| ubottu | Artichoke200 called the ops in #ubuntu () | 00:21 |
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| ubottu | Artichoke200 called the ops in #ubuntu-proxy-users () | 00:26 |
| Flannel | sigh | 00:27 |
| Flannel | Artichoke200: how can we help you? | 00:28 |
| Artichoke200 | I need to get in #ubuntu | 00:28 |
| Artichoke200 | Every time I try to get in, it takes me to the proxy thing | 00:29 |
| Artichoke200 | I'm not using a proxy | 00:29 |
| Flannel | Artichoke200: You were just in #ubuntu, you were abusive. | 00:29 |
| Artichoke200 | .. | 00:29 |
| Artichoke200 | I was, but I can't get back in | 00:29 |
| Flannel | Artichoke200: What did you need the ops for in #ubuntu? | 00:29 |
| Artichoke200 | Everyone was mad at me for giving my opinion, and also, I wanted to know how to get past the proxy thing | 00:30 |
| Flannel | Artichoke200: you were already in #ubuntu at that time | 00:31 |
| Artichoke200 | I know | 00:31 |
| Artichoke200 | But I wanted to know how to get past that next time I come to #ubuntu | 00:31 |
| Artichoke200 | When I leave | 00:31 |
| Artichoke200 | Could someone get me in #ubuntu? | 00:32 |
| Flannel | Artichoke200: Before I do, do you understand that you were being rude and offtopic? | 00:36 |
| Artichoke200 | Yes. | 00:36 |
| Flannel | Artichoke200: and it won't happen again? | 00:36 |
| Artichoke200 | Mhmm | 00:37 |
| Flannel | Can I get you to read the IRC guidelines, so that there's no ambiguity about the rules in #ubuntu | 00:37 |
| Flannel | !guidelines | Artichoke200 | 00:37 |
| ubottu | Artichoke200: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | 00:37 |
| Artichoke200 | Okay | 00:38 |
| Artichoke200 | Will you let me in now? | 00:38 |
| Flannel | Artichoke200: try reconnecting | 00:40 |
| Artichoke200 | Ok | 00:40 |
| Artichoke200 | Thanks | 00:40 |
| Flannel | Artichoke200: If there's nothing else we can help you with today, please part this channel. thanks | 00:41 |
| Artichoke200 | Okay | 00:42 |
| Jack_Sparrow | @login | 00:55 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 00:55 |
| Jack_Sparrow | @btlogin | 00:56 |
| LjL | hi. may i ask how this sort of behavior http://paste.ubuntu.com/183250/ is compatible with being let back into the channel almost immediately | 01:06 |
| jussi01 | LjL: has there been an issue since him being let back in? (I havent looked) | 01:07 |
| LjL | jussi01: not a big issue, although asking how one becomes an op sounds trollish enough to me. | 01:08 |
| jussi01 | LjL: hrm, well lets watch him, and see. we can always re-ban. | 01:09 |
| LjL | is the current belief among ops that if someone appears to have more or less understood what #ubuntu is about, everything they might have done 5 minutes earlier is forgiven and forgotten, even if they spammed the channel, wasted people's time, etc? | 01:09 |
| LjL | is there any respect for the time actual non-trolls put into the channel? | 01:09 |
| Flannel | LjL: I banned him, I let him back in, I dealt with that question. I'm not forgetting anything. | 01:10 |
| LjL | i don't believe he should be entitled to receive support in #ubuntu *in the first place*, after the way he behaved. | 01:10 |
| LjL | irc is a privilege, not a right. | 01:10 |
| jussi01 | LjL: its not forgive and forget, just a second chance to sort himself out. | 01:10 |
| LjL | jussi01: he was given a second chance twice, since he was given !ot twice, not counting your !language | 01:11 |
| jussi01 | LjL: he has come here, been spoken too, and agreed to sort it out. if its a problem again, we can ban him again, then move on. | 01:12 |
| LjL | jussi01: then look at what he's just saying in #ubuntu please. | 01:13 |
| jussi01 | LjL: right, Im watching now, and I assume Flannel is also, | 01:14 |
| LjL | of course. | 01:14 |
| LjL | bye. | 01:14 |
| Flannel | Alright, heading home. So, I'm no longer watching him intently ;) | 01:20 |
| elky | wait, did artichoke use mibbit the first time? | 05:08 |
| elky | he did ok. for a moment there it looked sus. | 05:09 |
| Flannel | thats the only reason it ended up being a ban | 05:11 |
| elky | i do fail to believe that 45 seconds is long enough to read the guidelines. | 05:11 |
| Flannel | (and why I removed it even after it was clear he only glanced at the guidelines) | 05:11 |
| Flannel | If he wasn't using mibbit, it would've only been a removal, not a ban. | 05:12 |
| elky | meanwhile you've taught him it's ok to pretend to read the guidelines. congrats. | 05:12 |
| Flannel | No, he agreed to follow them, whether or not he actually read them. | 05:12 |
| Flannel | There isn't *that* much to read. | 05:13 |
| elky | Flannel, we are not into running con-jobs. i'd much rather people know what they're agreeing to. | 05:13 |
| Flannel | elky: 45 seconds is enough to read the actual guidelines. You don't need to read the paragraphs to understand them. | 05:13 |
| Flannel | But the point still stands, were he not using mibbit, he wouldn't have been banned at all, just removed, and would've been able to come back right away. | 05:13 |
| elky | mibbit or not. ban or not. please make sure that when people read the guidelines, they *actually* read the guidelines. if they dont and get taught they can fake it, then they're *never* going to read them. | 05:15 |
| elky | they're not going to read them when they have a real ban, since their experience tells them that we're absolute freaking fools. | 05:16 |
| elky | i'd really rather us not be considered absolute freaking fools. it makes things *harder*. | 05:16 |
| Flannel | elky: +1 | 05:35 |
| ubottu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 06:22 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 06:22 |
| Flannel | nice, no takers. | 06:22 |
| === evilGary is now known as Chipmunk | ||
| * Myrtti nibbles Chipmunk | 08:10 | |
| Chipmunk | mmmm | 08:10 |
| * Chipmunk bites Myrtti | 08:10 | |
| Tm_T | hurry, pull his whiskers! | 08:10 |
| * Chipmunk scarpers away | 08:11 | |
| Bacta | Hello Flannel | 08:13 |
| Flannel | Hi Bacta | 08:20 |
| Bacta | Hello :) | 08:20 |
| Bacta | Was wondering if we could talk about this ban | 08:21 |
| ikonia | what's up ? | 08:24 |
| Bacta | Pizza :) | 08:27 |
| ikonia | ok, what do you want to talk about, what ban, and what's your take this morning | 08:28 |
| Bacta | My take this morning? | 08:30 |
| ikonia | yes, what do you want to talk about, what's your comment for this morning | 08:30 |
| Bacta | Ok, well Flannel said he would consider removing it on Wednesday | 08:31 |
| Bacta | it's now Friday my time and I haven't had the chance to talk to him about it until now | 08:32 |
| Flannel | I did say that, | 08:33 |
| Flannel | However, at that time I had overlooked a previous discussion you had where you were told to come back "in a month" (from mid May) | 08:33 |
| Bacta | I see | 08:33 |
| ikonia | Flannel: ahhh good you are active, I thought you had skulked off | 08:34 |
| Flannel | ikonia: I didn't see a need to ask the same question you were asking :) I was finishing something up in another window though. | 08:34 |
| ikonia | Bacta: anything else ? | 08:35 |
| * jussi01 waves | 09:10 | |
| Flannel | Howdy jussi01 | 09:10 |
| * Pici yawns | 13:10 | |
| jussi01 | Pici: dont jinx it, quiet days are good. | 13:11 |
| * Myrtti gives Pici a lollipop | 13:11 | |
| Pici | jussi01: Oh, I'm tired, not bored at #u | 13:12 |
| ikonia | 1 | 13:33 |
| Pici | 2 | 13:38 |
| ikonia | sory | 13:38 |
| ikonia | sorry - typo | 13:38 |
| Pici | I'm not sure I can forgive you | 13:38 |
| ikonia | oh go on | 13:42 |
| Jack_Sparrow | Shuuuuuush, Hehe, be verrrrrrrwy quiet, we are hunting moles... | 13:43 |
| Myrtti | *yawn* | 13:43 |
| Jack_Sparrow | @login | 14:09 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 14:09 |
| Jack_Sparrow | @btlogin | 14:09 |
| genii | @login | 14:18 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 14:18 |
| genii | @btlogin | 14:18 |
| Jack_Sparrow | Coffee is on me this am | 14:18 |
| Myrtti | I need milk for that :-( | 14:22 |
| Jack_Sparrow | I use half cocoa in every coffee | 14:23 |
| Jack_Sparrow | FYI from earlier <epiclulz> dont make me f****** ddos you * added by me | 14:24 |
| genii | Man. I sooo need coffee today too | 14:26 |
| genii | Jack_Sparrow: Hold the cocoa please | 14:26 |
| === vorian is now known as they | ||
| === they is now known as vorian | ||
| Myrtti | should I understand what's going on in -ot? | 16:42 |
| Myrtti | I don't know what to say or think | 16:49 |
| Pici | ditto | 16:58 |
| Myrtti | mattwhatever is tiptoeing on it | 17:10 |
| Pici | Yes. | 17:10 |
| Myrtti | and I'm gonna get some proper trousers on (not gonna go shopping with my jammies on) and get some milk and perhaps a wee ickle can of cider or perry | 17:10 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, aa3b said: ubottu: that link is not working | 18:30 |
| Pici | meh | 18:42 |
| Mamarok | hm, had this aa3b in my focus this afternoon in #k, laughing at people without reason... | 19:38 |
| Mamarok | http://paste.ubuntu.com/183829/ | 19:40 |
| Pici | He was talking about me. | 20:07 |
| Pici | He claimed I was stalking him because I was in #ubuntu AND #ubuntu-offtopic AND #kubuntu and so was he. | 20:08 |
| Flannel | Pici: er... you're stalking me too! | 20:08 |
| Flannel | You're in #ubuntu-ops as well... | 20:09 |
| Pici | oh no! | 20:09 |
| Flannel | and... and... stalker! | 20:09 |
| Myrtti | OH NOES! | 20:09 |
| Myrtti | HIDE | 20:09 |
| Pici | *gasp* | 20:09 |
| === Chipmunk is now known as Gary | ||
| ikonia | meatball: you are being blocked from ubuntu because your ident is "fuckoff" | 21:21 |
| meatball | whoops | 21:22 |
| Gary | Myrtti: you should have gone shopping with your jim jams on, it'd have been funny | 21:45 |
| Myrtti | they did ask for my id at alko anyway | 21:46 |
| Myrtti | ie. state monopoly for booze | 21:46 |
| Gary | haha, in finland? | 21:47 |
| Myrtti | yeah | 21:47 |
| Myrtti | ah, to be young again | 21:47 |
| Myrtti | tomorrow the schools end and graduation parties | 21:48 |
| * Myrtti remembers hers ten years ago | 21:48 | |
| Myrtti | the cake and the bubbly wine \o/ | 21:48 |
| Tm_T | kids... | 21:51 |
| tomaw | does someone here know the dates for the '09 ubuntu dev summit? | 23:14 |
| tomaw | ah, nm it seems google + channel topics know | 23:15 |
| Daviey | tomaw: karmic finished today :) | 23:15 |
| tomaw | aye | 23:16 |
| tomaw | using google to search for it seemed to require I know the silly names rather than it was the latest one | 23:16 |
| Daviey | :D | 23:16 |
| Myrtti | tomaw: wiki.ubuntu.com/uds --> wiki.ubuntu.com/udskarmic | 23:17 |
| tomaw | sadly that doesn't seem quickly locatable using google | 23:17 |
| * genii sips | 23:37 | |
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