[00:00] Aqa: true [00:00] owen1: just checked synaptic...it sure requires a lot of support including openbox [00:01] ok [00:01] th0r, u ar ealways here [00:01] u are always here* [00:01] th0r, where to report xubuntu bugs? [00:01] Aqa: no...will be putting the computer away later tonight and won't be online for weeks. [00:01] th0r, why [00:01] Aqa: I would expect xubuntu.com, but not sure. [00:02] Aqa: I am on a sailboat...heading to the Chesapeake for the summer [00:20] hey guys Ive got this Broadcom 4813 that I am trying to get to work. I do not know where I am going wrong and I would appreciate some help. === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville [01:18] hi folks. how can i get the xterm that comes with xubuntu to have different geometry (besides running it with xterm -geometry 100x50) [01:25] I have a query. [01:26] I have a computer [01:26] I'm moving a lot of images, and some of them are the same name, like 51.jpg. is there any way to have it rename them instead of skipping or replacing? [01:27] nintnint: not that I am aware of. You could do a shell script to do the job...but there is nothing in the repos [01:28] nintnint: just a thought. There are some renaming utilities...you could rename *.jpg (foldername)-*.jpg [01:28] nintnint: but that would rename everything...not just the dupes [01:29] well if I cut everything, then skip the samenames, I can bulk rename the leftovers, like add a "b" before the .jpg [01:29] yup [01:30] nintnint: do a search in synaptic for [01:30] rename....found a bunch [01:31] turns out it was only ten numbered files that shared names, so it was okay [01:31] this time!!! [01:31] nintnint: something that looks like it might help.....rename utils [01:31] is there a way to get desktop icons in list or details view? [01:31] icons are so fat and bulky [01:32] nintnint: not that I know of [01:33] damn [01:33] that really sucks for me [01:33] nintnint: I don't use desktop icons so it isn't such a big deal for me. The desktop is just a temporary holding area for me. [01:34] yeah, the same, but its either list, deets, or no icons at all [01:34] I can't stand big fat unorganized icons taking up space like that on my desktop. [01:35] neither can I...that is why I don't have any....move everythign to a folder as soon as the downloads are complete [01:35] why not download straight to a downloads folder? [01:36] nintnint: because, as soon as it is done I will move it to its permanent home....why have to navigate to two folders? [01:36] also cool would be a way to embed a file manager to the desktop. [01:36] nintnint: I might copy things to the desktop while I am working on them, but as soon as I am done they go back to their 'home' [01:37] fine [01:39] nintnint: I would like to see a way to size the desktop icons [01:39] there is. [01:39] go to settings, desktop, icons [01:40] do NOT slide it though, I just tried that [01:40] went from 7 to 160 something [01:40] it shows each pixel increase [01:40] lags a bitch [01:41] oh cool....I can have my minimized windows on the desktop ala E16 [01:41] and get rid of that darn taskbar! [01:42] the panel? [01:42] you can autohide it. [01:44] I don't want to hide the whole panel...have other things on it. But want to get rid of the task bar...it is too windows-ish [01:45] oh...that is MUCH better [01:47] now if I could just get the minimized icons in the bottom left corner [01:52] probably some way [01:52] the autohide is much better? [01:52] you know we got a miystery to solve [01:54] I always autohide the taskbar in windows [01:55] with alt tab, the start button, notification area, notifying me, there's no need to have it there all the time [01:59] so how about that iTunes! [01:59] I mean am I rite? === Pici` is now known as Pici [03:14] hi all,..question about menu.lst from /boot/grub [03:15] in ubuntu when added the line vga=775 worked, but in xubuntu the boot splash doesn't show, any ideas? [03:23] Joelito: Try entering an invalid number (like vga=733 or something), and then it should ask you to hit enter to see valid numbers, try one of them [03:24] Joelito: For me, vga=773 no longer worked, but 305 did [03:26] RedSocrates: thanks, but isn't the same kernel from ubuntu and xubuntu? [03:26] why worked in ubuntu, and not in xubuntu? [03:26] Joelito: It is the same kernel, so I'm not sure why there was a difference, but there was for me [03:28] RedSocrates: thanks..I'll try some numbers :) [03:28] Good luck :) [03:29] :p [03:30] can i open links in irssi on the second monitor (FF is there!)? [03:30] and can i tell firefox to open tabs zoomed-in? [04:43] is there a keyboard shortcut to kill a fullscreen app? [04:45] HELLO? [04:45] floating: you have any idea? [05:05] >:| === genii-2 is now known as genii-around [05:30] aria download manager why not for xubuntu? [09:06] hello [09:07] I am trying to set up smartmontools on a xubuntu system in order to monitor SMART data [09:08] the only problem is that I am not receiving the email warnings because there is a problem with the system default mailer (bsd-mailx) [09:08] the logs show that bsd-mailx did try to send the email, but it was rejected by the mail server with this error: [09:09] "Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname" [09:09] so the question is: how do I set up bsd-mailx to use a specified FQHN? [14:27] Hi [14:28] I upgraded yesterday 2 machines of my home office to Xubuntu 9.04 (I was using 8.04 LTS) [14:28] And seems that 9.04 need around 1GB more than 8.04/8.10 [14:28] Is ok? [14:28] hello I m new to this [14:28] Hi [14:28] 9.04 doesnot have unmount option [14:29] and i wanna ask how do we set layout switchin shortcut keys [14:29] in *.10 [14:30] 8.10 [14:30] doesn't have the umount? [14:30] on graphical phase [14:31] u cant find umount option for flash drives when u left click on them [14:31] at least not on my comp [14:31] let me check, not tried yet [14:32] here the option is on place, as usual [14:32] "Desmontar Volumen", on spanish, as I use Xubuntu [14:32] may be its just for my computer [14:33] i too use Xubuntu [14:33] but I would know why is using 1GB more than previous versions [14:33] I upgraded from ubuntu [14:33] I mean if is normal or is something I can clean [14:33] i m new to it [14:33] ahh...yes, I also made some update on a laptop in the past [14:33] I means ubuntu->xubuntu [14:34] yep [14:34] i wanna know some things [14:34] my pc didnot supported graphics of ubuntu [14:34] so i went to safe graphics mode [14:34] and upgraded [14:34] now can i change to normal [14:41] mm, not sure about the procedure [14:41] anyone gonna tell me how to setup shortcut keys for keyboard layout switching [14:46] plz [14:50] why so silent [14:52] hehe, well, is the irc, may be not people reading or not people knowing a response [14:56] darn [14:57] what up Devilsprey99 ? [14:57] can you tell me how to setup shortcut keys regarding keyboard layout switching [14:58] Ola brotha'z [14:58] you want a keyboard shortcut to switch keyboard layout? [14:58] The Holy djihad against #ubuntu jaunty started today [14:58] The install pack contains a few dozens of bugs and trojans [14:58] Do not install that, if it is possible [14:58] Very dangerous and risky! [14:59] yes [14:59] Devilsprey99, i would recommend the keyboard switcher panel app [15:00] i use 8.10 [15:00] i couldnt find one [15:00] ?? [15:00] right-click on a panel [15:00] choose "add" [15:00] select "keyboard layout" [15:02] its been part of the defualt package of available panel apps since (at least) dapper [15:02] well i need to setup shorcut keys [15:03] from keyboard [15:03] so that i can change to layouts while typing [15:03] choose "keyboard" from the settings manager menu [15:03] !layout [15:03] To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts [15:04] that help? [15:06] Devilsprey99, the reason i recommend against keyboard shortcut to change layout is because...once you use it, the layout has changed and your shortcut may not work (i havent done it so i dont know) [15:07] vidd, thanks [15:07] np [15:08] well it easily does in ubuntu [15:08] as i have used it [15:08] and so does in opensuse as well [15:08] i couldnt find one in Xubuntu but [15:08] like i said...i never tried it...so i dont know if you will or not have issues [15:10] !shortcut [15:10] Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts [15:11] Devilsprey99, the first link may not be useful....xorg.conf is hardly looked at anymore.... [15:14] vidd, ok thanks [15:14] i would see the keytouch [15:46] hi [15:47] hello Slonkie [15:47] hello slow-motion [15:48] hi vidd [15:49] was your greeting a greeting or a prelude to a question =] [15:50] \0. cody-somerville [15:50] Hiya [15:56] can anyone tell me [15:56] after u upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 [15:56] Devilsprey99, tell ya what? [15:56] !enter | Devilsprey99 [15:56] Devilsprey99: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [15:56] how to set up ur network manager applet [15:57] vidd, ok [15:57] Devilsprey99, whats wrong with it? [15:58] well i use pppoe [15:58] and my ethernet doesnot show [15:58] ic [15:59] can you open /etc/network/interfaces in a text editor, copy it to pastebin, and post the link to your pastebin here? [15:59] !pastebin [15:59] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [16:01] !pppoe | Devilsprey99 [16:01] Devilsprey99: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE [16:05] Devilsprey99, [16:06] Devilsprey99, are you talking to us on the system you are having the issue with? [16:06] vidd, yep [16:06] ok... [16:06] i m new to irc thing so [16:07] deci, thats ok.... [16:07] Devilsprey99, [16:07] now...right-click on the panel app for your network connection [16:07] choose "edit connections" [16:07] click the "DSL" tab [16:08] click add, set your stuff up [16:08] well i had an issue when i upgraded from 8.04 my network manager applet showed unmanaged network [16:08] so i had to take trouble of installin in safe graphics mode [16:09] Devilsprey99, did the steps listed above work for you? [16:13] well I know how to use pppoeconf but my internet provider uses password login so I want an appletmanager of 8.10 not of 8.04 but when i upgrade it wont be of the same when i install 8.10 directly [16:13] how do i change to that so that when i upgrade it automatically configures auto eth0 in wired section [16:14] Devilsprey99, this is why i asked you to pastebin me your /etc/network/interfaces [16:15] but since you did not do that, i stated the step-by-step to set it up grafically [16:16] so...do you want it done with the applet, or do you want it hard coded? [16:16] Devilsprey99, ^^^ [16:17] i m now using 8.10 on safe mode and if i get solution to that i would have to reinstall 8.04 and and do it [16:18] Devilsprey99, so you are using the live cd? [16:18] yes [16:19] ok... and you want to upgrade? [16:19] i dont have any os rite now [16:19] ic [16:19] do you have a second computer that connects to the internet? [16:19] i want to upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 to xubuntu 8.10 [16:19] nop [16:20] i did it once [16:20] i had problem with network mnager applet [16:20] the one i mentioned above [16:20] if you have 8.04 installed already, boot into that, and we can help you from there [16:21] its a simple matter of doing a system upgrade [16:21] all your old settings (dsl, creen resolutions. documents, etc) will be preserved [16:22] you did say this system was running a different version without issue correc? [16:22] Devilsprey99, ^^^ [16:22] yep [16:23] Devilsprey99, what os is currently installed on the system? [16:26] Devilsprey99, ^^^^ [16:27] wait i will try pastebin for my problem so that u can get what i wanna say [16:28] Devilsprey99, your currently running a live cd [16:28] you need to install so that we can fix up the system [16:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/180455/ [16:29] just give me some process [16:30] is there an operating system currently installed on the system? [16:31] Devilsprey99, ^^^ [16:31] yes [16:31] con you get online with it? [16:31] i m online with it [16:31] as i asked earlier its in safe graphics mode [16:32] Devilsprey99, you told me that you are currently online with a live cd [16:32] and if anyone knows how to change to normal mode [16:32] did I [16:32] oh sorry [16:33] so you are NOT online with the live cd, you are online with the regular desktop? [16:33] yes but i wanna change [16:34] yes to live cd? or yes to native ? [16:34] to native normal mode of xubuntu [16:35] 8.10 [16:35] so you are currently online, in 8.10, running off the hard drive, not a live cd? [16:36] yes [16:36] so...what is your issue? [16:36] if your online, then your pppoe is working [16:36] * vidd is totally confused [16:38] did u see the pastebin [16:38] yes [16:38] i knew u were [16:39] and it still makes no sence [16:39] im STILL waiting for your /etc/network/interfaces [16:40] i asked you to pastebin it over 40 minutes ago [16:44] auto lo [16:44] iface lo inet loopback [16:44] ] [16:44] !pastebin | Devilsprey99, [16:44] Devilsprey99,: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [16:45] http://paste.ubuntu.com/180472/ [16:47] and is this for when it says "network unmanaged"? or when it says "auto eth0"? [16:47] it is for now [16:47] its workin [16:48] that was not a "yes" or "no" question! [16:48] auto eth0 [16:48] so right now, network manager shows your wired connection? [16:49] once i upgraded from 8.04 at that time it didnot [16:49] it was a yes or no question.... [16:50] RIGHT NOW....yes or no? [16:51] Devilsprey99, you need to understand that i dont use network manager....i have deleted it from my system..... [16:51] but i understand how it works [16:51] yes [16:51] it shows rigth now [16:52] so....im not worried right now about other situations....i care about right now with your /etc/network/interfaces set up as it is...does it behave as you expect? [16:52] yes [16:52] good [16:52] once you are in that other situation where it does NOT work.... [16:52] but i want the same behaviour when i upgrade from 8.04 [16:53] edit your /etc/network/interfaces to mach what it is right now [16:53] and it doesnot [16:53] oh [16:53] ok thanks [16:53] i will be back [16:53] |0 [16:54] <0> [16:56] * vidd loves watching the light bulb com on! [17:00] \0. SiDi [17:01] hey hey [17:02] just spent the last hour with a real hair-puller [17:02] =] [17:03] what is a hair puller ? :P [17:03] dim bulb [17:03] i was ready to pull all my hair out while helping someone [17:04] charlie-tca, ya gots to give the man(?) some slack...he was from nepal [17:04] I give him lots of slack, but still seemed dim. You did really good with him [17:05] i work for a dial-up isp....95% of our customers are dim bulbs [17:05] =] [17:41] bye [17:44] vidd: That nni.com site? [17:45] genii, ? [17:50] vidd: I'll PM [17:52] ok [18:57] nalioth, may i message you? [19:09] vidd: any time [19:10] nalioth, ty...but mquin answered my ? already in channel [19:15] hey, needed some help with installing a dvd burner. brasero has given me enough trouble :( [19:15] any suggestions? [19:16] titan_ark: gnomebaker or k3b work fine [19:16] sudo apt-get install k3b (tho i believe someone told me that they are build on the same source?) [19:16] okay. i thought k3b was only for kde [19:17] titan_ark, make sure you have dvdrtools installed...otherwise, no burning app will work [19:17] the last time i used brasero to copy a dvd it burned just 700 MB :'( [19:17] here i must say i am a total noob at linux [19:17] titan_ark, yeah...your missing dvdrtools [19:18] oh damn! [19:18] "sudo apt-get install dvdrtools [19:18] shall try that right away! [19:18] thanks a ton [19:18] titan_ark, i fisbee'd half a spool of dvd's b4 i realized this! [19:19] :D [19:19] it was a real homer simpson moment [19:19] well i decided to turn to good ol xp and i have created a problem that is way beyond my control [19:20] :D [19:21] ? [19:21] xp decided to trouble me and gave me a "delayed write error" on my external hdd after that 2 partitions on my 250gig are empty in linux and 1 partition empty in xp! [19:22] i used a recovery tool on xp and could find the data but dont have the free space to copy it out now :( [19:22] any suggestions on how i can recover my data thro xubuntu? [19:22] you running a live cd? [19:22] no, dual boot [19:23] how many optical drives? [19:23] one [19:23] and internal drives? [19:24] one internal hdd and one external [19:24] the internal or external the one with the missing partitions? [19:24] *empty [19:25] the external. its a 250GB into 5 partitions of ~50 each [19:25] all ntfs [19:26] and the xubuntu...is that loacal? [19:26] sorry dint get u. [19:26] bah..*internal [19:26] sorry, my bad. yes xubuntu is on internal [19:27] my internal has 5 partitions 1 for xp 1 for xubuntu 2 data and 1 swap [19:27] and the external is the one that you have the empty partitions on? [19:28] yup [19:28] then im going to recommend a data recovery tool [19:28] let me find it [19:29] on xp it indicates it as a "raw" partition and only 1 is inaccessable [19:29] but on xubuntu 2 partitions are empty! [19:29] well i used one on xp and it did show me my data [19:29] need to create space to move that data out [19:29] so you can see all the data on all the partitions? [19:30] well on xp the problem is only in 1 partition, and that i can see , well almost all [19:30] some data cant be recovered [19:31] i wonder why on xubuntu 2 partitions have gone kaput! [19:31] how important is this data? more important then the stuff on your internal? [19:31] oh no! [19:32] i have a tool that runs as a live cd that will recover all the data (or as much as possible) [19:32] oh cool, which one? [19:33] i recommend that you disconnect the external until you are ready to run it [19:33] yes, that i have done [19:33] im still looking for it =\ [19:33] okay :) [19:33] any idea why 2 partitions are empty in xubuntu? [19:34] and in windows the computer management shows that 1 partition as 'healthy' , so i am assuming the partition table got corrupted due to some reason [19:34] hi, I know this is a daft question but where do I set the regional settings in xubuntu ??? [19:34] because every time you look at a partition you are writing to it [19:35] redd, reginal? [19:35] like date/time? [19:35] whoa! :O [19:35] Redhammer_the_Ol, , reginal? === aaaaa is now known as Mindrocker [19:35] like date format [19:36] vidd, is k3b better than brasero? [19:36] * vidd despises KDE apps [19:36] the tooltip on the clock is doable of course but I have a feeling I need setlocale to do the rest ? [19:37] ooh [19:37] i just happened to see some reviews and complaints of discs not working after burning with brasero! [19:37] titan_ark, im kinda partial to gnomebaker....but i think that is defunct now [19:38] bunt my fingers once with it [19:38] vidd, ah oki [19:38] i will be burning this data and deleting it from my hdd, so dont want to take any risks [19:38] :( [19:39] else, i will end up loosing another 50 gigs of data in attempt to recover 100! [19:42] titan_ark, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec [19:43] vidd, thanks a ton! [19:44] could you also suggest something reliable to burn my data? === Redhammer_the_Ol is now known as Red_afk [19:45] titan_ark, i thought i did [19:46] get dvdrtools [19:46] yeah did that [19:46] then your brasario will be fine [19:46] okay thats cool [19:46] try it [19:46] yup shall do that right away [19:47] thanks a ton [19:47] np happy to help [19:48] :) [20:01] vidd, does dvdrtools need to come up as a plugin in brasero? [20:05] no [20:05] its a back-end tool [20:07] okay [20:07] do i need to select that i am burning a dvd :S all options are for cd/ dvd :S [20:08] and no options to control the burn speed also! [20:11] one sec [20:12] okay [20:13] if you select "data project" it *should* set to burn to whatever you load in.... [20:13]