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[01:37] <qwerty6523> helllo
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[07:13] <hyperair> does anyone notice that gnome-power-manager no longer recognizes the presence of notify-osd?
[08:03] <druid_of_system> hi everyone
[08:04] <techman2> hello
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[08:51] <chrisccoulson> hi mbiebl - you there?
[08:52] <mbiebl> chrisccoulson: yeah
[08:54] <chrisccoulson> mbiebl - i'm just looking at the changes in the tracker-store-queue branch of tracker at the moment, and now that all the crawling and monitoring is gone from tracker-store, do you intend to split tracker-indexer in to it's own separate package when the changes make it in to 0.7.0?
[08:54] <chrisccoulson> it's possible to run tracker-store without tracker-indexer now
[08:55] <mbiebl> chrisccoulson: it might be useful for people only wanting to use the metadata store
[08:55] <mbiebl> without the indexer
[08:55] <chrisccoulson> mbiebl - yeah, thats what i was thinking
[08:55] <mbiebl> but imho it's to early to do the split on the packaging side already
[08:55] <mbiebl> as things are moving too fast atm
[08:56] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i agree. i was just thinking about the packaging though
[08:56] <mbiebl> who knows, if it's still called tracker-store in a month ;-)
[08:56] <chrisccoulson> mbiebl - yeah ;
[08:56] <chrisccoulson> ; => ;)
[08:57] <chrisccoulson> i think if the split stays as it is it would definately make sense to split the indexer and extractors off in to their own package, so people can run the metadata store without the indexing
[09:00] <mbiebl> agreed
[09:06] <dtchen> kees: ping, i see you merged cryptsetup for karmic. can we mark bug 324871 fixed? (currently in the encrypted swap session discussing LUKS keyslots)
[09:06] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 324871 in cryptsetup "cryptsetup: Cannot delete a Keyslot from itselfs" [Unknown,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/324871
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[09:15] <TheMuso> i/c
[09:28] <bigon> could someone have a look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gucharmap/+bug/375892 ?
[09:28] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 375892 in gucharmap "-dev package has been renamed in debian" [Undecided,New]
[09:32] <chrisccoulson> bigon - yeah, i noticed that a few days ago when i rebased gnome-applets on debian
[09:32] <chrisccoulson> i had to adjust the build depends to get it to work
[09:33] <bigon> chrisccoulson: shouldn't be more intresting to rename the -dev package of gnucharmap?
[09:33] <chrisccoulson> possibly - but isn't the debian package name bogus. why would it be libgucharmap2-dev?
[09:33] <bigon> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/g/gucharmap/current/changelog
[09:34] <chrisccoulson> where does the '2' come from?
[09:34] <bigon> - Rename libgucharmap-dev to libgucharmap2-dev, as the pkgconfig file
[09:34] <bigon>        has been renamed (and the /usr/include directory) and packages need
[09:34] <bigon>        porting.
[09:34] <chrisccoulson> ah, i see
[09:37] <chrisccoulson> bigon - i suppose gucharmap should probably be rebased with debian. that hasn't happened for quite some time it seems
[09:40] <bigon> chrisccoulson: ok I will have a look at that tonight or during the weekend
[09:40] <chrisccoulson> bigon - i don't mind doing that if you don't get a chance to do it
[09:41] <bigon> oh ok I'm quite buzy right now so no problems
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[10:46] <fakker> hey all i need some help with usb gadget and dummy_hcd can some one help me or let me know where can i find info about them ?
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[11:08] <siretart`> fakker: see topic, use #ubuntu for user support
[11:34] <stefanlsd> wgrant: Using xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1.1.1~git20090510-1ubuntu1~wgrant1_amd64.deb and it fixes my issue with syndaemon. Do you want me to report that anywhere?
[11:36] <wgrant> stefanlsd: Here was fine.
[11:41] <wgrant> stefanlsd: Are you having any movement issues? There's a slightly problematic patch in ~wgrant1 (that I've dropped in ~wgrant2) which was never in the primary archive, but I must have inherited from tseliot's PPA.
[11:42] <wgrant> It tends to cut out quick movements.
[11:46] <stefanlsd> wgrant: Not picking up any issues (just a basic user for stopping mousepad after typing)
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[12:55] <nyu> hi
[12:55] <nyu> I'm afraid I couldn't make it to the GRUB 2 discussion.  I have some answers to the questions in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-karmic-grub2  please tell me who should I talk to
[12:56] <directhex> nyu, cjwatson@debian was leading the talk
[12:56] <nyu> directhex: don't see him here.  does he still IRC?
[12:57] <directhex> nyu, yes, in here as cjwatson most of the time
[12:57] <nyu> kay, I'll be around
[12:57] <directhex> nyu, or he's generally around
[12:57] <directhex> after lunch there's a session i want to go to - "Debian Relationship Healthcheck"
[12:58] <directhex> gah, out of power, down i go
[12:58] <nyu> directhex: is Colin around IRL?
[12:58] <nyu> I'm not far from the hotel
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[14:18] <calc> ScottK: can we get boost1.38 into main and kick out 1.37 ?
[14:19]  * calc uploaded OOo using 1.38 now that it works
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[14:40] <ion_> I really hope this finally happens. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/rsync-based-deb-downloads
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[15:34] <bedahr> Quick question: whatis the policy of ubuntu on package versions? can snapshots of libraries enter the main tree?
[15:34] <bedahr> I am asking because portaudios last released version is about 2 years old and very buggy whereas current svn snapshots are quite good
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[16:02] <sgallagh> How does one find out the owner of a package in Ubuntu?
[16:06] <loic-m> sgallagh: there's no real ownership in Ubuntu
[16:06] <LaserJock> sgallagh: apt-cache show <package> | grep Maintainer
[16:07] <sgallagh> LaserJock: thank you
[16:07] <loic-m> sgallagh: there's also the changelog in case the package is maintained by a team (like MOTU) but you want to see who uploaded the pkg
[16:31] <calc> ScottK: boost1.38 now in main :)
[16:32] <calc> ScottK: time to migrate everything over to it and through out 1.34/1.35/1.37 ;-)
[16:32] <calc> er throw
[16:32] <ScottK> calc: Excellent.  I have to write the mail to ubuntu-devel-announce.
[16:33] <calc> OOo is already done and just waiting for boost to be available (depwait atm)
[16:34] <directhex> calc, what's wrong with maintaining 4 versions of boost?
[16:35] <calc> directhex: heh funny ;-)
[16:37] <calc> ScottK: is anything in main still using 1.35?
[16:37] <ScottK> Yes
[16:37] <ScottK> calc: KDE still.
[16:37] <calc> ok
[16:37] <calc> oh i see
[16:37] <ScottK> I didn't want to move twice.
[16:38] <calc> is there a way to show all reverse build-depends with apt-cache (or something similar?
[16:41] <sistpoty|work> calc: build-rdeps of devscripts perhaps?
[16:42] <sgallagh> jelmer: Are you the package maintainer for libldb-dev still?
[16:42] <jelmer> sgallagh, hi
[16:42] <jelmer> sgallagh, yeah
[16:42] <jelmer> In Debian that is
[16:44] <sgallagh> jelmer: I'm trying to assist someone in porting the SSSD to Debian/Ubuntu, but I'm having some trouble with the libldb-dev package. It includes an ldb_includes.h file that is looking for files from libreplace, but that doesn't seem to be packaged (or marked as a dependency)
[16:45] <jelmer> sgallagh: We need to do a new release upstream I think before Simo's daemon can be packaged
[16:45] <jelmer> sgallagh, Is it already packaged in Fedora?
[16:45] <sgallagh> jelmer: Yes
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[16:46] <jelmer> sgallagh: So, we'll have to package a new upstream version but there's only snapshots atm
[16:47] <sgallagh> jelmer: What do you need (from us, from samba, etc.) to do that?
[16:48] <jelmer> sgallagh, time, mainly :-)
[16:48] <jelmer> sgallagh, Ideally I should coordinate with Simo on a new ldb release upstream
[16:49] <sgallagh> jelmer: The other question I wanted to ask was why there is a separate libldb-samba-4.0-dev package, and why it's both incomplete and has a .pc file that lies. :)
[16:50] <jelmer> sgallagh: It's there because Samba 4 contains a different version of ldb
[16:50] <jelmer> sgallagh, the stock version doesn't work with it
[16:50] <jelmer> sgallagh, I think in Fedora that one is build statically
[16:50] <sgallagh> ah
[16:51] <sgallagh> ok, so is there anything I can do to help move along this upstream release (aside from pestering simo)?
[16:51] <jelmer> sgallagh, the other two issues you mention are upstream bugs that we've since fixed but haven't been packaged yet
[16:52] <jelmer> sgallagh, Simo and I worked together on this; we've done standalone releases for tdb, talloc and tevent but not for ldb yet
[16:52] <jelmer> sgallagh, (I'm upstream as well)
[16:53] <sgallagh> jelmer: Ok, thank you for your help. Let me know if there's anything I can do.
[16:54] <calc> sistpoty|work: ok thanks
[16:55] <sistpoty|work> np ;)
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[17:34] <baba_> hello
[17:35] <baba_> there is someone that can help me modify some things in ubiquity?
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[18:20] <kblin> hi folks
[18:21] <kblin> is here a tool to make ubuntu join a krb5-domain? I'm trying to come up with an automated way to make samba join an active directory
[18:24] <sgallagh> kblin: winbind is meant for this purpose
[18:24] <kblin> no
[18:24] <kblin> I'm talking about setting up krb5.conf, nsswitch.conf and stuff
[18:24] <kblin> winbind doesn't change config files
[18:25] <Awsoonn> is there a way to tell pbuiler to use multiple cpus while building? it seems that it is only using one cpu currently.
[18:25] <sgallagh> kblin: authconfig
[18:25] <kblin> sgallagh: what I was wondering if there's an established (GUI) tool to take care of this
[18:25] <Adri2000> kblin: likewise-open?
[18:26] <siretart`> wrong channel, in any case
[18:26] <Adri2000> right
[18:26] <kblin> Adri2000: well, that's what I want to replace
[18:26] <sgallagh> kblin: Try authconfig
[18:26] <kblin> Adri2000: I want to use samba technology, not likewise technology
[18:26] <kblin> sgallagh: looking at it
[18:28] <kblin> sgallagh: what packet is that in?
[18:29] <sgallagh> kblin: I take that back. It may not be available in Ubuntu
[18:34] <kblin> ok, if there's no one way to do it (tm), I can just come up with my own.. just checking there wasn't an established way I wasn't aware of
[18:35] <kblin> thanks
[18:40] <sgallagh> kblin: Well, authconfig would be The Right Way(tm), but it looks like no-one's bothered to package it for Ubuntu
[18:41] <kblin> sgallagh: well, I can do it the likewise-open way
[18:41] <kblin> just overwrite the config files with my settings
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[21:54] <maxb> Before DebianImportFreeze, do syncs from Debian unstable happen by cron, or archive admins manually poking something every so often?
[21:59] <geser> maxb: IIRC by an archive-admin using a script or so
[22:01] <maxb> LP bug watch has just notified me of a bug fixed in debian, I need to remind myself to go back and verify the ubuntu task on a bug once the next sync happens
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