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astrommeRiddell: iirc it has gone from playground -> kdereview -> extragear which means it is nearing a reelase00:05
astrommeoh jebus... I thought I was at the bottom of my quassel backlog, guess not00:05
* astromme was referring to the googledata akonadi resources00:06
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* Hobbsee grins evilly02:45
ScottKneversfelde: Can you join #debian-qt-kde on IFTC?  They want to discuss your application for svn access.08:43
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ScottKIt looks like boost1.38 is what we are aiming for for Karmic.  It'd be really helpful to get a volunteer to test build Qt/KDE stuff against 1.38  and see if it works.09:05
MamarokScottK: ask eagles...09:06
* Mamarok hides09:06
* ScottK doesn't want it that bad.09:07
Mamarokhe managed to screw up his installation by compiling KDE from trunk, but actually only part of it because he was too lazy to read *all* the documentation on techbase...09:08
ScottKWell obviously he didn't screw it up badly enough as he got back online.09:09
vishalraoquestion: im trying to include oxygen style inside qtcurve style so that i can render oxygen progress bar inside qtcurve. how do i indicate in cmake file that qtcurve.so depends/links to oxygen.so ?09:16
Riddellvishalrao: we're at a conference, #kde-devel probably know better09:34
Riddellkoffice 2.0 uploaded to karmic10:37
Riddelljaunty compiling10:37
faboRiddell: any plan for Qt 4.5.1 in jaunty-backports ?11:33
ScottKfabo: No.11:35
ScottKLast time we backported Qt (In Hardy) it didn't go well.11:35
faboScottK: no as no plan or no as forget it ? :)11:35
ScottKNo as in no, we don't plan on doing it.11:35
ScottKIf someone were to figure out how to test is sufficiently to convince me it's reasonably safe, I think we could configure it.11:36
ScottKI doubt anyone is up to the required level of effort.11:36
Riddellit would require all the phonon stuff to be changed back11:39
ScottKThat too.11:41
faboit started as a request from danimo about qt creator backport11:41
fabodunno, if it worths the effort11:42
Riddellfabo:11:43
Riddellfabo: it's from https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental11:43
Riddellit's in rather11:43
faboI take a look, thks.11:44
JontheEchidnaI did backport my Qt merge from before Riddell did the Phonon stuff11:48
JontheEchidnaI think it'd only be a matter of testing11:48
RiddellJontheEchidna: is that the one in  ?11:48
RiddellJontheEchidna: is that the one in  ~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental ?11:48
JontheEchidnaRiddell: yes11:49
Riddellgroovy11:50
JontheEchidnaI also copied it over to the new experimental, so KDE 4.2.85 users will have it too11:51
JontheEchidnaoh, wait, you said kubuntu-ppa/experimental11:51
* JontheEchidna is still sleepy11:51
jarleI have decided to stop using experimental ppa, after removing the experimental software source, what will I need to downgrade to the stable pacakages of the installed programs?13:10
Mamarokjarle: ... that might be quite tricky to acheive, do you have a separate /home partition?13:23
Mamarokjarle: there is no downgrade option so far13:23
Mamarokjarle: go to #kubuntu for support though13:24
jarleMamarok: I do have a seperate /home partition. I enabled experimental ppa only to be able to install latest amarok, however it only crashed on me and launchpad apparently did not want any bug reports for experimental pacakages, so I do not want to run experimental anymore...13:25
Mamarokjarle: you didn't install something else than Amarok beta then?13:26
Mamarokjarle: btw, bug reports go to bugs,kde,org for Amarok beta :)13:27
jarleMamarok: a lot of other KDE packages was automatically updated to the version found on the ppa rep, when I did "apt-get upgrade"13:27
Mamarokjarle: then you will have to reinstall I fear, downgrading is too complicated13:28
Mamarokjarle: when enabling repos outside the current release, you should choose manually what you want to install13:28
Mamarokjarle: but you can very well keep 4.2.3, it's bugfixing stuff so it doesn't hurt13:29
jarleMamarok: after enabling experimental ppa, it's not easy keeping it from updating other packages when you once in a while do a "apt-get upgrade" :(13:31
Mamarokjarle: yes, it is: choose and install only the packages you want, then disable the PPA13:31
Mamarokbut again, jarle, that does not belong here but in #kubuntu13:32
jarleMamarok: thnx, as long as I'm able to revert to the old version of amarok I'll be fine13:33
neversfeldeScottK: my application for svn access?13:35
NightroseRiddell: JontheEchidna: still no luck with amarok 2.1 beta 2? final tagging is only a few days away and I am not going to release final without kubuntu packages - would really be nice to get that sorted out - anyone else I can bug while you are busy?13:50
Nightroseor anything else I can do to help?13:51
neversfeldeNightrose: 2:2.0.96mysql5.1.30-0ubuntu1 isn't that beta2?13:55
Nightroseneversfelde: it is but it crashes on startup13:55
Nightroseunusable13:55
neversfeldeit is in karmic, but I have not tested it13:55
Nightrose(at least on jaunty)13:56
seelewill the icecast streams open up soon? there is supposed to be a kde session in 5 minutes14:05
seelecan't hear anything on the icecast14:15
seelelame14:17
Riddellseele: sebas is just showing 4.3 to people currently14:19
ScottKneversfelde: Sorry.  Mixed up my irc nics.14:19
neversfeldeScottK: ok :)14:19
seeleRiddell: i doubt the audio is going to improve once he starts saying something important14:20
ScottKHe's pretty soft spoken.14:20
seeleare there room irc channels?14:23
Riddellseele: no, there's #ubuntu-devel-summit and gobby docs for sessions with specs (not this one)14:23
seelewho is talking now? agateau?14:38
Riddellseele: you can hear?14:50
seeleRiddell: yes, the audio somehow improved14:50
seelewhen sebas was giving his presentation it was very muffled and i couldnt understand him14:51
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seeledoh.. audio cut out14:55
Riddelllame :(14:59
seelewhat was the final resolution?15:08
seeleanyone else having trouble connecting to the gobby server?15:12
yuriymost of us here are having trouble connecting to any server most of the time15:13
seelewhat is the name of the document?15:14
yuriyseele: kubuntu-karmic-development15:18
seeleyuriy: thanks15:18
seeledid you guys every find the kpackagekit dude?15:24
seele* threading issue15:25
seele* a few areas for ui improvement15:25
ScottKseele: Can you here.15:29
ScottKhere/hear?15:29
seelethe kpackagekit guys got the report, i dont know how much they will be fixing15:29
seeleand i only reviewed the upgrade dialog not the entire applications15:30
seeleyes15:30
seeleoh ow15:30
Tonio_hey seele !! we miss you here :'(15:31
seeleTonio_: i'm sorry i cant be there :(15:31
Tonio_seele: I know :)15:32
seelewe DO customize it15:46
seelewe've customized our panel and desktop widgets for optimal defaults15:46
kwwiiright15:47
rgreeningyeah15:48
seelecouncil decision15:48
rgreeningo/15:48
yuriybut the overall look is regular KDE - we  don't have our own branding like SUSE's green for example15:48
kwwiibut we have had our own wallpapers and such in the past15:48
seelesure15:49
kwwiiand window deco, style, etc15:49
seeleman.. this is hard.. people not in uds have no idea about my comments heh15:49
seeleyes15:55
rgreening:)15:56
seelewe *do* create use cases for descision making15:58
seeleargh15:58
* seele waves her hands and yells really loud15:59
macoseele, are you listening to us jabbering over here?16:11
yuriyseele: I think the question was have we written up use cases specifically for quassel so we can make this decision16:20
seeleyuriy: ah. my response was "we created use cases to discuss whether or not we should use quassel, and if so, what needs to change"16:34
txwikinger_workAnything exciting going on at UDS?17:07
Mamaroktxwikinger_work: work, I guess17:19
Mamarokas usual17:19
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: UDS dinner 8pm in foyer | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicSpecs | Sync/Merges: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/multidistrotools/kubuntu-desktop.html | Be careful whilst packaging | Transitions: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/rgreening/KarmicPhononPackages and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ScottKitterman/Libplasma-Dev
Riddell UDS dinner 8pm in foyer17:20
* txwikinger_work wants dinner too17:20
Riddellthey eat tea late in this country, I'm hungry already17:23
Riddelltxwikinger_work: setting default browser to Arora was not greeted with universal dislike17:23
Riddellinfact it had quite a lot of like17:23
ryanakcaRiddell: Is there any reason why *not* to put it as default , apart form it not being the KDE default?17:24
freeflyingRiddell: got any place for dinner?17:24
txwikinger_workRiddell: I have never seen Arora17:24
Riddellfreeflying: yes we are going out with albert from KDE, meet 8pm in the foyer to go into town17:24
txwikinger_workDoes it at least take less resources?17:24
Riddellryanakca: kwallet, ad block, some people like their extensions, doesn't fit in with kde proxy settings, stuff like that17:25
* txwikinger_work would like to see some lightweight apps17:25
Riddelltxwikinger_work: yes17:25
ryanakcaRiddell:17:25
txwikinger_workIt is ridiculous.. I am getting a 16GB workstation now at work, because everything is so slow with 1GB17:25
ryanakcas/$/Ah, I see/g17:25
smarterRiddell: adblock is currently being developed and will hopefully be merged for the next release17:46
smarterconcerning kwallet, that might be something I should do :]17:47
* smarter adds it somewhere in his todo list17:47
seelehmm.. is it possible to talk about bluetooth sometime this week too? it seems to still be pretty unreliable17:52
apacheloggersalut!18:04
Mamaroksalut apachelogger !18:12
Mamarokcomment va?18:12
apacheloggerca va18:12
apacheloggerso, I suppose everyone is at UDS by now?18:12
* jussi01 waves to apachelogger18:13
* apachelogger would consider that a perfect time to break all of gnome18:13
Riddellseele: maybe in the QA session, but I doubt we have the manpower to do much about it18:16
jussi01Hrm, anyone seen this kind of thing before? http://jussi01.com/upload/uploads/20090525-204208-snapshot8.png18:42
jussi01ie. the +/- on the middle bottom...18:42
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Riddellthat looks a bit messed18:45
jussi01yeah, just a little18:45
jussi01:D18:46
apacheloggerjussi01: are you affected by graphics problem stuff?18:48
jussi01apachelogger: no. my nvidia works well - I assume you mean the intel issues?18:49
apacheloggeryes18:49
apacheloggerjussi01: well, go over to #amarok and throw the snapshot at someone18:49
Riddellsmarter_: people were wondering if arora was likely to get a general extensions mechanism18:53
smarter_Riddell: yup18:53
smarter_icefox worked on it at some point, but I doubt it'd be ready anytime soon18:53
RiddellScottK, ryanakca, kwwii, maco, anyone, gather for dinner in 5 downstairs18:54
smarter_it's kind of a huge task :)18:54
smarter_Riddell & fellow kubunteros: bon appétit ;)18:55
ryanakcayuriy: comming for supper?19:07
* apachelogger just fell asleep while watching a pbuild19:31
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Quintasanapachelogger: ping20:55
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Quintasanapachelogger: not imporatant now, I fix'ed the desc error, everything should be right now,21:16
Mamaroklooks like the dependencies on 4.3 for Jaunty are slightly borked...21:30
Mamaroka user upgraded today, it failed to install kwin and kdebase...21:30
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