[01:16] <elky> Mamarok, part and rejoin this channel, m'dear.
[01:48] <elky> ikonia, aww, he gave up on gentoo.
[02:16] <Flannel> !grep
[02:23] <elky> snux can be thick sometimes...
[03:15] <ryanprior> Hey. Floodbot2 just yelled at me for flooding when I had hardly posted any messages. Just thought y'all might be interested to know.
[03:15] <ryanprior> This was in #ubuntu
[03:48]  * genii squirms over to the coffeepot, tapes his eyes open
[03:50] <Pici> How many of you browse with javascript disabled?
[03:57] <Flannel> Me!
[04:00] <genii> When from Firefox, no. When from elinks, yes
[04:00] <Flannel> Ironically, launchpad doesn't work in w3m
[04:00] <Flannel> (So, when X dies, you can't file a bug report about it)
[04:03] <Pici> I'm building something that might be of use to operators if I don't lose interest halfway through.
[04:09] <genii> Pici: You've piqued my interest now.
[04:13] <genii> What I'd like is something that can take /whois someone, examine uncloaked hostmask, deduce the country
[04:14] <Pici> There already are such scripts, such as geoip.pl for irssi
[04:15] <genii> Ah, nice
[04:22] <nalioth> anyone have any experience with flat file pastebins?  preferably not php
[04:29] <Flannel> Eh.  What's going on with mah and BUGBUNTU?
[04:29] <Flannel> er, BUGUNTU
[04:29] <Flannel> in #u
[04:29] <Flannel> anyone know?  I can't make heads or tails of it, except theyre antagonizing each otehr
[04:31] <Pici> dunno, but BUGUNTU looks to be the same person that I muted in +1 earlier
[04:33] <Pici> Anyways, sleep time for me.
[04:38] <elky> BUGUNTU just got flooded off, so go figure that.
[04:46] <Flannel> Howdy mah
[04:46] <mah> hi
[04:46]  * genii hands out coffees
[04:46] <Flannel> mah: What's the story between you and buguntu/dht?
[04:46] <mah> he is a troll
[04:46] <Flannel> Seems to be quite some animosity between you two
[04:46] <mah> how long have you been in #ubuntu?
[04:47] <mah> buguntu began trolling, calling ubuntu "anti linux"
[04:47] <Flannel> mah: so, it's just what happened in the past few hours then?
[04:47] <mah> then he started a private conversation with me saying "FUCK OFF AND DIE" repeatedly
[04:47] <mah> yes
[04:48] <mah> then he left, and dht started again with the same thing in a private conversation
[04:48] <mah> i would appreciate it if he was banned
[04:49] <Flannel> mah: Thanks for the explanation.  Also, please don't spam people with CTCP pings or anything like that.  If you're having a problem with someone in #ubuntu, let us know (using this channel is the most reliable way), and we'll see if we can't take care of it.
[04:49] <mah> he's gone now, but will probably be back acting stupid again
[04:49] <mah> it was fun
[04:50] <mah> was that visible to everyone? i would feel bad if I was creating an overflow
[04:50] <mah> I assumed I was simply messing with dht/buguntu
[04:51] <Flannel> It'd be better if you just wouldn't do it.  Just let us know and we'll see if we can't figure something out.
[04:51] <Flannel> mah: Anyway, thanks for letting us know.  I'll keep an eye out for him.
[04:52] <mah> ok.  next time.  So I should not say "kick <name>" in #ubuntu
[04:53] <Flannel> We do like to keep the non-support chatter down, yes.  You can come here and mention it, or if its an emergency and we don't seem to be around, that's what !ops is for
[04:54] <mah> alright.  Thanks!  are you an admin? or simply someone who knows what they are doing?
[04:56] <Flannel> I'm an operator in #ubuntu, but not freenode staff
[04:56] <Flannel> Howdy Jack_Sparrow
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey good to be back
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> No more AT&T in my life ever
[05:47] <nalioth> anyone in the USA who's familiar with "google hosting" and can explain it to me?
[06:10] <topyli> nalioth: isn't it just google apps for your domain?
[06:13] <nalioth> topyli: i have no earthly idea what it's about
[06:13] <nalioth> it recently showed up as an option with my web host
[06:14] <nalioth> "fully host your domain with Google" and i have no idea what that means
[06:16] <topyli> it means the dns records for your domain will point to google's servers and you use google's admin tools
[06:17]  * nalioth still has no idea what that means  :(
[06:17] <topyli> you can build your website with google's tools and persumably also point to your own handcrafted website hosted elsewhere
[06:18] <nalioth> thanks, topyli, but i'm still not understanding
[06:19] <topyli> your mail.nalioth.com will point to gmail, www.nalioth.com will point to google's web apps
[06:19] <topyli> the front page can persumably still be a real website hosted wherever you want
[06:19] <nalioth> so i'd be paying my hosting company to do nothing?
[06:20] <topyli> but you can have calendar.nalioth.com and docs.naliot.com and those will be google.apps. the www.nalioth.com website can point to your website hosted at your current web host
[06:22] <topyli> i chose not to do that. i only made my xmpp MX records point to google talk so that i can have a vanity jabber ID easily :)
[06:22] <nalioth> mmmkay
[06:22] <topyli> i'm not making any sense am i :)
[06:23]  * nalioth doesn't even know what Google Docs is or does (but i'll look it up later)
[06:23] <Flannel> topyli: wiat, wait, you can do that?
[06:23]  * Flannel is currently trying to figure out if he can have his domain hosters host xmpp
[06:23] <topyli> Flannel: yes, as i was happy to find out a while ago
[06:27] <topyli> Flannel: http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=34143
[06:29] <Flannel> hmmm.  So, can I do this with like jabber.org too?  I suppose the actual server doesn't matter, right? you log in with whatever name@server that you're redirecting from, right?
[06:30] <topyli> i don't know
[06:30] <Flannel> but, you sign in with [whatever]@[whereever] right?
[06:31] <topyli> yes
[06:32] <topyli> but i don't know whether jabber.org and other jabber servers work similarly and will accept your login if you simply point you@domain.com there
[06:32] <Flannel> mmmm I'd love for my JID to be the same as my email.  gmail is stupid in that it won't let you associate the two without acting in retarded ways.  If you change the name of the contact, you end up being able to send email to my @jabber contact.
[06:33] <topyli> indeed i like having firstname@lastname.net as both email and JID
[06:35] <topyli> but if you use gmail, don't expect your @flannel.com chat to appear in the @gmail.com webmail
[06:36] <Flannel> I don't use gmail.  But some people I talk to do.  So, currently they have a first@lastname email contact for me, and then an @jabber JID so they can do the chat thing.
[06:36] <Flannel> You can't associate the two and have it work, even though it looks like you can when modifying stuff re: the contact
[06:37] <topyli> nope, won't work
[06:37] <Flannel> What?
[06:38] <Flannel> You're saying I can't get firstname@lastname to show up in gmail for chatting?
[06:38] <topyli> yes
[06:38] <topyli> unless of course you let google handle your domain's mail too
[06:38] <Flannel> I'm confused now.
[06:39] <Flannel> topyli: How do you have firstname@lastname as a JID then?
[06:39] <Flannel> or does it just not show up as f@l in gmail chat?
[06:39] <topyli> no, in gmail i still have the username@gmail.com widget
[06:40] <topyli> my @owndomain jabber only works in a real jabber client
[06:40] <Flannel> what do you mean?  When talking to people who are using gmail, you show up as @gmail?
[06:40] <topyli> i show up as @mydomain. i'm only talking about the gmail webmail chat thingy
[06:41] <Flannel> Erm.  Oh, when you use it?
[06:41] <topyli> yes
[06:41] <Flannel> I use real clients.
[06:41] <Flannel> Not fake ones ;)
[06:41] <topyli> i don't use gmail anyway
[06:41] <Flannel> Nor do I.
[06:42] <topyli> so if you move your domain's email fully to google, your gmail-for-your-domain web interface will of course integrate the mail and chat
[06:42] <Flannel> I don't want to do that.
[06:42] <Flannel> oh, that was nalioth.
[06:42] <Flannel> I just want to have my email be my JIG
[06:42] <Flannel> er, JID
[06:43] <Flannel> I would never trust my email to google
[06:43] <topyli> well i'm not sure if you should trust your realtime chats then either :)
[06:43] <topyli> (you can turn off logging though)
[06:44] <Flannel> That's why I was interested in using jabber.org ;)
[06:44] <Flannel> but, I plan on calling my hosting provider, seeing if they'd be willing to set up jabber
[06:45] <Flannel> I've got shell access and all that good stuff, but knowing nothing about hosting a jabber server, I'm not sure what exactly I need.  If I'd need their assistance or if I can just do it myself.
[06:47] <topyli> i don't think it's very difficult to set up, but whether or not they'll let you run it is another matter
[07:34] <Myrtti> Pici: geoip.pl - don't get me started
[07:41] <Myrtti> GOOD MORNING!
[07:42] <Tm_T> ...
[07:43] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/180979/
[08:08] <jussi01> err, is this correct? verne.freenode.net /mode -b %*!*@ubuntu/bot/floodbot
[08:10] <Myrtti> someone has muted floodbots, and it's so long ago it shows to me as being set by verne
[08:11] <Flannel> Except, they've been talking for a while
[08:12] <Myrtti> s/floodbots/one of the floodbots/
[08:12] <Flannel> ah
[08:12] <jussi01> if they are opped they can talk though, right?
[08:13] <Myrtti> yup
[08:13] <Myrtti> or so I think
[08:14] <jussi01> is it that we dont want stuff they say when they are not opped?
[08:16] <Gary> yeah, a mute will only work if they are not voiced or opped
[09:41] <Flannel> !connection
[09:41] <Flannel> !ics
[09:42] <Flannel> Oh, I totally missed the lack of "sharing" in that factoid suggestion.
[09:44] <Tm_T> theres still no active maintain with firestarter?
[09:46] <prentice> hi
[09:46] <prentice> !internet
[09:47] <Myrtti> whut?!
[12:04] <Myrtti> Flannel: is it on IRC or UDS icecast?
[12:04] <Flannel> Myrtti: IRC
[12:04] <Flannel> Its a regular CC meeting
[12:05] <Flannel> #ubuntu-meeting
[12:05] <Flannel> Myrtti: Entire meeting is re: The ubuntu one thing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[12:05] <Myrtti> I'm not intrested on the ubuntu one though, but oh well
[12:05] <Flannel> other two have been postponed
[12:05] <wgrant> Convenient.
[12:06] <Flannel> wgrant: Well, meetings during UDS, and was postponed a week anyway (this is an off week for it) so...
[12:06] <Flannel> the others are only delayed a single week
[12:06] <wgrant> Yeah, true.
[12:06] <Flannel> It means I'll only have to stay up until 5 instead of 6 ;)
[12:07] <wgrant> Flannel: This could go on for a while...
[12:07] <wgrant> Although maybe not if nobody turns up.
[12:07] <Flannel> wgrant: I'm hoping it only takes an hour, yeah.
[12:29] <ikonia> good meeting going on now :)
[12:32] <RichiH> question: is it "allowed" to suggest some to set a root password so they can use 'su' instead of 'sudo'?
[12:32] <bazhang> not a good idea no
[12:32] <ikonia> RichiH: depends on the reason, use sound judgment
[12:33] <ikonia> RichiH: some people can deal with it, (I always do it) others can't
[12:33] <ikonia> just use common sense
[12:33] <bazhang> suggesting it for new users though is not a good idea
[12:33] <ikonia> RichiH: also keep in mind that by unlocking the root password other things (mysql for example) can break as they require the locked root password to set the initial admin password
[12:33] <ikonia> RichiH: it's all fixable, just use common sense
[12:34] <ikonia> actually, I think mysql's requiment may have gone post 8.04
[12:36] <RichiH> ikonia: i would hope so as that sounds horrible broken ;)
[12:36] <ikonia> RichiH: mysql-admin used to authenticate itself against the locked root account so "sudo" was the only way to launch it on the first time mysql was invoked
[12:37] <ikonia> I think it now prompts you for an admin password for mysql on install, it was just an example though
[12:39] <RichiH> setuid binaries? also, dpkg runs as root so everything that needs to be done could be done then. but yah, the point is somewhat moot. i am just, let's say surprised, by the agressiveness sudo is being hailed as The One Solution ;)
[12:40] <bazhang> it has been for a long long time. a number of factoids deal specifically with that.
[12:40] <ikonia> RichiH: it doesn't work for everything, that's why I unset it personally, but for the majority of point and click users there should be no problem with it
[12:41] <ikonia> RichiH: great examples are shell redirects, sudo cat /etc/hosts >/root/test - you'll get permission denied
[12:41] <elky> keyring stuff still latches onto the original sudo credentials
[12:41] <ikonia> RichiH: an average user won't know how to get around that
[12:41] <ikonia> elky: only root required keyring stuff though ?
[12:42] <RichiH> ikonia: well, from a security POV, ALL(ALL) is pure horror. but yah, it _can_ be easier for newbies
[12:42] <ikonia> RichiH: exactly, you see where I'm coming from, just common sense is needed 
[12:42] <RichiH> not that the people i told how to use linux have a problem with the different concepts of root & normal ;)
[12:42] <RichiH> aye
[12:42] <elky> ikonia, wifi on my netbook. it might have been the way i changed the password though or something.
[12:42] <ikonia> elky: interesting, is that 9.04 ?
[12:43] <elky> si senor
[12:43] <ikonia> elky: you may have just solved a bug I logged against 9.04, as that's not the case for 8.10
[12:43] <ikonia> more research is needed now as I hadnt considered that
[12:43] <ikonia> thank you 
[12:43] <elky> hehehe
[12:43] <ikonia> I'll get eagles to test and upstream it </troll> 
[12:44] <elky> he'll end up locking himself off the internet. nice going!
[12:44] <ikonia> seriously thank you, thats a good avenue for me to go down 
[12:44]  * elky purrs contently.
[12:46] <Tm_T> interesting
[12:48] <elky> ikonia, i think the auth for network manager might have gotten a bit of an overhaul or something. i seem to recall it used to be all gconf-land.
[12:53]  * RichiH waves :)
[13:39] <elky> wth is 'franklin street'?
[13:39] <Myrtti> I have no idea
[13:39] <Tm_T> free as in speetch
[13:39] <Tm_T> or so
[13:39] <Tm_T> not the "free as in beer"
[13:39] <Tm_T> or so
[13:41] <Myrtti> I'm lost there
[13:43] <Flannel> elky: http://autonomo.us/2008/07/franklin-street-statement/
[13:43] <Flannel> "Cloud stuff should be FOSS too"
[13:43] <Flannel> (as in, release your stuff, even if youre not "distributing" the code to your end users)
[13:44] <Flannel> er, distributing the binaries.
[13:45] <Mamarok> jussi01: you around?
[13:46] <jussi01> Mamarok: yeah, just arrived in...
[13:47] <Mamarok> jussi01: do you know where the lock file is that blocks dpkg? a user in #k can't unlock it an swears he has no other process open
[13:47] <Pici> !aptfix
[13:48] <jussi01> Mamarok: :D
[13:48] <Myrtti> ♥ 
[13:48] <Mamarok> Pici: thx :)
[13:48] <Pici> Mamarok: np
[13:48]  * Pici goes back to toiling in the factoid factory
[13:49] <Mamarok> we should have a current list of those, or is one available?
[13:50] <Flannel> !list
[13:50] <Flannel> eh
[13:50] <Flannel> !about
[13:50] <Flannel> oh, yes you do
[13:50] <Flannel> !yourself
[13:50] <Flannel> Mamarok: The first link
[13:52] <Mamarok> oh, that's the one I have, I just thought it was not up to date because of it saying 2006 at the bottom
[13:52] <jussi01> Mamarok: you can also do:
[13:52] <jussi01> !search apt
[13:52] <Mamarok> jussi01: thx, will try to remember that :)
[13:52] <jussi01> :)
[14:07] <Pici> Anyone happen to know what the UDS IRC channels are?
[14:09] <Ursinha> Pici, #ubuntu-devel-summit
[14:09] <bazhang> hehe
[14:09] <bazhang> #uds has some folks in it from UDS
[14:10] <jpds> #uds-* channels are also used for room discussions with remote peopele.
[14:10] <Pici> jpds: Thanks.
[14:13] <bazhang> link to franklin street on mako's blog
[14:14] <Flannel> I'm most frustrated now over the amount of time wasted due to bad initial press releases concerning Ubuntu one.
[14:16] <Flannel> alright, time to go sleep for an hour.
[14:19] <elky> ikonia, so am i correct in assuming that #k-o is about 20% eagles rabbiting on about crap?
[14:19] <ikonia> from what I've read
[14:19] <ikonia> I don't follow it that often unless there is something interesting going on 
[14:19] <ikonia> jussi01: and genii live in htere
[14:19] <ikonia> there
[14:20] <jussi01> 20%???
[14:20] <jussi01> try like 70...
[14:20] <jussi01> :D
[14:20] <Pici> a quick grep and wc -l shows about 1/5th, but who's counting?
[14:20] <ikonia>  ha
[14:21] <jussi01> Pici: since when...
[14:21] <Pici> jussi01: december
[14:22] <jussi01> Pici: we had a big influx of ikonia and hobbsee the other day - knocks it off balance ;P
[14:23] <ikonia> it was all hobbsee - honest
[14:23] <Pici> jussi01: I don't think they had an impact on the 10,000 lines that are eagles...
[14:24] <jussi01> rofl...
[14:35]  * genii wanders in
[14:36] <genii> Geez, are we still on about the eagles kid? ;)
[14:37] <Pici> I didn't start it
[14:38] <bazhang> dooglus getting -ot
[14:40] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[14:40] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[14:42] <elky> genii, i flickd into #k-o and saw a screen full of him. then scrolled up and saw another screen full of him.
[14:43] <genii> elky: He does tend to abuse the Enter key, I gave him a warning about it just after I got in there
[14:46] <jussi01> heh...
[14:47] <genii> jussi01: I see you're on it there as well....
[15:07] <elky> Myrtti, who?
[15:07] <Myrtti> trolll
[15:07] <Myrtti> with extra l
[15:07] <elky> @bansearch ubuntumacintosh
[15:07] <Pici> no results 
[15:07] <elky> which trollie?
[15:07] <Pici> I think him
[15:07] <elky> 'him'?
[15:08] <Pici> 'ubuntumacintosh'
[15:08] <Pici> Twitches my troll sense.
[15:08] <bazhang> yep
[15:08] <elky> myrtti recognised him though
[15:36] <genii> Weird. I've seen that reasoning of "jayde_drag0n" that announcing you're a girl for some reason gets you assistance faster. From a guy who does this... "adola" I think
[15:46] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: Are you speaking to amanda-b?
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Pici trying to now..
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> all I got from her/him was an insult in p
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> and a threat to ban ecade
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> wow, cant type this am.. evade
[15:48] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: Only telling you because you didn't remove them from the channel and people are still responding to them, even though they can't see the responses.
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> ah.. ty
[15:51] <bazhang> undeleting a ext3 partition is not an easy task imo
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[15:51] <bazhang> which is what she was complaining about
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> She was only asked not to say F in the channel and went right to rude from there
[15:52] <bazhang> yep
[15:53] <bazhang> from rude to ruder
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> and to things like  <amanda-b> please wave your penis elsewhere.   in pm
[15:53] <bazhang> whoa
[15:53] <Pici> well
[15:53] <Pici> whoa indeed.
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> More like a gender challenged 12yr old boy
[15:54] <Pici> Doesn't matter who it is, not appropriate anywhere.
[18:28] <mneptok> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_C-4300jZFa0/Shq7ZW0ay0I/AAAAAAAACIw/_NYLO1sFDrk/s1600-h/IMG_424
[18:52] <Mamarok> mneptok: cute :)
[18:53] <Pici> removed.
[18:53] <Pici> And interesting photo as well.
[19:11] <Pici> Does someone in #ubuntu-uk know why we keep getting these somewhat offtopic factoid requests on the bot?
[19:11] <Myrtti> nslu2 isn't quite offtopic though
[19:12] <Myrtti> Pici: because some of the ops encourage them, I suspect
[19:12] <Myrtti> !-tea
[19:12] <Myrtti> !-coffee
[19:12] <Pici> <.<
[19:12] <genii> !coffee
[19:12] <Pici> I don't remember editing it.
[19:13] <genii> Well, it *was* about a year ago...
[19:17] <genii> I actually made some comment about lack of a coffee factoid which Tm_T then took me up on to write. So I did and they added it. This is a while ago obviously now as you can tell by the original date :)
[19:21] <Seeker`> Pici: who was requesting them?
[19:21] <Pici> Seeker`: daubers right now (see -irc)
[19:22] <Pici> 2009-05-22 11:11:14 <ubot4> In #ubuntu-uk, daubers said: ubot4: ECDL is the European Computer Driving Licence
[19:22] <Pici> From the other day ^
[19:25] <Pici> Which I thought was a joke, but aparrently not.
[19:25] <Seeker`> I had a word with him
[19:26] <Mamarok> Pici: that very well exists, and the paritcularity is that the guidelines for the ECDL program do not specify particular applications for acheiving the DL
[19:26] <Pici> Mamarok: Interesting
[19:26] <Mamarok> unofrtunately alomost all programs are offered wit MS software exclusively
[19:26] <Mamarok> unfortunately*
[19:26] <Mamarok> I haven't seen on with Linux so far
[20:00] <Daviey> Pici: I did ask you why you thought it wasn't serious.  It's an entry level IT qualification
[20:02] <Myrtti> ECDL is based on a Finnish qualification that's commonly used in schools
[20:02] <Pici> Daviey: I guess I didn't see your question.
[20:02] <Myrtti> I did the classes back in... erm.
[20:02] <Myrtti> 1996 or so
[20:02] <Pici> Daviey: I thought it was a joke about needing a drivers license to use a computer.... 
[20:03] <Myrtti> "ECDL / ICDL is a test of practical skills and competencies and consists of seven separate modules covering computer theory and practice. To achieve an ECDL / ICDL certification, the Candidate must successfully pass a test in all seven modules. "
[20:03] <Pici> Of course, I didn't look it up or anything, that would have been too logical.
[20:04] <Seeker`> a good factoid request would have provided you with a link :P
[20:04] <Seeker`> might have been accepted then
[20:04] <Myrtti> true
[20:04] <Seeker`> heya Myrtti 
[20:04] <Daviey> Pici: many users *should* have a licence to use a computer :P
[20:05] <Myrtti> and computers should have an alcolock
[20:06] <Seeker`> knife-over-ip FTW
[20:13] <jussi01> cereal and yoghurt for dinner!! FTW!!
[20:13] <Myrtti> SHUTUP
[20:13] <Pici> :O
[20:13]  * Myrtti is going to get some lab tests done tomorrow, can't eat at this hour
[20:37] <Pici> oh
[20:51] <Seeker`> Myrtti: nothing major i hope
[20:52] <Myrtti> routine checkups
[20:52] <Myrtti> jussi01: SHUT UP.
[20:52] <Myrtti> :-P
[20:52] <jussi01> :(
[20:53] <Myrtti> cheeky bastards
[20:53] <Myrtti> :-D
[20:55]  * Pici can't wait until Myrtti can eat again
[20:56] <genii> For someone that "wants to get involved and start an ubuntu project" I hope the channels #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu are the right places to point them in. Is there some specific other places along these lines which is better to tell them?
[20:56]  * Mamarok goes to eat somewhere else then
[20:56] <Pici> !contribute | genii 
[20:56] <Pici> toot
[20:56] <genii> Pici: Ah, thanks
[20:56] <Pici> genii: sure
[23:20] <genii> Interesting. Do they primarily speak English in Lebanon? (the !lb factoid)
[23:37] <nickspoon> genii: Erm, primarily Arabic/French, but also English.
[23:38] <genii> Ah, OK. Just seemed odd since all the others are in the tongue usually of the country-code or so
[23:41] <Seeker`> anyone have any opinions on the welsh factoids being suggested in -irc?
[23:44] <Seeker`> !croeso
[23:44] <Seeker`> !Croeso is Helô! Croeso i'r sianel #ubuntu-cym
[23:44] <nickspoon> Welsh? That's not a real language!
[23:44] <Seeker`> !croeso > ianto
[23:44] <Seeker`> nickspoon: pfft :P
[23:45] <nickspoon> Blaenau ffestiniog
[23:45] <Seeker`> i have no idea if that is meant to mean anything
[23:45] <Seeker`> and if it is meant to, what it does mean
[23:46] <Seeker`> !Croeso is <reply>Helô! Croeso i'r sianel #ubuntu-cym
[23:47] <Seeker`> ubottu: no, Croeso is <reply>Helô! Croeso i'r sianel #ubuntu-cym
[23:47] <Seeker`> !croeso
[23:49] <Seeker`> channel specific factoid is !fact-#channel?