[00:05] Riddell: iirc it has gone from playground -> kdereview -> extragear which means it is nearing a reelase [00:05] oh jebus... I thought I was at the bottom of my quassel backlog, guess not [00:06] * astromme was referring to the googledata akonadi resources === Pici` is now known as Pici [02:45] * Hobbsee grins evilly [08:43] neversfelde: Can you join #debian-qt-kde on IFTC? They want to discuss your application for svn access. === lool- is now known as lool === iivv_ is now known as wharrgarrbl [09:05] It looks like boost1.38 is what we are aiming for for Karmic. It'd be really helpful to get a volunteer to test build Qt/KDE stuff against 1.38 and see if it works. [09:06] ScottK: ask eagles... [09:06] * Mamarok hides [09:07] * ScottK doesn't want it that bad. [09:08] he managed to screw up his installation by compiling KDE from trunk, but actually only part of it because he was too lazy to read *all* the documentation on techbase... [09:09] Well obviously he didn't screw it up badly enough as he got back online. [09:16] question: im trying to include oxygen style inside qtcurve style so that i can render oxygen progress bar inside qtcurve. how do i indicate in cmake file that qtcurve.so depends/links to oxygen.so ? [09:34] vishalrao: we're at a conference, #kde-devel probably know better [10:37] koffice 2.0 uploaded to karmic [10:37] jaunty compiling [11:33] Riddell: any plan for Qt 4.5.1 in jaunty-backports ? [11:35] fabo: No. [11:35] Last time we backported Qt (In Hardy) it didn't go well. [11:35] ScottK: no as no plan or no as forget it ? :) [11:35] No as in no, we don't plan on doing it. [11:36] If someone were to figure out how to test is sufficiently to convince me it's reasonably safe, I think we could configure it. [11:36] I doubt anyone is up to the required level of effort. [11:39] it would require all the phonon stuff to be changed back [11:41] That too. [11:41] it started as a request from danimo about qt creator backport [11:42] dunno, if it worths the effort [11:43] fabo: [11:43] fabo: it's from https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental [11:43] it's in rather [11:44] I take a look, thks. [11:48] I did backport my Qt merge from before Riddell did the Phonon stuff [11:48] I think it'd only be a matter of testing [11:48] JontheEchidna: is that the one in ? [11:48] JontheEchidna: is that the one in ~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental ? [11:49] Riddell: yes [11:50] groovy [11:51] I also copied it over to the new experimental, so KDE 4.2.85 users will have it too [11:51] oh, wait, you said kubuntu-ppa/experimental [11:51] * JontheEchidna is still sleepy [13:10] I have decided to stop using experimental ppa, after removing the experimental software source, what will I need to downgrade to the stable pacakages of the installed programs? [13:23] jarle: ... that might be quite tricky to acheive, do you have a separate /home partition? [13:23] jarle: there is no downgrade option so far [13:24] jarle: go to #kubuntu for support though [13:25] Mamarok: I do have a seperate /home partition. I enabled experimental ppa only to be able to install latest amarok, however it only crashed on me and launchpad apparently did not want any bug reports for experimental pacakages, so I do not want to run experimental anymore... [13:26] jarle: you didn't install something else than Amarok beta then? [13:27] jarle: btw, bug reports go to bugs,kde,org for Amarok beta :) [13:27] Mamarok: a lot of other KDE packages was automatically updated to the version found on the ppa rep, when I did "apt-get upgrade" [13:28] jarle: then you will have to reinstall I fear, downgrading is too complicated [13:28] jarle: when enabling repos outside the current release, you should choose manually what you want to install [13:29] jarle: but you can very well keep 4.2.3, it's bugfixing stuff so it doesn't hurt [13:31] Mamarok: after enabling experimental ppa, it's not easy keeping it from updating other packages when you once in a while do a "apt-get upgrade" :( [13:31] jarle: yes, it is: choose and install only the packages you want, then disable the PPA [13:32] but again, jarle, that does not belong here but in #kubuntu [13:33] Mamarok: thnx, as long as I'm able to revert to the old version of amarok I'll be fine [13:35] ScottK: my application for svn access? [13:50] Riddell: JontheEchidna: still no luck with amarok 2.1 beta 2? final tagging is only a few days away and I am not going to release final without kubuntu packages - would really be nice to get that sorted out - anyone else I can bug while you are busy? [13:51] or anything else I can do to help? [13:55] Nightrose: 2:2.0.96mysql5.1.30-0ubuntu1 isn't that beta2? [13:55] neversfelde: it is but it crashes on startup [13:55] unusable [13:55] it is in karmic, but I have not tested it [13:56] (at least on jaunty) [14:05] will the icecast streams open up soon? there is supposed to be a kde session in 5 minutes [14:15] can't hear anything on the icecast [14:17] lame [14:19] seele: sebas is just showing 4.3 to people currently [14:19] neversfelde: Sorry. Mixed up my irc nics. [14:19] ScottK: ok :) [14:20] Riddell: i doubt the audio is going to improve once he starts saying something important [14:20] He's pretty soft spoken. [14:23] are there room irc channels? [14:23] seele: no, there's #ubuntu-devel-summit and gobby docs for sessions with specs (not this one) [14:38] who is talking now? agateau? [14:50] seele: you can hear? [14:50] Riddell: yes, the audio somehow improved [14:51] when sebas was giving his presentation it was very muffled and i couldnt understand him === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [14:55] doh.. audio cut out [14:59] lame :( [15:08] what was the final resolution? [15:12] anyone else having trouble connecting to the gobby server? [15:13] most of us here are having trouble connecting to any server most of the time [15:14] what is the name of the document? [15:18] seele: kubuntu-karmic-development [15:18] yuriy: thanks [15:24] did you guys every find the kpackagekit dude? [15:25] * threading issue [15:25] * a few areas for ui improvement [15:29] seele: Can you here. [15:29] here/hear? [15:29] the kpackagekit guys got the report, i dont know how much they will be fixing [15:30] and i only reviewed the upgrade dialog not the entire applications [15:30] yes [15:30] oh ow [15:31] hey seele !! we miss you here :'( [15:31] Tonio_: i'm sorry i cant be there :( [15:32] seele: I know :) [15:46] we DO customize it [15:46] we've customized our panel and desktop widgets for optimal defaults [15:47] right [15:48] yeah [15:48] council decision [15:48] o/ [15:48] but the overall look is regular KDE - we don't have our own branding like SUSE's green for example [15:48] but we have had our own wallpapers and such in the past [15:49] sure [15:49] and window deco, style, etc [15:49] man.. this is hard.. people not in uds have no idea about my comments heh [15:55] yes [15:56] :) [15:58] we *do* create use cases for descision making [15:58] argh [15:59] * seele waves her hands and yells really loud [16:11] seele, are you listening to us jabbering over here? [16:20] seele: I think the question was have we written up use cases specifically for quassel so we can make this decision [16:34] yuriy: ah. my response was "we created use cases to discuss whether or not we should use quassel, and if so, what needs to change" [17:07] Anything exciting going on at UDS? [17:19] txwikinger_work: work, I guess [17:19] as usual === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: UDS dinner 8pm in foyer | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicSpecs | Sync/Merges: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/multidistrotools/kubuntu-desktop.html | Be careful whilst packaging | Transitions: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/rgreening/KarmicPhononPackages and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ScottKitterman/Libplasma-Dev [17:20] UDS dinner 8pm in foyer [17:20] * txwikinger_work wants dinner too [17:23] they eat tea late in this country, I'm hungry already [17:23] txwikinger_work: setting default browser to Arora was not greeted with universal dislike [17:23] infact it had quite a lot of like [17:24] Riddell: Is there any reason why *not* to put it as default , apart form it not being the KDE default? [17:24] Riddell: got any place for dinner? [17:24] Riddell: I have never seen Arora [17:24] freeflying: yes we are going out with albert from KDE, meet 8pm in the foyer to go into town [17:24] Does it at least take less resources? [17:25] ryanakca: kwallet, ad block, some people like their extensions, doesn't fit in with kde proxy settings, stuff like that [17:25] * txwikinger_work would like to see some lightweight apps [17:25] txwikinger_work: yes [17:25] Riddell: [17:25] It is ridiculous.. I am getting a 16GB workstation now at work, because everything is so slow with 1GB [17:25] s/$/Ah, I see/g [17:46] Riddell: adblock is currently being developed and will hopefully be merged for the next release [17:47] concerning kwallet, that might be something I should do :] [17:47] * smarter adds it somewhere in his todo list [17:52] hmm.. is it possible to talk about bluetooth sometime this week too? it seems to still be pretty unreliable [18:04] salut! [18:12] salut apachelogger ! [18:12] comment va? [18:12] ca va [18:12] so, I suppose everyone is at UDS by now? [18:13] * jussi01 waves to apachelogger [18:13] * apachelogger would consider that a perfect time to break all of gnome [18:16] seele: maybe in the QA session, but I doubt we have the manpower to do much about it [18:42] Hrm, anyone seen this kind of thing before? http://jussi01.com/upload/uploads/20090525-204208-snapshot8.png [18:42] ie. the +/- on the middle bottom... === blizzzek is now known as blizzz [18:45] that looks a bit messed [18:45] yeah, just a little [18:46] :D [18:48] jussi01: are you affected by graphics problem stuff? [18:49] apachelogger: no. my nvidia works well - I assume you mean the intel issues? [18:49] yes [18:49] jussi01: well, go over to #amarok and throw the snapshot at someone [18:53] smarter_: people were wondering if arora was likely to get a general extensions mechanism [18:53] Riddell: yup [18:53] icefox worked on it at some point, but I doubt it'd be ready anytime soon [18:54] ScottK, ryanakca, kwwii, maco, anyone, gather for dinner in 5 downstairs [18:54] it's kind of a huge task :) [18:55] Riddell & fellow kubunteros: bon appétit ;) [19:07] yuriy: comming for supper? [19:31] * apachelogger just fell asleep while watching a pbuild === nielsslot_ is now known as nielsslot === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve === olujicz_ is now known as olujicz [20:55] apachelogger: ping === siekacz is now known as Ssiebabci === Ssiebabci is now known as siekacz [21:16] apachelogger: not imporatant now, I fix'ed the desc error, everything should be right now, [21:30] looks like the dependencies on 4.3 for Jaunty are slightly borked... [21:30] a user upgraded today, it failed to install kwin and kdebase... === yuriy_ is now known as yuriy