[00:00] <owen1> Aqa: true
[00:00] <th0r> owen1: just checked synaptic...it sure requires a lot of support including openbox
[00:01] <owen1> ok
[00:01] <Aqa> th0r, u ar ealways here
[00:01] <Aqa> u are always here*
[00:01] <Aqa> th0r, where to report xubuntu bugs?
[00:01] <th0r> Aqa: no...will be putting the computer away later tonight and won't be online for weeks.
[00:01] <Aqa> th0r, why
[00:01] <th0r> Aqa: I would expect xubuntu.com, but not sure.
[00:02] <th0r> Aqa: I am on a sailboat...heading to the Chesapeake for the summer
[00:20] <jimisrvrox> hey guys Ive got this Broadcom 4813 that I am trying to get to work. I do not know where I am going wrong and I would appreciate some help.
[01:18] <deww> hi folks. how can i get the xterm that comes with xubuntu to have different geometry (besides running it with xterm -geometry 100x50)
[01:25] <nintnint> I have a query.
[01:26] <th0r> I have a computer
[01:26] <nintnint> I'm moving a lot of images, and some of them are the  same name, like 51.jpg.  is there any way to have it rename them instead of skipping or replacing?
[01:27] <th0r> nintnint: not that I am aware of. You could do a shell script to do the job...but there is nothing in the repos
[01:28] <th0r> nintnint: just a thought. There are some renaming utilities...you could rename *.jpg (foldername)-*.jpg
[01:28] <th0r> nintnint: but that would rename everything...not just the dupes
[01:29] <nintnint> well if I cut everything, then skip the samenames, I can bulk rename the leftovers, like add a "b" before the .jpg
[01:29] <th0r> yup
[01:30] <th0r> nintnint: do a search in synaptic for
[01:30] <th0r> rename....found a bunch
[01:31] <nintnint> turns out it was only ten numbered files that shared names, so it was okay
[01:31] <nintnint> this time!!!
[01:31] <th0r> nintnint: something that looks like it might help.....rename utils
[01:31] <nintnint> is there a way to get desktop icons in list or details view?
[01:31] <nintnint> icons are so fat and bulky
[01:32] <th0r> nintnint: not that I know of
[01:33] <nintnint> damn
[01:33] <nintnint> that really sucks for me
[01:33] <th0r> nintnint: I don't use desktop icons so it isn't such a big deal for me. The desktop is just a temporary holding area for me.
[01:34] <nintnint> yeah, the same, but its either list, deets, or no icons at all
[01:34] <nintnint> I can't stand big fat unorganized icons taking up space like that on my desktop.
[01:35] <th0r> neither can I...that is why I don't have any....move everythign to a folder as soon as the downloads are complete
[01:35] <nintnint> why not download straight to a downloads folder?
[01:36] <th0r> nintnint: because, as soon as it is done I will move it to its permanent home....why have to navigate to two folders?
[01:36] <nintnint> also cool would be a way to embed a file manager to the desktop.
[01:36] <th0r> nintnint: I might copy things to the desktop while I am working on them, but as soon as I am done they go back to their 'home'
[01:37] <nintnint> fine
[01:39] <th0r> nintnint: I would like to see a way to size the desktop icons
[01:39] <nintnint> there is.
[01:39] <nintnint> go to settings, desktop, icons
[01:40] <nintnint> do NOT slide it though, I just tried that
[01:40] <nintnint> went from 7 to 160 something
[01:40] <nintnint> it shows each pixel increase
[01:40] <nintnint> lags a bitch
[01:41] <th0r> oh cool....I can have my minimized windows on the desktop ala E16
[01:41] <th0r> and get rid of that darn taskbar!
[01:42] <nintnint> the panel?
[01:42] <nintnint> you can autohide it.
[01:44] <th0r> I don't want to hide the whole panel...have other things on it. But want to get rid of the task bar...it is too windows-ish
[01:45] <th0r> oh...that is MUCH better <smile>
[01:47] <th0r> now if I could just get the minimized icons in the bottom left corner <smile>
[01:52] <nintnint> probably some way
[01:52] <nintnint> the autohide is much better?
[01:52] <nintnint> you know we got a miystery to solve
[01:54] <nintnint> I always autohide the taskbar in windows
[01:55] <nintnint> with alt tab, the start button, notification area, notifying me, there's no need to have it there all the time
[01:59] <nintnint> so how about that iTunes!
[01:59] <nintnint> I mean am I rite?
[03:14] <Joelito> hi all,..question about menu.lst from /boot/grub
[03:15] <Joelito> in ubuntu when added the line vga=775 worked, but in xubuntu the boot splash doesn't show, any ideas?
[03:23] <RedSocrates> Joelito: Try entering an invalid number (like vga=733 or something), and then it should ask you to hit enter to see valid numbers, try one of them
[03:24] <RedSocrates> Joelito: For me, vga=773 no longer worked, but 305 did
[03:26] <Joelito> RedSocrates: thanks, but isn't the same kernel from ubuntu and xubuntu?
[03:26] <Joelito> why worked in ubuntu, and not in xubuntu?
[03:26] <RedSocrates> Joelito: It is the same kernel, so I'm not sure why there was a difference, but there was for me
[03:28] <Joelito> RedSocrates: thanks..I'll try some numbers :)
[03:28] <RedSocrates> Good luck :)
[03:29] <Joelito> :p
[03:30] <owen1> can i open links in irssi on the second monitor (FF is there!)?
[03:30] <owen1> and can i tell firefox to open tabs zoomed-in?
[04:43] <Kasm279> is there a keyboard shortcut to kill a fullscreen app?
[04:45] <Kasm279> HELLO?
[04:45] <Kasm279> floating: you have any idea?
[05:05] <Kasm279> >:|
[05:30] <Aqa> aria download manager why not for xubuntu?
[09:06] <MaxFrames> hello
[09:07] <MaxFrames> I am trying to set up smartmontools on a xubuntu system in order to monitor SMART data
[09:08] <MaxFrames> the only problem is that I am not receiving the email warnings because there is a problem with the system default mailer (bsd-mailx)
[09:08] <MaxFrames> the logs show that bsd-mailx did try to send the email, but it was rejected by the mail server with this error:
[09:09] <MaxFrames> "Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname"
[09:09] <MaxFrames> so the question is: how do I set up bsd-mailx to use a specified FQHN?
[14:27] <gsa1> Hi
[14:28] <gsa1> I upgraded yesterday 2 machines of my home office to Xubuntu 9.04 (I was using 8.04 LTS)
[14:28] <gsa1> And seems that 9.04 need around 1GB more than 8.04/8.10
[14:28] <gsa1> Is ok?
[14:28] <Devilsprey99> hello I m new to this
[14:28] <gsa1> Hi
[14:28] <Devilsprey99> 9.04 doesnot have unmount option
[14:29] <Devilsprey99> and i wanna ask how do we set layout switchin shortcut keys
[14:29] <Devilsprey99> in *.10
[14:30] <Devilsprey99> 8.10
[14:30] <gsa1> doesn't have the umount?
[14:30] <Devilsprey99> on graphical phase
[14:31] <Devilsprey99> u cant find umount option for flash drives when u left click on them
[14:31] <Devilsprey99> at least not on my comp
[14:31] <gsa1> let me check, not tried yet
[14:32] <gsa1> here the option is on place, as usual
[14:32] <gsa1> "Desmontar Volumen", on spanish, as I use Xubuntu
[14:32] <Devilsprey99> may be its just for my computer
[14:33] <Devilsprey99> i too use Xubuntu
[14:33] <gsa1> but I would know why is using 1GB more than previous versions
[14:33] <Devilsprey99> I upgraded from ubuntu
[14:33] <gsa1> I mean if is normal or is something I can clean
[14:33] <Devilsprey99> i m  new to it
[14:33] <gsa1> ahh...yes, I also made some update on a laptop in the past
[14:33] <gsa1> I means ubuntu->xubuntu
[14:34] <Devilsprey99> yep
[14:34] <Devilsprey99> i wanna know some things
[14:34] <Devilsprey99> my pc didnot supported graphics of ubuntu
[14:34] <Devilsprey99> so i went to safe graphics mode
[14:34] <Devilsprey99> and upgraded
[14:34] <Devilsprey99> now can i change to normal
[14:41] <gsa1> mm, not sure about the procedure
[14:41] <Devilsprey99> anyone gonna tell me how to setup shortcut keys for keyboard layout switching
[14:46] <Devilsprey99> plz
[14:50] <Devilsprey99> why so silent
[14:52] <gsa1> hehe, well, is the irc, may be not people reading or not people knowing a response
[14:56] <Devilsprey99> darn
[14:57] <vidd> what up Devilsprey99 ?
[14:57] <Devilsprey99> can you tell me how to setup shortcut keys regarding keyboard layout switching
[14:58] <Allah_kegyeltje> Ola brotha'z
[14:58] <vidd> you want a keyboard shortcut to switch keyboard layout?
[14:58] <Allah_kegyeltje>  The Holy djihad against #ubuntu jaunty started today
[14:58] <Allah_kegyeltje>  The install pack contains a few dozens of bugs and trojans
[14:58] <Allah_kegyeltje>  Do not install that, if it is possible
[14:58] <Allah_kegyeltje>  Very dangerous and risky!
[14:59] <Devilsprey99> yes
[14:59] <vidd> Devilsprey99, i would recommend the keyboard switcher panel app
[15:00] <Devilsprey99> i use 8.10
[15:00] <Devilsprey99> i couldnt find one
[15:00] <vidd> ??
[15:00] <vidd> right-click on a panel
[15:00] <vidd> choose "add"
[15:00] <vidd> select "keyboard layout"
[15:02] <vidd> its been part of the defualt package of available panel apps since (at least) dapper
[15:02] <Devilsprey99> well i need to setup shorcut keys
[15:03] <Devilsprey99> from keyboard
[15:03] <Devilsprey99> so that i can change to layouts while typing
[15:03] <vidd> choose "keyboard" from the settings manager menu
[15:03] <vidd> !layout
[15:04] <vidd> that help?
[15:06] <vidd> Devilsprey99, the reason i recommend against keyboard shortcut to change layout is because...once you use it, the layout has changed and your shortcut may not work (i havent done it so i dont know)
[15:07] <Devilsprey99> vidd, thanks
[15:07] <vidd> np
[15:08] <Devilsprey99> well it easily does in ubuntu
[15:08] <Devilsprey99> as i have used it
[15:08] <Devilsprey99> and so does in opensuse as well
[15:08] <Devilsprey99> i couldnt find one in Xubuntu but
[15:08] <vidd> like i said...i never tried it...so i dont know if you will or not have issues
[15:10] <vidd> !shortcut
[15:11] <vidd> Devilsprey99, the first link may not be useful....xorg.conf is hardly looked at anymore....
[15:14] <Devilsprey99> vidd,  ok thanks
[15:14] <Devilsprey99> i would see the keytouch
[15:46] <slow-motion> hi
[15:47] <vidd> hello Slonkie
[15:47] <vidd> hello slow-motion
[15:48] <slow-motion> hi vidd
[15:49] <vidd> was your greeting a greeting or a prelude to a question =]
[15:50] <vidd> \0. cody-somerville
[15:50] <cody-somerville> Hiya
[15:56] <Devilsprey99> can anyone tell me
[15:56] <Devilsprey99> after u upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10
[15:56] <vidd> Devilsprey99, tell ya what?
[15:56] <Paddy_EIRE> !enter | Devilsprey99
[15:56] <Devilsprey99> how to set up ur network manager applet
[15:57] <Devilsprey99> vidd,  ok
[15:57] <vidd> Devilsprey99, whats wrong with it?
[15:58] <Devilsprey99> well i use pppoe
[15:58] <Devilsprey99> and my ethernet doesnot show
[15:58] <vidd> ic
[15:59] <vidd> can you open /etc/network/interfaces in a text editor, copy it to pastebin, and post the link to your pastebin here?
[15:59] <vidd> !pastebin
[16:01] <vidd> !pppoe | Devilsprey99
[16:05] <vidd> Devilsprey99,
[16:06] <vidd> Devilsprey99, are you talking to us on the system you are having the issue with?
[16:06] <Devilsprey99> vidd, yep
[16:06] <vidd> ok...
[16:06] <Devilsprey99> i m new to irc thing so
[16:07] <vidd> deci, thats ok....
[16:07] <vidd> Devilsprey99,
[16:07] <vidd> now...right-click on the panel app for your network connection
[16:07] <vidd> choose "edit connections"
[16:07] <vidd> click the "DSL" tab
[16:08] <vidd> click add, set your stuff up
[16:08] <Devilsprey99> well i had an issue when i upgraded from 8.04 my network manager applet showed unmanaged network
[16:08] <Devilsprey99> so i had to take trouble of installin in safe graphics mode
[16:09] <vidd> Devilsprey99, did the steps listed above work for you?
[16:13] <Devilsprey99> well I know how to use pppoeconf but my internet provider uses password login so I want an appletmanager of 8.10 not of 8.04 but when i upgrade it wont be of the same when i install 8.10 directly
[16:13] <Devilsprey99> how do i change to that so that when i upgrade it automatically configures auto eth0 in wired section
[16:14] <vidd> Devilsprey99, this is why i asked you to pastebin me your /etc/network/interfaces
[16:15] <vidd> but since you did not do that, i stated the step-by-step to set it up grafically
[16:16] <vidd> so...do you want it done with the applet, or do you want it hard coded?
[16:16] <vidd> Devilsprey99, ^^^
[16:17] <Devilsprey99> i m now using 8.10 on safe mode and if i get solution to that i would have to reinstall 8.04 and and do it
[16:18] <vidd> Devilsprey99, so you are using the live cd?
[16:18] <Devilsprey99> yes
[16:19] <vidd> ok... and you want to upgrade?
[16:19] <Devilsprey99> i dont have any os rite now
[16:19] <vidd> ic
[16:19] <vidd> do you have a second computer that connects to the internet?
[16:19] <Devilsprey99> i want to upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 to xubuntu 8.10
[16:19] <Devilsprey99> nop
[16:20] <Devilsprey99> i did it once
[16:20] <Devilsprey99> i had problem with network mnager applet
[16:20] <Devilsprey99> the one i mentioned above
[16:20] <vidd> if you have 8.04 installed already, boot into that, and we can help you from there
[16:21] <vidd> its a simple matter of doing a system upgrade
[16:21] <vidd> all your old settings (dsl, creen resolutions. documents, etc) will be preserved
[16:22] <vidd> you did say this system was running a different version without issue correc?
[16:22] <vidd> Devilsprey99, ^^^
[16:22] <Devilsprey99> yep
[16:23] <vidd> Devilsprey99, what os is currently installed on the system?
[16:26] <vidd> Devilsprey99, ^^^^
[16:27] <Devilsprey99> wait i will try pastebin for my problem so that u can get what i wanna say
[16:28] <vidd> Devilsprey99, your currently running a live cd
[16:28] <vidd> you need to install so that we can fix up the system
[16:29] <Devilsprey99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/180455/
[16:29] <Devilsprey99> just give me some process
[16:30] <vidd> is there an operating system currently installed on the system?
[16:31] <vidd> Devilsprey99, ^^^
[16:31] <Devilsprey99> yes
[16:31] <vidd> con you get online with it?
[16:31] <Devilsprey99> i m online with it
[16:31] <Devilsprey99> as i asked earlier its in safe graphics mode
[16:32] <vidd> Devilsprey99, you told me that you are currently online with a live cd
[16:32] <Devilsprey99> and if anyone knows how to change to normal mode
[16:32] <Devilsprey99> did I
[16:32] <Devilsprey99> oh sorry
[16:33] <vidd> so you are NOT online with the live cd, you are online with the regular desktop?
[16:33] <Devilsprey99> yes but i wanna change
[16:34] <vidd> yes to live cd? or yes to native ?
[16:34] <Devilsprey99> to native normal mode of xubuntu
[16:35] <Devilsprey99> 8.10
[16:35] <vidd> so you are currently online, in 8.10, running off the hard drive, not a live cd?
[16:36] <Devilsprey99> yes
[16:36] <vidd> so...what is your issue?
[16:36] <vidd> if your online, then your pppoe is working
[16:36]  * vidd is totally confused
[16:38] <Devilsprey99> did u see the pastebin
[16:38] <vidd> yes
[16:38] <Devilsprey99> i knew u were
[16:39] <vidd> and it still makes no sence
[16:39] <vidd> im STILL waiting for your /etc/network/interfaces
[16:40] <vidd> i asked you to pastebin it over 40 minutes ago
[16:44] <Devilsprey99> auto lo
[16:44] <Devilsprey99> iface lo inet loopback
[16:44] <Devilsprey99> ]
[16:44] <vidd> !pastebin | Devilsprey99,
[16:45] <Devilsprey99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/180472/
[16:47] <vidd> and is this for when it says "network unmanaged"? or when it says "auto eth0"?
[16:47] <Devilsprey99> it is for now
[16:47] <Devilsprey99> its workin
[16:48] <vidd> that was not a "yes" or "no" question!
[16:48] <Devilsprey99> auto eth0
[16:48] <vidd> so right now, network manager shows your wired connection?
[16:49] <Devilsprey99> once i upgraded from 8.04 at that time it didnot
[16:49] <vidd> it was a yes or no question....
[16:50] <vidd> RIGHT NOW....yes or no?
[16:51] <vidd> Devilsprey99, you need to understand that i dont use network manager....i have deleted it from my system.....
[16:51] <vidd> but i understand how it works
[16:51] <Devilsprey99> yes
[16:51] <Devilsprey99> it shows rigth now
[16:52] <vidd> so....im not worried right now about other situations....i care about right now with your /etc/network/interfaces set up as it is...does it behave as you expect?
[16:52] <Devilsprey99> yes
[16:52] <vidd> good
[16:52] <vidd> once you are in that other situation where it does NOT work....
[16:52] <Devilsprey99> but i want the same behaviour when i upgrade from 8.04
[16:53] <vidd> edit your /etc/network/interfaces to mach what it is right now
[16:53] <Devilsprey99> and it doesnot
[16:53] <Devilsprey99> oh
[16:53] <Devilsprey99> ok thanks
[16:53] <Devilsprey99> i will be back
[16:53] <vidd>    |0

[16:56]  * vidd loves watching the light bulb com on!
[17:00] <vidd> \0. SiDi
[17:01] <SiDi> hey hey
[17:02] <vidd> just spent the last hour with a real hair-puller
[17:02] <vidd> =]
[17:03] <SiDi> what is a hair puller ? :P
[17:03] <charlie-tca> dim bulb
[17:03] <vidd> i was ready to pull all my hair out while helping someone
[17:04] <vidd> charlie-tca, ya gots to give the man(?) some slack...he was from nepal
[17:04] <charlie-tca> I give him lots of slack, but still seemed dim. You did really good with him
[17:05] <vidd> i work for a dial-up isp....95% of our customers are dim bulbs
[17:05] <vidd> =]
[17:41] <slow-motion> bye
[17:44] <genii> vidd: That nni.com site?
[17:45] <vidd> genii, ?
[17:50] <genii> vidd: I'll PM
[17:52] <vidd> ok
[18:57] <vidd> nalioth, may i message you?
[19:09] <nalioth> vidd: any time
[19:10] <vidd> nalioth, ty...but mquin answered my ? already in channel
[19:15] <titan_ark> hey, needed some help with installing a dvd burner. brasero has given me enough trouble :(
[19:15] <titan_ark> any suggestions?
[19:16] <nalioth> titan_ark: gnomebaker or k3b work fine
[19:16] <Slonkie> sudo apt-get install k3b (tho i believe someone told me that they are build on the same source?)
[19:16] <titan_ark> okay. i thought k3b was only for kde
[19:17] <vidd> titan_ark, make sure you have dvdrtools installed...otherwise, no burning app will work
[19:17] <titan_ark> the last time i used brasero to copy a dvd it burned just 700 MB :'(
[19:17] <titan_ark> here i must say i am a total noob at linux
[19:17] <vidd> titan_ark, yeah...your missing dvdrtools
[19:18] <titan_ark> oh damn!
[19:18] <vidd> "sudo apt-get install dvdrtools
[19:18] <titan_ark> shall try that right away!
[19:18] <titan_ark> thanks a ton
[19:18] <vidd> titan_ark, i fisbee'd half a spool of dvd's b4 i realized this!
[19:19] <titan_ark> :D
[19:19] <vidd> it was a real homer simpson moment
[19:19] <titan_ark> well i decided to turn to good ol xp and i have created a problem that is way beyond my control
[19:20] <titan_ark> :D
[19:21] <vidd> ?
[19:21] <titan_ark> xp decided to trouble me and gave me a "delayed write error" on my external hdd after that 2 partitions on my 250gig are empty in linux and 1 partition empty in xp!
[19:22] <titan_ark> i used a recovery tool on xp and could find the data but dont have the free space to copy it out now :(
[19:22] <titan_ark> any suggestions on how i can recover my data thro xubuntu?
[19:22] <vidd> you running a live cd?
[19:22] <titan_ark> no, dual boot
[19:23] <vidd> how many optical drives?
[19:23] <titan_ark> one
[19:23] <vidd> and internal drives?
[19:24] <titan_ark> one internal hdd and one external
[19:24] <vidd> the internal or external the one with the missing partitions?
[19:24] <vidd> *empty
[19:25] <titan_ark> the external. its a 250GB into 5 partitions of ~50 each
[19:25] <titan_ark> all ntfs
[19:26] <vidd> and the xubuntu...is that loacal?
[19:26] <titan_ark> sorry dint get u.
[19:26] <vidd> bah..*internal
[19:26] <titan_ark> sorry, my bad. yes xubuntu is on internal
[19:27] <titan_ark> my internal has 5 partitions 1 for xp 1 for xubuntu 2 data and 1 swap
[19:27] <vidd> and the external is the one that you have the empty partitions on?
[19:28] <titan_ark> yup
[19:28] <vidd> then im going to recommend a data recovery tool
[19:28] <vidd> let me find it
[19:29] <titan_ark> on xp it indicates it as a "raw" partition and only 1 is inaccessable
[19:29] <titan_ark> but on xubuntu 2 partitions are empty!
[19:29] <titan_ark> well i used one on xp and it did show me my data
[19:29] <titan_ark> need to create space to move that data out
[19:29] <vidd> so you can see all the data on all the partitions?
[19:30] <titan_ark> well on xp the problem is only in 1 partition, and that i can see , well almost all
[19:30] <titan_ark> some data cant be recovered
[19:31] <titan_ark> i wonder why on xubuntu 2 partitions have gone kaput!
[19:31] <vidd> how important is this data? more important then the stuff on your internal?
[19:31] <titan_ark> oh no!
[19:32] <vidd> i have a tool that runs as a live cd that will recover all the data (or as much as possible)
[19:32] <titan_ark> oh cool, which one?
[19:33] <vidd> i recommend that you disconnect the external until you are ready to run it
[19:33] <titan_ark> yes, that i have done
[19:33] <vidd> im still looking for it =\
[19:33] <titan_ark> okay :)
[19:33] <titan_ark> any idea why 2 partitions are empty in xubuntu?
[19:34] <titan_ark> and in windows the computer management shows that 1 partition as 'healthy' , so i am assuming the partition table got corrupted due to some reason
[19:34] <Redhammer_the_Ol> hi, I know this is a daft question but where do I set the regional settings in xubuntu ???
[19:34] <vidd> because every time you look at a partition you are writing to it
[19:35] <vidd> redd, reginal?
[19:35] <vidd> like date/time?
[19:35] <titan_ark> whoa! :O
[19:35] <vidd> Redhammer_the_Ol, , reginal?
[19:35] <Redhammer_the_Ol> like date format
[19:36] <titan_ark> vidd, is k3b better than brasero?
[19:36]  * vidd despises KDE apps
[19:36] <Redhammer_the_Ol> the tooltip on the clock is doable of course but I have a feeling I need setlocale to do the rest ?
[19:37] <titan_ark> ooh
[19:37] <titan_ark> i just happened to see some reviews and complaints of discs not working after burning with brasero!
[19:37] <vidd> titan_ark, im kinda partial to gnomebaker....but i think that is defunct now
[19:38] <titan_ark> bunt my fingers once with it
[19:38] <titan_ark> vidd, ah oki
[19:38] <titan_ark> i will be burning this data and deleting it from my hdd, so dont want to take any risks
[19:38] <titan_ark> :(
[19:39] <titan_ark> else, i will end up loosing another 50 gigs of data in attempt to recover 100!
[19:42] <vidd> titan_ark, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[19:43] <titan_ark> vidd, thanks a ton!
[19:44] <titan_ark> could you also suggest something reliable to burn my data?
[19:45] <vidd> titan_ark, i thought i did
[19:46] <vidd> get dvdrtools
[19:46] <titan_ark> yeah did that
[19:46] <vidd> then your brasario will be fine
[19:46] <titan_ark> okay thats cool
[19:46] <vidd> try it
[19:46] <titan_ark> yup shall do that right away
[19:47] <titan_ark> thanks a ton
[19:47] <vidd> np happy to help
[19:48] <titan_ark> :)
[20:01] <titan_ark> vidd, does dvdrtools need to come up as a plugin in brasero?
[20:05] <vidd> no
[20:05] <vidd> its a back-end tool
[20:07] <titan_ark> okay
[20:07] <titan_ark> do i need to select that i am burning a dvd :S all options are for cd/ dvd :S
[20:08] <titan_ark> and no options to control the burn speed also!
[20:11] <vidd> one sec
[20:12] <titan_ark> okay
[20:13] <vidd> if you select "data project" it *should* set to burn to whatever you load in....
[20:13] <titan_ark> oh okay
[20:13] <vidd> for example, if you load a blanck dvd...it should detect its a dvd and write to it accordingly
[20:13] <titan_ark> hmm okay
[20:13] <vidd> at least...i believe this to be the case
[20:13] <titan_ark> wat abt speeds?
[20:14] <vidd> the system i am on right now only has a cd burner so i cant verify
[20:14] <titan_ark> oh okay
[20:14]  * vidd never messes with that stuff
[20:14] <titan_ark> :D
[20:14] <vidd> if the drive can burn it, that same drive can read it
[20:14] <titan_ark> i guess the only way il know is burn and chk it at work tomorrow :P
[20:15] <vidd> yep
[20:15] <titan_ark> sigh, hope i dont waste another one!
[20:15]  * vidd uses dvd+rw's for just this reason!
[20:16] <titan_ark> its weird that it doesnt give options to select the speed either! what if i want to burn at a low speed for safety reasons
[20:17]  * titan_ark cant seem to find his only rw :(
[20:17] <vidd> i think that is set when it comes time to burn
[20:17] <vidd> got a spare HD lying around? =]
[20:18] <Vargsvans> hello i have a problem that i wonder if anyone know a solution to
[20:18] <Vargsvans> my harddrive is full as in 0 bytes free
[20:18] <titan_ark> HD :O nope
[20:18] <Vargsvans> but now when i try to delete files it says its unable to
[20:18] <vidd> Vargsvans, so what is the question?
[20:19] <vidd> Vargsvans, HOW are you deleting the files?
[20:19] <Vargsvans> yeah how can i delete the files
[20:19] <vidd> let me re-phrase....
[20:20] <vidd> what procedure are you using to delete files that is failing?
[20:21] <vidd> Vargsvans, ^^^
[20:22] <vidd> Vargsvans, are you right-clicking an item in a file manager and choosing "delete"?
[20:22] <Vargsvans> sudo rm /blabla/
[20:22] <Vargsvans> yeah tried that too
[20:22] <vidd> are you trying to delete an entire directory?
[20:24] <Red_afk> bw found it, it was not in the permitted locales
[20:24] <Red_afk> thanks
[20:24] <vidd> Vargsvans, are you trying to delete specific files, or entire directories?
[20:25] <Vargsvans> vidd, yeah but know i tried deleting a single file whiched worked and know deleting anything works
[20:25] <Vargsvans> *now
[20:25] <Vargsvans> thank you
[20:25] <Vargsvans> stupid sister who filled the harddrive on her computer...
[20:25] <vidd> Vargsvans, to remove entire directories that are not empty....
[20:25] <vidd> Vargsvans, "sudo rm -Rf /path/to/directory/
[20:27] <vidd> Vargsvans, just make sure you do NOT have a space after that first / (that will delete your entire root directory)
[20:27] <knome> ;O
[20:28]  * titan_ark thinks 55 minutes to burn is 4 gb @ 16x is blasphemy 
[20:29] <vidd> Vargsvans, if that was my system....id delete her account (with all files) and rebuild the account!
[20:30] <titan_ark> aww, that would be harsh!
[20:30] <vidd> but im evil
[20:30] <vidd> bet she'd learn =]
[20:30] <titan_ark> lol
[20:31] <knome> girls never learn
[20:31] <vinnl> But knome'll teach em ;-)
[20:31] <vidd> only took my old lady 4 formats to teach her to stay away from limewire
[20:31] <knome> vinnl, exactly!
[20:31] <titan_ark> :D
[20:31] <vidd> (and blacklisting the site in the home router)
[20:32] <titan_ark> dont seem to get any girls here i must say!
[20:32] <knome> vidd, "old lady" sound a bit....kinky
[20:32] <vidd> well...she's not "the wife" yet
[20:32] <titan_ark> 24 minutes to just create checksum b4 the burn seems bad :(
[20:33] <vidd> titan_ark, you ARE recovering data off a damaged drive...are you not?
[20:33] <titan_ark> oh no! just burning stuff to create space and then start that process!
[20:34] <vidd> titan_ark, how much swap space and ram you got?
[20:34] <titan_ark> hmmm 500MB swap and 256MB RAM, ridiculous i know
[20:34] <titan_ark> no, sorry 1 GB swap
[20:35] <vidd> there's your reason
[20:35] <vidd> (the ram...not the swap)
[20:35] <chaos[1]> hello?
[20:35] <titan_ark> sigh, i know
[20:35] <titan_ark> cant help it though
[20:35] <vidd> !hello | chaos[1]
[20:35] <vinnl> !hi
[20:36] <vinnl> xD
[20:36] <chaos[1]> How can i install xubuntu to a usb drive from a already installed xubuntu desktop?
[20:36] <vidd> vinnl, i beat ya =]
[20:36] <vinnl> You sure did :)
[20:36] <titan_ark> :D
[20:36] <vinnl> chaos[1], depends on the version of Xubuntu :)
[20:36] <knome> vinnl is on a hilarious mood
[20:36] <chaos[1]> 9.04
[20:36] <vidd> !usb
[20:36] <vinnl> Then Applications->System->USB Startup Disk Creator
[20:36] <vinnl> I believe, at least it's called something like that
[20:36] <chaos[1]> it is a external usb drive
[20:37] <chaos[1]> hard drive
[20:37] <vinnl> Ow
[20:37] <vinnl> Ehm
[20:37] <knome> a normal installation then, eh?
[20:37] <chaos[1]> yes
[20:37] <vinnl> I think you'll have to install it the same as you did on the first hard drive
[20:37] <chaos[1]> live cd all over again
[20:37] <vidd> chaos[1], remove the internal drive and throw in your installer disk?
[20:37] <vinnl> Though you might be able to install the application 'ubiquity' (the installer) on your desktop... But I wouldn't try it
[20:37] <vinnl> !info ubiquity
[20:38] <chaos[1]> ty
[20:38] <chaos[1]> havent been on irc since i was 15
[20:38] <knome> i have a music dvd, but my computer thinks it is an audio cd.
[20:38] <chaos[1]> l0l
[20:38] <chaos[1]> a decade ago
[20:38] <chaos[1]> !ty vinnl
[20:38] <knome> you have avoided some brain damage then
[20:38] <vinnl> ^.^
[20:39] <titan_ark> so I am the ultimate n00b here :P
[20:39] <knome> vidd, vinnl: any ideas on how to deal with that?
[20:39] <vinnl> knome, with what?
[20:39] <knome> 22:38  knome: i have a music dvd, but my computer thinks it is an audio cd.
[20:40] <vidd> knome, it is an audio cd
[20:40] <vidd> a really really BIG one
[20:40] <vidd> =]
[20:40] <knome> vidd, it is not. it *is* a dvd-single
[20:40] <vinnl> Nope, no idea, I never burn stuff
[20:40] <vinnl> Well, except for other people, that is
[20:40] <knome> i never burn stuff either ;)
[20:40] <knome> i just try to rip it
[20:40] <vinnl> Oh yeah, I never do that either :P
[20:41] <vinnl> I download my music :)
[20:41] <knome> i do that almost every day :P
[20:41] <vidd> knome, but for all intent and purposes....is an audio optical disk (the computer lables that "audio cd....no mater what optical format the disk is)
[20:41] <vinnl> Because I'm cheap like that :) <3 Jamendo
[20:41] <knome> vinnl, hehe
[20:41] <Vargsvans> anyone know if there is a ubuntu to equivalent to windows "diruse" where you can see how much space folders use?
[20:41] <knome> vinnl, how can i see the contents?
[20:41] <knome> *vidd
[20:41] <vidd> Vargsvans, "df"
[20:41] <vinnl> Vargsvans, Baobab
[20:42] <vinnl> I believe it's in the gnome-utils package
[20:42] <vinnl> !info gnome-utils
[20:42]  * titan_ark needs to burn his box x-(
[20:42] <vidd> !df
[20:42] <vinnl> Yep, I believe that's the one
[20:42] <vinnl> Hah ^.^
[20:42]  * vidd LOVES df
[20:42]  * knome loves his wife
[20:43] <vidd> so do i
[20:43] <knome> heh
[20:43] <knome> so anyway
[20:43] <knome> how can i see the contents of that disc
[20:43] <vidd> knome, you know what i mean!
[20:43] <knome> i know ;]
[20:43] <vidd> should be able to view it the same way you view stuff on any other....
[20:44] <vidd> mount it and ls it
[20:44] <knome> yeah, but it doesn't show any content on /media/cdrom
[20:44] <vidd> thats weird
[20:44] <knome> what's the fs type for a dvd?
[20:45] <vidd> ah.....
[20:45] <vidd> dunno\
[20:45] <vidd> !dvd
[20:48] <vidd> knome, sorry...i gots nothing
[20:48] <knome> ok
[20:49] <vidd> but hey...when ya figure it out...blog it!
[20:49] <vidd> =]
[20:49] <knome> heh
[20:49] <knome> suppose it is iso9660
[20:49] <knome> meh
[20:50] <vidd> knome, its propably using the same fs type as audio cd's use
[20:50] <vidd> and that is why its getting id'd as that
[20:51] <knome> yeah.. but if i insert a (working) dvd-single, it shows me video_ts and audio_ts as directories on /media/cdrom
[20:52] <vidd> knome, and what happens if you put in a "normal" AUDIO cd?
[20:52] <knome> it doesn't show anything in /media/cdrom and performs the default audio cd action (open sound-juicer)
[20:52] <knome> this is what happens with this dvd-single
[20:52] <vidd> there you go then
[20:53] <knome> but no tracks are shown on sound juicer either
[20:53] <knome> i can't see *any* content
[20:53] <vidd> so this audio dvd is a giant-messed up audio cd
[20:53] <knome> there seems to be some I/O errors on the DVD, but the disc itself is ok
[20:54] <vidd> out of curiosity....have you tried putting it into ,say, a dvd player (set-top box) or a cd player?
[20:54] <knome> not yet.
[20:54] <vidd> i would be interested in its performance
[20:54] <knome> the cd cover says that "this dvd does not play on a normal cd player"
[20:55] <knome> so it *is* definitely a dvd
[20:55] <knome> if they have shipped me the correct disc with the case ;>
[20:55] <vidd> yeah...so its quite possible that it wont play on a "normal" dvd player either!
[20:56] <knome> i'll go try our dvd player and then our windows machine
[20:56] <knome> just a moment
[20:56] <vidd> *shutter* DMCA *shutter*
[20:57] <knome> dvd player says audio cd
[20:57] <knome> what the heck.
[20:57] <vidd> knome, so it works?
[20:57] <knome> i'm starting to think this is not the correct disc :P
[20:57] <vidd> on the dvd player
[20:57] <knome> there's only three tracks
[20:57] <knome> haven't tried playing anything yet
[20:57] <vidd> try it
[20:57] <ElectricHeavyLan> Do you think 'apt-get install apache2' command give me everything I need to set up the Apache HTTP webserver locally on my machine?
[20:57] <vidd> perhaps you got a bad burn
[20:58] <vidd> ElectricHeavyLan, well...not EVERYTHING
[20:58] <vidd> !lamp
[20:59] <vidd> ElectricHeavyLan, it all depends on what you want to do
[20:59] <vidd> if your doing web design, you are going to want ALOT more then just apache
[21:00] <ElectricHeavyLan> If I just want to play around with serving up static files....though, I might want to "mess" with some .cgi stuff. Maybe installing the '' as well.
[21:00] <vidd> ElectricHeavyLan, but if all you want to do is static web pages, then yes apache2 will get everything it needs to load apache
[21:01] <ElectricHeavyLan> I already have Perl 5.10 MySQL installed.
[21:01] <vidd> ElectricHeavyLan, i would still recommend getting apache, php, and mySQL
[21:01] <ElectricHeavyLan> Maybe installing the 'libapache2-mod-perl2' package for that
[21:02] <vidd> ElectricHeavyLan, if you install "phpmyadmin" it will bring in them all
[21:02] <ElectricHeavyLan> note taken, thanks.
[21:03] <knome> vidd, it is an audio cd. they have shipped me a wrong disc.
[21:04] <vidd> knome, if you lived in the USA, id tell ya to SUE them
[21:04] <vidd> =]
[21:06] <knome> nah
[21:06] <knome> i only paid 2,60 euros for it (including shipping from uk)
[21:06] <knome> it's not worth it
[21:06] <knome> i'll just order a new one from another place.
[21:07] <Slonkie> or tell them to send you the proper CD?
[21:07] <knome> i will.
[21:07] <vidd> knome, thats the problem with these europeans!
[21:07] <vidd> JUST KIDDING!!!!!!
[21:07] <knome> i'll just give it to some of my friends.
[21:07] <knome> ;)
[21:07] <knome> vidd, hehe
[21:10]  * Slonkie thinks.. atleast europeans know's that africa isen't an country!
[21:10] <knome> hehehe
[21:10] <knome> but most of them still don't know that polar bears don't walk in the streets of finnish cities
[21:10] <vidd> americans know its not a country
[21:11] <knome> vidd, they know it's "not us" ;P
[21:11] <vidd> it the polititians that "mispeak"
[21:11] <Slonkie> ye right
[21:11] <Slonkie> I think palin show's off the knowledge of an average American quite good... :D
[21:11] <vidd> knome, when did y'all drive out the polar bears?
[21:11] <knome> :P
[21:11] <vidd> =]
[21:12] <vidd> Slonkie, did you see the entire interview? where she corrected herself
[21:12] <Slonkie> nah
[21:12] <vidd> yeah
[21:12] <Slonkie> It's bad enough even "misspeaking" that
[21:13] <vidd> contenent...country....
[21:13] <vidd> they sound similar
[21:13] <vidd> =]
[21:13] <Slonkie> blame the english language.. there's quite an difference :P
[21:13] <knome> yeah, two same letters at the beginning...
[21:13] <knome> or more like, a consonant and a wovel at the beginning
[21:13] <knome> must be the same thing
[21:14] <vidd> but this chatter is better for -offtopic
[21:15] <vidd> knome, you coming?
[21:19] <titan_ark> damn 2 hrs to burn 4 gb!
[21:20] <vidd> not bad
[21:20] <titan_ark> and i get some errors at the end of it
[21:20] <titan_ark> where would the log file have been saved? pardon my ignorance
[21:20] <titan_ark> not bad :O
[21:22] <titan_ark> vidd, any idea?
[21:22] <vidd> sorry
[21:22] <titan_ark> okay
[21:23] <titan_ark> gonna have a helluva time backing up my data at this rate!
[21:23] <titan_ark> time to get some sleep :( just 3 hrs
[21:23] <titan_ark> thanks again vidd :)
[22:55] <mandragora22> hi everybody
[22:55] <mandragora22> I lost windows from my grub...
[22:56] <mandragora22> can anyone help me?
[22:58] <mandragora22> k, guys, think about it i'll be right back!