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BUGabundoti manhana00:39
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sjokkishi. anyone know when plymouth will be added to karmic?10:24
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mrweshow do I report a bug on the suspend function?11:25
sjokkismrwes: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/reportproblem11:39
mrwesOk....what package is the suspend function part of? Apport?11:44
mrwesacpi?11:44
sjokkisapport is the program that reports bugs. suspending is acpi11:44
sjokkisat least on a low level. are you using the hibernate package to suspend, or gnome/kde?11:46
mrwesgnome11:46
mrwesworked in Jaunty, but fails now in the Karmic Alpha11:46
sjokkisdifficult for me to tell if it's a problem with acpi or with gnome11:47
mrwesI don't know how to capture the correct information onthat to file the bug11:47
sjokkisyou'd have to talk with someone more in the know11:47
mrwesk11:47
mrwesthanks11:47
sjokkismrwes: if this channel isn't the right one (i don't know if it is), perhaps one of these is http://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels11:50
yofelhm, already gone...11:56
yofelasking in #ubuntu-bugs might have been a good idea11:56
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thiebaudehi BUGabundo15:11
BUGabundoola thiebaude15:12
thiebaudei didn't know you worked on the wiki15:12
BUGabundowho me?15:12
thiebaudehaha15:12
BUGabundoI don't15:12
thiebaudeoh, the uds one15:13
BUGabundoah ? what are you talking about?15:13
BUGabundothe small fix?15:13
thiebaudeyea15:13
thiebaudethat one15:13
BUGabundoI don't like to see non-producion servers published15:13
thiebaudecool15:13
BUGabundo1I do it all the time15:15
BUGabundo1even reply to ppl emails not to do it15:15
thiebaudei just thought that was cool to see that on there last night15:16
BUGabundo1you check all wifi updates???15:17
thiebaudeno, just one page where the ppl that are going to UDS15:18
BUGabundooh right15:18
BUGabundoso yay for geek points for me15:19
BluesKajHowdy folks16:59
BUGabundohey BluesKaj17:00
BluesKajhi BUGabundo , how's your sound setup doing ..got things working ok ?17:02
BUGabundoon another PC17:02
BUGabundoLOL17:02
BUGabundowanted to listen to streams17:02
BUGabundodidn't want to risk it17:02
BUGabundobut OSS is working17:03
BUGabundohaven't tried PA after nuking it yet17:03
BluesKajintel audio has become problematic in the last few (k)ubuntus17:03
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mrwesupdates today aye?18:32
BUGabundolots18:33
BUGabundoOOo and kernel too18:33
mrwesdidn't get the OOo18:34
mrweskernel yes18:34
BUGabundoeheheh18:34
BUGabundoI did18:34
mrwesfuqer :)18:34
mrwesyou using the main server?18:35
mrwesI'm using the US server18:35
BUGabundoyep18:36
mrwesThe following packages have been kept back:18:37
mrwes  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic18:37
mrwesshrug18:37
mrwesyou have pre-released enabled?18:38
BUGabundothere is no such pocket for KK18:39
mrweswonder why the updates were held back18:39
mrwesok...now the kernel is there18:40
BUGabundoyeo18:41
BUGabundowhy is it help ? do you know?18:41
BUGabundodidn't have the time to check18:41
mrwesgonna reboot18:43
BUGabundogonna never return!18:43
BUGabundopoor fellow... we are gonna miss you18:43
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BUGabundo$ lsof | grep /dev/dsp22:04
BUGabundoknotify4  22714  bugabundo   23w      CHR               14,3       0t0       6648 /dev/dsp22:04
BUGabundodamn knotify22:04
mrweshrmm...Karmic is running some weird crons22:23
mrwesMay 25 17:17:01 bill-laptop CRON[9027]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root22:23
mrwesMay 25 17:20:01 bill-laptop CRON[9105]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)22:23
mrwesMay 25 17:20:01 bill-laptop CRON[9105]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root22:23
mrwes3 to 10 minutes apart22:24
mrwesanyone?22:25
BUGabundohumm22:26
mrwesshit load of entries too22:26
mrwesweird22:26
jussi01!language | mrwes22:26
ubottumrwes: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.22:26
mrwessigh...22:26
mrwesnod22:26
mrweshttp://pastebin.com/f49fc06c22:27
anderskCheck /etc/crontab and /var/spool/cron?22:28
mrwes_lemme look22:28
tormodmrwes: isn't this the /etc/motd being updated every 10min?22:28
mrwes_OHHHHHHH22:28
mrwes_duh22:28
mrwes_heh22:28
* mrwes_ is lame22:28
tormodwell I think updating motd every 10min is lame :)22:29
mrwes_where does that run from? /etc/cron.d/motd?22:29
tormod/etc/cron.d/update-motd22:29
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mrwesk...thanks22:31
tormodat least it uses cron instead of adding yet another useless daemon22:31
mrwestrue22:31
mrwesthank you22:33
Twigathyoh so *thats* the magic that gives me disk space warnings every time I login ... >_<22:44
tormodyes and for most of us (not logging in on a text console more often than every ten minutes) it would have made more sense to run this at demand22:47
Twigathydepends how long it takes to generate it22:47
TwigathyI don't imagine it takes very long, but an extra half-second on my ssh login would be annoying; a process running once every 10 minutes for a short period isn't going to bother me22:48
tormodtrue, but if you're on battery for instance, it's another thing waking up the disk again22:50
TwigathyHave you looked at 'powertop'?22:50
TwigathyInteresting tool if you're a laptop user22:50
tormodthanks, I have heard abou it but not yet tried it22:51
tormodbtw my ssh logins always take several seconds, there's a reason for it but I forgot :)22:52
BUGabundoneed a test please22:57
BUGabundomake a sym link to /var/log/dmesg22:57
BUGabundoand then nano/gedit/whatever the link22:57
tormodtried powertop now: rul3z! and the big surprise (not): firefox wakes up the kernel all the time22:57
BUGabundodoes it show the actual log or just a part?22:58
BUGabundoits showing me 28secs alone22:58
BUGabundokklimonda: hggdh: can you test?22:59
kklimondaBUGabundo: works fine in JJ, I'm launching KK23:00
BUGabundothanks23:00
BUGabundoit fails here23:00
BUGabundohttp://dl.getdropbox.com/u/112892/dmesg.log23:00
kklimondalooks fine23:01
BUGabundomine or yours?23:02
kklimondamine23:02
BUGabundocan you link to .0 ?23:02
BUGabundoand see if works?23:02
BUGabundoyour log maybe to fresh23:02
kklimondathe last line in your log isn't truncaced?23:03
kklimondano, it works fine - I don't even know why would it truncate file this way..23:03
BUGabundoeyah23:04
BUGabundohow can I restart the logger?23:04
kklimonda /etc/init.d/sysklogd restart23:04
BUGabundoahh sysk23:06
BUGabundohumm my original dmesg is truncated23:06
BUGabundowtf23:06
hggdhBUGabundo, you would like me to gedit /var/log/dmesg?23:07
BUGabundono need23:07
BUGabundoits on my side23:07
BUGabundodmesg stopped at 28 secs23:07
BUGabundochecking older logs to see what's up23:08
BUGabundodamn dmesg.0 is too23:08
BUGabundowhy are they stoping at 28sec?23:08
BUGabundoGDM ?23:08
kklimondaBUGabundo: they only log boot process23:09
BUGabundoahhh23:09
kklimondayou can get everything from kern.log23:10
BUGabundoor messages23:10
kklimondaya23:10
hggdhBUGabundo, I can gedit /var/log/dmesg, and get a window, in about 1 secind23:13
BUGabundohggdh: no need23:13
* hggdh is, as it is getting to be usual, late23:13
kklimonda:)23:14
BUGabundoeheh23:14
BUGabundohggdh: not always23:14
hggdhBUGabundo, not always indeed, just lately...23:15
kklimondagreat, looks like my ccache got corrupted :/23:15
rskianyone who updated to the latest X with ati?23:15
BUGabundorski: nvidia here23:16
hggdhATI here, with radeon (not, absolutely *not* fglrx)23:17
hggdh(and radeonhd also barfs)23:17
rskilet me correct with the radeon driver23:17
tormodlatest X from git? yes23:18
rskino...23:18
rskithe latest update in karmic to the latest X server (not from git)23:18
rskitaking a while to get my message out23:18
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hggdhopen-ended, many different options possible. But yes, I have it, and will test in a few (as soon as my Evolution build ends I will restart X)23:20
rskiwell23:20
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rskijust looks like stubborness23:21
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tormodrski: try getting to the point ? :)23:21
rski:)23:22
hggdh<sigh/> rski, I *did* install the latest updates, but have not yet restarted X. So... if you can wait some 10 minutes, I will do it.23:22
rskiyeah no problem23:22
rskicause i can't afford to loose x right now23:23
rskibut i also need the new version23:23
tormodrski: so you haven't tried yourself ?!23:23
rskinope23:23
hggdhheh23:23
tormodyou can just reinstall the previous version if it breaks23:24
BUGabundorski: free tip: man nohup23:24
tormodfree as in bad beer23:25
rskiarun a command immune to hangups23:25
rskirofl23:25
rski*run23:25
rskialso the cake is not a lie.23:25
mrwesBUGabundo, lost sound again....sigh23:26
BUGabundothinks so23:26
BUGabundoI bet its jammed again23:26
mrweswtf...23:26
BUGabundolet me kill it (agayn)23:26
BUGabundosomeone ping me again23:27
mrwesexit23:27
hggdhBUGabundo, ping23:27
BUGabundonada :(23:28
hggdhnew X still works with ATI radeon23:52
rski\o/23:56

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