[00:21] Artichoke200 called the ops in #ubuntu () [00:26] Artichoke200 called the ops in #ubuntu-proxy-users () [00:27] sigh [00:28] Artichoke200: how can we help you? [00:28] I need to get in #ubuntu [00:29] Every time I try to get in, it takes me to the proxy thing [00:29] I'm not using a proxy [00:29] Artichoke200: You were just in #ubuntu, you were abusive. [00:29] .. [00:29] I was, but I can't get back in [00:29] Artichoke200: What did you need the ops for in #ubuntu? [00:30] Everyone was mad at me for giving my opinion, and also, I wanted to know how to get past the proxy thing [00:31] Artichoke200: you were already in #ubuntu at that time [00:31] I know [00:31] But I wanted to know how to get past that next time I come to #ubuntu [00:31] When I leave [00:32] Could someone get me in #ubuntu? [00:36] Artichoke200: Before I do, do you understand that you were being rude and offtopic? [00:36] Yes. [00:36] Artichoke200: and it won't happen again? [00:37] Mhmm [00:37] Can I get you to read the IRC guidelines, so that there's no ambiguity about the rules in #ubuntu [00:37] !guidelines | Artichoke200 [00:37] Artichoke200: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [00:38] Okay [00:38] Will you let me in now? [00:40] Artichoke200: try reconnecting [00:40] Ok [00:40] Thanks [00:41] Artichoke200: If there's nothing else we can help you with today, please part this channel. thanks [00:42] Okay [00:55] @login [00:55] The operation succeeded. [00:56] @btlogin [01:06] hi. may i ask how this sort of behavior http://paste.ubuntu.com/183250/ is compatible with being let back into the channel almost immediately [01:07] LjL: has there been an issue since him being let back in? (I havent looked) [01:08] jussi01: not a big issue, although asking how one becomes an op sounds trollish enough to me. [01:09] LjL: hrm, well lets watch him, and see. we can always re-ban. [01:09] is the current belief among ops that if someone appears to have more or less understood what #ubuntu is about, everything they might have done 5 minutes earlier is forgiven and forgotten, even if they spammed the channel, wasted people's time, etc? [01:09] is there any respect for the time actual non-trolls put into the channel? [01:10] LjL: I banned him, I let him back in, I dealt with that question. I'm not forgetting anything. [01:10] i don't believe he should be entitled to receive support in #ubuntu *in the first place*, after the way he behaved. [01:10] irc is a privilege, not a right. [01:10] LjL: its not forgive and forget, just a second chance to sort himself out. [01:11] jussi01: he was given a second chance twice, since he was given !ot twice, not counting your !language [01:12] LjL: he has come here, been spoken too, and agreed to sort it out. if its a problem again, we can ban him again, then move on. [01:13] jussi01: then look at what he's just saying in #ubuntu please. [01:14] LjL: right, Im watching now, and I assume Flannel is also, [01:14] of course. [01:14] bye. [01:20] Alright, heading home. So, I'm no longer watching him intently ;) [05:08] wait, did artichoke use mibbit the first time? [05:09] he did ok. for a moment there it looked sus. [05:11] thats the only reason it ended up being a ban [05:11] i do fail to believe that 45 seconds is long enough to read the guidelines. [05:11] (and why I removed it even after it was clear he only glanced at the guidelines) [05:12] If he wasn't using mibbit, it would've only been a removal, not a ban. [05:12] meanwhile you've taught him it's ok to pretend to read the guidelines. congrats. [05:12] No, he agreed to follow them, whether or not he actually read them. [05:13] There isn't *that* much to read. [05:13] Flannel, we are not into running con-jobs. i'd much rather people know what they're agreeing to. [05:13] elky: 45 seconds is enough to read the actual guidelines. You don't need to read the paragraphs to understand them. [05:13] But the point still stands, were he not using mibbit, he wouldn't have been banned at all, just removed, and would've been able to come back right away. [05:15] mibbit or not. ban or not. please make sure that when people read the guidelines, they *actually* read the guidelines. if they dont and get taught they can fake it, then they're *never* going to read them. [05:16] they're not going to read them when they have a real ban, since their experience tells them that we're absolute freaking fools. [05:16] i'd really rather us not be considered absolute freaking fools. it makes things *harder*. [05:35] elky: +1 [06:22] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [06:22] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [06:22] nice, no takers. === evilGary is now known as Chipmunk [08:10] * Myrtti nibbles Chipmunk [08:10] mmmm [08:10] * Chipmunk bites Myrtti [08:10] hurry, pull his whiskers! [08:11] * Chipmunk scarpers away [08:13] Hello Flannel [08:20] Hi Bacta [08:20] Hello :) [08:21] Was wondering if we could talk about this ban [08:24] what's up ? [08:27] Pizza :) [08:28] ok, what do you want to talk about, what ban, and what's your take this morning [08:30] My take this morning? [08:30] yes, what do you want to talk about, what's your comment for this morning [08:31] Ok, well Flannel said he would consider removing it on Wednesday [08:32] it's now Friday my time and I haven't had the chance to talk to him about it until now [08:33] I did say that, [08:33] However, at that time I had overlooked a previous discussion you had where you were told to come back "in a month" (from mid May) [08:33] I see [08:34] Flannel: ahhh good you are active, I thought you had skulked off [08:34] ikonia: I didn't see a need to ask the same question you were asking :) I was finishing something up in another window though. [08:35] Bacta: anything else ? [09:10] * jussi01 waves [09:10] Howdy jussi01 [13:10] * Pici yawns [13:11] Pici: dont jinx it, quiet days are good. [13:11] * Myrtti gives Pici a lollipop [13:12] jussi01: Oh, I'm tired, not bored at #u [13:33] 1 [13:38] 2 [13:38] sory [13:38] sorry - typo [13:38] I'm not sure I can forgive you [13:42] oh go on [13:43] Shuuuuuush, Hehe, be verrrrrrrwy quiet, we are hunting moles... [13:43] *yawn* [14:09] @login [14:09] The operation succeeded. [14:09] @btlogin [14:18] @login [14:18] The operation succeeded. [14:18] @btlogin [14:18] Coffee is on me this am [14:22] I need milk for that :-( [14:23] I use half cocoa in every coffee [14:24] FYI from earlier dont make me f****** ddos you * added by me [14:26] Man. I sooo need coffee today too [14:26] Jack_Sparrow: Hold the cocoa please === vorian is now known as they === they is now known as vorian [16:42] should I understand what's going on in -ot? [16:49] I don't know what to say or think [16:58] ditto [17:10] mattwhatever is tiptoeing on it [17:10] Yes. [17:10] and I'm gonna get some proper trousers on (not gonna go shopping with my jammies on) and get some milk and perhaps a wee ickle can of cider or perry [18:30] In #ubuntu, aa3b said: ubottu: that link is not working [18:42] meh [19:38] hm, had this aa3b in my focus this afternoon in #k, laughing at people without reason... [19:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/183829/ [20:07] He was talking about me. [20:08] He claimed I was stalking him because I was in #ubuntu AND #ubuntu-offtopic AND #kubuntu and so was he. [20:08] Pici: er... you're stalking me too! [20:09] You're in #ubuntu-ops as well... [20:09] oh no! [20:09] and... and... stalker! [20:09] OH NOES! [20:09] HIDE [20:09] *gasp* === Chipmunk is now known as Gary [21:21] meatball: you are being blocked from ubuntu because your ident is "fuckoff" [21:22] whoops [21:45] Myrtti: you should have gone shopping with your jim jams on, it'd have been funny [21:46] they did ask for my id at alko anyway [21:46] ie. state monopoly for booze [21:47] haha, in finland? [21:47] yeah [21:47] ah, to be young again [21:48] tomorrow the schools end and graduation parties [21:48] * Myrtti remembers hers ten years ago [21:48] the cake and the bubbly wine \o/ [21:51] kids... [23:14] does someone here know the dates for the '09 ubuntu dev summit? [23:15] ah, nm it seems google + channel topics know [23:15] tomaw: karmic finished today :) [23:16] aye [23:16] using google to search for it seemed to require I know the silly names rather than it was the latest one [23:16] :D [23:17] tomaw: wiki.ubuntu.com/uds --> wiki.ubuntu.com/udskarmic [23:17] sadly that doesn't seem quickly locatable using google [23:37] * genii sips