[01:29] <mrwes> hrmm
[01:30] <BUGabundo> mrwes: ahhhh coufh
[01:31] <mrwes> you're still here?
[01:31] <BUGabundo> aren't I always?
[01:32] <BUGabundo> still trying to clear my mail backlog
[01:32] <BUGabundo> won't have the time during this busy weekend
[01:32] <BUGabundo> so it will grow even moe
[01:32] <BUGabundo> *more
[01:32] <mrwes> busy weekend?
[01:32] <mrwes> you gotta work?
[01:32] <mrwes> or is it a Portuguese holiday?
[01:33] <mrwes> heh
[01:34] <BUGabundo> 500 Children for Kid Day
[01:34] <BUGabundo> amoung other activities, I'll make a FOSS showcase
[01:34] <BUGabundo> with 3 other users
[01:39] <mrwes> uh? 500 kids?
[01:39] <mrwes> what do you do?
[01:41] <BUGabundo> its from a bunch of schools
[01:41] <BUGabundo> I have nothing to do with it
[01:41] <BUGabundo> I just got invited by a LoCoTeam to help out
[01:46] <mrwes> how old are the kids?
[01:48] <BUGabundo> no idea
[01:48] <BUGabundo> eheh
[01:53] <mrwes> hrmm
[01:53] <BUGabundo> foo
[01:53] <mrwes> foophy
[01:53] <BUGabundo> bar
[01:54] <DanaG> baz?
[01:54] <DanaG> =þ
[01:54] <mrwes> foobar?
[01:55] <BUGabundo> droplbar
[01:55] <mrwes> fafafaphooy
[01:56] <BUGabundo> this is sooooooo OT eheeh
[01:59] <mrwes> heh
[02:01] <BUGabundo> me live with webcam http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bugabundo
[02:04] <Pici> !offtopic
[02:26] <ikonia> :q!
[02:26] <ikonia> oops
[02:27] <BUGabundo> love you too ikonia
[02:27] <ikonia> mode +b BUGabundo!*@*!#ubuntu-ops
[02:27] <ikonia> ahh youre active
[02:27] <ikonia> please join #ubuntu-ops
[02:27] <BUGabundo> ikonia: aint I always?
[02:27] <ikonia> I don't know
[06:40] <taggie> where is the appropriate queue to file a bug report for a battery/power issue? In Karmic, when my first battery hits 0% full, instead of swapping to the second battery (like 6.04-9.04), my laptop does an immediate shutdown.
[06:55] <geirha> taggie: Not sure. I'd guess acpi. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi
[10:49]  * ColdWind wonders what's the use of this channel
[10:50]  * Don_Miguel suggests ColdWind read the topic
[10:54] <ColdWind> Don_Miguel: I did, but I wonder anyway since there's so low traffic ;)
[10:55] <TheInfinity> ColdWind: perhaps because its alpha?
[10:56] <TheInfinity> and some ppl (at last) understood that alpha testing means much work?
[10:58] <ColdWind> TheInfinity: I don't follow your logic
[10:58] <TheInfinity> ColdWind: ok - other question - why should somebody install an alpha?
[10:59] <ColdWind> TheInfinity: I guess people here do, right?
[10:59] <Don_Miguel> perhaps to help find the places it breaks ...
[10:59] <ColdWind> yep
[10:59] <Don_Miguel> to help get them fixed
[10:59] <ColdWind> or just beucase they need it
[11:00] <TheInfinity> ColdWind: no.
[11:00] <TheInfinity> ColdWind: you never need an alpha, especially not in this early state
[11:00] <ColdWind> TheInfinity: you're assuming too much
[11:01] <ColdWind> one might need software only in alpha and painful to backport
[11:01] <TheInfinity> ColdWind: ppl who install it by your reason will get much problems when xorg breaks etc
[11:02] <TheInfinity> ColdWind: so you should never install it by this reason - because you will be disappointed. it has a reason why its not for all ppl
[11:02] <ColdWind> man, I *know* what's an alpha
[11:03] <ghindo> Where are all the documents on gobby.ubuntu.com?  I'm not seeing anything.
[11:03] <TheInfinity> well, then wheres the problem? if you want a bleeding edge distro you should use gentoo or arch ;)
[11:04] <ColdWind> TheInfinity: yep, I'm former gentoo dev ;)
[11:04] <Don_Miguel> in this case, it is the OS in Alpha as well as lots of software apps
[11:04] <ColdWind> TheInfinity: anyway, there's no problem
[11:04] <ColdWind> TheInfinity: I just did a comment about the traffic here, that alpha discussion was your thing
[11:05] <TheInfinity> ColdWind: ubuntu is not gentoo, there are not so much freaks who love instable systems ;)
[11:05] <ColdWind> heh, I guess so
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Good Day folks
[14:56] <tgpraveen1> so uds is over which feature are you most excited about?
[14:57] <Twigathy> Shiny shiny boot screen [if I can get it to play nice with NFS root!]
[14:59] <tgpraveen1> Twigathy: plymouth is not coming right so how will there be a shiny boot screen?
[14:59] <Twigathy> ;_;
[15:00] <Twigathy> Okay, I'll have to wait a while longer for that then ;)
[15:03] <Sarvatt> possible i586 arch upgrade, and not sticking to 2.6.30 going by the gobby notes :D
[16:03] <tgpraveen> hey guys I just heard soemtime back that banshee might replace rhthmbox
[16:04] <tgpraveen> in karmic I really dislike the ui of banshee as it has some stupid decisions like the currently playing songs play bar (you know the one which moves forward as the song plays)
[16:04] <tgpraveen> is so short and the album cover is displayed in small size
[16:04] <tgpraveen> can this be changed by us?
[16:05] <tgpraveen> what are you are opinions
[16:12] <ColdWind> tgpraveen: someone could contribute a patch to add an option for big album covers and small titles or something like that
[16:12] <ColdWind> sounds sensible
[16:13] <tgpraveen> ColdWind: yeah someone whould should I file a bug
[16:13] <tgpraveen> about this if yes where should I file it
[16:13] <tgpraveen> launchpad or at banshee site
[16:13] <tgpraveen> anyone know if this was thought about at UDS or banshee devs opinion
[16:18] <ColdWind> tgpraveen: that should be a feature request for banshee
[16:18] <tgpraveen> ColdWind: that Is a ui change so I doubt it would be called a feature request
[16:19] <ColdWind> tgpraveen: it is a feature request if it's optional
[16:19] <ColdWind> tgpraveen: anyway, it falls under the category of request, not bug
[16:20] <tgpraveen> cok
[16:20] <tgpraveen> ColdWind: ok
[17:39] <gourgi> hey guys , i'm testing empathy in karmic.
[17:39] <gourgi> anyone know if MSN file transfers are working?
[17:40] <tgpraveen> gourgi: #telepathy
[17:40] <tgpraveen> and I think NO
[17:40] <gourgi> ok , thanks
[17:42] <gourgi> also telepathy doesn't seem to understand basic irc commands, like /join
[17:42] <gourgi> it seems strange to me that ubuntu devs decided to switch from pidgin
[17:48] <robin0800> gourgi: try konversation
[17:51] <gourgi> robin0800 i don't need an irc client , i'm just testing the new default messaging client and just mention what i dislike compared to pidgin
[17:52] <BluesKaj> pidgin was trying to do too much ..everything to everyone webwise and it's irc option was clunky ...best to stick with apps that are specific to a network
[17:56] <tgpraveen> BluesKaj: while hardcore irc users might want to use something dedicated to irc but still it is nice if everything works in something like empathy/pidgin
[17:58] <tgpraveen> gourgi: these issues are known to the telepathy devs but are unlikely to be fixed by them anytime soon as it aitn a priority for them so maybe
[17:59] <tgpraveen> someone from community can fix them this is hoped now that ubuntu is usint it as default so patches will come
[18:00] <gourgi> i hope so too, i wish i could help but my programming skills are below zero
[18:02] <BluesKaj> tgpraveen, hardcore user ..oh come now ..using an irc client for irc isn't hardcore :)
[18:07] <tgpraveen> BluesKaj: yeah but needing a separate client for irc does. many people who rarely use irc can easily make do with  say pidgin
[18:10] <BluesKaj> tgpraveen, I rarely use any IMs but i still use amsn if need be. I guess "hardcore user" is a matter of personal defintion
[18:10] <tgpraveen> yeah I guess
[20:14] <BluesKaj> I guess k3b is off the radar for a while til the k3b-devs catch up with kde4.3
[20:58] <DanaG> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzI5NQ
[20:59] <DanaG> hmm... no Plymouth.  But hey, KMS for radeon will be there, right?
[20:59] <DanaG> usplash on top of KMS is good enough for me!
[20:59] <DanaG> Oh, and last time I tried Plymouth, even on KMS, it didn't even work.  It just plain loads details.so.
[20:59] <DanaG> i.e. text-mode boot.
[21:02] <pace_t_zulu> anyone have problems with languages in firefox?
[21:22] <ghindo> pace_t_zulu: Nope, what problem are you having?
[21:27] <poseidon> Has anyone here used a NIC with the ralink rt73 chipset?
[21:27] <poseidon> on karmic
[21:27] <pace_t_zulu> language pack is set to en-GB but it should be en-US
[22:08] <melvin> Hi. my latop does not play sound any more on karmic. i think its an alsa problem. is there anybody who can help me?
[22:09] <Kalmi_> melvin, try OSS so that we can be sure it is an ALSA problem
[22:09] <melvin> how can i try this?
[22:11] <melvin> i tryed mplayer with "-ao oss" and "-ao alsa". both options doesnt bring up some sound
[22:11] <Kalmi_> do this before trying: "pulseaudio -k"
[22:13] <melvin> ok. pulse is stopped
[22:15] <Kalmi_> now try mplayer with "-ao oss"
[22:17] <melvin> ok. i think i found something. there seams to be a new pcm device, called PCM Wave2. but it does not apear on any volume control except wmix
[22:18] <melvin> so now i can hear something.
[22:18] <ColdWind> or just uninstall pulseaudio
[22:19] <ColdWind> that works pretty good for me
[22:20] <melvin> is there any chance to save my audio setting? i use fluxbox. on jaunty volume level was saved. on karmic it starts with volume level 0.
[22:20] <melvin> oh realy? how can i remove pulse from ubuntu?
[22:20] <melvin> i don't see any reason for using it
[22:21] <ColdWind> melvin: I don't see it either
[22:21] <ColdWind> just uninstall pulseaudio and libpulse* packages
[22:21] <DanaG> grr, damn Evince.
[22:21] <DanaG> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551005
[22:22] <ColdWind> the downside is that you'll have to uninstall ubuntu-desktop, but it's a metapackage so no harm is done
[22:22] <DanaG> It's enough to make me want to install Adobe's reader.
[22:22] <DanaG> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547164
[22:23] <DanaG> fixed?  yeah, it no longer BLOCKS the other keys....
[22:23] <DanaG> but it DOES still interfere!
[22:23] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/339757
[22:24] <DanaG> No, it's NOT a duplicate.
[22:24] <DanaG> I hate when people mark things as duplicate when they're NOT duplicate.
[22:24] <melvin> ColdWind: do i have to change audio setting s on vlc mplayer and so on?
[22:25] <ColdWind> melvin: nope, it should just work. Although you might want to ensure that ALSA is selected in gnome's multimedia conf
[22:26] <ColdWind> melvin: also, on /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf you might change ao=pulse,alsa for ao=alsa
[22:27] <DanaG> I've added my own "two cents": https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/339757
[22:27] <melvin> ColdWind: thx
[22:27] <ColdWind> melvin: no problem
[22:33] <melvin> ColdWind: It works perfectly. thx al lot
[22:33] <melvin> i could save alsa settings with "#> alsactl store"
[22:36] <ColdWind> melvin: do you have alsa-utils enabled on startup?
[22:36] <ColdWind> iirc, that's what saves/restores alsa settings
[22:37] <melvin> they are installed but not enabled. is this the default setting?
[22:38] <ColdWind> melvin: probably
[22:41] <melvin> huh, i see the script does all the alsactc stuff :-) thx again
[22:41] <ColdWind> np again ;)
[22:43] <melvin> see you later
[22:43] <DanaG> I installed acroread to get rid of that damned fullscreen-hogging evince.
[22:43] <DanaG> I HATE having my document reader steal my whole screen when I try to play or pause my music.
[22:44] <ColdWind> DanaG: congrats
[22:44] <DanaG> the only oddity: the options dialog resizes itself when you scroll through it.  It's especially amusing with wobbly enabled.