=== [o_O] is now known as danopia [00:38] Does anyone know why OOo looks like crap on xubuntu: http://firsm.sdf-eu.org/ooo.png ? [00:39] kind of looks like gtk1 [03:16] is there a gtk app similar to k9copy? === Paddy_EIRE_ is now known as Paddy_EIRE === R1coch3t is now known as R1cochet [04:10] how would i go about doing a non persistant install? of course i want to set things up first and i need to be able to do updates and things like that regularly [04:13] or is there a way to make a user that will be able to surf the internet and things like that but no files will be saved to disk after logout and no settings will be saved either? [04:24] any1 use dvd95 or dvdbackup? [05:35] hi i want to use xubuntu coz my pc is slow ubuntu is slow on my pc [05:35] DiCK454: dirty alias [05:35] lol [07:42] how to remove floppy and and and ..... trash icon from desktop? [07:43] how to remove Home icon from desktop? [07:45] what version? [07:46] 9.04 [07:46] i found now :D [07:46] thanks [07:46] apps>settings>xfce settings> [07:46] np [07:46] :) [07:47] it is fast now my pc with xubuntu :D [07:49] cool :) [07:49] what were u on b4? [07:50] fedora ubuntu [07:51] and xp :D [07:51] xp i hate now so much [07:51] what desktop environment is fedora? [07:51] fedora i dont know what is desktop environment [07:51] kde gnome xfce enlightenment [07:52] gnome i selected i dont know much [07:53] it is so fast that i am minimizing maximizing opened applications and windows again and again :D enjoying the speed :D [07:54] cool [07:54] looks like fedora is gnome environment [07:55] yes was gnome not that other kde i think of blue themes coz friend told that kde needs more fast pc [07:55] yea and its buggy [07:55] i have 2ghz 1gb ram [07:55] xfce ownz [07:57] i changed language to urdu (pakistani) but i cant see the change i need to restart ? [08:04] R1cochet, thanks [10:35] hey, what does /etc/apache2/sites-enabled do? [10:51] how to view my ntfs drives of xp from xubuntu? [10:51] !ntfs [10:51] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [10:52] knome that was easy in ubuntu [10:54] AqA, !fuse [10:54] ehm, [10:54] !fuse | AqA [10:54] AqA: FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE. Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems [10:54] i am not understanding those all :( [10:54] in ubuntu i just used to go to Home\ and there all my drives [10:57] AqA, if you want, you can use nautilus in xubuntu. it's more heavy than thunar, but it should work as in ubuntu. [10:58] knome, what are those things i dont know what is nautilus and thunar :-S [10:58] AqA, file browsers [10:58] where is thunar here [10:58] anywhere you browse files. [10:59] in thunar i dont see my ntfs [10:59] yes, as i said, you need nautilus to get them "easily" available [10:59] ntfs should be at left side selections like ubuntu [10:59] how to get nautilus [10:59] you can ask JPohlmann for that feature [10:59] go to synaptic, search for nautilus and install it. [11:02] in ubuntu 9.04 was giving that nice notifications for pidgin,,,, with black color for new messages and contacts online alerts, can i have like that in xubuntu? [11:02] we have disabled that by default and i don't know the procedure to get it back. [11:02] If you have mounted NTFS partitions, Thunar will let you browse them. Thunar has no direkt support for FUSE though. You'd have define FUSE mounts manually with an editor by editing /etc/fstab or by mounting from the command line. [11:03] AqA, may i ask you, why are you using xubuntu and not ubuntu if you want all the features ubuntu does? [11:03] AqA: I think you can. Install notify-osd and make sure you remove xfce4-notifyd before. [11:03] xubuntu is faster ubuntu was slowest [11:04] AqA, if you install nautilus + all the stuff ubuntu has, xubuntu will become as slow. [11:04] at least almost. [11:04] :( [11:04] my pc is not even that slower 1gb ram, 2ghz processor why these are slow for me [11:04] There's no way around that unfortunately. [11:04] Yeah, that doesn't sound too bad. [11:05] JPohlmann, how to mount ntfs? [11:05] mount -t ntfs [11:05] But that'll be read only. [11:05] I think [11:06] what is device name and mount point [11:06] JPohlmann: while thunar has no direct support for fuse, you can add custom actions that will appear in the right click menu for such commands [11:07] True [11:07] knome, i have installed nautilus with some other packages, still i dont see my partitions in thunar [11:09] You'll have to use Nautilus for file browsing then. [11:09] wao wao wao i just found network monitor option in my panel :D [11:09] I don't recommend that. [11:10] Remove nautilus and add a mount point for your NTFS partition to /etc/fstab. [11:10] JPohlmann, how to do that explain more [11:10] step by step [11:10] Install ntfs-3g [11:11] ok [11:11] Done? [11:11] terminal said No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. [11:12] Ok, let me take a look. [11:12] synaptic says ntfs-3g already installed [11:13] Ah, good [11:13] next? [11:14] What does "ls -la /dev/sd?" on the command line give you? Please paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com. [11:14] how do you browse networks in Xubuntu? [11:15] ls: cannot access /dev/sd: No such file or directory [11:15] zethero2: No easy way to do it. You can mount network shares using gigolo though. [11:16] JPohlmann, out put ls: cannot access /dev/sd: No such file or directory [11:16] AqA: "ls -la /dev/hd?" maybe? [11:16] JPohlmann, ls: cannot access /dev/hd: No such file or directory [11:16] JPohlmann: you mean you cannot browse networks like in Ubuntu ? [11:17] zethero2: Not with any of the core programs of Xfce at least. [11:17] ok [11:17] what do I need to install? [11:17] I don't know [11:17] won't bother asking why this is not a something built into the OS ... [11:18] seems rather obsurd [11:18] AqA: Ok, please post the output of "ls -la /dev/" on paste.ubuntu.com and post the link here. [11:18] zethero2: it is in the os...just not in xfce [11:19] th0r: aka ... not fully functional in Xubuntu [11:19] No, it's not absurd. First, it's not a feature of the OS. And second, Xfce has a very small developer team (~6 people working on the core of it). [11:19] ? [11:19] So we just can't implement *everything*. [11:19] I mean I love it .. its so fast!!! [11:19] JPohlmann, http://paste.ubuntu.com/179446/ [11:19] JPohlmann: are you on the team...always wanted to thank one of you [11:19] but browsing networks is pretty common no!? [11:19] th0r: I think so, yes ;) Thanks! [11:20] YEs xubuntu is fast :D [11:20] zethero2: you can get better network browsing in xfce then in gnome using fusesmb, but it takes some work [11:20] zethero2: It is. But it's not exactly easy to implement, I suppose. [11:20] but I guess there has to be a balance between speek and features ... right ... [11:20] speed* [11:20] right [11:21] AqA: Can you paste the output of "fdisk -l /dev/sda"? [11:21] is this the way to go? [11:21] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131 [11:21] JPohlmann, Cannot open /dev/sda [11:22] JPohlmann, i think last time i did not shut down my xp properly [11:22] AqA: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" then. [11:23] JPohlmann, http://paste.ubuntu.com/179449/ [11:23] ok ... so I am guessing nautilus will not work in Xubuntu? [11:24] zethero2: it will work, but will carry all the gnome overhead with it [11:24] zethero2: The link looks ok, you could try that ... or try pyNeighborhood [11:24] pyNeighborhood ... is that an app? [11:24] th0r: right ... thought as much [11:24] zethero2: if you try fusesmb you should know that you will need to retrofit libsmbclient to 3.0.28a [11:25] zethero2: I had to search a week to find that one [11:25] AqA: Now open /etc/fstab in an editor (as root). [11:25] th0r: ok ,,, whatever that meant .. ha ... pretty much a noob here ... only using Linux for 2 years or so [11:25] zethero2: the new libsmbclient breaks fusesmb...so you need to download an older one and install it [11:26] JPohlmann, give command with editor and as root user i have forgotten :-S [11:26] zethero2: Yes, pyNeighborhood is an application. [11:26] zethero2: if you google 'fusesmb libsmbclient' it should get yo uto more info [11:26] AqA: Try "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" from the terminal. [11:26] JPohlmann, sudo: gedit: command not found [11:26] th0r: ok well I think I will try that other mentioned ap then first ... [11:27] AqA: Right, haha. You're using Xubuntu after all ... [11:27] AqA: Try "sudo mousepad /etc/fstab". [11:27] so what makes Xubuntu so fast? [11:27] JPohlmann. [11:27] ;> [11:27] zethero2: among other things...the lack of network browsing [11:28] rat makes xubuntu fast light weight [11:28] ha [11:28] Well, basically ... [11:28] no fair [11:28] JPohlmann, opened text editor [11:28] Small team, fewer applications and libraries, simple foundations (no Mono, few bindings, mainly just C code), less features. [11:29] Working on the features though ;) [11:29] ok [11:29] oh i never thought C is that powerful [11:29] would desktop effects work? [11:29] JPohlmann: a suggestion...keep the features optional like the custom commands in thunar [11:30] AqA: Well, on top of assembler, C is *the* foundation for most other programming languages. [11:30] th0r: That works sometimes but not always. [11:31] AqA: Try adding a line like this to your /etc/fstab: [11:31] /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs auto,defaults,user,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 [11:31] JPohlmann: I know....but I stick with xfce for thunar and the custom commands...I love that idea [11:31] JPohlmann: and I certainly don't need transparent windows...I have a hard enough time seeing the screen at my age [11:32] th0r, what are custom commands [11:32] Where /dev/sda1 is the NTFS partition you want to mount, /media/sda1 is the mount point (you probably want to rename it to something like /media/windows). Use gid=1000 though. [11:32] JPohlmann, which line to add? [11:32] AqA: At the end of the file. [11:32] JPohlmann, this line? /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs auto,defaults,user,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 [11:32] Yeah [11:32] With the changes I suggested. [11:33] Oh, and try to add uid=1000 as well (replace 1000 of "echo $UID" gives you a different number). [11:34] /dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs auto,defaults,user,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1,uid=1000 JPohlmann [11:34] No [11:34] /dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs auto,defaults,user,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=1000,uid=1000 0 1 [11:35] added [11:35] save document now? [11:35] Yep [11:35] Then create /media/windows ("sudo mkdir /media/windows && chown 1000.1000 /media/windows") [11:37] JPohlmann, chown: changing ownership of `/media/windows': Operation not permitted [11:38] AqA: Right, put a sudo in front of the second command. [11:38] My bad [11:38] JPohlmann, i did not know that i am xubuntu of ur hands :-S if u come to my office i shall serve u tea [11:38] sudo mkdir /media/windows && sudo chown 1000.1000 /media/windows [11:38] Yep [11:38] JPohlmann, mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/windows': File exists [11:38] Right. Just run the second command then. [11:39] which was first and second [11:39] Anybody know how to turn off smileys in emesene? [11:39] In settings there's only an option of choosing "Default" smiley theme. :/ [11:39] AqA: sudo chown 1000.1000 /media/windows [11:40] JPohlmann, done [11:40] AqA: Now try to mount the partition with "sudo mount /media/windows". [11:41] You only have to do that manually now because I don't want to make you restart your machine. After that it should be mounted automatically. [11:41] If it works now, that is. [11:41] JPohlmann, [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab [11:42] AqA: Add an empty line at the end of /etc/fstab then ;) [11:42] Try to browse /media/windows with Thunar now. [11:43] JPohlmann, there is only my C xp partition [11:43] AqA: But it's there, cool! [11:44] You'll have to do the same for the other partitions (/dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6). [11:44] JPohlmann, there are others all :D [11:44] JPohlmann, they are already there all :D [11:44] sudo gedit /etc/fstab [11:44] If you need these two: [11:44] /dev/sda5 1218 2434 9775521 7 HPFS/NTFS [11:44] /dev/sda6 3652 4868 9775521 7 HPFS/NTFS [11:45] Just do the same thing again as you did for /dev/sda1. You only have to change /media/windows to something else for them, so e.g. use /media/windows-d for /dev/sda5 if that points to D:\\. [11:45] Something like that. It's up to you. [11:45] JPohlmann, why sda5 and sda6 my all partitons are already shown [11:45] That's weird. [11:46] But if they are ... fine. [11:46] JPohlmann, even there are /media/windows and it is with other name "Disk" is too already present [11:47] Hmm. Maybe even C:\\ was there already before we did that fstab thing ;) [11:48] Let me know if you have any problems with that. I'll have to prepare for Barcelona now. [11:48] JPohlmann, they are fine [11:48] JPohlmann, what line i have to insert at the end of sudo mkdir /medi [11:49] sudo gedit /etc/fstab ** [11:50] ? [11:51] JPohlmann, JPohlmann> AqA: Add an empty line at the end of /etc/fstab then ;) [11:52] th0r, welcome back [11:54] JPohlmann, thanks so much for the time and help :) see u later, thanks all [11:57] my screen has been slided to right ( left side is black about one inch ) How can i rotate it with writing xorg.conf? [12:08] pyNeighborhood is not mounting any of the shared folders on the network [12:09] * JPohlmann is off, traveling to UDS [12:11] how do I get pyNeighborhood to mount shared folders? [12:49] how can I check what process is using my swap? [12:56] I am having trouble with 2 partitions on my external hdd, could someone help me out please [12:58] <_Pete_> what's the exact problem with partitions? [12:59] I have a 250 gig hdd in 5 partitions of 50 gigs each [12:59] all ntfs [13:00] they were working fine untill when i was burning some data out of them i got some delayed write error (in win xp) and after that they are empty [13:01] empty in the sense that i cant see the data but free space is what it was before (i.e. ~2-3 gb in those 2 partitions) [13:01] <_Pete_> dunno [13:02] <_Pete_> maybe best shot is to try some windows recovery tool [13:02] in xp only 1 drive was empty but in linux 2 drives are! [13:02] hmmm [13:02] and everything was just fine until i burnt data out of it :( [13:03] i was hoping linux would have some reliable tool/ method to handle such screw ups [13:11] no one has a solution? [13:11] :( [13:23] there must be a way to add smb privileges to the user right? [13:32] I am setting my screen resolution but every time i restart my xubuntu my screen resolution settings are not saved [13:33] سلام [13:33] good [13:43] Is it possible to create a shortcut like "Filesystem" on my desktop just for another harddrive? [13:43] Slonkie, sure, just link to the mount point [13:44] Would you mind explaining that more detailed? [13:44] Slonkie: is the other hd mounted now? maybe /media/? [13:45] Slonkie, yeah actually add "thunar" first [13:46] ah i realised.. damn things are so easy [13:46] Thanks both of ya :) [13:46] hehe good to hear :) [13:47] Slonkie: we could make them harder if you like [13:48] No reason to ;) [13:49] Well another question then.. Is it possible to add this link to sidepane right beneath the Filesystem link? [13:49] link/shortcut [13:49] I made a launcher on the desktop. [13:53] why it is happening with me :(( always i have to set screen resolution and always my panel things change their positions [13:54] Slonkie: again easy...right click the folder in thunar and send it to the side pane [13:55] Slonkie: and if I remember right you can order the links in the sidepane by dragging them around the sidepane [13:56] Well if i send the folder to sidepane the logo isen't what i want it to be [13:56] i wanna send the launcher to the sidepane, which isen't possible [13:57] Slonkie: you're right. When I created a launcher with a custom command line I found I had to actually create a bash script with the commandline and link to that [13:58] Slonkie: but I thought you were linking to a hard drive [13:58] * Slonkie wouldn't know how to do a bash script and link to that [13:58] I am, th0r. [13:58] Slonkie: where is the hard drive mount point? [13:59] It's /media/storage/ [13:59] Slonkie: if you right click on /media/storage you should be able to add 'storage' to the sidepane [13:59] yes [13:59] as i said that doesn't have the "harddrive" icon that i want it to have. [14:00] Slonkie: ah....I see. I don't know of a way to change the icon [14:00] Okay :) [14:00] Slonkie: however...sounds like an interesting item....(going to google) [14:02] :) [14:10] Slonkie: those links are stored in ~/.gtk-bookmarks but there is no icon info there [14:23] Hello all: I very new to scripting, and would like to know if it is possible to automate online tasks (like logging everyday into the same html/js site, updating some stuff and logging out again) via a script ? Which language would you recommand ) Perl ? Thanks for your help. [14:26] qwerkus: it is possible to automate daily tasks, but, for instance, once you open the firefox browser there is no way to automate what IT does [14:27] qwerkus: you might be able to use wget to download items from the web automatically...it is a command line program [14:28] qwerkus: and as far as a language you should investigate using shell scripting. There are several good tutorials on the linux documentation project (tldp.org) [14:29] know about wget, but it cannot INTERACT with web contents [14:29] qwerkus: right...I don't know of any way to automate the interaction. [14:29] no problem: thanks for your help [14:29] its becoming increasingly frustrating to get DVD playback to work in *buntu [14:30] !dvd [14:30] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [14:30] I install the libdvdcss packages and install them etc ... and still nothing [14:30] zethero2: only one answer: MPLAYER [14:30] zethero2: or vlc [14:30] I have been getting DVD playback going in Ubuntu for about 2 years but its never goes like they say it should [14:31] "they" ? Who's "they" ? [14:31] look at what this guy says .. http://linuxmoderate.wordpress.com/2008/08/01/a-quick-look-at-xubuntu-xtreme/ [14:31] DVD playback worked, but not quite perfectly. Inserting a commercial DVD brought up Totem Movie Player, which couldn’t play it. VLC, however, which is one of the extras you get with Xubuntu Xtreme, played the DVD just fine [14:31] zethero2: I just finished a fresh install of jaunty and it went out of the box, although Totem never worked for me...I always immediately install both mplayer and vlc [14:31] well I always also install VLC [14:31] but that does not do the trick .. [14:32] Totem is calibrated to work only with opensource codecs [14:32] mind you I am using Hardy here [14:32] but still [14:32] I gave up on Totaem long ago [14:32] that's why it doesn t wok out-of-the box in most of time [14:32] to play dvds with totem or mplayer requires codecs although vlc does not [14:32] one you manually configure it, it works well... [14:32] yes, but i found out vlc to be far less flexible than mplayer [14:33] of course, it can be tricky to learn all the command-line options... [14:33] For an example: try mkv with vlc, you might be surprised ! [14:34] mkv plays in vlc, performance depends on system though [14:34] mikechelen: vlc never works for me unless I install some other packages .... [14:34] anyhow my problem is just that I want to play a commercial DVD here and cannot .. dunno what I am missing... again [14:34] zethero2, for what kind of files? it usually seems to work for me [14:35] to install codecs quickly use the ubuntu-restricted-extras package [14:35] zethero2: can you play ANY commercial dvds? [14:35] or xubuntu- i guess [14:36] mikechelen: what do you mean by what kind of files?... its a commercial dvd ... so its .vob and .ifo etc etc [14:36] th0r: nothing... [14:36] ok I'll install restricted-extras [14:36] zethero2, ah ok, that probably does required restricted components [14:36] agreed [14:36] even vlc will not play it? [14:36] mikechelen: nope [14:36] mikechelen: need libdvdcss2 [14:37] I installed that already [14:37] and another one [14:37] libdvdread3 I think [14:37] th0r, ah okay, well once thats added then all the players should work [14:38] nope [14:38] zethero2: you sure the dvd is calibrated to your geographic zone ? [14:38] installed and still no playback [14:38] mikechelen: won't promise anything about totem [14:38] qwerkus: please rephrase that question -- ha [14:38] zethero2: run vlc or mplayer from a terminal and then open the file, see what error you get [14:40] http://pastebin.com/m1cf6215a [14:40] here you are [14:41] zethero2: http://www.infrench.com/Merchant2/dvd_zones.htm [14:41] If you try to play a dvd from another zone, it just won't work ... [14:41] oh your talking about regions [14:41] as in DVD Regions [14:42] yes ... I am all ok with that ... [14:42] Where are you from ? Your pastebin error shows: "DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00f70000. Regions: 4" [14:43] Australia - NewZealand ... [14:43] yes ... region 4 ... Australia [14:43] and my drive is set to region 4 [14:43] ok [14:43] zethero2: jeez...don [14:44] zethero2: let me try that again....don't recognize that error at all, not sure what is happening. It looks like everything is going well, then crash [14:44] I have had this in Ubuntu as well ... everything is there supposedly but its just not happening [14:45] zethero2: do you have libdvdnav installed? [14:45] never checked ... [14:45] zethero2: it is libdvdnav4 in jaunty [14:45] zethero2: while yu are there check libdvdread4 also [14:46] still downloading restricted-extras ... [14:46] slow downloads for some reason [14:46] zethero2: the data has to get all the way across the pacific! [14:46] but I mean I have never needed it before ... [14:47] well usually I get about 150 kb/s ... now its 50 - 60 kb/s [14:48] gonna have to wait for this to finish before doing anything else ... tsktsk [14:49] zethero2: any local mirrors? [14:49] yes [14:49] using the one here [14:49] in Australia [14:49] anyhow ... I asked before about desktop effects and don't remember what the answer was .. or if there was one [14:49] too bad i was very happy that xubuntu is compatible with my system but now its screen resolution problem is giving me headache :( [14:50] xubuntu is only linux fast with my pc all others are slow [14:50] zethero2: from the printout you have libdvdnav 0.1.10 and jaunty is 4.1.3...could you have a very old version of that? [14:50] uh ... [14:50] like ubuntu there was launchpad for bug reports etc , is there anything to report bugs for xubuntu? [14:50] whichever comes with Hardy [14:51] I guess its just the Hardy version of libdvdnav ... [14:52] thing is that I am running Ubuntu hardy on another laptop here and it plays DVD's just fine [14:52] Ubuntu Hardy that is [14:53] zethero2: I just ran vlc from the terminal and started a dvd....got this...libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.3 [14:53] ok [14:53] and the version on my other laptop in Ubuntu Hardy is [14:54] zethero2: Have you tried medibuntu repository? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu [14:54] When xubuntu will fully upgrade to 9.04? still most of the things are of 8.10 [14:54] libdvdnav4 version 0.1.10-0.2 [14:54] zethero2: did you by chance install that from source? Your printout says ....libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 0.1.10 from http://dvd.sf.net [14:55] subtwo: I have before ... on other machines and had the same issues ... sometimes it works sometimes it does not ... but really it should not be needed [14:55] zethero2: where does dvd.sf.net come in? (maybe a hardy thing I don't know about [14:55] zothero2: ok, just checking... [14:55] th0r: that is the version on the Ubuntu machine ... not the Xubuntu one ... and no not installed from source [14:55] th0r: I really dunno [14:56] zethero2: ok...I am running xfce on an ubuntu install aslo. Just really surprised at the version difference [14:56] zethero2: s/aslo/also [14:56] th0r: I'll see in a minute if I can upgrade libdvdnav [14:57] just got to let this thing finish installing [14:57] zethero2: check for liba52....when your vlc crashes mine says this....[00000424] a52 decoder: A/52 channels:6 samplerate:48000 bitrate:448000 [14:58] msttcorefonts installing [14:58] almost there [14:59] ;-) === sancas_ is now known as sancas [15:00] msttcorefonts still installing ... [15:00] :-/ [15:01] zethero2: you should at least upgrade to a 386 [15:01]