[00:21] <BUGabundo> guud evening
[00:33] <bencrisford1> hey BUGabundo :)
[00:33] <BUGabundo> yelloww bencrisford1
[00:33] <bencrisford1> im just heading off i think
[00:34] <bencrisford1> half midnight in the UK
[00:34] <BUGabundo> good sleep then
[00:34] <BUGabundo> here too, just caching up
[00:35] <bencrisford1> ok :)
[00:35] <bencrisford1> ty
[01:28] <MTecknology> Where's the page for reporting X errors?
[01:30] <micahg> MTecknology: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging
[01:31] <BUGabundo> MTecknology: $ ubuntu-bug xorg
[01:31] <MTecknology> thanks
[01:40] <BUGabundo> well time for bed! cu tomorrow
[03:13] <micahg> cd ..
[03:13] <micahg> oops
[03:37] <kwall> Bug 380343: "i'm using ubuntu 9.04 (this version really sucks)"
[03:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 380343 in ubuntu "windows inactive themselves when i dont move the mouse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/380343
[03:42] <micahg> kwall: how can we help you?
[03:42] <kwall> micahg: not asking for help, just amusing myself with that comment in a bug report I'm triaging
[03:43] <kwall> sorry, didn't intend to mislead
[03:43] <micahg> kwall: I've seen worse
[03:44] <kwall> micahg: I'm sure. I've only been at this for 6 days
[03:44] <micahg> :)
[03:44] <micahg> I"m saying, that's pretty tame
[03:44] <kwall> Seem much worse at $day_job
[03:44] <kwall> seen, even
[03:44] <micahg> in terms of disgruntled
[03:46] <kwall> I don't have a good feel for Jaunty's reception relative to previous releases.
[03:47] <micahg> well, some people love it
[03:47] <micahg> and some people hate it
[03:48] <kwall> It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.
[03:53] <micahg> kwall: thanks for the help
[03:54] <kwall> micahg: My pleasure.
[03:55] <micahg> If you'd like to see disgruntled: bug 378134 :)
[03:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 378134 in firefox "hijacking" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/378134
[03:59] <kwall> Yikes.
[04:06] <micahg> kwall: 40 bugs in 6 days, nice
[04:06] <kwall> that 5-a-day thing
[04:07] <micahg> yep, that's great
[04:08] <micahg> If we can double the 5 a day participants, we could probably work on clearing out the backlog of bugs
[04:11] <kwall> I was looking at the bug count and it seems high
[04:12] <micahg> why does it seem high?
[04:12] <kwall> Oh, because I like open bug counts that approach 0 :)
[04:13] <micahg> ah, so do I
[04:13] <micahg> Maybe you'd like to adopt a pacakge?
[04:13] <micahg> *package?
[04:15] <micahg> You might be able to get new bugs on a package to 0
[04:15] <micahg> is there an app that you know well?
[04:16] <kwall> micahg: "well" is subjective, of course
[04:16] <micahg> yes :)
[04:16] <kwall> I'm thinking...
[04:16] <micahg> or one you would like to know better
[04:17] <kwall> One i'd like to know better -- rhythmbox
[04:17] <kwall> Prolly has an adopter
[04:18] <micahg> kwall: I think they can use some help: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox
[04:18] <micahg> a little help at least
[04:19] <kwall> Ouch. 385
[04:19] <micahg> well, a lot are triaged
[04:19] <kwall> so I see
[04:19] <micahg> only about 100 that need help
[04:19] <micahg> or might need help
[04:20] <kwall> Lemme ponder this and check back a little later.
[04:20] <kwall> Time for the post-prandial walk.
[04:22] <micahg> ok
[04:26] <micahg> kwall: check this page out for mentors to help you learn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors
[04:58] <kwall> micahg: thanks for the tip
[05:09] <kwall> biab
[06:16] <micahg> ping hggdh
[13:47] <askand> Anyone here familiar with bug 314212 ?
[13:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 314212 in python-apt "Apport unable to report crash -  urlopen error timed out" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314212
[13:47] <askand> It is marked as fixed but it's not
[13:47] <askand> I can reproduce the bug 100% with a big report
[13:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 100 in rosetta "uploading po file overwrites authors list" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100
[13:49] <kklimonda> askand: how big is big report?
[13:49] <askand> kklimonda: 74 mb
[13:49] <kklimonda> whoa, that's really big :)
[13:50] <askand> firefox ;)
[13:51] <kklimonda> I'm not sure if it is the same bug..
[13:51] <askand> I get the error message Apport unable to report crash -  urlopen error timed out
[13:51] <askand> with small reports too, but not every time
[13:51] <thekorn> askand: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[13:52] <askand> thekorn: im on jaunty
[13:56] <thekorn> askand: hmm, that's not good, as far as I remember this issue has been 'solved' by not setting a timeout on client side anymore
[13:56] <askand> hm strange
[13:57] <thekorn> askand: so either some python module sets a timeout, and does this the wrong way
[13:58] <thekorn> or it is completely unrelated to this,
[13:58] <askand> thekorn: is there any way I can check what happens "behind the scenes" when I submit the report?
[13:59] <thekorn> askand: hmm, no I don't think so
[14:00] <askand> thekorn: perhaps I can upload the crash file somewhere and you can try to submit it?
[14:02] <thekorn> askand: ok, but I cannot do it right now, bad bandwidth here
[14:03] <askand> thekorn: ok
[14:04] <askand> heh, hard to upload when firefox crashes all the time
[14:56] <xteejx> Afternoon guys!
[15:25] <greg-g> this is pretty tight: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-qa/2009-May/000479.html
[15:30] <bdmurray> greg-g: that email was cut short in the archive
[15:32] <greg-g> bdmurray: oh it was, I didn't even notice (multi-tasking in a session).
[15:33] <greg-g> For people looking here: thekorn implemented an idea from UDS already. It opens apport-collect/ubuntu-bug when a user clicks on the "report a bug" button in LP. this way we get all of the logs/etc that apport gives us.  Video here: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/174479/apport_adoption.ogv
[15:33] <greg-g> obviously, it is a proof of concept
[15:42] <xteejx> bdmurray, Hi Brian. Haen't had a chance to thank you for approving my Bug Control application the other week because of the all-hands meeting. So thanks for putting it through :)
[15:42] <xteejx> If I can be of any help to anyone just give me a buzz
[15:43] <xteejx> !info dmsetup
[15:43] <ubot4> xteejx: dmsetup (source: devmapper): The Linux Kernel Device Mapper userspace library. In component main, is important. Version 2:1.02.27-4ubuntu5 (jaunty), package size 40 kB, installed size 156 kB
[15:44] <bencrisford1> xteejx: What an intrigueing bot!  Does it work for every package?
[15:45] <bencrisford1> !info gedit
[15:45] <ubot4> bencrisford1: gedit (source: gedit): official text editor of the GNOME desktop environment. In component main, is optional. Version 2.26.1-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 589 kB, installed size 2016 kB
[15:46] <bencrisford1> !info gaim
[15:46] <ubot4> bencrisford1: Package gaim does not exist in jaunty
[15:46] <bencrisford1> !info pidgin
[15:46] <ubot4> bencrisford1: pidgin (source: pidgin): graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.5.5-1ubuntu8 (jaunty), package size 554 kB, installed size 1724 kB
[15:46] <bencrisford1> that is impressive :)
[15:47] <xteejx> greg-g, that would be a great addition to Ubuntu, is it blueprinted for Karmic??
[15:48] <xteejx> bencrisford1, it has plenty of features
[15:48] <xteejx> !help
[15:48] <greg-g> xteejx: I don't think there is a blueprint for this specific idea, but in general we are working towards increasing the usage of ubuntu-bug and apport-collect
[15:48] <ubot4> Hi! I'm #ubuntu-bugs's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:48] <bencrisford1> wow
[15:49] <xteejx> greg-g, it would definitely help with the bug reporting, especially with a few more apport hooks, would save a LOT of messing around
[15:50] <xteejx> bencrisford1 :)
[15:50] <greg-g> xteejx: indeed.
[15:52] <xteejx> greg-g, is there any rough timescale for when this will be implemented yet? or is it a "as and when"?
[15:55] <bencrisford1> xteejx: Would you mind reviewing my bug control application please?  Its just - i sent it a few weeks ago now, and im only waiting for one more response
[15:55] <bencrisford1> im scared it got lost :(
[15:56] <xteejx> bencrisford1, I only got approved myself 2 weeks ago so more than likely I missed it. Maybe give brian (bdmurray) a nudge or leave him a message in case he's busy at UDS, I'm sure he'll be able to update you on the progress. :)
[15:56] <bencrisford1> Well, I know where my app is in the archive
[15:57] <xteejx> I still don't think I'd be allowed to approve an application that came through before my own.
[15:57] <hggdh> xteejx, yes, you are allowed to
[15:57] <xteejx> hggdh, ah ok, ps heyyy
[15:57] <hggdh> cheers, xteejx and bencrisford1
[15:58] <xteejx> i've only seen one app, is it komputes?
[15:58] <xteejx> hggdh, hows it going anyway?
[15:58] <bencrisford1> xteejx: well if you get a chance :) - https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bugcontrol/msg00255.html
[15:59] <hggdh> xteejx, quite busy offline, unfortunately... some serious personal thingies came up. But still alive and kicking
[15:59] <xteejx> bencrisford1, I'll have a look within the next 10 mins, as soon as hggdh tells me how to reply, is it ubuntu-bugcontrol.lists@launchpad.net ??
[15:59] <xteejx> hggdh, ouch...i been kinda busy as well, different reasons
[16:00] <bencrisford1> ubuntu-bugcontrol@lists.launchpad.net
[16:00] <bencrisford1> and CC to ben@freeyourpc.tk please :)
[16:00]  * bdmurray is quite busy at uds
[16:00] <xteejx> sorry brian
[16:01] <xteejx> bencrisford1, I'll have a look now
[16:01] <hggdh> xteejx, ubuntu-bugsquad@lists.ubuntu.com, and CC Ben
[16:01] <xteejx> hggdh, do i just put my two cents in and reply the message back?
[16:01] <hggdh> xteejx, yes, this is the usual -- like what I did with your application
[16:01] <xteejx> oh yeah hehe :)
[16:01] <bencrisford1> hggdh: I sent my application to ubuntu-bugcontrol@lists.launchpad.net
[16:02] <bencrisford1> should he not reply to there?
[16:02] <hggdh> xteejx, bencrisford1 sorry, yes, ubuntu-bugcontrol@l.l.n
[16:02] <xteejx> yup yup :_
[16:02] <xteejx> doing it now
[16:03] <bencrisford1> ok :), ty
[16:11] <xteejx> bencrisford1, wont be much longer hehe
[16:11] <bencrisford1> ok, cheers :)
[16:14]  * Laibsch is looking for help in triaging bug 334957
[16:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 334957 in linux "Mouse begins to drift left under heavy wifi load (shared IRQ problem?)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/334957
[16:14] <bencrisford1> Laibsch: Ill giv ya a hand
[16:15] <Laibsch> cool, thanks
[16:15] <Laibsch> are you familiar with shared IRQ and stuff?
[16:15] <bencrisford1> not really :/
[16:15] <Laibsch> I assume it's some kind of kernel issue
[16:15] <Laibsch> well, I think it's a fairly tough nut to crack
[16:16] <bencrisford1> yah
[16:16] <Laibsch> It's not the standard "please provide the output of lspci" kind of thing
[16:16] <bencrisford1> Well his/her distrorelease would be start
[16:17] <Laibsch> Jaunty
[16:17] <Laibsch> It's my own report
[16:18] <bencrisford1> oh
[16:18] <bencrisford1> well it is important to include distrorelease in all reports :)
[16:18] <bencrisford1> but dw if you forget
[16:18] <bencrisford1> because the nice people from the bugs teams will be there to remind you
[16:19] <bencrisford1> :)
[16:20] <Laibsch> Yes, added the missing info
[16:20] <bencrisford1> nice one :D
[16:20] <xteejx> all done ben
[16:20] <Laibsch> But I did mention that this problem before I moved away from Hardy
[16:21] <Laibsch> But I did mention that this problem existed before I moved away from Hardy
[16:21] <Laibsch> So, it was a problem on Hardy
[16:21] <xteejx> shared irq setting, bios problem or RFI
[16:21] <bencrisford1> oh. ok
[16:21] <xteejx> one of the 3
[16:21] <Laibsch> And it was still a problem on either Intrepid or Jaunty (one could infer that))
[16:21] <Laibsch> xteejx: rfi?
[16:22] <Laibsch> BIOS is up-to-date for an X24
[16:22] <xteejx> radio frequency interference from the wifi
[16:22] <xteejx> coes it occur under any other OS?
[16:22] <Laibsch> I guess I should include that info in my LP profile, I've posted that so many times now ;-)
[16:22] <xteejx> ;)
[16:22] <Laibsch> I really only use Ubuntu ;-)
[16:23] <Laibsch> But I could try out Windows one of these days
[16:23] <xteejx> you using Jaunty?
[16:23] <Laibsch> Yes
[16:23] <Laibsch> One of the other days I was told that the IRQ interrupt count was definitely too high
[16:23] <Laibsch> indicating a problem
[16:24] <xteejx> have you done apport-collect -p linux-image-`uname -r` <bug#> ?#
[16:24] <Laibsch> no
[16:25] <Laibsch> But what information is missing?
[16:25] <xteejx> can you do that and let it pull in all the info that you may be asked?
[16:25] <Laibsch> OK
[16:25] <xteejx> it wil do all the lspci and all the other stuff automatically
[16:25] <Laibsch> I guess I was asking for help in triaging ;-)
[16:25] <xteejx> bencrisford1, take note ;)
[16:25] <xteejx> hehe
[16:25] <Laibsch> I'll do that in a minute
[16:25] <xteejx> ok
[16:26] <Laibsch> I wonder if it is possible to read out the BIOS version from the booted system
[16:26] <Laibsch>  /proc/$something?
[16:26] <bencrisford1> xteejx: Of what?
[16:26] <Laibsch> of apport-collect
[16:26] <Laibsch> ^^
[16:26] <xteejx> bencrisford, kernel reporting isues and jaunty with apport-collect hooks to save yourself some time :)
[16:27] <bencrisford1> Ive read about them before, but with all the packaging stuff im reading im forgetting alot
[16:27] <xteejx> the preferred method in jaunty and jaunty+1
[16:27] <bencrisford1> i might go back other the docs one day
[16:27] <bencrisford1> soon
[16:27] <bencrisford1> refresh my knowledge :)
[16:27] <xteejx> theres plenty of stuff on the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[16:27] <bencrisford1> ok, ill do that as soon as i get the chance :)
[16:27] <xteejx> thats kinda the first place you should go for real hardware problems
[16:28] <Laibsch> I'd really like to try out a vanilla kernel one of these days
[16:28] <xteejx> also have you seen the Debugging Procedures for the most common problems?
[16:28] <xteejx> Laibsch, good luck!!
[16:29] <xteejx> bencrisford1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[16:30] <bencrisford1> ooh, thanks :)
[16:33] <xteejx> no probs :)
[16:33]  * Laibsch is waiting for all the off-topic comments now that I have run apport-collect
[16:34] <Laibsch> like "why is it that ...?"
[16:35] <Laibsch> I'm still looking for somebody who understands this IRQ stuff to help with triaging.  I don't think the essential is not among what apport-collect collected
[16:36] <xteejx> apport won't be able to collect irq data, and to be honest i'm prety unsure about that myself, sorry
[16:36] <xteejx> if you could get a few photos of your bios setup, irq settings included it might help if you attach them to the bug report
[16:39] <Laibsch> I'll do that in a minute, more poking in the dark, but maybe we'll eventually stab something
[16:39] <Laibsch> xteejx: Are you familiar with compiling a kernel?
[16:40] <Laibsch> I've done it a few times, but I want to package it
[16:40] <xteejx> Laibsch, I'm not, no
[16:40] <Laibsch> Alright
[16:40] <Laibsch> I want to kind of "automate" the process of building packages from git or other VCS sources
[16:50] <xteejx> Laibsch, if you know how to do this, then great, maybe speak to MOTU team to get it into Ubuntu if its stable enough, or maybe they could use it?
[16:51] <Laibsch> well, no I don't
[16:51] <Laibsch> That's why I'm asking
[16:51] <Laibsch> And I'm not sure this if for mass consumption
[16:52] <xteejx> Laibsch, speak to MOTU team, they're the ones who know all this kind of stuff :)
[16:52] <Laibsch> You usually don't want to package non-point releases
[16:52] <Laibsch> Need to try out what I've done before
[16:52] <Laibsch> to know where I'm stuck ;-)
[17:12] <hggdh> Laibsch, you can always package to a PPA, and announce it to be tested
[17:12] <Laibsch> hggdh: thank you for the suggestion, that is not where I'm stuck
[17:12] <micahg> hi hggdh
[17:12] <hggdh> hi micahg
[17:12] <Laibsch> I'm stuck at regularly and conveneniently packaging stuff from a git upstream
[17:13] <Laibsch> to name a sample VCS
[17:13] <micahg> Laibsch: LP just added a git import to LP
[17:13] <Laibsch> Oh, did they?
[17:13] <Laibsch> Nice
[17:13]  * Laibsch takes a look
[17:13] <micahg> Yesterday :)
[17:13] <hggdh> Laibsch, you will need a get-orig-source on your ./debian/rules
[17:13] <Laibsch> Oh, I guess that is the same as the existing bzr import?
[17:14] <Laibsch> hggdh: Do you have an example?
[17:14] <micahg> I think so, and svn and cvs import
[17:14]  * Laibsch thinks learning by example is best
[17:14] <hggdh> Laibsch, see http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi/Svn_get-orig-source as an example
[17:14] <Laibsch> cool, thanks
[17:14]  * hggdh also learns by example ;-)
[17:15] <Laibsch> looks exactly like what I was looking for
[17:15] <hggdh> Laibsch, you can also see the libpst package for an example (where I get the source, and change it)
[17:16] <Laibsch> nice!
[17:16] <Laibsch> thanks
[17:16] <hggdh> Laibsch, pull-lp-source libpst
[17:16] <Laibsch> Have been waiting for this for months
[17:17]  * micahg still has stuff to learn from hggdh
[17:17] <micahg> maybe I should add myself back as a student  :)
[17:17] <bencrisford1> xteejx: I'm assuming you are Roy Jamison.  If you are - thank you :D
[17:18] <xteejx> bencrisford1, Yes, thats me, xteejx on here and LP :)
[17:19] <xteejx> I didnt realise i dotted all parts of the email address, forgot the @ sign lol did wonder why it wouldn't send..... :)
[17:20] <bencrisford1> How many +1s do I need?
[17:20] <bencrisford1> is it 2?
[17:23] <bencrisford1> hggdh:: Is it two +1s for me to get membership?
[17:23] <charlie-tca> bencrisford1: plus bdmurray's okay
[17:24] <bencrisford1> Ok, I just need that then =S
[17:25] <bencrisford1> ty
[17:29] <thekorn>  /win 10
[17:31] <xteejx> hey charlie-tca, thekorn :)
[17:37] <charlie-tca> Hello, xteejx
[17:38] <xteejx> charlie-tca, Hows the bug hunt going?
[17:39] <charlie-tca> kinda slow. I am behind
[17:44] <thekorn> hey xteejx
[17:44] <xteejx> lol charlie :)
[17:44] <xteejx> i'm always slow
[17:44] <xteejx> and hi korn
[17:54] <bencrisford1> what command would find my sound card
[17:54] <bencrisford1> ?
[17:54] <bencrisford1> would lspci do it?
[17:56] <xteejx> lspci yeah
[17:57] <xteejx> bencrisford1, if ever i'm here and you need a hand just say my name so my osd pops up, as i'm not always watching the channel
[17:58] <bencrisford1> ok ty
[18:00] <hggdh> bencrisford1, yes, +2 is the necessary approval
[18:00] <hggdh> plus, of course, Brian's blessings ;-)
[18:01] <xteejx> you got a +1 from me
[18:01] <hggdh> Ben already had another +1 (and a +0 from me, if I remember correctly)
[18:01] <xteejx> lol ok
[18:02] <bencrisford1> yeah, thats right :)
[18:02] <hggdh> (sorry about that one, but I try to be fair)
[18:02]  * bencrisford1 thinks brians eating dinner with liw atm
[18:02] <bencrisford1> from his observations of #ubuntu-devel-summit
[18:02]  * xteejx thinks brian is at UDS ;)
[18:02] <hggdh> he is
[18:02] <bencrisford1> he is
[18:02] <bencrisford1> but hes eating dinner
[18:02] <xteejx> exactly
[18:02] <bencrisford1> at uds
[18:03] <xteejx> lol chinese takeaway ;)
[18:03] <bencrisford1> (17:35:26) liw: anyone interested in an earlyish dinner?
[18:03] <bencrisford1> (17:38:40) bdmurray: liw: I am
[18:03] <xteejx> anyway guys im off, maybe back later on catch ya later
[18:03] <bencrisford1> ok
[18:03] <bencrisford1> byw
[18:03] <xteejx> diner for me too hehe
[18:03] <xteejx> cya
[18:04]  * bencrisford1 wishes he was at UDS
[18:04]  * bencrisford1 isnt going to the ball it seems
[18:04] <bencrisford1> maybe my fairy godmother will magic me a carraige out of pumpkins :D
[18:06] <bencrisford1> hggdh: Don't worry about it :), you just looking out for the team, thats not something to be sorry for (im talkin bout the +0 btw_
[18:06] <bencrisford1> anyway gonna go eat
[18:37] <kklimonda> oh come on, Firefox crashed when I was filling bug report -.-
[18:37] <bencrisford1> :/
[18:37] <BUGabundo> hey guys
[18:38] <bencrisford1> hey
[18:38] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: so you file them via web ? LOL
[18:38] <BUGabundo> its so 2008
[18:38] <bencrisford1> haha
[18:38] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: via web or via mail - it's the same, I use gmail ;)
[18:39]  * bencrisford1 offers a fiver to anyone who gives him a membership testimonial :P
[18:42] <BUGabundo> bencrisford1: I still don't know you well enough
[18:42] <BUGabundo> ping me back in two weeks
[18:42] <bencrisford1> BUGabundo: I was only joking :P
[18:42] <bencrisford1> by fiver i meant money
[18:44] <bencrisford1> :( but i do need testimonials
[18:45] <bencrisford1> meeting next week :S
[18:45] <BUGabundo> bencrisford1: I don't want your money
[18:45] <BUGabundo> I said I would do it, and I may ....
[18:45] <BUGabundo> when I know you better
[18:45] <BUGabundo> don't feel like it to add my optionion on someone I only know for about 2w
[18:46] <bencrisford1> lol i know
[18:46] <bencrisford1> and i was joking about the money btw too
[18:47] <BUGabundo> I understood that
[18:47] <bencrisford1> oh, i just wanted to make sure
[18:47] <bencrisford1> last time i made a joke like that i got in deep crap
[18:49] <kklimonda> hey, bug squad - could you mark bug 365056 as low?
[18:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 365056 in comix "comix crashed reading .cbz with interlaced PNG" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/365056
[18:50] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: aren't you yet on bug squad?
[18:50] <BUGabundo> lol
[18:50] <BUGabundo> I guess we need both to apply
[18:50] <BUGabundo> any idea what we need?
[18:50] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: some work examples :)
[18:52] <BUGabundo> 5
[18:53] <BUGabundo> time to go
[18:53] <BUGabundo> see you guys latter
[19:06] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: there is a full list somewhere on wiki
[19:06] <bencrisford1> hes gone :(
[19:12] <kklimonda> btw, does bugs we mark as duplicates are listed somewhere?
[19:12] <kklimonda> are.. yeez..
[19:12] <kklimonda> my engrish is really bad today ;)
[19:23] <kklimonda> bug 364433
[19:23] <kklimonda> is it wishlist or low?
[19:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 364433 in empathy "IRC default settings for FreeNode have incorrect server hostname" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364433
[19:23] <kklimonda> chat.freenode.net is indeed the main address but irc.freenode.net works fine and nothing indicate that it will stop working
[19:23] <kklimonda> i guess it could be even marked as triaged..
[19:51] <kklimonda_> grr, there is something wrong with xchat - it just stops receiving messages..
[19:51] <kklimonda_> no errors, no nothing :/
 bug 364433
 is it wishlist or low?
 chat.freenode.net is indeed the main address but irc.freenode.net works fine and nothing indicate that it will stop working
 i guess it could be even marked as triaged..
[19:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 364433 in empathy "IRC default settings for FreeNode have incorrect server hostname" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364433
[20:11] <kklimonda_> can I report bugs to staging using ubuntu-bug?
[20:13] <kklimonda_> hmm.. why doesn't ubuntu-bug linux-image-generic attach dmesg ?
[20:26] <kklimonda_> looks like ubuntu-bug linux does the trick..
[20:40] <maxb> kklimonda: Probably because linux-image-generic comes from the linux-meta source package, whereas linux would be the linux source package
[20:42] <kklimonda> maxb: Yeah, I've found it out after checking usr/share/apport/package-hoots/
[20:42] <kklimonda> hooks*
[20:59] <kklimonda> any idea why are files attached to reports broken sometimes? like in bug 380935
[20:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 380935 in xulrunner-1.9 "upgrading to 9.10 fails to install xulrunner-1.9" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/380935
[21:01] <YoBoY> kklimonda: sorry to ask, but why do you think the files are broken?
[21:02] <YoBoY> ha ok, i can't extract the gz
[21:04] <maxb> I've had that happen to one of my bugs
[21:04] <maxb> My initial instinct would be to blame apport
[21:25] <BUGabundo> there goes kklimonda
[21:26] <Flare183> :/
[21:27] <BUGabundo> and now he is back
[21:27] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: as we were talking earlier
[21:27] <BUGabundo> aplication
[21:28] <BUGabundo> can anyone explian me what's the diff for bugcontrol, and ug squad?
[21:29] <kklimonda> nah, i just call bug control a bug squad ;)
[21:29] <BUGabundo> ah great
[21:30] <BUGabundo> I get everything confused
[21:33] <micahg> bug control has special abilities on LP
[21:33] <maxb> bugcontrol is the subset of bugsquad which has power to use the Triaged status and to see private apport crash bugs
[21:33] <BUGabundo> okay
[21:33] <BUGabundo> more info, more confusion
[21:33] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[21:34] <BUGabundo> so if me and kklimonda apply, it is to which one?
[21:34] <kklimonda> bug control
[21:34] <maxb> You don't apply to bugsquad, it's open membership
[21:34] <BUGabundo> ahhhh
[21:34] <BUGabundo> so anyone can be in bugsquad?
[21:34] <maxb> oh, bugcontrol can set severity too
[21:35]  * BUGabundo is thinking of getting another badge.... just kidding
[21:36]  * maxb needs to triage bugs more often, in order to apply to bugcontrol, in order to be able to better triage bugs.... :-)
[21:37] <BUGabundo> so none of us (talking now) is in bugcontrol?
[21:37] <BUGabundo> lol
[21:38]  * micahg is in bug control :)
[21:41] <BUGabundo> yay micahg
[21:41] <BUGabundo> so the good word of asac helped
[21:42] <micahg> indeed
[21:42] <YoBoY> BUGabundo: bug control control the bug squad work easy to understand :) and with all your work, you can apply to join this team perhaps :p
[21:42] <BUGabundo> YoBoY: I don't have any bug ids of my work
[21:42] <kklimonda> "EXT4-fs error (device sda2): ext4_xattr_delete_inode: inode 352605: block 11017457424589210997 read error"
[21:42] <kklimonda> heh..
[21:43] <BUGabundo> most of the times I unsub pretty fast from them
[21:43] <kklimonda> it looks like my laptop is breaking down piece after piece..
[21:43] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: reboot and fsck NOW?
[21:43] <franczen> Hi, I have a question, I hope I am in the right place
[21:43] <BUGabundo> franczen: shoot?
[21:43] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: i did already
[21:43] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: big OOPS?
[21:43] <franczen> Do any of you guys know of atheros wifi bug in jaunty?
[21:43] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: no errors, smartctl says everything is fine..
[21:44] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: not really - I was even able to work to some extent..
[21:44] <BUGabundo> YoBoY: I could search LP for bugs I commented, but that would be 2Milions lol
[21:44] <YoBoY> BUGabundo: try to find a mentor for the new/futur mentoring program :)
[21:44] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: smartctl is a lyer
[21:44] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: true
[22:06] <micahg> franczen: what type of bug
[22:30] <franczen> Any Atheros wifi issue Jaunty?
[22:30] <franczen> Does anyone have atheros ar2413?
[22:30] <maxb> Question too vague
[22:33] <franczen> Probably. But I don't know how else to put it. My atheros ar2413 stopped working since jaunty. It sees all the available networks, but can not connect.
[22:33] <franczen> Already tried ath5k (this is the default in the kernel), madwifi, ndiswrapper.
[22:34] <franczen> So I am guessing it is a new bug
[22:38] <maxb> Search for / file a bug. You'd have to be very lucky to find someone on IRC with the exact same hardward
[22:38] <maxb> *hardware
[22:40] <kmdm> franczen: Tried the linux-backports-modules-jaunty package?
[22:41] <franczen> kmdm: yes
[22:42] <BUGabundo> you seemed to have tried it all but replace HW
[22:43] <BUGabundo> I had and intel abg4965 bad plugged
[22:43] <BUGabundo> lots of kernel trouble with it
[22:43] <BUGabundo> replaced, and worked ever since
[22:43] <kmdm> franczen: ah. I guess there's always the 2.6.30-rc7 kernel...
[22:44] <franczen> kmdm: and when will that be available on ubuntu?
[22:44] <BUGabundo> its already on mainland
[22:44] <kmdm> franczen: Well, you can find packages here... http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30-rc7/ but YMMV