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rockstarNo00:10
rockstarEr, looks like he left00:11
wgranthe did, yes.00:12
wgrantThey have a habit of doing that a couple of minutes before I attempt to answer.00:12
rockstarwgrant, yeah, kinda makes you wonder if they really wanted an answer.  :)00:27
ibuclawhi, I'd like to report some spam on launchpad I got through the mail just now.01:03
ibuclawlink is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/141418/comments/6801:03
ubottuUbuntu bug 141418 in kde4libs "klauncher crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,Fix released]01:03
vadi2What can cause a "./configure: Permission denied" error while building a package? The configure script is just owned by the user when the package was uploaded...03:11
wgrantvadi2: Is it executable?03:16
vadi2no :/03:16
vadi2going to try with that on03:17
vadi2heh. the animated build icons are nice.03:23
jmlUrsinha: what now?08:12
bfillerany LOSA's online who can help me increase the size of a PPA?08:33
maxbbfiller: It's the middle of UDS week... people are likely to be in short supply - you'd be better off filing a question08:50
maxbhttps://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+addquestion08:51
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kirklandcan someone approve the request for a 'byobu' mailing list?08:54
Ursinhaherb, are you around?08:55
Ursinhawe need some loggerhead poking..08:55
mwhudsonkirkland: if ff un-greys, yes08:55
mwhudsonUrsinha: i can do that08:55
Ursinhamwhudson, thanks :)08:55
bigjoolskikland: done08:55
kirklandmwhudson: heh, thx08:55
mwhudsonkirkland: done08:56
bigjools*kirkland* that is08:56
kirklandmwhudson: rock on!08:56
Ursinhabigjools, you should try tab key08:56
kirklandbigjools: cheers, man08:56
bigjoolsUrsinha: shut up flu-woman!08:56
Ursinhalol08:56
* bigjools thinks about moving to a different couch08:56
Ursinhabigjools, you're done already08:57
wgrantHow completely has the flu taken over UDS so far?08:57
Ursinhawgrant, almost took all over08:57
mwhudsonoh08:57
bigjoolsdo hangovers count?08:57
jblount_wgrant: Looking around the room, it's taken over almost everyone :)08:57
mwhudsoni think bigjools beat me to it08:57
* mwhudson goes to attack codebounce08:57
bigjoolsmwhudson: yes I did :008:57
mwhudsonit doesn't seem to be particularly devastating, it's not keeping people away from the event08:57
wgrantOnly a few people got it really badly last time.08:58
mwhudsonbut lots of people are snuffling08:58
Ursinhawell, no one dies, so that's good08:58
wgrantmwhudson: Thanks - I ran into its 502ness a couple of hours ago.08:58
wgrantA good start, yes.08:58
mwhudsonwgrant: hours?08:58
Ursinha*died08:58
wgrantmwhudson: Yes.08:58
mwhudsonsigh08:58
jblount_Zombie hackers08:59
Ursinhahahahaha08:59
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mwhudsonyay deadlocks08:59
wgrantmwhudson: It was definitely broken exactly two hours ago, but I'm not sure how long before.09:00
mwhudsonit's bounced09:00
wgrantGreat.09:00
wgrantI hadn't seen it die for quite a while.09:00
mwhudsonyeah09:00
mwhudsonit's a different way of dying09:00
mwhudsonit used to slowly consume all memory in the box and then swap to death09:01
wgrantYep.09:01
wgrantWhat now?09:01
mwhudsonnow it deadlocks09:01
mwhudsonin logging, of all places09:01
wgrantHaha.09:01
wgrantNice, nice...09:01
wgrantHow much of ~launchpad is at UDS?09:02
mwhudsonnot sure09:02
mwhudsonhalf?09:02
wgrantAh.09:03
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pooliebigjools: you asked me something last night about a ppa bug?10:45
pooliehello wgrant10:45
wgrantHi poolie.10:47
bigjoolspoolie: your bug about the duplicate PPAs on the +ppas page didn't make it clear which part of the page, but I guess it's the top 5 listing?10:52
pooliebug 380981?10:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 380981 in soyuz "PPA list doesn't distinguish different per-person PPAs" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38098110:55
poolieoh huh10:55
pooliewhat i actually meant was https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=10:55
bigjoolspoolie: ah right, yes I'll fix that, thanks for filing the bug10:58
poolieit's not a big deal11:03
pooliei think seeing all the recent uploads might be more exciting as a way to show how much it's being used11:04
pooliewhich was the other bug11:04
poolieshowing recent 5 shows some stuff is happening11:04
bigjoolsyeah that would be quite nice too11:07
pooliehaving thousands of users and packages is really pretty impressive but it's not very obvious to someone visiting launchpad.net that this is true11:08
wgrantSoyuz has no site root to show things off.11:11
bigjoolsthat might change :)11:11
wgrantThe only place it can show off is under that obscure PPAs tab on the distro page.11:11
wgrantMight it?11:11
poolieso under the search box on the launchpad.net home page, there are counts of some objects11:12
poolieit would be nice to have "12345 packages" and link that to this list11:12
bigjoolswe were thinking of having a packages tab. nothing definite though11:12
poolie+111:12
poolieyou can be puce :)11:12
wgrantbigjools: I thought you could do that, but then what do you do for packages?11:12
bigjoolsit was beuno's idea in fact11:12
wgrantActually, I guess it's no different than what you have to do on branches.11:13
wgrantYou do need to solve the project<->packages link finding problem fairly urgently, and that sounds like a good way to do it.11:13
beunowell11:14
beunothe reason OI've backed off of a pacakges tab11:14
* bigjools hides11:14
beunois that you have bugs for packages11:14
beunoso you would be on 2 tabs at the same time11:14
beunonot sure what to do there11:14
beunoI welcome ideas  :)11:14
wgrantbeuno: Right, that was my concern I mentioned badly above.11:14
wgrantAlthough most packages don't have bugs (only distribution ones)11:15
pooliebeuno, well, we're still a bit schizo abotu whether the tabs take you to different aspects of the sameobject, or different apps, or up a level etc11:15
pooliethough generally clearer now11:16
pooliealso it's weird to use the word "apps" when the point is to be tightly integrated11:16
pooliea bit like the 80s/90s office suitething11:16
wgrantThey're not "apps" any more, are they?11:16
wgrantThey were facets for a while.11:16
wgrantThen I think that got replaced with apps.11:16
wgrantAnd now they're nothing.11:16
pooliethe other big thing is that i really think there should be something for downloads11:17
pooliei strongly suspect people click Code looking for them11:17
wgrantRight.11:17
pooliewe could test this i guess11:17
beunopoolie, I have a plan for that11:17
wgrantWhich is why Code might be going back to Branches.11:17
poolies/test/usertest11:17
beunosent to the list, buigs filed, etc11:17
poolieto rename it?11:18
wgrantHow do I go to downloads now? I've never clicked there.11:18
poolieor regarding downloads?11:18
beunoyes11:18
beunoto Branches11:18
beunoI think11:18
wgrantDo I have to hunt in the series listing for a release?11:18
beunoand downloads11:18
beunowell11:18
pooliewgrant: let's test it!11:18
poolietry!11:18
beunoyou saw the mock up11:18
* wgrant will be glad when discussion moves to a public mailing list.11:18
pooliei did, and it was nice11:18
wgrantSo, as I have a bit of knowledge of how Launchpad downloads work, I can make an educated guess as to where to find them.11:19
beunowgrant, I will expose them very prominently on the project page11:19
beunoVERY11:19
wgrantThe section in which I have to find them isn't even labeled 'Releases'11:20
pooliewgrant: did you actually find them?11:20
wgrantpoolie: I did, although the download links are broken due to that bug.11:20
wgrantbeuno: I'm going to have to be able to set the current release somehow. I don't think that's possible now.11:21
wgrantBecause if you just show them in date order, there will be pre-releases of the development series shown first.11:21
beunowgrant, the latest one?11:21
wgrantWhich is very much not right.11:21
beunowhy not?11:22
wgrantEven excluding development/experimental series won't work, as I'll have RCs of point releases.11:22
wgrantI don't want my users to see an alpha of my development series as the most prominent release link!11:22
poolieyes i have a bug about grouping by release11:23
beunotrue11:24
pooliebut you're right that just ordering by date may not be enough11:24
beunowe can add a flag11:24
wgrantThat might work.11:24
wgrantBut I don't think so.11:24
pooliepossibly you want to classify releases somehow11:24
wgrantI'm going to want to do a security release on top of 1.0 (1.1), after I release 2.0.11:25
wgrantOr distros will get angry at me.11:25
wgrantBut end users want 2.0, not 1.1.11:25
poolieyeah11:25
pooliebut should 2.0alpha1 come ahead of 1.1? arguable11:25
wgrantThis is complicated.11:26
wgrantYou need ordering of series, hiding of some releases based on almost arbitrary criteria...11:27
wgrantAnd even then I'm sure there will be cases that don't fit.11:27
wgrantOK, I really can't work this out. I know there are working download links on /project/+download, but I cannot find a link to it anywhere.11:30
wgrant(this wouldn't be so important if bug #378740 was fixed... it seems it should be Critical)11:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 378740 in launchpad-registry "Invalid download link in milestone/release context" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37874011:31
* jpds pushes bigjools towards bug #28500311:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 285003 in soyuz "Launchpad API should enable build information changes" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28500311:38
A4TechHi, is there is a channel dedicated to the topic of how to compile packages?12:51
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pkernWhy aren't the binaries on https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/linux/2.6.30-7.8 not published yet?13:25
pkernOh, stuck in NEW, nevermind.13:27
LarstiQhmmm14:29
LarstiQpackages I built for a beta ppa have been copied to the release PPA, too early. Can I see why that happened? (or, who did that?)14:30
noodles775LarstiQ: Unfortunately when you look at the page for your release PPA and open one of the packages there, you'll see where it was copied from...14:34
noodles775but you already know that :/14:34
LarstiQyeah, to the one where I uploaded it to :)14:35
noodles775When it was published is the only other bit of info that might help...14:35
noodles775bigjools: ^^^14:35
LarstiQright, 13 hours ago.14:35
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LarstiQI can make a guess. I'll just delete the package for now14:35
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bigjoolswe don't store who copied it, we should probably do that14:44
LarstiQit's not a substitute for communication of course, but it makes it easier to know who to talk to :)14:45
pkernbigjools: No logs?14:49
bigjoolspkern: unfortunately not, I think we only log the user if something OOPSes (ironically)14:51
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mrevellandrea-bs: thanks for the typo fix!15:22
andrea-bsmrevell, thank you for the screencast :)15:22
mrevell:)15:22
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pooliejml, mwh, is it just me or is code.edge.launchpad.net again dropping ssh connections rather than rejecting them?16:19
poolieor maybe not me, but the network here16:19
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pmatulishow come i'm not allowed on code.launchpad.net ?18:47
vadi2I'm having difficulty finding how to add a new download for my project19:10
vadi2where is one supposed to add it?19:11
joeypmatulis, you should be able to access it?19:14
joeyvadi2, https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/FileDownloads19:15
vadi2or even better, how can I make a release. this has gotten to be awfully confusing.19:15
pmatulisjoey: not sure if that's a question or a statement19:15
vadi2mhm19:15
joeypmatulis, yes it should work. What sort of reaction are you getting?19:15
vadi2I got a series, and a milestone19:15
pmatulisjoey: it says "Not allowed here"19:15
pmatulisjoey: https://code.launchpad.net/19:16
joeypmatulis, hmm works for me....19:16
joeythat's odd19:16
joeylet me log out and try it19:16
vadi2alright, got it.19:17
joeypmatulis, works both ways. Try clearing your cache.19:17
pmatulisjoey: still doesn't work after clearing my FF cache19:18
joeypmatulis, hmm. Bad cookie is the only other thing I can think of19:19
joeypmatulis, do you get any sort of OOPS id?19:19
pmatulisjoey: no19:20
joeypmatulis, can you pastebin the contents of the error or send me a screenshot? joey@canonical.com19:21
pmatulisjoey: yes19:21
pmatulisjoey: got a little fire that needs stomping, i need to contact someone at uds, is there an irc channel?19:23
joeypmatulis, dunno. I'm not at UDS....which is why I'm actually on #launchpad ;-)19:23
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pmatulisjoey: ok19:24
joeypmatulis, it depends on who you need to contact I guess :-)19:24
joeypmatulis, you can always resort to mobile numbers on the directory.19:24
pmatulisjoey: yeah19:24
dblunt_is the launchpad platform offered standalone (either software or SaaS) if i wanted to use it to host a distinct set of projects and users?19:26
joeydblunt_, please email that question to feedback@launchpad.net19:28
dblunt_already done - yesterday - i'm just impatient for a response.  if that's the only way i can get an answer then i will wait.19:29
joeydblunt_, the short answer is. No.19:29
dblunt_thanks much.19:29
joeydblunt_, there's a longer answer :-)19:29
dblunt_okay, will wait for the internal communication.19:29
pmatulisjoey: email sent19:30
joeythank pmatulis.  herb is looking at the health of the servers now...  I've had other reports of time-outs.  I don't think they are related but that's why we have herb. :-)19:30
pmatulisjoey: ok19:30
joeywow pmatulis, you weren't kidding were you19:31
pmatulisjoey: no, but what were you expecting?19:31
joeypmatulis, something a little easier :-)  I'll get back to you on this.19:32
pmatulisjoey: heh, ok19:32
joeypmatulis, do you know which project you want to go to? I can get you a direct link to the code and see if that works for you19:36
pmatulisjoey: this came about b/c of matthew's utube video on sparklines, just wanted to check that out, so any project should do19:37
joeypmatulis, are you able to get to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/bzr-gtk  ?19:38
pmatulisjoey: yes19:38
joeypmatulis,  great. Can you get to https://code.edge.launchpad.net  ?19:39
pmatulisjoey: maybe cookie problem?  i see i have one called 'lp' and one called 'edge'19:40
joeyrockstar, conversation above :-)19:40
pmatulisjoey: no, that failed like before19:40
joeyok. rockstar let me know that there was a privacy issue with the cloud at one point.19:40
joeyseems like you can access everything but the front page19:41
pmatulisoh well19:41
joeyI'm hoping that rockstar will tell me it's either fixed and not committed or we need to open a new bug19:41
rockstarjoey, well, I'd say open a new bug.  If it's not committed yet, then we at least get to close a bug easily.19:42
rockstarjoey, closing fixed bugs is easier than fixing non-existent bugs.19:42
joeyok.  pmatulis do you have time to file that and attach your screenshot?19:43
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vadi2Hi. My download here is giving a 404 for some reason: https://launchpad.net/giftwrap/0.1x/0.1020:32
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joeyhey bac, how long does it take for a file upload to be stored in the librarian and available for download? I thought it was immediate? vadi2 seems to have an issue with https://edge.launchpad.net/giftwrap/0.1x/0.1021:00
gianmt_guys does launchpad offer tarballs hosting now?21:06
joeygianmt_, in the sense that you can push up a tarball as a file download, yes.21:07
joeygianmt_, https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/FileDownloads21:07
vadi2been so for a while, but it's broke on me atm21:07
vadi2(also hard to figure out! make a series, release, and then inside it add a download :()21:07
joeysinzui, improvement ideas. :-)  ^^21:08
A4TechFriends, I am unable to compile the package, where can I contact for help?21:08
vadi2On a PPA?21:08
A4Techyes21:08
gianmt_joey, thanks21:09
vadi2you can ask here then21:09
sinzuivadi2: joey: these are open bugs we hope to fix this release and in the next three releases.21:09
vadi2good stuff.21:09
joeyA4Tech, Have you seen the help pages? https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging21:10
gianmt_joey, as for improvement ideas, mass bug editing (change status) would be a good idea21:10
joeynifty, thanks sinzui.  I suspected you had something (well, several somethings) up your sleeve. :-)21:10
joeygianmt_, oh that's coming :-)21:10
sinzuivadi2: joey: Most of these issues are tackled in the 3.0 UI. We will be landing some enhancements before then.21:11
A4TechI have on the local machine-compiled packages, I have a file change. I try to do dput-f gtea gtea_0.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes but it is a letter21:11
vadi2sinzui: okay21:11
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A4Tech_SetupBidi('source'); ppa gtea that is not created, but how so? I have created it, and in my profile, it is21:12
A4Tech_SetupBidi('source'); -- oops21:13
A4Techvadi2: Do you have any ideas my problem?21:15
gianmt_joey, cool, I hope with an option "do not send emails" :)21:16
vadi2It seems that uploading project icons is broken too. It doesn't set them.21:22
A4Techvadi2: Do you have any ideas my problem?21:24
vadi2no, sorry21:24
A4Tech(21:24
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wgrantjoey: There's a bug (introduced in 2.2.5) that releases have broken file download links.22:46
wgrantjoey: But the ones at /project/+download work.22:46
sluukkonenhi, is ppa.launchpad.net ftpd down? I'm getting [Errno 111] Connection refused with dput. (with nc or ftp too)23:02
sluukkonenoh lol, _now_ it started working23:02
cprovsluukkonen: it was, just fixed.23:03
sluukkonenyeh.23:03
sluukkonenthanks anyway23:03
joeywgrant, interesting thanks. Filed I guess then? I'll have someone look at it tomorrow then23:14
wgrantjoey: It is. Bug #37874023:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 378740 in launchpad-registry "Invalid download link in milestone/release context" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37874023:18
joeysuper thanks wgrant23:23
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satirikanyone here could review my translation file on launchpad ?23:51
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satirik2anyone can tell me when people are not idle in this channel ?23:56

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