| === [o_O] is now known as danopia | ||
| firsm | Does anyone know why OOo looks like crap on xubuntu: http://firsm.sdf-eu.org/ooo.png ? | 00:38 |
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| firsm | kind of looks like gtk1 | 00:39 |
| R1cochet | is there a gtk app similar to k9copy? | 03:16 |
| === Paddy_EIRE_ is now known as Paddy_EIRE | ||
| === R1coch3t is now known as R1cochet | ||
| MTec007 | how would i go about doing a non persistant install? of course i want to set things up first and i need to be able to do updates and things like that regularly | 04:10 |
| MTec007 | or is there a way to make a user that will be able to surf the internet and things like that but no files will be saved to disk after logout and no settings will be saved either? | 04:13 |
| R1cochet | any1 use dvd95 or dvdbackup? | 04:24 |
| ValentineX | hi i want to use xubuntu coz my pc is slow ubuntu is slow on my pc | 05:35 |
| ValentineX | DiCK454: dirty alias | 05:35 |
| hatake_kakashi | lol | 05:35 |
| aaqil | how to remove floppy and and and ..... trash icon from desktop? | 07:42 |
| aaqil | how to remove Home icon from desktop? | 07:43 |
| R1cochet | what version? | 07:45 |
| aaqil | 9.04 | 07:46 |
| aaqil | i found now :D | 07:46 |
| aaqil | thanks | 07:46 |
| R1cochet | apps>settings>xfce settings> | 07:46 |
| R1cochet | np | 07:46 |
| R1cochet | :) | 07:46 |
| aaqil | it is fast now my pc with xubuntu :D | 07:47 |
| R1cochet | cool :) | 07:49 |
| R1cochet | what were u on b4? | 07:49 |
| aaqil | fedora ubuntu | 07:50 |
| aaqil | and xp :D | 07:51 |
| aaqil | xp i hate now so much | 07:51 |
| R1cochet | what desktop environment is fedora? | 07:51 |
| aaqil | fedora i dont know what is desktop environment | 07:51 |
| R1cochet | kde gnome xfce enlightenment | 07:51 |
| aaqil | gnome i selected i dont know much | 07:52 |
| aaqil | it is so fast that i am minimizing maximizing opened applications and windows again and again :D enjoying the speed :D | 07:53 |
| R1cochet | cool | 07:54 |
| R1cochet | looks like fedora is gnome environment | 07:54 |
| aaqil | yes was gnome not that other kde i think of blue themes coz friend told that kde needs more fast pc | 07:55 |
| R1cochet | yea and its buggy | 07:55 |
| aaqil | i have 2ghz 1gb ram | 07:55 |
| R1cochet | xfce ownz | 07:55 |
| aaqil | i changed language to urdu (pakistani) but i cant see the change i need to restart ? | 07:57 |
| aaqil | R1cochet, thanks | 08:04 |
| wizo | hey, what does /etc/apache2/sites-enabled do? | 10:35 |
| AqA | how to view my ntfs drives of xp from xubuntu? | 10:51 |
| knome | !ntfs | 10:51 |
| ubottu | To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE | 10:51 |
| AqA | knome that was easy in ubuntu | 10:52 |
| knome | AqA, !fuse | 10:54 |
| knome | ehm, | 10:54 |
| knome | !fuse | AqA | 10:54 |
| ubottu | AqA: FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE. Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems | 10:54 |
| AqA | i am not understanding those all :( | 10:54 |
| AqA | in ubuntu i just used to go to Home\ and there all my drives | 10:54 |
| knome | AqA, if you want, you can use nautilus in xubuntu. it's more heavy than thunar, but it should work as in ubuntu. | 10:57 |
| AqA | knome, what are those things i dont know what is nautilus and thunar :-S | 10:58 |
| knome | AqA, file browsers | 10:58 |
| AqA | where is thunar here | 10:58 |
| knome | anywhere you browse files. | 10:58 |
| AqA | in thunar i dont see my ntfs | 10:59 |
| knome | yes, as i said, you need nautilus to get them "easily" available | 10:59 |
| AqA | ntfs should be at left side selections like ubuntu | 10:59 |
| AqA | how to get nautilus | 10:59 |
| knome | you can ask JPohlmann for that feature | 10:59 |
| knome | go to synaptic, search for nautilus and install it. | 10:59 |
| AqA | in ubuntu 9.04 was giving that nice notifications for pidgin,,,, with black color for new messages and contacts online alerts, can i have like that in xubuntu? | 11:02 |
| knome | we have disabled that by default and i don't know the procedure to get it back. | 11:02 |
| JPohlmann | If you have mounted NTFS partitions, Thunar will let you browse them. Thunar has no direkt support for FUSE though. You'd have define FUSE mounts manually with an editor by editing /etc/fstab or by mounting from the command line. | 11:02 |
| knome | AqA, may i ask you, why are you using xubuntu and not ubuntu if you want all the features ubuntu does? | 11:03 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: I think you can. Install notify-osd and make sure you remove xfce4-notifyd before. | 11:03 |
| AqA | xubuntu is faster ubuntu was slowest | 11:03 |
| knome | AqA, if you install nautilus + all the stuff ubuntu has, xubuntu will become as slow. | 11:04 |
| knome | at least almost. | 11:04 |
| AqA | :( | 11:04 |
| AqA | my pc is not even that slower 1gb ram, 2ghz processor why these are slow for me | 11:04 |
| JPohlmann | There's no way around that unfortunately. | 11:04 |
| JPohlmann | Yeah, that doesn't sound too bad. | 11:04 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, how to mount ntfs? | 11:05 |
| JPohlmann | mount -t ntfs <device name> <mount point> | 11:05 |
| JPohlmann | But that'll be read only. | 11:05 |
| JPohlmann | I think | 11:05 |
| AqA | what is device name and mount point | 11:06 |
| th0r | JPohlmann: while thunar has no direct support for fuse, you can add custom actions that will appear in the right click menu for such commands | 11:06 |
| JPohlmann | True | 11:07 |
| AqA | knome, i have installed nautilus with some other packages, still i dont see my partitions in thunar | 11:07 |
| JPohlmann | You'll have to use Nautilus for file browsing then. | 11:09 |
| AqA | wao wao wao i just found network monitor option in my panel :D | 11:09 |
| JPohlmann | I don't recommend that. | 11:09 |
| JPohlmann | Remove nautilus and add a mount point for your NTFS partition to /etc/fstab. | 11:10 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, how to do that explain more | 11:10 |
| AqA | step by step | 11:10 |
| JPohlmann | Install ntfs-3g | 11:10 |
| AqA | ok | 11:11 |
| JPohlmann | Done? | 11:11 |
| AqA | terminal said No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. | 11:11 |
| JPohlmann | Ok, let me take a look. | 11:12 |
| AqA | synaptic says ntfs-3g already installed | 11:12 |
| JPohlmann | Ah, good | 11:13 |
| AqA | next? | 11:13 |
| JPohlmann | What does "ls -la /dev/sd?" on the command line give you? Please paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com. | 11:14 |
| zethero2 | how do you browse networks in Xubuntu? | 11:14 |
| AqA | ls: cannot access /dev/sd: No such file or directory | 11:15 |
| JPohlmann | zethero2: No easy way to do it. You can mount network shares using gigolo though. | 11:15 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, out put ls: cannot access /dev/sd: No such file or directory | 11:16 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: "ls -la /dev/hd?" maybe? | 11:16 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, ls: cannot access /dev/hd: No such file or directory | 11:16 |
| zethero2 | JPohlmann: you mean you cannot browse networks like in Ubuntu ? | 11:16 |
| JPohlmann | zethero2: Not with any of the core programs of Xfce at least. | 11:17 |
| zethero2 | ok | 11:17 |
| zethero2 | what do I need to install? | 11:17 |
| JPohlmann | I don't know | 11:17 |
| zethero2 | won't bother asking why this is not a something built into the OS ... | 11:17 |
| zethero2 | seems rather obsurd | 11:18 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: Ok, please post the output of "ls -la /dev/" on paste.ubuntu.com and post the link here. | 11:18 |
| th0r | zethero2: it is in the os...just not in xfce | 11:18 |
| zethero2 | th0r: aka ... not fully functional in Xubuntu | 11:19 |
| JPohlmann | No, it's not absurd. First, it's not a feature of the OS. And second, Xfce has a very small developer team (~6 people working on the core of it). | 11:19 |
| zethero2 | ? | 11:19 |
| JPohlmann | So we just can't implement *everything*. | 11:19 |
| zethero2 | I mean I love it .. its so fast!!! | 11:19 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, http://paste.ubuntu.com/179446/ | 11:19 |
| th0r | JPohlmann: are you on the team...always wanted to thank one of you | 11:19 |
| zethero2 | but browsing networks is pretty common no!? | 11:19 |
| JPohlmann | th0r: I think so, yes ;) Thanks! | 11:19 |
| AqA | YEs xubuntu is fast :D | 11:20 |
| th0r | zethero2: you can get better network browsing in xfce then in gnome using fusesmb, but it takes some work | 11:20 |
| JPohlmann | zethero2: It is. But it's not exactly easy to implement, I suppose. | 11:20 |
| zethero2 | but I guess there has to be a balance between speek and features ... right ... | 11:20 |
| zethero2 | speed* | 11:20 |
| zethero2 | right | 11:20 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: Can you paste the output of "fdisk -l /dev/sda"? | 11:21 |
| zethero2 | is this the way to go? | 11:21 |
| zethero2 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131 | 11:21 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, Cannot open /dev/sda | 11:21 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, i think last time i did not shut down my xp properly | 11:22 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" then. | 11:22 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, http://paste.ubuntu.com/179449/ | 11:23 |
| zethero2 | ok ... so I am guessing nautilus will not work in Xubuntu? | 11:23 |
| th0r | zethero2: it will work, but will carry all the gnome overhead with it | 11:24 |
| JPohlmann | zethero2: The link looks ok, you could try that ... or try pyNeighborhood | 11:24 |
| zethero2 | pyNeighborhood ... is that an app? | 11:24 |
| zethero2 | th0r: right ... thought as much | 11:24 |
| th0r | zethero2: if you try fusesmb you should know that you will need to retrofit libsmbclient to 3.0.28a | 11:24 |
| th0r | zethero2: I had to search a week to find that one | 11:25 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: Now open /etc/fstab in an editor (as root). | 11:25 |
| zethero2 | th0r: ok ,,, whatever that meant .. ha ... pretty much a noob here ... only using Linux for 2 years or so | 11:25 |
| th0r | zethero2: the new libsmbclient breaks fusesmb...so you need to download an older one and install it | 11:25 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, give command with editor and as root user i have forgotten :-S | 11:26 |
| JPohlmann | zethero2: Yes, pyNeighborhood is an application. | 11:26 |
| th0r | zethero2: if you google 'fusesmb libsmbclient' it should get yo uto more info | 11:26 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: Try "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" from the terminal. | 11:26 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, sudo: gedit: command not found | 11:26 |
| zethero2 | th0r: ok well I think I will try that other mentioned ap then first ... | 11:26 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: Right, haha. You're using Xubuntu after all ... | 11:27 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: Try "sudo mousepad /etc/fstab". | 11:27 |
| zethero2 | so what makes Xubuntu so fast? | 11:27 |
| knome | JPohlmann. | 11:27 |
| knome | ;> | 11:27 |
| th0r | zethero2: among other things...the lack of network browsing <smile> | 11:27 |
| AqA | rat makes xubuntu fast light weight | 11:28 |
| zethero2 | ha | 11:28 |
| JPohlmann | Well, basically ... | 11:28 |
| zethero2 | no fair | 11:28 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, opened text editor | 11:28 |
| JPohlmann | Small team, fewer applications and libraries, simple foundations (no Mono, few bindings, mainly just C code), less features. | 11:28 |
| JPohlmann | Working on the features though ;) | 11:29 |
| zethero2 | ok | 11:29 |
| AqA | oh i never thought C is that powerful | 11:29 |
| zethero2 | would desktop effects work? | 11:29 |
| th0r | JPohlmann: a suggestion...keep the features optional like the custom commands in thunar | 11:29 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: Well, on top of assembler, C is *the* foundation for most other programming languages. | 11:30 |
| JPohlmann | th0r: That works sometimes but not always. | 11:30 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: Try adding a line like this to your /etc/fstab: | 11:31 |
| JPohlmann | /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs auto,defaults,user,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 | 11:31 |
| th0r | JPohlmann: I know....but I stick with xfce for thunar and the custom commands...I love that idea | 11:31 |
| th0r | JPohlmann: and I certainly don't need transparent windows...I have a hard enough time seeing the screen at my age | 11:31 |
| AqA | th0r, what are custom commands | 11:32 |
| JPohlmann | Where /dev/sda1 is the NTFS partition you want to mount, /media/sda1 is the mount point (you probably want to rename it to something like /media/windows). Use gid=1000 though. | 11:32 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, which line to add? | 11:32 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: At the end of the file. | 11:32 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, this line? /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs auto,defaults,user,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 | 11:32 |
| JPohlmann | Yeah | 11:32 |
| JPohlmann | With the changes I suggested. | 11:32 |
| JPohlmann | Oh, and try to add uid=1000 as well (replace 1000 of "echo $UID" gives you a different number). | 11:33 |
| AqA | /dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs auto,defaults,user,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1,uid=1000 JPohlmann | 11:34 |
| JPohlmann | No | 11:34 |
| JPohlmann | /dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs auto,defaults,user,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=1000,uid=1000 0 1 | 11:34 |
| AqA | added | 11:35 |
| AqA | save document now? | 11:35 |
| JPohlmann | Yep | 11:35 |
| JPohlmann | Then create /media/windows ("sudo mkdir /media/windows && chown 1000.1000 /media/windows") | 11:35 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, chown: changing ownership of `/media/windows': Operation not permitted | 11:37 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: Right, put a sudo in front of the second command. | 11:38 |
| JPohlmann | My bad | 11:38 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, i did not know that i am xubuntu of ur hands :-S if u come to my office i shall serve u tea | 11:38 |
| AqA | sudo mkdir /media/windows && sudo chown 1000.1000 /media/windows | 11:38 |
| JPohlmann | Yep | 11:38 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/windows': File exists | 11:38 |
| JPohlmann | Right. Just run the second command then. | 11:38 |
| AqA | which was first and second | 11:39 |
| Slonkie | Anybody know how to turn off smileys in emesene? | 11:39 |
| Slonkie | In settings there's only an option of choosing "Default" smiley theme. :/ | 11:39 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: sudo chown 1000.1000 /media/windows | 11:39 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, done | 11:40 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: Now try to mount the partition with "sudo mount /media/windows". | 11:40 |
| JPohlmann | You only have to do that manually now because I don't want to make you restart your machine. After that it should be mounted automatically. | 11:41 |
| JPohlmann | If it works now, that is. | 11:41 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab | 11:41 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: Add an empty line at the end of /etc/fstab then ;) | 11:42 |
| JPohlmann | Try to browse /media/windows with Thunar now. | 11:42 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, there is only my C xp partition | 11:43 |
| JPohlmann | AqA: But it's there, cool! | 11:43 |
| JPohlmann | You'll have to do the same for the other partitions (/dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6). | 11:44 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, there are others all :D | 11:44 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, they are already there all :D | 11:44 |
| AqA | sudo gedit /etc/fstab | 11:44 |
| JPohlmann | If you need these two: | 11:44 |
| JPohlmann | /dev/sda5 1218 2434 9775521 7 HPFS/NTFS | 11:44 |
| JPohlmann | /dev/sda6 3652 4868 9775521 7 HPFS/NTFS | 11:44 |
| JPohlmann | Just do the same thing again as you did for /dev/sda1. You only have to change /media/windows to something else for them, so e.g. use /media/windows-d for /dev/sda5 if that points to D:\\. | 11:45 |
| JPohlmann | Something like that. It's up to you. | 11:45 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, why sda5 and sda6 my all partitons are already shown | 11:45 |
| JPohlmann | That's weird. | 11:45 |
| JPohlmann | But if they are ... fine. | 11:46 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, even there are /media/windows and it is with other name "Disk" is too already present | 11:46 |
| JPohlmann | Hmm. Maybe even C:\\ was there already before we did that fstab thing ;) | 11:47 |
| JPohlmann | Let me know if you have any problems with that. I'll have to prepare for Barcelona now. | 11:48 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, they are fine | 11:48 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, what line i have to insert at the end of sudo mkdir /medi | 11:48 |
| AqA | sudo gedit /etc/fstab ** | 11:49 |
| JPohlmann | ? | 11:50 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, JPohlmann> AqA: Add an empty line at the end of /etc/fstab then ;) | 11:51 |
| AqA | th0r, welcome back | 11:52 |
| AqA | JPohlmann, thanks so much for the time and help :) see u later, thanks all | 11:54 |
| cemunal | my screen has been slided to right ( left side is black about one inch ) How can i rotate it with writing xorg.conf? | 11:57 |
| zethero2 | pyNeighborhood is not mounting any of the shared folders on the network | 12:08 |
| * JPohlmann is off, traveling to UDS | 12:09 | |
| zethero2 | how do I get pyNeighborhood to mount shared folders? | 12:11 |
| abra | how can I check what process is using my swap? | 12:49 |
| titan_ark_ | I am having trouble with 2 partitions on my external hdd, could someone help me out please | 12:56 |
| _Pete_ | what's the exact problem with partitions? | 12:58 |
| titan_ark_ | I have a 250 gig hdd in 5 partitions of 50 gigs each | 12:59 |
| titan_ark_ | all ntfs | 12:59 |
| titan_ark_ | they were working fine untill when i was burning some data out of them i got some delayed write error (in win xp) and after that they are empty | 13:00 |
| titan_ark_ | empty in the sense that i cant see the data but free space is what it was before (i.e. ~2-3 gb in those 2 partitions) | 13:01 |
| _Pete_ | dunno | 13:01 |
| _Pete_ | maybe best shot is to try some windows recovery tool | 13:02 |
| titan_ark_ | in xp only 1 drive was empty but in linux 2 drives are! | 13:02 |
| titan_ark_ | hmmm | 13:02 |
| titan_ark_ | and everything was just fine until i burnt data out of it :( | 13:02 |
| titan_ark_ | i was hoping linux would have some reliable tool/ method to handle such screw ups | 13:03 |
| titan_ark_ | no one has a solution? | 13:11 |
| titan_ark_ | :( | 13:11 |
| zethero2 | there must be a way to add smb privileges to the user right? | 13:23 |
| AqA | I am setting my screen resolution but every time i restart my xubuntu my screen resolution settings are not saved | 13:32 |
| AqA | سلام | 13:33 |
| AqA | good | 13:33 |
| Slonkie | Is it possible to create a shortcut like "Filesystem" on my desktop just for another harddrive? | 13:43 |
| mikechelen | Slonkie, sure, just link to the mount point | 13:43 |
| Slonkie | Would you mind explaining that more detailed? | 13:44 |
| th0r | Slonkie: is the other hd mounted now? maybe /media/? | 13:44 |
| mikechelen | Slonkie, yeah actually add "thunar" first | 13:45 |
| Slonkie | ah i realised.. damn things are so easy | 13:46 |
| Slonkie | Thanks both of ya :) | 13:46 |
| mikechelen | hehe good to hear :) | 13:46 |
| th0r | Slonkie: we could make them harder if you like | 13:47 |
| Slonkie | No reason to ;) | 13:48 |
| Slonkie | Well another question then.. Is it possible to add this link to sidepane right beneath the Filesystem link? | 13:49 |
| Slonkie | link/shortcut | 13:49 |
| Slonkie | I made a launcher on the desktop. | 13:49 |
| AqA | why it is happening with me :(( always i have to set screen resolution and always my panel things change their positions | 13:53 |
| th0r | Slonkie: again easy...right click the folder in thunar and send it to the side pane | 13:54 |
| th0r | Slonkie: and if I remember right you can order the links in the sidepane by dragging them around the sidepane | 13:55 |
| Slonkie | Well if i send the folder to sidepane the logo isen't what i want it to be | 13:56 |
| Slonkie | i wanna send the launcher to the sidepane, which isen't possible | 13:56 |
| th0r | Slonkie: you're right. When I created a launcher with a custom command line I found I had to actually create a bash script with the commandline and link to that | 13:57 |
| th0r | Slonkie: but I thought you were linking to a hard drive | 13:58 |
| * Slonkie wouldn't know how to do a bash script and link to that | 13:58 | |
| Slonkie | I am, th0r. | 13:58 |
| th0r | Slonkie: where is the hard drive mount point? | 13:58 |
| Slonkie | It's /media/storage/ | 13:59 |
| th0r | Slonkie: if you right click on /media/storage you should be able to add 'storage' to the sidepane | 13:59 |
| Slonkie | yes | 13:59 |
| Slonkie | as i said that doesn't have the "harddrive" icon that i want it to have. | 13:59 |
| th0r | Slonkie: ah....I see. I don't know of a way to change the icon | 14:00 |
| Slonkie | Okay :) | 14:00 |
| th0r | Slonkie: however...sounds like an interesting item....(going to google) | 14:00 |
| Slonkie | :) | 14:02 |
| th0r | Slonkie: those links are stored in ~/.gtk-bookmarks but there is no icon info there | 14:10 |
| qwerkus | Hello all: I very new to scripting, and would like to know if it is possible to automate online tasks (like logging everyday into the same html/js site, updating some stuff and logging out again) via a script ? Which language would you recommand ) Perl ? Thanks for your help. | 14:23 |
| th0r | qwerkus: it is possible to automate daily tasks, but, for instance, once you open the firefox browser there is no way to automate what IT does | 14:26 |
| th0r | qwerkus: you might be able to use wget to download items from the web automatically...it is a command line program | 14:27 |
| th0r | qwerkus: and as far as a language you should investigate using shell scripting. There are several good tutorials on the linux documentation project (tldp.org) | 14:28 |
| qwerkus | know about wget, but it cannot INTERACT with web contents | 14:29 |
| th0r | qwerkus: right...I don't know of any way to automate the interaction. | 14:29 |
| qwerkus | no problem: thanks for your help | 14:29 |
| zethero2 | its becoming increasingly frustrating to get DVD playback to work in *buntu | 14:29 |
| th0r | !dvd | 14:30 |
| ubottu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 14:30 |
| zethero2 | I install the libdvdcss packages and install them etc ... and still nothing | 14:30 |
| qwerkus | zethero2: only one answer: MPLAYER | 14:30 |
| th0r | zethero2: or vlc | 14:30 |
| zethero2 | I have been getting DVD playback going in Ubuntu for about 2 years but its never goes like they say it should | 14:30 |
| qwerkus | "they" ? Who's "they" ? | 14:31 |
| zethero2 | look at what this guy says .. http://linuxmoderate.wordpress.com/2008/08/01/a-quick-look-at-xubuntu-xtreme/ | 14:31 |
| zethero2 | DVD playback worked, but not quite perfectly. Inserting a commercial DVD brought up Totem Movie Player, which couldn’t play it. VLC, however, which is one of the extras you get with Xubuntu Xtreme, played the DVD just fine | 14:31 |
| th0r | zethero2: I just finished a fresh install of jaunty and it went out of the box, although Totem never worked for me...I always immediately install both mplayer and vlc | 14:31 |
| zethero2 | well I always also install VLC | 14:31 |
| zethero2 | but that does not do the trick .. | 14:31 |
| qwerkus | Totem is calibrated to work only with opensource codecs | 14:32 |
| zethero2 | mind you I am using Hardy here | 14:32 |
| zethero2 | but still | 14:32 |
| zethero2 | I gave up on Totaem long ago | 14:32 |
| qwerkus | that's why it doesn t wok out-of-the box in most of time | 14:32 |
| mikechelen | to play dvds with totem or mplayer requires codecs although vlc does not | 14:32 |
| qwerkus | one you manually configure it, it works well... | 14:32 |
| qwerkus | yes, but i found out vlc to be far less flexible than mplayer | 14:32 |
| qwerkus | of course, it can be tricky to learn all the command-line options... | 14:33 |
| qwerkus | For an example: try mkv with vlc, you might be surprised ! | 14:33 |
| mikechelen | mkv plays in vlc, performance depends on system though | 14:34 |
| zethero2 | mikechelen: vlc never works for me unless I install some other packages .... | 14:34 |
| zethero2 | anyhow my problem is just that I want to play a commercial DVD here and cannot .. dunno what I am missing... again | 14:34 |
| mikechelen | zethero2, for what kind of files? it usually seems to work for me | 14:34 |
| mikechelen | to install codecs quickly use the ubuntu-restricted-extras package | 14:35 |
| th0r | zethero2: can you play ANY commercial dvds? | 14:35 |
| mikechelen | or xubuntu- i guess | 14:35 |
| zethero2 | mikechelen: what do you mean by what kind of files?... its a commercial dvd ... so its .vob and .ifo etc etc | 14:36 |
| zethero2 | th0r: nothing... | 14:36 |
| zethero2 | ok I'll install restricted-extras | 14:36 |
| mikechelen | zethero2, ah ok, that probably does required restricted components | 14:36 |
| th0r | agreed | 14:36 |
| mikechelen | even vlc will not play it? | 14:36 |
| th0r | mikechelen: nope | 14:36 |
| th0r | mikechelen: need libdvdcss2 | 14:36 |
| zethero2 | I installed that already | 14:37 |
| zethero2 | and another one | 14:37 |
| zethero2 | libdvdread3 I think | 14:37 |
| mikechelen | th0r, ah okay, well once thats added then all the players should work | 14:37 |
| zethero2 | nope | 14:38 |
| qwerkus | zethero2: you sure the dvd is calibrated to your geographic zone ? | 14:38 |
| zethero2 | installed and still no playback | 14:38 |
| th0r | mikechelen: won't promise anything about totem <smile> | 14:38 |
| zethero2 | qwerkus: please rephrase that question -- ha | 14:38 |
| th0r | zethero2: run vlc or mplayer from a terminal and then open the file, see what error you get | 14:38 |
| zethero2 | http://pastebin.com/m1cf6215a | 14:40 |
| zethero2 | here you are | 14:40 |
| qwerkus | zethero2: http://www.infrench.com/Merchant2/dvd_zones.htm | 14:41 |
| qwerkus | If you try to play a dvd from another zone, it just won't work ... | 14:41 |
| zethero2 | oh your talking about regions | 14:41 |
| zethero2 | as in DVD Regions | 14:41 |
| zethero2 | yes ... I am all ok with that ... | 14:42 |
| qwerkus | Where are you from ? Your pastebin error shows: "DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00f70000. Regions: 4" | 14:42 |
| qwerkus | Australia - NewZealand ... | 14:43 |
| zethero2 | yes ... region 4 ... Australia | 14:43 |
| zethero2 | and my drive is set to region 4 | 14:43 |
| qwerkus | ok | 14:43 |
| th0r | zethero2: jeez...don | 14:43 |
| th0r | zethero2: let me try that again....don't recognize that error at all, not sure what is happening. It looks like everything is going well, then crash | 14:44 |
| zethero2 | I have had this in Ubuntu as well ... everything is there supposedly but its just not happening | 14:44 |
| th0r | zethero2: do you have libdvdnav installed? | 14:45 |
| zethero2 | never checked ... | 14:45 |
| th0r | zethero2: it is libdvdnav4 in jaunty | 14:45 |
| th0r | zethero2: while yu are there check libdvdread4 also | 14:45 |
| zethero2 | still downloading restricted-extras ... | 14:46 |
| zethero2 | slow downloads for some reason | 14:46 |
| th0r | zethero2: the data has to get all the way across the pacific! | 14:46 |
| zethero2 | but I mean I have never needed it before ... | 14:46 |
| zethero2 | well usually I get about 150 kb/s ... now its 50 - 60 kb/s | 14:47 |
| zethero2 | gonna have to wait for this to finish before doing anything else ... tsktsk | 14:48 |
| subtwo | zethero2: any local mirrors? | 14:49 |
| zethero2 | yes | 14:49 |
| zethero2 | using the one here | 14:49 |
| zethero2 | in Australia | 14:49 |
| zethero2 | anyhow ... I asked before about desktop effects and don't remember what the answer was .. or if there was one | 14:49 |
| aaqil | too bad i was very happy that xubuntu is compatible with my system but now its screen resolution problem is giving me headache :( | 14:49 |
| aaqil | xubuntu is only linux fast with my pc all others are slow | 14:50 |
| th0r | zethero2: from the printout you have libdvdnav 0.1.10 and jaunty is 4.1.3...could you have a very old version of that? | 14:50 |
| zethero2 | uh ... | 14:50 |
| aaqil | like ubuntu there was launchpad for bug reports etc , is there anything to report bugs for xubuntu? | 14:50 |
| zethero2 | whichever comes with Hardy | 14:50 |
| zethero2 | I guess its just the Hardy version of libdvdnav ... | 14:51 |
| zethero2 | thing is that I am running Ubuntu hardy on another laptop here and it plays DVD's just fine | 14:52 |
| zethero2 | Ubuntu Hardy that is | 14:52 |
| th0r | zethero2: I just ran vlc from the terminal and started a dvd....got this...libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.3 | 14:53 |
| zethero2 | ok | 14:53 |
| zethero2 | and the version on my other laptop in Ubuntu Hardy is | 14:53 |
| subtwo | zethero2: Have you tried medibuntu repository? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu | 14:54 |
| aaqil | When xubuntu will fully upgrade to 9.04? still most of the things are of 8.10 | 14:54 |
| zethero2 | libdvdnav4 version 0.1.10-0.2 | 14:54 |
| th0r | zethero2: did you by chance install that from source? Your printout says ....libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 0.1.10 from http://dvd.sf.net | 14:54 |
| zethero2 | subtwo: I have before ... on other machines and had the same issues ... sometimes it works sometimes it does not ... but really it should not be needed | 14:55 |
| th0r | zethero2: where does dvd.sf.net come in? (maybe a hardy thing I don't know about | 14:55 |
| subtwo | zothero2: ok, just checking... | 14:55 |
| zethero2 | th0r: that is the version on the Ubuntu machine ... not the Xubuntu one ... and no not installed from source | 14:55 |
| zethero2 | th0r: I really dunno | 14:55 |
| th0r | zethero2: ok...I am running xfce on an ubuntu install aslo. Just really surprised at the version difference | 14:56 |
| th0r | zethero2: s/aslo/also | 14:56 |
| zethero2 | th0r: I'll see in a minute if I can upgrade libdvdnav | 14:56 |
| zethero2 | just got to let this thing finish installing | 14:57 |
| th0r | zethero2: check for liba52....when your vlc crashes mine says this....[00000424] a52 decoder: A/52 channels:6 samplerate:48000 bitrate:448000 | 14:57 |
| zethero2 | msttcorefonts installing | 14:58 |
| zethero2 | almost there | 14:58 |
| zethero2 | ;-) | 14:59 |
| === sancas_ is now known as sancas | ||
| zethero2 | msttcorefonts still installing ... | 15:00 |
| zethero2 | :-/ | 15:00 |
| th0r | zethero2: you should at least upgrade to a 386 <smile> | 15:01 |
| zethero2 | ha | 15:01 |
| zethero2 | thanks man | 15:01 |
| zethero2 | ok | 15:01 |
| zethero2 | done | 15:01 |
| zethero2 | using the same libdvdnav4 version as my other Ubuntu machine | 15:02 |
| zethero2 | so that should be fine | 15:02 |
| zethero2 | now ... | 15:02 |
| th0r | zethero2: ok...check for liba52 | 15:02 |
| zethero2 | yep | 15:02 |
| zethero2 | its installed | 15:02 |
| zethero2 | no upgrade available | 15:03 |
| zethero2 | so thats cool too | 15:03 |
| zethero2 | ahhh | 15:04 |
| zethero2 | its working | 15:04 |
| zethero2 | !!!! | 15:04 |
| zethero2 | so it was the restricted-extras package this time | 15:04 |
| zethero2 | thanks for the help | 15:07 |
| zethero2 | will compiz work in Xubuntu? | 15:09 |
| Slonkie | Yes | 15:09 |
| zethero2 | so desktop effects and all as well? | 15:11 |
| Slonkie | Worked when i tried, yes. | 15:11 |
| zethero2 | cool | 15:13 |
| zethero2 | could you tell me where to enable Desktop Effects? | 15:17 |
| Slonkie | install the compiz settings manager | 15:18 |
| lsbrum | Bom dia. | 15:48 |
| lsbrum | Hi.. | 15:48 |
| SiDi | hi | 15:48 |
| lsbrum | How i customize Xfce main menu? | 15:48 |
| lsbrum | There is a mouse in bottom left, hehe | 15:49 |
| lsbrum | This menus is very large, with many itens, more than in Gnome. | 15:50 |
| lsbrum | Sorry for bad English, i am from Brasil. | 15:50 |
| SiDi | hm | 15:50 |
| SiDi | You'll have to edit the .desktop files manually. There is no menu editor in Xubuntu 9.04 :( | 15:50 |
| SiDi | http://wiki.xfce.org/pt-br/howto/customize-menu lsbrum ;) | 15:51 |
| lsbrum | Hummm... | 15:51 |
| lsbrum | I changed this file, but not happens.. | 15:52 |
| lsbrum | heheh | 15:52 |
| lsbrum | /usr/share/applications/*.desktop and ~/.config/share/applications/*.desktop | 15:52 |
| lsbrum | Who is the right? | 15:52 |
| lsbrum | SiDi: Delete a *.desktop is not a trouble? | 15:53 |
| lsbrum | hehe | 15:53 |
| SiDi | Copy them in .config/share/applications/ | 15:53 |
| SiDi | and then open them with the text editor | 15:53 |
| SiDi | and at the end, add "NoDisplay=True" | 15:53 |
| SiDi | and they will disappear from the menu ;) | 15:53 |
| lsbrum | wow!!! | 15:54 |
| lsbrum | SiDi: Thanks a lot man! | 15:54 |
| lsbrum | :D | 15:54 |
| lsbrum | This works for me!! | 15:54 |
| SiDi | you're welcome | 15:54 |
| lsbrum | :] | 15:54 |
| SiDi | ;) | 15:54 |
| lsbrum | im going away for a while! | 15:54 |
| lsbrum | Thanks again! | 15:55 |
| SiDi | no prob | 15:56 |
| SiDi | see you | 15:56 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| saketh | hi | 17:07 |
| knome | !hi | saketh | 17:07 |
| ubottu | saketh: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 17:07 |
| saketh | how would i go about installing a HP officejet J6480 printer as a network printer through a windows XP comp | 17:08 |
| saketh | while accessing on xubuntu | 17:08 |
| saketh | ? | 17:08 |
| saketh | i cant seem to connect to it | 17:08 |
| saketh | hello? | 17:18 |
| _Pete_ | lo | 17:25 |
| _Pete_ | it's sunday and this is not 99$/minute helpline | 17:25 |
| _Pete_ | dont except miracles :) | 17:25 |
| saketh | srry | 17:27 |
| saketh | i just set up the comp on xp | 17:27 |
| saketh | i just wanna configure on xubuntu | 17:27 |
| saketh | i mean connect | 17:28 |
| saketh | sri | 17:28 |
| _Pete_ | I dont know nothing about the issue, hopefullu someone other does | 17:28 |
| saketh | ok | 17:28 |
| saketh | thanx | 17:28 |
| _Pete_ | meanwhile best shot is to google | 17:28 |
| saketh | i did | 17:28 |
| saketh | no help at all | 17:28 |
| knome | saketh, did you search the ubuntu forums? | 17:29 |
| knome | saketh, the problem might be that your printer is just simply not compatible with linux. | 17:29 |
| saketh | yes i did | 17:30 |
| saketh | i couldn find any solutions | 17:30 |
| saketh | i just wanna send print jobs to my xp comp | 17:30 |
| saketh | which can sent them to the printer | 17:30 |
| saketh | ... | 17:30 |
| knome | right. | 17:31 |
| knome | i think you still need the drivers. | 17:31 |
| knome | saketh, a relatively good solution would be to print to pdf and print them from windows. | 17:31 |
| knome | if you don't mind doing that. | 17:32 |
| saketh | yea i guess | 17:32 |
| saketh | or is there any way that i can acess at least the windows 'shared files' folder from xubuntu? | 17:33 |
| saketh | howw ould i go about installing the drivers? | 17:35 |
| bytejumper | Hi All, How I Can have more resolutions listed in the monitor preferences dialog in XFCE4 ? | 18:02 |
| vidd | bytejumper, those are usually the resolutions detected by x server.... | 18:02 |
| vidd | have you run xrandr to see what resolutions that list is missing? | 18:03 |
| bytejumper | vidd sure, But I have a 32" flatscreen which is not detected the correct resolutions | 18:03 |
| vidd | does xrandr list those "missing" resolutions? | 18:03 |
| bytejumper | I know the monitor should send his resolutions trough the I2C bus, but he does'nt sent it or I don't know... | 18:04 |
| vidd | ill ask again... | 18:04 |
| vidd | did you open terminal, and type "xrandr ? | 18:04 |
| bytejumper | I'm currently not on this screen, but I will try | 18:05 |
| bytejumper | What should I do if xrandr doesn't show the resolutions ? | 18:05 |
| vidd | we need the answer to that question (does xrandr see the missing resolutions) before we can get your desired solution | 18:05 |
| vidd | if xrandr does NOT show the desired resolutions, then the issue is outside my knowledge and expereance to assist | 18:06 |
| vidd | (but it is usually an issue of the proper proprietary driver needing to be installed) | 18:07 |
| FreeFull | How do I stop xfdesktop from autostarting? There was a checkbox in 8.10 but it's no longer there in 9.04 | 18:09 |
| vidd | FreeFull, are you looking to get a CLI-only option? | 18:10 |
| bytejumper | thanks | 18:11 |
| FreeFull | I just want to run a screensaver with -root option instead of xfdesktop | 18:11 |
| vidd | screensaver with -root option? | 18:14 |
| * vidd is not quite sure what you mean by that | 18:15 | |
| vidd | what does that do? | 18:15 |
| vidd | wb dahaic | 18:20 |
| dahaic | thanks :) i should probably look on the issue with VPN - I dont want to have all traffic routed through it :/ | 18:21 |
| vidd | dahaic, what ya trying to do? | 18:22 |
| dahaic | well, right now, I need to do something in licensed software for my studies, so I have to connect to university VPN to be able to connect via remote desktop to our terminal server | 18:24 |
| vidd | heh...thats insane! | 18:24 |
| dahaic | but as soon as I connect to VPN, all connections start to route through it, so it disconnects me :) | 18:24 |
| vidd | dahaic, so why not set up a VM | 18:25 |
| dahaic | security issue I suppose :) | 18:25 |
| dahaic | VM to run the soft on it, or what do you mean? | 18:25 |
| vidd | have the vm connect to the vpn | 18:25 |
| dahaic | ah | 18:25 |
| vidd | so that way all the traffic from the vm | 18:26 |
| vidd | and not the rest | 18:26 |
| vidd | =] | 18:26 |
| dahaic | heh :D | 18:26 |
| dahaic | and that wouldnt be insane? :D | 18:26 |
| vidd | where there is a will, tux has a way =] | 18:26 |
| vidd | well...yeah...graphically connecting to a cli machine is ludicrus | 18:27 |
| vidd | but ya got to do what ya got to do | 18:27 |
| dahaic | or maybe I will try to find routing table or how it is called and force to NOT connect to vpn unless it is rdesktop :P | 18:27 |
| dahaic | if possible of course :) | 18:28 |
| subtwo | dahaic: how do you connect to vpn? networkmanager? | 18:28 |
| vidd | anything is possible =] | 18:28 |
| dahaic | subtwo: yeah | 18:29 |
| subtwo | dahaic: what vpn? pptp? openvpn? | 18:29 |
| dahaic | pptp | 18:29 |
| subtwo | In ubuntu hardy I've a successful setup with VPN to remote network but only route traffic targeted to that specific network over VPN | 18:30 |
| dahaic | yea, i see some checkbox like that | 18:31 |
| subtwo | There is options in network-manager to enter routing rules | 18:31 |
| dahaic | use this connection onliy for resources on its network? | 18:31 |
| subtwo | As I said, I was running hardy and I know that network-manager has changed it's interface a bit since then so you have to try it out | 18:32 |
| subtwo | but, yes it sounds like it | 18:32 |
| dahaic | ok, lets try it :) | 18:34 |
| subtwo | You can easily check your routing table from the command line with: route | 18:35 |
| Marcurus | hmm, still the same :) | 18:36 |
| Marcurus | at least for the irc | 18:36 |
| subtwo | Also it is important that your local sub-network is different from the remote network (e.g. don't use 192.168.0.* for both networks) | 18:36 |
| subtwo | otherwise you can't distinguish packets to route via the VPN | 18:37 |
| Marcurus | well, I think I have public IP with VPN, it shouldnt interfere | 18:38 |
| gamepockets | vidd: are you busy?? | 18:38 |
| Marcurus | well, thanks for the tips guys, I will try to fiddle with the routing table later, right now I am pressed hard by deadline :D | 18:39 |
| subtwo | Marcurus: good luck to you then! :-) | 18:40 |
| gamepockets | can anyone help me set up a wired network? | 18:41 |
| Marcurus | thanks :) | 18:41 |
| subtwo | gamepockets: (don't ask to ask!) what is the problem? | 18:43 |
| gamepockets | i have a win laptop and a mac (xubuntu) want to transfer files over a wired network. | 18:43 |
| subtwo | Routers? DHCP? | 18:44 |
| gamepockets | dlink router | 18:44 |
| subtwo | Both machines are connected to the network? Do you know the IP of each computer? | 18:45 |
| gamepockets | yes, ithink | 18:45 |
| gamepockets | been using gftp but the win pc rejects connection | 18:46 |
| subtwo | What ftpserver do you use? Have you modified the firewall in windows to accept ftp connections? | 18:47 |
| vidd | hello gamepockets | 18:47 |
| subtwo | Another maybe easier way is to create a network samba share on the windows machine and connect to it with smbfs or smbclient or something from xubuntu | 18:47 |
| vidd | gamepockets, which machine has the ftp server? | 18:48 |
| gamepockets | vidd! you crafty b#st*rd... the mac (xu) | 18:48 |
| vidd | gamepockets, if the linux box has the server, then the ftp client needs to be on the win machine | 18:49 |
| gamepockets | wait a sec, i can transfer to my xbox with the linbox though... | 18:49 |
| * vidd recommends filezilla (filezilla-project.org) for ftp client on windows | 18:49 | |
| * knome recommends linux | 18:50 | |
| Marcurus | subtwo: btw, that option worked... except that right now I dont know how to say "use the VPN" so I am deselecting it again for now :D | 18:50 |
| knome | ;> | 18:50 |
| vidd | gamepockets, does the xbox have an ftp server on it? | 18:50 |
| gamepockets | filezilla won't load on the win (2000 pro) | 18:50 |
| gamepockets | it may, wait it has to.... i never installed a server on the lin | 18:50 |
| vidd | gamepockets, really? i never had any issue | 18:51 |
| Marcurus | ahah, I am marucurs.. am so stupid :/ :D | 18:51 |
| gamepockets | fresh install... won;t load | 18:51 |
| subtwo | Marcurus: if the routing table is correctly setup you should be able to access the remote network by just accessing the remote ip | 18:51 |
| vidd | gamepockets, then you will want to install an FTP server on a machine (i recommend doing so on the linux box) | 18:51 |
| subtwo | Marcurus: you may also want to tunnel DNS requests over the VPN to be able to use remote hostnames instead of IP-numbers | 18:52 |
| gamepockets | ok, the research into that seems a bit over my head. | 18:52 |
| vidd | then in M$, open windows explorer, and type address ftp://ip.of.linux.box | 18:52 |
| vidd | gamepockets, to get the ftp server on linux: sudo apt-get install proftpd | 18:53 |
| gamepockets | but don't i need to set the M$ firewall for ftp? | 18:53 |
| vidd | gamepockets, nope | 18:53 |
| gamepockets | huh... | 18:53 |
| vidd | by default, win2k doesnt come with a built in firewall | 18:53 |
| subtwo | gamepockets: that is assuming you would run the ftp server on windows | 18:54 |
| gamepockets | ah.. | 18:54 |
| gamepockets | with proftp do i want to use standalone? | 18:55 |
| * vidd doesnt even like to run windows on M$ machines! | 18:55 | |
| vidd | gamepockets, stand alone | 18:55 |
| gamepockets | excellent... | 18:56 |
| gamepockets | (insert diabolical laughter) | 18:56 |
| vidd | oh...and gamepockets , please dont PM without asking first...its considered rude ;) | 18:56 |
| gamepockets | aw sorry about that. | 18:57 |
| vidd | np | 18:57 |
| gamepockets | so how do i use this proftp? | 18:57 |
| vidd | what do you mean? | 18:58 |
| gamepockets | i don't see it. no gui? | 18:58 |
| subtwo | gamepockets: you have to configure it. look in /etc directory for proftpd configuration files | 18:58 |
| vidd | on your linux machine, you make sure the files you want to be able to transfer are in the /home directory | 18:58 |
| vidd | gamepockets, you dont need a gui | 18:59 |
| gamepockets | so it just "is" | 18:59 |
| vidd | the gui is the ftp CLIENT | 18:59 |
| gamepockets | oooooh! | 18:59 |
| gamepockets | (lightbulb) | 18:59 |
| vidd | just like apache is the web server....but you see web pages in the web client program (browser) | 19:00 |
| gamepockets | right.. | 19:00 |
| gamepockets | ok, think i got it. | 19:00 |
| gamepockets | once more, your my digital saviour... | 19:01 |
| vidd | older versions of M$ had ftp built into the OS | 19:01 |
| vidd | so if you open IE or WE and browse to ftp://[address] you can drag-and-drop like you can inside windows | 19:02 |
| gamepockets | nice! just make sure files to share are in home dir. | 19:03 |
| vidd | yes...the username and passwd are the same as your username and passwd in linux | 19:03 |
| gamepockets | you're the man vidd, njoy the holiday... | 19:04 |
| vidd | btw...there are some more advanced settings for proftp if you are interested =] | 19:04 |
| gamepockets | advanced?? | 19:04 |
| vidd | yes | 19:04 |
| vidd | you can set up ldap support.... | 19:04 |
| gamepockets | ? | 19:05 |
| vidd | multiple users having multiple access ponts.... | 19:05 |
| gamepockets | better stick with just the one | 19:05 |
| vidd | yeah =] | 19:05 |
| vidd | check out proftp's home page some time | 19:05 |
| gamepockets | definately | 19:06 |
| vidd | you might also want to check out the free on-line linux course | 19:06 |
| vidd | http://www.linux.org/lessons/ | 19:06 |
| vidd | wb Marcurus | 19:07 |
| gamepockets | yeah i was lookin at that, my old arch nemesis actually founded one of the ubuntu indiana teams... | 19:07 |
| Marcurus | :) thanks | 19:07 |
| === Marcurus is now known as dahaic | ||
| gamepockets | anyway, thanks vidd! | 19:08 |
| vidd | wb GaeliX | 19:15 |
| bytejumper | Hi All, I have trouble with apt-get, I have installed 'apt-get install doxbox', but when I run it, I get a message about missing the file libpulse-simple.so.0, which should be in the libpulse0 package, the libpulse0 package is installed, but the file is not available in the system | 20:31 |
| bytejumper | what should I do ? Sorry for the typo, dosbox, not doxbox | 20:31 |
| vidd | so you installed dosbox | 20:32 |
| bytejumper | yes, I have | 20:32 |
| vidd | then you ran dosbox and are getting this error? | 20:32 |
| bytejumper | yes, I'm running dosbox from a terminal | 20:32 |
| bytejumper | the file should be /usr/lib/libpulse-simple.so.0 | 20:33 |
| bytejumper | but the file doesn't exists | 20:33 |
| vidd | have you done a search of your system to make sure you have "missing" file? | 20:33 |
| bytejumper | yeah, find / -name "lib...." -print doesn't give any results | 20:33 |
| vidd | ok....one sec | 20:34 |
| bytejumper | ok | 20:34 |
| vidd | bytejumper, what version of libpulse-simple do you have? | 20:37 |
| vidd | if you cant tell...then do this: | 20:38 |
| vidd | sudo apt-get remove --purge libpulse0 && sudo apt-get install libpulse0 | 20:39 |
| vidd | now...you will also want to view what that takes out but does not put back | 20:40 |
| vidd | there is a "reinstall" command but i dont know what it is off the top of my head | 20:41 |
| vidd | something like "sudo dpkg-reconfigure {app} " | 20:41 |
| vidd | anoher thing you can do is download the .deb for libpulse and dpkg -i it | 20:42 |
| bytejumper | when I remove the libpulse0 package, many other packages will be removed | 20:43 |
| bytejumper | I find it very strange because this is a fresh (today) install | 20:43 |
| vidd | bytejumper, but i think you will find that your version of libpulse is 0.7.1 | 20:43 |
| FreeFull_ | I never used pulseaudio, always used alsa | 20:43 |
| vidd | bytejumper, yes? no? | 20:44 |
| bytejumper | one moment, the system uninstall packages | 20:45 |
| bytejumper | libpulse0 (1:0.9.14-0ubuntu20) | 20:45 |
| vidd | so you are not looking in the /etc file to see which version of the .so file you have? | 20:46 |
| bytejumper | no | 20:47 |
| vidd | did you already uninstall? | 20:47 |
| bytejumper | Yes | 20:47 |
| bytejumper | dosbox now works | 20:47 |
| bytejumper | but what is the reason for this problem ? | 20:47 |
| vidd | (oh im so shocked) | 20:47 |
| bytejumper | can You explain please ? | 20:47 |
| vidd | yeah... libpulse sucks | 20:47 |
| vidd | =] | 20:47 |
| bytejumper | I'm new to the apt-get thing, I'm a old Slackware and ArchLinux user | 20:48 |
| FreeFull_ | Someone didn't create the packages properly, that's the problem | 20:48 |
| bytejumper | hmmm, very odd, I have installed from the repo again | 20:48 |
| vidd | bytejumper, dosbox doesnt NEED libpulse to run.... | 20:48 |
| bytejumper | why for the first time it hasn't worked and for the second it worked ? | 20:48 |
| bytejumper | I know libpulse doesn't need libpulse :) | 20:49 |
| vidd | but since libpulse is there (and broken() it caused issues | 20:49 |
| bytejumper | ok | 20:49 |
| bytejumper | So, a broken package causes apt-get to get dummy ? | 20:49 |
| vidd | no... | 20:49 |
| vidd | your apt-get is fine | 20:50 |
| vidd | but a broken file can mess up other apps that use it | 20:50 |
| bytejumper | ok, but dosbox doesn't use libpulse | 20:50 |
| vidd | that isnt what i said.... | 20:50 |
| bytejumper | yes | 20:50 |
| bytejumper | so I don't understand where the problem lies | 20:50 |
| bytejumper | but I don't will waste Your time anymore | 20:51 |
| vidd | dosbox doesnt NEED it...but if its there, dosbox will use it | 20:51 |
| bytejumper | thank You for You help | 20:51 |
| vidd | does that help any? | 20:51 |
| bytejumper | yes :) | 20:52 |
| vidd | and you are NOT wasting my time.... | 20:53 |
| vidd | you have the potential to be one of the helpers here...because you want to understand...not just get the stuff to work =] | 20:53 |
| bytejumper | I thought apt-get manager is a more robust system against buggy packages | 20:54 |
| bytejumper | I have installed apt-file | 20:54 |
| bytejumper | and searched for the path for the missing library | 20:54 |
| vidd | no...unfortunantly...buggy packages are buggy packages | 20:54 |
| bytejumper | and I was very confused the missing file was not there | 20:55 |
| vidd | they will get installed just as well as decent packages | 20:55 |
| vidd | well....here is the thing..... | 20:55 |
| vidd | that file is a symbolic link to the actual libpulse.so | 20:56 |
| vidd | in my case libpulse-simple.0.0.2 | 20:56 |
| === FreeFull_ is now known as FreeFull | ||
| artistxe | would anyone know of a mirror for distros . I am looking for Puppy Tmxxine 3.01 Prism | 21:27 |
| vidd | artistxe, ??? | 21:29 |
| vidd | have you looked on puppy'ssite? | 21:29 |
| artistxe | yes. | 21:30 |
| vidd | what exactly is it that your looking for? | 21:30 |
| artistxe | keeps linking me to tmxxine site which has been down for awhile ( at least for downloads) | 21:31 |
| vidd | so your looking for puppy linux? | 21:31 |
| artistxe | the puplet Tmxxine Prism 3.01 iso | 21:31 |
| vinnl | What is the reason you're asking in #xubuntu and not in, say, #puppy? | 21:31 |
| vidd | vinnl, probly cuzz we answer? =] | 21:31 |
| vinnl | Haha :P | 21:31 |
| artistxe | true that ;) | 21:31 |
| artistxe | in all honesty , I respect the ppl in this room much more. | 21:32 |
| vidd | artistxe, so you want a puplet skin for your puppy install? | 21:33 |
| artistxe | no. | 21:33 |
| artistxe | is a remastered version of Puppy . Includes Python , Blender , Gimp , Inkscape. | 21:34 |
| vidd | so you want a puplet FVI | 21:34 |
| vinnl | artistxe, you might see if there's a torrent at http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrents | 21:34 |
| artistxe | vinn1 . good idea . thank you. | 21:35 |
| artistxe | :( nope | 21:36 |
| mib_rh2ecm8t | I know the xubuntu install size is around 1.5GB, can I install it to a 4GB pen drive - I am not looking for a live USB, I'd like a full install please. | 21:37 |
| vinnl | artistxe, the tmxxine website links to another site that I don't suppose is down | 21:37 |
| mib_rh2ecm8t | Can anyone help me with this? | 21:37 |
| vinnl | See the Google cache: http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:pgDJkI_rp0QJ:tmxxine.com/Wikka/wikka.php%3Fwakka%3DLinuxTmxxinePrism217+Puppy+Tmxxine+3.01+Prism+mirror&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=googlet | 21:37 |
| vinnl | mib_rh2ecm8t, why do you want a full install? | 21:38 |
| mib_rh2ecm8t | vinnl: they just work better - I've tried a persistent install and it isn't working. | 21:38 |
| vinnl | What method did you use? | 21:39 |
| artistxe | vinn . vs number . very important | 21:39 |
| vinnl | Ah, sorry | 21:39 |
| mib_rh2ecm8t | vinnl: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-xubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/#more-1564 | 21:39 |
| vinnl | mib_rh2ecm8t, you might try using the application included with the Xubuntu LiveCD to do it from there. Wait, I'll link you to a blog post of mine... | 21:40 |
| mib_rh2ecm8t | vinnl: I had a crunchbang install in this way and it worked pretty good - but there always seems to be driver issues, for example my Broadcom STA driver doesn't work so I have to stay wired for internet | 21:40 |
| vinnl | mib_rh2ecm8t, here: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/ubuntu-from-your-flash-drive-easier-than-ever-before/ | 21:41 |
| artistxe | and the pages lead me to the same dead links | 21:41 |
| vinnl | Hmm :S | 21:41 |
| mib_rh2ecm8t | vinnl: I'll take a look | 21:41 |
| mib_rh2ecm8t | vinnl: If I try it this way, will all my hardware drivers "stick"? So I can connect to wireless networks? | 21:43 |
| vinnl | mib_rh2ecm8t, I believe the drivers are supposed to be included. Do you install them afterwards? | 21:44 |
| mib_rh2ecm8t | vinnl: Yeah, I usually have to enable them, but when I have used the ubuntu create-usb feature - it won't locate the drivers until I have installed the distro, it was the same in CrunchBang. | 21:45 |
| mib_rh2ecm8t | vinnl: Is it not possible just to install it, like on a hard drive? | 21:46 |
| vinnl | Ah | 21:46 |
| vinnl | Well, I suppose it is possible, but not really recommended for the drive | 21:46 |
| mib_rh2ecm8t | Why not? | 21:47 |
| mib_rh2ecm8t | too many read/write cycles? | 21:47 |
| vinnl | Yeah | 21:47 |
| vinnl | Then again, I've written to mine so often and it still works :) | 21:48 |
| mib_rh2ecm8t | thought so =( | 21:48 |
| vinnl | And it leaves less space, I think you'll fill up 4 GB quite quickly | 21:48 |
| mib_rh2ecm8t | Oh well, I do have a wireless adapter that's pretty small and works in ubuntu+derivatives | 21:48 |
| mib_rh2ecm8t | I could just try that, with CrunchBang. | 21:49 |
| mib_rh2ecm8t | I'll try your method; thanks =) | 21:50 |
| owen1 | what audio should i choose? intel (alsa mixer) or realtek (OSS Mixer) | 22:01 |
| vidd | owen1, i personally recommend the alsa | 22:05 |
| owen1 | ok | 22:05 |
| vidd | owen1, but your going to want to use whatever works best for you | 22:06 |
| vidd | =] | 22:06 |
| === Sinister` is now known as Sinister | ||
| owen1 | can i remove xubuntu-desktop but keeping xfce? | 22:08 |
| owen1 | (with a single aptitude command) | 22:08 |
| ochosi | owen1, xubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package | 22:10 |
| ochosi | owen1, meaning: yes, you can remove it without removing xfce | 22:10 |
| owen1 | ochosi: ok. what do i have in xubuntu-desktop that is missing from xfce? | 22:11 |
| ochosi | owen1, the only problems that might occur are related to your next upgrade of xubuntu to karmic | 22:11 |
| owen1 | ochosi: what can happpend? | 22:11 |
| ochosi | owen1, dependency problems. you can easily work around that by installing the xubuntu-desktop package again before upgrading | 22:12 |
| vinnl | owen1, why do you want to remove xubuntu-desktop? | 22:12 |
| owen1 | ochosi: i though of creating cleaner desktop. | 22:13 |
| owen1 | ochosi: but u'r right. i'll keep it. | 22:13 |
| ochosi | owen1, the xubuntu-desktop package is a list of the standard set of apps from xubuntu including other stuff | 22:13 |
| ochosi | owen1, removing it won't make your desktop "cleaner" or "slimmer", unless you decide to remove the packages the meta-package refers to | 22:13 |
| owen1 | ochosi: got it. thanks | 22:14 |
| ochosi | owen1, if you want to see the list of dependencies of xubuntu-desktop (or any package for that matter), go to synaptic, rightclick the package > properties > dependencies | 22:14 |
| vinnl | Randomly uninstalling stuff won't make your desktop lighter | 22:15 |
| vinnl | There are much better ways to make it lighter | 22:15 |
| owen1 | vinnl: yeah, ochosi convinced me not to do it. | 22:16 |
| vinnl | I'd guide you through making it lighter, but I really need to get to bed now, sorry :) | 22:17 |
| owen1 | vinnl: no worries. thanks | 22:17 |
| vinnl | :) | 22:17 |
| vinnl | Bye | 22:17 |
| lesshaste | how do I take a screenshot in xubuntu? | 22:18 |
| owen1 | u can use scrot | 22:18 |
| lesshaste | gimp seems to be missing file->acquire and alt prtsc does nothing | 22:18 |
| lesshaste | how can I get gimp to work? | 22:18 |
| owen1 | just run it from terminal | 22:18 |
| lesshaste | is it a plugin? | 22:18 |
| lesshaste | I mean is there a screenshot plugin I need? | 22:19 |
| owen1 | lesshaste: no. package | 22:19 |
| lesshaste | owen1, what is it? | 22:19 |
| owen1 | lesshaste: sudo aptitude install scrot | 22:19 |
| lesshaste | I meant for gimp | 22:19 |
| lesshaste | but thanks | 22:19 |
| owen1 | lesshaste: ahh.don't know | 22:19 |
| ochosi | lesshaste, what version of the gimp are you using? | 22:20 |
| lesshaste | 2.6.1 | 22:20 |
| ochosi | lesshaste, and btw: there is no extra plugin. the screenshot function is included | 22:20 |
| lesshaste | there is no acquire menu under File | 22:20 |
| ochosi | lesshaste, should be in file > create > screenshot, no? | 22:20 |
| lesshaste | thanks! | 22:21 |
| lesshaste | I hate it when things move :) | 22:21 |
| ochosi | well, i guess they tried to make the menu easier | 22:22 |
| owen1 | when running totem i get: Gtk-Message: failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module". any clue? | 22:22 |
| ochosi | owen1, does totem work though? | 22:23 |
| owen1 | no. crashes. | 22:23 |
| ochosi | owen1, hmm. not really a clue, at first thought it might be related to your gtk-theme, but now i'm not so sure about that anymore | 22:23 |
| owen1 | i'll google for it. thank | 22:30 |
| owen1 | i want to remove some entries from the xfce menu but the 'xfce menu' option (it's the first item) is disabled. any ideas? | 23:01 |
| th0r | owen1: there is not a good menu editor for xfce, but you can change it by editing the .desktop files in /usr/share/...just a sec | 23:07 |
| owen1 | th0r: i used to tweak the menu by choosing the first option on the menu. from some reason it's disabled now. | 23:08 |
| th0r | owen1: jeez...getting old...have to look things up. /usr/share/applications. If you want to hide an entry just add the line 'NoDisplay=true' to the end of the file. If you want to add an entry just copy one of the existing ones and edit it | 23:08 |
| owen1 | th0r: great. i'll try it. | 23:08 |
| owen1 | what .desktop do i need to edit? i want to tweak the menu. | 23:12 |
| th0r | owen1: the menu is created on the fly from the .desktop files. What do you want to do? | 23:16 |
| owen1 | th0r: remove those entries: help, Abount Xfce and Log Out. | 23:17 |
| th0r | owen1: ok....just a sec | 23:17 |
| owen1 | th0r: those are the last 3 entries on the xfce menu | 23:17 |
| owen1 | th0r: i see xfce4-help-desktop. maybe i can delete it? | 23:18 |
| th0r | owen1: don't delete it....add that line I mentioned to the bottom. That will hide it in case you ever need it. | 23:19 |
| owen1 | th0r: ok. | 23:19 |
| th0r | owen1: no reboot necessary....it should immediately take effect in the menu | 23:19 |
| owen1 | th0r: i added NoDisplay=true at the end of xfce4-help.desktop but i still see the 'help' entry . | 23:21 |
| th0r | owen1: did you edit it using sudo...you can't save it as yourself....need root access | 23:21 |
| th0r | owen1: do 'sudo mousepad <filename.desktop> | 23:22 |
| owen1 | th0r: sudo vim (-: | 23:22 |
| th0r | owen1: I just hid both help and about that way | 23:22 |
| th0r | owen1: showoff | 23:22 |
| owen1 | th0r: let me try the about | 23:22 |
| th0r | owen1: if you look over the contents of a couple of those you will see why they sometimes appear in the menu with different names, and sometimes in two or more submenus | 23:23 |
| owen1 | th0r: it works for the about file. | 23:24 |
| th0r | owen1: have you ever used 'mc'? | 23:24 |
| owen1 | no. what's that? | 23:24 |
| th0r | owen1: it is a console file manager. You can invoke it with 'sudo mc' and it is terrific for doing simple editing of several files like you are doing now | 23:25 |
| owen1 | th0r: is it like norton commander ? | 23:25 |
| th0r | owen1: right...two panes much like nc | 23:25 |
| th0r | owen1: got the name there...midnight commander | 23:25 |
| owen1 | th0r: interesting. there is also a textbased file manager with vim-like keys. | 23:26 |
| owen1 | th0r: don't remember the name. vimfm or something. | 23:26 |
| th0r | owen1: well...I always had to struggle with vi so I am glad to find any alternatives <smile> | 23:27 |
| owen1 | th0r: print the vim's key mapping or set it as your background for a month. | 23:28 |
| th0r | owen1: nano works just as well for simple files when I don't want mc | 23:28 |
| owen1 | th0r: i learend vim and dvorak at the same time. fun! | 23:29 |
| th0r | owen1: never tried dvorak...but those who use it seem to swear by it | 23:29 |
| owen1 | th0r: what do u think of the help menu? it's still there.. | 23:29 |
| th0r | owen1: mine isn;t....check for a typo | 23:30 |
| owen1 | th0r: nevermind. it's not a big deal. | 23:36 |
| th0r | owen1: check for a duplicate. Do you have findutils installed? | 23:36 |
| owen1 | th0r: yes | 23:37 |
| th0r | owen1: locate xfce4-help.desktop | 23:38 |
| th0r | owen1: I added NoDisplay=true to the bottom of that file and the menu item disappeared. | 23:38 |
| owen1 | th0r: me too but it didn't.. | 23:38 |
| owen1 | th0r: nevermind. i have bigger issue. totem crashes with gtk-messege error. | 23:39 |
| th0r | owen1: dump it for vlc or mplayer | 23:39 |
| owen1 | mplayer works but when i open some files with it i get wierd error messege. (but it plays the file) | 23:40 |
| th0r | owen1: yeah...that is why my first default is vlc. Some of my files do give mplayer fits | 23:40 |
| owen1 | th0r: i am trying to restore some files from the Trash using thunar and get permission denied. | 23:43 |
| owen1 | th0r: any clue? | 23:43 |
| th0r | owen1: did you delete them using sudo? | 23:43 |
| owen1 | th0r: no. just drag and drop from thunar. | 23:44 |
| th0r | owen1: let me take a look at something | 23:44 |
| owen1 | i did it from terminal, but it's weird. | 23:46 |
| th0r | owen1: ok...~/.local/share/Trash | 23:46 |
| owen1 | yead. | 23:46 |
| owen1 | yeah | 23:46 |
| th0r | owen1: strange. I haven't tried drag and drop yet....let me give it a go and see.... | 23:46 |
| th0r | nope...works as advertised | 23:47 |
| owen1 | th0r: now it's working. not sure what happened. | 23:47 |
| owen1 | th0r: there is a wm based on openbox. i don't remember the name. something like xlce. have u heard of it? | 23:52 |
| th0r | owen1: doesn't ring a bell. | 23:53 |
| owen1 | th0r: http://www.lxde.org/ | 23:54 |
| owen1 | if anyone tried it and can compare to xubuntu, please share. | 23:56 |
| Aqa | hello so no solution for me screen resolution problem? any website to report this problem? | 23:58 |
| owen1 | also, if anyone is using xubuntu with awesome, i'll happy to hear about the experience. | 23:58 |
| Aqa | owen1, u xubuntu programmer? | 23:58 |
| owen1 | Aqa: no. ruby guy. | 23:59 |
| Aqa | ruby is girls name | 23:59 |
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