[00:00] <JontheEchidna> then logout
[00:00] <lex79> ok thanks
[00:06] <Riddell> revu requested http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/qjson
[00:06] <Riddell> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kopete-facebook
[00:10] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: the other kopete plugin we have is named kopete-plugin-thinklight
[00:10] <JontheEchidna> or maybe this is different because it's a protocol plugin and not a feature extension?
[00:11] <Riddell> I did ponder that and I think it's a new protocl not a feature
[00:11] <Riddell> although we also have kopete-cryptography
[00:11] <JontheEchidna> true
[00:12] <JontheEchidna> allow -> allows in the package description
[00:12] <JontheEchidna> Maybe something more like "This plugin allows you to chat with your Facebook contacts using Kopete"
[00:13] <JontheEchidna> kopete-facebook also lacks a copy of the GPL
[00:15] <JontheEchidna> otherwise it lookds pretty solid :)
[00:16] <JontheEchidna> In qjson qt-based -> Qt-based in the two package descriptions
[00:17] <JontheEchidna> And qjson looks good too
[00:18] <jjesse> evening
[01:13] <nixternal> hey, in order for a watch file to work, uscan/uupdate needs to be able to read the directory that the tarball is in correct?
[01:14] <vorian> if you use uupdate, yes
[01:59]  * nixternal kicks vorian in the shin
[01:59] <vorian> nixternal: whay?
[02:00] <vorian> http://yerkewlapp.\wrt^(*.snazzy)\regex.tgz debian uupdate
[02:04] <_Groo_> hi/2 all...
[02:06] <vorian> nixternal: see! persia says the same thing (see -motu)
[02:17] <nixternal> adding misc:Depends to skulpture package
[02:18] <nixternal> wtf, can't login to my damn sid pbuilder
[02:25] <jjesse> evening
[04:41] <vorian> Your quiz has brought a Flaming Orangobeaver into existence! It is part-beaver part-orangutan, and part ectoplasmic fire. Does it get any better? Ninjas couldn't catch it, that's for sure..
[04:41] <vorian> best evar1!!
[04:46] <Pollywog> it appears as though kdevelop-kde4 is not yet usable, with templates missing
[04:46] <Pollywog> is this correct?
[08:25] <seaLne> Nightrose: on a machine at home with 4.3a1 comparing files even works
[08:29] <_StefanS_> morning
[08:30] <Riddell> git has defeated me
[08:30] <Riddell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/183453/  what the heck does that mean?
[08:38] <nixternal> Riddell: has it worked before?
[08:38] <nixternal> you are just ghosting/external linking from github to kde svn?
[08:39] <Riddell> nixternal: couldnae say, I've used it for planetkde in the past yonks ago, but I just set up this account
[08:39] <Riddell> I'm not touching svn, it's this git repository only
[08:39] <nixternal> what is the reference to planetkde/config?
[08:40] <Riddell> no idea, I did something with planetkde on github ages ago but not for months
[08:40] <nixternal> hrmm
[08:40] <Riddell> mm
[08:42] <Nightrose> seaLne: thx :)
[08:48] <nixternal> Riddell: if nobody is working on a Kubuntu frontend for usb-creator, I would be interested in working on it...I have already looked it over and seriously could push out an alpha release in a day
[08:49] <nixternal> I have read where like 2 people were working on it, one I can't find his repo if he is working on it, and the other I did find, but there hasn't been any work on it
[08:52] <nixternal> what room is Kubuntu Karmic Ubuntu One in?
[08:53] <freeflying> nixternal: room 7
[08:53] <nixternal> don't hear anybody in there
[08:53] <freeflying> room 5
[08:54] <nixternal> it isn't room 5
[08:55] <freeflying> shoud be room 7
[08:57] <Riddell> we're in 7
[08:57] <Riddell> nixternal: tonio was looking at usb-creator
[08:57] <Riddell> ask him where he got to
[08:57] <nixternal> so that makes it 3 other people then looking at it
[08:58] <nixternal> room 7 has 0 audio
[09:00] <Nightrose> nothing for room 7 here either :(
[09:01] <nixternal> on that note, to bed I go...g'nite
[09:01] <Nightrose> nini nixternal
[09:13] <Mamarok> Riddell: morning :)
[09:14] <Mamarok> Riddell: I'm suppose to remind you to poke ShipIt for the Swiss Team Pack
[09:14] <freeflying> Mamarok: what is Team Pack?
[09:14] <Riddell> Mamarok: oh aye, which Swiss team is this?
[09:14] <Mamarok> freeflying: the packs for the LoCo Teams
[09:14] <Riddell> swiss ubuntu loco team?
[09:15] <Mamarok> Riddell: the Swiss LoCo Team, most official
[09:15] <Mamarok> :)
[09:15] <Mamarok> ask stgraber, he has a copy of the mails I sent to ShipIt
[09:15] <Mamarok> couldn't reac him though
[09:15] <Mamarok> reach* even
[11:12] <davidbarth> ScottK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotificationDesignGuidelines
[11:24] <shtylman> ooo just installed the konversation kde4 backport :)
[11:24] <shtylman> +1 over quassel
[11:25] <Tonio_> shtylman: alpha 1 or 2 ?
[11:25] <shtylman> Tonio_: 2
[11:25] <Tonio_> kk
[11:25] <Tonio_> shtylman: running karmic ?
[11:26] <shtylman> Tonio_: jaunty ... no karmic yet :)
[11:26] <Tonio_> shtylman:
[11:26] <Tonio_> oops, where is the latest konversation ? ppa somewhere ?
[11:26] <shtylman> I just enabled the jaunty backports... in apt sources
[11:27] <Tonio_> kk
[11:28] <freeflying> quassel is too complicated to use
[11:39] <ScottK> shtylman: Ping
[11:46]  * emonkey loves quassel, no idea why to change back
[11:48]  * Riddell does something
[11:51] <Mamarok> freeflying: it's gone better in 4.3
[11:54] <ryanakca> Can someone please review http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicWebsite
[12:10] <ryanakca> ScottK: Ping
[12:11] <ryanakca> ScottK: Pong
[14:08] <DreadKnight> bubblemon keeps appearing on my panel each time i log in..
[14:14] <ryanakca> Riddell: Mind if I get rid of the orange triangles next to the links in the top nav on http://www.kubuntu.org/ ? (vs without, http://drupal.ryanak.ca/ )
[14:16] <nixternal> gnomevfs and DBusGMain
[14:17] <ryanakca> nixternal: was that for this session?
[14:17] <nixternal> usb-creator
[14:17] <Riddell> good with me ryanakca
[14:17] <nixternal> with gobject, you have to do a bit more with either QObject
[14:17] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: coudl you look at bug 381522?
[14:18] <nixternal> but with DBusGMain it is easily replaced with DBusQtMain
[14:18] <nixternal> ya, those are frontend, backend just has gobject
[14:27] <Riddell> all done
[15:50] <ryanakca> Quintasan: Where did you put the 100 papercut bugs for Kubuntu?
[16:03] <yuriy> no papercuts for us :-\ at least not for karmic
[16:19] <yuriy> seele: were you listening to the 100 papercuts session?
[17:06] <seele> 100 papercuts?
[17:13] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: PING
[17:13] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: meant ping
[17:14] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: pong
[17:15] <ryanakca> seele: *nod*, where they were talking about a team that lists 100 minor usability issues or easy to fix bugs and gets people to fix them. But then they turned around and said they'd only do it with Ubuntu for this release, but if we really wanted to participate, we could provide our own people, etc.
[17:17] <Artemis_Fowl> I am finished with automagic support. would you mind taking a look at it if you have time?
[17:20] <Artemis_Fowl> I think it only needs some polishing and that's it. ready
[17:29] <seele> ryanakca: i remember someone talking about that.. but it is pretty difficult to define a minor usability issue. What might seem minor to me could be hours of coding for a developer
[17:30] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: sure.. do you have screenshots or a ppa i can check out?
[17:30] <ryanakca> seele: *nod*
[17:33] <Artemis_Fowl> hmm... neither :( I would prefer that you tried from a package though
[17:33] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: let me see what I can do
[17:35] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: ok, just ping me or send me a link when it's ready
[17:38] <ryanakca> Do we have an equivalent to Debian experimental? "Packages and tools which are still being developed, and are still in the alpha testing stage. Users shouldn't be using packages from here, because they can be dangerous and harmful even for the most experienced people."
[17:38] <JontheEchidna> there's the kubuntu-experimental ppa where we throw alpha stuff
[17:39] <ryanakca> JontheEchidna: might be interesting to get kobby in there.
[17:39] <JontheEchidna> it already is ;-)
[17:39] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger did it yesterday
[17:40] <JontheEchidna> https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental?field.name_filter=kobby&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=any
[17:40] <Mamarok> he even wrote a mail to the ML about that, didn't he?
[17:40] <JontheEchidna> I believe he did
[17:42] <ryanakca> Gah
[17:42] <ryanakca> Lovely :)
[17:45] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: here is a .deb package I created. it' really crap but it will do the job: http://www.sigmirror.com/files/20393_9nyc8/kgrubeditor_20090529-1_i386.deb
[17:46] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: I hope it will work, I didn't add dependencies but it depends on policykit
[17:46] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: which should be preinstalled in your system hopefully
[17:48] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: i can tell you in a second
[17:48] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: could you take a look at bug 380947 please?
[17:48] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: ok, nice
[17:49] <seele> dpkg: kgrubeditor: warning - conffile `/etc/dbus-1' is not a plain file or symlink (= `/etc/dbus-1')
[17:49] <seele> dpkg: kgrubeditor: warning - conffile `/etc/dbus-1/system.d' is not a plain file or symlink (= `/etc/dbus-1/system.d')
[17:49] <seele> what/where is the executable? kgrubeditor isnt working
[17:50] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: it installed but with errors
[17:50] <Artemis_Fowl> it doesn't have an executable anymore. try "kcmshell4 kgrubeditor" and tell me
[17:50] <Artemis_Fowl> it's a system settings module now
[17:57] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: "Cannot opened shared resouce..."
[17:57] <seele> looks like a problem with the control module
[17:57] <seele> let me try sudo
[17:57] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: no
[17:57] <seele> ah, no, heh
[17:57] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: there is no need
[17:57] <seele> thought maybe it was permissions
[17:58] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: can you openup a konsole, try "kcmshell4 kgrubeditor" and dump me the result?
[17:59] <ryanakca> Did anybody find the source for conflict-checker?
[18:02] <ryanakca> Nevermind, lp:conflictchecker
[18:04] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: there is no feedback it just opens a dialog with no debugging or anything
[18:05] <Artemis_Fowl> and shows what?
[18:10] <Riddell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/2009-05-29-kubuntu-groupphoto-uds-barcelona.jpg  beautiful people
[18:11] <nixternal> is that kwwii back there with a goat on his chin?
[18:12] <nixternal> must be, I see ScottK next to him, and you know old people always hangs out together
[18:12] <nixternal> it is 7PM there and it is already dark? or did you take that after midnight last night and finally upload it?
[18:13] <nixternal> I think tonio stole my shirt from the last UDS
[18:15] <Riddell> that was a few days ago
[18:15] <neversfelde> how do I remove the -Source in this watchfile with uversionmangle? http://pastebin.ca/1439812
[18:15] <Riddell> kwwii is wearing the Motorhead t-shirt
[18:15] <Tm_T> isn't it Motörhead these days?
[18:16] <Tm_T> (crazy 80's with "ö"s)
[18:16] <nixternal> http://sf.net/k9copy/k9copy-[(\d\.)-*]\.tar\.gz <- neversfelde won't that work?
[18:17]  * nixternal thinks we need to get kwwii to make us a new logo to better represent Kubuntu + KDE 4 + Oxygen
[18:17] <nixternal> Or Nuno
[18:18] <neversfelde> nixternal: no, no matching hrefs for watch line
[18:19] <Mamarok> nixternal: ask Nuno, he will ceratinaly be happy to :)
[18:19] <nixternal> Kubuntu logo with an Oxygen and Airy feel to it
[18:20] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: there is no feedback in konsole, just a dialog that pops up with the "Cannot open shared resource" error
[18:21] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: ah ok, it's not installed
[18:22] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: uhm.. hmm.. dpkg didnt tell me it wasn't.. it got as far as Setting up kgrubeditor (20090529-1) ... and then it threw those errors i pasted earlier
[18:23] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: I modified the package a bit. try this one: http://www.sigmirror.com/files/20394_8kdst/kgrubeditor_20090529-1_i386.deb
[18:23] <Artemis_Fowl> if this doesn't work, then someone else should create the package
[18:23] <Riddell> nixternal: kwwii says he'll have more time for Kubuntu bits this cycle
[18:23] <Artemis_Fowl> or I'll give you screenshots
[18:23] <Riddell> nixternal: if you want to start a wiki page with art to do that would be great
[18:24] <nixternal> Riddell: I can do that, anything else art related you can think of?
[18:24] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: the last package should install any necessary packages hopefully
[18:24] <nixternal> guess the general stuff for Kubuntu customization: KDM, KSplash, Wallpaper, Logo
[18:25]  * nixternal notes that he wants to update Kubuntu TODO for everything and make it easy to navigate and attract new contributors possibly
[18:25] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: same errors as before
[18:26] <nixternal> read that Fedora's new contribs were inspired by their TODO list and how easy it was
[18:26] <Riddell> nixternal: network manager, KDM, he was metioning customising the plasma theme
[18:27] <Riddell> nixternal: KubuntuKarmicSpecs links to all the specs, feel free to update the ToDo from them
[18:27] <nixternal> roger that
[18:29] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: while installing the package or while trying to launch kgrubeditor?
[18:32] <Quintasan> ARGH
[18:34] <Quintasan> It's my graphics card or framebuffer doesn't support resolutions higher than 1024x768? and first of all why there is no bootsplash for 1920x1080?
[18:36] <ryanakca> Quintasan: I think it's yours, my desktop at home got 1024x1028, or I think it did anyways
[18:37] <ryanakca> Does it just fail or can you tell by the size of the font?
[18:38] <Quintasan> I can tell by the size of font
[18:38] <Quintasan> it's so big that I can't see my whole prompt
[18:38] <ryanakca> Ah
[18:39] <Quintasan> I can't boot it now and I don't know why it fails because: a) no bootsplash b) fonts are too big
[18:40] <Quintasan> X works with 1920x1080 but framebuffer doesn't, dunno why
[18:42] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: both
[18:42] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: same dpkg error and same dialog error
[18:42] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: -.-
[18:43] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: could somebody else create a package or should I make screenshots?
[18:43] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: for now maybe screenshots, but maybe someone will make us a package
[18:43]  * seele pokes nixternal and ScottK 
[18:44] <neversfelde> Riddell: 15 guys on the picture and 14 names under it. I think you have missed one?
[18:48] <ryanakca> Riddell: s/Kavanah/Kavanagh/
[18:49] <ryanakca> Riddell: Tonio is the missing one
[18:50] <nixternal> hrmm, my fan is making the UDS whine!
[18:50] <nixternal> seems nepomukservices just decided to take off on its own
[18:53] <Quintasan> who manages the bootsplash artwork?
[18:54] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: I have to go. If anybody is willing to create a test package, here is the source code: http://www.sigmirror.com/files/20395_bqbu2/KGRUBEditor-0.9.0-Source.tar.bz2
[18:54] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: otherwise I will simply create some screenshots
[18:55] <neversfelde> another -Source :)
[18:55] <Artemis_Fowl> it's CPack generated
[18:56] <Artemis_Fowl> should it be there?
[18:56] <Artemis_Fowl> shouldn't*
[18:58] <neversfelde> I am currently trying to remove it from k9copy in the watch file otherwise uupdate creates the version 2.3.2-Source-0ubuntu1. I think this is not correct?
[18:58] <Quintasan> Artemis_Fowl, If noone will make I package I will try to do it ASAP
[18:59] <Quintasan> crap
[18:59] <Quintasan> I will make the package if noone else does :P
[18:59]  * Quintasan tends to miss important parts of sentence
[18:59] <Artemis_Fowl> Quintasan: sure, if you could that would be great
[19:02] <Artemis_Fowl> btw it depends on imagemagick and policykit-kde. I don't know the exact package names though, I just checkout policykit-kde from KDE's svn and install the libpolkit-* packages (all except from the -gnome ones)
[19:02] <Artemis_Fowl> anyway, all we need is a simple package.
[19:03]  * Artemis_Fowl has to go now...
[19:11] <ryanakca> ScottK: Around?
[19:15]  * JontheEchidna will be back sunday
[19:16]  * seele waves
[19:44] <Mamarok> Riddell: there is somebody missing in the picture legend in the upper row, who is this?
[19:48] <smarter> Mamarok: where's the picture with legend? :)
[19:53] <neversfelde> Mamarok: seems to be Tonio
[19:54] <neversfelde> smarter: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3969
[19:55] <smarter> thanks
[19:55] <smarter> indeed, it's Tonio :)
[20:15] <neversfelde> any karaoke live cams? :)
[20:52] <smarter> damn, the "About Kubuntu" thing in the Live-CD is cool, too bad it isn't translated, at least in French
[21:44] <ScottK> ryanakca: I'm around now.
[21:48] <ryanakca> ScottK: Could you sign my GPG key please?
[21:49]  * ryanakca grumbles about having gotten lost on the way to the karaoke
[21:49] <ScottK> ryanakca: Sure.  Bring your passport.  Did you sign mine before, I don't recall?
[21:50] <ryanakca> ScottK: It's a tad outdated, but sure, what room?
[21:50] <ryanakca> And yes, I've signed yours
[22:07] <freeflying> ScottK: did i sign your key?
[22:07] <astromme> JontheEchidna: ping
[22:07] <ScottK> freeflying: You did.
[22:08] <ScottK> freeflying: You took the information anyway.  I'm not sure if I've gotten it from you (my email is about 2000 messages behind).
[22:08] <freeflying> ScottK: I should sign yours :)
[22:09] <ScottK> And I have your information, but signing will have to wait until I get back where I have my key.
[22:09] <freeflying> ScottK: its ok
[22:51] <neversfelde> what is conman?
[22:53] <Nightrose> connection manager
[22:53] <Nightrose> new network manager iiuc
[22:53] <neversfelde> Nightrose: never heard, do you have a link?
[22:53] <ScottK> It's being discussed here at UDS as a possibility, but I don't know anything else about it.
[22:53] <Nightrose> neversfelde: nope sorry
[22:55] <neversfelde> mhh, wicd has an ncurses frontend  :)
[22:55] <neversfelde> conman is from moblin?
[23:06] <freeflying> ScottK: seems conman is writen with gtk, is it?
[23:20] <ScottK> freeflying: I don't know exactly, but I recall sebas making some comment about things on the way to support it in KDE.