[00:00] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, just ask dude
[00:00] <ahmos> hi, i wanna download mdict but i can't find it in repos.
[00:00] <Walzmyn> What's the content of your config file: /etc/X11/alright, I was goofing around with my desktop (trying to figure out what the heck activities are) and when i switched back to desktop from the appearance settings, all of the widgets were messed up, i can move them but a few seconds later they snap back. help?
[00:00] <Walzmyn> coreymon77 (n=coreymon@ubuntu/member/coreymon77) has joined #kubuntu
[00:00] <Walzmyn> whoa,
[00:00] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, come again?
[00:01] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: paste went screwy
[00:01] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, aha... what did you want to say?
[00:01] <Walzmyn> What's the content of your config file: /etc/X11/default-display-manager ?
[00:01] <Walzmyn> sorry, was tyring to make sure I spelled everything correctly :)
[00:01] <coreymon77> Walzmyn: huh?
[00:02] <Walzmyn> coreymon77: you refering to my real question or when this thing pasted in something from my pidgin conversation?
[00:02] <coreymon77> you pinged me
[00:02] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, /usr/bin/kdm
[00:03] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: ok. somehow i got it set to gdm, which is in /sbin - I was just making sure I got it back right
[00:03] <ign0ramus> coreymon77, he didn't mean to... he accidentally pasted something with your nick in it
[00:03] <Walzmyn> coreymon77: ok, i see what it did, it pasted what i had highlighted in here.
[00:03] <coreymon77> okay
[00:03] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: thank you
[00:03] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" allow you to reset normally?
[00:04] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: it had not been. but i just opened that file and it was correct, so i guess 9th time was the charm
[00:04] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, as long as you're set now :)
[00:04]  * Walzmyn nods
[00:05] <Walzmyn> all of this just to show a guy what gnome looks like. not sure it was worth it!
[00:05] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, didn't i suggest the above command to you yesterday?  It didn't work?
[00:06] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: was that you? no, it just left that file blank
[00:06] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, strange. I wonder if your settings will stick.
[00:06] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: i uninstalled gdm, re-installed, then used that command again - it seems to have worked this time
[00:06]  * Walzmyn shrugs
[00:06] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, yeah, well, gdm is necessary to reconfigure it ;)
[00:09] <phoenixz> I just created a bridge with a configuration in /etc/networking/interfaces. Now I changed the configuration, and I did service networking restart but tit says that br0 already is configured. How can I remove this bridge?
[00:10] <ign0ramus> phoenixz, "man brctl" ?
[00:14] <phoenixz> ign0ramus: thanks!
[00:14] <ign0ramus> phoenixz, you found what you needed?
[00:18] <phoenixz> ign0ramus: I think so.. just a weird thing, I deleted first the device from a bridge
[00:18] <phoenixz> ign0ramus: but then I wanted to delete the bridge
[00:18] <phoenixz> ign0ramus: and it gives me bridge br0 is still up, cant delete it..
[00:18] <phoenixz> ign0ramus: how do I bring it down??
[00:18] <phoenixz> just ifconfig again?
[00:19] <phoenixz> ifconfig down :)
[00:19] <ign0ramus> phoenixz, you can try that... what did you use to create and enable the bridge?
[00:20] <phoenixz> ign0ramus: added configuration in /etc/networking/interfaces.. then service networking restart.. but yeah, I gottit, they're gone.. thanks!
[00:20] <ign0ramus> phoenixz, glad to hear :)
[00:22] <Shadoze> ign your printscreen method has made alot of people happy ;)
[00:24] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, you've been spreading the word?
[00:25] <Shadoze> Indeed a few of my kubuntu rl friends have noticed the screenie absence
[00:25] <Shadoze> Now all of them can screeny thanks to you :P
[00:26] <Walzmyn> what's the print screen method?
[00:26] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, nice.  it's nothing special, but a little irritating.  glad others like this solution :)
[00:26] <Shadoze> ign, take the lead :P
[00:26] <Shadoze> Yeah lol alot of them like to mass screenshot so it's handier than ksnapshot
[00:27] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, it's just a simple way to hit the PrtScrn button and it will place a .png of your screen on your Desktop, named in Unix seconds, so as not to overwrite any other screenshots
[00:27] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, the PrtScrn function in KDE 4 doesn't work OOB (at least not in my experience)
[00:27] <Walzmyn> cool. What app are you using to do it?
[00:27] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, scrot (in the repos)
[00:28] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, i first tried with imagemagick, but it doesn't work well with Plasma :(
[00:28] <Walzmyn> the one or two times i've need a screenshot, ksnapshot wasn't too hard to use, but i'll keep that in mind
[00:28] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, well, if you want, we can set you up... only takes a couple minutes
[00:28] <Walzmyn> later: skyping with my mom
[00:28] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, family first :)
[00:31] <Shadoze> ign, do yo uknow the proper way to set the bootsplash up?
[00:31] <ign0ramus> !usplash | Shadoze
[00:31] <Shadoze> Say, if i wanted a different image
[00:31] <Shadoze> Damn, i did that last time
[00:31] <Shadoze> it came out as 8bit horrible mess lol
[00:31] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, and that didn't work?
[00:32] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, are you getting them off www.kde-look.org?
[00:32] <Shadoze> yeah i wanted this one: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kubuntu+Air+Usplash?content=105100
[00:34] <Shadoze> Followed his instructions too
[00:34] <Shadoze> I "may have mistyped one thing" but is there an easy way to revert it to the default incase all goes wrong?
[00:34] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, and what was the result?
[00:34] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, just about anything is fixable in linux :)
[00:34] <ign0ramus> *almost*
[00:35] <Shadoze> I know customisation of everything is a huge advantage, but is also a major trap for new people :S
[00:36] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, so you were able to compile and install the theme(s)?
[00:37] <acastilm> hello all
[00:37] <Shadoze> Yup, no problems there
[00:37] <acastilm> I am new here
[00:37] <Shadoze> Welcome, acastilm
[00:37] <ikram> hi there, me too acastilm
[00:38] <acastilm> It's the first time I login in a IRC channel
[00:38] <Shadoze> * shakes hand*
[00:44] <ign0ramus> brb, rebooting
[00:50] <Shadoze> grr widgets they simply wont stay in place :S
[00:54] <Walzmyn> Shadoze: lock them
[00:55] <Shadoze> They seem to be attracted to folder view
[00:56] <Shadoze> Regardless of where i put them, thell snap back to folder view, or underneath it
[00:56] <Shadoze> I dont have time to lock them as they move back so fast
[00:56] <Shadoze> COuld it be compiz?
[00:58] <Walzmyn> donn't know, don't use it
[01:00] <wharrgarrbl_> can someone help me with font rendering? some of my fonts are rendered in a wide way now
[01:19] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, i tried that usplash, and it doesn't work well for me either... the only one that displays is meant for very low resolutions :(
[01:20] <Shadoze> Yup, same problem i got :(
[01:20] <Shadoze> Despite doing it correctly i think
[01:21] <Shadoze> Well, according to his instructions
[01:21] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, the version that should work for my resolution ("big" ; 1280 x 800) only generates errors
[01:22] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, if you issue: "more /etc/usplash.conf" , does it list your correct resolution?
[01:25] <Shadoze> yes :)
[01:25] <Shadoze> xres=1024
[01:25] <Shadoze> yres=768
[01:25] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, and you did "make install" ?
[01:26] <Shadoze> I havn;t installed it yet ( last time was my ext3 kde)
[01:26] <Shadoze> Sec, ill do it right now
[01:35] <Shadoze> Finally it's downloaded
[01:37] <Shadoze> Right, gotta reboot a sec, brb
[01:41] <Shadoze> Nope, dosnt look too nice
[01:41] <Shadoze> And has a horrid blue bar at the bottom
[01:41] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, you know you can test usplash without rebooting, right :)
[01:41] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, yeah, i had that too
[01:41] <Shadoze> Any ideas how to get it to work?
[01:41] <Shadoze> No i didn't know you could do that :)
[01:41] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, fix his code :)
[01:42] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, "sudo usplash -c" will test your splash; "ctrl+alt+f7" will bring you back to your graphical environment ;)
[01:44] <Shadoze> Hmm cheers that worked :) And dang, any way to revert to the standard one for now?
[01:44] <Shadoze> Ill see if i can get his one working in the meantime too
[01:44] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" and then pick the default one (should be #1)
[01:46] <Shadoze> Thanks mate, your a star
[01:46] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, well, that's one thing i've never been called before ;)
[01:47] <ign0ramus> Shadoze, and now you know how to test it quickly to make sure its working, too :)
[01:48] <ralph> i have a problem where my keyboard will suddenly become insensitive, especially when playing WoW on wine, it still registers every key, it just requires me to hold the key down as hard as i can until i see it register, it also prevents multi-key commands such as ctrl-alt-backspace from working. what's wierder is that if i were to logout and immidietly back in, it will work fine again. as soon as i get to the login screen my 
[01:48] <ralph>  just as sensitive as always. anybody know where to look? (i'm thinking a feature in X that i'm activating unwittingly that is meant to prevent non-deliberate keystrokes (but is a bit too agressive i think)
[01:48] <Shadoze> hehe :P yeah im testing them now, just tweaking a few kde settings
[01:49] <Shadoze> raplh, has anyone mentioned it in winehq under the wow application?
[01:49] <Shadoze> *ralph even, sorry
[01:50] <ign0ramus> ralph, using Jaunty?
[01:50] <ralph> i'm on 9.04
[01:50] <ralph> and it persists even after i close wine
[01:50] <ralph> so i'm not sure that's the issue, but i guess it's not impossible
[01:50] <ralph> and no i haven't seen anything in winehq
[01:51] <ign0ramus> ralph, does this occur if you do not launch wine?
[01:52] <ralph> ign0ramus: not yet, but i've been playing alot of WoW lately, also i might be hitting a certain combination of keys by accident that sets it off, but i haven't been able to reproduce it consistently
[01:54] <ign0ramus> ralph, i don't know of any 'keyboard triggers' that would reduce sensitivity in a keyboard...  i assume this is a desktop keyboard?
[01:56] <ralph> it's a laptop, i originally suspected hardware failure or overheating, but it fixes itself without having to be turned off, just logging out works
[01:57] <ralph> makes me think it's Xserver
[01:59] <ign0ramus> ralph, feel free to post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you'd like, although i doubt it will show anything
[01:59] <ign0ramus> ralph, do you have key repetitions enabled?
[02:00] <ralph> ign0ramus: know what i'll continue this tommorrow i need to go on a road trip now
[02:02] <ign0ramus>  know what i'll continue this tommorrow i need to go on a drinking binge now
[02:29] <br4n> hey man my sound doesn't work you guys suck get to workin
[02:38] <doleyb> Hi what is the suggested kubuntu way to browse for windows file shares?
[02:40] <astromme> I'm on Jaunty with a Tablet PC. When I do xinput --list --short I get my 3 devices (which are stylus, eraser, touch) but only the latter two are named. This is a big problem in Qt tablet apps because it needs the stylus to be named 'stylus' Any ideas?
[02:40] <kaddi> doleyb I haven't tried it out, but i think you might be looking for samba.
[02:40] <kaddi> !samba
[02:40] <kaddi> though maybe there is an easier way ;)
[02:41] <doleyb> well i was lookin for what kde prog is good for it
[02:43] <kaddi> doleyb I don't know then. ;) samba is what I've seen as an advice here before. Don't know if there is a kde program
[02:44] <astromme> doleyb: yeah, open dolphin
[02:44] <astromme> click on network on the left
[02:44] <astromme> that should work if the network is configured correctly
[02:44] <astromme> If you know the computer ip/name
[02:45] <astromme> you can also do smb://ipOrHostname/share in any kde app (file open/save dialogs, dolphin, konqueror, etc..)
[02:52] <afeijo> do you guys use any twitter app ?
[03:11] <lindenle> Hi all can anyone help me switch to a fancier window switching effect? i get just the list right now but have no idea where to change it....
[03:12] <ssmith> Hello,
[03:12] <ssmith> I am new to Kubuntu, and I am trying to install ATI Proprietary driver under "Hardware Drivers" but the app is hanging.
[03:13] <ssmith> I cannot get the driver to activate
[03:13] <ssmith> Can someone point me in the correct direction?
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> lindenle- play around with the stuff in System Settings -> Desktop
[03:20] <lindenle> Dragnslcr: looks like things are set right but nothing is working
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> Make sure Enable Desktop Effects is checked in the General tab
[03:21] <lindenle> It is
[03:21] <lindenle> in fact it seemed to be working the first few seconds after logging in then went away at some point
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> Hm, maybe kwin ran into a problem
[03:22] <lindenle> is there a log?
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> Probably in /var/log
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> lindenle- might check /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog
[03:25] <lindenle> ok so i logged out and back in and it works....lets see when it stops....
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, that'll make checking the logs easier, since you can look for log files modified after now
[03:26] <lindenle> yep
[03:26] <lindenle> im tailing them
[03:29] <lindenle> is there a bigmem kernel for kubuntu? I have 4GB
[03:34] <lindenle> Dragnslcr: maybe it happens when i suspend
[03:37] <Dragnslcr> Could be
[03:37] <Dragnslcr> I don't have a laptop, so I can't really test that
[03:38] <lindenle> ok
[03:38] <lindenle> also looks like the server image has big memory support
[03:39] <Dragnslcr> You could also go with the amd64 version
[03:41] <lindenle> yeah
[03:41] <lindenle> im worried about that
[03:42] <lindenle> heard there were problems
[03:43] <lindenle> plasma is taking up 74% of the cpu .... no good
[03:45] <BluesKaj> lindenle, any zombie apps ?
[03:49] <lindenle> BluesKaj: none that I can see
[04:03] <peaches> anyone know how to switch default python interpreter version?
[04:13] <mike> ? when the update manager says you have 29 update....you open it. and it says 21 updates ..4 blockups...what does blocked mean
[04:15] <FloridaGuy> update manager says 29 updates...i opened it..it says 21 updates..4 blocked updates..what does it mean by blocked updates?
[04:17] <wharrgarbl___> can anyone help with a gcc compiling error?
[04:19] <FloridaGuy>  update manager says 29 updates...i opened it..it says 21 updates..4 blocked updates..what does it mean by blocked updates?
[04:20] <wharrgarbl___> my problem has beensolved.
[04:25] <doleyb> FloridaGuy: your blocked updates can't come in now, probably because they don't have matching new versions.
[04:25] <doleyb> FloridaGuy: Normally you can just uninstall them, update, and reinstall later, and you'll have dependencies with slightly different names.
[04:27] <lindenle> arg... now my audio has gone away
[04:28] <lindenle> wtf is wrong with ubuntu
[04:30] <lindenle> how do i stop pulseaudio from starting
[05:17] <Joe-> is it me or does quassel suck?
[05:20] <doleyb> Joe-: i never tried quassel, what's the suck from?
[05:21] <Joe-> not a great ui and cant eisily join another server
[05:21] <Joe-> easily*
[05:24] <desu> Joe-: get xchat
[05:24] <Joe-> already did
[05:28] <doleyb> Oh why not konversation?
[05:34] <heberth> hijos
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> man Jucato isn't around...whats up with that...
[06:45] <guodejun> ÈçºÎ¼ÓÈëÒ»¸öÆµµÀ£¿
[07:20] <ii_vv> is there a grub configurator out there?
[07:27] <Admiral_Chicago> iivv: what do you want to do with the grub config?
[07:28] <iivv> well i recall a grub configure app in 8.10, and i liked the ability to set a default os from kubuntu and do other things without restarting
[07:28] <Admiral_Chicago> iivv: there are a few grub gui editors apt-cache search <string> should help
[07:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Kgrubconfig iirc
[07:29] <Admiral_Chicago> the package is called kgrubeditor iivv
[07:29] <Admiral_Chicago> I think thats what you want
[07:29] <iivv> got it! thanks
[07:30] <Admiral_Chicago> night all... see y
[08:35] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: you here?
[08:44] <tdn> After upgrading to Kubuntu 9.04, ny disk keeps spinning down, when I am not using it. Even when I'm on AC Power. This is very annoying and probably damaging my disk. How do I make it stop?
[08:45] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: no PM please...
[08:50] <contrast> Greets, everyone
[08:52] <yaa_> hei l
[08:53] <contrast> Anyone here using DAAP? I'm getting nothing but errors from Tangerine and mt-daapd (aka Firefly).
[09:13] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ok,so i have reported a bug to launchpad.....im thinking of upgrading to alpha1 today
[09:14] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: do not do that, it will break and you might not be able to work with that machine for quite some time
[09:15] <Mamarok> if you decicde to do so regardless my warnings, then #ubuntu+1 is the channel to go to
[09:15] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i talked in #ubuntu+1 they said that hal is broken and will be fixed tommorow.....everything else is working
[09:16] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: still, it's not a good idea, you have enough problems with 4.3
[09:16] <Mamarok> and 4.3 works here without a problem, so does Neon, if it doesn't for you, I bet Alpha 1 would be exactly the same problem
[09:17] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: if you can help me get 4.3 working i wont upgrade
[09:17] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: I spend 2 days on that with you, something is wrong in your system, I don't know what, but the kbuildsycoca4 errors are not normal at all
[09:18] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: so what do i do to get rid of those error?
[09:18] <Mamarok> so unless you know what's wrong and we can sort this out, Alpha1 will present you with exactly the same problem, rest assured
[09:19] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: my system works fine under gnome...what could possibly could be the problem??
[09:19] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: testing bleeding edge means you should be able to sort stuff out yourself, not spend 2 days of getting helped with
[09:19] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: well if it were a bit easy..i could have done it my self
[09:19] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: well, remove all KDE and put it back in again and start over, but make sure you have *all* the necessary packages
[09:20] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: so remove kubuntu-desktop and kde-nightly??
[09:20] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: it's not about being easy or not, testing means you should be able to sort things out with little help, two days is big big help
[09:21] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ok ok ...unfortunately theres no bug report or a similar incidence to help me out either
[09:21] <ikonia> shadeslayer: why did you leave #ubuntu-proxy-users ?
[09:21] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, use synaptic to remove everything in the KDE section, you can leave Neon, that will not disturb anything, it's sandboxed
[09:21] <ikonia> shadeslayer: it specifically said in the topic not to do so
[09:21] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i thought i could leave once i join #kubuntu??
[09:21] <ikonia> no
[09:22] <ikonia> thank you
[09:22] <shadeslayer> ikonia: no problem
[09:23] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: now i have both the neon repo and the beta 4.3  repo....which one do you have??
[09:24] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: both
[09:24] <naught102> how do I get my ethernet connection up? the new plasma network manager doesn't seem to auto-connect
[09:24] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ok
[09:24] <shadeslayer> naught102: sudo ifconfig ,device. up
[09:24] <shadeslayer> naught102: sudo ifconfig <device> up
[09:24] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: again, you need to know some basic KDE stuff to test, so go to techbase.kde.org and do some reading
[09:25] <shadeslayer> Mamaok ok reading
[09:25] <naught102> shadeslayer: yeah, but then it doesn't detect the gateway
[09:25] <shadeslayer> *Mamarok
[09:25] <Mamarok> naught102: ethernet should go up automatically, unless you have a static IP
[09:25] <naught102> I don't, and it doesn't
[09:25] <Riddell> Riddell_: ping
[09:25] <Riddell> Riddell_: ping
[09:26] <Mamarok> naught102: right click on the network manager widget and set your gateway manually
[09:27] <naught102> Mamarok: I want to know why it's not doing it manually. is it a known bug?
[09:27] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: /join #paste
[09:28] <naught102> Mamarok: and anyway, where do I set the gateway manually?
[09:29] <Mamarok> naught102: just told you: right click on the network manager widget, then Network Mnagement Settings
[09:34] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: now??
[09:34] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: as you can use the pastebin, use it, no need to use a query for that
[09:34] <Mamarok> support is here, remember?
[09:34] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ok i just thought that would be easier
[09:34] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: no, it isn't
[09:34] <shadeslayer> ok im sorry
[09:35] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: ok, make your mind up: install KDE 4.3 and find your way around debugging it or stay with 4.2.3
[09:35] <Mamarok> I simply can't spend all my time giving you a hand
[09:35] <shadeslayer> 4.3 and debuging myself...
[09:36] <shadeslayer> i just want it to work atleast once
[09:36] <Mamarok> you want bleeding edge then you should be savy enough to finde your way
[09:36] <shadeslayer> ok
[09:36] <Mamarok> else, don't touch beta or even alpha software and first learn the basics
[09:36] <maco> if any of you have an opinion on Konversation v. Quassel for Kubuntu 9.10's IRC client, please look at kubuntu-karmic-irc-client on gobby.ubuntu.com using Gobby (collaborative text editor) and see what pros/cons we've all mentioned. Add yours to the lists. Or tell me to raise the issue
[09:37] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: you can still ask for help, but I will not spend jours again on that with you
[09:37] <shadeslayer> i understand
[09:37] <Mamarok> hours*, even if 'jours' was not totally wrong :)
[09:38] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: ok then, thx :)
[09:38] <shadeslayer> :D
[09:39] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ok then..im on my own
[09:40] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: never totally, but check which are the basic packages required you have to install, that's what techbase,kde,org is for
[09:40] <Mamarok> s/,/.
[09:40] <shadeslayer> ok
[09:43] <shadeslayer> everything installed in neon .....
[09:44] <shadeslayer> ill try to get in :)
[09:48] <contrast> Anyone here using DAAP? I just got my shares to show up in Amarok, but I can't play them
[09:49] <Mamarok> contrast: you should ask in #amarok, that's very specific
[09:49] <contrast> hmm... thanks
[09:50] <Mamarok> contrast: yaw :)
[09:52] <yaa_> hi
[09:53] <contrast> !hi | yaa_
[10:18] <Rojwan> Hello, I'm on an Intel Core Duo 1.7 GHz laptop, and after I ran Kubuntu for the first time, it took 2 minutes for my system fan to go to maximum speed. Does the OS use that much CPU?
[10:18] <Rojwan> All the fancy graphics, I don't know.
[10:18] <contrast> Rojwan: it shouldn't - doesn't do that here on any of my machines (even my old p4 boxes)
[10:18] <Rojwan> I see
[10:19] <contrast> Rojwan: Kickoff Menu -> Applications -> System -> System Monitor
[10:19] <Mamarok> Rojwan: check what is eating your CPU with top
[10:19] <Rojwan> What is top?
[10:19] <contrast> sounds like something's zombieing out
[10:19] <contrast> Rojwan: a command-line system monitor
[10:20] <annma> hi, anyone with KDE 4.3 beta 1 could see if you reproduce this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171916 thanks!
[10:20] <Rojwan> Okay
[10:20] <annma> set any KDE app toolbar icons to size 32 or 48 and see if the size is unset at next start
[10:20] <annma> cannot reproduce on vanilla KDE
[10:20] <contrast> annma: yep
[10:20] <annma> contrast: you can reproduce?
[10:20] <contrast> annma: there's a workaround
[10:21] <annma> contrast: tsss
[10:21] <Mamarok> annma: will test now
[10:21] <contrast> annma: i'm pretty sure that's a well documented bug
[10:21] <annma> no no
[10:21] <annma> is the config file rewritten then?
[10:21] <annma> contrast: ^^
[10:21] <annma> and when?
[10:21] <annma> contrast: I can NOT reproduce from vanilla KDE svn
[10:22] <annma> post beta 1 though
[10:22] <contrast> i don't remember, exactly. i've been using the workaround so long i haven't looked into it recently, just briefly with every major update
[10:22] <annma> what workaround?
[10:22] <contrast> ahh, so it's fixed in 4.3?
[10:22] <annma> no
[10:22] <annma> what workaround
[10:22] <contrast> "vanilla kde"?
[10:22] <annma> what workaround
[10:22] <contrast> patience, grasshopper ;)
[10:22] <annma> KDE source from KDE svn trunk
[10:23] <annma> I don't use ubuntu KDE nor do I use Ubutu at all in fact
[10:23] <annma> I fix KDE bugs contrast
[10:23] <contrast> leave the toolbar icon sizes at the default, then just set the icon sizes to what you want for each app. they're persistent that way
[10:23] <annma> ?
[10:23] <contrast> annma: ahh, got cha. hats off to you then. :)
[10:23] <annma> pleasre contrast
[10:24] <annma> the bug report says that for an app the size is not kept
[10:24] <annma> Mamarok: can you make sense of all of this then
[10:24] <annma> contrast just confused me
[10:24] <contrast> interesting. last time i looked at the bug report, it suggested the "fix" i mentioned and that wfm
[10:24] <contrast> sorry
[10:24] <contrast> annma: should i try to rephrase?
[10:24] <annma> you look at WHAT bug report???
[10:24] <annma> YEs
[10:25] <annma> take the bug report
[10:25] <annma> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171916
[10:25] <annma> start your ecplanation from that
[10:25] <annma> explanation, take any KDE app if you don't want to take Okular as example
[10:25] <contrast> annma: you could have started with that :P
[10:25] <Mamarok> annma: can't reproduce it in KDE 4.3 beta here:
[10:26] <annma> [11:19] <annma> hi, anyone with KDE 4.3 beta 1 could see if you reproduce this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171916 thanks!
[10:26] <annma> contrast: I did
[10:26] <Mamarok> changed the icon size in toolbar, saved the settings, close and reopened Konqui again, settings still there
[10:26] <annma> Mamarok: OK so the size is kept
[10:26] <annma> OK
[10:26] <contrast> doh
[10:26] <annma> because if not either the config file would have been rewritten or not read
[10:26] <contrast> sorry, it's late for me.
[10:26] <Mamarok> annma: it is here, unless somebody forgets to save the new setting, then it's not, obviously :)
[10:27] <annma> the guy writes the config file
[10:27] <annma> so either the config file is rewritten to 22 or not parsed
[10:27] <annma> anyway thanska lot Mamarok
[10:27] <annma> :)
[10:28] <contrast> ok, this isn't the same bug report i had read. the way you described it sounded like it though, my mistake, should've read the link first
[10:28] <Mamarok> annma: just added my comment to the bug
[10:29] <annma> ah yes Mid Air collision!!!!!!
[10:29] <Mamarok> sorry for that :(
[10:29] <annma> no problem!
[10:29] <rojwan> Quick question: Is there a keyboard shortcut for 'Show Desktop'?
[10:31] <Mamarok> rojwan: you can set it jourself: systemsettings -> Keyboard&Mouse
[10:31] <contrast> rojwan: kind of - Ctrl+F12
[10:31] <Mamarok> yourself*
[10:31]  * Mamarok needs a tea
[10:31] <rojwan> oh cool, thanks
[10:32] <rojwan> I have some Lipton Yellow Label tea, I'd make you some, you've earned it ;)
[10:32] <contrast> Mamarok: which KDE component would that be under in Global Keyboard Shortcuts? because i'm not seeing it under KWin or Plasma
[10:33] <yao_ziyuan> does the apt packaging system have a 'delta' feature?
[10:33] <Mamarok> contrast: I guess so
[10:34] <Mamarok> contrast: should be in Kwin though, no?
[10:34] <contrast> one would think so
[10:35] <annma> it's in the plasmoid settings itself
[10:35] <annma> you have Show Dashboard in Plasma
[10:35] <Mamarok> annma: what plasmoid? show desktop button when you have your screen covered with windows
[10:35] <contrast> ahh, i figured that out right as you said it, annma
[10:35] <contrast> Mamarok: right
[10:35] <Mamarok> that's not the dashboard, he wants to see the actuall desktop
[10:36] <annma> Mamarok: an applet lets you see the desktop
[10:36] <contrast> Mamarok: there are two different plasmoids, Show Desktop and Show Dashboard
[10:36] <annma> you need to set the shortcut in the Show Desktop applet config
[10:36] <Mamarok> oh, theres one for that too? Great!
[10:37] <rojwan> Yes, although once you've set the shortcut in the Show Desktop widget, the shortcut cease to work when the widget is closed
[10:37] <contrast> it seems that the shortcut key for most of the plasmoids does absolutely nothing though
[10:37] <rojwan> I've searched in system settings, keyboard & mouse, but didn't find 'show desktop'
[10:38] <contrast> rojwan: add the Show Desktop plasmoid to your desktop or panel, right-click on it -> Settings
[10:38] <annma> contrast: rojwan said taht when you remove the plasmoid then the shortcut ceases to work
[10:38] <annma> which is true
[10:38] <rojwan> yes
[10:38] <Mamarok> why don't you add it to the panel?
[10:38] <contrast> ahh, sorry. i should just shut up
[10:39] <rojwan> Mamarok, i've tried that, and for some reason it wouldn't dock to the panel anymore
[10:39] <rojwan> i must be forgetting something
[10:39] <annma> rojwan would like the shortcut defined as default like "Show Dashboard"
[10:39] <Mamarok> rojwan: what KDE version do you have?
[10:39] <annma> sometimes docking in the panel is dodgy
[10:39] <rojwan> the latest version, i downloaded it two days ago
[10:40] <annma> ensure you did not lock the widgets
[10:40] <rojwan> okay, unlocking and retrying
[10:40] <contrast> i'm off. peace out
[10:40] <Mamarok> rojwan: I added the widget to the Pnael, the added the shortcut Meta+x and it works
[10:40] <annma> having a preset global shortcut would be nice probably
[10:40] <Mamarok> toggles desktop view
[10:40] <rojwan> I see
[10:40] <Mamarok> Panel* even
[10:41] <rojwan> it used to work just yesterday, but now when i drag a plasmoid over the panel and drop, it stays above
[10:41] <rojwan> widgets are unlocked
[10:41] <Mamarok> rojwan: edit the panel and add the widget there
[10:41] <annma> rojwan: I have trunk and it works
[10:41] <Mamarok> works here in KDE 4.3 beta
[10:42] <annma> maybe something went wrong for you in config, mine is nearly defaults settings
[10:42] <rojwan> i edit the panel by clicking the yellow thing all the way to the right?
[10:43] <annma> yes
[10:43] <annma> then Add Widgets
[10:45] <rojwan> aha! it worked, thanks annma!
[10:45] <rojwan> i wasn't dragging to the right place
[10:50] <rojwan> How do I give a second row to the panel? In WinXP it's by raising the panel height, a second row appears. Here it just seems to stretch...
[10:51] <annma> task manager sets 2 rows
[10:51] <annma> ugly htough
[10:51] <eeos> hi everybody!
[10:52] <annma> and systray as well but duplicates KMix icon
[10:52] <eeos> do you know how to synchronise the kontact kalendar across many different desktops (eventually using a centralised server)?
[10:52] <rojwan> oh okay, i'll try that
[10:53] <annma> going to lunch, bye all
[10:55] <Tm_T> oh, annma was here <3
[11:13] <eeos> anyone who knows how to synchronise the calendar across several kubuntu installations, eventually using a server?
[11:18] <ToreadorVampire> Hey all - I think I have a bit more information about my clipboard-related problem (that has been driving me mad) ... using Kubuntu Jaunty/KDE 4.2.2 my selection keeps getting hijacked and copied to the clipboard if I pause for a moment ...
[11:18] <ToreadorVampire> Actually, the full problem description is a bit long ... lemme pastebin it
[11:19] <aFRICKENamerican> what a dumb thing
[11:19] <aFRICKENamerican> i run the spell checker.
[11:19] <aFRICKENamerican> it says spell check complete.
[11:19] <aFRICKENamerican> it's not
[11:19] <aFRICKENamerican> there's still red markings
[11:19] <aFRICKENamerican> what a dumb thing
[11:20] <aFRICKENamerican> failure.
[11:20] <aFRICKENamerican> damn thing sucks.
[11:20] <vistakiller> when you use to language it fails
[11:21] <aFRICKENamerican> huh?
[11:21] <aFRICKENamerican> there's red all over it. obvious miss spellings.
[11:21] <aFRICKENamerican> yet the spell check is too dumb to catch it.
[11:21]  * aFRICKENamerican needs to get xp back on here right away.
[11:22] <vistakiller> in which programme?
[11:23] <aFRICKENamerican> writer
[11:23] <aFRICKENamerican> no wander its free
[11:24] <aFRICKENamerican> damn thing sucks.
[11:24] <ToreadorVampire> OOo Writer Spellcheck works just fine for me
[11:24] <vistakiller> and for me
[11:24] <ToreadorVampire> aFRICKENamerican> Did you change the language?  You can check which language "Writer thinks your document is written in"
[11:25] <ToreadorVampire> Also, settings could be set such that writer ignores a load of stuff?
[11:25] <ToreadorVampire> (note - these are all settings that could be made on Microsoft Office too, so you could create the same configuration issue on a Windows-based machine just as easily)
[11:30] <aFRICKENamerican> ToreadorVampire: why isnt' American the default language
[11:30] <aFRICKENamerican> American is the dominant language. therefore should be the default
[11:30] <aFRICKENamerican> how do you set the language.
[11:31] <ToreadorVampire> aFRICKENamerican> Lemme check ...
[11:31] <skroon> Hi. What is the default sound server for kubuntu jaunty.  I'm having trouble getting amarok, firefox, vlc and skype to play together
[11:32] <aFRICKENamerican> it's already set to English
[11:32] <aFRICKENamerican> damn thing sucks
[11:32] <aFRICKENamerican> linux crap blows.
[11:32] <bazhang> aFRICKENamerican, watch the language
[11:33] <ToreadorVampire> aFRICKENamerican> So - in OOo Writer you can click Tools » Language » For All Text » English (US) and verify that's ticked?
[11:33] <ToreadorVampire> Then re-try the spellcheck?
[11:35] <ToreadorVampire> Also ... if your question is about Open Office.org writer, try asking in the #openoffice.org channel ... because openoffice.org writer is quite a complicated beast, and the guys+gals in that channel will know more about it than the people here
[11:36] <aFRICKENamerican> linux sucks
[11:36] <ToreadorVampire> Hmm - trying to test a theory ... can anyone suggest "a GTK based application" that I can load up and test a text-selection/clipboard problem with?
[11:36] <ToreadorVampire> I have tried it with xchat and monodevelop ... but I'd like a couple more to confirm my suspicions
[11:37] <Eismann> firefox?
[11:38] <Eismann> gimp
[11:38] <ToreadorVampire> Yeah, I tried it with FF and couldn't reproduce the problem ... but just remembered pidgin which I have installed and managed to reproduce it
[11:38] <bazhang> gimp certainly
[11:38] <ubuntu> hello
[11:38] <ubuntu> Do you speaking polish .??
[11:39] <ubuntu> bu I not very good speaking english ; d
[11:39] <bazhang> !pl
[11:39] <ToreadorVampire> bazhang beat me to it ;)
[11:39] <ubuntu> They have a kubuntu .? ;d
[11:39] <moreno> hi
[11:39] <ToreadorVampire> bazhang> Mmm, this is related to text selection, so GIMP won't be too useful
[11:39] <ubuntu> How do I install a program .????? I downloaded the Firefox on my Kubuntu, and I have it only since yesterday I do not know how to install it. Please help;)
[11:39] <bazhang> ubuntu, both are handled there afaik
[11:39] <bazhang> ubuntu, downloaded from where
[11:40] <bazhang> ToreadorVampire, gedit?
[11:41] <Eismann> ubuntu: use kpackagekit
[11:41] <ToreadorVampire> ubuntu> (sorry, I don't speak Polish):  Click the K Menu » Computer » System Settings and then click "Add and Remove Software" from there ...
[11:42] <ToreadorVampire> ubuntu> In Kubuntu (and Ubuntu too) you usually don't need to download software from the website ... use the Add and Remove Software tool (the same as "kpackagekit") - it downloads and installs for you
[11:42] <ToreadorVampire> bazhang> Ah, good idea!  I always use kate so I forget gedit
[11:48] <ToreadorVampire> bazhang> Thanks - have managed to duplicate the problem on gedit too
[11:48] <bazhang> ToreadorVampire, nice work
[11:49] <ToreadorVampire> That's enough to confirm (to me at least) "it only affects GTK applications"
[12:00] <skroon> how can I tell amarok2 to use pulseaudio (or ALSA)?
[12:05] <ToreadorVampire> Hey all - here is my full problem description along with how I can reproduce it:  http://pastebin.com/f7945d845
[12:06] <ToreadorVampire> In short: "Selecting text gets hijacked by some kind of clipboard action and 'what I select' gets copied to the clipboard and the selection cleared." - IE:  Text is being copied to the clipboard when I don't want it to be - only seems to be affecting GTK-based apps
[12:07] <Pconfig> ToreadorVampire, you might want to post this one on launchpad
[12:09] <ToreadorVampire> Pconfig> Yeah?  I had mainly asked here first in case it's a fairly easy fix (and just something I don't understand) - I don't usually post bugreports until I have eliminated the "I'm an idiot" factor :)
[12:10] <Pconfig> ToreadorVampire: i never heard of it before but it sounds like some kind of bug imo
[12:31] <kanon-mat> hello! can i set a keyboard shortcut to hide/show the panel?
[13:11] <kanon-mat> id like the "digital clock" in 24h / day
[13:13] <kanon-mat> can i rename files in konqueror without that annoying popup? i want to do it in place
[13:14] <Shadoze> I thought the digital clock was 24h by default?
[13:15] <Shadoze> Mine certainly is
[13:15] <ToreadorVampire> Mine too, and I don't remember changing the settings
[13:16] <kanon-mat> i updated kubuntu from hardy, maybe thats why
[13:16] <kanon-mat> but i had it in 24 h format there also
[13:17] <ToreadorVampire> I assume that the plasmoid clock uses "Regional settings" to determine whether to use 24h or am/pm ?
[13:17] <kanon-mat> it appears the clock doesnt use the setting i have in "date"
[13:17] <Shadoze> Looking at it's settings there no obvious revert to 12h or 24h format
[13:17] <gorgonizer> kanon-mat: to rename in-line in Konqueror, go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Management -> General, there is a checkbox for this option..
[13:19] <kanon-mat> i have set timezone to stockholm, maybe kde needs a restart?
[13:21] <kanon-mat> i cannot find an option for changing to in-line renaming
[13:21] <kanon-mat> konqueror 4.2.2
[13:36] <tdn> After upgrading to Kubuntu 9.04, ny disk keeps spinning down, when I am not using it. Even when I'm on AC Power. This is very annoying and probably damaging my disk. How do I make it stop?
[13:38] <kanon-mat> laptop?
[13:39] <kanon-mat> maybe there is a hdparm setting for that
[13:41] <kanon-mat> there are conf files in /etc/laptop-mode/ im not sure what they all do
[13:47] <kou> hello all
[13:47] <kou> is there anyone here using xinerama ?
[13:50] <jussi01> kou: Iam, whats the issue?
[13:50] <kou> hey there
[13:50] <kou> i have been trying to get it working for some time now.
[13:51] <kou> i m on 9.04 64 bit
[13:51] <jussi01> gfx card?
[13:51] <kou> with an ati vga
[13:51] <kou> gfx is ?
[13:51] <kou> my vga is quite good.
[13:51] <jussi01> hrr
[13:52] <kou> :)
[13:52] <kou> i never got what gfx is:)
[13:53] <kou> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7354337#post7354337 check this out
[13:53] <jussi01> wait, Im using twinview, not xinerama. sorry
[13:53] <kou> i cant use that with ati can i ?
[13:54] <kou> you got nvidia ?
[13:57] <kou> no one is using xinerama ? :(
[14:00] <sistemas> hola
[14:00] <kou> hi
[14:12] <SiVA_> I'm having this really strange network issue
[14:13] <SiVA_> when I go to certain sites with firefox on my kubuntu laptop, it just hangs there for about 30 seconds to 1 minute before it loads
[14:13] <SiVA_> but when I go to the same site on my XP laptop, it works just fine... both are on my home network
[14:15] <SiVA_> I'd tell you my version of Kubuntu but I don't know how.. what other information can I tell you about my setup to help debug this? It's really eating into my time each day waiting for sites to load
[14:40] <canen_> thunderbird 3 has a really nice feature where you can archive an email and it is automatically placed in a foler called Archives/<year>. This makes it pretty easy to browse your archived emails based on year, obviously. Anyone know if this is possible with KMail?
[14:48] <Mouka> Hi all
[14:49]  * genii makes more coffee
[14:49] <Mouka> How do I configure kubuntu to use Ogre 3d?
[14:49] <Mouka> I have installed ogre 3d using synaptic
[14:49] <Mouka> but I can't find some header files
[14:49] <Mouka> anybody has a tutorial on configuring ogre 3d with codeblocks?
[14:50] <Mouka> that's the IDE I am using
[14:52] <genii> Mouka: You may want to try channel of #ogre3d
[15:09] <byonix> hi, my laptop touchpad won't work in kubuntu jaunty how do i resolve it?
[15:26] <sergio> alguien que hable español
[15:26] <genii> sergio: /join #ubuntu-es
[15:33] <secinforch_> oi
[15:37] <Bauldrick> hi - how (where) can I configure what appears in the 'Kickoff Application Launcher'?
[15:40] <tdn> After upgrading to Kubuntu 9.04, ny disk keeps spinning down, when I am not using it. Even when I'm on AC Power. This is very annoying and probably damaging my disk. How do I make it stop?
[15:44] <Dragnslcr> tdn- disks aren't supposed to be spinning constantly. Disks only spin up when you're reading data from them. It's been that way for as long as I can remember
[15:45] <Dragnslcr> Having the disk spin constantly would probably do far more damage to the mechanical parts than having it spin up and down as necessary
[15:45] <genii> Get less noisy disks.
[15:47] <astromme> Hi. Does anyone here have a Wacom tablet or a Tablet PC?
[15:53] <BoostedR36MK3> after upgrading to version 9.04 from 8.10 i get an error at login saying no system tray detected on this system
[15:53] <BoostedR36MK3> any idea
[15:58] <genii> BoostedR36MK3: Is the error specifically to do with HPLIP ?
[15:59] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[15:59] <BoostedR36MK3> yes
[16:00] <BoostedR36MK3> it looks like it trys to load then shows that error. I see it flash before the error
[16:01] <BoostedR36MK3> the title of the message box is HPLIP Status Service
[16:01] <BoostedR36MK3> says that it is unable to start, exting
[16:02] <genii> BoostedR36MK3: It looks like something here on it: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1093684.html
[16:05] <Eruaran> I have a friend who removed networkmanager from Kubuntu
[16:05] <Eruaran> now he cannot connect to any network
[16:05] <Eruaran> anyone know how to recover from this ?
[16:07] <genii> Eruaran: Did he un-install it or just remove it from his taksbar?
[16:07] <Eruaran> gene__: he uninstalled it
[16:08] <BoostedR36MK3> genii: i cant even load it manually. gives same thing
[16:08] <Eruaran> gene__: he couldnt get it working with his wireless router, and he thought that if he uninstalled it and re-installed it (or used something else) it might fix it... of course once he removed it he was buggered ;)
[16:08] <david`> I want to install emacspeak.  When I apt-get and press TAB I can see a list of possibilities.  How do I get some info about which to choose?
[16:32] <genii> Eruaran: If he has an ethernet connection which: ifconfig    shows as eth0 and can temporarily connect by wire, then: sudo dhclient eth0     and get a number, connect,ect. From there the usual thing to reinstall something will work
[16:33] <Eruaran> ah thanks genii
[16:33] <genii> Eruaran: Apologies on lag, I had to go deal with a couple contractors here at work
[16:33] <Eruaran> genii: thats ok
[16:34] <Eruaran> genii: I've got his notebook at work so I'll fire it up in the morning and do what you said
[16:35] <Eruaran> genii: he'll be wrapped cause he thinks he's totally screwed it up
[16:38] <yaa_> any sciptar inhere
[16:38] <Peace-> scripter?
[16:42] <_zero> are there any plans to get 4.2.3 on the main repository?
[16:43] <Peace-> i dunno _zero
[16:43] <Peace-> they are on experimental
[16:43] <vasilis> hi
[16:43] <Peace-> and i have it
[16:43] <Peace-> xD
[16:43] <Stratumatic> hello everybody. I have some trouble. My laptop hide screen when i disconnect power cable
[16:44] <_zero> Pace-: well, how is it working?
[16:44] <Stratumatic> enybody can help m?y
[16:45] <Peace-> _zero: mm pretty cool , just konqueror is sucking a little more
[16:45] <Peace-> _zero: i mean i can't select copy and paste
[16:45] <Peace-> but if you don't look at this is fantastic
[16:45] <Peace-> only 220mb at the start
[16:45] <Peace-> without closing serivices
[16:46] <Taggnostr> hello
[16:46] <Peace-> i really like it
[16:46]  * Peace- just compiled the lasted kdenlive svn
[16:46] <Taggnostr> with kde4, is there a way to auto accept all the files sent with
[16:46] <Taggnostr> kbluetooth?
[16:46] <Peace-> *latestl
[16:46] <Peace-> -.-''
[16:47] <Taggnostr> it keep asking what do I want to do for every files, and I have to transfer 300 files
[16:47] <Taggnostr> a 'yes to all' option would work too, but I can't find anything like that
[16:59] <montess> hi
[16:59] <montess> i just install kde 4.2.3.. alas
[16:59] <montess> gimp trashes my system now :(
[16:59] <montess> i can't do anything about it
[16:59] <montess> and i need to use it to work
[17:00] <montess> so is there any way to downgrade to 4.2.2 ?
[17:03] <bdizzle> hi, I was wondering how to get to kfind in kubuntu 9.04
[17:03] <bdizzle> I know there is some key shortcut to get to essentially "Run" from windows, but i forgot what the combo was
[17:04] <montess> hey bdizzle .. try ALT+f2
[17:07] <montess> hm.. is anybody here or is the channel moderated and i am actually not sending anything?
[17:08] <BluesKaj> montess, you're text is visible , yes :)
[17:08] <montess> oh ok :) thanks!
[17:09] <BluesKaj> oops your
[17:13] <bdizzle_> hi, I was wondering if anyone knows how to get to kfind from within kubuntu 9.04?
[17:14] <montess> montess>	hey bdizzle .. try ALT+f2
[17:14] <BluesKaj> try kfind in the konsole , bdizzle_
[17:14] <bdizzle_> yeah, did that
[17:15] <bdizzle_> is there a way to get to it from the k-menu, or to install a shortcut to it from there?
[17:15] <BoostedR36MK3> after upgrading to 9.04 my laptop is screwed.. the system try and none of the networking will work. Can i go back to 8.10?
[17:17] <montess> bdizzle in the k-menu is above the items in the menu.. top of the menu?
[17:17] <montess> see that input there? that's your krunner
[17:17] <montess> it says... "Search" in front of it
[17:17] <BluesKaj> BoostedR36MK3, have you tried this sudo apt-get remove plasma-widget-network*, then sudo dpkg -i plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb
[17:19] <montess> BoostedR36MK3: try installing Windows
[17:19] <BluesKaj> !windows | montess
[17:20] <BluesKaj> montess , no smarta** remarks about other OS's pls
[17:21] <montess> no smartass at all.. i quit using windows about 7 years ago and used only Linux for desktop AND workstation (so both @home and @work) because it was too much work to ... make it work.. Linux.. is getting there now too.. guess it's time to go back to Windows
[17:22] <montess> so I guess Linux is maturing ;)
[17:23] <kanon-mat> is there a way to move "widgets" in the panel?
[17:24] <mot_> damn
[17:24] <mot_> has anybody noticed problems with alsa sound output in 9.04? i.e. apps not relasing control of the sound device dynamically?
[17:24] <mot_> normally i can have open youtube, amarok, skype, etc. and sound will work on various programs simultaneously
[17:25] <Dragnslcr> kanon-mat- if you go to the panel's settings, you can click-drag plasmoids to move them
[17:25] <mot_> for some reason, in 9.04 it will only work in one app at a time, and if i try to utilize it in more than one app at a time one of the apps will freeze.
[17:25] <montess> kanon-mat: drag and drop them.. it should work.. basically... my plasma crashes if i do that though
[17:26] <montess> you need to click the panel setting first on the right end
[17:26] <kanon-mat> ok, i had to click on settings first
[17:26] <montess> yeah
[17:27] <BluesKaj> click on the little cashew-nut icon
[17:29] <kanon-mat> i'd like to add small icons to the panel to launch apps, i can only find the menu widget to add
[17:30] <montess> oh.. that's a twisted one
[17:30] <kanon-mat> on kde3 i had 10 small launchers in 2 rows on the panel. my menu is large and it takes time to pick the apps i use most
[17:30] <montess> add them to favourites
[17:31] <montess> then drag them from favourites
[17:31] <montess> actually i see now it works from anywhere
[17:31] <montess> just drag the app menu item from the menu into the panel
[17:31] <kanon-mat> is there a favourites widget?
[17:31] <montess> it will work
[17:32] <Dragnslcr> kanon-mat- there's a Quicklaunch plasmoid
[17:32] <doimir> kanon-mat if your applications are listed in the menu just drag and drop the icons on the panel
[17:32] <kanon-mat> Dragnslcr: is it in a special pkg?
[17:33] <Dragnslcr> Not that I know of
[17:33] <Dragnslcr> Search for "quick" in the Add Widgets dialog and it should come right up
[17:35] <montess> what a mess :( i can't go back to 4.2.2 in any straight way.. 4.2.3 is a mess.. i'll start gimp now.. so bye bye all
[17:35] <kanon-mat> yes, quicklaunch works
[17:36] <kanon-mat> i guess i had too many windows open to drag icons fron the menu
[17:40] <BoostedR36MK3> 9.04 seems like a mess
[17:40] <Phibes> how do I change a partition name? it's now named 52.7 GB Media...
[17:41] <caseyboardman> i'm having better luck with 9.04 than I did with 8.10.  My 9.04 is a clean install on a new disk, though.
[17:41] <Dragnslcr> Something like partitionmanager or gparted can change the label of a partition
[17:42] <genii> Phibes: This article was written with USB drives in mind but the contents apply equally well to all types: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[17:43] <Phibes> ill check... thx genii
[17:43] <genii> Phibes: You will not see volume name changes take effect until after a reboot, just so you know why they don't seem to immdiately change.
[17:43] <Phibes> k
[17:49] <ct529> hi everybody!
[18:07] <kanon-mat> Phibes: tune2fs -L sets a label
[18:07] <padi999> hi all
[18:08] <padi999> a permission question: I have a folder that belongs to personA, now in a subfolder that belongs to personB both have read write abilities but personA can not change stuff by personB in the subfolder
[18:08] <padi999> how can I make personA able to change files in personB's subfolder which personB uploaded?
[18:09] <kanon-mat> ....and it changes immediately
[18:13] <genii> kanon-mat: tune2fs is only good for ext systems. The link i provided explains every volume name change method available to them for the different filesystems which there are drivers for under Linux, so that they can figure out which to use.
[18:14] <Hoall_> hey, if have a problem with korganizer in 9.04. i can see my events in the month view, but i don#t see anything in the daily or weekly view, just the grey screen in the background. is this a bug or should this be so?
[18:15] <doimir> you may consider adding personA and personB to a same group and then change group owner on the subfolders of personB to the group they have in common
[18:16] <Hoall_> sorry have a bad connection
[18:21] <pawel> hey i have an issue, Openoffice.org Impress in slideshow mode doesnt make KDE/Compiz taskbar disappear as it should. Anyone got solution to that? google gives nothing ...
[18:25] <Phibes> can i safely change the name of a partition without losing data?
[18:25] <Phibes> im using Gparted
[18:26] <BoostedR36MK3> anyone know how to fix the problem with 9.04 not loading the systray
[18:28] <genii> Phibes: The partition name is not kept in a location which affects the data which is in that partition. So yes.
[18:28] <pawel> hey i have a problem, Openoffice.org Impress in slideshow mode doesnt make KDE/Compiz taskbar disappear as it should. Anyone got solution to that? google gives nothing ...
[18:29] <Phibes> and how can i remove maps from the /media map, because i used mkdir to make maps to put partitions in, but spelled a mapname wrong
[18:31] <Phibes> ah, found the rm -R :)
[18:34] <Phibes> uhm, I can't seem to remove the map documenten in '/media' I've tried 'rm -R /media/documenten' but it does nothing, should I restart?
[18:34] <afeijo> !mount
[18:35] <afeijo> I need to mount a shared linux on my machine, I forgot the proper line to fstab
[18:35] <afeijo> !fstab
[18:35] <pawel> u mean the address of fstab file?
[18:35] <pawel> its /etc/fstab
[18:35] <afeijo> no
[18:35] <afeijo> the line to mount a network share to my /media/folder
[18:35] <afeijo> or the shell command
[18:36] <Phibes> gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[18:36] <Phibes> and then edit it
[18:36] <afeijo> Phibes: I am editing the file :)
[18:36] <Phibes> okay
[18:36] <afeijo> found something on ubuntu.com, let me try
[18:36] <Phibes> just to know you are using terminal :P
[18:36] <Phibes> good luck
[18:36] <afeijo> I am using terminal
[18:36] <afeijo> with nano
[18:37] <pcprofessor> ok
[18:37] <afeijo> should I use sshfs ?
[18:37] <BoostedR36MK3> anyone know how to fix the problem with 9.04 not loading the systray?
[18:38] <pawel> BoostedR36MK3: probably u deleted the systray applet
[18:38] <BoostedR36MK3> no
[18:38] <pawel> try rightclicking on the taskbarr and adding it
[18:38] <solid_liq> !ping
[18:38] <BoostedR36MK3> it never showed after updating to 9.04 from 8.10
[18:38] <pawel> maybe u can try adding it anyway?
[18:39] <afeijo> do I need samba to mount a network share?
[18:39] <BoostedR36MK3> there is no taskbar
[18:39] <pawel> afeijo: depends what kind of network share
[18:40] <afeijo> pawel: its from my ubuntu server, ext3 partition
[18:40] <afeijo> the server shares it with samba
[18:40] <Phibes> Ive created two new ext4 partitions, totally clean, but I can't copy/paste to them
[18:41] <pawel> if its a share drive in lan it doesnt use samba
[18:41] <Phibes> or create a folder for that matter
[18:41] <pawel> if its a windows shared folder it does
[18:41] <afeijo> ok, it is shared and working, I would like to mount on my machine
[18:42] <BoostedR36MK3> can i go back to 8.10
[18:43] <afeijo> pawel: do I use NFS ?
[18:43] <pawel> afeijo: u should know that
[18:45] <Phibes> two new ext4 partitions are not working correctly, they won't let me do anything on them
[18:45] <pawel> hey i have an issue, Openoffice.org Impress in slideshow mode doesnt make KDE/Compiz taskbar disappear as it should. Anyone got solution to that? google gives nothing ...
[18:46] <faunris_> ррр
[18:52] <stlfan> need some help getting to and setting up my wireless
[18:52] <faunris_> =_=
[18:53] <faunris_> i search .conkyrc please help me
[18:54] <iivv> how do i fix font rendering in kubuntu? anti-aliasing is too fuzzy, and with it off its too jagged
[18:55] <stlfan> I cant get wireless and the network panel is not located in the systems directory
[18:55] <iivv> stlfan: are you in 9.04
[18:56] <stlfan> no im in 8.10 on ps3
[18:58] <pubuntu_> Hello ppl
[19:03] <stlfan> can anyone help me?
[19:05] <genii> stlfan: Best to just ask your actual question and see if any takers
[19:07] <genii> stlfan: What sort of wireless adapter do you have on this ps3?
[19:07] <BoostedR36MK3> how do i reinstall kde?
[19:08] <stlfan> the one that comes with the ps3
[19:09] <genii> BoostedR36MK3: The kubuntu-desktop is package name. You can do: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop  which is the shortest thing aside from a reinstall from CD or so
[19:09] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: what KDE and why would you need to reinstall it?
[19:10] <BoostedR36MK3> after upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04 i get nothing on my screen after login
[19:10] <genii> stlfan: Unfortunately I don't know enough about the PS3 to be of much help. If you keep asking every 10 minutes or so however, someone may take it up
[19:10] <BoostedR36MK3> i am wondering if reinstalling kde will fix this
[19:11] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: what graphic card do you have?
[19:11] <BoostedR36MK3> built in to the laptop
[19:11] <BoostedR36MK3> not sure what brand
[19:11] <BoostedR36MK3> i get the background
[19:11] <BoostedR36MK3> but nothing else
[19:11] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: type lspci on a console will get you the name of the card
[19:12] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: you mean the KDE background?
[19:12] <stlfan> I cant get to the networking tab to even change or check to see if it the configuration or what
[19:12] <BoostedR36MK3> correct
[19:12] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: well, I think you have some basic packages missing then
[19:13] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: can you open a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+f+ ?
[19:13] <Mamarok> F1 I meant
[19:13] <BoostedR36MK3> i am not the first to have this problem from what i gather but i dont know how they fixed it
[19:13] <BoostedR36MK3> and i can open a terminal
[19:13] <BoostedR36MK3> or any other app
[19:13] <stlfan> how do i get to this using the terminal
[19:14] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: please go to that terminal then and type
[19:14] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: sudo apt-get update
[19:14] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: then sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:15] <BoostedR36MK3> i have tried that but will again
[19:15] <chemikalz> i cant get my computer to use my external speakers, i tried ALSA and pulse audio
[19:15] <Mamarok> stlfan: I am sorry, I never used a PS3, but normall you should be able to go to a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F1 on every Linux
[19:15] <Phibes> I dont seem to have writig permissions on 2 of my 3 partitions, while the property/permissions say the same thing...
[19:16] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: please give feedback then :)
[19:16] <chukwuma> hello all
[19:17] <stlfan> -i can get to terminal but how do i get to the networking configurations
[19:17] <Mamarok> !hi chukwuma
[19:17] <Mamarok> stlfan: if you are in a terminal you can then type lspic to see what networking card you have
[19:17] <stlfan> using terminal
[19:17] <Mamarok> chukwuma: sorry, wrong factoid :)
[19:17] <Mamarok> stlfan: yes
[19:18] <Mamarok> stlfan: just tpye lspci
[19:19] <Mamarok> chemikalz: your soundcard works?
[19:20] <stlfan> it just returns to the prompts
[19:22]  * genii wonders if the PS3 has a PCI bus on it
[19:22] <BoostedR36MK3> i see.. for some reason after upgrading i have no panel or anything. I guess i can manually add it all
[19:23] <stlfan> ? idont know but this version of kubunt is made forthe ps3
[19:23] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: that should not happen, did you try moving your ~/.kde/ to ~/.kde_old/ and restart KDE again?
[19:26] <genii> stlfan: #ubuntu-ps3  seems to be the official support channel for the PS3 and (K)ubuntu
[19:27] <madRil> I have a question guys, once you connect to a wireless network
[19:27] <v3ctor> i can't get my cheap older nvidia card to get better than 800x600 resolution on kubuntu 9.04. It is a 'nVidia Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT]'
[19:27] <genii> stlfan: They will probably be better equipped there to assist you than in here because of the hardware differences, etc
[19:27] <madRil> can you see other computers that are connected as well (windows users)
[19:27] <stlfan> ok i must of overlooked the channel thanks for trying
[19:28] <BoostedR36MK3> Mamarok: i did that and i get nothing on my screen but the background again
[19:29] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: nothing, not even a cashew shaed icon on the upper right?
[19:29] <BoostedR36MK3> i get that icon
[19:30] <BoostedR36MK3> but nothing else
[19:30] <Mamarok> madRil: in the same network, yes
[19:30] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: then try right click and add the panel
[19:31] <Mamarok> does it go on top or on the bottom?
[19:31] <BoostedR36MK3> top
[19:32] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: add another panel, that should go to the bottom
[19:32] <BoostedR36MK3> yea
[19:33] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: you have the same cashew shaped icon on the right side of the panel, click on it to configure the widgets to add
[19:33] <BoostedR36MK3> any clue why i lost all this in the upgrade?
[19:34] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: not at all, very strange, you are the first with that problem
[19:34] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: but solved now :)
[19:35] <BoostedR36MK3> yea i assume others have had it since there are poeple getting errors of not having a system tray
[19:35] <BoostedR36MK3> maybe they just dont come on IRC
[19:35] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: oh, where, bug reports on launchpad?
[19:35] <BoostedR36MK3> on ubuntu forums
[19:36] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: hm, if you are on teh forums, you could tell them ow to solve the problem then now :)
[19:36] <Mamarok> the*
[19:36]  * Mamarok is mistyping a lot today :(
[19:36] <madRil> Mamarok: how do I see the other computers
[19:36] <Jiggers> all of my friends say "teh" just because it's funny and so many people make that typo online
[19:37] <Jiggers> *some of my friends
[19:37] <Phibes> !mount
[19:37] <Jiggers> but sorry, I'll not spam any longer
[19:37] <Phibes> !GParted
[19:38] <Mamarok> madRil: there are network tools for it, but you can only actually talk to them if you own the network or have the necessary permissions
[19:38] <asia__> DarkSin
[19:38] <Mamarok> asia__: do you have a question?
[19:39] <asia__> irc.darksin.net
[19:39] <v3ctor> clear
[19:40] <Mamarok> v3ctor: do you have a question?
[19:40] <v3ctor> yes
[19:40] <ybutterf> hi
[19:41] <v3ctor> how do i get the nvidia driver to work with this nvidia Vanta/Vanta LT
[19:41] <Mamarok> !nvidia | v3ctor
[19:41] <Phibes> can anyone help me with my partitions, I can't write on the new partitions...
[19:42] <Mamarok> Phibes: explain
[19:42] <Phibes> i moutned them with Gparted and I cant seem to write on them
[19:42] <Phibes> i tried in fstab to wr but that doesnt work
[19:42] <Phibes> ext3 btw
[19:43] <Mamarok> Phibes: actually you do not mount the with gparted, they have to be mounted on teh system and you need permissions to do so
[19:43] <Phibes> how do you mount with the terminal?
[19:43] <Mamarok> Phibes: what Kubuntu version are you using?
[19:43] <Phibes> uhm... none, ubuntu :P
[19:44] <Mamarok> Phibes: Ubuntu support is in #ubuntu :)
[19:44] <Phibes> i am there :)
[19:44] <Phibes> thx
[19:45] <v3ctor> Mamarok: those instructions do not seem to work for 9.04
[19:45] <Mamarok> v3ctor: what doesn't work exactly?
[19:46] <v3ctor> i used them on the same computer with 8.10 and everyting worked well, now i have upgraded to 9.04 and following the steps changes nothing
[19:47] <Mamarok> v3ctor: I found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1067192
[19:47] <Mamarok> maybe that helps
[19:47] <Mamarok> v3ctor: you still didn't say what does not work exactly
[19:48] <v3ctor> it will only do 800x600 resolution
[19:49] <BoostedR36MK3> Mamarok: does 9.04 have the application menu like 8.10 had?
[19:49] <Mamarok> v3ctor: that entry seems to be about Jaunty, else you should search in the forums
[19:50] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: well, you can change to the 'classic' layout if you want to, but try getting used to, you would loose a lot of features :)
[19:50] <v3ctor> Mamarok: guess i wil ljust go back to 8.10. the forums come up empty. I miss the good old days when i managed the config by my self and there was no auto configuration...
[19:51] <Mamarok> v3ctor: you still can add your chages to xorg.conf though
[19:51] <Mamarok> changes* even
[19:51] <Mamarok> those are read after the autoconfiguration, so it should work
[19:52] <v3ctor> it fails complaining about the nvidia driver
[19:52] <BoostedR36MK3> Mamarok: when i added it it placed the classic but i found how to change it.. thx
[19:52] <BoostedR36MK3> now how can i get my battery montior into the system tray
[19:52] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: there is the KDE menu and the 'classic' layout, and there is Lancelot
[19:53] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: in the widget window you can filter, just open the panel configuration with the cashew and add widgets, then filter to llok for what's around
[19:53] <Mamarok> look*
[19:53]  * Mamarok needs some tea to type better
[19:54] <BoostedR36MK3> i got the widget but i thought it use to be in the system tray
[19:56] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: you might have to restart KDE to see stuff appear in the system tray
[19:56] <BoostedR36MK3> ok
[19:57] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: as this is not a battery widget but the guidance Power manager
[19:57] <BoostedR36MK3> one more thing
[19:57] <BoostedR36MK3> i got my ethernet working through the cli
[19:58] <BoostedR36MK3> now i am tring to get the network manager to work
[19:58] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: systemsettings -> network, else there is a network widget
[19:58] <BoostedR36MK3> it doesnt seem like its working with either eithernet or wireless
[19:58] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: the network should come up on start, at least the ethernet one if you use dhcp as this is the default setting
[19:59] <BoostedR36MK3> yea its not
[19:59] <BoostedR36MK3> i have to sudo dhclient eth0
[19:59] <BoostedR36MK3> then it works
[19:59] <BoostedR36MK3> the widget has not effect on it
[19:59] <BoostedR36MK3> no*
[20:00] <BoostedR36MK3> seems like going from 8.10 to 9.04 screwed up a few things :(
[20:00] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: you can add the netstart to the autostart in the systemsettings if needed
[20:00] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: well, it shouldn't have normally
[20:02] <BoostedR36MK3> network tools looks like it is taking over the connections rather than network management
[20:03] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: in the system settings you mean?
[20:03] <BoostedR36MK3> yea if i open network tools under the system menu it shows the ip
[20:03] <BoostedR36MK3> but if i open network management it shows nothing
[20:04] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: right click on the network widget should allow you to configure your connection too
[20:07] <tarun> hi..brand new to kubuntu..just installed 9.04....whats the quickest way to get the nvidia binary drivers?
[20:08] <Mamarok> tarun: installing through the package manager
[20:08] <Mamarok> tarun: but normall the drivers are installed by default
[20:08] <tarun> @Mamrok: duh...ok..I thought he standard 'hardware drivers' dialog would work..but it was disabled.
[20:09] <Mamarok> tarun: is it a fresh install or an upgrade?
[20:09] <tarun> mamrok: fresh install on a wiped disk. :)
[20:10] <BoostedR36MK3> hm network management has no effect
[20:10] <Mamarok> tarun: normally the installer installs the best driver available in the repositories
[20:10] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: what do you mean, no effect?
[20:10] <BoostedR36MK3> i added a wired connection but it will not connect
[20:10] <BoostedR36MK3> also will not find any wireless networks
[20:11] <Mamarok> tarun: do aptitude search nvidia-*
[20:12] <tarun> Mamarok:  hmm..ok..guess that didn't do here..i used the livecd and I only configured wifi after install...nvm..i found kpackageit..and I guess nvidia-glx-180 is maybe the right driver.
[20:12] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: that always worked for me (eth0 I mean), so sometimes a restart solves the problem
[20:12] <Mamarok> tarun: that's the latest one, yes
[20:12] <BoostedR36MK3> just restarted
[20:12] <tarun> Mamarok:  thanks!
[20:12] <Mamarok> tarun: yaw :)
[20:12] <tib256> i have a prolem wine client error:0: version mismatch 0/386.
[20:12] <tib256> Your wineserver binary was not upgraded correctly,
[20:12] <tib256> or you have an older one somewhere in your PATH.
[20:12] <tib256> Or maybe the wrong wineserver is still running?
[20:13] <BoostedR36MK3> could another application you know of be causing a conflict
[20:13] <phylon> I just installed Vmware server in Ubuntu, but I cannot find it in the menu
[20:14] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: no, I only heard of network problems with Jaunty for some people
[20:14] <Mamarok> phylon: use the krunner: Alt+F2
[20:15] <phylon> Mamarok, yes I did, I cant find it
[20:15] <tib256> ok thanks
[20:15] <Mamarok> phylon: try starting it from a konsole then
[20:16] <Mamarok> ...so much for patience...
[20:16] <phylon> Mamarok: vmware isnt running
[20:17] <Mamarok> phylon: well, it has to be configured first
[20:17] <Mamarok> !vmware
[20:17] <phylon> Mamrok: done configuring
[20:18] <Mamarok> phylon: maybe you should install the kappfinder package and tun it, it can find applications and add those to the menu
[20:19] <Mamarok> *run it*
[20:20] <phylon> ok
[20:20] <phylon> thanks
[20:24] <Mamarok> BoostedR36MK3: try onstalling the older package, knetworkmanager, it should work
[20:24] <Mamarok> s/o/i/
[20:27] <swatto> Hi all - Is there a shortcut key to eject the CDRom?
[20:28] <Mamarok> swatto: I don't know, check in systemsettings -> Keyboard&Mouse
[20:29] <swatto> thanks Mamarok -had a look but cant see one
[20:30] <Mamarok> swatto: I don't think so, you have to unmount it first, so that makes not much sens to put on a shortcut
[20:30] <swatto> Its just my eject button on my tower doesnt work, i have to eject by right-click eject - im guessing cause of the unmount thing
[20:32] <genii> swatto: Yes
[20:32] <Mamarok> swatto: well, that eject button can be toggled with a paper clip in the hole...
[20:32]  * Mamarok always has a paper clip at hand for that
[20:32] <swatto> Mamarok: The eject button does work
[20:32] <phitoo> Hello all!
[20:33] <swatto> Mamarok: just not in kubuntu because of the unmounting first im guessing
[20:33] <Mamarok> swatto: on your tower, yes, I read that
[20:33] <Mamarok> swatto: you have to unmount all devices on Linux first, that's not Kubuntu specific
[20:33] <phitoo> I have a memory size problem. Thinkpad T60. 4G RAM according to BIOS. Kernel is Jaunty x86_64. But Linux only sees 3G.
[20:34] <Mamarok> phitoo: because you installe a 32 bit system
[20:34] <Mamarok> which only runs up to 3 Gb Ram
[20:34] <phitoo> Nope. x76_64.
[20:34] <albert_> bsr une personne parle francais svp
[20:34] <Mamarok> !fr | albert_
[20:34] <genii> !fr | albert_
[20:34] <genii> Tie!
[20:35] <albert_> ok tank
[20:35] <Mamarok> phitoo: then I don't know, what does top tell you?
[20:36] <genii> phitoo: I have seen that also, but cannot recall the details. I think it has to do specifically with memstat or vmstat not being 64bit
[20:36] <phitoo> Mamarok: top sees only what linux sees I guess.
[20:36] <Mamarok> phitoo: you guess or took a look?
[20:37] <Mamarok> genii: I have a Thinkpad on 64 with 4Gb ram and it sees it all
[20:37] <phitoo> mamarok: I looked. :-)
[20:37] <genii> phitoo: To be sure it's 64bit, what says: uname -r       ?
[20:38] <phitoo> genii: here's the output of dmesg | grep Memory:
[20:38] <phitoo> genii: [    0.004000] Memory: 3037008k/3136320k available (4760k kernel code, 492k absent, 98192k reserved, 2540k data, 536k init)
[20:39] <phitoo> genii: and here's uname -a:
[20:39] <phitoo> genii: Linux mintaka 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:58:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:39] <genii> Interesting.
[20:40] <phitoo> genii: and the BIOS reports 4096MB. I checked.
[20:40] <Mamarok> same kernel here, it sees all my ram
[20:40] <genii> phitoo: Does your video use onboard ram or have it's own?
[20:40] <phitoo> genii: on board ram. But not more than 128M.
[20:43] <phitoo> genii: memtest also sees only 3G. Weird.
[20:43] <phitoo> genii: and I've already tried swapping the modules.
[20:50] <wamyc> test
[21:08] <administrador> alguien puede pasarme un LINK de descarga donde peuda
[21:08] <administrador> descargar un messenger para KUBUNTU?
[21:08] <administrador> alguien me lee?
[21:08] <apol> is it working for ext4 or should I stay with ext3?
[21:09] <apol> administrador: si quieres hablar en castellano -> #kubuntu-es
[21:14] <deco> is it possible to install kde 3.5 in ubuntu 9.4 ?
[21:14] <genii> deco: Not in the official version. There is an UNSUPORRTED 9.04 cd image with kde3 however.
[21:15] <deco> genii, oh :-( i miss kde 3 :-( it was so fast
[21:16] <genii> deco: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/  has these 9.04/kde3 images. Remember you can't get support for it here though, if you go and use one.
[21:17] <deco> genii,  thanks !, but i think i should not use kde3 anymore since it's support is gonna end for good soon....
[21:18] <genii> deco: I myself am on 8.04/kde3
[21:18] <deco> genii, oh:P , is kde 4 really bad?
[21:20] <Morydd> any anyone offer some advice for recording screen casts? I seem to be only able to generate a .ogg file that doesn't play back properly on my own machine.
[21:20] <Morydd> I've tried krecordmydesktop as well as istanbul
[21:21] <genii> deco: Opninions differ. I'm not nuts about it.
[21:21] <Xer0Xe> how do I remove these modules form my Ubuntu ? vmmon / vmnet / vmci
[21:22] <genii> Xer0Xe: Those belong to vmware.
[21:22] <Tm_T> KDE 4.4 <3
[21:22] <genii> Xer0Xe: If you just want to unload them from the memore, use like: sudo modprobe -r modulename
[21:22] <Xer0Xe> yes, when I try to run ./vmware-config.pl
[21:24] <Xer0Xe> genii: I installed and configured vmware, I think I scrwed up the networking section, now I want to re-run it again
[21:24] <Xer0Xe> trying to run vmware server 2.0 on Ubuntu 8.04
[21:24] <genii> Xer0Xe: You'll get more help specifically with vmware in their channel,  ##vmware
[21:25] <genii> Sorry two ## there
[21:26] <Xer0Xe> thanks
[21:26] <genii> Xer0Xe: #vmware  Apologies. I did not think it was an Official channel (which have only one # )
[21:28] <wakawaka> http://kiddshow.com/listenlive.html
[21:31] <kanon-mat> i have no window decorations for vlc and the text in the vlc menu has almost the same color as the background
[21:32] <kanon-mat> how can i get window decorations for example like in gimp?
[21:34] <pietje_phuck> Is there any way to read the input from /dev/input/mouse0 as a user without changing the permissions or ownership?
[21:34] <phitoo> genii: Just tried Fedora 11 live CD and I get the same results. So it's got to be a hardware problem I guess. Darn!
[21:35] <pietje_phuck> I am trying to make a track timer in bash, using a mouse as the input device for the laser ....
[21:35] <genii> phitoo: I'd recommend trying a different external enclosure
[21:36] <genii> phitoo: Sorry, wrong reply. another person was having an external hd not being seen
[21:36]  * genii requires more caffeine
[21:36] <phitoo> genii: ok!
[21:37] <genii> phitoo: I'm pretty sure it has to do with having onboard video or else shared memory or such.
[21:39] <phitoo> genii: I don't see why. But I'm willing to entertain the idea...
[21:40] <genii> phitoo: Will the system accept more than 4Gb of ram?
[21:41] <genii> phitoo: Because then I'd say maybe try to plug something like 6Gb in it and see if the difference is the same between total and what it says is available, etc etc
[21:43] <bluecode> outch... how do I resolve the packaging issues with kde 4.3 beta?
[21:44] <bluecode> I managed to uninstallt the oxygen icons and I am not able to reinstall them, because libpimkde4 somehow blocks that
[21:44] <phitoo> genii: according to Lenovo 4 is the max.
[21:45] <genii> phitoo: I guess you're stuck with what amount it says then, unfortunately
[21:45] <pilif12p> Hi
[21:46] <phitoo> genii: this computer has been a pain in the neck since day 1.
[21:46] <pilif12p> how do i boot Kubuntu via flash drive?
[21:46] <genii> pilif12p: By "flash drive" you mean USB stick?
[21:47] <pilif12p> Genii, yes
[21:47] <pilif12p> genii: im running Ubuntu now
[21:48] <genii> pilif12p: The method for 8.10 described here: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-kubuntu-810-install-via-usb-creator/  also works for 9.04
[21:48] <pilif12p> Okay
[21:49] <pilif12p> erm, the problem is, i dont have a CD Drive
[21:49] <pilif12p> ^^genii
[21:49] <gigabz666> Hi all. Just wondering if somebody could help me with Kdenlive under Kubuntu 9.04 KDE 4.2.2.
[21:50] <genii> pilif12p: Ah, you didn't specify. So you have already on it a Linux but no CD ?
[21:50] <pilif12p> genii: Yes, im running on a netbook
[21:50] <genii> pilif12p: Ah, netbooks again are an entire different issue
[21:51] <genii> pilif12p: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR probably has somehwere on it what yu want
[21:52] <pilif12p> Genii: Okay, would it work to do that on a desktop?
[21:52] <pilif12p> I mean, install it via my desktop
[21:53] <genii> pilif12p: You'd have to read the pertinent pages on that site. I myself haven't had to deal with any netbooks or remixes, etc etc personally.
[21:53] <fm> When I'm running Ubuntu in KDE-mode the internet signal is low when i restart in Gnome it 's all good
[21:53] <pilif12p> Genii: okay, i just want regular, anyway
[21:54] <genii> Work requires me, I'll be away from my keyboard but back in a few minutes
[22:05]  * genii sips his coffee
[22:07] <neoandersen> help how to solve this problem: RuntimeError: could not create GladeXML object
[22:08] <neoandersen> my pychess is'nt running...
[22:13] <druupy> ok this is a EmrgEncy
[22:13] <druupy> updatEd to 9.1 and now my E kEy will only work if I usE shift
[22:14] <druupy> gEt this, EvEn thE virtual kEyboard won't do it!
[22:14] <Kovert> ? how can i import a repository file from a text file in kubuntu
[22:14] <Dragnslcr> druupy- if you mean 9.10, #ubuntu+1
[22:14] <Kovert> sorry repository key
[22:15] <Kovert> ? how can i import a repository key from a text file in kubuntu?
[22:22] <kanon-mat> neoandersen left :(
[22:23] <kanon-mat> druupy: if you start xev and click the window, does pressing "e" give any output?
[22:24] <druupy> hold on, I will chck
[22:25] <GodHand> hey guys, would anyonee reccomend me to uninstall dolphin and install krusader instead?
[22:26] <druupy> kanon-mat: I can sEnd to pastEbin, ok?
[22:26] <kanon-mat> you dont have to uninstall dolphin
[22:26] <kanon-mat> ok, druupy
[22:28] <druupy> http://pastebin.com/m4af48eb4
[22:28] <kanon-mat> GodHand: you can choose the file manager to use as default in system settings>default applications
[22:28] <druupy> thErE u go
[22:28] <GodHand> yeah but i kinda want to too, i'm running pretty low on space and im just having to uninstall all my duplicate programs.
[22:28] <kanon-mat> i think krusader is a larger program, i have run kde3 without dolphin
[22:29] <kanon-mat> kde takes up quite a lot of space :)
[22:29] <GodHand> ahh thank you, and yes kde takes up quite some space
[22:29] <GodHand> but i love plasma
[22:29] <druupy> nothing compard to Vista
[22:29] <GodHand> even though it keeps crashing on me :S
[22:30] <druupy> i don't know Enough about x mEssagEs to know if it is normal
[22:31] <kanon-mat> druupy: it seems your keyboard hardware is ok and that your system detects a keypress
[22:32] <druupy> Evn using Kvkbd it won't show a lowr casE E
[22:32] <kanon-mat> so there is some configuration problem...
[22:32] <druupy> my guEss too
[22:33] <kanon-mat> what is the output of: "xmodmap -pke | grep -v =$ | grep 26"?
[22:34] <kanon-mat> paste my lower case e :)
[22:34] <druupy> oh wEll pastEd e's work :)
[22:35] <druupy> poor solution though :)
[22:35] <kanon-mat> GodHand: you can use a konqueror file manager profile.
[22:36]  * kanon-mat does not use dolphin
[22:36] <druupy> http://pastebin.com/m31554ddf
[22:36] <GodHand> mmm, i don't really like the whole konqueror layout though
[22:36] <GodHand> im a bit picky :P
[22:37] <druupy> konq's only flaw is too slow
[22:37]  * druupy is spoilEd on Safari
[22:39] <GodHand> While im here, does any1 know when is the next kubuntu release?
[22:39] <kanon-mat> druupy:  this is my output: keycode  26 = e E e E EuroSign cent EuroSign cent
[22:39] <kanon-mat> but i dont think you need the eurosign
[22:40] <kanon-mat> i dont know more than this. i think it should work as it is
[22:40] <Dragnslcr> GodHand- releases are every six months (April and October)
[22:41] <kanon-mat> i dont surf much on konq, its my main file manager
[22:42] <GodHand> oh wow, great to know, i can't wait
[22:47] <druupy> kanon-mat: do you havE a Euro kb?
[22:47] <druupy> minE is US
[22:49] <kanon-mat> yes, i use a swedish keyboard
[22:50] <druupy> thE problEm happns aftEr thE login managr
[22:50] <druupy> as my login password usEs a lowr casE E
[22:52] <kanon-mat> what happens if you ctrl-alt-F1 and do another login? (ctrl-alt-F7 to return here)
[22:52] <druupy> i will try, brb
[22:52] <druupy> works in command linE
[22:54] <kanon-mat> ok, what locale settings is there in system settings > advanced > login manager?
[22:55] <druupy> hmmm sEt as British En_GB
[22:56] <kanon-mat> idk if you can paste an e to a passwd
[22:56] <druupy> ys
[22:56] <druupy> i can
[22:56] <druupy> (found out just now)
[22:56] <Bauldrick> I've just noticed I can't get a cd to play in jaunty?
[22:56] <kanon-mat> try us locale
[22:56] <kanon-mat> what app, Bauldrick?
[22:56] <druupy> all grEyd out
[22:56] <druupy> can't chang
[22:56] <kanon-mat> ok
[22:57] <Bauldrick> kanon-mat: kscd - amarok....
[22:57] <druupy> ALL of login managEr is grEy
[22:58] <kanon-mat> ok, then it seems that you cannot paste into a passwd
[22:58] <druupy> no, it lEt mE into GRUB
[22:58] <druupy> askEd for PW
[22:59] <druupy> lEt mE into again w/o PW so it was hEld in sEssion
[22:59] <kanon-mat> what settings in: system settings > regional &language?
[23:00] <kanon-mat> Bauldrick: if you put an audio cd in, do you get a popup window asking what you want to do?
[23:01] <druupy> strangE, it was grEy also, but I could switch to "EnablE kEyboard Layout"
[23:01] <druupy> chos US
[23:01] <Bauldrick> kanon-mat: yep, so  i ask kscd to play it - kscd opens but just doesn't do anything
[23:01] <kanon-mat> no error message?
[23:02] <druupy> no
[23:02] <Bauldrick> kanon-mat: not for me no
[23:02]  * druupy was also surprizd
[23:03] <kanon-mat> druupy: have you checked  "enable layout"?
[23:03] <druupy> y
[23:03] <druupy> yEs
[23:04] <kanon-mat> play around a bit, see if anything happens :)
[23:04] <kanon-mat> Bauldrick:  ls -l /media
[23:04] <kanon-mat> then ls -l /media/cdrom0
[23:05] <druupy> no luck
[23:05] <druupy> should I rstart X?
[23:05] <kanon-mat> you login with kdm, right?
[23:06] <druupy> yEp
[23:06] <drbobb> is rhythmbox broken in jaunty?
[23:07] <drbobb> ok I know it's not really a kubuntu question, but I've been looking for an alternative to the massive regression that is amarok2
[23:07] <kanon-mat> there is exaile, i havent tried it lately
[23:08] <drbobb> and all other music players in (k)ubuntu seem to be suffering various degrees of breakage
[23:08] <drbobb> exaile fails silently to open shoutcast streams, most of the time
[23:09] <drbobb> (and I really hate apps that fail silently, and pretend nothing's happened, when they don't work)
[23:09] <druupy> rEstarting X, brb
[23:10] <drbobb> while rhythmbox just keeps on popping up a dialog about installing missing plugins
[23:10] <drbobb> and when I click Ok it fails, and starts over
[23:10] <kanon-mat> is it an endless loop? i remember kaffeine did that
[23:10] <drbobb> (and I do have all the restricted extras installed already)
[23:11] <Bauldrick_> that was strange....... any way, why can't i play a cd fella's?
[23:11] <kanon-mat> maybe launchpad knows, drbobb
[23:11] <kanon-mat> i havent used kde4 for very long
[23:12] <drbobb> well what I'd really like is one music player that's not mostly broken
[23:12] <GodHand> kanon-mat: what do you use now?
[23:12] <kanon-mat> Bauldrick_ what is the output of ls -l /media/cdrom0?
[23:12] <drbobb> I don't really have the skill to fix bugs in exaile or rhythmbox
[23:12] <W4gn3r> what would be that player?
[23:13] <kanon-mat> i have konqueror in a 2-panel layout, like krusader
[23:13] <drbobb> W4gn3r: well that's my question, haven't found one yet
[23:13] <Bauldrick_> total 0 --- scd0 -> /dev/scd0
[23:13] <Barridus> is there a "Widget" that will allow me simply to add an icon to launch one application of my choosing?
[23:13] <phh> (mplayer gets almost never broken.)
[23:14] <phh> Barridus: just drag & drop from the menu to whereever you want
[23:14] <kanon-mat> drbobb: i just thought there would be clues or fixes in launchpad
[23:14] <W4gn3r> drbobb: did you tried amarok?
[23:14]  * Tw|sT1 still likes konqueror better than Dolphin.... much more useful
[23:14] <drbobb> phh: I've used mplayer for video, does it do a music library, shoutcast etc.?
[23:14] <phh> drbobb: shoutcast yes, music library no
[23:14] <Barridus> phh, ....oh.  XD  thanks
[23:14] <kanon-mat> i think mplayer is the most versatile player
[23:15] <phh> Barridus: kde4 is meant to be logical :-)
[23:15] <drbobb> W4gn3r: I'm using amarok right now, it mostly works but does a lot less than the kde3 version
[23:15] <phh> for some parts.
[23:15] <W4gn3r> amarok 1.4 or amarok 2.1 beta, or wait until amarok 2.1 comes out
[23:15] <drbobb> and is massively uglier, too
[23:15] <kanon-mat> Barridus: there is also a quicklaunch widget
[23:15] <W4gn3r> drbobb: what version are you using?
[23:16] <kanon-mat> i use amarok 1.4 on debian sid, it works in kde4
[23:16] <drbobb> W4gn3r: the standard jaunty version
[23:16] <Barridus> kanon-mat, yeah i don't care much for it tbh
[23:16] <W4gn3r> like kanon-mat said, 1.4 works with kde4, you can downgrade to 1.4 and/or install the beta
[23:17] <Barridus> although i may fall back on it though, since dragged-to-desktop app icons can't be autoarranged apparently
[23:17] <W4gn3r> and btw, the beta is really cool
[23:17] <kanon-mat> i didnt like the amarok 2.0.2, but i havent tried all features yet
[23:17] <GodHand> mplayer is most versatile at what? surely its VLC that can download streams too, lightweight and heavily skinnable
[23:18] <kanon-mat> my vlc doesnt have window decorations right now. mplayer does streams
[23:18] <drbobb> GodHand: well I dunno but jaunty's vlc isn't working for me
[23:18] <drbobb> local files work Ok but not streams
[23:18] <W4gn3r> kanon-mat: well, amarok 2.0.2 doesn't have many features, but I did like the interface
[23:18] <GodHand> oh really? i downloaded it from the website and it works fine for me...hmm:/
[23:18] <kanon-mat> Bauldrick, how's it going?
[23:19] <drbobb> well I'm using the distro version and it doesn't work too well
[23:19] <ati> hello
[23:19] <ati> im totally new here
[23:19] <W4gn3r> audio = amarok !  video = SMPlayer
[23:19] <kanon-mat> !hi
[23:20] <ati> firstly im sorry for my poor english
[23:20] <drbobb> I guess there must be a PPA of amarok2.1 beta?
[23:20] <W4gn3r> "ati", suggestive nickname =)
[23:20] <ati> :)
[23:20] <Bauldrick_> kanon-mat: nope i get total 0 --- scd0 -> /dev/scd0. is it using wrong device? where do i change it in kscd - options gives me option to eject cd when finished, thats all!!
[23:20] <W4gn3r> drbobb: yes there is, and for amarok 1.4 too
[23:20] <ati> i would like to ask a question
[23:21] <ati> :
[23:21] <W4gn3r> for the beta, look for project-neon
[23:21] <kanon-mat> !ask
[23:21] <kanon-mat> your allowed to ask, ati. you dont need permission :)
[23:21] <ati> how can i organize icons on the panel in quicklaunch into multiple rows?
[23:21] <W4gn3r> drbobb: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bogdanb/+archive/ppa amarok 1.4
[23:22] <ati> i have 9.04
[23:22] <kanon-mat> rightclick on the quicklaunch and set maximum rows, ati
[23:23] <kanon-mat> quicklaunch settings > general
[23:23] <W4gn3r> drbobb: http://amarok.kde.org/en/node/482 the beta
[23:24] <kanon-mat> Bauldrick_: do you have mplayer installed?
[23:24] <W4gn3r> the quicklaunch panel could be better, it could show the name like quicklaunch on windows
[23:25] <Bauldrick_> no - i'll install it - why does it say i quit^^^ ?!!
[23:26] <kanon-mat> i dont know if you can play an audio cd without mounting it and not having an audio cable
[23:26] <ati> kanon-mat, yeah, i did it but nothing happened. i had set number of visible icons to 4 and maximum rows to 2.
[23:26] <drbobb> W4gn3r: thx
[23:26] <Bauldrick_> eh? it gets mounted
[23:27] <kanon-mat> maybe you can play audio cd like that
[23:27] <kanon-mat> ok
[23:27] <W4gn3r> ati: all icons are being shown or just some of them and an arrow?
[23:27] <ati> all. i hav only 3 on it now
[23:27] <Bauldrick_> i never had problem pre jaunty though you see :(
[23:27] <ati> e
[23:27] <kanon-mat> it is possible to play media without mounting it
[23:28] <W4gn3r> ati: there is your problem, the icons will be arranged only if you have more then 4 icons (I think)
[23:28] <kanon-mat> [00:25] <Bauldrick_> no - i'll install it - why does it say i quit^^^ ?!! I had quassel quit on me a couple of times
[23:28] <kanon-mat> oh, sorry, bad quoting
[23:29] <W4gn3r> ati: try to decrease the number of visible icons
[23:30] <W4gn3r> ati: or increase the number of icons
[23:30] <Dragnslcr> ati- what are your numbers for visible icons and maximum rows?
[23:30] <W4gn3r> Dragnslcr: <ati> kanon-mat, yeah, i did it but nothing happened. i had set number of visible icons to 4 and maximum rows to 2.
[23:31] <kanon-mat> anyway, mplayer cdda:// or vlc cdda:// should produce sound
[23:32] <ati> i had to increase the height of the panel
[23:33] <ati> now 3 icons from 5 are smaller and the are in two rows
[23:33] <drbobb> hmm looks like the beta amarok requires mysql?
[23:33] <kanon-mat> vlc cdda:// actually works better for me :)
[23:34] <Dragnslcr> ati- yeah, the icon size gets a little weird until you restart plasma
[23:34] <ati> another solution? because now the panel is too high on my 1280x800 laptop
[23:34] <kanon-mat> drbobb:  is it the same dialog that you get when you first start the regular amarok2
[23:35] <lovre> hi all
[23:35] <iivv> how can i get my font rendering to be less blurry?
[23:35] <drbobb> kanon-mat: uh no, I haven't installed it yet, but it's suggested by the fact that the package files have `mysql' in their filenames
[23:35] <lovre> my kubuntu has gotter quite slower past few days. Everything takes much time to open, etc. Can i examine this problem in any way?
[23:36] <iivv> lovre: have you tried top?
[23:37] <lovre> iivv: ok, what can i find out from the output?
[23:37] <lovre> iivv: kwin is taking 14% of CPU
[23:38] <lovre> iivv: isnt that much?
[23:38] <kanon-mat> drbobb: i remember that when i started amarok i could choose between the default sqlite, mysql or postgresk IIRC
[23:38] <ati> hey, i made it. it takes a long time but i did it =)
[23:38] <iivv> lovre: Xorg takes 10 - 20 of my cpu but i'm running smoothly actually
[23:39] <drbobb> right, that was the case in all versions I used
[23:39] <W4gn3r> drbobb: I've just installed it here, no problem at all
[23:39] <W4gn3r> just apt-get install amarok-nightly
[23:39] <drbobb> W4gn3r: ok
[23:40] <lovre> iivv: xorg takes 1% of my CPU according to top.
[23:40] <lovre> iivv: shouldnt that be too low according to yours? maybe top is wrong?
[23:40] <lovre> iivv: i dont know...
[23:41] <iivv> kwin takes <10 % on mine. i don't really know what could be the problem
[23:41] <iivv> what video card do you have?
[23:41] <lovre> iivv: nvidia 7900GS (PCIe)
[23:42] <iivv> lovre: oh. i experienced similar problems, but it was due to a known intel driver issue
[23:42] <lovre> iivv: you have the similar card?
[23:42] <lovre> iivv: can it be fixed?
[23:43] <iivv> lovre: no, i have intel 945 integrated graphics. but i am sure something can be done about your problem
[23:43] <iivv> does disabling desktop effects help?
[23:43] <lovre> iivv: its lowers kwin cpu usage to 1%
[23:44] <lovre> iivv: i didnt test it for longer time thou
[23:44] <lovre> iivv: but on a short  look, i think thing are faster. This really shouldnt happen since my CPu and GPU are faster then kwin would ever need.
[23:45] <iivv> lovre: agreed. it could be a driver issure... see what google can tell you
[23:45] <lovre> iivv: ok ill try. thank you for your time
[23:46] <lovre> i currently have installed driver version 180. Not sure whats the latest...