| === GuyFromHell_ is now known as GuyFromHell | ||
| maco | if you have 3 screens, (1 left, 1 right, 1 center) and you're looking at the one on the left, and it pops up on the one on the right...are you actually going to see it? | 10:47 |
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| === YpsyZNC is now known as Ypsy | ||
| bratsche | davidbarth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotificationDesignGuidelines#Morphing alert box | 14:12 |
| davidbarth | This is a meeting on morphing windows | 14:17 |
| davidbarth | (we're using IRC while the gobby service is being restored) | 14:17 |
| davidbarth | The agenda of the meeting is | 14:17 |
| davidbarth | 1. Introduce the concept of morphing windows | 14:17 |
| davidbarth | 2. Discuss the implementation | 14:18 |
| davidbarth | 3. Identify development steps and milestones for the karmic cycle | 14:18 |
| davidbarth | 1. Introduction | 14:18 |
| davidbarth | The concept originated from the notification development thread | 14:18 |
| davidbarth | Morphing windows provide an alternative way to interact with the user. | 14:18 |
| davidbarth | The concept is described in more details at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotificationDesignGuidelines#Morphing | 14:19 |
| davidbarth | The concept encompasses | 14:19 |
| davidbarth | morphing alert box | 14:19 |
| davidbarth | morphing windows | 14:23 |
| davidbarth | Feedback from the audience (Guadalinex) (correct me if i'm wrong) | 14:24 |
| davidbarth | using an ID card that is previously using notifications with actions (3 buttons) | 14:25 |
| davidbarth | we should refer to the Hermes project that makes heavy use of notifications (and actions) | 14:27 |
| davidbarth | The concept relies on raising a window, but in the background and unfocused by default (to prevent focus stealing if the window manager does not handle that already) | 14:30 |
| davidbarth | 2. Implementation discussion | 14:37 |
| davidbarth | The feature would be provided as a library | 14:38 |
| davidbarth | It is not a service that the notification system should provide, nor should it be a part of libnotify (unless it becomes usefull as part of the xdg discussion) | 14:40 |
| davidbarth | The implementation would provide a frame A and frame B | 14:40 |
| davidbarth | Opportunity to use the gtk timeframe | 14:40 |
| davidbarth | (that's gtk timeline really) | 14:40 |
| davidbarth | Note: should follow up at Guadec/Akademy | 14:41 |
| davidbarth | for the implementation details | 14:41 |
| davidbarth | Note: the morphing window feature can apply to a top-level window | 14:42 |
| davidbarth | 3 options (non-exclusive) | 14:47 |
| davidbarth | - can extend or shrink the (toplevel) window frame | 14:47 |
| davidbarth | - can (in-replace) replace a set of widgets with another one | 14:48 |
| davidbarth | - can re-use the existing frame | 14:48 |
| davidbarth | Adding to the design discussion | 14:49 |
| davidbarth | The concept should allow for grouping a set of staked dialog windows, and instead re-use the available window frames | 14:50 |
| davidbarth | Launchpad is using the same concept of morphing windows (searching for an example) | 14:51 |
| davidbarth | On the resize operation, we should support resizing in both directions (vertical / horizontal) | 14:57 |
| davidbarth | We may provide a smooth transition between two frames, including with the ability to fade out / fade in widgets | 14:58 |
| davidbarth | (and/or frames) | 14:59 |
| davidbarth | The Ajax library that provides this morhoinbg window feature should be taken as an example | 15:02 |
| davidbarth | ACTION: cody to implement a prototype that can swap to sets of widgets | 15:02 |
| davidbarth | ACTION: cody/dbarth to check the Ajax library features | 15:03 |
| davidbarth | Commitment for Karmic will be decided after the prototype phase (1 month, by the time we reach Guadec/Akademy) | 15:04 |
| === MaWaLe1 is now known as MaWaLe | ||
| bratsche | kenvandine: I think my latest csdeco revision should fix the issues you're having. | 18:14 |
| kenvandine | woot | 18:18 |
| kenvandine | email me the patch please | 18:18 |
| * kenvandine is heading out for a team dinner | 18:18 | |
| === MaWaLe1 is now known as MaWaLe | ||
| kenvandine | bratsche: my ppa build is failing anyway, but might get back in time to fix it tonight :) | 18:19 |
| bratsche | kenvandine: Cool, no rush anyway. | 18:43 |
| bratsche | I haven't actually tested in xnest or anything.. but the problem was for applications that turn off decorations. | 18:44 |
| bratsche | And that's fixed. | 18:44 |
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