[01:13] does this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch still work for making a liveCD? [01:14] is there anything I need to change command wise to make it work with Jaunty? [01:51] i need help on these commands [01:52] http://paste.ubuntu.com/181658/ [01:52] i need help how to do these commands [01:52] http://paste.ubuntu.com/181658/ [02:08] i am angry with u all :( [03:30] www.albumoftheday.com/facebook [03:58] after doing an update; I've lost my wireless internet. I'm able to connect to the network, just not the internet. any suggestions? [03:59] version is Jaunty. System is a Compaq 5441 256M ram, and PCI graphics card [04:02] I all anyone know how to add a keyboard shortcut for the terminal in xubuntu? It's not the same as ubuntu [04:02] !keys [04:02] Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 [13:20] Hi! [13:20] hello domeec [13:20] Has somebody managed to install xubuntu on usb 2gb? [13:23] I knew Xubuntu was not so big and people was able to install it on 2gb pen, but me...No can u help me please? [13:26] domeec, sorry...that is outside my experience [13:26] domeec, it might be a little tight. [13:28] domeec, i have a 4GB eeepc, and i usually end up with only about ~1GB space left [13:29] domeec, i suggest to use minimal [13:29] !minimal | domeec [13:29] domeec: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [13:32] That MinimalCD is for Ubuntu [13:32] domeec, but you can then select what packages you want from xfce4/xubuntu [13:33] :-) [13:33] domeec, xubuntu shares the same base as ubuntu [13:33] domeec, you will initially start out with a text terminal and no gui, if I remember right. [13:33] domeec, minimal cd doesn't install any DE by default, which is the main difference between ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu/... [13:33] Pres-Gas is right. you have to select to install a graphical environment [13:34] mmh...Gold... not gui? I can see me doing a mess.... [13:34] nope, just install xfce [13:34] Ok, but were find the instruction to install xfce? [13:35] domeec, echo 'apt::Install-Recommends "0" ;' | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01ubuntu [13:35] domeec, i suggest you to use that command [13:35] domeec, jaunty installs recommends by default, but that disables that feature and you will be left with more space [13:36] That's cool [13:36] domeec, then you can try to install xubuntu-desktop package (sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop) [13:37] domeec, that *should* fit in 2GB, but if it recommends it uses too much space, then cancel and install xfce4-something [13:37] domeec, i suppose just "xfce4" [13:37] domeec, you also might want to consider using a lighter *buntu [13:37] for example, lxde [13:37] vidd, i think the lighter *buntus are not that much smaller HD-wise [13:38] vidd, if you only install the DE/WM [13:38] the only differences is the final package [13:38] knome, you take out the recommends and there is a big difference in size [13:40] domeec, but...on second thought...without recommends, lxde needs a lot of tweeking to work properly [13:40] komme, that is a great command for finding just what you need [13:40] vidd, yes, but if you take out the recommends, after that there is not difference between lxde and xfce [13:40] * Pres-Gas makes note of that [13:40] knome, your insane [13:41] vidd, me? ;) [13:41] yes [13:41] why? :) [13:41] xfce requires gdm [13:41] does not require, if you insist on using something else [13:41] that might lead into some problems, but the xfce devs have managed to run xfce correctly without gdm [13:41] lxde requires no DM, so you can use whatever one you want [13:41] ;) [13:42] i've used xfce without a DM at all also. [13:43] let me rephrase.... [13:43] you had said xubuntu-desktop [13:43] that requires gdm [13:43] lxde does not [13:43] yeah. [13:44] yeah. but gdm is not *that* big. [13:44] it'll fit nicely in 2GB [13:44] no...by itself...its rather small [13:44] its the other baggage it brings =] [13:45] Till now I hope having understood something dudes, let try. Thanks... [13:46] domeec, np. have fun and good luck. [13:46] it really irks me that rather then take the time to fix packages to require that which they need, the powers that be decided to force recommends upon us [13:46] yep. [13:46] I forgot [13:46] As reguards grub? [13:46] grub will be installed by minimal [13:46] i'd suppose... [13:47] can I choose to put it on usb pen? [13:47] uh, yes, i suppose also [13:47] * vidd is away [14:00] * vidd is back [14:09] hey. when using skype. i lose loads of packets. resulting in poor sound qualety. is there any settings that wuld fix this. [14:10] premorphos, what speed internet/type of internet you have? [14:11] premorphos, also, is that system connected wirelessly or hard-wired to your router? [14:11] vidd: speed duno,54 usb wifi [14:11] prob adsl. [14:12] premorphos, so you wirelessly connect to someone else's internet?? [14:12] works well with everything else [14:12] I've installed and updated Jaunty only to loose my wireless internet. I can only connect to the network. I've flushed iptables and used the ifup to no effect. [14:13] no it is in my office [14:13] How do I fix it short of reinstalling? [14:13] premorphos, so you wirelessly connect to your work router? [14:13] KoshB5, can you pastebin me your /etc/network/interfaces ? [14:13] vidd: i gess so... [14:13] !pastebin [14:13] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [14:14] premorphos, wireless is notorious for losing backets [14:14] normal web apps you dont notice, because they re-request the dropped packets [14:14] of course.. but same thing happen when i use the tcp cable [14:14] try connecting wired to verify this is not your issue [14:15] premorphos, did you disable the wifi when you plugged in the cable? [14:16] yes. do you thing it has some thing with alsa todo? [14:16] for some strange reason, linux defers to wifi over wired if both are active [14:16] premorphos, no, i dont hink alsa has anything to do with your issue at all [14:16] hmm [14:17] i think the issue is that your wifi is dropping packets like all wifi does [14:17] try disabling your wifi, and then connect wire [14:18] verify this by disable wifi, go to a web page (it should fail to load) connected wired, go to web page (it should load) [14:19] then see if you get packet loss on skype [14:19] vidd, could the issue of me being in turky trying to reach sweden have any thing to do with it?.. "conecting my cable now" [14:19] premorphos, it shouldnt [14:19] premorphos, btw ... marhaba [14:19] =] [14:20] KoshB5, you get your network interfaces pastebin'd for me? [14:25] KoshB5, you there? [14:26] premorphos_, marhaba [14:29] premorphos_, you having any luck? [14:29] marhaba vidd abi: now im wired, result: no packet loss, but still verry low output from the mic. it works well under any outer circomstanses but skype. [14:30] vidd: are you in turky two? [14:30] premorphos_, i spent a year there [14:30] outside of c,urlu [14:31] =] [14:31] sweet.. doing what? [14:31] U.S. Army [14:31] im in ankara in writing moment [14:31] interesting [14:31] yesterday I download a progam (Mozilla Songbird, extracted .tar.gz, all necessary files containe, no need to compile) and it ran fine from where I extracted it, today it just won't boot, when I click it thre the file browser I get no action, try to runn from the console and it just goes to the next line # with no action no error and no program starting, I tried rebooting my comp, same thing, deleted it and re-downloaded again on [14:32] DetroitLibertyPe, try installing it [14:32] premorphos_, i dont know a lot about skype....im more of a connection expert [14:32] vidd: via? [14:33] apt-get i believe [14:33] Puppy has apt-get [14:33] or synaptic [14:33] oops! room, my bad! [14:34] DetroitLibertyPe, what version of linux you using? [14:34] (songbird does not appear to be in my repo's) [14:35] well, my PC is Xubunutu, this issue was on my wifes' wich is Puppy Linux, which is why i realized I was in the wrong room and said "oops! room, my bad!" [14:35] DetroitLibertyPe, np [14:35] we help when we can [14:36] im dl'ing the app now.... [14:36] where did you extract it to? [14:36] ok thanx vidd: i got a free tutorial on tcp meets wifi in clash of packet loss. [14:36] premorphos_, hehe...im not free =] [14:37] im open source [14:37] =] [14:37] haha ok. i got it. [14:49] speaking of open source and xubuntu. how does one rely get involved, and get a deeper understanding of the system xubuntu. any pointers from you pro's is deeply appreciated [14:51] premorphos: check out http://xubuntu.org [14:54] tnx [14:58] !contribute [14:58] To contribute and help out with Xubuntu see: http://xubuntu.org/devel and http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate [16:51] hi there, I have xubuntu 9.04 but there is no vncviewer? what is the name of package? [16:52] zs, the app is vncviewer [16:52] zs, sudo apt-get install vncviewer [16:52] Remote Desktop Viewer in network ? [16:52] by default it's there? [16:53] Slonkie, is it? [16:53] Slonkie, Couldn't find package vncviewer [16:54] i recall having it after a clean install of jaunty, yes. [16:54] but that's vinagre [16:55] I used vinagre to connect to a RealVNC vnc [16:55] ok got it working, thanks [17:01] Hi. I'm pretty new to Linux. I'm having a problem copying a file to a USB stick - my computer simply won't let me. I have read&write permissions. I've tried using terminal but I can't get it to move because the directory has a space in it - /media/Bootable Utilities [17:02] FelineMonstrosit, cp /path/to/file /media/Bootable\ Utilities [17:02] or rename the destination folder [17:02] Can't rename it. I'll try what you said. [17:02] =] [17:04] Terminal tells me it's a read-only system. I'm a system admin, could I possibly use a sudo command? [17:05] FelineMonstrosit, you may need to install tools to read/write to the file format on that drive if it is not ext*, fat12, 16, or 32 [17:05] sudo command didn't work, for the same reason. [17:05] what file format is that drive? [17:05] I don't know. How do I check? [17:06] can you see the usb drive in your file manager? [17:07] Yes [17:07] can you open files stored on it? [17:08] Yes [17:12] where these files from a windows system? [17:12] No, a Mac [17:12] ok [17:13] what file system does a mac use?!? [17:13] Finder [17:14] That's what it's called, I don't know anything more technical than that [17:14] unfortunantly, neither do i [17:14] Does that mean you can't tell me how to copy files onto it? [17:15] well here is the thing.... [17:16] in order to write to a file system, you have to speak the same language [17:17] i dont know if linux, by default, can write to mac file system [17:17] i know you need special tools for NTFS [17:18] OK, thank you [17:23] evening :) [17:38] vidd: For linux to understand hfs, read/write to them, packages: hfsplus, hfsutils, and hfsprogs need install. Then also the kernel module the package provides needs to me loaded [17:38] *be [18:46] genii, thank you for the enlightenment...but the individual that needed that info left about 20 minutes b4 you stated it =\ [18:46] genii, and then...my reply is fasionably late as well =] [18:47] vidd: More than for completeness of logs :) [18:48] hehe [19:21] hi [19:21] help me [19:22] !help [19:22] Hi! I'm #xubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [19:22] spimmer, can you be slightly more specific as to the nature of the issue? [19:23] xfce + nautilus use [19:23] o.....k..... [19:23] how to nautilus default [19:23] what about it? [19:23] is nautilus installed? [19:23] yes [19:24] so open the default apps and set it as the default file manager [19:24] yes how to [19:24] i dont understand [19:25] open the default apps utility in your settings manager [19:25] default apps utility ? [19:25] there? [19:26] did you even BOTHER to look? [19:26] flash movies cause my firefox to slow down the whole system: cpu usage rises immediately to a really huge value; any suggestions for this? [19:26] applications->Settings->Settings Manager->Prefered appplications [19:27] xerox1, use a different flash-playing utility or upgrade your system [19:27] there is no contents Terminal, Web Browser, Mail reader only [19:29] vidd, system is 9.04 (if you thought of software)...hardware should also be fulfiling this (intel centrino, 1gb ram, 128 mb graphical ram (intel on board)) [19:29] spimmer, then i dont know...i try to avoid bloatware myself [19:29] xerox1, what app are you using to play the movie? [19:30] spimmer, what pages did your google search turn up? or the search of the forums and wiki? [19:30] vidd, how can i determine which app is used by firefox? i would like to use vlc plugin if possible [19:31] yes this issue non [19:31] xerox1, flash does not come pre-installed...so its whatever app you chose to use [19:31] spimmer, surely you jest [19:32] vidd, if have installed adobe flash player 10 [19:32] spimmer, http://www.google.com/search?q=xubuntu+nautilus&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a [19:32] 10 pages of hits [19:33] spimmer, the VERY FIRST item has step by step instructions [19:34] xerox1, try uninstalling that and get gnash or one of the open source alternatives [19:34] or get LOTS more ram [19:34] very hard.. [19:35] xerox1, personally, i pause the movie, wait for it to completly dl, and then watch it in gxine [19:35] spimmer, how so? [19:37] spimmer, you ever going to use thunar? [19:38] vidd, yeah but a video that takes half an hour takes me to wait for over an hour having it load (even if i am only interested in the first 5 minutes) [19:39] xerox1, REMOVE THE FLASH PLAYER AND GET A DIFFERENT ONE [19:40] vidd, thanks for help, but no need for shouting [19:40] spimmer, yes? no? [19:40] xerox1, the caps was in error [19:40] the caps lock is right next to the tab key =] [19:41] vidd, ;) [19:41] no [19:41] spimmer, then why not simply uninstall thunar? [19:42] sftp connect [19:42] us [19:42] e [19:42] huh? [19:43] thunar not conneted sftpd.. [19:44] spimmer, what are you doing? [19:44] what does sftpd have to do with "sudo apt-get remove --purge thunar"? [19:45] yes [19:46] spimmer, how is that even possible to construe as a yes-no question?!? [19:48] spimmer, what is your native language? [19:49] korean [19:50] sorry [19:50] !korean | spimmer, [19:50] spimmer,: 도움이 필요하시면 다음 채널에 조인하십시오. /join #ubuntu-ko [19:50] thank you! [19:50] they may be more helpful [19:51] the language barrier is killing us [20:24] hey, is there some tip to use the volume control without a scroll-mouse (I have a thinkpad laptop) [20:24] sorend, unfortunantly no...... [20:24] vidd: ;( [20:25] You can click on it and it'll open up the mixer [20:25] you might also try using multimedia keys on your keyboard if you have them [20:25] sorend you chould add keyboard shortcuts [20:25] the slider bar that was so conviently included in previous versions of xubuntu has been discarded for this worthless "pretty-boy" app [20:27] you cant even get this app above 90% volume without opening the mixer [20:27] hm, the shortcuts is a good idea [20:27] thinkpad keys are supported and there is even some osd for it [20:29] but, what "mixer" does those keys control, it doesn't seem to affect any alsa controlled ;/ [20:30] sorend, used to be with the previous volume manager, these keys were auto-enabled...but that functionality was also discarded [20:30] hi, new to xfce but not to 'buntu. how can the main menus be edited? [20:34] halp pls [20:34] vidd: i guess i can just disable that volume control, its not that useful without scroll mouse ;/ [20:35] gives me a tiny 64x64 more screen estate :D [20:37] main applications menu can't be edited? [20:40] Barridus: not really [20:42] so if i wanted to manually add something or put it in a new folder, i'm SOL? === histo_ is now known as histo === [o_O] is now known as danopia