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=== mthaddon changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: Open for development | Karmic alpha 1 released! | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper-jaunty | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
qwerty6523helllo01:37
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hyperairdoes anyone notice that gnome-power-manager no longer recognizes the presence of notify-osd?07:13
druid_of_systemhi everyone08:03
techman2hello08:04
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chrisccoulsonhi mbiebl - you there?08:51
mbieblchrisccoulson: yeah08:52
chrisccoulsonmbiebl - i'm just looking at the changes in the tracker-store-queue branch of tracker at the moment, and now that all the crawling and monitoring is gone from tracker-store, do you intend to split tracker-indexer in to it's own separate package when the changes make it in to 0.7.0?08:54
chrisccoulsonit's possible to run tracker-store without tracker-indexer now08:54
mbieblchrisccoulson: it might be useful for people only wanting to use the metadata store08:55
mbieblwithout the indexer08:55
chrisccoulsonmbiebl - yeah, thats what i was thinking08:55
mbieblbut imho it's to early to do the split on the packaging side already08:55
mbieblas things are moving too fast atm08:55
chrisccoulsonyeah, i agree. i was just thinking about the packaging though08:56
mbieblwho knows, if it's still called tracker-store in a month ;-)08:56
chrisccoulsonmbiebl - yeah ;08:56
chrisccoulson; => ;)08:56
chrisccoulsoni think if the split stays as it is it would definately make sense to split the indexer and extractors off in to their own package, so people can run the metadata store without the indexing08:57
mbieblagreed09:00
dtchenkees: ping, i see you merged cryptsetup for karmic. can we mark bug 324871 fixed? (currently in the encrypted swap session discussing LUKS keyslots)09:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 324871 in cryptsetup "cryptsetup: Cannot delete a Keyslot from itselfs" [Unknown,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32487109:06
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TheMusoi/c09:15
bigoncould someone have a look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gucharmap/+bug/375892 ?09:28
ubottuUbuntu bug 375892 in gucharmap "-dev package has been renamed in debian" [Undecided,New]09:28
chrisccoulsonbigon - yeah, i noticed that a few days ago when i rebased gnome-applets on debian09:32
chrisccoulsoni had to adjust the build depends to get it to work09:32
bigonchrisccoulson: shouldn't be more intresting to rename the -dev package of gnucharmap?09:33
chrisccoulsonpossibly - but isn't the debian package name bogus. why would it be libgucharmap2-dev?09:33
bigonhttp://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/g/gucharmap/current/changelog09:33
chrisccoulsonwhere does the '2' come from?09:34
bigon- Rename libgucharmap-dev to libgucharmap2-dev, as the pkgconfig file09:34
bigon       has been renamed (and the /usr/include directory) and packages need09:34
bigon       porting.09:34
chrisccoulsonah, i see09:34
chrisccoulsonbigon - i suppose gucharmap should probably be rebased with debian. that hasn't happened for quite some time it seems09:37
bigonchrisccoulson: ok I will have a look at that tonight or during the weekend09:40
chrisccoulsonbigon - i don't mind doing that if you don't get a chance to do it09:40
bigonoh ok I'm quite buzy right now so no problems09:41
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fakkerhey all i need some help with usb gadget and dummy_hcd can some one help me or let me know where can i find info about them ?10:46
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siretart`fakker: see topic, use #ubuntu for user support11:08
stefanlsdwgrant: Using xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1.1.1~git20090510-1ubuntu1~wgrant1_amd64.deb and it fixes my issue with syndaemon. Do you want me to report that anywhere?11:34
wgrantstefanlsd: Here was fine.11:36
wgrantstefanlsd: Are you having any movement issues? There's a slightly problematic patch in ~wgrant1 (that I've dropped in ~wgrant2) which was never in the primary archive, but I must have inherited from tseliot's PPA.11:41
wgrantIt tends to cut out quick movements.11:42
stefanlsdwgrant: Not picking up any issues (just a basic user for stopping mousepad after typing)11:46
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nyuhi12:55
nyuI'm afraid I couldn't make it to the GRUB 2 discussion.  I have some answers to the questions in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-karmic-grub2  please tell me who should I talk to12:55
directhexnyu, cjwatson@debian was leading the talk12:56
nyudirecthex: don't see him here.  does he still IRC?12:56
directhexnyu, yes, in here as cjwatson most of the time12:57
nyukay, I'll be around12:57
directhexnyu, or he's generally around12:57
directhexafter lunch there's a session i want to go to - "Debian Relationship Healthcheck"12:57
directhexgah, out of power, down i go12:58
nyudirecthex: is Colin around IRL?12:58
nyuI'm not far from the hotel12:58
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calcScottK: can we get boost1.38 into main and kick out 1.37 ?14:18
* calc uploaded OOo using 1.38 now that it works14:19
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ion_I really hope this finally happens. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/rsync-based-deb-downloads14:40
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bedahrQuick question: whatis the policy of ubuntu on package versions? can snapshots of libraries enter the main tree?15:34
bedahrI am asking because portaudios last released version is about 2 years old and very buggy whereas current svn snapshots are quite good15:34
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sgallaghHow does one find out the owner of a package in Ubuntu?16:02
loic-msgallagh: there's no real ownership in Ubuntu16:06
LaserJocksgallagh: apt-cache show <package> | grep Maintainer16:06
sgallaghLaserJock: thank you16:07
loic-msgallagh: there's also the changelog in case the package is maintained by a team (like MOTU) but you want to see who uploaded the pkg16:07
calcScottK: boost1.38 now in main :)16:31
calcScottK: time to migrate everything over to it and through out 1.34/1.35/1.37 ;-)16:32
calcer throw16:32
ScottKcalc: Excellent.  I have to write the mail to ubuntu-devel-announce.16:32
calcOOo is already done and just waiting for boost to be available (depwait atm)16:33
directhexcalc, what's wrong with maintaining 4 versions of boost?16:34
calcdirecthex: heh funny ;-)16:35
calcScottK: is anything in main still using 1.35?16:37
ScottKYes16:37
ScottKcalc: KDE still.16:37
calcok16:37
calcoh i see16:37
ScottKI didn't want to move twice.16:37
calcis there a way to show all reverse build-depends with apt-cache (or something similar?16:38
sistpoty|workcalc: build-rdeps of devscripts perhaps?16:41
sgallaghjelmer: Are you the package maintainer for libldb-dev still?16:42
jelmersgallagh, hi16:42
jelmersgallagh, yeah16:42
jelmerIn Debian that is16:42
sgallaghjelmer: I'm trying to assist someone in porting the SSSD to Debian/Ubuntu, but I'm having some trouble with the libldb-dev package. It includes an ldb_includes.h file that is looking for files from libreplace, but that doesn't seem to be packaged (or marked as a dependency)16:44
jelmersgallagh: We need to do a new release upstream I think before Simo's daemon can be packaged16:45
jelmersgallagh, Is it already packaged in Fedora?16:45
sgallaghjelmer: Yes16:45
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jelmersgallagh: So, we'll have to package a new upstream version but there's only snapshots atm16:46
sgallaghjelmer: What do you need (from us, from samba, etc.) to do that?16:47
jelmersgallagh, time, mainly :-)16:48
jelmersgallagh, Ideally I should coordinate with Simo on a new ldb release upstream16:48
sgallaghjelmer: The other question I wanted to ask was why there is a separate libldb-samba-4.0-dev package, and why it's both incomplete and has a .pc file that lies. :)16:49
jelmersgallagh: It's there because Samba 4 contains a different version of ldb16:50
jelmersgallagh, the stock version doesn't work with it16:50
jelmersgallagh, I think in Fedora that one is build statically16:50
sgallaghah16:50
sgallaghok, so is there anything I can do to help move along this upstream release (aside from pestering simo)?16:51
jelmersgallagh, the other two issues you mention are upstream bugs that we've since fixed but haven't been packaged yet16:51
jelmersgallagh, Simo and I worked together on this; we've done standalone releases for tdb, talloc and tevent but not for ldb yet16:52
jelmersgallagh, (I'm upstream as well)16:52
sgallaghjelmer: Ok, thank you for your help. Let me know if there's anything I can do.16:53
calcsistpoty|work: ok thanks16:54
sistpoty|worknp ;)16:55
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baba_hello17:34
baba_there is someone that can help me modify some things in ubiquity?17:35
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kblinhi folks18:20
kblinis here a tool to make ubuntu join a krb5-domain? I'm trying to come up with an automated way to make samba join an active directory18:21
sgallaghkblin: winbind is meant for this purpose18:24
kblinno18:24
kblinI'm talking about setting up krb5.conf, nsswitch.conf and stuff18:24
kblinwinbind doesn't change config files18:24
Awsoonnis there a way to tell pbuiler to use multiple cpus while building? it seems that it is only using one cpu currently.18:25
sgallaghkblin: authconfig18:25
kblinsgallagh: what I was wondering if there's an established (GUI) tool to take care of this18:25
Adri2000kblin: likewise-open?18:25
siretart`wrong channel, in any case18:26
Adri2000right18:26
kblinAdri2000: well, that's what I want to replace18:26
sgallaghkblin: Try authconfig18:26
kblinAdri2000: I want to use samba technology, not likewise technology18:26
kblinsgallagh: looking at it18:26
kblinsgallagh: what packet is that in?18:28
sgallaghkblin: I take that back. It may not be available in Ubuntu18:29
kblinok, if there's no one way to do it (tm), I can just come up with my own.. just checking there wasn't an established way I wasn't aware of18:34
kblinthanks18:35
sgallaghkblin: Well, authconfig would be The Right Way(tm), but it looks like no-one's bothered to package it for Ubuntu18:40
kblinsgallagh: well, I can do it the likewise-open way18:41
kblinjust overwrite the config files with my settings18:41
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maxbBefore DebianImportFreeze, do syncs from Debian unstable happen by cron, or archive admins manually poking something every so often?21:54
gesermaxb: IIRC by an archive-admin using a script or so21:59
maxbLP bug watch has just notified me of a bug fixed in debian, I need to remind myself to go back and verify the ubuntu task on a bug once the next sync happens22:01
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