[00:39] <BUGabundo> ti manhana
[10:24] <sjokkis> hi. anyone know when plymouth will be added to karmic?
[11:25] <mrwes> how do I report a bug on the suspend function?
[11:39] <sjokkis> mrwes: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/reportproblem
[11:44] <mrwes> Ok....what package is the suspend function part of? Apport?
[11:44] <mrwes> acpi?
[11:44] <sjokkis> apport is the program that reports bugs. suspending is acpi
[11:46] <sjokkis> at least on a low level. are you using the hibernate package to suspend, or gnome/kde?
[11:46] <mrwes> gnome
[11:46] <mrwes> worked in Jaunty, but fails now in the Karmic Alpha
[11:47] <sjokkis> difficult for me to tell if it's a problem with acpi or with gnome
[11:47] <mrwes> I don't know how to capture the correct information onthat to file the bug
[11:47] <sjokkis> you'd have to talk with someone more in the know
[11:47] <mrwes> k
[11:47] <mrwes> thanks
[11:50] <sjokkis> mrwes: if this channel isn't the right one (i don't know if it is), perhaps one of these is http://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels
[11:56] <yofel> hm, already gone...
[11:56] <yofel> asking in #ubuntu-bugs might have been a good idea
[15:11] <thiebaude> hi BUGabundo
[15:12] <BUGabundo> ola thiebaude
[15:12] <thiebaude> i didn't know you worked on the wiki
[15:12] <BUGabundo> who me?
[15:12] <thiebaude> haha
[15:12] <BUGabundo> I don't
[15:13] <thiebaude> oh, the uds one
[15:13] <BUGabundo> ah ? what are you talking about?
[15:13] <BUGabundo> the small fix?
[15:13] <thiebaude> yea
[15:13] <thiebaude> that one
[15:13] <BUGabundo> I don't like to see non-producion servers published
[15:13] <thiebaude> cool
[15:15] <BUGabundo1> I do it all the time
[15:15] <BUGabundo1> even reply to ppl emails not to do it
[15:16] <thiebaude> i just thought that was cool to see that on there last night
[15:17] <BUGabundo1> you check all wifi updates???
[15:18] <thiebaude> no, just one page where the ppl that are going to UDS
[15:18] <BUGabundo> oh right
[15:19] <BUGabundo> so yay for geek points for me
[16:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[17:00] <BUGabundo> hey BluesKaj
[17:02] <BluesKaj> hi BUGabundo , how's your sound setup doing ..got things working ok ?
[17:02] <BUGabundo> on another PC
[17:02] <BUGabundo> LOL
[17:02] <BUGabundo> wanted to listen to streams
[17:02] <BUGabundo> didn't want to risk it
[17:03] <BUGabundo> but OSS is working
[17:03] <BUGabundo> haven't tried PA after nuking it yet
[17:03] <BluesKaj> intel audio has become problematic in the last few (k)ubuntus
[18:32] <mrwes> updates today aye?
[18:33] <BUGabundo> lots
[18:33] <BUGabundo> OOo and kernel too
[18:34] <mrwes> didn't get the OOo
[18:34] <mrwes> kernel yes
[18:34] <BUGabundo> eheheh
[18:34] <BUGabundo> I did
[18:34] <mrwes> fuqer :)
[18:35] <mrwes> you using the main server?
[18:35] <mrwes> I'm using the US server
[18:36] <BUGabundo> yep
[18:37] <mrwes> The following packages have been kept back:
[18:37] <mrwes>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[18:37] <mrwes> shrug
[18:38] <mrwes> you have pre-released enabled?
[18:39] <BUGabundo> there is no such pocket for KK
[18:39] <mrwes> wonder why the updates were held back
[18:40] <mrwes> ok...now the kernel is there
[18:41] <BUGabundo> yeo
[18:41] <BUGabundo> why is it help ? do you know?
[18:41] <BUGabundo> didn't have the time to check
[18:43] <mrwes> gonna reboot
[18:43] <BUGabundo> gonna never return!
[18:43] <BUGabundo> poor fellow... we are gonna miss you
[22:04] <BUGabundo> $ lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[22:04] <BUGabundo> knotify4  22714  bugabundo   23w      CHR               14,3       0t0       6648 /dev/dsp
[22:04] <BUGabundo> damn knotify
[22:23] <mrwes> hrmm...Karmic is running some weird crons
[22:23] <mrwes> May 25 17:17:01 bill-laptop CRON[9027]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root
[22:23] <mrwes> May 25 17:20:01 bill-laptop CRON[9105]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[22:23] <mrwes> May 25 17:20:01 bill-laptop CRON[9105]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root
[22:24] <mrwes> 3 to 10 minutes apart
[22:25] <mrwes> anyone?
[22:26] <BUGabundo> humm
[22:26] <mrwes> shit load of entries too
[22:26] <mrwes> weird
[22:26] <jussi01> !language | mrwes
[22:26] <mrwes> sigh...
[22:26] <mrwes> nod
[22:27] <mrwes> http://pastebin.com/f49fc06c
[22:28] <andersk> Check /etc/crontab and /var/spool/cron?
[22:28] <mrwes_> lemme look
[22:28] <tormod> mrwes: isn't this the /etc/motd being updated every 10min?
[22:28] <mrwes_> OHHHHHHH
[22:28] <mrwes_> duh
[22:28] <mrwes_> heh
[22:28]  * mrwes_ is lame
[22:29] <tormod> well I think updating motd every 10min is lame :)
[22:29] <mrwes_> where does that run from? /etc/cron.d/motd?
[22:29] <tormod> /etc/cron.d/update-motd
[22:31] <mrwes> k...thanks
[22:31] <tormod> at least it uses cron instead of adding yet another useless daemon
[22:31] <mrwes> true
[22:33] <mrwes> thank you
[22:44] <Twigathy> oh so *thats* the magic that gives me disk space warnings every time I login ... >_<
[22:47] <tormod> yes and for most of us (not logging in on a text console more often than every ten minutes) it would have made more sense to run this at demand
[22:47] <Twigathy> depends how long it takes to generate it
[22:48] <Twigathy> I don't imagine it takes very long, but an extra half-second on my ssh login would be annoying; a process running once every 10 minutes for a short period isn't going to bother me
[22:50] <tormod> true, but if you're on battery for instance, it's another thing waking up the disk again
[22:50] <Twigathy> Have you looked at 'powertop'?
[22:50] <Twigathy> Interesting tool if you're a laptop user
[22:51] <tormod> thanks, I have heard abou it but not yet tried it
[22:52] <tormod> btw my ssh logins always take several seconds, there's a reason for it but I forgot :)
[22:57] <BUGabundo> need a test please
[22:57] <BUGabundo> make a sym link to /var/log/dmesg
[22:57] <BUGabundo> and then nano/gedit/whatever the link
[22:57] <tormod> tried powertop now: rul3z! and the big surprise (not): firefox wakes up the kernel all the time
[22:58] <BUGabundo> does it show the actual log or just a part?
[22:58] <BUGabundo> its showing me 28secs alone
[22:59] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: hggdh: can you test?
[23:00] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: works fine in JJ, I'm launching KK
[23:00] <BUGabundo> thanks
[23:00] <BUGabundo> it fails here
[23:00] <BUGabundo> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/112892/dmesg.log
[23:01] <kklimonda> looks fine
[23:02] <BUGabundo> mine or yours?
[23:02] <kklimonda> mine
[23:02] <BUGabundo> can you link to .0 ?
[23:02] <BUGabundo> and see if works?
[23:02] <BUGabundo> your log maybe to fresh
[23:03] <kklimonda> the last line in your log isn't truncaced?
[23:03] <kklimonda> no, it works fine - I don't even know why would it truncate file this way..
[23:04] <BUGabundo> eyah
[23:04] <BUGabundo> how can I restart the logger?
[23:04] <kklimonda>  /etc/init.d/sysklogd restart
[23:06] <BUGabundo> ahh sysk
[23:06] <BUGabundo> humm my original dmesg is truncated
[23:06] <BUGabundo> wtf
[23:07] <hggdh> BUGabundo, you would like me to gedit /var/log/dmesg?
[23:07] <BUGabundo> no need
[23:07] <BUGabundo> its on my side
[23:07] <BUGabundo> dmesg stopped at 28 secs
[23:08] <BUGabundo> checking older logs to see what's up
[23:08] <BUGabundo> damn dmesg.0 is too
[23:08] <BUGabundo> why are they stoping at 28sec?
[23:08] <BUGabundo> GDM ?
[23:09] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: they only log boot process
[23:09] <BUGabundo> ahhh
[23:10] <kklimonda> you can get everything from kern.log
[23:10] <BUGabundo> or messages
[23:10] <kklimonda> ya
[23:13] <hggdh> BUGabundo, I can gedit /var/log/dmesg, and get a window, in about 1 secind
[23:13] <BUGabundo> hggdh: no need
[23:13]  * hggdh is, as it is getting to be usual, late
[23:14] <kklimonda> :)
[23:14] <BUGabundo> eheh
[23:14] <BUGabundo> hggdh: not always
[23:15] <hggdh> BUGabundo, not always indeed, just lately...
[23:15] <kklimonda> great, looks like my ccache got corrupted :/
[23:15] <rski> anyone who updated to the latest X with ati?
[23:16] <BUGabundo> rski: nvidia here
[23:17] <hggdh> ATI here, with radeon (not, absolutely *not* fglrx)
[23:17] <hggdh> (and radeonhd also barfs)
[23:17] <rski> let me correct with the radeon driver
[23:18] <tormod> latest X from git? yes
[23:18] <rski> no...
[23:18] <rski> the latest update in karmic to the latest X server (not from git)
[23:18] <rski> taking a while to get my message out
[23:20] <hggdh> open-ended, many different options possible. But yes, I have it, and will test in a few (as soon as my Evolution build ends I will restart X)
[23:20] <rski> well
[23:21] <rski> just looks like stubborness
[23:21] <tormod> rski: try getting to the point ? :)
[23:22] <rski> :)
 rski, I *did* install the latest updates, but have not yet restarted X. So... if you can wait some 10 minutes, I will do it.
[23:22] <rski> yeah no problem
[23:23] <rski> cause i can't afford to loose x right now
[23:23] <rski> but i also need the new version
[23:23] <tormod> rski: so you haven't tried yourself ?!
[23:23] <rski> nope
[23:23] <hggdh> heh
[23:24] <tormod> you can just reinstall the previous version if it breaks
[23:24] <BUGabundo> rski: free tip: man nohup
[23:25] <tormod> free as in bad beer
[23:25] <rski> arun a command immune to hangups
[23:25] <rski> rofl
[23:25] <rski> *run
[23:25] <rski> also the cake is not a lie.
[23:26] <mrwes> BUGabundo, lost sound again....sigh
[23:26] <BUGabundo> thinks so
[23:26] <BUGabundo> I bet its jammed again
[23:26] <mrwes> wtf...
[23:26] <BUGabundo> let me kill it (agayn)
[23:27] <BUGabundo> someone ping me again
[23:27] <mrwes> exit
[23:27] <hggdh> BUGabundo, ping
[23:28] <BUGabundo> nada :(
[23:52] <hggdh> new X still works with ATI radeon
[23:56] <rski> \o/