[00:39] <billybigrigger_> is there anyway to go about asking for a package to be included in karmic?
[03:12] <samd> billybigrigger_: i dont know, but if i were you, i would ask on #ubuntu-motu
[03:16] <billybigrigger_> nm
[03:16] <billybigrigger_> already a package
[03:17] <billybigrigger_> the ppa was from hardy, so its been packaged :P
[03:17] <billybigrigger_> wow, karmic channel is just buzzing lately :P
[05:01] <Tekno_> good morning
[13:31] <mrwes> anyone else having issues with mount DVD's?
[13:31] <mrwes> Hal is giving me an 'uknown' error
[13:32] <mrwes> unknown*
[14:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[16:45] <BluesKaj> any luck install K3B ? I have kde3libs etc installed but i have broken dependencies when trying to install k3b " The following packages have unmet dependencies:k3b: Depends: kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.1.4-2) , E: Broken packages. When trying tinstall kdelibs-data , apt wants to remove amarok-kde3 which would like to keep , Can you guys suggest a workaround ?
[16:49] <BluesKaj> amarok2 ain't my cuppa tea ..wish the devs would ask users what they're fav options and usages are before they go ahead and use a different srtucture for our fav apps :(
[16:50] <DanaG> I tried amarok2.... hated it.  UI wasn't customizable the way I like it.
[16:50] <DanaG> I like just two panes: file tree on the left, and current playlist or folder-contents on right.
[16:51] <BluesKaj> it's just -plain clunky and fugly
[16:52] <arand> DanaG: Is there a good file-tree view in amarok? I've switched to gmusicbrowser for that sole purpose...
[16:53] <DanaG> I use quodlibet.
[16:53] <DanaG> Doesn't play well with notify-osd, though -- or rather, notify-OSD doesn't handle its bubbles nicely.
[16:54] <DanaG> You can end up with a huge backlog of bubbles if you change tracks multiple times.
[16:54] <Twigathy> DanaG: you might like Sonata then... (mpd client)
[16:55] <DanaG> I'd rather not have a music player "daemon" -- I just want an app.  =þ
[16:55]  * arand wishes foobar2000 was available for GNU/Linux *longing sigh*
[16:56] <Twigathy> DanaG: mpd is pretty lightweight >_>
[17:11]  * Twigathy wonders if the util-linux update today fixes the 100% CPU use blkid issue
[17:15] <arand> apport not being able to send bug reports on ubuntu-one, is that really right?
[17:21] <kklimonda> arand: I guess it will refuse to send report because ubuntu-one isn't genuine ubuntu package.
[17:26] <arand> kklimonda: indeed
[17:30] <kklimonda> arand: on the other hand you can use ubuntu-bug to send report
[17:54] <BluesKaj> can you guys recommend an app that will erase cdrw/dvdrws besides k3b which I can't install ?
[17:59] <robin0800> BluesKaj: Brasero
[18:03] <macvr> robin0800: can brasero also do multi session recroding?
[18:03] <macvr> ^recording
[18:13] <jmho> hi, I've got font problems with kubuntu 9.10 alpha, what can I do?
[18:14] <TheInfinity> debug it? ;)
[18:14] <jmho> ok, where should I start?
[18:14] <robin0800> macvr: Just checked yes it can
[18:14] <TheInfinity> you use an alpha, you should know this ...
[18:15] <TheInfinity> xorg is a start
[18:15] <macvr> robin0800: where is the setting? is it available in jaunty too? i'm not able to figure it out
[18:15] <kklimonda> both karmic and jaunty have brasero 2.26.1 so it should be available
[18:16] <jmho> TheInfinity: sure, I'm not complaining, should I file a bug report or is it not wanted as it's alpha?
[18:16] <robin0800> macvr: In properties when you have selected a disk
[18:16] <TheInfinity> without a bug report it wont be fixed ;)
[18:17] <macvr> robin0800: ok.. but will this work if i have used a cd for multi-session in nero?
[18:17] <jmho> TheInfinity: ok, so it is not a well known issue?
[18:17] <TheInfinity> jmho: search bug existing reports to answer this
[18:17] <jmho> TheInfinity: ok, thx
[18:17] <robin0800> macvr: Don't know try and report back
[18:18] <macvr> robin0800: i'v tried it previously... i through the cd some where... let me find it and try...
[18:18] <macvr> threw^
[19:24] <BUGabundo> boas noites
[19:25] <coz_> BUGabundo,  good evening   which language is that?
[19:25] <BUGabundo> coz_: hi. Portuguese, of course
[19:25] <coz_> ah ok cool
[19:26] <pace_t_zulu> how's it going BUGabundo?
[19:27] <BUGabundo> pace_t_zulu: really really tired
[19:27] <BluesKaj> what are ppl om karmic using to repalce k3b ?
[19:27] <BluesKaj> om=on
[19:28] <maxb> GNOME :-P
[19:29] <BluesKaj> not kde , k3b ... some joker , maxb
[19:35] <pace_t_zulu> BUGabundo, it is late on your side of the pond
[19:36] <pace_t_zulu> BUGabundo, did you go to UDS?
[19:36] <BUGabundo> Fri May 29 19:36:14 WEST 2009
[19:36] <BUGabundo> pace_t_zulu: I did not
[19:36] <BUGabundo> didn't even manage to listen to most session
[19:36] <BUGabundo> only on mondey
[19:36] <BUGabundo> :(((
[19:36] <BUGabundo> *Monday
[19:38] <pace_t_zulu> BUGabundo, shame... so close to portugual
[19:38] <BUGabundo> pace_t_zulu: not that close!
[19:39] <pace_t_zulu> *Portugal
[19:39] <BUGabundo> to barça it would be like 800kms
[19:39] <BUGabundo> plus nowhere (cheap) to stay
[19:39] <pace_t_zulu> BUGabundo, closer than USA
[19:39] <BUGabundo> eheh
[19:46] <kklimonda> is it just me or is http://www.pitivi.org the first app that has a chance to actually be finished and be usable by users? :)
[19:54] <pace_t_zulu> kklimonda, PiTiVi looks cool... maybe worth looking at for karmic? probably not... maybe karmic+1
[19:56] <kklimonda> pace_t_zulu: 0.11.3 is already in repo, I think I'll try to get 0.13.1 in
[19:56] <pace_t_zulu> kklimonda, good man
[19:57] <pace_t_zulu> kklimonda, how's the weather in poland?
[19:57] <kklimonda> pace_t_zulu: it's raining all day :/
[19:58] <kklimonda> At least it isn't too cold..
[19:58] <kklimonda> but it doesn't feel like the end of may ;)
[20:00] <mlpug> here in finland sun will shine all weekend and temperature they say will be 29C (=too hot)
[20:00] <mlpug> this is not usual
[20:48] <lymeca> So now that KOffice 2 is out, will KOffice 1.x be removed from the karmic repos?
[20:51] <BUGabundo> lymeca: i still see 1.x
[20:52] <lymeca> That was the biggest headache when dist-upgrading to jaunty
[20:52] <lymeca> Anyone who had koffice-kde4 packages installed had them broken when all other packages worked
[20:56] <BUGabundo> ahh yeaj
[20:56] <BUGabundo> we had a bad time with kde4.2.x upgrade on karmic
[21:11] <BUGabundo> [OT] how many users here have signed their CoC ? https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0.1
[21:14] <yofel> <-
[21:14] <Twigathy> hm
[21:14] <Twigathy> Those with common sense will do all those things anyway; those without won't sign the CoC ;)
[21:15] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: as I've said on identi.ca the number of people who has signed it isn't important - It's not like they are accounted for not keeping to it.. :)
[21:26] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: was that the entire dent?
[21:26] <BUGabundo> lolol
[21:27] <BUGabundo> fealt like incompelete
[21:27] <BUGabundo> so who are you tracking identica?
[21:27] <BUGabundo> I just see you replying to me there
[21:27] <kklimonda> you ;)
[21:27] <BUGabundo> eheh
[21:27] <kklimonda> well, I'm tracking !ubuntu
[21:27] <BUGabundo> s/who/how/
[21:27] <kklimonda> I use gwibber
[21:27] <BUGabundo> eheh
[21:28] <BUGabundo> I'll have to check popcon stats on gwibber
[21:28] <BUGabundo> with UDS and all
[21:28] <BUGabundo> I bet its used a lot now
[21:29] <kklimonda> it's another icon in notification area :/
[21:29] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, what are ppl using to blank cdrws & dvdrws , now that k3b won't install properly on some setups
[21:30] <BUGabundo> you can hide it
[21:30] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: no idea!
[21:30] <BUGabundo> I love k3b
[21:30] <BUGabundo> hope we keep it in a good state
[21:52] <BluesKaj> i get errors when installing k3b  on my system, apt wants to remove amarok14
[21:52] <BluesKaj> very strange behaviour there
[21:52] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: let me see what happens on my side
[21:53] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 1.0.5+kde4svn935857+really1.0.5-3ubuntu5
[21:53] <BUGabundo> No CD/DVD writer found.
[21:53] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, are you running amarok Qt
[21:53] <BluesKaj> ?
[21:53] <BUGabundo> that doesn't help !!!
[21:54] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/183919/
[21:55] <BUGabundo> burn to file went ol
[21:55] <BUGabundo> *ok
[21:56] <BluesKaj> no such luck here
[21:56] <BUGabundo> its on your side
[21:56] <BUGabundo> then
[21:56] <BUGabundo> works for me
[21:56] <BUGabundo> I just have that bug
[21:56] <BUGabundo> where after hibernate, DVD drive disapears
[21:56] <BUGabundo> I prob should have filed that one year ago
[21:58] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: you know i can't say your 1st name, even if I want too? lol
[21:59] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: Don't worry - Neither can Japanese nor Americans ;)
[22:00] <BUGabundo> ahahaha
[22:29] <mrwes> two days in a row with sound -- nice work
[22:30] <mrwes> now if I could only mount DVD's I'd be pleased
[22:30] <BUGabundo> mrwes: me too
[22:30] <BUGabundo> its amazing
[22:30] <BUGabundo> I had something to ask
[22:30] <BUGabundo> ahhh I remember
[22:30] <BUGabundo> why do you use Ubuntu?
[22:31] <mrwes> uh?
[22:31] <mrwes> me?
[22:31] <BUGabundo> with all your experience, what brought you to the big YOU ?
[22:31] <BUGabundo> *big U
[22:31] <mrwes> hahah
[22:31] <BUGabundo> damn auto spell checker
[22:32] <mrwes> partly challenge, discontent with Microsoft products -- even thought I dearly depend on them at work
[22:32] <mrwes> performance and stability
[22:32] <mrwes> and cuz I can
[22:32] <mrwes> :)
[22:33] <mrwes> I've only been back in Linux for a little over a year
[22:33] <mrwes> it was like coming home...heh
[22:33] <BUGabundo> ohhh
[22:33] <BUGabundo> forgot about that
[22:34] <mrwes> I'm not an IT guy, but I'm the guy everyone asks to fix0r their puter
[22:34] <mrwes> you know what I mean?
[22:34] <BUGabundo> actually no
[22:34] <BUGabundo> please explain
[22:34] <BUGabundo> ehe
[22:35] <mrwes> My background is quality assurance, and I got tired of not getting the proper support I needed to accomplish my job in regards to computers. So I taught myself
[22:35] <mrwes> I have no formal education in computers
[22:35] <BUGabundo> hehe
[22:35] <mrwes> so now I know more than most :)
[22:35] <mrwes> and now I share
[22:36] <BUGabundo> although mrwes its strange... I have audio, just not everytime
[22:36] <BUGabundo> :\\
[22:36] <mrwes> oh?
[22:36] <mrwes> what are you checking it hourly?
[22:37] <mrwes> I had to actually.....rip a DVD in ....sigh...Windows with DVDFab
[22:37] <mrwes> brb
[22:37] <BUGabundo> grrr
[22:37] <BUGabundo> wind
[22:37] <BUGabundo> NEVER
[22:37] <kklimonda> :D
[22:38] <kklimonda> mrwes: that's what you get for testing alpha ;)
[22:45] <mrwes> kklimonda, thanks for pointing that out
[22:45] <mrwes> I understand the risks
[22:45] <mrwes> I just like to bitch
[22:45] <mrwes> :)
[22:46] <mrwes> Actually the worse part is when my wife sees me using her laptop which is running XP
[22:46] <mrwes> she loves to rub that in
[22:46] <mrwes> er
[22:47] <BUGabundo> grr
[22:47] <BUGabundo> I bet
[22:47] <BUGabundo> install portableubuntu on it, and then say you are testing ti
[22:47] <mrwes> well. there are a couple of programs I think are superior
[22:47] <mrwes> heh
[22:47] <mrwes> Auto Gordian Knot is the best dvd to avi converter
[22:48] <BUGabundo> ahhh yes
[22:48] <mrwes> and I'm quite fond of MS Access
[22:48] <BUGabundo> its mitic
[22:48]  * BUGabundo slaps mrwes so hard, he can see the Solar System from another corner of th Universe
[22:48] <mrwes> although I'm trying to each myself SQL and MySQL
[22:48] <mrwes> heh
[22:48] <mrwes> been using Access for many man years
[22:49] <mrwes> many*
[22:49] <mrwes> I've used it to interface with manufacturing resource programs
[22:49] <mrwes> MPR and ERP
[22:49] <mrwes> it's a must have for me
[22:50] <mrwes> however, most MRP and ERP programs are SQL based, thus the need to learn SQL
[22:51] <mrwes> cuz ODBO is slow
[22:51] <mrwes> ok...'nuff about me, what brings you to the big U as you call it
[22:52] <BUGabundo> Freedom, Human Beings, short release cycle
[22:53] <mrwes> Human beings?
[22:53] <mrwes> wtf is that?
[22:56] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: less chit chatting and more bug triaging :P
[22:56] <BUGabundo> on +1?
[22:56] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: WORK! WORK! WORK!
[22:56] <kklimonda> ;)
[22:58] <BUGabundo> worked a lot all week, didn't even come up here for 2 days
[22:58] <BUGabundo> let me enjoy the little bit of free time I have
[22:58] <BUGabundo> Sunday will be mayhem
[23:00] <kklimonda> why?
[23:01] <mrwes> I've filed my bugs
[23:02] <mrwes> hah...there ya go!
[23:03] <mrwes> kklimonda, why when there is absolutely nothing being said and then some "chit chatting' occurs the ops chime in
[23:03] <mrwes> ?
[23:03] <mrwes> heh
[23:03] <mrwes> but if I ask a question about a bug, I get no response?
[23:04] <kklimonda> mrwes: I'm just teasing BUGabundo ;)
[23:04] <kklimonda> mrwes: maybe your timing isn't right? mostly when I ask about bugs I get some response
[23:05] <BUGabundo> mrwes: kklimonda is one of the few I actualy understend sarcams coming from, so I don't fuel it too much
[23:05] <BUGabundo> eheh
[23:05] <BUGabundo> I get about 75% of the time
[23:06] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: you are probably the first person who gets me :D
[23:06]  * kklimonda hugs BUGabundo 
[23:06]  * BUGabundo mv should IONICE -c3 if it takes more then 10 secs!!! damn
[23:06] <BUGabundo> actually *anything* that depends on IO should do it!
[23:07] <BUGabundo> I've raised pidgin to c2 and still it locks due to a simple mv comand of 8GiBs of data
[23:07] <kklimonda> oh?
[23:07] <kklimonda> weird
[23:07] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: I never get irony/sarcams so consider your self *very* lucky
[23:10] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: do you know who's working on getting gnome-shell into 9.10?
[23:11] <BUGabundo> no
[23:44] <mrwes> Sarcasm?
[23:44] <BUGabundo> me ? never
[23:44] <mrwes> I thrive on it :)