| BUGabundo | guud evening | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| * cwillu pokes BUGabundo with a stick | 00:48 | |
| cwillu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/380775 | 00:48 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 380775 in evolution "[karmic] Evolution's prompt to unlock default keyring can't be cancelled or denied" [Undecided,New] | 00:48 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu: my friend? | 00:49 |
| BUGabundo | who is it hanging on your side? | 00:49 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu: err Escape key ? | 00:49 |
| cwillu | I've got an evolution password prompt that grabs the keyboard and refuses to go away :p | 00:49 |
| cwillu | doesn't work | 00:49 |
| cwillu | just pops back up a second later | 00:49 |
| cwillu | I just killall'd evolution from a vterm | 00:49 |
| cwillu | but it continually popped up for about 10 minutes there | 00:49 |
| BUGabundo | I had a stupid bug with compiz and kmail (actually pineentry) where it stood in background | 00:50 |
| BUGabundo | specially (and this one still happens) if there is a full screen app opened | 00:51 |
| BUGabundo | got me tricked a few times | 00:51 |
| cwillu | yep, that one was annoying too | 00:51 |
| BUGabundo | finally I replaced pineentry-qt with pineentry-gtk and it improved | 00:51 |
| cwillu | in other news, ikanobri analyzed me based on my musings in #ubuntu-offtopic and came up with http://ikanobori.jp/garbage/cwillu_analyzed.txt :p | 00:52 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu: background / context please | 00:54 |
| cwillu | just out of the blue | 00:55 |
| BUGabundo | PRIMARY:DEFENSIVE SYMBOLIZATION:PASSIVITY 36 | 00:55 |
| cwillu | and everything I ever said in -offtopic I guess :p | 00:55 |
| BUGabundo | PRIMARY:SENSATION:COLD | 00:55 |
| BUGabundo | PRIMARY:NEED:SEX 1 | 00:55 |
| BUGabundo | oh damn | 00:55 |
| DanaG | Anyone know how to make ntfs-3g NOT take insane amounts of CPU (IOWAIT) usage during large file copy operations? | 01:23 |
| DanaG | Going from NTFS-3G to NTFS-3g starts at around 50 megabytes per second.... and then drops down to around 5. | 01:23 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: anwser 42 | 01:25 |
| cwillu | """The target for the Open Source NTFS-3G Driver is to provide similar performance to other file systems on a wide range of hardware platforms and operating systems. Meanwhile the Commercial NTFS-3G Driver focuses on the highest possible theoretical performance on the underlaying hardware architecture on the Linux platform and it provides 10-20 times better performance for instance by much higher throughput and/or much lower CPU utilization. """ | 01:25 |
| cwillu | http://www.ntfs-3g.org/performance.html | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | you are lucky. for me from NTFS to fat it goes down to 1MiB/s | 01:25 |
| DanaG | And it brings nearly everything else to a sluggish state. | 01:26 |
| DanaG | I get much higher performance with either Windows copying ntfs-to-ntfs, or with Linux copying ext4 to ext3 or vice versa -- same drive in each case. | 01:27 |
| DanaG | er, same two physical drives, rather. | 01:27 |
| * cwillu coughs, and repeats himself :p | 01:27 | |
| DanaG | What, that page touting "awesome performance"? | 01:27 |
| DanaG | I hardly call bringing the system grinding to a halt... "awesome". | 01:27 |
| cwillu | of their commercial version of ntfs-3g | 01:27 |
| DanaG | oh. Well, it's not even "similar" performance, actually. | 01:28 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: I see the same | 01:28 |
| BUGabundo | so yeah its bad | 01:28 |
| cwillu | ntfs-3g is crap | 01:28 |
| DanaG | If Wine would implement surround sound... I could ditch native Windows once and for all. | 01:29 |
| DanaG | That's about the last native Windows sort of thing I keep around: games. | 01:29 |
| DanaG | ughm now it's down to 4 megs per second. | 01:30 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: have you emailed the Manufacture and let them know about it? | 01:30 |
| DanaG | What manufacturer? | 01:30 |
| DanaG | s/what/which/ | 01:30 |
| DanaG | Well, now at least it's un-bogged.... but it's still going slowly. | 01:31 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: the one for the games | 01:31 |
| DanaG | Valve is the manufacturer of most of them. | 01:32 |
| DanaG | Or rather, "Producer" | 01:32 |
| DanaG | because "manufacturer" implies "hardware" to me. | 01:32 |
| BUGabundo | not to me | 01:32 |
| BUGabundo | but ok | 01:32 |
| BUGabundo | so, have you ? | 01:32 |
| DanaG | Not sure what good that'd do. | 01:33 |
| BUGabundo | have you let them know you want to aquire their software but you need for it to run on Linux ? | 01:33 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: its like using a BTS | 01:33 |
| DanaG | I already own the games, actually. | 01:33 |
| BUGabundo | what good is you know a bug and not report it to the dev? | 01:33 |
| BUGabundo | do you want him to guess? | 01:33 |
| BUGabundo | this is the same | 01:33 |
| BUGabundo | who will "producer" ever change or support Linux, if nobody tells them? | 01:34 |
| BUGabundo | and just complain on IRC and linux MLs, and wine forums? | 01:34 |
| DanaG | well, glad to know I'm not the only one finding ntfs-3g to be sluggish. | 01:36 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 01:37 |
| BUGabundo | isn't the entire world? | 01:37 |
| DanaG | Well, at least I'm not using ntfs-3G over USB... that'd be ouch² (ouch squared). | 01:38 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: I do.... | 01:38 |
| BUGabundo | worse | 01:39 |
| BUGabundo | I do usb 2 usb | 01:39 |
| * DanaG uses eSATA. :) | 01:39 | |
| BUGabundo | well time for bed! cu tomorrow | 01:39 |
| DanaG | Tue May 26 17:39:54 PDT 2009 | 01:39 |
| DanaG | what's your time zone? | 01:39 |
| BUGabundo | Wed May 27 01:40:42 WEST 2009 | 01:40 |
| BUGabundo | need to get up at 7am and do 80Km for out side work | 01:41 |
| DanaG | WEST? Hmm, I have no clue where that is. But yeah, have a good sleep, given the time. :) | 01:41 |
| BUGabundo | GMT | 01:41 |
| BUGabundo | Portugal | 01:41 |
| BUGabundo | or is it GMT +1 due to Summer time? | 01:42 |
| BUGabundo | bah | 01:42 |
| BUGabundo | don't disctract me eheh | 01:42 |
| DanaG | Mmm, now just 3 megs per second. | 02:11 |
| cwillu | DanaG, copying to or from? | 02:19 |
| cwillu | if from, might remount using the kernel ntfs driver, probably faster | 02:20 |
| DanaG | From one to another. | 02:20 |
| DanaG | Anyway, it finally finished. I don't often do huge file transfers like that, thankfully -- but it still sucks that it... sucks... so badly when I do do such file transfers. | 02:21 |
| cwillu | same physical drive you said? | 02:21 |
| cwillu | wonder if it would have been faster to copy to an ext partition first, and then bounce that back to the destination | 02:21 |
| DanaG | Different drive source and destination. | 02:23 |
| DanaG | What I meant by "same drive" was this: | 02:23 |
| DanaG | Source has ntfs and ext3, destination has ntfs and ext4. copying ntfs->ntfs is slow either direction, but ext3<->ext4 is just fine. | 02:24 |
| JorgeJorgesson | I've tried to use vbox guest additions with 9.10 but all it does is corrupt my system and I have to reinstall. Anyone get it to work? | 02:25 |
| cwillu | DanaG, just thinking that there may be contention inside the ntfs driver itself, and so copying ntfs -> either ext, and after copying ext back to the target ntfs might give a dramatic improvement in time | 02:26 |
| cwillu | i.e., the difference between copying directly at 3mb/s vs making an extra copy, but the whole process running at 50mb/s instead. | 02:26 |
| DanaG | I don't know if I have enough spare space to do that. | 02:27 |
| DanaG | I'd be fine with it dividing down to 25 megs per second.... but going down to 5 is rather horrible. And then it brings the rest of the system to its knees with iowait. | 02:27 |
| DanaG | Bare benchmarks on the drives are 100 down to 70 on external, and 70 down to 40 on internal. | 02:28 |
| DanaG | That's sequential read speeds with hdtach in windows. | 02:28 |
| DanaG | Granted, the internal one probably IS rather horribly fragmented. | 02:29 |
| cwillu | you were going internal -> external? | 02:29 |
| DanaG | Other way around, in this case. External is eSATA. | 02:29 |
| DanaG | And "100 down to 70" is "100 at start of drive, 70 at end of drive" | 02:29 |
| cwillu | ah, ya, the fragmentation alone might be accountable for that performance then | 02:30 |
| DanaG | I find it funny (and irritating) how few sites benchmark Linux boot on the SSDs they test. | 02:32 |
| DanaG | Not even Phoronix benchmarks booting! | 02:32 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, anything about UEFI / grub2 in UDS? | 02:33 |
| DanaG | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ocz_vertex_ssd | 02:33 |
| DanaG | Note lack of benchmark of boot time. How irritating. | 02:33 |
| DanaG | heh, I replaced my touchstick cap with ... an eraser. | 02:45 |
| DanaG | damn, not durable enough to stay intact. | 02:46 |
| cwillu | I miss suspend | 02:47 |
| * cwillu curses, empty xorg.0.log.old file :/ | 02:48 | |
| DanaG | argh, need new touchstyk cap. | 02:50 |
| DanaG | oh, and: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=5&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.launchpad.net%2Fubuntu%2F%2Bsource%2Fgsynaptics%2F%2Bbug%2F268506&ei=b5wcSsjiKZqQswPFwOCSDw&usg=AFQjCNElccvRmvBWspCYFctx2mlE10gF7w&sig2=Y4R5sNEouMQOj2tjI8LewQ | 02:50 |
| DanaG | er | 02:50 |
| DanaG | damn googlified link. | 02:50 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsynaptics/+bug/268506 | 02:51 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 268506 in gsynaptics "Cannot configure Synaptics TouchStyk settings (e.g. sensitivity, tapping, press/select)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 02:51 |
| DanaG | whose bright idea was it to break out the stick as a separate, non-configurable device, rather than leaving it a slave of the pad? | 02:58 |
| DanaG | Some great idea that was/ | 02:58 |
| DanaG | . | 02:58 |
| cwillu | is there an easy way to attach a file to an existing bugreport from the command line? | 03:08 |
| cwillu | and whoever wrote "assert k.replace('.', '').isalnum()" in problem_report.py:479 needs to think about the implications of replacing every character with "" ... :( | 03:18 |
| crdlb | every character? | 03:21 |
| cwillu | that's what '.' does :p | 03:21 |
| crdlb | that's not regex | 03:21 |
| cwillu | you're right | 03:21 |
| * cwillu smacks head | 03:21 | |
| cwillu | it's still wrong though | 03:21 |
| cwillu | dashes and underscores are used, and they don't match isalnum | 03:22 |
| cwillu | i.e., apport-collect -p xorg fails right now | 03:22 |
| DanaG | hmm, I tried the xinput2 PPA.... it didn't fix my high keycodes. | 04:09 |
| DanaG | And it broke my touchpad. :( | 04:10 |
| DanaG | Luckily, my Koala is on a spare drive, not my primary drive. =þ | 04:10 |
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| shadeslayer | anyone who has kde 4.3 and 9.10 karmic?? | 05:56 |
| shadeslayer | anyone who has karmic?? | 05:57 |
| Stupendoussteve | Probably most of the people in here :D | 05:59 |
| shadeslayer | Stupendoussteve: ok can you tell me how often it crashes?? im thinking of installing | 06:00 |
| Stupendoussteve | It doesn't crash often. Package updates have been known to break it. | 06:01 |
| Stupendoussteve | If you can't deal with not having a functional GUI because the new HAL package is broken for a day, you might not want to use Karmic | 06:02 |
| shadeslayer | Stupendoussteve: ok.....just thinking of installing :) | 06:02 |
| shadeslayer | ah...... | 06:02 |
| Stupendoussteve | they try to avoid it but things happen | 06:02 |
| shadeslayer | actually the main problem is that i cant get KDE 4.3 in Jaunty | 06:03 |
| Stupendoussteve | It's not in Karmic yet | 06:04 |
| shadeslayer | Stupendoussteve: actually it is :) | 06:05 |
| Stupendoussteve | Not according to packages.ubuntu.com | 06:05 |
| Stupendoussteve | Does it have a different name? | 06:05 |
| shadeslayer | Stupendoussteve: it says so on kubuntu.org | 06:05 |
| Stupendoussteve | That's 4.3 beta, btw. I don't know what the package names are | 06:07 |
| shadeslayer | Stupendoussteve: yes,its probably kde-nightly or something simialr,just check apt-cache search kde-nightly | 06:08 |
| Stupendoussteve | Whoops :) | 06:10 |
| Stupendoussteve | No such package btw | 06:10 |
| shadeslayer | bleh | 06:11 |
| Amaranth | Stupendoussteve: It's just the KDE packages, but 4.3 beta version | 06:42 |
| Amaranth | no special naming | 06:43 |
| Stupendoussteve | Then the site is out of date :) | 06:43 |
| Amaranth | of course KDE is junk anyway so... | 06:43 |
| * Amaranth runs | 06:43 | |
| Stupendoussteve | hehe | 06:43 |
| shadeslayer | Stupendoussteve: you there?? | 07:43 |
| shadeslayer | can i mount the downloaded ISO from my HD and then upgrade using that as the alternate CD?? | 07:44 |
| shadeslayer | bug1 | 07:46 |
| shadeslayer | bug 1 | 07:46 |
| ubottu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Timeout) | 07:46 |
| shadeslayer | "P | 07:47 |
| druid_of_system | hi everyone | 08:03 |
| shadeslayer | hal is broken right?? | 08:17 |
| shadeslayer | ill leave that out in the updates then :P | 08:20 |
| shadeslayer | anyone here?? | 08:28 |
| SwedeMike | people will reply if they see your message and know something | 08:29 |
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| shadeslayer | SwedeMike: i did post my message earlier... | 08:29 |
| shadeslayer | can i update via mounting the ISO ?? | 08:30 |
| SwedeMike | as I said, there is no use in posting it again, when people see it they will reply. | 08:31 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 08:32 |
| shadeslayer | the ISO will be done downloading in 7 min :P | 08:32 |
| shadeslayer | done..i see a script for updating...ill verify md5 first | 08:41 |
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| peterz | does ubuntu ship debuginfo package like fedora does? | 09:12 |
| shadeslayer | peterz: its in the repo | 09:13 |
| peterz | what are they called? | 09:13 |
| peterz | say, I'm looking for the debug symbols of gnu-make | 09:13 |
| shadeslayer | peterz: they will have -dbg in the end | 09:14 |
| peterz | shadeslayer: right, then I might be missing a repo because make-dbg isn't a known package here | 09:15 |
| shadeslayer | peterz: maybe...maybe not | 09:16 |
| shadeslayer | one sec | 09:16 |
| shadeslayer | !info gnu-make-dbg | 09:16 |
| ubottu | Package gnu-make-dbg does not exist in karmic | 09:16 |
| peterz | !info make-dbg | 09:16 |
| ubottu | Package make-dbg does not exist in karmic | 09:16 |
| peterz | whee | 09:17 |
| shadeslayer | peterz: try to fish in PM...also try !find package | 09:17 |
| peterz | anyway, say it did exists, would it install crap in /usr/lib/debug/ like fedora does | 09:17 |
| Zodiarche | hello | 12:09 |
| Zodiarche | have a problem with the sound. when i start ubuntu i have no sound. the welcome sound at login screen comes. but when i want to hear music on banshee or rythmbox or other applications it is muted, dont know why | 12:09 |
| Zodiarche | no one some idea? | 12:12 |
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| BluesKaj | 'Morning | 15:59 |
| charlie-tca | Hello, BluesKaj | 16:06 |
| BluesKaj | hi charlie-tca | 16:08 |
| lubomir | hello. is there a 9.10 live cd? | 16:12 |
| BluesKaj | lubomir, Alpha 1 Released: see http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha1 | 16:17 |
| lubomir | BluesKaj, have the server or alternative version graphical bootup to "just use" it as live cd? | 16:17 |
| BluesKaj | live cds are usually only avaialble after the release is "official" and ou tof the testing phase afaik | 16:20 |
| BluesKaj | I upgraded thru the internet and adding the source repos to my sources.list thenupgrading as it expalins on the above URL | 16:21 |
| lubomir | BluesKaj, did you know an other live cd with kernel version 30 and networkmanager 0.7.1? | 16:21 |
| BluesKaj | no | 16:21 |
| BluesKaj | I try not to get too far ahead | 16:22 |
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| v6lur | estonian translation is totally broken in kubuntu kk | 17:18 |
| v6lur | plus, estonian couldn't be selected as locale during setup | 17:19 |
| BluesKaj | v6lur, install language-support-et | 17:25 |
| v6lur | BluesKaj: i didn't say missing. i said broken | 17:25 |
| BluesKaj | purge/remove and reinstall | 17:25 |
| v6lur | half the strings on screen are in english | 17:25 |
| v6lur | plus stuff like & instead of underscore | 17:26 |
| v6lur | in menus | 17:26 |
| v6lur | underline* | 17:26 |
| Pici | Is the translation finished in rosetta? or does the package just not contain what should be there? | 17:26 |
| v6lur | dunno, it's fine in e.g. mandriva (cooker) | 17:27 |
| Pici | v6lur: Doesn't look like translations have opened for Karmic yet. | 17:32 |
| Pici | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic | 17:32 |
| Pici | I don't know a lot about the translations workflow, so I'm not sure if this is normal for this stage in the release cycle. | 17:32 |
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| kklimonda | Does Empathy in KK support appending to notification bubble already? | 19:06 |
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| kklimonda | is KK going to have X.Org 7.5? | 20:48 |
| kklimonda | was it even in plans before it has been delayed? | 20:49 |
| mrwes | \o/ I have sound today! | 21:40 |
| BUGabundo | yep there's a PA update | 21:41 |
| BUGabundo | have to reboot to enjoy it | 21:41 |
| mrwes | I realized that | 21:41 |
| sagredo | hi friends. does anyone know a way to turn on/off notifications? | 21:41 |
| mrwes | install Ibex | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | mrwes: +1 | 21:46 |
| BUGabundo | sagredo: or gnome straciatela session | 21:46 |
| mrwes | I for one, like the notifications -- hopefully we'll get some customization in Karmic | 21:47 |
| mrwes | e.g. -- location, size, color. etcc | 21:47 |
| BUGabundo | mrwes: they do | 21:47 |
| BUGabundo | see the BP | 21:47 |
| mrwes | yah so I've read | 21:48 |
| samd | i want to help on testing/doing whatever i can do to help develop karmic koala, is it safe to install it in the same hdd as my main instalation? or should i install on a separate hdd? | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | samd: NO | 21:51 |
| mrwes | samd, hrmm...that's a personal choice | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | it can and will cause breakage | 21:51 |
| mrwes | you could put in in a VB | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | you are expected to be able to get your self out of trouble | 21:51 |
| mrwes | me I didn't care and upgrade to the alpha from Jaunty | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 21:51 |
| mrwes | reinstalling to me is not biggie | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | mrwes: as you know I did it even before alpha | 21:52 |
| mrwes | no* | 21:52 |
| mrwes | heh | 21:52 |
| mrwes | shrug... | 21:52 |
| mrwes | however, I only did it so I could come in here and bitch when things are broken | 21:52 |
| mrwes | heh | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | you missed us, admit | 21:53 |
| samd | BUGabundo: yeah, i get my way around problems, installing in virtualbox sounds like a good choice | 21:53 |
| mrwes | Normally, I don't put anything on my HDD until RC | 21:53 |
| mrwes | but I must have been drinking too much Scotch and didn't care this time | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 21:53 |
| samd | mrwes: yeah, i think ill install it in VB, lol | 21:54 |
| samd | lol | 21:54 |
| mrwes | samd, well if you have a big enough HDD, you could setup a 'testing' partition and put it on there | 21:54 |
| samd | mrwes: ill do that, after my new SSD arrives | 21:55 |
| samd | ill use this drive for testing/backup | 21:55 |
| * BUGabundo is envious of "new SSDs | 21:55 | |
| mrwes | I've been using the 'upgrade' feature as of lately -- trying to see if it actually works :) | 21:55 |
| BUGabundo | samd: feel free to send me the old ones | 21:55 |
| mrwes | how big of an SSD did you get? | 21:55 |
| samd | mrwes: 80gig | 21:56 |
| mrwes | newegg had some good prices as of late | 21:56 |
| mrwes | hrmm.. how much $$ | 21:56 |
| samd | ya, intel x-25m 80 gig, 324 usd | 21:56 |
| mrwes | I just put a 1TB eSATA on my server | 21:56 |
| mrwes | ouch | 21:56 |
| samd | mrwes: its a bit extensive, i could get a cheaper one, but i read intel had the best ones, the fasters, and the more reliable talking about wear | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | samd: I read the sam | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | *same | 21:57 |
| mrwes | ic | 21:58 |
| samd | BUGabundo: yeah, thats why i droped a little more $$ on the intel | 21:58 |
| mrwes | certainly more $$ than my new eSATA drive :) | 21:58 |
| samd | mrwes: yeah | 21:58 |
| mrwes | :) | 21:58 |
| samd | mrwes: how much u dropeed | 21:58 |
| mrwes | $84, for a WD and I put it inside a Roswell enclosure w/ a fan | 21:59 |
| mrwes | hundie total maybe | 21:59 |
| samd | mrwes: nice, how much rpm? | 21:59 |
| mrwes | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136317 | 22:00 |
| mrwes | 32mb cache | 22:01 |
| Pici | !offtopic | 22:01 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! | 22:01 |
| mrwes | come on...no one else is even talking... | 22:01 |
| mrwes | sigh | 22:01 |
| Pici | So? Whats wrong with joining #ubuntu-offtopic and talking there? | 22:01 |
| samd | mrwes: good deal | 22:02 |
| samd | Pici: ight, sorry | 22:02 |
| mrwes | nuttin | 22:02 |
| mrwes | funny how sometimes you can come in here and ask a legitimate question -- dead silence | 22:02 |
| mrwes | mention something OT and b00m | 22:03 |
| mrwes | lots of activity :) | 22:03 |
| BUGabundo | ahaah | 22:03 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 22:03 |
| samd | mrwes: yah lol, well i came asking a legitime question | 22:03 |
| mrwes | samd, welp -- you set me up with OT questions | 22:03 |
| samd | :p | 22:04 |
| mrwes | Pici: have you noticed since Jaunty that the notification area does not resize when icons are removed? | 22:04 |
| mrwes | Pici: kinda looks like swiss cheese up there sometimes | 22:04 |
| mrwes | they should slide right or left when icons leave the area | 22:04 |
| mrwes | any plans to fix that? | 22:05 |
| mrwes | @) | 22:05 |
| BUGabundo | mrwes: works for me | 22:06 |
| mrwes | hrmm... | 22:06 |
| BUGabundo | mrwes: samd: #ubuntu-diskspeed if you please | 22:06 |
| mrwes | BUGabundo, just killed Evolution and that time the notificaiton area slide left like it should | 22:09 |
| BUGabundo | mrwes: #ubuntu-diskspeed if you please | 22:10 |
| mrwes | so polite | 22:10 |
| druupy | updatEd to 9.1 and now my E kEy will only work if I usE shift | 22:15 |
| druupy | gEt this, EvEn thE virtual kEyboard won't do it! | 22:15 |
| BUGabundo | druupy: ROLG | 22:16 |
| BUGabundo | you are going to kill me eheheeh | 22:16 |
| druupy | plEasE this problEm is crippling mE! | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo | druupy: its true? not a joke? | 22:18 |
| druupy | NO JOKE | 22:18 |
| druupy | shift E works | 22:18 |
| druupy | lowEr casE doEsn't | 22:18 |
| druupy | i don't think its a krnl issuE as I still havE thE krnl from 8.x | 22:19 |
| BUGabundo | druupy: stupid question: is it jammed? | 22:19 |
| druupy | shift works | 22:19 |
| druupy | shift-E | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | does a LiveCD reproduce it ? | 22:20 |
| druupy | i updatd intrnt | 22:20 |
| druupy | not by livEcd | 22:20 |
| druupy | thE kEy works up until th login managEr taks my password (which has a E in it) | 22:20 |
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| druupy | AFTER that, it stops working | 22:21 |
| druupy | is thErE a kEyboard mapping in X/gnom/KDE? | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | seems you found a bug | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | better report it | 22:23 |
| BUGabundo | but don't exepct much attention until before the end of the week/uds | 22:23 |
| druupy | i havE no way to rEproducE it, only on PC | 22:23 |
| druupy | 2 macs, onE PC | 22:23 |
| BUGabundo | can you get a daily iso, put it onto usb and test again? | 22:24 |
| druupy | having no othr choicE i'll havE to | 22:24 |
| druupy | i was hoping this was a known bug | 22:24 |
| BUGabundo | druupy: this have been calm all week | 22:26 |
| arand | druupy: can you use onboard to produce versal e ? | 22:27 |
| druupy | ? | 22:28 |
| druupy | xplain | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | arand: he already said he can't | 22:28 |
| druupy | if you mEan virt-kb no | 22:28 |
| druupy | it won't work Eithr | 22:29 |
| arand | oh, yea saw that post just now... | 22:30 |
| druupy | http://pastebin.com/m4af48eb4 | 22:30 |
| druupy | whn I click E with xEv running | 22:30 |
| BUGabundo | what damn.. I have audio in flash if I don't put it above 50% | 22:34 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 22:34 |
| BUGabundo | 2 weeks ago I only had , if volume was above 65% | 22:34 |
| * Twigathy giggles at the 'E' problem upchannel, poor druupy c_c | 22:48 | |
| druupy | :P | 22:48 |
| Twigathy | There's a famous book which does not use the letter E at all | 22:48 |
| BUGabundo | and there we go OT again | 22:49 |
| * BUGabundo sits back and reads | 22:49 | |
| Twigathy | OT, but: http://www.spinelessbooks.com/gadsby/ :-) | 22:49 |
| Twigathy | In other news: I saw a kernel update just a few days back, should really test that blkid CPU time munching bug ... | 22:50 |
| BUGabundo | yesteday I think | 22:50 |
| mrwes | !ot | 22:50 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! | 22:50 |
| BUGabundo | or two days ago | 22:51 |
| mrwes | :P | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | now you are tanting us Bill? | 22:51 |
| Twigathy | mrwes: *grin* will bear that in mind next time ;) | 22:51 |
| mrwes | me? | 22:51 |
| mrwes | heh | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-karmic-grub2 | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | Grub2 as default | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | WOOT | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | " Karmic +1 to drop grub 1?" | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | change menu.lst in grub 1 - with zero timeout and chainload grub2 | 22:53 |
| Twigathy | Any big advantages of grub2 over grub1? | 22:54 |
| Twigathy | ooo, EFI booting... might have to stuff ubuntu back on the mac.. | 22:55 |
| BUGabundo | - currently grub cannot boot from /boot for LVM, needs to use lilo. | 22:56 |
| BUGabundo | - check if grub2 can boot /boot LVM - and hence remove the need for the lilo on ISO | 22:56 |
| Twigathy | ahha. | 22:56 |
| Twigathy | So long as I can keep my initramfs-tools 'boot=nfs' and hack up menu.lst every kernel update I'm cool with anything =) | 22:56 |
| BUGabundo | * grub2 EFI/UEFI | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | Mac and x86 PC with EFI support needs checking | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | user holds key - e.g. press shift shows menu, otherwise just continue boot process | 22:59 |
| BUGabundo | here is one *we* will have to explain to every single user coming by | 22:59 |
| Twigathy | "Why can't I press escape any more?!" | 23:00 |
| BUGabundo | better get a factoid ready and have bot auto replying to it | 23:00 |
| Twigathy | hehe | 23:00 |
| BUGabundo | eheh Twigathy right | 23:00 |
| Twigathy | Maybe it'd be worth having esc. as a key you can hit as well as holding shift to save some pain ;) | 23:00 |
| BUGabundo | but really why change from a very well known to key to an unespected one ? | 23:00 |
| Twigathy | Goodness knows | 23:00 |
| bruce89 | hello anyway | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | hey bruce | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | welcome | 23:03 |
| bruce89 | hola | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | remmeber: NO OT | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | eeh | 23:03 |
| bruce89 | of course, I'll behave | 23:03 |
| mrwes | Karmic won't mount a DVD | 23:03 |
| mrwes | [ 5789.917332] hal-storage-mou[7889]: segfault at 0 ip 0804a9f2 sp bfd45d00 error 4 in hal-storage-mount[8048000+7000] | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | mrwes: ROFL | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | that's just your Disc | 23:03 |
| mrwes | sigh | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | or the gvpau bug | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | my log is filled with that | 23:03 |
| mrwes | uh? | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | and all devs are at UDS | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | bruce89: fill free to PVT mt | 23:04 |
| mrwes | sigh | 23:04 |
| mrwes | needed to handbrake a DVD | 23:04 |
| mrwes | guess not | 23:04 |
| mrwes | guess I can do it from the server | 23:05 |
| mrwes | with vobcopy | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | mrwes: also bad news: no more vobcopy on KK | 23:06 |
| mrwes | WTF? | 23:06 |
| mrwes | come on! you're kiddin' right? | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | check packages | 23:06 |
| mrwes | heh..it's there | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | dropped | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | mrwes: because you upgrade | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | no longer in archive | 23:06 |
| mrwes | ahh | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | *upgraded | 23:07 |
| mrwes | can I backport ? | 23:07 |
| maxb | BUGabundo: Huh? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vobcopy | 23:08 |
| BUGabundo | sure you can | 23:08 |
| BUGabundo | but if upstream dropped (or debian) for some reason | 23:08 |
| BUGabundo | maxb: or maybe me my memory is playing tricks on me | 23:08 |
| kklimonda | it is | 23:08 |
| BUGabundo | I know at least on DVD copying program was on my to remove list | 23:08 |
| mrwes | hrmm | 23:09 |
| mrwes | I can always vobcopy from my server | 23:09 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: it is what? | 23:09 |
| mrwes | since I can't mount a DVD on KK | 23:10 |
| mrwes | er | 23:10 |
| kklimonda | it [your memory] is playing tricks on you ;) | 23:10 |
| mrwes | I might have to put Jaunty back on then | 23:10 |
| mrwes | for real | 23:10 |
| mrwes | weird, the DVD lable shows up, but it's not mounted | 23:11 |
| mrwes | unknown error | 23:12 |
| bruce89 | best be off before I get banned | 23:13 |
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| BUGabundo | humm newer kerner or NM, is making my 3G much better YAY | 23:14 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: does it mean you will fight me to the first blood over C-sharp? ;D | 23:22 |
| BUGabundo | never | 23:22 |
| BUGabundo | I'm not a Code lover | 23:23 |
| kklimonda | :) | 23:23 |
| kklimonda | well, I'm a python lover myself but I can appreciate C# as a language for Linux.. well, Vala would be better.. | 23:24 |
| BUGabundo | so do MONO | 23:24 |
| BUGabundo | its FOSS | 23:24 |
| kklimonda | well, when I say C# I think Mono :) | 23:26 |
| BUGabundo | TORLFNGFE | 23:27 |
| kklimonda | sure.. what? :D | 23:28 |
| BUGabundo | just remembered | 23:40 |
| BUGabundo | Ubuntu policy is to have a *single* prog for each use | 23:40 |
| BUGabundo | but how will they integrate gwibber? | 23:41 |
| BUGabundo | akgraner: care to join in ? | 23:41 |
| BUGabundo | since we already have a client for IMing that handles µblogging | 23:41 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: pidgin doesn't handle ublogging in default setup | 23:42 |
| kklimonda | i think ;) | 23:42 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: also i hope we'll switch to empathy | 23:42 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: sure it does | 23:43 |
| BUGabundo | jaiku and idenica /laconica have xmpp bots | 23:43 |
| kklimonda | also gwibber has ugly interface :/ | 23:44 |
| DanaG | I don't like empathy, because I can't use the Windows Pidgin with its logs. =þ | 23:44 |
| DanaG | I like to have my logs work for both OSes. | 23:44 |
| kklimonda | true, i'm comparing all tools to twitterriffic | 23:44 |
| kklimonda | DanaG: Logs are the reason I've switched to google talk | 23:44 |
| kklimonda | it keeps them on server :) | 23:44 |
| kklimonda | empathy has nice VoIP support | 23:45 |
| kklimonda | well, *any* support is better than none at all ;) | 23:45 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: my pidgin talks over gtalk are also on the server | 23:47 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: that's why I like it - I can use any client on any OS and all my logs are stored on server. :) | 23:47 |
| maxb | Purely ooi, what piece of software creates the /tmp/virtual-<user>.<XXXXXX> directories ? | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | kdepim ? | 23:56 |
| maxb | Nope, no KDE stuff installed here, pure GNOME | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | can't track it | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | anything usefull on the name? | 23:58 |
| BUGabundo | or is it just a mktemp file? | 23:58 |
| BUGabundo | no time that can be matched on the logs? | 23:58 |
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