[00:05] <astromme> Riddell: iirc it has gone from playground -> kdereview -> extragear which means it is nearing a reelase
[00:05] <astromme> oh jebus... I thought I was at the bottom of my quassel backlog, guess not
[00:06]  * astromme was referring to the googledata akonadi resources
[02:45]  * Hobbsee grins evilly
[08:43] <ScottK> neversfelde: Can you join #debian-qt-kde on IFTC?  They want to discuss your application for svn access.
[09:05] <ScottK> It looks like boost1.38 is what we are aiming for for Karmic.  It'd be really helpful to get a volunteer to test build Qt/KDE stuff against 1.38  and see if it works.
[09:06] <Mamarok> ScottK: ask eagles...
[09:06]  * Mamarok hides
[09:07]  * ScottK doesn't want it that bad.
[09:08] <Mamarok> he managed to screw up his installation by compiling KDE from trunk, but actually only part of it because he was too lazy to read *all* the documentation on techbase...
[09:09] <ScottK> Well obviously he didn't screw it up badly enough as he got back online.
[09:16] <vishalrao> question: im trying to include oxygen style inside qtcurve style so that i can render oxygen progress bar inside qtcurve. how do i indicate in cmake file that qtcurve.so depends/links to oxygen.so ?
[09:34] <Riddell> vishalrao: we're at a conference, #kde-devel probably know better
[10:37] <Riddell> koffice 2.0 uploaded to karmic
[10:37] <Riddell> jaunty compiling
[11:33] <fabo> Riddell: any plan for Qt 4.5.1 in jaunty-backports ?
[11:35] <ScottK> fabo: No.
[11:35] <ScottK> Last time we backported Qt (In Hardy) it didn't go well.
[11:35] <fabo> ScottK: no as no plan or no as forget it ? :)
[11:35] <ScottK> No as in no, we don't plan on doing it.
[11:36] <ScottK> If someone were to figure out how to test is sufficiently to convince me it's reasonably safe, I think we could configure it.
[11:36] <ScottK> I doubt anyone is up to the required level of effort.
[11:39] <Riddell> it would require all the phonon stuff to be changed back
[11:41] <ScottK> That too.
[11:41] <fabo> it started as a request from danimo about qt creator backport
[11:42] <fabo> dunno, if it worths the effort
[11:43] <Riddell> fabo:
[11:43] <Riddell> fabo: it's from https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental
[11:43] <Riddell> it's in rather
[11:44] <fabo> I take a look, thks.
[11:48] <JontheEchidna> I did backport my Qt merge from before Riddell did the Phonon stuff
[11:48] <JontheEchidna> I think it'd only be a matter of testing
[11:48] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: is that the one in  ?
[11:48] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: is that the one in  ~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental ?
[11:49] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: yes
[11:50] <Riddell> groovy
[11:51] <JontheEchidna> I also copied it over to the new experimental, so KDE 4.2.85 users will have it too
[11:51] <JontheEchidna> oh, wait, you said kubuntu-ppa/experimental
[11:51]  * JontheEchidna is still sleepy
[13:10] <jarle> I have decided to stop using experimental ppa, after removing the experimental software source, what will I need to downgrade to the stable pacakages of the installed programs?
[13:23] <Mamarok> jarle: ... that might be quite tricky to acheive, do you have a separate /home partition?
[13:23] <Mamarok> jarle: there is no downgrade option so far
[13:24] <Mamarok> jarle: go to #kubuntu for support though
[13:25] <jarle> Mamarok: I do have a seperate /home partition. I enabled experimental ppa only to be able to install latest amarok, however it only crashed on me and launchpad apparently did not want any bug reports for experimental pacakages, so I do not want to run experimental anymore...
[13:26] <Mamarok> jarle: you didn't install something else than Amarok beta then?
[13:27] <Mamarok> jarle: btw, bug reports go to bugs,kde,org for Amarok beta :)
[13:27] <jarle> Mamarok: a lot of other KDE packages was automatically updated to the version found on the ppa rep, when I did "apt-get upgrade"
[13:28] <Mamarok> jarle: then you will have to reinstall I fear, downgrading is too complicated
[13:28] <Mamarok> jarle: when enabling repos outside the current release, you should choose manually what you want to install
[13:29] <Mamarok> jarle: but you can very well keep 4.2.3, it's bugfixing stuff so it doesn't hurt
[13:31] <jarle> Mamarok: after enabling experimental ppa, it's not easy keeping it from updating other packages when you once in a while do a "apt-get upgrade" :(
[13:31] <Mamarok> jarle: yes, it is: choose and install only the packages you want, then disable the PPA
[13:32] <Mamarok> but again, jarle, that does not belong here but in #kubuntu
[13:33] <jarle> Mamarok: thnx, as long as I'm able to revert to the old version of amarok I'll be fine
[13:35] <neversfelde> ScottK: my application for svn access?
[13:50] <Nightrose> Riddell: JontheEchidna: still no luck with amarok 2.1 beta 2? final tagging is only a few days away and I am not going to release final without kubuntu packages - would really be nice to get that sorted out - anyone else I can bug while you are busy?
[13:51] <Nightrose> or anything else I can do to help?
[13:55] <neversfelde> Nightrose: 2:2.0.96mysql5.1.30-0ubuntu1 isn't that beta2?
[13:55] <Nightrose> neversfelde: it is but it crashes on startup
[13:55] <Nightrose> unusable
[13:55] <neversfelde> it is in karmic, but I have not tested it
[13:56] <Nightrose> (at least on jaunty)
[14:05] <seele> will the icecast streams open up soon? there is supposed to be a kde session in 5 minutes
[14:15] <seele> can't hear anything on the icecast
[14:17] <seele> lame
[14:19] <Riddell> seele: sebas is just showing 4.3 to people currently
[14:19] <ScottK> neversfelde: Sorry.  Mixed up my irc nics.
[14:19] <neversfelde> ScottK: ok :)
[14:20] <seele> Riddell: i doubt the audio is going to improve once he starts saying something important
[14:20] <ScottK> He's pretty soft spoken.
[14:23] <seele> are there room irc channels?
[14:23] <Riddell> seele: no, there's #ubuntu-devel-summit and gobby docs for sessions with specs (not this one)
[14:38] <seele> who is talking now? agateau?
[14:50] <Riddell> seele: you can hear?
[14:50] <seele> Riddell: yes, the audio somehow improved
[14:51] <seele> when sebas was giving his presentation it was very muffled and i couldnt understand him
[14:55] <seele> doh.. audio cut out
[14:59] <Riddell> lame :(
[15:08] <seele> what was the final resolution?
[15:12] <seele> anyone else having trouble connecting to the gobby server?
[15:13] <yuriy> most of us here are having trouble connecting to any server most of the time
[15:14] <seele> what is the name of the document?
[15:18] <yuriy> seele: kubuntu-karmic-development
[15:18] <seele> yuriy: thanks
[15:24] <seele> did you guys every find the kpackagekit dude?
[15:25] <seele> * threading issue
[15:25] <seele> * a few areas for ui improvement
[15:29] <ScottK> seele: Can you here.
[15:29] <ScottK> here/hear?
[15:29] <seele> the kpackagekit guys got the report, i dont know how much they will be fixing
[15:30] <seele> and i only reviewed the upgrade dialog not the entire applications
[15:30] <seele> yes
[15:30] <seele> oh ow
[15:31] <Tonio_> hey seele !! we miss you here :'(
[15:31] <seele> Tonio_: i'm sorry i cant be there :(
[15:32] <Tonio_> seele: I know :)
[15:46] <seele> we DO customize it
[15:46] <seele> we've customized our panel and desktop widgets for optimal defaults
[15:47] <kwwii> right
[15:48] <rgreening> yeah
[15:48] <seele> council decision
[15:48] <rgreening> o/
[15:48] <yuriy> but the overall look is regular KDE - we  don't have our own branding like SUSE's green for example
[15:48] <kwwii> but we have had our own wallpapers and such in the past
[15:49] <seele> sure
[15:49] <kwwii> and window deco, style, etc
[15:49] <seele> man.. this is hard.. people not in uds have no idea about my comments heh
[15:55] <seele> yes
[15:56] <rgreening> :)
[15:58] <seele> we *do* create use cases for descision making
[15:58] <seele> argh
[15:59]  * seele waves her hands and yells really loud
[16:11] <maco> seele, are you listening to us jabbering over here?
[16:20] <yuriy> seele: I think the question was have we written up use cases specifically for quassel so we can make this decision
[16:34] <seele> yuriy: ah. my response was "we created use cases to discuss whether or not we should use quassel, and if so, what needs to change"
[17:07] <txwikinger_work> Anything exciting going on at UDS?
[17:19] <Mamarok> txwikinger_work: work, I guess
[17:19] <Mamarok> as usual
[17:20] <Riddell>  UDS dinner 8pm in foyer
[17:20]  * txwikinger_work wants dinner too
[17:23] <Riddell> they eat tea late in this country, I'm hungry already
[17:23] <Riddell> txwikinger_work: setting default browser to Arora was not greeted with universal dislike
[17:23] <Riddell> infact it had quite a lot of like
[17:24] <ryanakca> Riddell: Is there any reason why *not* to put it as default , apart form it not being the KDE default?
[17:24] <freeflying> Riddell: got any place for dinner?
[17:24] <txwikinger_work> Riddell: I have never seen Arora
[17:24] <Riddell> freeflying: yes we are going out with albert from KDE, meet 8pm in the foyer to go into town
[17:24] <txwikinger_work> Does it at least take less resources?
[17:25] <Riddell> ryanakca: kwallet, ad block, some people like their extensions, doesn't fit in with kde proxy settings, stuff like that
[17:25]  * txwikinger_work would like to see some lightweight apps
[17:25] <Riddell> txwikinger_work: yes
[17:25] <ryanakca> Riddell:
[17:25] <txwikinger_work> It is ridiculous.. I am getting a 16GB workstation now at work, because everything is so slow with 1GB
[17:25] <ryanakca> s/$/Ah, I see/g
[17:46] <smarter> Riddell: adblock is currently being developed and will hopefully be merged for the next release
[17:47] <smarter> concerning kwallet, that might be something I should do :]
[17:47]  * smarter adds it somewhere in his todo list
[17:52] <seele> hmm.. is it possible to talk about bluetooth sometime this week too? it seems to still be pretty unreliable
[18:04] <apachelogger> salut!
[18:12] <Mamarok> salut apachelogger !
[18:12] <Mamarok> comment va?
[18:12] <apachelogger> ca va
[18:12] <apachelogger> so, I suppose everyone is at UDS by now?
[18:13]  * jussi01 waves to apachelogger
[18:13]  * apachelogger would consider that a perfect time to break all of gnome
[18:16] <Riddell> seele: maybe in the QA session, but I doubt we have the manpower to do much about it
[18:42] <jussi01> Hrm, anyone seen this kind of thing before? http://jussi01.com/upload/uploads/20090525-204208-snapshot8.png
[18:42] <jussi01> ie. the +/- on the middle bottom...
[18:45] <Riddell> that looks a bit messed
[18:45] <jussi01> yeah, just a little
[18:46] <jussi01> :D
[18:48] <apachelogger> jussi01: are you affected by graphics problem stuff?
[18:49] <jussi01> apachelogger: no. my nvidia works well - I assume you mean the intel issues?
[18:49] <apachelogger> yes
[18:49] <apachelogger> jussi01: well, go over to #amarok and throw the snapshot at someone
[18:53] <Riddell> smarter_: people were wondering if arora was likely to get a general extensions mechanism
[18:53] <smarter_> Riddell: yup
[18:53] <smarter_> icefox worked on it at some point, but I doubt it'd be ready anytime soon
[18:54] <Riddell> ScottK, ryanakca, kwwii, maco, anyone, gather for dinner in 5 downstairs
[18:54] <smarter_> it's kind of a huge task :)
[18:55] <smarter_> Riddell & fellow kubunteros: bon appétit ;)
[19:07] <ryanakca> yuriy: comming for supper?
[19:31]  * apachelogger just fell asleep while watching a pbuild
[20:55] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ping
[21:16] <Quintasan> apachelogger: not imporatant now, I fix'ed the desc error, everything should be right now,
[21:30] <Mamarok> looks like the dependencies on 4.3 for Jaunty are slightly borked...
[21:30] <Mamarok> a user upgraded today, it failed to install kwin and kdebase...