[00:35] <BUGabundo> stupidest bug yet https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/380738
[00:35] <ubot4> BUGabundo: Error: This bug is private
[00:38] <bencrisford1> lol, ive had peope zoomed in on firefox pages
[00:38] <bencrisford1> and reporting it as bugs
[00:40] <hggdh> BUGabundo, the bug is now public
[00:43] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[00:44] <BUGabundo> bencrisford1: only believe it if I see it
[00:44] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: ^^^^
[00:44] <kklimonda> thanks hggdh :)
[00:45] <kklimonda> hggdh: bug 364433 - is it wishlist or low?
[00:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 364433 in empathy "IRC default settings for FreeNode have incorrect server hostname" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364433
[00:46] <kklimonda> also.. there was one more bug to set to Low now when you are here.. where were you, stupid bug..
[00:46] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: have you read it ?? ehehh that all bug should be *deleted*
[00:46] <hggdh> kklimonda, wish, yes
[00:46] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: why?
[00:47] <BUGabundo> its plain stupid
[00:47] <BUGabundo> and lots of ppl giving him even more attention
[00:47] <kklimonda> hggdh: set bug 364433 to low - see my comment
[00:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 364433 in empathy "IRC default settings for FreeNode have incorrect server hostname" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364433
[00:47] <BUGabundo> ups I just did
[00:47] <kklimonda> erm..
[00:47] <kklimonda> not this :D
[00:47] <BUGabundo> hggdh: actually it was Hobbsee to set it private
[00:47] <kklimonda> bug 365056
[00:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 365056 in comix "comix crashed reading .cbz with interlaced PNG" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/365056
[00:47] <BUGabundo> kklimonda:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/380738
[00:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 380738 in suse "Accidental use of close by magnets may erase hard disks" [Undecided,Invalid]
[00:48] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: it looks like a poor joke..
[00:48] <BUGabundo> hggdh: eerrr that's a lot of changes eheh
[00:48] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: or just to show how LP is fradgile
[00:48] <kklimonda> really poor.. :/
[00:48] <kklimonda> it's not like we and developers don't have too much work with real bugs already :/
[00:49] <hggdh> BUGabundo, ah, OK, I will reset to private
[00:52] <kklimonda> hggdh: he has also set a lot of bugs as duplicates - at least it looks this way from his profile..
[00:52] <kklimonda> (he i.e. ethana2)
[00:53] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: the account is now suspened
[00:53] <kklimonda> I sure hope so :)
[00:53] <BUGabundo> but the wrong is done
[00:54] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: there isn't much we can really do about it - some kind of rollback button for undoing all changes made by user would be nice though..
[00:55] <BUGabundo> only LP admins now can fix it
[00:56] <kklimonda> lol, there are two ethana2 users :D
[00:56] <hggdh> kklimonda, the account has been blocked, but if the duplicates are wrong, let's correct them
[00:56] <hggdh> oh yes. ethana2 -- the one left in -- is a real user
[00:57] <kklimonda> hggdh: yeah, I think I was looking at the wrong one :D
[00:57] <hggdh> kklimonda, heh
[00:57] <kklimonda> come on, why does the impostor use "real" name ? :D
[00:58] <hggdh> why s/he could open a new account with a nick already in use is the question. I guess the LP folks got some nice time finding this out
[01:42] <kklimonda> hggdh: you still online? :)
[01:44] <kklimonda> hggdh: why did you mark bug 364433 as private? :)
[01:44] <ubot4> kklimonda: Bug 364433 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/364433 is private
[02:15] <hggdh> kklimonda, cuz hobbsee had it marked as private -- since I do not know why, I would rather leave it private until I can check with her
[02:17] <kklimonda> hggdh: bug 364433 isn't the one made by troll.
[02:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 364433 in empathy "IRC default settings for FreeNode have incorrect server hostname" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364433
[02:18] <hggdh> kklimonda, sorry. I marked it private? I am getting senile...
[02:18] <hggdh> kklimonda, it is public
[02:18] <kklimonda> hggdh: I think you were just caught up in cleaning up trolling :)
[02:18] <hggdh> (and was, already)
[02:19] <kklimonda> hggdh: I have marked it as public after I've checked that it was probably just a mistake :)
[02:19] <hggdh> kklimonda, I beg your pardon, I indeed did it
[02:19] <hggdh> :-)
[02:21] <kklimonda> hggdh: You probabaly have mistaken it for the one made by troll
[02:21] <hggdh> most probably...
[03:02] <Slick666> Hi all, I'm looking to get this bug of mine triaged
[03:02] <Slick666> http://www.igep-platform.com/public_docs/MAN-PR-IGEP.0020-001.01.pdf
[03:02] <Slick666> doh
[03:02] <Slick666> sry wrong link
[03:03] <Slick666> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/379055
[03:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 379055 in evolution "Evolution Exchange Proxy miss-match with system" [Undecided,New]
[03:03] <Slick666> I was wondering if there was anything else I needed to add to the bug
[03:03] <Slick666> could someone take a look please?
[03:07] <hggdh> Slick666, if I remember correctly, OWA still does not work through a proxy
[03:08] <Slick666> I had the system running just fine with 8.04 before the upgrade
[03:09] <Slick666> it seems like what has changed has introduced a bug
[03:09] <Slick666> IMHO
[03:09] <hggdh> Slick666, you might try to define the proxy via gnome
[03:09] <Slick666> I have
[03:09] <Slick666> I've detailed in the bug that the issue is that....
[03:10] <Slick666> while firefox can push http, https, and ftp through the system proxy
[03:10] <Slick666> Evolution seem to only get http traffic
[03:10] <hggdh> yeah. I dimly remember this being worked on on a previous version of Evo
[03:11] <Slick666> hmmmmm
[03:11] <hggdh> will have to check upstream.
[03:11] <Slick666> ok
[03:12] <hggdh> I have subscribed to the bug, and will check on it as soon as I can
[03:13] <Slick666> ty
[03:13] <hggdh> Slick666, welcome
[03:14] <Slick666> It's a shame because my main motivation was to get the ability to book resources again
[03:14] <Slick666> sigh, oh well we'll figure this out ;)
[03:14] <hggdh> heh
[03:21] <bcurtiswx> hggdh may i PM you?
[03:22] <hggdh> bcurtiswx, yes
[04:33] <showard> Hey if anyone is free, can you check something for me: are bug 223192, bug 376793, bug 44058, bug 33249 all duplicates of each other?
[04:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 223192 in gnome-power-manager "Doesn't detect lid closing on Dell Inspiron 5150" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223192
[04:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 376793 in gnome-power-manager "HP 2140 Lid Close Not Detected" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/376793
[04:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 44058 in gnome-power-manager "suspend when closing laptop lid doesn't work" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44058
[04:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 33249 in hw-detect "root partition once /dev/sdi1 then /dev/sda1" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33249
[04:34] <showard> sorry that last bug was bug 332249
[04:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 332249 in gnome-power-manager "Suspend (when Lid is closed) fails - HP530" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332249
[05:49] <kwall> Does setting a bug (say, bug 377983) to Invalid close it, or is there a separate state for closed bugs?
[05:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 377983 in firefox-3.0 "Lost Tab settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/377983
[05:50] <micahg> Setting a bug to invalid is one of the closed states
[05:50] <kwall> evening, micahg
[05:50] <micahg> evening kwall
[05:50] <micahg> have you read this yet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[05:51] <micahg> Closed states are: Invalid, Won't Fix, Fix Released
[05:52] <kwall> Well, this one falls into the firefox-profile-b0rken state, which would correspond most closely to Invalid.
[05:52] <micahg> Yep
[05:53] <micahg> You could tell her that she doesn't need to delete the old profile to make the new one the default
[05:55] <kwall> RIght. At this point, using the new one should make it the default, or so I seem to remember. I never use the profile manager except for these bugs. ;)
[05:56] <micahg> yep, just select the profile you want and select don't ask at startup
[06:12] <Hobbsee> hggdh, I set it to private in the hope that people would ignore it, people wouldn't post to it (creating more mail), and that google wouldn't get around to caching it.
[06:14] <hggdh> Hobbsee, then I erred in making it public, and (fortunately) corrected myself putting it private again. Thanks
[06:15] <hggdh> and, of course, cheers ;-)
[06:15] <Hobbsee> hggdh: for bugs that really should die and not be resurrected, that's what's historically been done.  I don't think there's a set policy on it, though
[06:15] <Hobbsee> you're welcome :)
[06:16] <Hobbsee> whether that be because they're troll bugs, or bugs that disobey the CoC (bugs attacking people, etc)
[06:16] <hggdh> Hobbsee, it does not sound like a bad policy, so I guess we should keep it this way
[06:16] <Hobbsee> google and other search engines picking up that crap clearly is bad, so ...
[06:16] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:17] <hggdh> yeah
[06:18] <Hobbsee> there's no way to completely 'nuke' bugs, unfortunately
[06:18] <micahg> which bug is everyone talking about?
[06:18] <Hobbsee> at least people can't resurrect admin-deactivated accoutns now
[06:18] <hggdh> well, THAT is a gain
[06:18] <Hobbsee> indeed
[06:19] <Hobbsee> i tried to break it, but didn't manage
[06:19] <hggdh> micahg, bug 380738
[06:19] <ubot4> hggdh: Bug 380738 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/380738 is private
[06:20] <hggdh> OTH, I am not sure we should nuke them, anyway: they are part of history
[06:21] <hggdh> and, on the other other hand, there is really no way to get to these bugs nowadays, so it is pretty much lost history...
[06:21]  * Hobbsee responds to that empathy bug, too
[06:26] <micahg> hggdh: would bug 378502 be medium or high?
[06:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 378502 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox: Ctrl-W doesn't close window or tab" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/378502
[06:27] <Hobbsee> wonfix; unreproducable, i'd guess
[06:27]  * Hobbsee waits for the bug to load
[06:27] <Hobbsee> oh, karmic
[06:27] <micahg> no, it's a real bug upstream
[06:27] <micahg> and was fixed
[06:27] <micahg> kde bug 190412
[06:28] <ubot4> KDE bug 190412 in general "ctrl+w shortcut not working" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190412
[06:28] <Hobbsee> hrm, that didn't get reassigned to kdebase
[06:28] <micahg> I was gonna take care of it
[06:28] <micahg> User triaged his own bug'
[06:29] <micahg> Was gonna mark medium -> triaged in kdebase
[06:29] <kwall> micahg: more like that, please ("user triages own bug")
[06:29] <Hobbsee> should probably be fix committed, actually, if there's a fix there
[06:29] <Hobbsee> although it looks like it got reverted
[06:30] <micahg> It says fixed in trunk under the last comment
[06:32] <micahg> Hobbsee: where do you see it reverted?
[06:33] <Hobbsee> oh, it appears i missed reading the last lin
[06:33] <Hobbsee> e
[06:33] <micahg> :)
[06:33] <micahg> High->Fix Committed?
[06:34] <Hobbsee> sounds good to me
[06:34] <hggdh> who does it? Hobbsee, will you, or should I?
[06:34] <Hobbsee> hggdh: feel free to
[06:34] <hggdh> roj
[06:34] <micahg> I did it
[06:35]  * micahg is in bug control now :)
[06:35] <hggdh> ah
[06:35] <hggdh> YES!
[06:35] <micahg> was approved Monday morning I think
[06:36] <hggdh> cool
[06:36] <hggdh> I do not remember seeing your application, though
[06:36] <micahg> nope, asac fast tracked me :)
[06:37] <micahg> I triaged > 200 Firefox bugs in one month
[06:37] <hggdh> heh. He had better, anyway
[06:38] <hggdh> well, welcome in
[06:38] <micahg> thank you :)
[06:38]  * micahg was overjoyed
[06:39] <hggdh> you deserved it
[06:39] <micahg> thank you
[06:39] <micahg> and double thank you for being my mentor
[06:39] <micahg> and teaching me the beginnings
[06:39] <kwall> micahg: 200+ bugs in 1 month? Studly.
[06:40] <hggdh> welcome, micahg. I did what should be done, anyway
[06:40] <micahg> that's why I was commenting earler about removing myself as a student
[06:40] <micahg> on the mentors page
[06:40] <micahg> but that I still have stuff to learn from you :)
[06:41] <hggdh> ah, OK. I had not understood it then (I did not know you were already in -control)
[06:42] <hggdh> and now... I got a beacon from the bed... good night, all y'all
[06:42] <micahg> night hggdh
[06:42] <hggdh> nacht, micahg
[14:40] <xteejx> Afternoon all
[14:52] <henry-nicolas> Hello everybody, I recently have been affected by this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/379079 that would be great if somebody could take a look at it. I guess that might impact a lot of user
[14:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 379079 in brasero "Can't burn a DVD in Brasero Disk Burner in Ubuntu 9.04" [Undecided,New]
[14:53] <xteejx> henry-nicolas, I'll have a quick look
[14:54] <henry-nicolas> xteejx: ok, thx
[14:54] <xteejx> hmmm i usually get that error when there is no disc in the drive
[14:55] <thekorn> henry-nicolas: looks like bug 270976 to me
[14:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 270976 in gst-plugins-bad-multiverse0.10 "[SRU] gst-plugins-bad0.10 needs rebuilding with mjpegtools to enable burning video with Brasero" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/270976
[14:55] <thekorn> henry-nicolas: can you please test the fix from the linked PPA
[14:56] <henry-nicolas> thekorn: that bug seems to only occur while we try to burn SVCD or Video DVD, no ? I get that error also with data DVD
[14:56] <henry-nicolas> thekorn : yes, I will do that right now
[14:58] <thekorn> henry-nicolas: hmm, maybe
[14:59] <thekorn> Ampelbein: hi, do you have an idea about the bug mentioned above
[14:59] <henry-nicolas> thekorn: even with the updated gstreamer plugin, I still got the same error
[14:59] <thekorn> only if you have a minute, of course ;)
[15:00] <thekorn> henry-nicolas: Ampelbein is the person to talk to, he triaged this bug and might know more about it
[15:02] <henry-nicolas> thekorn: you mean he triaged 270976 ?
[15:04] <thekorn> henry-nicolas: no the one I mentioned, he also asked other people to attach the output of
[15:04] <thekorn> brasero -g > log.txt 2>&1
[15:04] <thekorn> maybe this would be helpful in your case too
[15:05] <thekorn> henry-nicolas: oh, nm, it is the same as --debug
[15:05] <henry-nicolas> thekorn: yes ;)
[15:10] <bddebian> Boo
[15:10] <xteejx> ahhhhhhhhhh dont scare us!
[15:10] <hacktick> dholbach: are you in spain?
[15:11] <dholbach> yep
[15:11] <bddebian> :)
[15:11] <xteejx> alright for some.........
[15:11]  * bencrisford1 wishes he was in spain
[15:11]  * xteejx does too
[15:12] <xteejx> hows the weather over there dan/brian?
[15:13] <hacktick> dholbach: so no BugJam today, I suppose?
[15:13] <xteejx> is bddebian bdmurray?
[15:14] <bddebian> Nope :)
[15:14] <xteejx> oops lol
[15:14] <xteejx> bddebian, sorry thought you were brian murray hehe :)
[15:14] <dholbach> hacktick: not for me :/
[15:15] <hacktick> dholbach: I
[15:15] <hacktick> m gonna cancel it then...
[15:15] <bddebian> xteejx: Nah, I'm a nobody :)
[15:15] <xteejx> bddebian, you're always here....i think you're telling fibs :P
[15:16]  * xteejx thinks the sun in Spain has got to someone
[15:16] <bddebian> Well it's kind of a legacy thing.  I've been REALLY poor with direct Ubuntu work for a while now :(  Though I hope some of the Debian work I do trickles down.
[15:18] <xteejx> I would've thought so when it all gets synced :)
[15:20] <xteejx> dholbach, When does everything finish over there in Spain, is it Friday?
[15:20] <dholbach> xteejx: friday is last day, yes
[15:22] <xteejx> All finished for the day then?
[15:37] <xteejx> so many people entering and exiting........worse than a strip club.....
[16:18] <Ampelbein> thekorn: hi, sorry just got back online.
[16:22] <Ampelbein> thekorn, henry-nicolas do you get the error trying to burn a video dvd or data dvd?
[16:24] <henry-nicolas> ambelbein: data dvd
[16:25] <Ampelbein> henry-nicolas: then i don't think it's got to do with the bug mentioned (270976)
[16:26] <Ampelbein> henry-nicolas: that one is just about encoding video dvd/cd
[16:26] <henry-nicolas> ampelbein: I don't think too, I attached a debug.txt file
[16:26] <Ampelbein> henry-nicolas: can you translate: Â«Â mkisofsÂ Â» est un lien symbolique vers un autre programme. Utilisez plutÃ´t le programme cible? i dont speak french
[16:26] <Ampelbein> ;-)
[16:26] <henry-nicolas> sure
[16:27] <henry-nicolas> It tells : "Mkisofs is a symlink to another software, please use the target software instead"
[16:27] <Ampelbein> ah, thanks
[16:27] <henry-nicolas> so, It might be disturbed because mkisofs is a symlink to genisoimage I think
[16:28] <Ampelbein> yeah, that's the problem
[16:29] <henry-nicolas> Ampelbein: It is also telling the same thing with cdrdao versus wodim
[16:31] <Ampelbein> henry-nicolas: i have a look now, why this happens, i get back to you shortly
[16:31] <henry-nicolas> Ampelbein: ok thx, I'll stay in the channel
[16:31] <thekorn> Ampelbein: thanks for looking at this bugs :)
[16:32] <micahg> hggdh: The KDE people laughed at me setting that bug to high importance last night
[16:33] <henry-nicolas> thekorn: Yeah and fixing it would be really great, because I'm worring about that bug to impact a lot of users...
[16:43] <Ampelbein> henry-nicolas: so far, i can't replicate here. but since i'm currently still at work, i can't access my home machine. i'll be home in 4-5 hours and will reply in the bugreport.
[16:53] <henry-nicolas> Ampelbein: Ok, thx
[16:53] <hggdh> micahg, not surprised. The other day I opened one on KDE (failed to install), and it was summarily invalidated with a "yeah, yeah, expected" response
[16:53] <micahg> ok
[17:35] <bencrisford> bdmurray: You around?
[18:24] <hggdh> bencrisford, Brian is marked away (he is at UDS), so your chances of getting hold of him are sort of slim ;-)
[18:36] <bencrisford> hggdh: Ah, ok
[18:37] <askand> Hi, I need some help debugging firefox crash constantly
[18:38] <kklimonda> askand: disable extensions and see if you can reproduce it then
[18:38] <askand> kklimonda: I can, no extensions installed
[18:39] <kklimonda> askand: in terminal do sudo force_start=1 /etc/init.d/apport restart - make sure that you get "* Starting automatic crash report generation: apport  [ OK ]"
[18:40] <askand> I can not use that method due to bug 314212 (falsly marked as fixed)
[18:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 314212 in python-apt "Apport unable to report crash -  urlopen error timed out" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314212
[18:40] <kklimonda> askand: then launch firefox and make it crash again - apport should kick in and ask if you want to upload report to launchpad
[18:40] <kklimonda> oh, it's you ;D
[18:40] <askand> yes ^^
[18:40] <kklimonda> askand: i couldn't reproduce it..
[18:40] <kklimonda> I have uploaded 60MB apport crash yesterday :/
[18:40] <askand> kklimonda: "That's because the "fix" is dumb and broken.  It will eventually timeout for someone, somewhere, with a slow connection."
[18:40] <kklimonda> askand: you can do it manually..
[18:41] <askand> seems to depend on the connection speed
[18:41] <kklimonda> askand: crash reports are in /var/crash
[18:42] <askand> kklimonda: how do I upload them manually?
[18:43] <kklimonda> ech.. you have to use apport-unpack /var/crash/<crash file> /tmp/apport/
[18:46] <kklimonda> the question is how to upload coredump so it can be processed by apport-retrace
[18:46] <kklimonda> hggdh: can you check some private report and see how is coredump attached? is it compressed? or maybe there is a wiki page about reporting crashes by hand?
[18:52] <charlie-tca> coredump is attached as a .gz compressed file
[18:55] <charlie-tca> and the report marked private if a coredump is attached
[20:43] <xteejx> Can someone check over what I've done with bug 380643 please?
[20:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 380643 in brasero "files with % in name within folder fail to burn" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/380643
[20:43] <xteejx> Don't know how to check if its cdrecord etc, but it might not just be brasero thats the problem.
[20:45] <charlie-tca> Does linuxmint have it's own bugzilla?
[20:45] <charlie-tca> It may something they changed in the distro
[20:46] <hggdh> kklimonda, what bug #?
[20:46] <micahg> xteejx: check whatever format it was burned in to make sure the character is valid
[20:47] <kklimonda> hggdh: no need - i wanted to know how are coredump sent to LP
[20:47] <xteejx> micahg, I tried it myself as the default brasero burning options both in the root and within a folder, in rot folder the files were fine, in a folder, they weren't
[20:48] <micahg> Yes, but there are different burning formats, joliet and what not
[20:48] <micahg> make sure the character is valid in the format
[20:48] <xteejx> ohh ermmm in that case i don't know...it was the default with the windows compatibility box checked - maybe i should put that
[20:49] <charlie-tca> looks right to me
[20:50] <xteejx> Just updated it, just in case it gets missed
[21:17] <taxman> Hi, in general if I have a bug in an upstream project that is not reported either on launchpad or upstream, should I also report it upstream? I already reported it in lauchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/381429
[21:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 381429 in gnome-terminal "gnome-terminal doesn't handle Unicode complex text rendering" [Undecided,New]
[21:33] <kakemann> Hi, I have triaged my first bug, well, I have tried to, can anyone take a look at bug 381105 to see if I have done it correct?
[21:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 381105 in evolution "Handling of ftp links containing username and password" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381105
[21:40] <charlie-tca> kakemann: now you should click on "also affects project" and put the url to the evolution upstream bug in
[21:40] <kakemann> thanks, will do
[21:40] <charlie-tca> That will tie it to the ubuntu bug, and it should update automatically.
[21:40] <charlie-tca> Then you request a bug-control member mark it triaged and let us know what importance you think it should have.
[21:41] <charlie-tca> We use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance to determine importance
[21:43] <kakemann> I would think this is a low priority bug
[21:45] <charlie-tca> why?
[21:46] <kakemann> it only affects ftp links, and only links with username and password where the username contains a special character
[21:48] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance, "Ones that can be easily worked around" under 'Low' appears to agree with you.
[21:48] <charlie-tca> Thanks for helping. I marked it triaged for you
[21:49] <kakemann> thanks for your help
[21:49] <charlie-tca> It might be frustrating, but it is real easy to work around it
[21:49] <charlie-tca> And thanks a lot for forwarding it upstream. That really helps
[21:51] <kakemann> okay, I'll go looking for other "easy" bugs to work at :)
[21:51] <charlie-tca> great!
[21:57] <taxman> charlie-tca: should bugs usually be filed upstream too?
[21:58] <charlie-tca> Many of them should. If upstream maintains the source and Ubuntu does not modify it, the bug should go upstream, too.
[21:58] <taxman> ok, so the one I referenced in gnome-terminal, Ubuntu doesn't modify that, right?
[21:59] <charlie-tca> what number?
[22:02] <taxman> oh sorry, the link is above, but it's 381429
[22:04] <charlie-tca> Okay. I think it should be forwarded to Gnome-Bugzilla, but I don't know if it is a translation bug instead of a terminal bug?
[22:04] <charlie-tca> To be safe, you could upstream it, and they will mark it invalid if needed.
[22:05] <charlie-tca> I also tagged it regression-potential, since if it did work before, it is a regression and will get high priority
[22:06] <taxman> it's definitely not a translation bug since it's a bug in how it handles text pasted into the terminal. It's just not rendered correctly
[22:06] <taxman> but thanks very much for looking at it
[22:07] <taxman> I guess I'll file upstream, then connect it and see how it goes
[22:07] <charlie-tca> Okay, then it should go upstream. Thanks for helping with it
[22:07] <taxman> ahh good idea on regression-potential too
[22:12] <taxman> man I wish I wasn't such a dope with bugs so I could help more
[22:12] <charlie-tca> Took me 3 years to learn
[22:12] <charlie-tca> I'm a little slow sometimes
[22:13] <micahg1> taxman: don't be afraid to ask questions
[22:13] <micahg1> that's how we all learn
[22:14] <taxman> I'll try more. I think I filed this one correctly since it wasn't hard to tell what app/package to file it against
[22:25] <xteejx> How do you see who the developers are for a specific package, the one I want to know is mdadm, there are quite a few bugs that have regressed into Jaunty, and probably Karmic with RAID/md devices, and there doesn't seem to be anyone bothering with it
[22:25] <bencrisford> It will be in the source
[22:26] <bencrisford> in the changelog, you can see who's done what
[22:26] <bencrisford> and various other files say who the maintainer is etc
[22:26] <bencrisford> i cant remember all the details
[22:26] <bencrisford> let me consult my pocket packaging guide xteejx :D
[22:26] <xteejx> I know, I was kinda hoping maybe they would be here somewhere lol
[22:26] <xteejx> cheers ben
[22:27] <xteejx> it's just gonna be quite a problem for the server installs...
[22:27] <xteejx> everyone seems focussed on desktop
[22:27] <bencrisford> hmm, to get the source its:
[22:28] <bencrisford> sudo apt-get source mdadm
[22:28] <bencrisford> thats the package right?
[22:28] <xteejx> it is, but i already know that ben ;)
[22:28] <xteejx> I was trying to find their LP
[22:28] <bencrisford> i thought you would :P, im just running through it for my benefit
[22:28] <xteejx> maybe just give them a nudge or something
[22:29] <bencrisford> git://git.debian.org/git/pkg-mdadm/mdadm
[22:29] <xteejx> !search mdadm
[22:29] <ubot4> None found
[22:29] <xteejx> !info mdadm
[22:29] <ubot4> xteejx: mdadm (source: mdadm): tool to administer Linux MD arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.7.1-1ubuntu8 (jaunty), package size 231 kB, installed size 660 kB
[22:31] <xteejx> ubotu is very helpful
[22:32] <bencrisford> xteejx: This might be useful if you havent already found it: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm
[22:32] <xteejx> just been on there hehe
[22:33] <bencrisford> oh
[22:33] <bencrisford> ill check out the motu channel and look for the scott bloke
[22:35] <xteejx> if you find him give him a little kick hehe
[22:36] <xteejx> omg chicken biryani 1 pound!
[22:36] <bencrisford> xteejx: I found that kirkland fella
[22:37] <bencrisford> the scott dude doesnt seem to be around
[22:37] <bencrisford> his nick is Keybuk though
[22:38] <xteejx> ahh ok
[22:39] <xteejx> well i'll leave a message on the bug report, confirm it and medium it
[22:39] <xteejx> actually triaged, theres enough info
[22:40] <bencrisford> lol stop making me jealous with the triaged thingy :P
[22:40] <bencrisford> im not in bc yet :P
[22:41] <xteejx> You should be soon i **think**
[22:42] <xteejx> you only get 3 months at a time you realise?
[22:42] <bencrisford> meh
[22:42] <bencrisford> i applied 3 weeks ago, i hope that doesnt count on my 3 months :S
[22:42] <xteejx> nahh it doesnt
[22:42] <bencrisford> in fact i applied probably several months ago
[22:42] <bencrisford> sent my application 3 weeks ago
[22:43] <bencrisford> bdmurray: Don't suppose you're around? :)
[22:43] <xteejx> doubtful, he's probably in bed
[22:43] <bencrisford> at this hour!
[22:43] <bencrisford> :P
[22:43] <xteejx> 11:43PM
[22:43] <bencrisford> i would if i was at the UDS
[22:44] <bencrisford> but that wont happen until 15.10 or so probably :P
[22:44] <bencrisford> (yep, i worked it out :P)
[22:44] <xteejx> there is schedule somewhere on the wiki
[22:44] <bencrisford> for the karmic one?
[22:44] <bencrisford> or for all of em
[22:44] <bencrisford> whats on the schedule?
[22:45] <xteejx> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-karmic/
[22:45] <bencrisford> oh, yeah ive read that
[22:46] <bencrisford> ive been downloading live streams
[22:46] <bencrisford> listening in on the sessions
[22:46] <bencrisford> and taking part via gobby, and IRC
[22:46] <bencrisford> so im there in spirit :P
[22:46] <xteejx> where are the videos?
[22:46] <bencrisford> not sure :S
[22:47] <bencrisford> the videotaped sessions will be released after
[22:47] <bencrisford> when they've been edited
[22:47] <bencrisford> etc
[22:47] <bencrisford> the unofficial ones taken by attendees are somewhere
[22:47] <kklimonda> bug 381371 - any ideas what's going on? looks like python-central is trying to compile modules and somehow fails (permission denied..)
[22:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 381371 in python-numeric "package python-numeric 24.2-9ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381371
[22:47] <xteejx> i dont even know where the jaunty ones were put...... lol
[22:49] <bencrisford> kklimonada: Hmf, if its all in that terminal log
[22:49] <bencrisford> its gonna take a lifetime to read...
[22:49] <bencrisford> and i dunno why its uploaded in an archive :/
[22:49] <kklimonda> bencrisford: scroll to the bottom
[22:50] <kklimonda> bencrisford: apport does it this way - if log is (relatively) big it is compressed
[22:50] <bencrisford> ok
[22:50] <bencrisford> well, first thing i think we should put the actual error from the log in the description
[22:51] <xteejx> someones getting good..... ;)
[22:51] <kklimonda> yeah
[22:51] <bencrisford> ?
[22:51] <xteejx> also get the few lines before it, an error log except is no good without knowing what context its it
[22:51] <xteejx> *in
[22:52] <kklimonda> bencrisford: I'm working on that - but I wanted opinion about it - for example does it look like a python-central book
[22:52] <bencrisford> Why not have a chat to the python peps
[22:52] <bencrisford> i dont know what their channel is
[22:54] <bencrisford> kklimonada: I updated the description a little at the top, making it clear hes using amd64
[22:54] <xteejx> #python is for python lol
[22:54] <bencrisford> no sh*t! :P
[22:55] <xteejx> !conduct
[22:55] <ubot4> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[22:55] <xteejx> haha
[22:55] <bencrisford> kklimonada: Crap, sorry!  I was updating after you and because im using edge I guess it deleted what you added
[22:55] <bencrisford> im really sorry
[22:56] <xteejx> omfg anyone watching FIVER in the UK? haha
[22:56] <bencrisford> nope
[22:56] <bencrisford> whats on?
[22:56] <xteejx> best not ben....
[22:56] <bencrisford> I thought you would be watching question time?
[22:56] <bencrisford> had you down as that sorta bloke :P
[22:57] <xteejx> nahhhh not me
[22:57] <bencrisford> :P
[22:57] <bencrisford> im kidding, but it was pretty good last week
[22:57]  * bencrisford has a politics forum
[22:57] <bencrisford> www.havingsomefun.net
[22:59] <xteejx> oh yes....politics..............
[22:59]  * xteejx yawns
[22:59] <bencrisford> :P
[22:59] <xteejx> !cohoba
[22:59] <ubot4> Factoid 'cohoba' not found
[23:00] <xteejx> !search cohoba
[23:00] <ubot4> None found
[23:00] <xteejx> thank god
[23:00] <bencrisford> kklimonada: I'm seriously sorry :(, please re-update it :/
[23:00] <bencrisford> !whats on FIVER?
[23:00] <ubot4> I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[23:00] <bencrisford> :(
[23:01] <xteejx> you really don't want to know, and i'm going off subject now, best quieten down hehe
[23:03]  * xteejx is not available for PM
[23:03] <xteejx> dont worry honestly
[23:03] <xteejx> anyway im off guys cya all tomorrow
[23:08] <kklimonda_> damn, my internet connection is doing some weird things..
[23:10] <bencrisford> did you get my messaged
[23:10] <bencrisford> launchpad deleted your update to the description
[23:10] <bencrisford> because i updated at same time :(
[23:10] <bencrisford> sorry!