[02:29] er... alsa-base is borked [02:30] is there a problem with xubuntu cd? i get segmentation fault when trying to burn it. [03:17] i did a checksum and I tried burning with brasero and xfburn but get errors. any clue? [03:58] is there a command to list all the packages available? dpkg -l only lists installed packages [03:59] [03:59] display all 36085 possibilties? [03:59] NO! [04:00] wanted something I can use in a script.. so o/p of some command would be helpful [04:02] one workaround is 'apt-cache search a' .. since the letter a is in all the packages or it;s description [04:02] apt-cache pkgnames? [04:04] search a will be missing some [04:12] Rail: pkgnames also shows non-existant packages, (but referred to by other packages) [04:12] apt-cache search "" game me what I was looking for .. all binary packages in the repo [04:13] Thanks for the help === mkorn is now known as thekorn [09:01] * calc doing another build hoping that the ooo-l10n rosetta stuff is unbroken now [09:31] TheMuso: are you aware of the alsa-base failure to install in karmic? [09:31] TheMuso: for 1.0.20+dfsg-1ubuntu1 [10:19] * cjwatson looks around for an MIR reviewer [10:21] cjwatson: I'm not an MIR reviewer, but I play one on TV. [10:22] unionfs-fuse bug 379952 kthxbye [10:22] Launchpad bug 379952 in unionfs-fuse "Main inclusion request: unionfs-fuse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379952 [10:30] cjwatson: I'm making doko do it, since he refuses to add me to the MIR team without pitti's approval. :P [10:30] cjwatson: (Looks good to me, though) [10:32] infinity: heh [10:32] thanks [10:37] hello? [10:38] Is this a good place to ask about video drivers? [10:38] cjwatson: infinity won't have an excuse after this session anymore [10:39] joekluse, if it's a support question, the proper channel is #ubuntu [10:39] thanks [11:21] hmm, why does "conffile move recipe" not give any useful google results [11:23] slangasek: Result 1 of 1: steal from another package. [11:24] infinity: which package? :) [11:24] slangasek: initramfs-tools might be okay. [11:25] slangasek: (Moved stuff from /etc/mkinitramfs to /etc/initramfs-tools) [11:25] slangasek: http://www.dpkg.org/dpkg/ConffileHandling [11:25] infinity: given that I don't see the handling being done in the preinst, I'd go with 'no' [11:25] slangasek: I make no guarantees that it's correct, but I don't recall any horrible critical bugs being filed. [11:25] seb128: does dpkg.org exist again? [11:25] slangasek: works here [11:25] slangasek: I see mangling in the preinst... [11:25] ah, cool [11:25] initramfs-tools.preinst: if [ -d /etc/mkinitramfs ]; then [11:25] .... [11:26] infinity: mm - but no 'mv', so that's not what I would expect for a conffile handler [11:27] slangasek: We move the directory, rather than the file, but after verifying files and avoiding spurious conffile prompts. [11:27] anyway, the dpkg.org one looks right :) [11:27] also, my use case seems to pathologically not be a conffile [11:27] so nevermind [11:27] \o/ [11:29] * hyperair pokes dtchen [11:29] dtchen: could you do something about alsa-base's preinst script? [11:29] ah wait [11:29] nevermind [11:29] looks like it's done [11:30] * hyperair whacks his outdated mirror [11:35] hyperair: a fix was uploaded an hour or so ago [11:35] hyperair: ah you found it, ok then. [11:43] the irda-utils maintainer scripts are sapping my will to live [12:16] hi, does anybody like to package httpfs to allow network booting from http server [12:17] i already tested it, it boots even via internet === Kano is now known as Kano32 === Kano32 is now known as Kano [13:39] sigh. okay, who do i poke to access something on the ubuntu bit of google docs? [13:39] if i click login, it forces "@ubuntu.com" [13:40] sekkrit docs? [13:42] directhex: but you're a motu, don't you have @ubuntu.com? [13:43] hyperair, it doesn't openid it, i don't have anything googly with @ubuntu.com [13:44] launchpad? [14:01] hi folks === sconklin1 is now known as sconklin [14:11] hyperair: should be fixed [14:11] dtchen: yes, i realized. [14:12] i'll just wait for the mirror here to update [14:16] slangasek, poke === asac_ is now known as asac [14:49] hyperair, google docs does not authenticate using launchpad. it needs a google account with the appropriate email address/j #uds-desktop [14:49] gah [14:49] heh [16:12] doko: ping === freeflying__ is now known as freeflying === thegodfather is now known as fabbione === yofel_ is now known as yofel === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:53] Today, after resuming from a hibernate (Jaunty) I didn't have my usb devices. Upon plugging USB devices, syslog shows: vmap allocation failed: use vmalloc= to increase size. This is running the kernel in -proposed, 2.6.28-12-generic #43-Ubuntu. The only bug I could find referencing that message had to do with ath5, so I take it this is not a known issue? [18:56] Found one post related to Jaunty, but not having to do with USB: http://blog.unitedheroes.net/archives/p/3588/got-my-nvidia-card-working-under-ubuntu/ [19:04] bug filed [19:28] Yes, sometimes the external USB HDD doesn't mount on startup... [19:28] Easily fixed by cutting power to it and reinsterting it. Annoying though [19:49] is there any policy about using PPAs for -proposed testing? [19:49] never heard of any such policy [19:54] hmm, I've some SRUs I'd like to push through but I'm not sure if I can get testers to use -proposed === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:47] hey, i just upgraded to jaunty. i have a dm-crypt/luks drive on external media that gets prompted for unlocking at boot which is good, but i noticed that the boot console (ctrl-alt-f8) is echoing my password [20:47] i've tried googling to see if this is a known bug, but i cant find anything [20:48] sounds tangentially related to bug #104602 [20:48] Launchpad bug 104602 in sysvinit "root password visible at emergency console" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104602 [20:49] yeah, it's not getting saved anywhere, but it is momentarily exposed on the boot console [20:51] the bug basically being that something odd happens to stdin/stdout of things sufficiently early in the boot process [20:51] #288408 looks similar [20:51] and therefor stty -echo or whatever doesn't work. [20:51] is there a known workaround? [20:53] or am i just going to have to mount these post-boot for a while? [20:55] Hi there, this is the developer channel, right? [20:56] for ubuntu development, yes [20:57] Alright, I have an idea for ubuntu that may help in the development project but I first need to know something. Is there a feedback system in place for betas/alphas? If it's just on IRC and Forums, I have a great idea. [21:00] geofft: thx for the help [21:01] Well, I think a lot of Ubuntu users come from Windows, right? [21:01] Those users, and apple users alike are used to sending support ticket type things. [21:01] If we had an offical form for them to fill out, we may get more information. Most likey, people in general are not familiar with IRC or forums? [21:01] If anyone likes the idea, I'd be more than excited to help with it? [21:02] are people coming straight from windows the best people to be running alphas and betas? [21:03] No, and it wouldn't have to just be for the betas, just for general suggestions / questions? [21:03] we have lots of support avenues already [21:03] perhaps you would want to make a better interface to one of those? [21:04] Could you direct me to one of these? I'd like to see what could be improved? [21:04] Justin10ec: there's Launchpad, and some interface for questions as opposed to bugs [21:05] I totally forgot about Launchpad! [21:05] Launchpad Answers, forums, Brainstorm (for suggestions), IRC, ubuntu-users mailing list [21:06] Other than helping with problems with software and hardware, what could I do to help Ubuntu? I'm great with software, yes, but I much rather enjoy other things like forum management or something like that. [21:08] http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ [21:08] see what takes your fancy [21:10] Documentation Team... Would this include rewritting things so that they make better since? Proofreading, grammar, spelling, etc? [21:10] sense* [21:10] I guess so [21:10] they probably have an IRC channel [21:10] #ubuntu-doc [21:12] Thanks :) === mthaddon changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Launchpad is going down from 22:00 UTC until 23:00 UTC for a code update | Archive: Open for development | Karmic alpha 1 released! | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper-jaunty | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs [22:14] calc, ping, where is this KDE4 patch for OOo [22:14] NCommander: it's in the source package (which is a tar within a tar or something) [22:14] NCommander: shtylman is looking at it too [22:15] Ah [22:16] Riddell, I'd like to do something to help improve KDE this cycle :-/ [22:17] NCommander: look in the source [22:17] NCommander: he may well not succeed, it's an elite task [22:17] NCommander: specifically under [22:17] NCommander: KDM guest session patch! :) [22:18] NCommander: ooo-build/patches/ooo300/apply (there is several KDE 4 patches in a KDE 4 target) [22:18] NCommander: its currently not set to be used but the patches are there [22:29] dtchen: your alsa-driver changes uploaded. [22:36] quick Q, not sure if it's the right place but figured I'd try. How do I enable the Bazaar Nautilus plugin? I installed bzr-gtk and nautilus-python, but nothing. [22:39] * calc thinks the alsa guys broke it on purpose because karmic was too stable ;-) [22:41] cellofellow: #ubuntu for support or maybe #bzr. [22:45] ScottK: yeah, just found #bzr, thanks [22:59] * calc hates Sun [22:59] closed bug won't fix for conflicting shortcuts with gtk [23:00] * calc will be glad once OOo is wringed from their control and is taken over by sane community people [23:03] calc, careful, that kind of talk gets you tarred & feathered by boycottnovell [23:03] hehe [23:04] * calc should keep a list of braindead bug closings for the next time Sun asks me what they should be doing to help out Ubuntu [23:04] they basically told me to fork OOo to make it work correctly, yet also want me to run vanilla OOo in Ubuntu [23:04] they are insane [23:06] evand1, non-a11y banshee widget 1 of 5 is now patched (but untested) by upstream [23:06] directhex: but boycottnovell always have responsible, accurate reporting [23:06] ajmitch, and soft, soft t-shirts [23:09] my anti-redhat shirt violates the CoC so i can't wear it :\ [23:10] that's hardly fun [23:27] directhex: AWESOME! [23:30] calc: :-D [23:35] whoa whoa whoa...no english language support. === sdh_ is now known as sdh [23:52] soren, kernel mode switching