[00:00] Walzmyn, just ask dude [00:00] hi, i wanna download mdict but i can't find it in repos. [00:00] What's the content of your config file: /etc/X11/alright, I was goofing around with my desktop (trying to figure out what the heck activities are) and when i switched back to desktop from the appearance settings, all of the widgets were messed up, i can move them but a few seconds later they snap back. help? [00:00] coreymon77 (n=coreymon@ubuntu/member/coreymon77) has joined #kubuntu [00:00] whoa, [00:00] Walzmyn, come again? [00:01] ign0ramus: paste went screwy [00:01] Walzmyn, aha... what did you want to say? [00:01] What's the content of your config file: /etc/X11/default-display-manager ? [00:01] sorry, was tyring to make sure I spelled everything correctly :) [00:01] Walzmyn: huh? [00:02] coreymon77: you refering to my real question or when this thing pasted in something from my pidgin conversation? [00:02] you pinged me [00:02] Walzmyn, /usr/bin/kdm [00:03] ign0ramus: ok. somehow i got it set to gdm, which is in /sbin - I was just making sure I got it back right [00:03] coreymon77, he didn't mean to... he accidentally pasted something with your nick in it [00:03] coreymon77: ok, i see what it did, it pasted what i had highlighted in here. [00:03] okay [00:03] ign0ramus: thank you [00:03] Walzmyn, does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" allow you to reset normally? [00:04] ign0ramus: it had not been. but i just opened that file and it was correct, so i guess 9th time was the charm [00:04] Walzmyn, as long as you're set now :) [00:04] * Walzmyn nods [00:05] all of this just to show a guy what gnome looks like. not sure it was worth it! [00:05] Walzmyn, didn't i suggest the above command to you yesterday? It didn't work? [00:06] ign0ramus: was that you? no, it just left that file blank [00:06] Walzmyn, strange. I wonder if your settings will stick. [00:06] ign0ramus: i uninstalled gdm, re-installed, then used that command again - it seems to have worked this time [00:06] * Walzmyn shrugs [00:06] Walzmyn, yeah, well, gdm is necessary to reconfigure it ;) [00:09] I just created a bridge with a configuration in /etc/networking/interfaces. Now I changed the configuration, and I did service networking restart but tit says that br0 already is configured. How can I remove this bridge? [00:10] phoenixz, "man brctl" ? [00:14] ign0ramus: thanks! [00:14] phoenixz, you found what you needed? [00:18] ign0ramus: I think so.. just a weird thing, I deleted first the device from a bridge [00:18] ign0ramus: but then I wanted to delete the bridge [00:18] ign0ramus: and it gives me bridge br0 is still up, cant delete it.. [00:18] ign0ramus: how do I bring it down?? [00:18] just ifconfig again? [00:19] ifconfig down :) [00:19] phoenixz, you can try that... what did you use to create and enable the bridge? [00:20] ign0ramus: added configuration in /etc/networking/interfaces.. then service networking restart.. but yeah, I gottit, they're gone.. thanks! [00:20] phoenixz, glad to hear :) [00:22] ign your printscreen method has made alot of people happy ;) [00:24] Shadoze, you've been spreading the word? [00:25] Indeed a few of my kubuntu rl friends have noticed the screenie absence [00:25] Now all of them can screeny thanks to you :P [00:26] what's the print screen method? [00:26] Shadoze, nice. it's nothing special, but a little irritating. glad others like this solution :) [00:26] ign, take the lead :P [00:26] Yeah lol alot of them like to mass screenshot so it's handier than ksnapshot [00:27] Walzmyn, it's just a simple way to hit the PrtScrn button and it will place a .png of your screen on your Desktop, named in Unix seconds, so as not to overwrite any other screenshots [00:27] Walzmyn, the PrtScrn function in KDE 4 doesn't work OOB (at least not in my experience) [00:27] cool. What app are you using to do it? [00:27] Walzmyn, scrot (in the repos) [00:28] Walzmyn, i first tried with imagemagick, but it doesn't work well with Plasma :( [00:28] the one or two times i've need a screenshot, ksnapshot wasn't too hard to use, but i'll keep that in mind [00:28] Walzmyn, well, if you want, we can set you up... only takes a couple minutes [00:28] later: skyping with my mom [00:28] Walzmyn, family first :) [00:31] ign, do yo uknow the proper way to set the bootsplash up? [00:31] !usplash | Shadoze [00:31] Say, if i wanted a different image [00:31] Shadoze: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork [00:31] Damn, i did that last time [00:31] it came out as 8bit horrible mess lol [00:31] Shadoze, and that didn't work? [00:32] Shadoze, are you getting them off www.kde-look.org? [00:32] yeah i wanted this one: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kubuntu+Air+Usplash?content=105100 [00:34] Followed his instructions too [00:34] I "may have mistyped one thing" but is there an easy way to revert it to the default incase all goes wrong? [00:34] Shadoze, and what was the result? [00:34] Shadoze, just about anything is fixable in linux :) [00:34] *almost* [00:35] I know customisation of everything is a huge advantage, but is also a major trap for new people :S [00:36] Shadoze, so you were able to compile and install the theme(s)? [00:37] hello all [00:37] Yup, no problems there [00:37] I am new here [00:37] Welcome, acastilm [00:37] hi there, me too acastilm [00:38] It's the first time I login in a IRC channel [00:38] * shakes hand* [00:44] brb, rebooting [00:50] grr widgets they simply wont stay in place :S [00:54] Shadoze: lock them [00:55] They seem to be attracted to folder view [00:56] Regardless of where i put them, thell snap back to folder view, or underneath it [00:56] I dont have time to lock them as they move back so fast === ursula_ is now known as Ursinha [00:56] COuld it be compiz? [00:58] donn't know, don't use it [01:00] can someone help me with font rendering? some of my fonts are rendered in a wide way now [01:19] Shadoze, i tried that usplash, and it doesn't work well for me either... the only one that displays is meant for very low resolutions :( [01:20] Yup, same problem i got :( [01:20] Despite doing it correctly i think [01:21] Well, according to his instructions [01:21] Shadoze, the version that should work for my resolution ("big" ; 1280 x 800) only generates errors [01:22] Shadoze, if you issue: "more /etc/usplash.conf" , does it list your correct resolution? [01:25] yes :) [01:25] xres=1024 [01:25] yres=768 [01:25] Shadoze, and you did "make install" ? [01:26] I havn;t installed it yet ( last time was my ext3 kde) [01:26] Sec, ill do it right now [01:35] Finally it's downloaded [01:37] Right, gotta reboot a sec, brb [01:41] Nope, dosnt look too nice [01:41] And has a horrid blue bar at the bottom [01:41] Shadoze, you know you can test usplash without rebooting, right :) [01:41] Shadoze, yeah, i had that too [01:41] Any ideas how to get it to work? [01:41] No i didn't know you could do that :) [01:41] Shadoze, fix his code :) [01:42] Shadoze, "sudo usplash -c" will test your splash; "ctrl+alt+f7" will bring you back to your graphical environment ;) [01:44] Hmm cheers that worked :) And dang, any way to revert to the standard one for now? [01:44] Ill see if i can get his one working in the meantime too [01:44] Shadoze, "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" and then pick the default one (should be #1) [01:46] Thanks mate, your a star [01:46] Shadoze, well, that's one thing i've never been called before ;) [01:47] Shadoze, and now you know how to test it quickly to make sure its working, too :) === Cueball|2 is now known as Cueball === Cueball is now known as Cueball|2 [01:48] i have a problem where my keyboard will suddenly become insensitive, especially when playing WoW on wine, it still registers every key, it just requires me to hold the key down as hard as i can until i see it register, it also prevents multi-key commands such as ctrl-alt-backspace from working. what's wierder is that if i were to logout and immidietly back in, it will work fine again. as soon as i get to the login screen my [01:48] just as sensitive as always. anybody know where to look? (i'm thinking a feature in X that i'm activating unwittingly that is meant to prevent non-deliberate keystrokes (but is a bit too agressive i think) [01:48] hehe :P yeah im testing them now, just tweaking a few kde settings [01:49] raplh, has anyone mentioned it in winehq under the wow application? [01:49] *ralph even, sorry [01:50] ralph, using Jaunty? [01:50] i'm on 9.04 [01:50] and it persists even after i close wine [01:50] so i'm not sure that's the issue, but i guess it's not impossible [01:50] and no i haven't seen anything in winehq [01:51] ralph, does this occur if you do not launch wine? [01:52] ign0ramus: not yet, but i've been playing alot of WoW lately, also i might be hitting a certain combination of keys by accident that sets it off, but i haven't been able to reproduce it consistently [01:54] ralph, i don't know of any 'keyboard triggers' that would reduce sensitivity in a keyboard... i assume this is a desktop keyboard? [01:56] it's a laptop, i originally suspected hardware failure or overheating, but it fixes itself without having to be turned off, just logging out works [01:57] makes me think it's Xserver [01:59] ralph, feel free to post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you'd like, although i doubt it will show anything [01:59] ralph, do you have key repetitions enabled? [02:00] ign0ramus: know what i'll continue this tommorrow i need to go on a road trip now [02:02] know what i'll continue this tommorrow i need to go on a drinking binge now [02:29] hey man my sound doesn't work you guys suck get to workin === solid_li` is now known as solid_liq [02:38] Hi what is the suggested kubuntu way to browse for windows file shares? [02:40] I'm on Jaunty with a Tablet PC. When I do xinput --list --short I get my 3 devices (which are stylus, eraser, touch) but only the latter two are named. This is a big problem in Qt tablet apps because it needs the stylus to be named 'stylus' Any ideas? [02:40] doleyb I haven't tried it out, but i think you might be looking for samba. [02:40] !samba [02:40] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [02:40] though maybe there is an easier way ;) [02:41] well i was lookin for what kde prog is good for it [02:43] doleyb I don't know then. ;) samba is what I've seen as an advice here before. Don't know if there is a kde program [02:44] doleyb: yeah, open dolphin [02:44] click on network on the left [02:44] that should work if the network is configured correctly [02:44] If you know the computer ip/name [02:45] you can also do smb://ipOrHostname/share in any kde app (file open/save dialogs, dolphin, konqueror, etc..) [02:52] do you guys use any twitter app ? === Cueball|2 is now known as Cueball === Cueball is now known as Cueball|2 [03:11] Hi all can anyone help me switch to a fancier window switching effect? i get just the list right now but have no idea where to change it.... [03:12] Hello, [03:12] I am new to Kubuntu, and I am trying to install ATI Proprietary driver under "Hardware Drivers" but the app is hanging. [03:13] I cannot get the driver to activate [03:13] Can someone point me in the correct direction? [03:18] lindenle- play around with the stuff in System Settings -> Desktop [03:20] Dragnslcr: looks like things are set right but nothing is working [03:20] Make sure Enable Desktop Effects is checked in the General tab [03:21] It is [03:21] in fact it seemed to be working the first few seconds after logging in then went away at some point [03:22] Hm, maybe kwin ran into a problem [03:22] is there a log? [03:23] Probably in /var/log [03:25] lindenle- might check /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog [03:25] ok so i logged out and back in and it works....lets see when it stops.... [03:26] Yeah, that'll make checking the logs easier, since you can look for log files modified after now [03:26] yep [03:26] im tailing them [03:29] is there a bigmem kernel for kubuntu? I have 4GB === mike is now known as shortcut2mushroo === shortcut2mushroo is now known as shortcut2mushrom [03:34] Dragnslcr: maybe it happens when i suspend [03:37] Could be [03:37] I don't have a laptop, so I can't really test that [03:38] ok [03:38] also looks like the server image has big memory support [03:39] You could also go with the amd64 version [03:41] yeah [03:41] im worried about that [03:42] heard there were problems [03:43] plasma is taking up 74% of the cpu .... no good [03:45] lindenle, any zombie apps ? [03:49] BluesKaj: none that I can see === Cueball|2 is now known as Cueball [04:03] anyone know how to switch default python interpreter version? [04:13] ? when the update manager says you have 29 update....you open it. and it says 21 updates ..4 blockups...what does blocked mean [04:15] update manager says 29 updates...i opened it..it says 21 updates..4 blocked updates..what does it mean by blocked updates? [04:17] can anyone help with a gcc compiling error? [04:19] update manager says 29 updates...i opened it..it says 21 updates..4 blocked updates..what does it mean by blocked updates? [04:20] my problem has beensolved. [04:25] FloridaGuy: your blocked updates can't come in now, probably because they don't have matching new versions. [04:25] FloridaGuy: Normally you can just uninstall them, update, and reinstall later, and you'll have dependencies with slightly different names. [04:27] arg... now my audio has gone away [04:28] wtf is wrong with ubuntu [04:30] how do i stop pulseaudio from starting [05:17] is it me or does quassel suck? [05:20] Joe-: i never tried quassel, what's the suck from? [05:21] not a great ui and cant eisily join another server [05:21] easily* [05:24] Joe-: get xchat [05:24] already did [05:28] Oh why not konversation? [05:34] hijos === bond is now known as Guest4365 === Guest4365 is now known as bond_ === solid_li` is now known as solid_liq [06:23] man Jucato isn't around...whats up with that... [06:45] ÈçºÎ¼ÓÈëÒ»¸öÆµµÀ£¿ === niranjan is now known as ninja2203 === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === root is now known as Guest54718 === wharrgarbl___ is now known as AA === AA is now known as ii_vv [07:20] is there a grub configurator out there? [07:27] iivv: what do you want to do with the grub config? [07:28] well i recall a grub configure app in 8.10, and i liked the ability to set a default os from kubuntu and do other things without restarting [07:28] iivv: there are a few grub gui editors apt-cache search should help [07:28] Kgrubconfig iirc [07:29] the package is called kgrubeditor iivv [07:29] I think thats what you want [07:29] got it! thanks [07:30] night all... see y === anonimous_ is now known as yaa_ === slobodan is now known as Zlobas === grzegorz_donica is now known as GDRAGON [08:35] shadeslayer: you here? [08:44] After upgrading to Kubuntu 9.04, ny disk keeps spinning down, when I am not using it. Even when I'm on AC Power. This is very annoying and probably damaging my disk. How do I make it stop? [08:45] shadeslayer: no PM please... === mike is now known as contrast [08:50] Greets, everyone [08:52] hei l [08:53] Anyone here using DAAP? I'm getting nothing but errors from Tangerine and mt-daapd (aka Firefly). === ryanakca_ is now known as ryanakca-quassel === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 [09:13] Mamarok: ok,so i have reported a bug to launchpad.....im thinking of upgrading to alpha1 today [09:14] shadeslayer: do not do that, it will break and you might not be able to work with that machine for quite some time [09:15] if you decicde to do so regardless my warnings, then #ubuntu+1 is the channel to go to [09:15] Mamarok: i talked in #ubuntu+1 they said that hal is broken and will be fixed tommorow.....everything else is working [09:16] shadeslayer: still, it's not a good idea, you have enough problems with 4.3 [09:16] and 4.3 works here without a problem, so does Neon, if it doesn't for you, I bet Alpha 1 would be exactly the same problem [09:17] Mamarok: if you can help me get 4.3 working i wont upgrade [09:17] shadeslayer: I spend 2 days on that with you, something is wrong in your system, I don't know what, but the kbuildsycoca4 errors are not normal at all [09:18] Mamarok: so what do i do to get rid of those error? [09:18] so unless you know what's wrong and we can sort this out, Alpha1 will present you with exactly the same problem, rest assured [09:19] Mamarok: my system works fine under gnome...what could possibly could be the problem?? [09:19] shadeslayer: testing bleeding edge means you should be able to sort stuff out yourself, not spend 2 days of getting helped with [09:19] Mamarok: well if it were a bit easy..i could have done it my self [09:19] shadeslayer: well, remove all KDE and put it back in again and start over, but make sure you have *all* the necessary packages [09:20] Mamarok: so remove kubuntu-desktop and kde-nightly?? [09:20] shadeslayer: it's not about being easy or not, testing means you should be able to sort things out with little help, two days is big big help [09:21] Mamarok: ok ok ...unfortunately theres no bug report or a similar incidence to help me out either [09:21] shadeslayer: why did you leave #ubuntu-proxy-users ? [09:21] shadeslayer: kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, use synaptic to remove everything in the KDE section, you can leave Neon, that will not disturb anything, it's sandboxed [09:21] shadeslayer: it specifically said in the topic not to do so [09:21] ikonia: i thought i could leave once i join #kubuntu?? [09:21] no [09:22] thank you [09:22] ikonia: no problem [09:23] Mamarok: now i have both the neon repo and the beta 4.3 repo....which one do you have?? [09:24] shadeslayer: both [09:24] how do I get my ethernet connection up? the new plasma network manager doesn't seem to auto-connect [09:24] Mamarok: ok [09:24] naught102: sudo ifconfig ,device. up [09:24] naught102: sudo ifconfig up [09:24] shadeslayer: again, you need to know some basic KDE stuff to test, so go to techbase.kde.org and do some reading [09:25] Mamaok ok reading [09:25] shadeslayer: yeah, but then it doesn't detect the gateway [09:25] *Mamarok [09:25] naught102: ethernet should go up automatically, unless you have a static IP [09:25] I don't, and it doesn't [09:25] Riddell_: ping [09:25] Riddell_: ping [09:26] naught102: right click on the network manager widget and set your gateway manually [09:27] Mamarok: I want to know why it's not doing it manually. is it a known bug? [09:27] Mamarok: /join #paste [09:28] Mamarok: and anyway, where do I set the gateway manually? === paul_ is now known as paulboomboom [09:29] naught102: just told you: right click on the network manager widget, then Network Mnagement Settings [09:34] Mamarok: now?? [09:34] shadeslayer: as you can use the pastebin, use it, no need to use a query for that [09:34] support is here, remember? [09:34] Mamarok: ok i just thought that would be easier [09:34] shadeslayer: no, it isn't [09:34] ok im sorry [09:35] shadeslayer: ok, make your mind up: install KDE 4.3 and find your way around debugging it or stay with 4.2.3 [09:35] I simply can't spend all my time giving you a hand [09:35] 4.3 and debuging myself... [09:36] i just want it to work atleast once [09:36] you want bleeding edge then you should be savy enough to finde your way === yaa_ is now known as anonimous_ === anonimous_ is now known as yaa_ [09:36] ok [09:36] else, don't touch beta or even alpha software and first learn the basics [09:36] if any of you have an opinion on Konversation v. Quassel for Kubuntu 9.10's IRC client, please look at kubuntu-karmic-irc-client on gobby.ubuntu.com using Gobby (collaborative text editor) and see what pros/cons we've all mentioned. Add yours to the lists. Or tell me to raise the issue [09:37] shadeslayer: you can still ask for help, but I will not spend jours again on that with you [09:37] i understand [09:37] hours*, even if 'jours' was not totally wrong :) [09:38] shadeslayer: ok then, thx :) [09:38] :D [09:39] Mamarok: ok then..im on my own [09:40] shadeslayer: never totally, but check which are the basic packages required you have to install, that's what techbase,kde,org is for [09:40] s/,/. [09:40] ok [09:43] everything installed in neon ..... [09:44] ill try to get in :) [09:48] Anyone here using DAAP? I just got my shares to show up in Amarok, but I can't play them [09:49] contrast: you should ask in #amarok, that's very specific [09:49] hmm... thanks [09:50] contrast: yaw :) [09:52] hi [09:53] !hi | yaa_ [09:53] yaa_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor === Pconfig_ is now known as Pconfig [10:18] Hello, I'm on an Intel Core Duo 1.7 GHz laptop, and after I ran Kubuntu for the first time, it took 2 minutes for my system fan to go to maximum speed. Does the OS use that much CPU? [10:18] All the fancy graphics, I don't know. [10:18] Rojwan: it shouldn't - doesn't do that here on any of my machines (even my old p4 boxes) [10:18] I see [10:19] Rojwan: Kickoff Menu -> Applications -> System -> System Monitor [10:19] Rojwan: check what is eating your CPU with top [10:19] What is top? [10:19] sounds like something's zombieing out [10:19] Rojwan: a command-line system monitor [10:20] hi, anyone with KDE 4.3 beta 1 could see if you reproduce this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171916 thanks! [10:20] Okay [10:20] set any KDE app toolbar icons to size 32 or 48 and see if the size is unset at next start [10:20] cannot reproduce on vanilla KDE [10:20] annma: yep [10:20] contrast: you can reproduce? [10:20] annma: there's a workaround [10:21] contrast: tsss [10:21] annma: will test now [10:21] annma: i'm pretty sure that's a well documented bug [10:21] no no [10:21] is the config file rewritten then? [10:21] contrast: ^^ [10:21] and when? [10:21] contrast: I can NOT reproduce from vanilla KDE svn [10:22] post beta 1 though [10:22] i don't remember, exactly. i've been using the workaround so long i haven't looked into it recently, just briefly with every major update [10:22] what workaround? [10:22] ahh, so it's fixed in 4.3? [10:22] no [10:22] what workaround [10:22] "vanilla kde"? [10:22] what workaround [10:22] patience, grasshopper ;) [10:22] KDE source from KDE svn trunk [10:23] I don't use ubuntu KDE nor do I use Ubutu at all in fact [10:23] I fix KDE bugs contrast [10:23] leave the toolbar icon sizes at the default, then just set the icon sizes to what you want for each app. they're persistent that way [10:23] ? [10:23] annma: ahh, got cha. hats off to you then. :) [10:23] pleasre contrast [10:24] the bug report says that for an app the size is not kept [10:24] Mamarok: can you make sense of all of this then [10:24] contrast just confused me [10:24] interesting. last time i looked at the bug report, it suggested the "fix" i mentioned and that wfm [10:24] sorry [10:24] annma: should i try to rephrase? [10:24] you look at WHAT bug report??? [10:24] YEs [10:25] take the bug report [10:25] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171916 [10:25] start your ecplanation from that [10:25] explanation, take any KDE app if you don't want to take Okular as example [10:25] annma: you could have started with that :P [10:25] annma: can't reproduce it in KDE 4.3 beta here: [10:26] [11:19] hi, anyone with KDE 4.3 beta 1 could see if you reproduce this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171916 thanks! [10:26] contrast: I did [10:26] changed the icon size in toolbar, saved the settings, close and reopened Konqui again, settings still there [10:26] Mamarok: OK so the size is kept [10:26] OK [10:26] doh [10:26] because if not either the config file would have been rewritten or not read [10:26] sorry, it's late for me. [10:26] annma: it is here, unless somebody forgets to save the new setting, then it's not, obviously :) [10:27] the guy writes the config file [10:27] so either the config file is rewritten to 22 or not parsed [10:27] anyway thanska lot Mamarok [10:27] :) [10:28] ok, this isn't the same bug report i had read. the way you described it sounded like it though, my mistake, should've read the link first [10:28] annma: just added my comment to the bug [10:29] ah yes Mid Air collision!!!!!! [10:29] sorry for that :( [10:29] no problem! [10:29] Quick question: Is there a keyboard shortcut for 'Show Desktop'? [10:31] rojwan: you can set it jourself: systemsettings -> Keyboard&Mouse [10:31] rojwan: kind of - Ctrl+F12 [10:31] yourself* [10:31] * Mamarok needs a tea [10:31] oh cool, thanks [10:32] I have some Lipton Yellow Label tea, I'd make you some, you've earned it ;) [10:32] Mamarok: which KDE component would that be under in Global Keyboard Shortcuts? because i'm not seeing it under KWin or Plasma [10:33] does the apt packaging system have a 'delta' feature? [10:33] contrast: I guess so [10:34] contrast: should be in Kwin though, no? [10:34] one would think so [10:35] it's in the plasmoid settings itself [10:35] you have Show Dashboard in Plasma [10:35] annma: what plasmoid? show desktop button when you have your screen covered with windows [10:35] ahh, i figured that out right as you said it, annma [10:35] Mamarok: right [10:35] that's not the dashboard, he wants to see the actuall desktop [10:36] Mamarok: an applet lets you see the desktop [10:36] Mamarok: there are two different plasmoids, Show Desktop and Show Dashboard [10:36] you need to set the shortcut in the Show Desktop applet config [10:36] oh, theres one for that too? Great! [10:37] Yes, although once you've set the shortcut in the Show Desktop widget, the shortcut cease to work when the widget is closed [10:37] it seems that the shortcut key for most of the plasmoids does absolutely nothing though [10:37] I've searched in system settings, keyboard & mouse, but didn't find 'show desktop' [10:38] rojwan: add the Show Desktop plasmoid to your desktop or panel, right-click on it -> Settings [10:38] contrast: rojwan said taht when you remove the plasmoid then the shortcut ceases to work [10:38] which is true [10:38] yes [10:38] why don't you add it to the panel? [10:38] ahh, sorry. i should just shut up [10:39] Mamarok, i've tried that, and for some reason it wouldn't dock to the panel anymore [10:39]