.185.162): purple trolling and #megworld seem to often collide | 00:39 |
| ubottu | erUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu (Shockrates) | 00:40 |
| ikonia | bazhang: #megworld is one of the sebsebseb run channels | 00:40 |
| bazhang | ikonia, aha | 00:40 |
| bazhang | shockrates was k'd, then returned for more | 00:40 |
| ikonia | I'll check this out a little more know | 00:40 |
| ikonia | well well, it also has mr_bo_jangles in there | 00:41 |
| ikonia | and floryn | 00:41 |
| ikonia | so another troll pit | 00:41 |
| bazhang | whoa/yikes | 00:42 |
| ikonia | yup http://paste.ubuntu.com/179154/ | 00:50 |
| ikonia | troll pit | 00:50 |
| ikonia | sebsebseb and his mates play stupid little games | 00:51 |
| bazhang | holy cow! | 00:51 |
| ikonia | it's not that bad, it's just stupid kids playing stupid games | 00:51 |
| ikonia | they have just been kicked out of ##windows | 00:51 |
| bazhang | didnt think sebsebseb would go that low | 00:52 |
| ikonia | 00:51 < Shockrates> classic prank | 00:52 |
| ikonia | 00:52 < Shockrates> i pulled it on ubuntu guys | 00:52 |
| bazhang | 'who's a pron expert here' or something to that effect when he entered the channel | 00:53 |
| ikonia | keep an out, he's kit #gentoo #skype #fedora ##windows (banned from a few) stating he'll be back under a different IP/nick shortly | 01:03 |
| ikonia | he's still online but in no channels | 01:03 |
| ikonia | @79.107.185.162 is his current ip from @79.107.185.162 | 01:03 |
| ikonia | oops | 01:03 |
| ikonia | TELLAS Telecommunication Services S.A. | 01:03 |
| ikonia | online as LabYrintH | 01:04 |
| ikonia | just changed nick | 01:04 |
| bazhang | dont know how you do that :) | 01:05 |
| ikonia | what ? | 01:05 |
| bazhang | cyber-sleuthing | 01:05 |
| ikonia | now viol1nist | 01:05 |
| Seeker` | ikonia: you are in the channe? | 01:07 |
| ikonia | yes, I joined after seeing all the usual suspects in it | 01:08 |
| Seeker` | can someone have a look at harri_ in #u? lastlog looks a bit weird to me | 01:36 |
| mindrape | pici - and that ban was for... ? | 02:11 |
| mindrape | let me guess... requested by elky? | 02:11 |
| Pici | mindrape: No? | 02:12 |
| Pici | mindrape: It was in regards to the ban set on the 17th that was not lifted. | 02:12 |
| mindrape | and what was that ban for? | 02:12 |
| Pici | mindrape: That was the one originally set for your choice of nick. | 02:12 |
| mindrape | and how on earth did I get back in if it wasn't lifted? | 02:12 |
| Seeker` | you got a cloak | 02:12 |
| Pici | mindrape: Because you were not sporting this cloak when you were banned. | 02:13 |
| Seeker` | the ban was set on your hostmask | 02:13 |
| mindrape | I've had this cloak for ages. | 02:13 |
| Pici | Then you werent identified when you were banned. | 02:13 |
| mindrape | ah, so it was elky... imagine that. | 02:13 |
| mindrape | lol | 02:13 |
| Seeker` | no, it wasn't elky | 02:13 |
| Pici | I'm not sure why you think that... | 02:13 |
| mindrape | yes, yes it was. | 02:13 |
| mindrape | it's obvious... but I'll let you be lame about it anyhow. I've discussed this in detail and plenty of other ops felt this wasnt an issue. | 02:14 |
| mindrape | I have my complaint in... hopefully somebody sets you all straight and gets some level-headed people in here soon. | 02:14 |
| mindrape | in the meantime... | 02:14 |
| LjL | ban evasion aside - he was banned for having "mindrape" as a nick? | 02:25 |
| Pici | Yes. Its been brought up to the IRCC for appeals. | 02:25 |
| LjL | you better not make it go to the CC, by my reckoning. | 02:25 |
| Seeker` | I dont have a particular problem with him being there under a different nick | 02:28 |
| LjL | i don't have a particular problem with him being there under his nick | 02:28 |
| Seeker` | other ops have expressed a dislie for the nickname | 02:29 |
| LjL | yeah, i don't particularly like many people nicknames either, sometimes they're just long, other times the initial clash with nicks i tab complete often | 02:30 |
| LjL | hell sometimes they even started with "lj" or "ljl", which gets so horribly much on my nerves | 02:30 |
| elky | LjL, he gets banned because when asked to change his nick, he calls the op pathetic or some other insult and requests to be banned. | 02:32 |
| LjL | that's fair enough, not a good attitude. i don't really believe he should be asked to change his nickname for a start, though. | 02:35 |
| elky | and he's waging a personal war against me currently because i banned him under similar circumstances in 2007, and sent him a solitary un-responded-to message that it would be distressing to victims. | 02:35 |
| bazhang | its a disturbing nick to say the very least. repugnant even. perhaps falls under coc | 02:36 |
| elky | LjL, i once knew a victim who had panic attacks through flashbacks whenever she read of it. | 02:36 |
| elky | so to trivialise it is really not a smart thing. | 02:37 |
| bazhang | the fact that he refuses to bend at all, in sensitivity to others seems to be the sticking point | 02:38 |
| LjL | yes well i might have panic attacks when i see the word "apple" because i was raped by someone who was eating an apple but that doesn't make it an unjustifiable nick, you can check merriam-webster for the "archaic", generic definition of "rape" ("to seize and take away by force") which is clearly being used in this compound word | 02:38 |
| LjL | all in all i think if you all stopped dissecting people's nicknames and things like that and actually looked at what happens in #ubuntu instead, the talking-people count wouldn't be going down | 02:38 |
| elky | LjL, it's not 'clearly' at all. | 02:38 |
| elky | LjL, we get complaints about the nickname, so it's not *us* dissecting it in the first place. however this guy has been asked to change for years and is completely dismissive and rude about it. | 02:41 |
| LjL | yes, that's silly of him. if i were him, i'd say "what, the ops of this channels are taking requests to change my nickname seriously? meh, i'd better find a channel that makes sense" | 02:41 |
| elky | his january ban is especially disturbing and not a picture of the angel he claims to be either. | 02:42 |
| LjL | if you listened to everything some people complain about, i'd probably have to change my nickname too. | 02:42 |
| Pici | ... | 02:42 |
| bazhang | one user had a disturbing nick (cant remember what) and was asked to change to more family friendly, so he /nick'd familyfriendly | 02:43 |
| LjL | this "mindrape" fellow might easily be the most obnoxious person in the world, i have no real trouble believing that, just taking his nickname as unacceptable is meh. | 02:44 |
| bazhang | #ubuntu is a shared resource; if some are disturbed by his nick then that should be reason enough to change it. | 02:44 |
| LjL | no. | 02:44 |
| LjL | if someone is disturbed by my nick for some reason, i will not change it. | 02:44 |
| bazhang | and he has been asked very politely to do so, only to be met with hostility | 02:45 |
| bazhang | it's a simple request, and does not put him out at all. | 02:45 |
| elky | LjL, the bottom line is that we are taking due consideration to complaints and forwarding the requests rather than being dismissive. his behaviour in response is what gets him into trouble, not the nick. | 02:46 |
| LjL | you people have all gone completely overboard over petty things (and *under*board on things that actually matter, only kicking people repeatedly or saying "please don't do that" repeatedly when they're being clear spammers), #ubuntu is losing popularity because of that, and that's only obvious. | 02:46 |
| elky | LjL, then leave. | 02:46 |
| LjL | indeed. | 02:46 |
| bazhang | I think its less used because it needs less configuring with better kernels and such. | 02:46 |
| LjL | thank for you making a decent place so sad. i liked it once. | 02:47 |
| Pici | I personally am happy with hearing criticism, but only if its in a constructive fashion. | 02:47 |
| LjL | bye | 02:47 |
| Seeker` | or fix it | 02:47 |
| elky | these tantrums do us no justice. | 02:47 |
| * Pici sighs | 02:47 | |
| bazhang | irc without drama is not irc | 02:47 |
| Seeker` | s/irc/the internets/ | 02:48 |
| bazhang | heh | 02:48 |
| elky | irc should not be where we have to deal with ex-ops who insist on waging the contrarian war against us directly and distracting us from the stuff they accuse us of ignoring. | 02:49 |
| bazhang | he's more than just ex-op | 02:49 |
| Flannel | elky: Just because he's not an op anymore doesn't mean he doesn't have a point. | 02:50 |
| bazhang | not sure why sebsebseb should be allowed in #ubuntu anymore with all the #megworld trollpit behaviour | 02:50 |
| Flannel | bazhang: Because #ubuntu has nothing to do with #megworld? | 02:50 |
| elky | Flannel, he might have a point, but this way of bringing it about is *NOT* helpful at all. nor was your behaviour yesterday. | 02:50 |
| Flannel | Or, I misunderstood that. | 02:50 |
| bazhang | its his channel, and they stage all the raids from there | 02:50 |
| Flannel | bazhang: ah | 02:50 |
| Flannel | elky: If you really care so much, I'll wait for people to leave before telling you that you're "being a dick". Not that there aren't logs or anything. | 02:51 |
| elky | Flannel, your behaviour yesterday led a certain someone to accuse me of banning him. | 02:51 |
| Flannel | elky: No, he was doing that beforehand. | 02:51 |
| elky | Flannel, well how nice of you to clarify that, rather than 'stick it to me' in front of him. | 02:52 |
| Flannel | elky: The fact that he was here had nothing to do with anything. There was a problem, I thought it needed to be dealt with. Just because someone is an op, doesn't mean they aren't held to the same standards our users are. | 02:53 |
| elky | i banned him once 2 years ago, and sent one un-responded-to pm to him yesterday. suddenly i am the evil one. | 02:53 |
| elky | Flannel, you allowed him to go overboard. then helped him along by insulting me. | 02:53 |
| Flannel | elky: Erm, I imagine the "evil one" notion came from the conversation yesterday, not anything to do with me. | 02:53 |
| elky | Flannel, no, i apparently 'repeatedly ban' him. | 02:53 |
| Flannel | *I* allowed him to go overboard? | 02:54 |
| Flannel | how on earth would I allow him to go overboard? | 02:54 |
| elky | well you certainly didnt do anything to stop him. | 02:54 |
| Flannel | Stop him from doing what? Having a conversation where he discussed his point of view? | 02:54 |
| elky | you didnt stop him comparing 'dogmeat' to 'rape' | 02:55 |
| Seeker` | Pici: do you have a problem with me removing mindrapes cloak ban and changing it to nick-only? | 02:55 |
| Flannel | I'm sorry, but if not agreeing 100% with the partyline is so much of a crime, then yes, I'm a criminal. | 02:55 |
| Pici | Seeker`: As long as you include a wildcard at the end in case of mindrape___ ,etc | 02:55 |
| Seeker` | /mode #ubuntu mindrape*!*@* ? | 02:56 |
| Pici | Seeker`: yes | 02:57 |
| Flannel | elky: He was making a valid argument. Regardless of what I think about the matter, he has the right to make said argument. | 02:57 |
| Pici | +b though | 02:57 |
| Seeker` | yeah, sory | 02:57 |
| Seeker` | it is 3am :) | 02:57 |
| elky | Flannel, he had no right to do it in the way he did it. especially not starting out in a manner that dismisses all previous conversations as 'unintelligent' | 02:57 |
| Pici | May I ask where this conversation took place? I don't seem to have it in my logs. | 02:58 |
| elky | Pici, this channel. | 02:58 |
| Pici | elky: hm... okay | 02:58 |
| elky | Pici, in response to being asked to change his nick, mindrape joined here and declared all previous communications 'unintelligent' and proceeded to dismiss how a victim of rape may perceive his name, then proceeded to list other nicks such as dogmeat as being on par with the effect of rape. | 02:59 |
| elky | all the while flannel agreed with him and even at one point called me childish. and i'm supposed to sit back and *like* the spanking. | 03:00 |
| Flannel | erm. | 03:00 |
| Flannel | Pici: just read the logs | 03:00 |
| Flannel | elky: You and I are operators. We have an obligation to remain civil and mindful during our activities. Personal vendettas don't accomplish anything. | 03:02 |
| elky | i was called childish because i mused that my butcher sells 'dog meat' | 03:02 |
| elky | Flannel, what personal vendetta?! | 03:02 |
| elky | Flannel, it's not personal at all. | 03:03 |
| elky | it's about the nick and the repulsive disregard for other people's concerns | 03:04 |
| elky | no wonder he thinks it's personal if you said it was in front of him. | 03:04 |
| Flannel | When did I say it was personal in front of him? | 03:05 |
| Flannel | Heck, when did I say this one was personal? | 03:05 |
| Pici | Flannel: You just did a few moments ago, and while mindrape was parted from the channel the other day. | 03:06 |
| Flannel | Pici: When? The vendetta comment? That was a general statement. | 03:07 |
| Pici | I think we should all calm down a little bit and talk constructively here. Its okay if we disagree, but the tensions here are really high. | 03:07 |
| bazhang | ++ | 03:07 |
| Flannel | Pici: If mindrape was parted, it wasn't in front of him, yes? Or am I confused | 03:07 |
| Pici | <Flannel> elky: You need to ditch the personal crusades. You're trivializing all of the work the operators do. | 03:07 |
| elky | Flannel, he reads the logs | 03:07 |
| Flannel | elky: so what does it matter if its infront of him or not re: last night? | 03:08 |
| Pici | Flannel: You're right, it wasn't. But we're all stressed out by this so she may have been mistaken. | 03:08 |
| elky | Flannel, because the irc council got a mail today, claiming that i repeately ban him and have a personal vendetta on him. | 03:08 |
| Pici | And yes, the email did say that. I have no idea where it came from. | 03:09 |
| elky | Pici, my point was 'no wonder, if' | 03:09 |
| Pici | I mean I know where the email came from, but I don't know where this idea of a vendetta. | 03:09 |
| Pici | elky: ah. I missed the 'if' | 03:09 |
| elky | Flannel, his behaviour is not exemplary either, if the part message you banned him for in january is anything to go by | 03:10 |
| Pici | But regardless of whatever we're talking about, we should just take a few deep breaths, and talk like adults. | 03:10 |
| ubottu | LjL called the ops in #ubuntu () | 03:10 |
| Pici | banlist full? | 03:11 |
| Pici | wrong mode :/ | 03:11 |
| elky | unless the mibbits are back... | 03:13 |
| bazhang | swooley makes bacta look sane | 03:13 |
| elky | bacta is not sane, trust me on this one. | 03:14 |
| bazhang | exactly my point | 03:14 |
| Pici | vorian: thanks | 03:16 |
| vorian | it's a friggin blitzkreig | 03:16 |
| bazhang | mmmiiikkkke in #kubuntu is likely traveler6 from -ot fame | 03:17 |
| elky | for crying out loud, now what is ljl doing? please tell me he's not going down the 'your offense offends me' path | 03:22 |
| bazhang | how to change chans in quassel | 03:23 |
| Flannel | bazhang: right click server, Join Channel, enter name | 03:24 |
| bazhang | Flannel, thanks, he figured it out :) | 03:24 |
| Pici | elky: I think he may have just realized that not everyone is going to agree on this. | 03:25 |
| elky | it looks awfully like someone is 'sticking it to' a complainant. | 03:25 |
| Pici | Its obviously a touchy subject. | 03:25 |
| elky | * DarkNight2 (n=kavita@202.179.80.61) has left #ubuntu-offtopic | 03:50 |
| elky | lets guess who. | 03:51 |
| elky | vorian, still around? | 03:53 |
| elky | also * #ubuntu-offtopic n=kavita 202.179.79.53 irc.freenode.net DarkNight1 G :0 purple | 03:54 |
| vorian | elky: yes'm | 03:56 |
| elky | vorian, was asus-tek/hynix/etc klined, can you remember? | 03:58 |
| elky | and if so. how long ago did it expire | 03:58 |
| vorian | not familiar with that one | 03:58 |
| elky | !ot | 05:09 |
| ubottu | And the magical fairies came in and stole the crown from underneath the apple tree... | 05:09 |
| elky | !ot-#ubuntu-offtopic | 05:10 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 05:10 |
| elky | haaaaaaaalps | 05:10 |
| Flannel | !offtopic-#ubuntu-offtopic | 05:12 |
| ubottu | Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-ops. Controversial topics, which often turn into flame wars: war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, questionably legal activities, suicide are not for here. Please discuss these rules themselves only in #ubuntu-ops. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) | 05:12 |
| Flannel | ot isn't in -ot apparently | 05:12 |
| Flannel | Oh, but... | 05:12 |
| Flannel | interesting. | 05:12 |
| Flannel | Ah! | 05:13 |
| Flannel | !-ot | 05:13 |
| ubottu | ot-#ubuntu-ops has no aliases - added by Mez on 2008-06-11 14:45:54 | 05:13 |
| ubottu | ot is <alias> offtopic - added by LjL on 2007-02-14 17:11:04 | 05:13 |
| Flannel | Aliases are done before channel redirectionish stuff | 05:13 |
| Flannel | so, !ot aliases "offtopic" which redirects to !offtopic-#ubuntu-offtopic | 05:13 |
| elky | we have duplication though, as !o4o != !offtopic | 05:20 |
| Flannel | yeah, that's odd. | 05:21 |
| Flannel | looks like the root factoid for offtopic is offtopic4offtopic | 05:23 |
| Flannel | and then o4o is the other | 05:24 |
| rww | So... I was doing my daily "find obscure factoids for fun and profit" activity, when I noticed that there's apparently a !ツ-#ubuntu-offtopic, but I can't seem to get it to trigger. Any idea what it is? | 06:07 |
| rww | !search ツ | 06:08 |
| ubottu | Found: ツ-#ubuntu-offtopic, seveas | 06:08 |
| elky | !ツ | 06:09 |
| elky | !ツ | 06:09 |
| elky | how odd... | 06:09 |
| rww | Yeah, doesn't work in -offtopic, either | 06:09 |
| elky | i think i see why... | 06:10 |
| elky | rww, does that # look non-normal to you? | 06:11 |
| rww | no | 06:11 |
| elky | it does to me. it looks kind of 'italic' to me | 06:12 |
| rww | nothing happens when I do /msg ubottu !-ツ-#ubuntu-offtopic either. Generally with non-existant factoids, it'll throw an error. | 06:12 |
| rww | they normally look italic to me =/ | 06:12 |
| rww | I suspect ubottu wasn't coded with unicode factoid triggers in mind. | 06:13 |
| elky | it wasnt | 06:13 |
| elky | supybot support for unicode sucks. | 06:13 |
| rww | aha! I grabbed the raw .db and opened it in a text editor (>.>): "the katakana character 'tsu' - often abused as smiley by Seveas and a truckload of other copycats ッ" | 06:18 |
| elky | yeah | 06:19 |
| elky | geekosophical.net/tmp/unicodehashes.png | 06:20 |
| rww | interesting. I guess whoever added it was being particularly tricky that day. | 06:24 |
| rww | anyway, by the look of -ot, you might need this room for stuff soon, so I'll get going. | 06:24 |
| mneptok | oh good, some privacy. | 06:37 |
| * mneptok pees in the corner | 06:37 | |
| ubottu | In ubottu, rww said: !google is <reply> Telling people to "google it" instead of answering their problem is rude; many users aren't proficient with google, or want help from a person. For GNU/Linux: http://google.com/linux | 06:42 |
| nalioth | right. JFGI is rude, so we'll just tack it on to the end of the factoid, anyway :| | 06:44 |
| mneptok | "lol" as punctuation is becoming really, REALLY tiresome | 07:16 |
| elky | mneptok, "becoming"? | 07:16 |
| mneptok | ugh, i canna take no more. | 07:20 |
| mneptok | maybe i'll go to bed so woo and i can tootle around in the new vehicles tomorrow. | 07:20 |
| mneptok | although i think a massive laundry mission is in order. | 07:20 |
| mneptok | "lol" | 07:21 |
| mneptok | it will be interesting when these teenagers are in their middle age, and professionals. | 07:22 |
| mneptok | "Your son has an inoperable malignant tumor. I'd say the best prognosis gives him six weeks to live lol." | 07:22 |
| mneptok | "My fellow Americans, we have commenced unrestricted nuclear warfare with China lol." | 07:23 |
| elky | you're assuming they'll spend enough time studying to achieve the skills to become a doctor or president. | 07:25 |
| elky | (the ones on irc, anyway) | 07:25 |
| elky | and besides, it'd be "My fellow Americans, we have commenced unrestricted nuclear pwnage of China lol." | 07:26 |
| mneptok | two words. "Bush Jr" | 07:31 |
| mneptok | weep for the future. | 07:31 |
| elky | we did make it through that without nucular war. | 07:32 |
| mneptok | probably because he couldn't find the button labelled "PWN" | 07:32 |
| topyli | just the other day i witnessed "lol" on a mailing list for activity theorists, well read and educated people | 07:54 |
| zeromod | I would like to complain a bit if that's fine by you. | 08:02 |
| Hobbsee | go ahead | 08:03 |
| zeromod | I feel it could be best relayed by my post on the forums. It includes the relevant log files if I can link that? | 08:03 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, AtomicSpark said: !docky is one of the many themes for Gnome-Do. http://do.davebsd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Docky | 08:03 |
| zeromod | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7336369#post7336369 | 08:03 |
| elky | zeromod, you could do your case a lot of justice by using basic formatting and grammar. | 08:06 |
| zeromod | I'm not much of a typer. | 08:06 |
| zeromod | I can type rather fast, but my format is horrid. Sorry. | 08:06 |
| elky | also, as mneptok was a support person for Canonical for many years, his advice is as good as it gets. | 08:07 |
| zeromod | He offered no "advice" | 08:08 |
| elky | he advised you to not encourage flippant use of chmod. | 08:08 |
| zeromod | he simply refused to read the advice I provided. Rather simple advice really, I told the gent to read a man page on chmod | 08:08 |
| zeromod | and If you would read the text you would see I was doing the exact opposite of that. | 08:08 |
| zeromod | the only reason i mentioned chmod is because he was gearing to run a local web server | 08:08 |
| elky | that is still bad advice. | 08:09 |
| zeromod | I clearly stated to sudo gedit the php file, and to read chmod and that it was indeed a risky thing to go crazy with. | 08:09 |
| zeromod | bad advice to read a man page? | 08:09 |
| elky | no, to encourage the use of chmod for web servers. | 08:10 |
| zeromod | Nothing was encouraged other than reading a man page. And you will certainly have to change permissions on files on a web server I have numerous domains myself and the first thing you have to do with any commercial or non script is usally to modify permissions of certain files. especially in social networking apps to allow templates to be uploaded by end users etc. | 08:11 |
| elky | reading further, you then proceeded to try mock and ridicule mneptok. | 08:11 |
| zeromod | I told him quite simply to sudo edit the file and in the meantime to read up on chmod because it will be something he will need to know if he is going to running php scripts. | 08:11 |
| zeromod | Yes after he clearly baited me to do so. | 08:11 |
| zeromod | Similarly you immediately strike my grammatical prowess in my complaint. | 08:12 |
| zeromod | Yes I was upset but if you say you wouldn't have been, it would be silly. | 08:12 |
| elky | i certainly would not be disrespectful and rude, like you were. | 08:13 |
| elky | and from what i see, that's what you got removed for. | 08:13 |
| elky | also, the implication that we as ops are not allowed to assist or counter bad advice is plain wrong. | 08:14 |
| zeromod | Respect is earned, long time member or not it was unfounded to speak to me like that. How would you like it, if you were in front of peers helping someone to the best of your ability and then I were to say. You can't help them that way Clear!? | 08:14 |
| zeromod | You also read wrong, I never implied that you couldn't counter bad advice that's ridiculous. | 08:14 |
| elky | zeromod, you're not making sense. | 08:14 |
| elky | zeromod, you termed it 'picking fights'. i term it 'countering bad advice' | 08:15 |
| zeromod | Apparently you have read into my comments that I am implying that you cannot counter bad advice correct? I'm saying thats wrong. | 08:15 |
| zeromod | So then the rule is, to be clear that "bad advice" such as reading a man page. Is what is not the as mneptok put it so well "the preferred method"? | 08:16 |
| elky | (02:07:53 AM) zeromod: hshan1 that would be safer that chmod 0777 something that sounds like it's going to be on a web server <-- sounds plainly like you missed 'you' between 'that' and 'chmod' | 08:16 |
| elky | and i would have taken an issue with that too. | 08:16 |
| zeromod | the inquiring party read my statements before and after which made it quite clear that I was in no way telling him to chmod the file, not to mention mneptok was telling him as well. | 08:17 |
| Hobbsee | aieee, there's advocation aboutmaking things world readable on a web server? | 08:18 |
| elky | i'm struggling to find the other statements with the absence of formatting. | 08:18 |
| elky | Hobbsee, calm down. | 08:18 |
| zeromod | I see, I'll end this then. I'm in no mood to be jumped here. Goodbye. | 08:18 |
| * Hobbsee goes back to coding | 08:18 | |
| elky | i'm seriously struggling to follow that conversation... | 08:19 |
| elky | mneptok, shame on you for not realising that the 'oh but you could also just' counteracted any and mentions of chmod. | 08:21 |
| elky | s/any and/any and all/ | 08:22 |
| elky | dinner time | 08:26 |
| ikonia | an interesting thing to note in that log that zeromod posted http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7336369#post7336369 | 11:01 |
| ikonia | (02:03:13 AM) ravelon [n=adminski@254-162-124-91.pool.ukrtel.net] entered the room | 11:01 |
| ikonia | vertix | 11:01 |
| ikonia | who is klined | 11:01 |
| elky | spouting crap? | 11:03 |
| ikonia | nope silent | 11:03 |
| ikonia | same client, same ISP, same ident, same channels (some of them) as vertix | 11:04 |
| ikonia | put a forward on here | 11:04 |
| ikonia | another non-registered nick | 11:04 |
| ikonia | only started appearing in #ubuntu / ##linux / #css (vertix channels too) day after vertix was klined | 11:05 |
| ikonia | think that's a reasonable reason to talk to him about it ? | 11:05 |
| ikonia | sorry, I should say "I think" | 11:05 |
| ikonia | now what the devil has been going on in here last night, looks very heated | 11:06 |
| ikonia | update 07:03 -!- ravelon [n=adminski@254-162-124-91.pool.ukrtel.net] is the exact ip of vertix | 11:21 |
| ikonia | not just same iprange, same actual ip+ident+channel list, I'll leave the forward in place | 11:21 |
| mopz | hi could i please get unbanned from #ubuntu? | 14:31 |
| Tm_T | @login | 14:32 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 14:32 |
| Tm_T | @btlogin | 14:32 |
| mopz | @login | 14:32 |
| ubottu | Error: You are not identified | 14:32 |
| Tm_T | mopz: I believe you need to talk with Pici about this | 14:36 |
| Tm_T | mopz: but, you know why you were banned? and you have learned from this? | 14:37 |
| mopz | yes! | 14:37 |
| mopz | i promise i won't do it again | 14:37 |
| Seeker` | stgraber_: how can we help you? | 16:50 |
| stgraber_ | hey there, I'm looking for someone who could increase my channel limit on freenode as I recently reached it and now have to use two irssi to be in all my channels. | 16:50 |
| Seeker` | try #freenode | 16:50 |
| Mamarok | huhu stgraber_ :) | 16:50 |
| stgraber_ | hi Mamarok | 16:50 |
| stgraber_ | Seeker`: hobbsee sent me there but yeah I'll try again on #freenode, thanks | 16:51 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| Seeker` | stgraber_: if there is nothing else you need, can I ask you to leave this channel please | 16:56 |
| stgraber_ | sure | 17:05 |
| * mneptok reads scrool | 17:16 | |
| mneptok | oh *yay* :/ | 17:16 |
| * jussi01 bites mneptok | 17:32 | |
| * mneptok tastes like chicken! | 17:39 | |
| jussi01 | !away > The_Toxic_Mite | 20:20 |
| Seeker` | nalioth: can you prod the logs please? | 21:11 |
| * nalioth prods Seeker` with a log | 21:25 | |
| Seeker` | nalioth: thankyou kind sir | 21:26 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, Tanner3 said: !smack is ouch | 22:49 |
| Seeker` | Tanner3: how can we help you?: | 22:51 |
| Tanner3 | oops, no, just exploring | 22:51 |
| Seeker` | Unless you have an issue we can help with, I would ask you not to idle in this channel | 22:52 |
| Tanner3 | okay | 22:52 |
| Tanner3 | now, i have a question about the bot | 22:53 |
| Tanner3 | do you mind if i use one of the factoids for Mozilla bots? | 22:53 |
| Seeker` | you mean copying the text of the factoids? | 22:54 |
| Tanner3 | Yeah | 22:54 |
| Seeker` | I dont think it would be a problem, although I don't runt he bots | 22:54 |
| Tanner3 | Okay. | 22:54 |
| Tanner3 | They aren't copyrighted(sp?), are they? | 22:55 |
| Seeker` | I dont know | 22:57 |
| Tanner3 | okay. | 22:57 |
| Tanner3 | Thanks | 22:57 |
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