[07:35] <Myrtti> oh btw - just a reminder - dapper is closing in on EOL
[07:35] <Myrtti> now that I remember it again
[07:37] <Madpilot> June 2009
[07:37] <Myrtti> yep
[07:38] <Myrtti> so now would be the time to prod people mentioning dapper to upgrade
[07:51] <Flannel> only desktop
[07:51] <Myrtti> and I know there's people that still use it
[07:52] <Flannel> I did until January!
[09:38] <gnomefreak> how do i find the full output of !find bleh
[09:38] <Madpilot> 'more' or !more? not actually sure.
[09:39] <gnomefreak> !find infinity more
[09:39] <gnomefreak> !find more infinity 
[09:39] <Myrtti> !find infinity
[09:39] <Myrtti> !more
[09:39] <Myrtti> ok
[09:46] <Mamarok> morning
[10:17] <Mamarok> what's that package again that enables ctrl+alt+backspace again in Jaunty
[10:17] <Mamarok> ?
[10:17] <Mamarok> !find xserver
[10:18] <Mamarok> hm...
[10:18] <Mamarok> !find xkill
[10:20] <topyli> Mamarok: dontzap
[10:20] <Mamarok> topyli: thx :)
[10:20] <topyli> or you could just use altgr-sysrq-k like you're supposed to :)
[10:21] <Mamarok> topyli: well, yes, that too :)
[10:22] <Madpilot> whattheheck is altgr?
[10:29] <jussi01> Madpilot: its the right alt key...
[10:30] <Mamarok> AltGr
[10:30] <Madpilot> cool, wasn't aware some functions distinguished btwn alt keys.
[10:31] <Mamarok> Madpilot: ? it always did, it replaces the 'compose' key on old unix keyboards
[10:32] <Madpilot> my background as a Windows refugee instead of a *nix beard betrays me :)
[10:33] <Mamarok> ah, so I guess you use the windows key ...
[10:33]  * Mamarok doesn't need that one at all
[10:33] <Mamarok> althoug, I should put a penguin on it, then I might use it :)
[10:34] <Madpilot> someone sells Tux decals for keyboards - I think there's Tux keyboards as well, for that matter
[10:37] <Mamarok> yeah, I think I even must have some sticker lying around here small enough for my key
[11:17]  * topyli uses the super key all the time
[13:18] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[13:18] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[13:39]  * elky waits.
[13:42]  * Pici sighs
[16:32]  * jussi01 is tired
[16:32] <Pici> me too
[16:34]  * Myrtti drinks a pot of coffee
[16:34] <Pici> FYI, I will probably be stressed out next week, so if I seem a bit on edge, just let me know.
[16:35] <Myrtti> Pici: cuddles coming your way then
[16:36] <Pici> We're going live with a new financial/registration system.  I'll be working a 16 hour shift the first night and then 4am to 4pm thereafter until wednesday.
[16:47] <LjL> there are a few bots connected from 87.113.157.99, and two of them are in #edubuntu. i'm not sure whether they're allowed there - one of them was in another channel where it was definitely not allowed by the ops
[16:48] <Myrtti> oh boy
[16:48]  * Myrtti sees what channel one of them is
[16:48] <Pici> LjL: Are the bots doing anything?
[16:48] <LjL> Pici: they gave an announcement in the another channel.
[16:48] <LjL> in #edubuntu they might have given the same announcement, but i don't know as i wasn't there
[16:49] <Myrtti> oh - it's not even a bot
[16:49] <Pici> LjL: Announcing what?
[16:49] <LjL> [17:36:18] <BenBot> Announcement from my owner (bencrisford): Hey! This is BenBot, he does all sorts of tricks. He can play russian roulette, log channels, read RSS feeds, shrinkURLs, do maths and much much more! If you want to use him on your IRC channel, join #spux and speak to bencrisford. :)
[16:49] <Pici> ...
[16:50] <Pici> LjL: thanks.
[16:50] <LjL> welcome
[16:51] <Pici> Myrtti: Did you message any of them, if not I think we need to invite their owner in here.
[16:51] <Myrtti> no, didn't
[16:51] <Myrtti> bencrisford2 seems to be online and coming from that IP
[16:52] <Pici> bencrisford is also on
[16:53] <Myrtti> hmmm
[16:53] <Myrtti> bencrisford2: hi
[16:53] <bencrisford2> Hi
[16:53] <Myrtti> could you explain what are your bots doing in #edubuntu?
[16:54] <bencrisford2> Well, they aren't there officially, but LaserJock is cool with it.  We were gonna log meeting with them, but LaserJock said we'll probably use #ubuntu-meeting if we can from now on, but they might be useful
[16:55] <bencrisford2> If they're not allowed to be there ill remove them immediately, but I thought it would be ok..?
[16:56] <bencrisford2> Myrtti: ?
[16:56] <Myrtti> Pici: thoughts?
[16:57] <ikonia> I'm curious to why it takes 2 bots to log something ?
[16:57] <bencrisford2> it doesnt
[16:57] <bencrisford2> they arent there to log anymore
[16:57] <ikonia> so what's the pupose now ?
[16:57] <bencrisford2> we were just exploring how we could use bots, we havent got a clear purpose at the present tim
[16:57] <bencrisford2> time*
[16:58] <bencrisford2> but we think they could be useful
[16:58] <Pici> bencrisford2: Could you remove the bots for now until we talk to LaserJock? 
[16:58] <bencrisford2> of course
[16:58] <bencrisford2> all done
[16:58] <Pici> Is it just you and LaserJock who were discussing using them? Or does 'we' refer to someone else too? 
[16:59] <bencrisford2> when i say 'we' i just mean the edubuntu folks
[16:59] <Pici> Okay ;
[16:59] <Pici> er, ;)
[16:59] <bencrisford2> LaserJock hasnt officially said "sure lets have bots"
[16:59] <bencrisford2> but i was interested in using some
[16:59] <bencrisford2> and he said a channelogeer wouldnt be useful
[16:59] <bencrisford2> but we might find a use for some bots
[17:00] <bencrisford2> for example, I have already found the "seen" tool particurlaly useful
[17:00] <Myrtti> that's what nickserv info is good for
[17:00] <Pici> /msg nickserv info <nick>  can also tell you the last time a person was on, if they have a registered name.
[17:01] <jussi01> We have offcial logbots and info bots already
[17:01] <bencrisford2> I know, I just thought maybe some other bots can help
[17:01] <bencrisford2> as far as I know, I havent broken any rules..  have I?
[17:02] <Pici> Actually bots are addressed in our guidelines.
[17:02] <Pici> !guidelines
[17:03] <bencrisford2> :S Im really, really sorry
[17:03] <bencrisford2> like I say I didn't think I had done anything wrong, I was just trying to help out :/
[17:04] <Myrtti> no harm done :-)
[17:04] <Myrtti> atleast now that they're not there anymore
[17:04] <bencrisford2> ok
[17:04] <bencrisford2> sorry
[17:04] <jussi01> bencrisford2: keep working with tsimpson ;)
[17:08] <jussi01> !releasenotes | Mamarok, intel fixes are in here:
[17:08] <Pici> !intel | too
[17:08] <Mamarok> Pici: thx :) but I guess that users needs more than that...
[17:09] <Mamarok> seems even that it is Kwin related, according to the bug report it works in Gnome...
[17:27] <Pici> I sent a memoserv message to laserjock asking him to join here and discuss having extra bots in #edubuntu
[17:35] <Mamarok> I guess me and support have a love-hate relationship :)
[18:06] <jussi01> Pici: lasejock is around, you may just want to pm him, he may have missed the memoserv message...
[18:08] <jussi01> heh... actually I take that back...
[19:17] <Myrtti> tis not
[19:29] <Pici> argh
[19:29] <Pici> Why are people telling others the bot trigger instead of triggering it themselves?
[19:38] <Flannel> because they're silly.
[19:40] <vorian> it's less calories, ubottu lite
[20:46] <Pici> !-iso
[20:46] <Pici> !-isomount
[20:46] <Pici> !-mountiso
[20:46] <Pici> hmm
[22:34]  * jussi01 prods ikonia
[22:51] <Myrtti> @bansearch madbuntu 
[22:52] <Myrtti> oh well, wrong hunch
[23:32] <mneptok> vorian: actually, it's "fewer calories"