=== Jorjao is now known as Ursinha [00:10] No [00:11] Er, looks like he left [00:12] he did, yes. [00:12] They have a habit of doing that a couple of minutes before I attempt to answer. [00:27] wgrant, yeah, kinda makes you wonder if they really wanted an answer. :) [01:03] hi, I'd like to report some spam on launchpad I got through the mail just now. [01:03] link is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/141418/comments/68 [01:03] Ubuntu bug 141418 in kde4libs "klauncher crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,Fix released] [03:11] What can cause a "./configure: Permission denied" error while building a package? The configure script is just owned by the user when the package was uploaded... [03:16] vadi2: Is it executable? [03:16] no :/ [03:17] going to try with that on [03:23] heh. the animated build icons are nice. [08:12] Ursinha: what now? [08:33] any LOSA's online who can help me increase the size of a PPA? [08:50] bfiller: It's the middle of UDS week... people are likely to be in short supply - you'd be better off filing a question [08:51] https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+addquestion === mkorn is now known as thekorn [08:54] can someone approve the request for a 'byobu' mailing list? [08:55] herb, are you around? [08:55] we need some loggerhead poking.. [08:55] kirkland: if ff un-greys, yes [08:55] Ursinha: i can do that [08:55] mwhudson, thanks :) [08:55] kikland: done [08:55] mwhudson: heh, thx [08:56] kirkland: done [08:56] *kirkland* that is [08:56] mwhudson: rock on! [08:56] bigjools, you should try tab key [08:56] bigjools: cheers, man [08:56] Ursinha: shut up flu-woman! [08:56] lol [08:56] * bigjools thinks about moving to a different couch [08:57] bigjools, you're done already [08:57] How completely has the flu taken over UDS so far? [08:57] wgrant, almost took all over [08:57] oh [08:57] do hangovers count? [08:57] wgrant: Looking around the room, it's taken over almost everyone :) [08:57] i think bigjools beat me to it [08:57] * mwhudson goes to attack codebounce [08:57] mwhudson: yes I did :0 [08:57] it doesn't seem to be particularly devastating, it's not keeping people away from the event [08:58] Only a few people got it really badly last time. [08:58] but lots of people are snuffling [08:58] well, no one dies, so that's good [08:58] mwhudson: Thanks - I ran into its 502ness a couple of hours ago. [08:58] A good start, yes. [08:58] wgrant: hours? [08:58] *died [08:58] mwhudson: Yes. [08:58] sigh [08:59] Zombie hackers [08:59] hahahaha === jblount_ is now known as jblount [08:59] yay deadlocks [09:00] mwhudson: It was definitely broken exactly two hours ago, but I'm not sure how long before. [09:00] it's bounced [09:00] Great. [09:00] I hadn't seen it die for quite a while. [09:00] yeah [09:00] it's a different way of dying [09:01] it used to slowly consume all memory in the box and then swap to death [09:01] Yep. [09:01] What now? [09:01] now it deadlocks [09:01] in logging, of all places [09:01] Haha. [09:01] Nice, nice... [09:02] How much of ~launchpad is at UDS? [09:02] not sure [09:02] half? [09:03] Ah. === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville [10:45] bigjools: you asked me something last night about a ppa bug? [10:45] hello wgrant [10:47] Hi poolie. [10:52] poolie: your bug about the duplicate PPAs on the +ppas page didn't make it clear which part of the page, but I guess it's the top 5 listing? [10:55] bug 380981? [10:55] Launchpad bug 380981 in soyuz "PPA list doesn't distinguish different per-person PPAs" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/380981 [10:55] oh huh [10:55] what i actually meant was https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter= [10:58] poolie: ah right, yes I'll fix that, thanks for filing the bug [11:03] it's not a big deal [11:04] i think seeing all the recent uploads might be more exciting as a way to show how much it's being used [11:04] which was the other bug [11:04] showing recent 5 shows some stuff is happening [11:07] yeah that would be quite nice too [11:08] having thousands of users and packages is really pretty impressive but it's not very obvious to someone visiting launchpad.net that this is true [11:11] Soyuz has no site root to show things off. [11:11] that might change :) [11:11] The only place it can show off is under that obscure PPAs tab on the distro page. [11:11] Might it? [11:12] so under the search box on the launchpad.net home page, there are counts of some objects [11:12] it would be nice to have "12345 packages" and link that to this list [11:12] we were thinking of having a packages tab. nothing definite though [11:12] +1 [11:12] you can be puce :) [11:12] bigjools: I thought you could do that, but then what do you do for packages? [11:12] it was beuno's idea in fact [11:13] Actually, I guess it's no different than what you have to do on branches. [11:13] You do need to solve the project<->packages link finding problem fairly urgently, and that sounds like a good way to do it. [11:14] well [11:14] the reason OI've backed off of a pacakges tab [11:14] * bigjools hides [11:14] is that you have bugs for packages [11:14] so you would be on 2 tabs at the same time [11:14] not sure what to do there [11:14] I welcome ideas :) [11:14] beuno: Right, that was my concern I mentioned badly above. [11:15] Although most packages don't have bugs (only distribution ones) [11:15] beuno, well, we're still a bit schizo abotu whether the tabs take you to different aspects of the sameobject, or different apps, or up a level etc [11:16] though generally clearer now [11:16] also it's weird to use the word "apps" when the point is to be tightly integrated [11:16] a bit like the 80s/90s office suitething [11:16] They're not "apps" any more, are they? [11:16] They were facets for a while. [11:16] Then I think that got replaced with apps. [11:16] And now they're nothing. [11:17] the other big thing is that i really think there should be something for downloads [11:17] i strongly suspect people click Code looking for them [11:17] Right. [11:17] we could test this i guess [11:17] poolie, I have a plan for that [11:17] Which is why Code might be going back to Branches. [11:17] s/test/usertest [11:17] sent to the list, buigs filed, etc [11:18] to rename it? [11:18] How do I go to downloads now? I've never clicked there. [11:18] or regarding downloads? [11:18] yes [11:18] to Branches [11:18] I think [11:18] Do I have to hunt in the series listing for a release? [11:18] and downloads [11:18] well [11:18] wgrant: let's test it! [11:18] try! [11:18] you saw the mock up [11:18] * wgrant will be glad when discussion moves to a public mailing list. [11:18] i did, and it was nice [11:19] So, as I have a bit of knowledge of how Launchpad downloads work, I can make an educated guess as to where to find them. [11:19] wgrant, I will expose them very prominently on the project page [11:19] VERY [11:20] The section in which I have to find them isn't even labeled 'Releases' [11:20] wgrant: did you actually find them? [11:20] poolie: I did, although the download links are broken due to that bug. [11:21] beuno: I'm going to have to be able to set the current release somehow. I don't think that's possible now. [11:21] Because if you just show them in date order, there will be pre-releases of the development series shown first. [11:21] wgrant, the latest one? [11:21] Which is very much not right. [11:22] why not? [11:22] Even excluding development/experimental series won't work, as I'll have RCs of point releases. [11:22] I don't want my users to see an alpha of my development series as the most prominent release link! [11:23] yes i have a bug about grouping by release [11:24] true [11:24] but you're right that just ordering by date may not be enough [11:24] we can add a flag [11:24] That might work. [11:24] But I don't think so. [11:24] possibly you want to classify releases somehow [11:25] I'm going to want to do a security release on top of 1.0 (1.1), after I release 2.0. [11:25] Or distros will get angry at me. [11:25] But end users want 2.0, not 1.1. [11:25] yeah [11:25] but should 2.0alpha1 come ahead of 1.1? arguable [11:26] This is complicated. [11:27] You need ordering of series, hiding of some releases based on almost arbitrary criteria... [11:27] And even then I'm sure there will be cases that don't fit. [11:30] OK, I really can't work this out. I know there are working download links on /project/+download, but I cannot find a link to it anywhere. [11:31] (this wouldn't be so important if bug #378740 was fixed... it seems it should be Critical) [11:31] Launchpad bug 378740 in launchpad-registry "Invalid download link in milestone/release context" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/378740 [11:38] * jpds pushes bigjools towards bug #285003 [11:38] Launchpad bug 285003 in soyuz "Launchpad API should enable build information changes" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/285003 [12:51] Hi, is there is a channel dedicated to the topic of how to compile packages? === gord_ is now known as gord [13:25] Why aren't the binaries on https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/linux/2.6.30-7.8 not published yet? [13:27] Oh, stuck in NEW, nevermind. [14:29] hmmm [14:30] packages I built for a beta ppa have been copied to the release PPA, too early. Can I see why that happened? (or, who did that?) [14:34] LarstiQ: Unfortunately when you look at the page for your release PPA and open one of the packages there, you'll see where it was copied from... [14:34] but you already know that :/ [14:35] yeah, to the one where I uploaded it to :) [14:35] When it was published is the only other bit of info that might help... [14:35] bigjools: ^^^ [14:35] right, 13 hours ago. === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [14:35] I can make a guess. I'll just delete the package for now === asac_ is now known as asac [14:44] we don't store who copied it, we should probably do that [14:45] it's not a substitute for communication of course, but it makes it easier to know who to talk to :) [14:49] bigjools: No logs? [14:51] pkern: unfortunately not, I think we only log the user if something OOPSes (ironically) === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [15:22] andrea-bs: thanks for the typo fix! [15:22] mrevell, thank you for the screencast :) [15:22] :) === Nicke_ is now known as Nicke === MaWaLe1 is now known as MaWaLe [16:19] jml, mwh, is it just me or is code.edge.launchpad.net again dropping ssh connections rather than rejecting them? [16:19] or maybe not me, but the network here === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === MaWaLe1 is now known as MaWaLe [18:47] how come i'm not allowed on code.launchpad.net ? [19:10] I'm having difficulty finding how to add a new download for my project [19:11] where is one supposed to add it? [19:14] pmatulis, you should be able to access it? [19:15] vadi2, https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/FileDownloads [19:15] or even better, how can I make a release. this has gotten to be awfully confusing. [19:15] joey: not sure if that's a question or a statement [19:15] mhm [19:15] pmatulis, yes it should work. What sort of reaction are you getting? [19:15] I got a series, and a milestone [19:15] joey: it says "Not allowed here" [19:16] joey: https://code.launchpad.net/ [19:16] pmatulis, hmm works for me.... [19:16] that's odd [19:16] let me log out and try it [19:17] alright, got it. [19:17] pmatulis, works both ways. Try clearing your cache. [19:18] joey: still doesn't work after clearing my FF cache [19:19] pmatulis, hmm. Bad cookie is the only other thing I can think of [19:19] pmatulis, do you get any sort of OOPS id? [19:20] joey: no [19:21] pmatulis, can you pastebin the contents of the error or send me a screenshot? joey@canonical.com [19:21] joey: yes [19:23] joey: got a little fire that needs stomping, i need to contact someone at uds, is there an irc channel? [19:23] pmatulis, dunno. I'm not at UDS....which is why I'm actually on #launchpad ;-) === dblunt is now known as dblunt_ [19:24] joey: ok [19:24] pmatulis, it depends on who you need to contact I guess :-) [19:24] pmatulis, you can always resort to mobile numbers on the directory. [19:24] joey: yeah [19:26] is the launchpad platform offered standalone (either software or SaaS) if i wanted to use it to host a distinct set of projects and users? [19:28] dblunt_, please email that question to feedback@launchpad.net [19:29] already done - yesterday - i'm just impatient for a response. if that's the only way i can get an answer then i will wait. [19:29] dblunt_, the short answer is. No. [19:29] thanks much. [19:29] dblunt_, there's a longer answer :-) [19:29] okay, will wait for the internal communication. [19:30] joey: email sent [19:30] thank pmatulis. herb is looking at the health of the servers now... I've had other reports of time-outs. I don't think they are related but that's why we have herb. :-) [19:30] joey: ok [19:31] wow pmatulis, you weren't kidding were you [19:31] joey: no, but what were you expecting? [19:32] pmatulis, something a little easier :-) I'll get back to you on this. [19:32] joey: heh, ok [19:36] pmatulis, do you know which project you want to go to? I can get you a direct link to the code and see if that works for you [19:37] joey: this came about b/c of matthew's utube video on sparklines, just wanted to check that out, so any project should do [19:38] pmatulis, are you able to get to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/bzr-gtk ? [19:38] joey: yes [19:39] pmatulis, great. Can you get to https://code.edge.launchpad.net ? [19:40] joey: maybe cookie problem? i see i have one called 'lp' and one called 'edge' [19:40] rockstar, conversation above :-) [19:40] joey: no, that failed like before [19:40] ok. rockstar let me know that there was a privacy issue with the cloud at one point. [19:41] seems like you can access everything but the front page [19:41] oh well [19:41] I'm hoping that rockstar will tell me it's either fixed and not committed or we need to open a new bug [19:42] joey, well, I'd say open a new bug. If it's not committed yet, then we at least get to close a bug easily. [19:42] joey, closing fixed bugs is easier than fixing non-existent bugs. [19:43] ok. pmatulis do you have time to file that and attach your screenshot? === abentley1 is now known as abentley [20:32] Hi. My download here is giving a 404 for some reason: https://launchpad.net/giftwrap/0.1x/0.10 === mtaylor_ is now known as mtaylor [21:00] hey bac, how long does it take for a file upload to be stored in the librarian and available for download? I thought it was immediate? vadi2 seems to have an issue with https://edge.launchpad.net/giftwrap/0.1x/0.10 [21:06] guys does launchpad offer tarballs hosting now? [21:07] gianmt_, in the sense that you can push up a tarball as a file download, yes. [21:07] gianmt_, https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/FileDownloads [21:07] been so for a while, but it's broke on me atm [21:07] (also hard to figure out! make a series, release, and then inside it add a download :() [21:08] sinzui, improvement ideas. :-) ^^ [21:08] Friends, I am unable to compile the package, where can I contact for help? [21:08] On a PPA? [21:08] yes [21:09] joey, thanks [21:09] you can ask here then [21:09] vadi2: joey: these are open bugs we hope to fix this release and in the next three releases. [21:09] good stuff. [21:10] A4Tech, Have you seen the help pages? https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging [21:10] joey, as for improvement ideas, mass bug editing (change status) would be a good idea [21:10] nifty, thanks sinzui. I suspected you had something (well, several somethings) up your sleeve. :-) [21:10] gianmt_, oh that's coming :-) [21:11] vadi2: joey: Most of these issues are tackled in the 3.0 UI. We will be landing some enhancements before then. [21:11] I have on the local machine-compiled packages, I have a file change. I try to do dput-f gtea gtea_0.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes but it is a letter [21:11] sinzui: okay === kiko is now known as kiko-afk [21:12] _SetupBidi('source'); ppa gtea that is not created, but how so? I have created it, and in my profile, it is [21:13] _SetupBidi('source'); -- oops [21:15] vadi2: Do you have any ideas my problem? [21:16] joey, cool, I hope with an option "do not send emails" :) [21:22] It seems that uploading project icons is broken too. It doesn't set them. [21:24] vadi2: Do you have any ideas my problem? [21:24] no, sorry [21:24] ( === gary_poster_ is now known as gary_poster [22:46] joey: There's a bug (introduced in 2.2.5) that releases have broken file download links. [22:46] joey: But the ones at /project/+download work. [23:02] hi, is ppa.launchpad.net ftpd down? I'm getting [Errno 111] Connection refused with dput. (with nc or ftp too) [23:02] oh lol, _now_ it started working [23:03] sluukkonen: it was, just fixed. [23:03] yeh. [23:03] thanks anyway [23:14] wgrant, interesting thanks. Filed I guess then? I'll have someone look at it tomorrow then [23:18] joey: It is. Bug #378740 [23:18] Launchpad bug 378740 in launchpad-registry "Invalid download link in milestone/release context" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/378740 [23:23] super thanks wgrant === AnMaster is now known as AnMaster_ === AnMaster_ is now known as AnMaster [23:51] anyone here could review my translation file on launchpad ? === pkern_ is now known as pkern [23:56] anyone can tell me when people are not idle in this channel ?