| bencrisford2 | still awake over there stgraber? | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| stgraber | sure | 00:03 |
| bencrisford2 | lol, this'll be tricky | 00:03 |
| bencrisford2 | im in serious pain over here | 00:04 |
| bencrisford2 | turned my brightness right down cos its hurting my eyes :( | 00:04 |
| stgraber | yeah, funny thing being that if I actually go to bed, you'll still have to wait an hour to leave at the same time as I do :) | 00:05 |
| bencrisford2 | :P | 00:06 |
| bencrisford2 | no we'll do it on times | 00:06 |
| bencrisford2 | so record when you go | 00:06 |
| bencrisford2 | i will when i go | 00:06 |
| bencrisford2 | but i might not be able to | 00:06 |
| bencrisford2 | cos chances are ill fall asleep on my keyboard... :/ | 00:06 |
| bencrisford2 | uh oh, the dizziness is starting to kick in | 00:07 |
| bencrisford2 | Youve probably won :P, we'll see how it goes though | 00:07 |
| bencrisford1 | lol, that wasnt me giving in stgraber, but my internet goes from time to time | 00:19 |
| stgraber | hehe | 00:19 |
| asanchez | see you tomorrow | 00:29 |
| asanchez | pygi, thanks for the talk | 00:29 |
| LaserJock | yo | 00:43 |
| LaserJock | there's going to be a Packaging Training session in #ubuntu-classroom in 16 min. | 00:44 |
| bencrisford1 | LaserJock: Im trying to sort a bot | 00:44 |
| bencrisford1 | that'll log our meetings | 00:44 |
| bencrisford1 | if we start the meeting with === | 00:44 |
| bencrisford1 | and end with === | 00:45 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 00:45 |
| LaserJock | actually | 00:45 |
| LaserJock | bencrisford1: I would maybe not worry about that | 00:45 |
| bencrisford1 | :( | 00:45 |
| bencrisford1 | but im bored and its keeping me awake | 00:45 |
| * bencrisford1 must beat stgraber :P | 00:46 | |
| LaserJock | bencrisford1: I think in the future we should hold our meetings in #ubuntu-meeting where there is already a bot | 00:46 |
| bencrisford1 | :( | 00:46 |
| LaserJock | bencrisford1: I'm sure we could use a different bot though :-) | 00:46 |
| bencrisford1 | yay :) | 00:46 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure what exactly | 00:47 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 00:47 |
| bencrisford1 | well have a think and ill see what I can do | 00:47 |
| LaserJock | perhaps something useful related to packages, bzr branches, or bugs | 00:47 |
| bencrisford1 | there are already plenty, but ill get an EduBugs one? | 00:47 |
| LaserJock | I was thinking of something specifically for us | 00:48 |
| LaserJock | is there one that does both Ubuntu and Debian versions of packages? | 00:48 |
| bencrisford1 | errr | 00:48 |
| bencrisford1 | i dunno how id do packages one | 00:48 |
| bencrisford1 | but itd be easy to do bugs i think | 00:49 |
| bencrisford1 | in fact we got one or two on here now | 00:49 |
| bencrisford1 | lets see | 00:49 |
| bencrisford1 | bug 12345 | 00:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 12345 in isdnutils "isdn does not work, fritz avm (pnp?)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12345 | 00:49 |
| bencrisford1 | LaserJock: we have a bugs one | 00:49 |
| LaserJock | well, kinda | 00:50 |
| bencrisford1 | and a package one actually | 00:50 |
| bencrisford1 | !gedit | 00:50 |
| ubottu | Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code | 00:50 |
| LaserJock | for individual bugs it's ok | 00:50 |
| LaserJock | but I want better ones darn it :-) | 00:50 |
| bencrisford1 | !xchat | 00:50 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat | 00:50 |
| bencrisford1 | ubottu: Dance! | 00:50 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about Dance! | 00:50 |
| LaserJock | I want to be able to get a list (or a number if too many) of bugs for a specific package | 00:50 |
| bencrisford1 | ubottu: edubuntu... | 00:50 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about edubuntu... | 00:50 |
| bencrisford1 | thats useful | 00:51 |
| LaserJock | I'd also like for packages, what the versions are in Ubuntu and Debian | 00:51 |
| LaserJock | I don't need really a description | 00:51 |
| bencrisford1 | hang on im sure theres a way | 00:51 |
| LaserJock | rmadison gives you version info | 00:52 |
| bencrisford1 | here comes benbot | 00:56 |
| bencrisford1 | http://www.google.com | 00:57 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: www.google.com | 00:57 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: Error: "www.google.com" is not a valid command. | 00:57 |
| bencrisford1 | darn | 00:57 |
| bencrisford1 | lets work out how to use him :/ | 00:57 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: list URL | 00:58 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: last and stats | 00:58 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: URL www.google.com | 00:58 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: Error: The "URL" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "www.google.com" in it. Try "list URL" to see the commands in the "URL" plugin. | 00:58 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: list URL | 00:58 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: last and stats | 00:58 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: URL last www.google.com | 00:58 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: (url last [<channel>] [--{from,with,without,near,proto} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Gives the last URL matching the given criteria. --from is from whom the URL came; --proto is the protocol the URL used; --with is something inside the URL; --without is something that should not be in the URL; --near is something in the same message as the URL; If --nolimit is given, returns all the URLs that are found. (1 more message) | 00:58 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: list math | 00:59 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: base, calc, convert, icalc, rpn, and units | 00:59 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: calc | 00:59 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: (calc <math expression>) -- Returns the value of the evaluated <math expression>. The syntax is Python syntax; the type of arithmetic is floating point. Floating point arithmetic is used in order to prevent a user from being able to crash to the bot with something like '10**10**10**10'. One consequence is that large values such as '10**24' might not be exact. | 00:59 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: calc 2 + 2 | 00:59 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: 4 | 00:59 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: list Google | 01:00 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: Error: 'Google' is not a valid plugin. | 01:00 |
| bencrisford1 | LaserJock: Whaddya think of edubenbot? | 01:05 |
| bencrisford1 | ill add some stuff to him tommorrow | 01:05 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: calc 29382798279837198273987319827398127 + 123871928739873981279837987918279387 | 01:05 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc". | 01:05 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: Math calc 29382798279837198273987319827398127 + 123871928739873981279837987918279387 | 01:05 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: 153254727019800003222355946063790080 | 01:05 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: list Google | 01:06 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: cache, calc, fight, google, lucky, meta, phonebook, spell, and stats | 01:06 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: help Google calc | 01:06 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: (google calc <expression>) -- Uses Google's calculator to calculate the value of <expression>. | 01:06 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: help Google fight | 01:07 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: (google fight <search string> <search string> [<search string> ...]) -- Returns the results of each search, in order, from greatest number of results to least. | 01:07 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: list URL | 01:07 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: last and stats | 01:07 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: help URL last | 01:07 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: (url last [<channel>] [--{from,with,without,near,proto} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Gives the last URL matching the given criteria. --from is from whom the URL came; --proto is the protocol the URL used; --with is something inside the URL; --without is something that should not be in the URL; --near is something in the same message as the URL; If --nolimit is given, returns all the URLs that are found. (1 more message) | 01:07 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: last google.com | 01:08 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message) | 01:08 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: stats www.google.com | 01:08 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: (stats takes no arguments) -- Returns some statistics on the user database. | 01:08 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: Stats | 01:08 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: I have 1 registered users with 0 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. | 01:08 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: Stats owner | 01:09 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: (stats takes no arguments) -- Returns some statistics on the user database. | 01:09 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: Owner | 01:09 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: Error: "Owner" is not a valid command. | 01:09 |
| LaserJock | bencrisford1: maybe you should setup a temp channel to play with the bot | 01:10 |
| bencrisford1 | ok, soz | 01:11 |
| bencrisford1 | im done with playing now i think | 01:11 |
| bencrisford1 | mathbot can stay :) | 01:11 |
| MathBot | bencrisford1: Error: "can" is not a valid command. | 01:11 |
| bencrisford1 | MathBot: calc 2 + 2 | 01:12 |
| MathBot | bencrisford1: 4 | 01:12 |
| JoshuaRL | hey dudes | 01:20 |
| bencrisford1 | hey | 01:21 |
| bencrisford1 | LaserJock: This could come in useful... | 01:25 |
| bencrisford1 | you know on lp all the bug urls are really long | 01:25 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: ShrinkUrl tiny https://launchpad.net/some/random/shizzle | 01:26 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: http://tinyurl.com/qlt2sa | 01:26 |
| LaserJock | bencrisford1: perhaps so | 01:27 |
| bencrisford1 | mathbot is pretty nifty too | 01:27 |
| MathBot | bencrisford1: Error: "is" is not a valid command. | 01:27 |
| bencrisford1 | MathBot: calc 4372843798237498723984798 / 2128739182793872198379187 * 32179832791873981 + 31293791827391827 | 01:27 |
| MathBot | bencrisford1: 97397419453604064 | 01:27 |
| stgraber | ok, just finished all I had to do, good night guys | 01:32 |
| bencrisford1 | :D | 01:32 |
| stgraber | good luck bencrisford1 ;) | 01:32 |
| bencrisford1 | nah im off now is anyway | 01:32 |
| bencrisford1 | you win i guess | 01:32 |
| stgraber | hehe | 01:32 |
| bencrisford1 | c ya | 01:33 |
| bencrisford1 | dam! | 01:33 |
| bencrisford1 | I was meant to get a welcome message :'( | 01:33 |
| bencrisford1 | dam bot >: | 01:34 |
| Vantrax | lol | 01:39 |
| sbalneav | evening all | 01:50 |
| bencrisford1 | its mornin in the uk :P | 01:51 |
| sbalneav | Really? | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | hi sbalneav | 01:53 |
| sbalneav | Imagine that. | 01:53 |
| sbalneav | Hi LaserJock | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: I was excited to see your email to the sabayon list | 01:54 |
| sbalneav | Well, I think I might have found the problem.\ | 01:54 |
| sbalneav | I'm in the local anarcho-syndicalist cafe here, waiting for my son to come out of Piano lessons, so I'm not in a position to repair it RFN, but I'm going to kick it when I get back later. | 01:55 |
| bencrisford1 | LaserJock: Well, i'm off, the Bots have some nice features | 01:56 |
| bencrisford1 | you can leave notes for offline peeps to get when they join and stuff | 01:56 |
| bencrisford1 | but apparently the herald thing isnt working :( | 01:57 |
| bencrisford1 | night all | 01:57 |
| sbalneav | CrimsonChapeau stores their defaults for sabayon in .gconf.xml.defaults, but The One True Linux Distro (c) 2003-2009 Canonical inc. stores it in .gconf.path.defaults | 01:57 |
| sbalneav | since sabayon developers work for CrimsonChapeau..... | 01:57 |
| sbalneav | We have a path mismatch. | 01:57 |
| sbalneav | I'm gonna patch it up a bit later | 01:58 |
| sbalneav | Thing is, they embed the path in multiple places as a plaintext string in the code, so when I patch it, I'll extrapolate it out to a variable in the config.py.in file. Those patches I'll send upstream. | 01:59 |
| sbalneav | that way, in future, we'll only have to patch it in one place. | 01:59 |
| sbalneav | and I started looking at a design for the edubuntu-ldap-server metapackage. | 02:00 |
| sbalneav | after I get a functioning ladap server working, then I can attack the s-t-b problem | 02:01 |
| LaserJock | lol | 02:04 |
| LaserJock | CrimsonChapeau ... that rocks | 02:04 |
| EduBenBot | Announcement from my owner (bencrisford): So what do you all think of the Edubuntu bots? I have put EduBenBot (a mod of my own BenBot) in the channel, and MathBot so we have our very own calculator. You can type EduBenBot: list or MathBot: list to get a list of commands | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: yeah, I think half the battle with sabayon is to keep the devs (such as they are) honest about not being a Red Hat project | 02:06 |
| sbalneav | Boy, I'm sure glad we have a calculator bot now, the math I've had to do in this channel has been a real grind and it's just so hard to do applications->accessories->Calculator :) | 02:08 |
| bencrisford1 | Guys, have a go with my bots :( | 02:08 |
| bencrisford1 | play with mathbot | 02:08 |
| bencrisford1 | MathBot: calc 098309128309128 / 321093812093809128 * 2813092830192809c +298137982739812 | 02:08 |
| MathBot | bencrisford1: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1) | 02:08 |
| sbalneav | Do any of the bots have seen ? | 02:08 |
| bencrisford1 | MathBot: calc 098309128309128 / 321093812093809128 * 2813092830192809 +298137982739812 | 02:09 |
| MathBot | bencrisford1: 2.98999265934e+14 | 02:09 |
| bencrisford1 | svalneav: seen? | 02:09 |
| sbalneav | !seen bencrisford1 | 02:09 |
| ubottu | I have no seen command | 02:09 |
| sbalneav | Seen's the most useful command a bot can have | 02:09 |
| bencrisford1 | says it works :/ | 02:10 |
| bencrisford1 | hmmm | 02:10 |
| sbalneav | keeps track of all nicks in the channel | 02:10 |
| sbalneav | go to #ltsp | 02:10 |
| sbalneav | !seen jammcq | 02:10 |
| ubottu | I have no seen command | 02:10 |
| bencrisford1 | *sigh* ill make a seen bot | 02:10 |
| sbalneav | or you could just do apt-get install supybot, which has all of that stuff built in :) | 02:11 |
| bencrisford1 | thats what im using | 02:11 |
| bencrisford1 | !seen sbalneav | 02:12 |
| ubottu | I have no seen command | 02:12 |
| bencrisford1 | D= | 02:12 |
| sbalneav | so activate the seen command | 02:12 |
| bencrisford1 | ok | 02:12 |
| bencrisford1 | (02:12:40) bencrisford1: Owner enable seen | 02:12 |
| bencrisford1 | (02:12:40) EduBenBot: Error: That command wasn't disabled. | 02:12 |
| sbalneav | I'll be blunt: no one will ever use the math bit. | 02:12 |
| bencrisford1 | :P i will | 02:13 |
| sbalneav | How much math you planning on doing here? | 02:13 |
| bencrisford1 | MathBot: calc 388888888888888888888888888888888888888889 - 388888888888888888888888888888888888888888 | 02:13 |
| MathBot | bencrisford1: 0 | 02:13 |
| bencrisford1 | !seen MathBot | 02:13 |
| ubottu | I have no seen command | 02:13 |
| sbalneav | get the infobot + seen command going, you got a useful tool. | 02:14 |
| sbalneav | if you get the google apps license key (free) then you can get the google command going | 02:14 |
| sbalneav | which sometimes comes in handy | 02:14 |
| bencrisford1 | i have the google command going i think | 02:14 |
| sbalneav | !google foop | 02:14 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about google foop | 02:14 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: list | 02:15 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: Admin, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Herald, Misc, Owner, ShrinkUrl, Todo, and User | 02:15 |
| MathBot | Announcement from my owner (bencrisford): Ill sort it tommorrow | 02:16 |
| bencrisford1 | :D | 02:16 |
| sbalneav | If you're interested, I can mail you the config for my supybot that runs the ltsp channel | 02:17 |
| bencrisford1 | yes please :) | 02:17 |
| sbalneav | or you could just do apt-get install supybot, which has all of that stuff built in :)s | 02:18 |
| sbalneav | ergh | 02:18 |
| sbalneav | But don't run multiple bots, or you'll hack off the freenode admins | 02:18 |
| LaserJock | a seen command would be useful | 02:21 |
| sbalneav | yeah, it's probably the single most useful command in the #ltsp channel | 02:24 |
| NewbieBuntu | Hi | 02:25 |
| asanchez | Morning everybody | 07:07 |
| stgraber | LaserJock: ping | 08:09 |
| stgraber | LaserJock: who did we remove from the team ? I'm a bit lost there because looking at the member list I can't really see what the CC is complaining about. | 08:10 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: ^ | 08:10 |
| LaserJock | stgraber: I removed RichEd | 08:17 |
| stgraber | LaserJock: ah, ok | 08:20 |
| ogra | you should probably only have removed him from the admins and let him time out | 08:26 |
| ogra | though i dont think he has any interest in staying on the team | 08:26 |
| LaserJock | I guess | 08:27 |
| LaserJock | I couldn't care less | 08:27 |
| LaserJock | he was there because of his employment and when that ended he disappeared, he can easily be reinstated if he wants | 08:28 |
| LaserJock | but yeah, I probably shoulda just dropped him from admin | 08:29 |
| === nubae1 is now known as Nubae | ||
| asanchez | Hi pygi, I don't see you at the second breakfast :D | 10:07 |
| pygi | asanchez: second breakfast?!?!? | 10:07 |
| pygi | you mean in the lobby? | 10:07 |
| asanchez | yeah | 10:07 |
| pygi | asanchez: coming | 10:08 |
| pygi | if you need me? | 10:08 |
| asanchez | Im at room 2 | 10:09 |
| asanchez | we are planing to use OSD notifier to show users info about syncing process | 10:10 |
| asanchez | I want to explain you why we have to use syncing daemon | 10:11 |
| pygi | asanchez: oh, koi | 10:20 |
| pygi | oki | 10:20 |
| pygi | we'll meet during the lunch, so we can sit at the same table? | 10:20 |
| asanchez | yeah, of course | 10:21 |
| pygi | asanchez: :) | 10:22 |
| asanchez | I think its a good idea to lunch together as many edubuntu members as they can | 10:22 |
| pygi | asanchez: yup | 10:27 |
| bencrisford1 | stgraber: I guess you won last night | 10:34 |
| bencrisford1 | i slinked off at about quarter past 2 | 10:34 |
| highvoltage | morning asanchez | 10:35 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: I explained it in the mail I sent out, you're right we didn't deactivate anyone besides deactivating RichEd's EC membership | 10:35 |
| asanchez | morning highvoltage | 10:40 |
| asanchez | What do you think guadalinexedu team should begin to do for edubuntu? | 10:42 |
| highvoltage | asanchez: good question. I think we should make a time to get together to brainstorm on that a bit | 10:55 |
| highvoltage | asanchez: sorry for my laggy responses, I have to reboot every time my wifi crashes | 10:55 |
| asanchez | I have to do the same yesterday | 10:56 |
| pygi | highvoltage: we're doing that during lunch | 10:56 |
| asanchez | Its possible to use one free room for the next session? | 10:56 |
| asanchez | pygi, ok | 10:57 |
| asanchez | highvoltage, are you using ath5k driver? | 10:58 |
| highvoltage | oiuiooiu | 10:58 |
| asanchez | today I don't have any problem with wifi yet | 10:59 |
| highvoltage | oops, sorry about htat | 10:59 |
| highvoltage | I'm attending the next session in room 11 (lts releases) | 10:59 |
| highvoltage | asanchez: how about after the plenary sessions? | 11:00 |
| asanchez | I want to assist to OpenUp Certification site session | 11:00 |
| asanchez | after plenary | 11:02 |
| bencrisford2 | sbalneav: You around? I played with the .conf a bit | 11:07 |
| EduBenBot | Announcement from my owner (bencrisford): Hello | 11:07 |
| bencrisford2 | :D | 11:07 |
| bencrisford2 | "Seen" still aint workin | 11:08 |
| bencrisford2 | @list Seen | 11:09 |
| MathBot | bencrisford2: Error: 'Seen' is not a valid plugin. | 11:09 |
| bencrisford2 | !list Seen | 11:09 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford2: Error: 'Seen' is not a valid plugin. | 11:09 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about list Seen | 11:09 |
| bencrisford2 | $list google | 11:36 |
| bencrisford2 | $ list google | 11:36 |
| bencrisford2 | $ list google | 11:37 |
| bencrisford2 | $list Google | 11:37 |
| bencrisford2 | @list Google | 11:37 |
| MathBot | bencrisford2: Error: 'Google' is not a valid plugin. | 11:37 |
| bencrisford2 | :list Google | 11:38 |
| bencrisford2 | ?list Google | 11:42 |
| bencrisford2 | !! list Google | 11:42 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford2: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 11:42 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about list Google | 11:42 |
| bencrisford2 | @ calc 2 + 2 | 11:42 |
| MathBot | bencrisford2: 4 | 11:42 |
| sbalneav | Morning all | 14:55 |
| bencrisford2 | morning | 14:58 |
| bencrisford2 | sbalneav: I got the google thing working i think | 14:58 |
| bencrisford2 | EduBenBot: list Google | 14:58 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford2: cache, calc, fight, google, lucky, meta, phonebook, spell, and stats | 14:58 |
| sbalneav | EduBenBot: google sbalneav | 15:04 |
| EduBenBot | sbalneav: Error: You must have a free Google web services license key in order to use this command. You can get one at <http://code.google.com/apis/soapsearch/>. Once you have one, you can set it with the command "config supybot.plugins.Google.licenseKey <key>". | 15:04 |
| sbalneav | No, you don't :) | 15:04 |
| bencrisford1 | ill get on it :P | 15:04 |
| sbalneav | What's your email? I'll send you my bot's config | 15:05 |
| bencrisford1 | ben@freeyourpc.tk | 15:05 |
| bencrisford1 | :) | 15:05 |
| sbalneav | Sent | 15:11 |
| bencrisford1 | ty | 15:11 |
| bencrisford1 | sbalneav: received :) | 15:15 |
| bencrisford1 | ?list Google | 15:19 |
| bencrisford1 | ? list Google | 15:19 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: list Google | 15:19 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: cache, calc, fight, google, lucky, meta, phonebook, spell, and stats | 15:19 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: google bencrisford | 15:19 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: Error: You must have a free Google web services license key in order to use this command. You can get one at <http://code.google.com/apis/soapsearch/>. Once you have one, you can set it with the command "config supybot.plugins.Google.licenseKey <key>". | 15:19 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: Seen | 15:25 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: Error: "Seen" is not a valid command. | 15:25 |
| sbalneav | EduBenBot: seen jammcq | 15:25 |
| EduBenBot | sbalneav: Error: "seen" is not a valid command. | 15:25 |
| sbalneav | Still haven't got it enabled. | 15:26 |
| bencrisford1 | i swear i enabled it | 15:26 |
| bencrisford1 | i seriously did :P | 15:26 |
| sbalneav | EduBenBot: status | 15:27 |
| EduBenBot | sbalneav: Error: "status" is not a valid command. | 15:27 |
| sbalneav | EduBenBot: list | 15:27 |
| EduBenBot | sbalneav: Admin, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Google, Herald, Misc, News, Owner, ShrinkUrl, Todo, Unix, and User | 15:27 |
| bencrisford1 | EduBenBot: Owner enable Seen | 15:27 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford1: Error: That command wasn't disabled. | 15:27 |
| sbalneav | Typically, if you want to send it admin commands, you need to /query it, so you open up a private channel | 15:28 |
| bencrisford1 | i do | 15:28 |
| bencrisford1 | im just showing that it dont work | 15:28 |
| sbalneav | how did you install supybot? from the standart packages? | 15:29 |
| bencrisford1 | yeah | 15:30 |
| bencrisford1 | tsimpson told me to | 15:30 |
| * sbalneav shrugs | 15:30 | |
| sbalneav | Hmmm | 15:49 |
| sbalneav | + if not self.client.dir_exists(dir): | 15:50 |
| sbalneav | + (src_client, src_address) = gconfsource.get_client_and_address_for_path( | 15:50 |
| sbalneav | + os.path.join(util.get_home_dir(), '.gconf')) | 15:50 |
| sbalneav | + (dst_client, dst_address) = gconfsource.get_client_and_address_for_path( | 15:50 |
| sbalneav | + os.path.join(util.get_home_dir(), '.gconf.xml.defaults')) | 15:50 |
| sbalneav | I see no mention of the MANDATORY settings there. | 15:50 |
| sbalneav | perhaps that's the problem. | 15:51 |
| bencrisford1 | uh? Thats a bit complex for my tiny brain to process | 15:54 |
| sbalneav | Well, those are the kind of problems we need to solve here :) | 15:55 |
| bencrisford2 | @ list | 16:07 |
| MathBot | bencrisford2: Admin, Channel, Config, Math, Misc, Owner, and User | 16:07 |
| Ahmuck | *yawn*, good morning | 16:09 |
| bencrisford2 | mornin | 16:13 |
| EduBenBot | Announcement from my owner (bencrisford): Hey LaserJock :), do you want admin on the bot? | 16:37 |
| LaserJock | not particularly | 16:38 |
| bencrisford2 | oh :( | 16:38 |
| bencrisford2 | i enabled seen | 16:39 |
| bencrisford2 | EduBenBot: list Seen | 16:39 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford2: any, last, seen, and user | 16:39 |
| LaserJock | cool | 16:40 |
| bencrisford2 | EduBenBot: user bencrisford2 | 16:42 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford2: bencrisford was last seen in #edubuntu 3 minutes and 10 seconds ago: <bencrisford2> EduBenBot: list Seen | 16:42 |
| bencrisford2 | EduBenBot: user LaserJock | 16:42 |
| EduBenBot | bencrisford2: Error: I can't find LaserJock in my user database. If you didn't give a user name, then I might not know what your user is, and you'll need to identify before this command might work. | 16:42 |
| ikonia | oops, thought I was already in here | 16:54 |
| bencrisford2 | sbalneav: EduBenBots had to go :(, he was breaking the rules apparently :( | 17:11 |
| nubae | hmmm... | 17:17 |
| sbalneav | Did one of the freenode admins tell you this? | 17:18 |
| sbalneav | bencrisford2: Did one of the freenode admins tell you this? | 17:19 |
| vorian | what? | 17:19 |
| asanchez | Hi everybody! | 17:20 |
| vorian | sbalneav: bots are more than welcome on freenode as long as they behave and are allowed by the channel owner | 17:20 |
| bencrisford | sbalneav: The ubuntu IRC ops | 17:21 |
| vorian | they said only until they talk to laserjock | 17:23 |
| bencrisford | Well, yes.. | 17:23 |
| sbalneav | That's fine, it's not me wanting the bot anyway. bencrisford's trying to set one up. | 17:23 |
| sbalneav | aaaarrrrgh. | 17:24 |
| bencrisford | ? | 17:24 |
| sbalneav | I don't think the patch that was listed in the sabayon bug site for the paneldelegate.py problem is really doing what it is supposed to be. | 17:25 |
| bencrisford | oh :/ | 17:25 |
| bencrisford | who wrote it? | 17:26 |
| bencrisford | anyone id know? | 17:26 |
| sbalneav | It seems that it's hard-coded the copying of the gconf keys into $HOME/.gconf.xml.defaults, which works fine iff you blow away your gconf settings, and begin again. | 17:26 |
| sbalneav | however, MOST people are going to want to work/update on existing profiles, which means they really want to go after the .gconf.xml.mandatory tree, but the patch basically eliminates that entirely. | 17:27 |
| bencrisford | oh :/ | 17:28 |
| sbalneav | Sooo... back to square one. | 17:28 |
| sbalneav | iow, the patch fixes the crasher bug, but eliminates the desired functionality. | 17:29 |
| nubae | sbalneav: cant u take a snapshot and work off that? | 17:31 |
| nubae | regardless off where its stored? | 17:31 |
| sbalneav | Well, there's a fundamental difference in gconf between "default" and "mandatory" settings. | 17:32 |
| sbalneav | "default" settings only affect new users: i.e. if they have no current gconf info on a setting, give them this as the default/ | 17:32 |
| nubae | hmmm, right, so as long as u pick one to work off.... | 17:32 |
| nubae | just needs to be properly documented, I think people wont mind it so much, as long as it works... | 17:33 |
| sbalneav | Well, yeah, but sabayon gives you the option of marking any setting as either "mandatory" or "defailt" | 17:33 |
| nubae | yeah, what I'm saying is, take that out, simplify it | 17:33 |
| sbalneav | or, I could just fix the problem so it works properly :) | 17:34 |
| nubae | ok, but that sounded really complex | 17:34 |
| sbalneav | either way, it is. | 17:35 |
| nubae | I just came from setting up wiimote with whiteboard software, and then used classroom presenter to be able to draw on top of presentations | 17:35 |
| nubae | god it rocks... its like having a really big touchpad on the projector screen | 17:35 |
| nubae | and it works perfectly | 17:35 |
| bencrisford | yeah, we got them at school :) | 17:36 |
| nubae | so for under 50 bucks u have a fully functional whiteboard which can accept up to 4 concurrent drawers | 17:36 |
| bencrisford | LaserJock: My bots got me in trouble :S, so EduBenBot and MathBot are gone now :( | 17:36 |
| nubae | u need to calibrate the smoothing but then it is really great | 17:36 |
| sbalneav | sabayon's about 10k+ lines of python, either ripping out a chunk or fixing a chunk's going to be non-trivial. | 17:37 |
| sbalneav | :) | 17:37 |
| nubae | hi LaserJock | 17:37 |
| LaserJock | hi all | 17:37 |
| nubae | sbalneav: I hear ya | 17:37 |
| nubae | but from the user perspective, it doesn't need to have every possible option | 17:37 |
| bencrisford | LaserJock: Did you get that message about the bots - my internets dodgy :S | 17:37 |
| nubae | why do we need more bots? | 17:38 |
| bencrisford | we dont i guess | 17:38 |
| LaserJock | bencrisford: yes, I got it | 17:38 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, but we risk a divergence from other sabayons, if we only support mandatory keys, first question we'll face is "Well, on Fedora/OpenSuSE/Debian/etc. it works this way... why not here?" | 17:38 |
| sbalneav | I should have a look at the debian packages, see if they have any different patches than we have | 17:39 |
| nubae | well right now it don't work but on ubuntu ;-) | 17:39 |
| nubae | :p | 17:39 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: don't bother | 17:39 |
| sbalneav | Don't bother with? | 17:39 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: Debian is light years behind and as far as I can tell they don't particularly care for it | 17:39 |
| sbalneav | ah, ok | 17:39 |
| nubae | seems like a common policy across some of their maintainers | 17:40 |
| LaserJock | s/care for/maintain/ | 17:40 |
| LaserJock | Debian is very hit-or-miss | 17:40 |
| LaserJock | that's one of the reasons Ubuntu has team maintainership | 17:40 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: Debian unstable has 2.22.0 | 17:41 |
| LaserJock | though it might work because Debian's gnome is maybe less divergent than ours | 17:41 |
| nubae | oh LaserJock, did I get membership yesterday? I wasnt around towards the end | 17:42 |
| sbalneav | Well, I'm still hacking on it, gonna have to dig a bit deeper into the code. | 17:42 |
| nubae | I saw my name being called this morning :D | 17:42 |
| LaserJock | nubae: no, because we needed to have you there | 17:43 |
| LaserJock | nubae: we'll schedule another meeting | 17:44 |
| LaserJock | the CC is kinda on our back so we need to have formal meetings, etc. | 17:44 |
| bencrisford | LaserJock: we could have one general meeting, one council meeting and one dev meeting | 17:46 |
| bencrisford | say per month ? | 17:46 |
| LaserJock | that's an interesting idea | 17:46 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure we have enough peope to really need to separate like that right now | 17:46 |
| bencrisford | yeah, but thats what we can aim for | 17:47 |
| asanchez | Hi erosa | 17:47 |
| LaserJock | but it's a good idea for the future at the very least | 17:47 |
| bencrisford | But at the moment we only need a generalised meeting i guess | 17:47 |
| bencrisford | because there isnt much need for council meeting atm | 17:47 |
| bencrisford | its not like there's gonna be many (if any) new member applicants soon probably | 17:48 |
| bencrisford | and we only have 4 devs :P | 17:48 |
| * vorian offers help if needed | 17:51 | |
| LaserJock | vorian: does Kubuntu ever have problems with having ~kubuntu-members housing PPAs? | 17:52 |
| vorian | LaserJock: no | 17:53 |
| vorian | it was tricky when we had 3.5 and 4.0 | 17:53 |
| vorian | so the kubuntu-members-kde4 was created | 17:54 |
| vorian | but now, you can have multiple ppa's | 17:55 |
| vorian | but kubuntu has like 10 different ppas right now - it's getting hard to keep track of | 17:55 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: ping | 18:11 |
| * bencrisford might make an edubuntu poster... :/ | 19:27 | |
| * Lns commends bencrisford for making a poster, as he is going to be making a t-shirt design :) | 19:28 | |
| bencrisford | nic | 19:29 |
| bencrisford | nice* | 19:29 |
| bencrisford | cafe-press? | 19:29 |
| bencrisford | back in half an hour, then ill get cracking | 19:31 |
| sbalneav | Hmmm, anyone know how I can register my gpgkey with an agent, so I don't have to keep entering it twice when I do a debuild -S -sa? | 19:42 |
| sbalneav | Unfortunately, I picked a very VERY long passphrase | 19:42 |
| sbalneav | and it's a pita to keep enterening it twice for every build | 19:43 |
| vorian | sbalneav: devscripts | 19:43 |
| sbalneav | So I just type "devscripts" | 19:43 |
| sbalneav | ? | 19:43 |
| vorian | no, you edit /etc/devscripts.cfg | 19:44 |
| * vorian finds | 19:44 | |
| vorian | there are also other ways to do it, this is how I do it | 19:44 |
| vorian | # GPG keyid to use (-k option) | 19:45 |
| vorian | DEBSIGN_KEYID=(yourkey) | 19:45 |
| vorian | it's like line 228 | 19:45 |
| sbalneav | Didn't help | 19:52 |
| sbalneav | ah, well | 19:52 |
| vorian | also, in your bash rc, do: | 19:53 |
| vorian | eh, nope | 19:54 |
| vorian | sbalneav: do you have devscripts installed? | 19:54 |
| * bencrisford has an idea for a poster :) | 19:58 | |
| bencrisford | Lns: You interested? Id quite like your opinion | 19:59 |
| Lns | bencrisford: sure | 19:59 |
| bencrisford | Well you know like the pictures you see which go from ape to modern day human | 19:59 |
| Lns | yea | 20:00 |
| bencrisford | like the "evolution timeline" sorta thing | 20:00 |
| bencrisford | well i thought | 20:00 |
| bencrisford | for an edubuntu poster | 20:00 |
| bencrisford | you could have like a young kid playing on a computer | 20:00 |
| bencrisford | then the kid gradually gets older | 20:00 |
| bencrisford | and there you have it | 20:00 |
| sbalneav | fixed it. | 20:00 |
| bencrisford | something like that Lns | 20:00 |
| Lns | bencrisford: sounds like a cool idea | 20:01 |
| sbalneav | installed gnupg-agent, added "use-agent" to my gpg.conf file, logged out and in again. | 20:01 |
| bencrisford | Lns: Might be tricky though :/ | 20:01 |
| Lns | bencrisford: yeah. Getting the actual art done isn't easy if you're not a graphics artist :) | 20:02 |
| bencrisford | i do quite a bit of graphics | 20:02 |
| bencrisford | but not so much recently | 20:02 |
| bencrisford | i think ill start off with a different poster | 20:04 |
| bencrisford | a simple one | 20:04 |
| * Lns really likes the 3d tuxes over at http://tux.crystalxp.net/en.htm | 20:04 | |
| bencrisford | which just captures edubuntu cleanly, but i might work on the evolution one, it might even make a good shirt design | 20:04 |
| bencrisford | Lns: yeah they're nice | 20:04 |
| Lns | bencrisford: would you be able to work with those at all? For example, http://tux.crystalxp.net/en.id.1764-overlord59-tux-teacher.html | 20:05 |
| Lns | I would love to have that modified so the eyes aren't crossed | 20:05 |
| Lns | and maybe sitting down at a computer in a classroom or lab | 20:05 |
| Lns | (and without the blue splatters...wtf heh) | 20:05 |
| bencrisford | hould be quite straightforward | 20:05 |
| bencrisford | ill get on it | 20:05 |
| Lns | really? | 20:05 |
| Lns | sweet! | 20:06 |
| bencrisford | yeah, dunno about sitting down at a computer... | 20:06 |
| Lns | well that was just an idea | 20:06 |
| bencrisford | is that image freely licesnsed? | 20:06 |
| Lns | the teacher tux thing though...that would go well =) | 20:06 |
| bencrisford | yeah | 20:06 |
| Lns | says 'gnu lgpl' | 20:06 |
| bencrisford | oh ok, yeah i guess we can use it | 20:07 |
| bencrisford | but if we do we better contact the original creator | 20:07 |
| bencrisford | let him know | 20:07 |
| Lns | I PM'd the author but i dunno if he speaks english | 20:07 |
| Lns | waiting for contact back.. | 20:07 |
| bencrisford | im sure we have a few languages round here anyway | 20:07 |
| Lns | did that yesterday | 20:07 |
| Lns | ok..i'm afk for an hour or so, lemme know if you come up with anything bencrisford! | 20:07 |
| bencrisford | ok sure :) | 20:08 |
| sbalneav | Well, if I backout the paneldelegate patch, editing an existing profile works a treat. However, editing a NEW profile crashes the edit window, so it's likely just a case that initial .gconf.* structures haven't been created. | 20:16 |
| sbalneav | bencrisford: edubuntu alread has a logo. It's the ubuntu "circle" with the one raised "hand" | 20:17 |
| sbalneav | i.e. http://martinpihl.dk/words/imgs/edubuntu_logo.png | 20:17 |
| bencrisford | i know | 20:17 |
| bencrisford | im not designing a logo :) | 20:17 |
| bencrisford | im making posters | 20:18 |
| bencrisford | and modding a pic for Lns | 20:18 |
| sbalneav | Well, sure, but if you're makeing posters, I'd have thought we'd want to stick to using just our logo | 20:19 |
| sbalneav | as opposed to putting a bunch of other pictures on there. | 20:19 |
| bencrisford | were going to stick to the logo | 20:24 |
| sbalneav | ok | 20:24 |
| bencrisford | but its fine to put other pics also | 20:24 |
| bencrisford | a poster needs to be unique | 20:24 |
| bencrisford | it could have a big teacher-tux in the middle saying "woot edubuntu" | 20:24 |
| bencrisford | and the logo at the bottom | 20:24 |
| bencrisford | and some links :) | 20:24 |
| bencrisford | i made an ubuntu poster with no logo on, and its been surprisingly successful :/ | 20:25 |
| sbalneav | Whoohoo, made contact with Sayamindu in #sabayon on irc.gnome.org | 21:26 |
| sbalneav | He's going to help me track this down. | 21:26 |
| Lns | nice! | 21:26 |
| Lns | bencrisford: I hope you aren't serious about the tux teacher saying 'woot' ... ;) | 21:28 |
| Ahmuck | bencrisford: link? | 21:32 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: pong | 21:35 |
| === hibana_ is now known as hibana | ||
| sbalneav | Anybody in here interested in talking about what we want for ldap support? | 21:45 |
| Lns | sbalneav: if you want a non-coder's perspective, sure | 21:48 |
| sbalneav | Well, my opinion is that we should ship a meta package that sets up a "default" schema set + ou's on the open ldap server. | 21:49 |
| sbalneav | So, we'd have 2 metapackages | 21:49 |
| sbalneav | 1) edubuntu-ldap-server, which depends on slapd | 21:49 |
| sbalneav | 2) edubuntu-ldap-client, which uses the authtool to point at a supplied server. | 21:50 |
| sbalneav | Now that Ubuntu's openldap supports the cn=config DIT, loading the schemas we need, and creating the ou's can all be done in a postinst script. | 21:51 |
| sbalneav | We can use the standard dc=your,dc=doimainname scheme for creating the entries. | 21:52 |
| Lns | nice | 21:52 |
| sbalneav | and if the network isn't sophisticated enough to have a FQDN, we can just default to "edubuntu.org" | 21:52 |
| Lns | question: should we be naming this edubuntu-ldap-* ? Or would that be limiting the potential of its use cases? | 21:53 |
| sbalneav | Well, in the beginning, we can name it that, and if it becomes desired to use it in a wider use case, it can be renamed. | 21:54 |
| Lns | gotcha | 21:54 |
| Lns | Obviously I'm sure TONS of people would want native ldap auth support | 21:55 |
| bencrisford | Lns: I made some progress with the pic | 22:00 |
| bencrisford | there is no paint on the techers overall | 22:01 |
| bencrisford | and no background | 22:01 |
| Lns | bencrisford: cool!! | 22:03 |
| sbalneav | Lns: pop quiz: on your box, what does "hostname -d" return? | 22:04 |
| sbalneav | bencrisford: you too. | 22:04 |
| Lns | uhh | 22:04 |
| Lns | domain name? | 22:05 |
| sbalneav | no, I want to know what it actually returns :) | 22:05 |
| bencrisford | nothing for me | 22:05 |
| sbalneav | ok, that's fine. | 22:05 |
| sbalneav | Lns: you? | 22:06 |
| Lns | oh, heh | 22:06 |
| Lns | LNS-localnet | 22:06 |
| Lns | for me | 22:06 |
| bencrisford | ben@ben-laptop:~$ hostname -d | 22:07 |
| bencrisford | ben@ben-laptop:~$ | 22:07 |
| bencrisford | :( :P | 22:07 |
| sbalneav | Hmm, so if you had an ldap config that had things like uid=lns,ou=users,dc=LNS,dc=localnet, and that happened automatically, is that ok with you, or would you want the option to plug in a "proper" domainname | 22:11 |
| bencrisford | i wouldnt care tbh :P, not that i fully understand what you're on about | 22:12 |
| sbalneav | bencrisford: We'd just default yours to "edubuntu.org" | 22:12 |
| bencrisford | default my what | 22:12 |
| bencrisford | what are we talking about? | 22:12 |
| sbalneav | ldap config | 22:12 |
| bencrisford | ok... | 22:12 |
| sbalneav | directory for shared login resources | 22:12 |
| bencrisford | right. is this for edubuntu then? | 22:13 |
| sbalneav | yes. | 22:13 |
| bencrisford | for the project or the product? | 22:14 |
| bencrisford | is this a feature for edubuntu or a helper for dev? | 22:14 |
| * bencrisford is confused :( | 22:14 | |
| sbalneav | schools that have multiple edubuntu servers will probably want to have a shared login resource. | 22:14 |
| bencrisford | yeah, ok i get it :) | 22:15 |
| sbalneav | On later tonight. | 22:23 |
| sbalneav | heading for home. | 22:23 |
| bencrisford | ok | 22:23 |
| bencrisford | bye | 22:23 |
| bencrisford | highvoltage: ping | 22:24 |
| Lns | sbalneav: sorry | 22:25 |
| Lns | was on phone | 22:25 |
| Lns | sbalneav: I think it would be ok, maybe if there was some sort of "summary" or something, and be able to quit out before it applies it all | 22:26 |
| Lns | i know lots of people (myself) might want to change their "domain" before applying stuff like this to ldap, just because you throw it together...but that might just be me | 22:27 |
| bencrisford | :( the username ben on launchpad is taken :( | 22:30 |
| bencrisford | mines a bit boring atm | 22:30 |
| bencrisford | what shall i change it to? | 22:30 |
| bencrisford | :P | 22:30 |
| Lns | heh | 22:32 |
| Lns | bencrisford might make it streamlined =) | 22:32 |
| bencrisford | streamlined? :/ | 22:33 |
| Lns | well, the same as on here =) | 22:33 |
| bencrisford | it is the same as here :/ | 22:33 |
| bencrisford | :p | 22:33 |
| Lns | i'm saying make your un on lp bencrisford | 22:34 |
| bencrisford | it is | 22:34 |
| Lns | well what's yer problem then?? =p | 22:34 |
| Lns | oh you want to change bencrisford to something else | 22:35 |
| bencrisford | yeah | 22:35 |
| bencrisford | Lns: what do you reckon then? | 22:38 |
| bencrisford | for a name | 22:38 |
| Lns | eduBENtu? =p | 22:38 |
| Lns | hehehe | 22:38 |
| bencrisford | lol, i actually name some stuff ubentu when i cant think of a name :P | 22:38 |
| Lns | ;) | 22:39 |
| bencrisford | what about bmc? or does that sound like the BNP? | 22:39 |
| Lns | i think it sounds fine =) | 22:40 |
| Lns | a name is just a name..it's in what you do that will make it famous ;) | 22:40 |
| bencrisford | i already am famous thank you very much! | 22:40 |
| highvoltage | bencrisford: pong | 22:40 |
| Lns | =p | 22:40 |
| bencrisford | highvoltage: Was gonna let you know that ive subscribed to your blog :) | 22:41 |
| bencrisford | theres a new member of your fan club :D | 22:41 |
| highvoltage | bencrisford: hehe :) | 22:41 |
| highvoltage | bencrisford: maybe even the first! | 22:41 |
| bencrisford | haha, i doubt it | 22:41 |
| bencrisford | although the feed was somewhat hard to find | 22:41 |
| bencrisford | i only managed it because I have a wp blog also | 22:41 |
| bencrisford | there was no button i could see :/ | 22:42 |
| bencrisford | highvoltage: How would we get a bzr branch for marketing materials to be uploaded to | 22:45 |
| asanchez | Hi everybody! | 23:32 |
| Lns | hey asanchez | 23:32 |
| asanchez | Hi Lns | 23:34 |
| bencrisford | Hey asanchez | 23:54 |
| bencrisford | Lns: Ive finished a bit of a draught of a poster im working on | 23:54 |
| bencrisford | it doesnt look as good as i hoped | 23:54 |
| bencrisford | and its a bit cluttered | 23:55 |
| bencrisford | but im fairly pleased | 23:55 |
| Lns | bencrisford: url me | 23:55 |
| bencrisford | i was really pleased with my catch-line | 23:55 |
| bencrisford | "Learn to love, and love to learn, with Edubuntu" | 23:55 |
| Lns | awwww | 23:55 |
| Lns | :) | 23:55 |
| bencrisford | ill upload it | 23:56 |
| Lns | makes me think of a big cuddly teddy bear :) | 23:56 |
| bencrisford | bare in mind its blurry and fuzzy in places and needs work | 23:56 |
| Lns | np | 23:57 |
| bencrisford | its a bit cluttered small | 23:57 |
| bencrisford | text too big one place, too small the other :/ | 23:57 |
| bencrisford | http://bencrisford.exofire.net/poster-temp1.pdf | 23:58 |
| bencrisford | Lns: ^ | 23:58 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
