[00:39] <BUGabundo> ti manhana
[03:30] <bcurtiswx-mini> who here knows how to have a user test a new version of software thats only available in karmic when they use jaunty?
[03:30] <bcurtiswx-mini> OOo.org for this case
[03:30] <bcurtiswx-mini> OOo *
[07:48] <thekorn> good morning
[07:48] <micahg> good morning
[07:51] <KhaaL> morning
[07:52] <YoBoY> yop :)
[11:28] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone help me fix my screen resolution... I am not able to get the right screen resolution for my monitor...
[11:32] <persia> PerryArmstrong, #ubuntu is probably a better forum
[11:32] <PerryArmstrong> persia; had been trying there since 3 months...many tried to help but couldn't get solved
[11:33] <persia> PerryArmstrong, Hrm.  Dunno then.  Have you filed a bug?
[11:34] <PerryArmstrong> yup
[13:06] <bencrisford1> Does anyone have a minute to review my bug control application?
[13:06] <bencrisford1> its just I sent it a few weeks back now
[13:06] <bencrisford1> and im just looking for one more opinion
[14:13] <BUGabundo> guud after noon
[14:13] <BUGabundo> this looks like a gosht #. noone said anything all morning!
[14:15]  * Ampelbein rattles with chains
[14:16] <YoBoY> BUGabundo: it's because they are all at the uds :D
[14:16] <YoBoY> olá BUGabundo :)
[14:16] <BUGabundo> its seems so
[14:17] <BUGabundo> even so there are more nicks on this #
[14:17] <BUGabundo> ate ja. going to the offce. latter
[14:17] <YoBoY> yes, idle is a long time game here :) it's only new players
[14:18] <YoBoY> t+
[14:19] <kklimonda> hey BUGabundo :)
[14:21] <YoBoY> ouaaa i haven't seen that, the UDS people have a new cloak on the hostname :D so cool ^^
[14:29] <BUGabundo> hey kklimonda
[15:26] <bcurtiswx> hey, yeah.. this week is UDS... <---jealous
[15:27] <BUGabundo> lol
[15:28] <micahg> hi BUGabundo
[15:28] <bcurtiswx> There's one thing i've noticed on other bug trackers is that as soon as someone can not reproduce the issue its closed for that reason
[15:29] <bcurtiswx> is it just me or is that a true BS reason
[15:29] <micahg> well, we all have different hardware and software combos
[15:29] <micahg> other bug trackers have a more narrow focus
[15:29] <micahg> Ubuntu has a larger focus
[15:30] <bcurtiswx> i just want to yell at them, its annoying when we push things upstream and they just close it immediately
[15:31] <micahg> well, we need to make sure upstream has enough info
[15:31] <micahg> so if that means test cases and such, we should provide them
[15:31] <micahg> either from us or from the user
[20:16] <askand> micahg: BUGabundo hi! yesterday I was told to run "sudo force_start=1 /etc/init.d/apport restart" to make apport send in reports after firefox crash, but it says the report is damaged
[20:16] <micahg> ah, ok
[20:16] <BUGabundo> eheh
[20:16] <BUGabundo> strange
[20:17] <micahg> are you running firefox from the repos askand?
[20:17] <askand> micahg: yes
[20:17] <micahg> which version?
[20:20] <askand> 3.0.10
[20:20] <micahg> can you try one more time?
[20:20] <askand> micahg: sure, do I have to run sudo force_start=1 /etc/init.d/apport restart again?
[20:21] <micahg> yes, BTW, did you close firefox before doing that?
[20:21] <BUGabundo> askand: better change the Default
[20:22] <micahg> BUGabundo: then he'll get apport showing up all the time
[20:22] <BUGabundo> yup
[20:22] <BUGabundo> double win
[20:22] <BUGabundo> he can handled it
[20:22] <BUGabundo> he is no ordinary user
[20:26] <xteejx> !find check
[20:26] <ubot4> xteejx: Found: check, checksecurity, hunspell-de-at, hunspell-de-ch, hunspell-de-de (and 90 others)
[20:26] <xteejx> !info check jaunty
[20:26] <ubot4> xteejx: check (source: check): unit test framework for C. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.5-4 (jaunty), package size 98 kB, installed size 376 kB
[20:26] <xteejx> !info check karmic
[20:26] <ubot4> xteejx: karmic is not a valid distribution ['hardy', 'intrepid', 'jaunty']
[20:27] <xteejx> not meaning to flood guys, ubotu wasn't doing it with the /msg command strangely
[20:27] <BUGabundo> LOL
[20:27] <BUGabundo> someone forgot to update that
[20:32] <YoBoY> too soon perhaps
[20:35] <askand> BUGabundo: I would actually love to have it enabled by default since I have LOTS of segfaulting since installing Jaunty in more than 7 different programs
[20:35] <BUGabundo> let me look up how to
[20:35] <BUGabundo>  !apport
[20:35] <ubot4> Factoid 'apport' not found
[20:35] <BUGabundo> seb128 told me last week
[20:36] <BUGabundo>  /etc/default/apport
[20:36] <askand>  cat /etc/default/appor
[20:36] <askand> yea :)
[20:36] <BUGabundo> woot faster
[20:36]  * BUGabundo keeps the record as a bot
[20:36] <micahg> askand: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#How%20to%20enable%20apport
[20:38] <BUGabundo> micahg: ohhh too late now heeh
[20:38] <BUGabundo> micahg: but you could make a factoid
[20:38] <micahg> You didn't tell askand what to do with the file :)
[20:40] <micahg> BUGabundo: how do I make a factiod?
[20:40] <micahg> !factoid
[20:40] <ubot4> Hi! I'm #ubuntu-bugs's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[20:40] <BUGabundo> micahg: FACT is desc
[20:40] <BUGabundo> micahg: !FACT is desc
[20:40] <micahg> ah
[20:41] <micahg> can facts be 2 words?
[20:41] <BUGabundo> dunno
[20:41] <micahg> !https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport is apport
[20:41] <ubot4> micahg: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[20:41] <BUGabundo> no no
[20:41] <micahg> oops
[20:41] <micahg> did that backwards :)
[20:41] <BUGabundo> the  other way around and be more descrive
[20:41] <micahg> !apport is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[20:42] <BUGabundo> other wise OPs won't accept it
[20:42] <BUGabundo> micahg: try: !FACT learn desc
[20:42] <micahg> ok
[20:42] <micahg> BUGabundo: that worked, ubot4 conttacted me about the request being fwded
[20:42] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[20:43] <BUGabundo> there goes kk
[20:43] <BUGabundo> and now he is back
[20:43] <BUGabundo> hey kklimonda
[20:43] <micahg> Well, I've got the old mozilla-thunderbird package almost down to 100 open bugs
[20:43] <BUGabundo> eheeh
[20:43] <BUGabundo> I have more bugs then that
[20:43] <BUGabundo> lol
[20:44] <kklimonda> hmm.. I wonder what happened :)
[21:13] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dutch/+bug/307667
[21:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 307667 in dutch "Spelling checker does nothing because nl_BE spelling is missing or isn't configured by default" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[21:14] <dupondje> somebody wants to fix it ?
[21:14] <dupondje> I gave the fix for it (last comment)
[21:14] <dupondje> its like to easy :)
[22:19] <bcurtiswx> so if i need to tell someone to test their bug (which I can not reproduce) using karmic packages but on a jaunty system.. how would I tell them to go about this?
[22:19] <BUGabundo> you don't
[22:20] <BUGabundo> that's a bad advice
[22:20] <bcurtiswx> best approach then?
[22:20] <BUGabundo> better put the packages on a PPA, ask them to test a karmic livecd/usb
[22:20] <BUGabundo> direct link to the karmic packages (if no depencies needed)
[22:23] <bcurtiswx> at this point there is no Live-CD for karmic
[22:26] <BUGabundo> sure there is
[22:26] <BUGabundo> or tehre was
[22:26] <bcurtiswx> well the daily lives
[22:26] <BUGabundo>  !daily
[22:26] <ubot4> Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[22:26] <BUGabundo> there it is