[01:29] hrmm [01:30] mrwes: ahhhh coufh [01:31] you're still here? [01:31] aren't I always? [01:32] still trying to clear my mail backlog [01:32] won't have the time during this busy weekend [01:32] so it will grow even moe [01:32] *more [01:32] busy weekend? [01:32] you gotta work? [01:32] or is it a Portuguese holiday? [01:33] heh [01:34] 500 Children for Kid Day [01:34] amoung other activities, I'll make a FOSS showcase [01:34] with 3 other users [01:39] uh? 500 kids? [01:39] what do you do? [01:41] its from a bunch of schools [01:41] I have nothing to do with it [01:41] I just got invited by a LoCoTeam to help out [01:46] how old are the kids? [01:48] no idea [01:48] eheh [01:53] hrmm [01:53] foo [01:53] foophy [01:53] bar [01:54] baz? [01:54] =þ [01:54] foobar? [01:55] droplbar [01:55] fafafaphooy [01:56] this is sooooooo OT eheeh [01:59] heh [02:01] me live with webcam http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bugabundo [02:04] !offtopic [02:04] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [02:26] :q! [02:26] oops [02:27] love you too ikonia [02:27] mode +b BUGabundo!*@*!#ubuntu-ops [02:27] ahh youre active [02:27] please join #ubuntu-ops [02:27] ikonia: aint I always? [02:27] I don't know === ikonia changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Karmic Koala (9.10) discussion channel | Karmic is NOT RELEASED and may break your system if you use it | Schedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule | Please join #ubuntu for all other support questions | Alpha 1 Released: see http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha1 | UDS coverage in #ubuntu-devel-summit. ! This is NOT a generic chat channel [06:40] where is the appropriate queue to file a bug report for a battery/power issue? In Karmic, when my first battery hits 0% full, instead of swapping to the second battery (like 6.04-9.04), my laptop does an immediate shutdown. [06:55] taggie: Not sure. I'd guess acpi. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi === MooKow is now known as LordKow [10:49] * ColdWind wonders what's the use of this channel [10:50] * Don_Miguel suggests ColdWind read the topic [10:54] Don_Miguel: I did, but I wonder anyway since there's so low traffic ;) [10:55] ColdWind: perhaps because its alpha? [10:56] and some ppl (at last) understood that alpha testing means much work? [10:58] TheInfinity: I don't follow your logic [10:58] ColdWind: ok - other question - why should somebody install an alpha? [10:59] TheInfinity: I guess people here do, right? [10:59] perhaps to help find the places it breaks ... [10:59] yep [10:59] to help get them fixed [10:59] or just beucase they need it [11:00] ColdWind: no. [11:00] ColdWind: you never need an alpha, especially not in this early state [11:00] TheInfinity: you're assuming too much [11:01] one might need software only in alpha and painful to backport [11:01] ColdWind: ppl who install it by your reason will get much problems when xorg breaks etc [11:02] ColdWind: so you should never install it by this reason - because you will be disappointed. it has a reason why its not for all ppl [11:02] man, I *know* what's an alpha [11:03] Where are all the documents on gobby.ubuntu.com? I'm not seeing anything. [11:03] well, then wheres the problem? if you want a bleeding edge distro you should use gentoo or arch ;) [11:04] TheInfinity: yep, I'm former gentoo dev ;) [11:04] in this case, it is the OS in Alpha as well as lots of software apps [11:04] TheInfinity: anyway, there's no problem [11:04] TheInfinity: I just did a comment about the traffic here, that alpha discussion was your thing [11:05] ColdWind: ubuntu is not gentoo, there are not so much freaks who love instable systems ;) [11:05] heh, I guess so === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch [14:34] Good Day folks [14:56] so uds is over which feature are you most excited about? [14:57] Shiny shiny boot screen [if I can get it to play nice with NFS root!] [14:59] Twigathy: plymouth is not coming right so how will there be a shiny boot screen? [14:59] ;_; [15:00] Okay, I'll have to wait a while longer for that then ;) === robin0800_ is now known as robin0800 [15:03] possible i586 arch upgrade, and not sticking to 2.6.30 going by the gobby notes :D === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch [16:03] hey guys I just heard soemtime back that banshee might replace rhthmbox [16:04] in karmic I really dislike the ui of banshee as it has some stupid decisions like the currently playing songs play bar (you know the one which moves forward as the song plays) [16:04] is so short and the album cover is displayed in small size [16:04] can this be changed by us? [16:05] what are you are opinions [16:12] tgpraveen: someone could contribute a patch to add an option for big album covers and small titles or something like that [16:12] sounds sensible [16:13] ColdWind: yeah someone whould should I file a bug [16:13] about this if yes where should I file it [16:13] launchpad or at banshee site [16:13] anyone know if this was thought about at UDS or banshee devs opinion [16:18] tgpraveen: that should be a feature request for banshee [16:18] ColdWind: that Is a ui change so I doubt it would be called a feature request [16:19] tgpraveen: it is a feature request if it's optional [16:19] tgpraveen: anyway, it falls under the category of request, not bug [16:20] cok [16:20] ColdWind: ok [17:39] hey guys , i'm testing empathy in karmic. [17:39] anyone know if MSN file transfers are working? [17:40] gourgi: #telepathy [17:40] and I think NO [17:40] ok , thanks [17:42] also telepathy doesn't seem to understand basic irc commands, like /join [17:42] it seems strange to me that ubuntu devs decided to switch from pidgin [17:48] gourgi: try konversation [17:51] robin0800 i don't need an irc client , i'm just testing the new default messaging client and just mention what i dislike compared to pidgin [17:52] pidgin was trying to do too much ..everything to everyone webwise and it's irc option was clunky ...best to stick with apps that are specific to a network [17:56] BluesKaj: while hardcore irc users might want to use something dedicated to irc but still it is nice if everything works in something like empathy/pidgin [17:58] gourgi: these issues are known to the telepathy devs but are unlikely to be fixed by them anytime soon as it aitn a priority for them so maybe [17:59] someone from community can fix them this is hoped now that ubuntu is usint it as default so patches will come [18:00] i hope so too, i wish i could help but my programming skills are below zero [18:02] tgpraveen, hardcore user ..oh come now ..using an irc client for irc isn't hardcore :) [18:07] BluesKaj: yeah but needing a separate client for irc does. many people who rarely use irc can easily make do with say pidgin [18:10] tgpraveen, I rarely use any IMs but i still use amsn if need be. I guess "hardcore user" is a matter of personal defintion [18:10] yeah I guess [20:14] I guess k3b is off the radar for a while til the k3b-devs catch up with kde4.3 [20:58] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzI5NQ [20:59] hmm... no Plymouth. But hey, KMS for radeon will be there, right? [20:59] usplash on top of KMS is good enough for me! [20:59] Oh, and last time I tried Plymouth, even on KMS, it didn't even work. It just plain loads details.so. [20:59] i.e. text-mode boot. [21:02] anyone have problems with languages in firefox? [21:22] pace_t_zulu: Nope, what problem are you having? === genii-2 is now known as genii-yadda [21:27] Has anyone here used a NIC with the ralink rt73 chipset? [21:27] on karmic [21:27] language pack is set to en-GB but it should be en-US === blueyed_ is now known as blueyed [22:08] Hi. my latop does not play sound any more on karmic. i think its an alsa problem. is there anybody who can help me? [22:09] melvin, try OSS so that we can be sure it is an ALSA problem [22:09] how can i try this? [22:11] i tryed mplayer with "-ao oss" and "-ao alsa". both options doesnt bring up some sound [22:11] do this before trying: "pulseaudio -k" [22:13] ok. pulse is stopped [22:15] now try mplayer with "-ao oss" [22:17] ok. i think i found something. there seams to be a new pcm device, called PCM Wave2. but it does not apear on any volume control except wmix [22:18] so now i can hear something. [22:18] or just uninstall pulseaudio [22:19] that works pretty good for me [22:20] is there any chance to save my audio setting? i use fluxbox. on jaunty volume level was saved. on karmic it starts with volume level 0. [22:20] oh realy? how can i remove pulse from ubuntu? [22:20] i don't see any reason for using it [22:21] melvin: I don't see it either [22:21] just uninstall pulseaudio and libpulse* packages [22:21] grr, damn Evince. [22:21] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551005 [22:22] Gnome bug 551005 in general "evince takes over global keyboard shortcuts" [Minor,Resolved: duplicate] [22:22] the downside is that you'll have to uninstall ubuntu-desktop, but it's a metapackage so no harm is done [22:22] It's enough to make me want to install Adobe's reader. [22:22] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547164 [22:22] Gnome bug 547164 in general "Support for media player keys interferes with the music player" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [22:23] fixed? yeah, it no longer BLOCKS the other keys.... [22:23] but it DOES still interfere! [22:23] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/339757 [22:23] Ubuntu bug 339757 in evince "Evince goes full screen when pressing play on keyboard (dup-of: 263779)" [Low,Fix released] [22:23] Ubuntu bug 263779 in evince "Evince hijacks global multimedia keys" [Low,Fix released] [22:24] No, it's NOT a duplicate. [22:24] I hate when people mark things as duplicate when they're NOT duplicate. [22:24] ColdWind: do i have to change audio setting s on vlc mplayer and so on? [22:25] melvin: nope, it should just work. Although you might want to ensure that ALSA is selected in gnome's multimedia conf [22:26] melvin: also, on /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf you might change ao=pulse,alsa for ao=alsa [22:27] I've added my own "two cents": https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/339757 [22:27] Ubuntu bug 339757 in evince "Evince goes full screen when pressing play on keyboard (dup-of: 263779)" [Low,Fix released] [22:27] Ubuntu bug 263779 in evince "Evince hijacks global multimedia keys" [Low,Fix released] [22:27] ColdWind: thx [22:27] melvin: no problem [22:33] ColdWind: It works perfectly. thx al lot [22:33] i could save alsa settings with "#> alsactl store" [22:36] melvin: do you have alsa-utils enabled on startup? [22:36] iirc, that's what saves/restores alsa settings [22:37] they are installed but not enabled. is this the default setting? [22:38] melvin: probably [22:41] huh, i see the script does all the alsactc stuff :-) thx again [22:41] np again ;) [22:43] see you later [22:43] I installed acroread to get rid of that damned fullscreen-hogging evince. [22:43] I HATE having my document reader steal my whole screen when I try to play or pause my music. [22:44] DanaG: congrats [22:44] the only oddity: the options dialog resizes itself when you scroll through it. It's especially amusing with wobbly enabled.