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[00:35] <BUGabundo> night
[00:35] <micahg> night
[04:05] <micahg> yay!  mozilla-thunderbird is under 100 open issues
[06:12] <micahg> dtchen:
[06:12] <micahg> hi
[06:12] <micahg> would you know if a certain fix could be an SRU?
[06:19] <micahg> nevermind
[06:49] <micahg> asac: ping
[06:51] <micahg> nevermind..will send e-mail
[08:29] <asac> micahg: hi
[08:29] <micahg> hi
[08:30] <micahg> I wanted to make sure I didn't make a mess of things my first day
[08:30] <asac> micahg: yeah.
[08:30] <asac> micahg: so a few things up front on crashes:
[08:30] <asac> when you open up a crash you need to ensure that the CoreDump.gz is removed
[08:31] <asac> and take a brief look at the stacktraces if there is privacy relevant data visible like passwd etc.
[08:31] <asac> besides from that just shoot!
[08:32] <micahg> Do I need to do anything with teh COreDump file?
[08:37] <asac> micahg: no ... except removing them
[08:37] <micahg> ok
[08:37] <micahg> so why does apport upload it?
[08:37] <asac> if the backtrace is bad you could try to retrace them manually locally
[08:37] <micahg> is it used during retracing?
[08:38] <asac> yes. thats the core dump ... meaning its basically a dump of the programs state at the time of the crash
[08:38] <micahg> ah, ok
[08:38] <micahg> it's used to generate the traces
[08:38] <micahg> once they're generated we can remove it
[08:38] <micahg> I think I got it
[08:39] <asac> stefanlsd: hi. so i talked to persia and he promissed to do a license review on the gears package (which i am kind of lame on ) ... i he already found a few issues, which imo should be easy to address
[08:39] <micahg> Regarding Fix Released, I marked a couple bugs that were fixed upstream as Fix Released per the wiki status document
[08:40] <stefanlsd> asac: heys. thanks for pushing people around from your side :)
[08:41] <micahg> asac: does ubufox control apt:// urls in Firefox?
[08:42] <asac> micahg: no ... thats apturl package
[08:42] <micahg> ah
[08:42] <micahg> ok
[08:42] <micahg> so if apt:// doesn't work in 3.5, then it's an upstream bug?
[08:42] <asac> micahg: well. apturl is a ubuntu developed package ;)
[08:42] <asac> micahg: but yes, apturl needs to add their .js file to the right place
[08:43] <asac> micahg: reassign to apturl
[08:43] <asac> micahg: set importance to high
[08:44] <micahg> done
[08:46] <micahg> BTW, I've been removing mozilla-bugs as an assignee for stuff in general if it isn't being worked on
[08:47] <micahg> If I'm already touching it
[09:02] <asac> micahg: thats good
[09:04] <micahg> asac: is it ok to refer people to the mozilla dailies with fixes for issues as long as they;re warned that it's beta software?
[09:04] <micahg> I did it 2 or 3 times for TB3 fixes
[09:19] <asac> micahg: not sure what you mean with "refer" ... you can certainly ask them to check if its fixed there
[09:19] <asac> educating them about the pakages being dailies
[09:19] <micahg> ah, that's what I forgot
[09:19] <micahg> I told them it was beta
[09:20] <micahg> I refered them there because there would be no SRU
[09:22] <micahg> I'll remember that for next time
[09:25]  * micahg is going to bed
[09:25] <asac> micahg: night
[09:32] <gnomefreak> i need a crash course in gobby today. im not sure if its localhost that needs to be changed to oconnect to uds
[09:34] <asac> gnomefreak: you need to use gobby.ubuntu.com
[09:34] <asac> (at least i think)
[09:34] <gnomefreak> in place oflocalhost right?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks not sure but it connected to something
[09:38] <gnomefreak> no mozilla sesions?
[09:44] <reed_> How's Spain?
[09:48]  * gnomefreak tried Xorg edge packages to see if maybe i can get GUI in 2.6.30
[10:22] <asac> reed_: great .... but exhausting ;)
[10:23] <asac> for me those multi-event events are not really what i like ... just too much days in a hotel in a row
[10:23] <asac> fta: are you in some session?
[10:24] <fta> asac, yep, why?
[10:25] <asac> fta: just curious ;). appcenter?
[10:27] <fta> nope, qa
[10:34] <fta> asac, need me for something?
[10:35] <asac> fta: no hurry. wanted to talk a bit about the ffox 3.5 by default session; but we can do that later
[10:51] <gnomefreak> no matter what i do i cant get nvidia to run with the 2.6.30* kernels
[11:29] <fta> asac, there's a ff3.5-as-default session? when is that?
[13:19] <asac> fta: i added it today. will get sceduled by rick afaik
[13:19] <asac> so not before tomorrow
[13:19] <fta> asac, ok
[13:37] <gnomefreak> well >4 hours to play with X and its still broken and to finish emails. now im am tired
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[14:41] <fta> bug 380126
[14:41] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 380126 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "[Karmic] Touchpad not recognised correctly, synaptics driver not in use" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/380126
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[19:58] <gnomefreak> mozilla 95849  are you kidding they accept all kinds of bugs
[19:58] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 95849 in English US "Lack of Sex is interfering with my ability to triage bugs" [Major,Reopened] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95849
[20:16] <micahg> gnomefreak: wasn't bug 83118 solved when abrowser was released?
[20:16] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 83118 in firefox "Some Firefox components are non-free" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83118
[20:16] <gnomefreak> looking
[20:17] <gnomefreak> yes its solved make sur eyou tell them why ")
[20:17] <micahg> ok, I'll have to do that tonight
[20:18] <micahg> I was just a little scared of getting involved in such a heated issue
[20:20] <gnomefreak> ill do it. that way i get the yelling/lecture :)
[20:20] <micahg> ok, thanks
[20:21] <micahg> :)
[20:21] <micahg> you have a lot more cred than I have
[20:21] <micahg> I thought it was cool when I got to reply to a bug by the sabdfl
[20:22] <gnomefreak> done :)
[20:22] <gnomefreak> yeah it does happen :)
[20:22] <micahg> I just want to confirm
[20:22] <gnomefreak> more than likley asac will be the one yelling if its wrong
[20:23] <micahg> we use Fix Released when Mozilla releases a tarball with the fix?
[20:24] <gnomefreak> micahg: yeah should. and we use it for our fixes as well but not everyone uses it
[20:25] <gnomefreak> micahg: can you please try to confirm bug 373167 ill be back in a few dishes and smoke
[20:25] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 373167 in thunderbird "After installing Thunderbird, preferred applications shows both "Mozilla Thunderbird" and "Thunderbird"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373167
[20:26] <micahg> gnomefreak: I only have Mozilla thunderbird, but I"m on Xfce
[20:26] <gnomefreak> ah
[20:30] <gnomefreak> micahg: on bugs that is a feature request for ff3.0 or tb2.0 please have them report it upstream if they cant do that it is not likely to get fixed.
[20:30] <gnomefreak> i thought of that this morning but you werent here
[20:30] <micahg> gnomefreak: I generally report/find them upstream if I can
[20:30] <gnomefreak> ok now i really am going to dishes and smoke
[20:30] <gnomefreak> micahg: cool
[20:30] <micahg> one sec please
[20:30] <micahg> oh
[20:30] <micahg> it can wait till you come back
[20:31] <gnomefreak> give me ~10 minutes
[20:31] <micahg> ok
[20:31] <micahg> no problem, I'm inthe office and not going anywhere
[20:40] <gnomefreak> on whats up?
[20:42] <micahg> the e-mail that you sent me, you want me to cleanup the ff package like I started to do the mozilla-tb package?
[20:44] <gnomefreak> micahg: yes on the link i gave you do the first ones on that page. you will see three packages "firefox" "firefox-3.0" and "thunderbird"
[20:44] <micahg> ok
[20:44] <micahg> Are those status policies up to date?
[20:44] <micahg> I'll have to read it later
[20:45] <gnomefreak> If you work on the "firefox" packages change them to 3.0 than either invalid or if it still happens on 3.0 you know where to go with that. but yes pretty much the same
[20:45] <micahg> I won't be able to do too much until this weekend though
[20:45] <gnomefreak> not worrited about status at this time just the link on that page was my thing
[20:45] <micahg> Shouldn't I check to see if it's still an issue in 3.0 before moving?
[20:45] <micahg> if it's a 2 issue, shouldn't it be archived in the FF packge?
[20:46] <gnomefreak> micahg: when you get time its not that important. I had them below 100 at one time not sure what it is now
[20:46] <gnomefreak> micahg: we dont support firefox 2
[20:46] <micahg> It's around 200 now
[20:46] <micahg> right
[20:46] <micahg> exactle
[20:46] <micahg> so if the issue was only in FF2, I can close in the FF pacakge and no one will see it again
[20:46] <gnomefreak> yep invalid fixreleased or incomplete i was doing around 70 a day thats how fast they go
[20:47] <gnomefreak> yep but change it to 3.0 anyway incase they get the feeling it should be reopened
[20:48] <micahg> ok, so basically empty the package out of open issues
[20:49] <gnomefreak> im betting they installed mozilla-thunderbird since gnome hasnt updated yet in Karic they are same packages set up as Jaunty
[20:49] <micahg> like I said, won't be able to do much till this weekend
[20:49] <gnomefreak> micahg: yep
[20:49] <micahg> but over 2 weekends I think I can clear it out
[20:49] <gnomefreak> no worries time is not important
[20:49] <micahg> ok
[20:50] <micahg> asac wants me to start working on crashes too
[20:50] <micahg> maybe I'll do crashes during the week and cleanup on the weekend
[20:50] <gnomefreak> ok thats fairly simple. have them add crash report most of them are addon related
[20:51] <micahg> well, I think he was referring to the already existing private crashes
[20:51] <micahg> he gave me a quick tutorial this morning
[20:52] <micahg> I discoved a mozilla-firefox package as well
[20:52] <gnomefreak> ok
[20:52] <micahg> only 4 open bugs
[20:52] <micahg> I'll clean them out this weekend
[20:53] <gnomefreak> k
[20:54] <gnomefreak> i think i fixed SM2 to print :)
[20:54] <micahg> ah, I haven't looked at Seamonkey yet
[20:54] <micahg> does it have a smaller memory footprint that FF+TB?
[20:55] <gnomefreak> shit i lost that damn bug :(
[20:55] <micahg> also, should I subscribe to the mozilla bugs list?
[20:55] <gnomefreak> micahg: a little
[20:55] <micahg> do you use it?
[20:58] <gnomefreak> micahg: yep i have to since i package it
[21:08] <gnomefreak> ok ill be back dinner is ready
[21:32] <gnomefreak> asac: if you go to tech board meetings please bring up bug 83118  abrowser was made for this reason however there seems to be more than one complaint on the report one stating remove it from main and many others are wanting a free version by the looks of it. either that or we need to decide and close the bug
[21:32] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 83118 in firefox-3.0 "Some Firefox components are non-free" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83118
[21:35]  * gnomefreak waits for firefox to crash
[21:39] <mbana> with FF 3.0.10, do you guys get funny rendering with sites that use Arial, for instance, GMAIL
[21:40] <gnomefreak> mbana: i havent seen anything like that for gmail or most other sites i dont ever remembering seeing that bug however lots of people in the past have clained issues with font rendering but font bug was fixed in Jaunty. if it is related.
[21:41] <mbana> specifically with Arial?
[21:41] <gnomefreak> micahg: if you are still here can you please test the 2 links mentioned on the foloowing linkhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/338631/comments/4  or anyone else please more tests happyier ill be
[21:41] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 338631 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox crashes every time I click on link" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[21:41] <gnomefreak> micahg: no just fonts in general
[21:42] <gnomefreak> most people cant tell different fonts unless they change it themselves. Is it only with that font?
[21:43] <gnomefreak> oops mbana that was for you
[21:44] <micahg> gnomefreak: links are fine in FF3.0.10 with just flash installed
[21:45] <gnomefreak> micahg: yep thats what i got too other than slow loading
[21:46] <gnomefreak> although after closing those links firefox wont start becuase it thinks its running still
[21:46] <gnomefreak> at keast in *.10
[21:46] <micahg> not for me
[21:48] <gnomefreak> i hate reading tos :(
[21:48] <gnomefreak> micahg: thanks for testing can you please comment on the bug if you havent already
[21:49] <micahg> gnomefreak: I happen to have fast internet at work
[21:49] <micahg> maybe I should wait at home
[21:49] <micahg> till I'm home to test
[21:50] <gnomefreak> k
[21:50] <gnomefreak> SM2 prints better than firefox go figure
[21:51] <gnomefreak> firefox couldnt print a 2nd usful page. but i take that back its the site
[21:52] <gnomefreak> make from text editor it will print. Be back its a long print job