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xenocampanoliI am having trouble talking to an internal internet ldap service, and our admin is guessing it's because I need the company certificates properly installed.  We tried /etc/ldap/cacerts, and that didn't go.01:48
MTecknologyI saw one once that I liked but never played w/ setting up01:52
MTecknology!imp02:12
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about imp02:12
MTecknology!horde02:12
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about horde02:12
MTecknology!info horde302:13
ubottuhorde3 (source: horde3): horde web application framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2+debian0-2 (jaunty), package size 7063 kB, installed size 27132 kB02:13
MTecknologySo, can I utilize landscape without paying for it?02:19
tonyyarussoSay, anyone around who would be able to talk me through the concepts involved in setting up an LDAP-hosted address book with fields I could define for things like different IM protocol usernames?  I'd really like to consolidate all of my scattered information...02:31
twbAIUI only the client side of landscape is free software.02:32
twbThe server side is locked up inside canonical.02:32
twbWhere "server" is the puppetmaster and "client" is the puppet, in puppet/cfengine terms.02:32
rsrhello02:46
rsrI am trying to configure fetchmail to grab mail from exchange so I can read with mutt I have this line on .fetchmailrc: poll trunks.engenet.com.br proto imap user "renato.rodrigues" password "hulk01"02:48
rsralthough I get authfail message02:48
rsrinstead of trying to connect to fevel@trunks.engenet it tries fevel@mail.engenet02:48
unewbiei add new nic on my 8.04.2 but it's not running03:03
unewbie1 card was installed during installation03:04
unewbieand when i installed the other card ubuntu doesn't know it03:04
unewbiewhat should i do?03:04
unewbiehow to install new NIC?03:22
error404notfoundDo i need a different certificate for every site at my server?03:34
error404notfounddue to change in cn?03:34
Sam-I-Amerror404notfound: just use a wildcard cert04:07
error404notfoundSam-I-Am, hmmm, how do i create that? also googling in bg04:07
Sam-I-Amand it'll be subjectaltname, not CN04:07
twbrsr: don't use fetchmail for imap.04:10
twbrsr: use offlineimap.04:10
Sam-I-Ammutt does a pretty good job of reading imap04:13
DittoheadCan anyone point me in the direction of a cheapish (~200USD), low power (less than 100w), with dual NICs and preferably silent, server hardware? My first thought was a first gen eeepc but there is the dual NIC issue (as this will be a router, file/print/media, LAMP server for the home). I'm finding quite a few 1u servers on ebay but they're all fairly high-powered.04:46
Kamping_Kaiserwhack a usb/pcmcia/express dongle into $laptop?04:48
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DittoheadKamping_Kaiser: good idea. any that you'd prefer (or at least avoid)?04:49
Kamping_KaiserDittohead, not particularly (I dont know whats around for $200US)04:51
DittoheadWas more in reference to a particular dongle you'd use. I'm finding eeepc 900s for under 200 on ebay.04:54
Kamping_Kaiserah right. usb ones are probably the most portable (eg, could remove laptop one day and plug dongle into new one), but pcmcia/express are less likely to break at the connection to the laptop04:56
DittoheadKamping_Kaiser: thanks!05:00
Kamping_Kaisernp05:01
twbDittohead: you can run two networks over a single NIC, using vlan tagging.05:03
twbThis will require either linux, sun or cisco gear on the other end of the cable.05:04
Dittoheadtwb: my dd-wrt access point would support this, but I doubt the motorola wimax modem would.05:04
twbDittohead: uh, why would the modem need it?05:05
twbYou only need tagging on two two ports that the cable connects to.05:05
twbs/two two/the two/05:05
twbFWIW I've done vlanning between an OpenWRT and an 8.04 server in exactly that configuration.05:06
twbI mean, obviously it's better to just slap a second NIC in, but (as in your case) there wasn't room in the server.05:07
Dittoheadtwb: The server would act as a replacement of my current wireless router (or rather to replace the router function between the modem and the network, I'd still use the wifi AP functionality). If the modem doesn't support vlan tagging, and I don't have a tagging-capable switch in between the two then I can't make it work, right?05:09
Dittohead(I've not done much with vlan'ing so forgive my ignorance!)05:09
twbWhat's wrong with your existing DD-WRT?05:09
twbTo answer your question: it depends on what connects your wifi modem to your router/server.  If it's ethernet, then you're right -- vlanning won't work.  If it's USB, that's different.05:10
DittoheadI'd wanted to setup VPN capability but my current router but I can't at this point due to NVRAM restrictions on the hardware. That and I want a project. :)05:13
error404notfoundSam-I-Am, there?05:14
twbFair enough.05:14
error404notfoundSam-I-Am, isn't wild card ssl for domain and all its sub-dmains? or can it be used for all domains on a single host?05:14
Dittoheadtwb: The WiMax modem only has ethernet, which goes into the WAN port of the router.05:14
twbRighto.05:17
Sam-I-Amerror404notfound: its usually for a domain and hosts under it05:22
Sam-I-Amerror404notfound: in other words, it can do *.domain.com or *.sub.domain.com, but not *.*.domain.com05:23
Sam-I-Amyou can also list a bunch of hosts in subjectaltname05:23
error404notfoundSam-I-Am, say i have www.example.com, www.myhost.com, www.newsite.com, www.topportal.com plus each of these has subdomains under them so how would i create a cert for all of these domains?05:24
Sam-I-Amyou dont05:25
Sam-I-Amyou have multiple certs05:25
Sam-I-Ambut it shouldnt matter much as long as they're legit05:25
error404notfoundhmmm....05:28
TimReichharthi guys I want to know if there is anyway that I can put my /var/mail.log into a database for per user05:28
Sam-I-Amyou can only have one wildcard in a cert i think05:28
Sam-I-Ambut multiple single host/domain combos05:29
error404notfoundSam-I-Am, thanks... i guess i will use wildcard ones for subdomain and a single domain, so that way i would have 4 certs for 4 domains and about 25 subdomains05:29
Sam-I-AmTimReichhart: might be an app for log management at that level.. or just write a script to parse it out and insert into a database05:30
TimReichhartwell I have been trying to figure out how to parse it out and put it into a database and I cant find anything how to do that05:31
error404notfoundbtw if i create my own openssl certs, everytime a new visitor hits my site, he will have to accept my cert manually, is there a (possibly free) workaround of this problem?05:32
Sam-I-Amshell script that grabs lines by name and makes an sql insert statement?  sounds reasonable.05:32
Sam-I-Amerror404notfound: check out cacert.org.05:32
TimReichhartyou got any examples there Sam-I-Am05:32
Sam-I-Amerror404notfound: its community based trust and i know firefox has them as a CA05:32
Sam-I-Amother browsers not so much... then you get to pay05:32
error404notfoundaaah.... great.... thanks...05:33
Sam-I-AmTimReichhart: not off the top of my head05:33
TimReichhartok05:33
error404notfoundi had an account there and i forgot05:33
Sam-I-Amhappens...05:33
Sam-I-Amanywho, i gotta get... work at 5am tomorrow05:33
yelyoshi, I'm wondering how I should install a gui on ubuntu server that doesn't start up on boot so I can leave it off when I need the performance05:36
yelyosI'm new to ubuntu05:36
yelyosI just installed ubuntu server on a completely clean machine05:37
yelyosbasically it's a new custom machine with a lot of ram being used as a server to run high-load statistical analyses for a university statistics department05:38
yelyosbut it might also get used in person by people who don't have much experience with the command line05:39
error404notfoundyelyos, to install gui, install ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop or whichever you like, but take it from me, its a bad practise05:40
yelyosit's not a dedicated server05:41
yelyosit's only mostly a server.05:41
yelyosif it was a dedicated server then yeah05:41
yelyosbut given how it's going to be used I'm pretty sure we need a gui on it05:41
yelyoseven if the gui is left unstarted most of the time05:41
yelyosI just wanted to know if installing ubuntu-desktop starts up the gui on boot or if it only starts the gui if it's run from the command line05:43
tonyyarussoyelyos: By default it should on boot.05:55
tonyyarussoyelyos: Just remove gdm from the default runlevel not to.05:55
tonyyarussoyelyos: but really you should be asking yourself why your have a gui on a server at all - what purpose will it actulaly serve?05:56
tonyyarussoDo you mean you'll have people sitting down and writing an essay and checking their e-mail on this machine too?05:56
Mr_Archivehi07:25
highvoltagemost dhcp servers pings an address before assigning it, right?08:49
highvoltageis it really necessary to segment networks when running multiple dhcpd servers then?08:49
twbWhy do you want to run multiple DHCP servers?08:49
twbThey *will* fight.08:49
twbEven if they don't fight for IPs, they will advertise different next-server, routes, dns-servers etc.08:50
highvoltagetwb: was part of the discussion at the "Architecture of a Directory Infrastructure" session08:50
twbhighvoltage: sorry, I don't know what that is.08:50
Kamping_KaiserUDS i'm guessing08:51
highvoltageyes08:51
twbUDS?08:51
Kamping_Kaisertwb, ubuntu dev summit08:52
twbAh, righto.08:53
Kamping_Kaiserftr, i didnt know dhcp servers pinged hosts.08:58
twbKamping_Kaiser: I'm not convinced they do.09:00
twbI wouldn't be surprised if they did some ARP-level sanity checking, though.09:01
Kamping_Kaisernod09:01
ivoksanyone here that was at last bof at uds about ldap directory?09:02
* andreas__ was09:03
ivoksandreas__: i know; have you maybe accidentaly taken my bag? :)09:03
andreas__ivoks: no09:03
ivoksok09:04
andreas__ivoks: check under the tables09:04
ivoksi did09:04
andreas__hmpf09:04
henkjanhighvoltage: in my experience its not necessary to segment your network for running multiple dhcpd servers09:04
ivoksmaybe the guy that was between us09:04
ivoksi don't know his name :/09:04
andreas__ivoks: I remember pushing his back a bit under the table so I could sit09:04
andreas__bag09:04
henkjanhighvoltage: a client will ack a dhcp address. All dhcpd servers will notice this ack and mark the address as in use09:05
highvoltageivoks: o/09:05
ivoksi'll find him09:05
ivokshighvoltage: you were at the session?09:06
ivokshow can someone leave with two bags? :/09:08
sommerone for each of him?09:08
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mufasisanyone here09:09
jonathan_yeh09:09
highvoltageivoks: I was09:10
highvoltageivoks: wait, you're missing a bag with a red cross on it?09:10
ivokshighvoltage: yes09:11
highvoltageivoks: eek, sorry, it must have been under my bag, I did grab it, I'm terribly sorry about that09:11
ivoksok... could you please return it? :)09:12
ivoksi'm at the room 309:12
ivoksin09:12
highvoltageivoks: I only noticed there was another bag when I took mine away just a moment ago, can I give it to you at the projector sscreen where they show the sessions after this session?09:13
ivokshighvoltage: i kind of need it now; battery low09:13
ivokshighvoltage: in which room are you?09:13
highvoltageivoks: ok, where are you, I'll bring it to you since I'm at fault09:13
ivokshighvoltage: room 309:13
highvoltageok, be there in a minute09:13
ivoksok09:14
jonathan_highvoltage and ivoks stay together? o.O09:14
highvoltagejonathan_: no we're at UDS and I left the last session in a hurry and took his bag my mistake09:15
jonathan_ic09:15
mufasisi just finished installing ubuntu server on a proliant dl320 g2 that a friend gave me09:19
mufasisim relatively new to linux and i was wondering whats some cool stuff i can with this server?09:19
Kamping_Kaiserlots of seti@home *grin*09:20
Kamping_Kaisermufasis, 'cool stuff' is entirely dependant on what you think is cool.09:22
cemcyou can run vmware/virtualbox on it with windows, if that qualifies as cool for you :)09:23
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cycrosismCan someone hlp me with vsftpd09:26
cycrosismI keep getting permission deniedc09:26
mufasisyeah vmware my buddy was telling me about it09:26
mufasiswhat is it exactly?09:26
cycrosismIs what?09:26
cycrosismWhen I try to FTP into my server, it only works if im as anonmous. When I try to copy a file to it I get permission denied09:27
mufasisvmware?09:28
cycrosismyes09:28
cycrosismWould you know what is causing the problem mufasis09:30
massctrlHello, I'm running a couple of jeos instances as kvm guests, they have trouble mounting an nfs share though, sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't, ... what could be the deal here?10:08
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juliuxhi12:50
juliuxany chance to get ipmisensors working with ubuntu?12:50
hvnabout ipmi: we have HP ProLiant D380 G5 with working ipmi13:05
hvnthe kernel module is what comes with Ubuntu kernel and the user space utility is from HP's "HP System Health Application and Insight Management Agents for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (AMD64/EM64T)"13:06
hvnbut the main thing is that the module that comes with kernel can talk to hardware ipmi13:06
hvnand the Ubuntu version is 8.04 and kernel is: 2.6.24-23-server #1 SMP Wed Apr 1 22:14:30 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux13:07
Pres-GasIs there a way to utilize ecryptfs when you authenticate with krb5 and authorize with local passwd files?13:26
dthackerIn postfix, if I want to accept relays from any machine on the my local network (10.25.25.0), the correct mynetorks setting would be 10.25.25.0\24, correct?13:27
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Pres-Gasdthacker, if you want all 254 addresses to be relayed, yes.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing13:31
dthackerPres-Gas: thanks13:31
Pres-GasAll good, dthacker13:31
lamontdthacker:  it's /24, not \2413:39
lamontPres-Gas: and it's 256 addresses, since it really doesn't care about network/broadcast blocks...13:39
dthackerlamont: yes, the slash was wrong13:40
lamontif the subnet is truly /24, then the fact that .0 and .255 have no connectivity has nothing to do with whether or not postfix would love them if they did...13:40
lamontdthacker: \ is a windoze thing... in any sane OS, it means "don't apply any special treatment to the next character"13:40
aljosais there a way to have both kvm and virtualbox working on same machine?13:41
eolo999Hi! Is it to possible to have eucalyptus-cc and eucalyptus-nc on the same host?13:54
angelleyeI've got my ftp configured and accepting logins for users on the machine and locking them to their home directory.  the web root for users, though, is on a mounted second hard drive and I need to create an alias to their actual www folder that lives on this mounted drive in their home directory so they have access to it via ftp13:59
angelleyeor if i'm going about that the wrong way please let me know.  but i think you get the idea of what i'm trying to do..??13:59
dthackerangelleye:  create a symbolic link from their ftp home to the web root?14:00
angelleyesymbolic link.  is that like a shortcut?14:00
dthackerlike a windows shortcut? no idea14:01
angelleyei just need it to look like a folder in their home directory even though that actual folder isn't stored there14:02
Sam-I-Amsymbolic links are like windows shortcuts yeah...14:02
angelleyeand i need the ftp to give them access to it14:02
angelleyeeven though they're locked to their home directory14:02
angelleyeok i'll check that out14:02
dthackerman "ln"14:02
eolo999mount?14:02
angelleyeis ther a simple way to do it in nautilus?  forgive me, i'm graphically inclined14:02
angelleye:)14:03
dthackerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_link#Unix_and_Linux14:03
dthackersorry, don't know nautilus,  pretty much live at the command line14:03
angelleyewell, I did ls -s /media/storage www    while in my /home/user directory14:07
angelleyeit created a www folder in the user directory, when when I go into that it's just an empty www folder14:07
angelleyei mean ln-s14:07
angelleyewhen i browse it in nautilus now it looks like shortcut folder but it goges to an empty folder14:08
angelleyeyeah, it's just /home/user/www14:08
angelleyebut the folder icon has an rrow on it like a shortcut14:08
j0nrhello all. I am setting up a basic server. it is a VPS, with 256mb RAM. Currently I am running mysql, apache2, php5 and a session of irssi. I am almost out of memory. does this sound right? It means my install of menalto gallery often runs out of memory14:25
Kamping_Kaiserj0nr, depending on what your doing that could be right, but its also possible to run those services in 128mb too14:26
j0nrKamping_Kaiser: I thought it was a bit high... if i stop apache and mysql it drops from ~240mb to 85mb14:27
j0nrKamping_Kaiser: so do you think it is something to do with how mysql and apache are set up to run?14:28
Kamping_Kaiserj0nr, run top and look at its memory column to check whats using all the memory (eg, mysql or apache). I suspect mysql14:29
Kamping_Kaiseri'll say right now i'm not running mysql anyware, so no personal experiance to offer14:31
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uvirtbotNew bug: #380942 in net-snmp (main) "snmptrapd v5.4.1 seems to have a memory leak much like snmpd in the previous release" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38094214:36
j0nrKamping_Kaiser: yeah myswl uses the most, then apache and then irssi!14:38
j0nrmysql even14:38
Kamping_Kaiserj0nr, re apache, you can probalby unload some modules your not using to free some memory14:39
Kamping_Kaisernever had to rework those services for 'low memory' systems before14:40
ion_Regarding https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-karmic-puppet-integration, are you sure puppet is the way to go? I’ve been using it for a while now and i’m looking for a replacement because the configuration syntax is not a proper scripting language. If it doesn’t already provide you with certain functionality, you’ll have to extend Puppet separately. For instance, i’ve extended Puppet::Parser::Functions with something that sorts a ...14:52
ion_... list, but i can’t even use that as a generic thing in the configuration – only in very specific places, such as file { foo: content => sorted_list(...) }. Another example: puppet’s augeas extension doesn’t allow you to query augeas for something and then set things based on what it returned. If the configuration file were a Ruby script, for instance, you could use the Ruby bindings for augeas directly instead of using a wrapper that restricts ...14:52
ion_... the functionality. Chef looks like something i might switch to: http://wiki.opscode.com/display/chef/14:52
ion_ttx: You seem to be marked as an “essential” subscriber to the blueprint. Perhaps you could consider this.14:53
\shion_: cfengine is the same..no real scripting language..puppet is more to a scripting language then cfengine...and puppet is used by google (AFAIK)...and I chose it too for our servers14:54
eolo999hi which is the package which substitutes ia32-libs on jaunty server?14:55
eolo999im trying to install xampp on a 64 bit machine14:55
\sheolo999: ia32-libs?14:55
eolo999\sh: yes14:56
eolo999in hardy there is a package called ia32-libs14:56
eolo999in jaunty there is not14:56
\sheolo999: ia32-libs and yes there is14:56
eolo999mmmmhhhh14:57
eolo999\sh: thx! it was an horrific typo14:57
eolo999Is it to possible to have eucalyptus-cc and eucalyptus-nc on the same host?14:58
* eolo999 wants to build a puppet/cfengine app written in erlang14:59
Bizzehhi, how difficult is it to set up say four installs of ubuntu as a clustered database server15:01
Sam-I-Amprobably not hard15:02
geniiBizzeh: I was just recently looking into high availability postgresql solutions. Previously we had freebsd machines with a custom solution. It looks like Slony for this is about the best bang for the buck.15:05
Bizzehgenii: im looking to start something from nothing here, only reason i was looking towards a free solution15:08
geniiBizzeh: Stock LAMP install on a number of boxes with Slony for database redundancy seems about the best bang-for-the-buck ( $0 )15:17
Bizzehahh15:18
Bizzehrunning the testing on a single dual core machine right now, gonna set up a VM farm at the weekend to test a custered setup then15:18
Bizzehcurrently have around 8 million rows in 25 tables in 1db, but thats going to grow by about 4 million a day15:19
geniiBizzeh: There are also lots of sites with tips to tweak PostgreSQL performance for large installs/speed optimizing   etc15:22
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\shgenii: I had a look at postgres and slony for a company project...and for master slave replication it's a bit too tricky...using those triggers etc. and for active active clusters I didn't find any good solution for postgres (only cybercluster but there is a lack of good documentation and they do some strange rsync+ssh magic fir Large File Objects, whatever that means in this DB context, wasn't documented)15:50
genii\sh: For active/active it IS somewhat difficult. I've been on the same type of search for a better solution myself lately.15:51
\shgenii: that's why we choose mysql cluster ... and regarding performance, which is better with postgres, I think more hardware will help here ;)15:53
genii\sh: Since I've alread inherited a Postgres-based system (which a bunch of other stuff has been custom-writtten for) migration for us to mysql is unfortunately not an (forseeable) option.15:55
\shgenii: yeah...we have luck to just start with this new project so we had to stresstest all involved systems and we had the chance to choose...but for an already running service this could be quite difficult16:09
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lzantalJust installed 9.04 server with software raid and when I boot I get /dev/md1 does not exist. Anyone came a cross this before?17:51
lzantalanyone?17:56
rkitectwhat is the command to list users?17:58
jmedinarkitect: which users?17:59
rkitectall users that are currently named on the system.18:00
jmedinacat /etc/passwd18:00
rkitectjmedina: thanks18:00
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orudiequestion. with using postfix/dovecot i created a user name and it automatically creates an email account for the user. I want to be able to use this email account as outgoing mail only , so that all the incoming mail to this account is rejected.18:54
jmedinaorudie: you need to configure postfix, it is well documented http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html18:59
orudiejmedina-> i think i would rather have the mail forwarded from one user to another, any quick way of accomplishing this ?19:03
jmedinaorudie: I don know, I always use the procedure described in the document19:04
jmedinayou can get more info in postfix mailing lists19:04
jmedinaif you look at the postfix mailing lists archives, you can find good examples19:05
giovani|workorudie: postfix supports aliases yes ... but I don't know if they can be used the way you want19:34
giovani|workorudie: if you don't want every user on the system to have an email account then use virtual hosting, where you define each email address -- and then you can make any aliases you like19:35
jmedinaorudie: you can do exactly what you want using postfix and Restrictions Classes, it is not that hard19:38
ScottKIt's easy enough to do.19:57
lupine_85Hiya. I'm considering installing Ubuntu on a machine with a 1GB SSD for /boot and other small essentials (/etc, /lib, etc) and having /usr mounted over nfs/etc20:54
lupine_85has anyone done this from install (as opposed to migrating it)20:54
jmedina1GB SSD for /boot?20:55
Sam-I-Amthats a bit overkill lol20:55
lupine_85a 1GB SSD for basically everything but /usr20:55
jmedinayou dont need /boot after boot20:55
lupine_85maybe /var too20:55
jmedinait is only used/read to read vmlinuz initrd20:56
stickystyleI don't see why it wouldn't work, IIRC the base install is ~840MB20:56
stickystyleand that is with a ton of stuff in /ust20:56
jmedinamy systems have 100GB for /boot, and I use noauto in fstab20:56
lupine_85stickystyle: mm, but can I tell the installer to make use of NFS space?20:56
lupine_85or is this something I'm going to have to hack together after the fact?20:56
stickystyleAh, I see what your getting at now....Humm, not exactly sure.  Perhaps the LTSP could provide some guidance, as they do some thin clients, I would think it could carry over to server.20:58
lupine_85LTSP is netboot generally speaking, so not really the same domain :/20:58
* lupine_85 is trying to avoid netboot as he wants something that'll boot if the nfs server dies20:58
stickystyleI know, but I thought they had some between thin/thick clients that had a base install20:58
lupine_85i've not come across it - which is probably a good sign ;). I'll poke 'em - thanks20:59
geniiYou can do in-target commands.21:10
lupine_85genii: true enough, but that strikes me as much more hassle than just hacking it after the fact21:11
lupine_85ideally at the partitioning stage there'd be an "add a network share" option :)21:11
lupine_85buuuuuuuuuut I don't think there is21:11
geniiIn the preseeds you can have for partitioning a "recipe" but not sure it includes non-local disks21:13
TJ`anyone an avid webmin user and could help troubleshoot why im not receiving emails from the System and Server Status module?22:51
giovani|workTJ`: Ubuntu doesn't support the use of webmin22:51
giovani|work!webmin22:51
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.22:51
TJ`ive got it running perfectly lol22:53
TJ`ill have a look at ebo though22:53
giovani|workwhether it works "perfectly" or not22:53
giovani|workit's not supported22:53
giovani|worktry #webmin22:53
TJ`empy22:53
TJ`*empty22:53
TJ`!google ebox22:54
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about google ebox22:54
giovani|workthat doesn't bode well for the software quality22:54
giovani|work!ebox22:54
ubottuebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox22:54
TJ`giovani i dont suppose u know a good system to monitor services on the network and email/sms when they go down?22:55
billybigrigger_anyone here use roundcube for a webmail client?23:07
TJ`billybigrigger_ ive used as part of cPanel23:14
TJ`never installed it myself23:14
TJ`its pretty good nice and clean23:14
billybigrigger_hmm23:14
TJ`users like it23:14
TJ`bit slow23:14
billybigrigger_i was just wondering about an auto-login for it23:14
billybigrigger_just found something that looks alot better than squirrel, or roundcube, imo23:15
billybigrigger_atmail23:15
billybigrigger_looks very nice23:15
billybigrigger_gonna play with that one i think, roundcube is just...i dunno, still early beta...and it feels like it too23:15
TJ`lol23:15
billybigrigger_http://www.atmail.org/demo.php.23:18
billybigrigger_take a look, tell me that doesnt look 10x better than squirrelmail or roundcube23:18
TJ`squirrelmail is like notepad23:19
TJ`its just dead simple, stable and nothing with replace it :)23:19
TJ`its v nice though!23:20
jmedinanotepad :S, what a comparision23:20
TJ`responsive too23:20
* TJ` loves notepad23:20
TJ`ok23:21
TJ`what do people here use to monitor their networks and services?23:21
jmedinaTJ there are editors more advanced which can help you reduce you editing time, and therefore more productive23:21
TJ`jmedina ofc there are, notepad++ eclipse, dreamweaver23:21
jmedinaTJ, just: apt-get install vim && vimtutor23:21
jmedina:D23:21
TJ`nano > vim23:21
jmedinaTJ`well I dont use windows, so I dont know23:22
billybigrigger_all hail nano23:22
TJ`people, is nagios really that good?23:22
jmedinavi is the only editor I use, when you manage a comercial unix, the only editor you have is vi23:23
jmedinaTJ` it depens on your needs, and the layers you want to monitor23:23
TJ`i want simple monitoring23:23
TJ`when things go down i want an email23:23
TJ`cant find ANYTHING simple23:23
jmedinatj` well what is your definition of "simple monitoring"23:23
TJ`and straightforward23:24
TJ`i suppose check if that service on host:port is reacheable23:24
jmedinaTJ` you can use monit, it is really simple23:24
jmedinatj` try centreon, it is based on nagios, really easy to configure23:24
jmedinano need to edit nagios files23:24
TJ`the samba conf files are easier then monit23:24
docta_vi've built several custom .deb packages and would like to enable authentication for them23:58
docta_vif i use debsig-verify all packages from the standard ubuntu repo fail verification... should i be using something besides debsig-verify or do i need to add the ubuntu keys to debsig23:58
docta_vwhat method do the ubuntu packages use for verification?23:58

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