[00:01] Hi, can anyone take a look at bug 380161 ? I have been able to confirm it, do I need to gather any more information, or should I take it upstream? [00:01] Launchpad bug 380161 in audacious "audacious won't 'display track information'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/380161 [00:02] kakemann: Ill take a look ;) [00:03] thanks [00:04] kakemann: All the important stuff is there [00:04] its a pretty neat bug report as far as i can see [00:04] hmm [00:04] ok, I'll try to post it, and they will probably ask it they need more info [00:05] yeah [00:05] its a bit dodgy what with it only happening when you hit X [00:05] but it should work anyway [00:05] especially if the close button isnt that prominent [00:05] but its worth asking him if he gets the problem when he hits "Close Window" kakemann [00:06] ok, I'll do that [00:06] ok ^^ [00:11] kakemann, please, after filing a bug upstream, update the bug on the "also affects" with the upstream bug # [00:11] will do :) [00:14] thank you :-) [00:16] kakemann, BTW -- when you open an upstream bug, please add to it the link to our bug, so that upstream can look at it (if they feel the need, of course) [00:16] hmmmm, I tried to add the link to the bug, but I get an error saying lauchpad does not recognize the tracker [00:16] and, again, THANK YOU for helping [00:16] you should have an option to add the URL [00:18] here is the link : http://redmine.atheme.org/issues/show/103 [00:19] I get an error when I try to add it: [00:19] Launchpad does not recognize the bug tracker at this URL. [00:20] weird. kakemann, can you give me the upstream bug link? I will try it here [00:20] here is the link : http://redmine.atheme.org/issues/show/103 [00:20] duh [00:20] really, really getting tired [00:22] hehe [00:22] yeah, seems LP is slightly lost [00:23] oh [00:23] heh. kakemann, redmine is deprecated... [00:23] you should file the bug on http://jira.atheme.org/ [00:24] but, still, LP is wrong [00:25] OTH, jira seems to be empty [00:25] oy vey... [00:25] yeah, I look in jira, but I did'nt see any bugs, so i figured they had'nt moved yet [00:26] ah well. Do it, right now, by selecting "I just want to register...", and add the bug link as a comment [00:26] or you want me to do that? [00:27] in LP? [00:27] yes [00:27] ok, done [00:28] kakemann, thank you for your help [00:28] darn! still to be looked at is LP... [00:29] thanks for your help [00:33] Could someone mark https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/381416 as wishlist? [00:33] Launchpad bug 381416 in notify-osd "Jaunty's notify-osd should have a close button" [Undecided,New] [00:35] hggdh: how do I mark this bug as triaged? [00:36] Pfiffer: done [00:37] Ampelbein: Thanks [00:37] Pfiffer: you're welcome, thanks for helping out. [00:59] heh... I couldn't connect for 2 hours.. [01:02] should bug 379942 and bug 381105 be considered duplicates since they both invove breaking of urls containing special characters even though one is for ftp links and one is for http links? [01:02] Launchpad bug 379942 in evolution "special characters ends http link in evolution" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379942 [01:02] Launchpad bug 381105 in evolution "Handling of ftp links containing username and password" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381105 [01:02] hggdh: are you online? [01:02] or anyone from bug control? [01:03] i need somebody to check bug 381504 and see if it contains all data for apport-retrace to generate backtrace.. [01:03] kklimonda: Bug 381504 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/381504 is private [01:03] kklimonda, I am here [01:04] kklimonda, we will not have access to the bug until apport-retrace ands with it (and subscribe us) [01:04] i see [01:04] if it was created via apport, then it should have what it takes [01:05] kakemann, I will mark it triaged. You need to be a member of bug-control to do that [01:05] thanks [01:06] kakemann, what would you set as Importance there? [01:06] I figured something like that since I didnt see the triaged status, thanks :) [01:07] sorry, hmm, Low since it's an easy work around, use the close button [01:07] kakemann, done, thanks [01:08] thanks :) [01:09] kakemann, now I will have a look at the Evo bugs you pointed out [01:10] ok [01:10] yeee. The special character issue with URLs is also present on LP ;-) [01:10] hehe [01:11] it handles the "_" but not the "ø" [01:12] hggdh: what do you think about bug 381490 - it's triaged as debian has already bug report ready but I wonder about severity.. [01:12] Launchpad bug 381490 in xdg-user-dirs "xdg-user-dirs has no man pages; URL in README is incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381490 [01:13] without manpages and with broken link to documentation it's hard to tell how to use those programs.. [01:14] xdg-user-dirs-update has at least some --help but xdg-user-dir --help prints out: "-help_DIR:-/home/kklimonda" ;) [01:15] is it Low Importance neverthkess? [01:15] nevertheless [01:20] I would say so, kklimonda [01:20] it is not a critical issue [01:21] kakemann, I have to walk the dogs now, will be back in 1 hour [01:21] hddgh is one busy individual [01:21] then I will be asleep i hope, it's 02.21 AM her now :D [01:21] hggdh: it also isn't enough for Medium as a user can use internet to find documentation? [01:23] hggdh: I can ask in the upstream bug if they consider it the same problem, or if they want me to open 2 seperate bugs for them [01:23] hggdh: then can you mark it triaged/low ? [01:25] kklimonda, I will [01:25] thanks [01:26] kakemann, yes, you can (and you will also find me there ;-) [01:26] brb [01:39] maco: ping [01:45] hmm, is it bad that I tried to save my ubuntu wiki page using cntrl+s ? [01:45] [02:02] anyone know when the American Regional Board meeting.. their wiki is un-informational [02:02] meeting is* [02:59] Can anyone take a look at bug 379971 ? How can I triage it? [02:59] Launchpad bug 379971 in aspell "Turkish is always listed in GTK apps even when not installed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379971 [03:02] torkiano: do you have an example app that does this? [03:02] bcurtiswx, empathy, as the reporter said [03:03] torkiano: yeah so much for my great browsing skills .. sorry lol [03:06] torkiano: hmm, yeah if they tested it on Fedora with it not being a problem, it may be with gtkspell or aspell [03:07] torkiano: im not sure, is aspell or gtkspell an ubuntu only app ? [03:07] bcurtiswx, as far I know, no [03:08] bcurtiswx, aspell is a gnu program: http://aspell.net/ [03:12] hmm, based on the package descriptions on packages.ubuntu.com it seems as if gtkspell checks for the mispelled word and is there to highlight it, while aspell provides the spell check itself [03:13] torkiano: i could be wrong, but if im any bit close, then i believe reporting the bug against aspell is the way to go [03:15] now for triaging after finding the right package. [03:18] there isn't really a way i can think of for aspell other than getting ubuntu version, package version from the reporter [03:18] bcurtiswx, Can you set the importance, then?Or Is it necessary more information? [03:18] torkiano: you can also report the bug upstream [03:19] torkiano: i can set importance.. which do you think it needs? [03:21] bcurtiswx, low, maybe? [03:22] torkiano: i agree that its low, its more of a cosmetic bug [03:22] torkiano: any questions about reporting upstream? [03:23] bcurtiswx, yeah, and It's on a non-core application [03:23] torkiano: exactly [03:24] torkiano: once pushed upstream let me know and I can mark it triaged [03:24] bcurtiswx, ok, thank you! [03:25] torkiano: you are welcome ... and thank you, pushing bugs upstream is a great thing to do :) [03:29] bcurtiswx, done [03:32] torkiano: set, thx [03:33] bcurtiswx, thank you for your support and your time. Time to go to bed ;) bye! [03:33] torkiano: thanks for triaging.. goodnight [04:05] kklimonda, still there? [04:05] yeah [04:07] OK, so bug 381490 should be medium, correct? [04:07] Launchpad bug 381490 in xdg-user-dirs "xdg-user-dirs has no man pages; URL in README is incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381490 [04:07] no, i think we decided it's low [04:08] I had proposed low, but you countered that [04:08] and I think I agree with you: if no man pages are available, at least the link should be correct [04:09] kklimonda, the package is synced or merged from Debian? [04:10] it's merged [04:10] ok. then we could even have a local temp patch... [04:10] medium, deal? [04:10] ok [04:10] :) [04:11] done. [04:11] thanks [04:11] hggdh: you are somehow working on evolution bugs? [04:11] kklimonda, whenever I have time, yes [04:12] is bug 381144 a duplicate? [04:12] Launchpad bug 381144 in evolution "evolution crashed segfault in libc-2.9.so" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381144 [04:12] hmm [04:12] not this [04:12] bug 381144 [04:12] kakemann, I agree that the evo bugs on URL pretty much point to the same issue [04:12] argh.. [04:13] * hggdh waits... :-D [04:13] check out bug 381504 again - it was already retraced by apport [04:13] kklimonda: Bug 381504 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/381504 is private [04:13] looking [04:14] (it was also public for a while, probably marked private because bug control hadn't checked it and it contains email address) [04:16] the reporter marked it public, then backtracked [04:16] also it is similar to bug 359658 so maybe we could assign it to evolution-indicator [04:16] Launchpad bug 359658 in evolution-indicator "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/359658 [04:17] let me look at it [04:17] (I think they may be even connected somehow but It's already late and reading stacktraces is like swimming in pool of goo ;)) [04:20] the stacktraces seem similar (top 3 frames): IA__g_str_equal, org_gnome_mail_new_notify, epl_invoke [04:20] yeah [04:22] kklimonda, so now we should check with the reporter if the new evol-indicator has been installed... [04:22] the new evol-indi is only for karmic [04:23] ah [04:23] we could ask him to get it from https://edge.launchpad.net/~ted/+archive/bugfix PPA [04:23] Ted has prepared package for Jaunty [04:23] K, I will ask the reporter, and mark it as a possible-dup [04:24] thanks [04:24] kklimonda, when are you going to join us at -control? ;-) [04:24] hggdh: Soon, asking you guys for help with every bug is getting tiresome :) [04:24] heh [04:25] hggdh: not that I don't like working with you, I'll also ask for help - but some bugs are easy to triage :) [04:25] :-) [04:30] OK, I have asked the reporter to test. Let's see what happens now [06:20] hi === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal === savvas_ is now known as savvas [08:12] bcurtiswx, it was 2am here when you pinged, now its 3am where you are :P === mrooney1 is now known as mrooney === dwg_ is now known as dwg [11:55] Hi I found while configuring my server that the default configuration in /etc/host.conf included the line "order hosts,bind" which should be "order hosts bind". Where should I file a bug report for this? [12:00] Farssi: Hmmm... [12:00] Just under Ubuntu I would think [12:00] I could be wrong [12:03] sarah@pluto:~% dpkg -S /etc/host.conf 9:03PM [12:03] base-files: /etc/host.conf [12:03] sarah@pluto:~% madison base-files 9:03PM [12:03] base-files | 5ubuntu4 | http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages [12:03] base-files | 5ubuntu4 | http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Sources [12:03] so, base-files, please [12:04] (as that's what is generating the file) [12:08] !base-files [12:08] Factoid 'base-files' not found [12:08] !info base-files [12:08] Hobbsee: base-files (source: base-files): Debian base system miscellaneous files. In component main, is required. Version 5ubuntu4 (jaunty), package size 64 kB, installed size 452 kB [12:09] oh, ty :) [12:09] y/w :) [12:09] Hobbsee: Nice work, but in future you may wanna pastebin that sorta thing [12:09] because alot of copy/pasteing can flood the channel :/ [12:10] i could. [12:10] however, it's 5 lines, and pastebins are a pain, and it's a quiet channel [12:10] Hobbsee: thanks [12:15] Hobbsee: Yeah I guess, but it is good practice :) [12:58] Anyone know how I get the user list to show in xchat? [12:59] maco: ping again (maybe the times right) === yuriy_ is now known as yuriy [13:07] Anyone know how to show the user list in xchat? === asac_ is now known as asac === kklimonda__ is now known as kklimonda === erhesrhsrtb54vyh is now known as Elbrus [17:44] hi hggdh [17:47] hi, one question about support (and LTS ans Kubuntu), i just see kubuntu 8.04 is not marked LTS (i lag i konw) what's the meaning of this for the support time and bug triage process, and how to identify the package who are no more supported ? if someone can point me to the right doc for that :p [17:48] same question about difference between a desktop and a serveur packages... [18:07] YoBoY: I'm not sure about kubuntu but 8.04 desktop is supported till 2011 and server till 2013 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [18:09] asomething: yes i know, but for exemple the 6.06 desktop support is stopping next month, how i identify what is desktop and what is serveur? only the need of X ? [18:12] hmmm... good point. as we haven't had a LTS reach EOL yet, I'm not sure. this is definitely something that needs to be clarified. [18:12] where's G_81? Ah, gone. Ah well. [18:39] is it just me or is launchpad completely unusable today? [18:39] yeah [18:40] it's just me or launchpad is unusable? [18:40] Unusable. [18:40] thanks:) [18:49] chriscoulsen: edge is working fine for me as far as i can tell [18:49] chrisccoulsen: * [18:50] chrisccoulson: * ^^ [18:51] bdmurray: ping [18:52] Wasn't for me a few minutes ago... *checks* [18:52] :/ [18:54] I'm at 2 and half minutes and it still hasn' [18:55] t loaded all the images on my user page [18:55] you using edge.launchpad.net? [18:55] or just launchpad.net? [18:56] edge. [18:59] Hmm :/ [19:24] boas noites [19:24] ohayou [19:26] kklimonda: hey [19:26] olá BUGabundo [19:26] missed you all [19:26] busy couple of days! [19:27] :) [19:27] bencrisford1: hey. fixed a couple things on your wiki page [19:27] * BUGabundo ppl should *read* before posting [19:27] * BUGabundo _looks in the mirror_ [19:28] *whistles* [19:35] BUGabundo: Oh? What did you fix? [19:35] :) [19:36] bencrisford1: aren't you subscribed to your own wiki ?? [19:36] lol [19:37] * BUGabundo thinks of trashing it then [19:37] bencrisford1: see the diff [19:37] eerrr [19:37] * BUGabundo filing a bzr bug with the longest subject *ever* [19:38] BUGabundo: what did you change? :P [19:38] bencrisford1: see the diff [19:39] i see :) [19:39] oh thanks (Y) [19:39] * BUGabundo bug subject is so big, LP timedout [19:39] :P [19:40] BUGabundo: LP is timeouting all the time today.. [19:41] ahhhhhhhhhhhhh [19:41] so its not me [19:44] filed, after 3 page refreshes [19:44] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/381736 [19:44] Launchpad bug 381736 in bzr "version is (1, 15, 0), and the maximum is (1, 15, 0)" [Undecided,New] [19:48] BUGabundo: it worked fine :D [19:48] and my bzr is older then yours :) [19:50] kklimonda: as usual, I'm using beta [19:50] :) [19:50] BUGabundo: you really have a lot of patience :) [19:51] had to downgrade to karmic [21:11] [OT] how many users here have signed their CoC ? https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0.1 [22:02] BUGabundo: I have [22:03] bencrisford: eheh [22:03] you need to , to apply for membership [22:04] yeah I know :) [22:05] BUGabundo: btw, how long have you been contributing to ubuntu before applying for membership? [22:05] me?? [22:05] since 2007 I guess [22:05] or even 2006 [22:06] nice :) [22:06] of course not always *as* active as now.... [22:06] but its like wine, time makes it better [22:06] :D [22:08] you ? [22:10] well, I'm active on LP for last few months - it's somehow correlated to taking my meds.. yummy pills.. earlier I was mostly jumping from board to board helping various people. :) [22:10] ahaahaahahahahahahahahaha [22:21] what u need to do if u fixed a bug ? [22:22] copy/paste the debdiff to the bugreport or ? [22:22] dupondje: what bug? is it in stable release or in development? [22:22] stable [22:23] !sru | dupondje [22:23] dupondje: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [22:23] you must follow a procedure outlined there [22:24] its prolly not important enough to get into stable :) [22:25] eheh [22:26] its https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/307667 [22:26] Launchpad bug 307667 in dutch "Spelling checker does nothing because nl_BE spelling is missing or isn't configured by default" [Undecided,Confirmed] [22:28] so where to put the fix ? ;) [22:28] you can attach debdiff to this report [22:29] dupondje: that one should be fixed [22:29] its a minor impact dough [22:29] bdmurray: ping [22:29] then again so is the fix [22:29] debdiff in file form ? [22:29] or just c/p ? [22:30] dupondje: Remember to tick the box "This attatchment is a patch" [22:30] dupondje: yes - as an attachment [22:31] added :) [22:31] dupondje: also subscribe ubuntu-sru to this bug and [22:31] and.. and.. i forgot what I was going to write.. [22:31] :p [22:31] kklimonda: :ppp [22:34] kklimonda: just replied to a bug on LP with my @ubuntu address [22:34] and it worked [22:34] YAY [22:35] :) [22:39] finally... [22:39] hggdh: woot [22:39] [[]] Carlos [22:40] [[]] [22:40] or {[]...[]} [22:41] its time to kill the bugs :P [22:53] hmm.. are there any plans to keep apport enabled for KK? I was thinking maybe create a black list of source packages that are excluded from reporting (for example firefox).. [22:53] kklimonda: mine already is [22:53] hehe [22:53] hey bcurtiswx [22:53] hi BUGabundo [22:53] BUGabundo: you use development version [22:53] BUGabundo: I was thinking about keeping it enabled after release.. [22:54] incoming = ~//ubuntu/ for https://launchpad.net/~dupondje/+archive/ppa = ~dupondje/dupondje/ubuntu ? [22:54] I know, devs says that most crashes are hammered during testing.. [22:55] No, ~dupondje/ppa/ubuntu [22:55] mmm k :) [22:56] kklimonda: ahhh [22:57] there was some discusiong about that already [22:57] it takes some time before it gets shown in the ppa ? :) [22:57] pitti is against it [22:57] dupondje: a while [22:57] but feel free to raise it again [22:57] BUGabundo: what are pros and cons? [22:57] kklimonda: no idea [22:57] lousy memory, remember? [22:57] BUGabundo: Can I read about it somewhere? [22:57] :) [22:57] sorry, i forgot (sic) ;) [22:57] google it or manually search the ML [22:58] -devel or -devel-discuss [22:58] not sure [22:58] ach, I've found it [22:59] "The problem is mainly that we do not want to create the false assumption that the current small team could handle all incoming crash reports from millions of users of stable release" [22:59] woo that was fast [22:59] its true [22:59] I got lucky [22:59] poor bug squad [22:59] kklimonda: we talk about minuts/hours ? :) [22:59] dupondje: minutes [23:19] Hi, I linked an external project in my launchpad bug (Bug #381429), but upstream changed it to a related project. I Don't see how to change the also affects in launchpad, or how to delete it and add another. Is there a way? [23:19] Launchpad bug 381429 in vte "gnome-terminal doesn't handle Unicode complex text rendering" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381429 [23:19] sorry to bug, just trying to learn this stuff so I can be useful some day [23:20] taxman: I'll take a look ;) [23:20] tx muchly [23:22] Underneath the info bar at the top [23:22] where it has status, importance etc [23:22] it should say also effects? [23:24] yes, but when I click the arrow to pull it down, it doesn't give me a way to change it for the external prject line (the first one) [23:24] You want to remove the gnome-terminal listing? [23:24] yes and change it to vte with the same bug number, since that's what upstream changed it to [23:25] well they are both on the same bug report [23:25] but if you change the gnome-terminal line to invalid [23:25] and the other kept the same [23:25] it will mark the gnome-terminal "bit of it" invalid [23:26] but then there will be no link to upstream unless I file a new one to vte, right? [23:26] well vte is in that report, hang on let me just check something [23:26] !vte [23:26] Factoid 'vte' not found [23:26] !info vte [23:26] bencrisford: Package vte does not exist in jaunty [23:27] That IS odd :/ [23:27] you are running jaunty right taxman? [23:27] yeah in ubuntu it's libvte9 and libvte- a couple things. Yes [23:27] !info libvte9 [23:27] kklimonda: libvte9 (source: vte): Terminal emulator widget for GTK+ 2.0 - runtime files. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.20.0-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 585 kB, installed size 2160 kB [23:28] yeah, !info doesn't work for source packages [23:28] oh [23:28] woops [23:28] me and ubot4 are only just getting to know each other [23:29] ok, well as long as there isn't a way to change the description of the upstream link that I was missing. It would be a nice feature though [23:30] perhaps I should find where to file a launchpad feature request [23:30] drift over to #launchpad :) [23:30] they'll know [23:31] taxman: maybe it will get updated later? bugwatches tend to lag behind. [23:31] oh, it was changes 2 days ago [23:32] bencrisford: I'll try that [23:36] :) [23:36] thanks guys [23:37] or gals :) [23:37] uh well at most singular if both, you get the idea :) [23:41] taxman: :P np [23:41] :S Its my membership meeting next week kklimonada [23:42] bencrisford: already? [23:42] lucky [23:42] I know :) [23:42] mine took 2 months to get on calendar [23:42] i applied on the 17th [23:43] in fact i dont know if im on a calendar of such? [23:43] i put my name in the table? is that not it [23:43] :S [23:43] BUGabundo: What calendar? [23:44]