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Caesarslangasek: I found the problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/38175308:43
ubottuUbuntu bug 381753 in dpkg "Handling of conflicting conffiles broken" [Undecided,New]08:43
billisnicewhat is up with jerky youtube in full screen mode? I did not get this with 8.04.08:46
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snadgehow do i force distcc on x86_64 to build with -m32 ?10:26
snadgestuff it, i'll use a 32bit chroot its too annoying to figure it out10:28
quadrisprohi! I tried to upload some pkgs, but I received this: "Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused"10:38
quadrisproanyone can help me?10:39
TheMusoquadrispro: It could be a result of the launchpad downtime, in that they forgot to bring up the ftp server for uploads. You should check with the launchpad folks in #launchpad to be sure.10:41
TheMusoI can't think of anything else that could be the problem.10:41
quadrisprothanks TheMuso10:43
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askandIs it possible that the compiler in Jaunty has changed in a way that does not play nice with my hardware, and therefore I get >10 different apps segfaulting for me every hour compared to Intrepid where that never happened.10:45
askandOr is this far-fetched?10:45
TheMusoaskand: You've checked that your hardware is ok, i.e run an earlier distro version, run memtest, etc?10:47
askandTheMuso: Yep, it was the same hardware as in Intrepid and I ran memtest for 24 hours without errors10:48
askandI find it hard to believe that all these apps suddenly have become extremly crashy since Intrepid.10:48
TheMusoWell I have no idea I'm sorry10:59
askandTheMuso: Ok, neither do I :( Anyone else in here have an idea?11:00
jussi01askand: is it an upgrade or a clean install?11:01
askandjussi01: clean install11:02
jussi01hrm, Ive seen issues from users on upgrades...11:02
jussi01no idea from me either.11:02
askandthnks anyway :)11:03
jussi01oh askand, I assume of course you checked md5 of the iso etc?11:05
askandyep :)11:05
TheMusojussi01: If the md5 was wrong, I think things wouldn't have installed properly/the squashfs filesystem would have thrown errors on the live CD, assumging a live CD was used.11:05
ghindoWhere are all the documents on gobby.ubuntu.com?  I thought a bunch of documents were supposed to be up from UDS, but I'm not seeing anything.11:06
askandghindo: have you installed gobby?11:06
ghindoaskand: Yes.11:06
* TheMuso checks the server.11:07
ghindoI'm probably just overlooking something, but I wanted to double-check11:08
ghindo:p11:08
TheMusoseems fine here11:08
TheMusoI can see many a document on the server.11:08
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stefanlsdupload.ubuntu.com ftp seems to be down. Anyone able to check?12:14
elmostefanlsd: fixed12:36
stefanlsdelmo: thanks!12:58
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raboofwhich package contains the default /etc/group? (dpkg -S and apt-file aren't helping yet)17:21
infinityraboof: base-passwd17:22
ion_grep /etc/group /var/lib/dpkg/info/*inst (and now please read the topic)17:22
infinityion_: Haha.  Nice.  That exposed a "grep that should be a getent" bug over here. :)17:23
ion_infinity: Noticed two myself. :-)17:24
ion_sysklogd and icecc17:24
infinityOh well.  I vaguely recall a "make sysklogd go die" session somewhere in the blur that is the last week.17:26
infinitySo, maybe I'll just ignore it and carry on with my day.17:27
ion_I wasn’t fortunate enough to attend UDS, but i did skim through all the interesting specs (read: most of them) linked from the schedule. :-)17:28
infinityion_: Hey, I was there, and I don't remember what most of them were, so you'e doing better than me. :)17:29
ion_Hehe17:29
infinity(To be fair, I remember most of the ones I participated in, at least)17:29
infinityI suppose this is why we take extensive notes.17:30
infinitySo, when someone says "Hey Adam, you remember that stellar idea you had for the installer turning people's computers into paperweights?", they can back it up with evidence.17:31
ion_:-)17:31
marcosRzthanks for you guys for interfering into X project and turning into shit17:35
marcosRzfuck ubuntu17:35
azeemmarcosRz: this is an development channel17:38
marcosRzubuntu devs interefed on the X project causing them to disable ctrl alt backspace17:38
marcosRzfor the n00bs17:38
azeemwhatever, this is off-topic here17:39
marcosRzhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgCtrlAltBackspace/Discussion17:39
azeemI am sure you are smart enough to patch that back in17:39
marcosRzsee17:39
marcosRz:P Actually the disabled dontzap17:39
marcosRz*they17:39
hyperairplease take this up with the people in #ubuntu-x17:39
hyperairthis is not the right channel.17:39
marcosRzthanks17:39
jussi01marcosRz: and please, watch the language17:40
marcosRzI just so pissed that ubuntu is interferring in all open source projects17:40
marcosRzI dont have anything against ubuntu, only the with the devs that made this interference17:40
infinitymarcosRz: We're not "interfering", we're customizing for our users.17:40
infinitymarcosRz: And please be civil.17:41
marcosRzthis interference propagates on all project that use X17:41
infinitymarcosRz: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html17:43
infinitymarcosRz: And, again, we didn't "interfere" with anything, we didn't force upstream to take the change (like we could), the hostility is not needed.17:43
marcosRzinfinity, actually the current X has disabled the dontzap trick, thats why I'm pissed17:43
marcosRzI'm running Arch and they disabled the dontzap feature, so we cant restart X by ctrl-alt-bkspce17:44
marcosRzinfinity, http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=73064&p=217:45
azeemmarcosRz: so ask the arch guys to fix this17:45
azeemthis is off-topic here17:45
ion_What’s wrong with exiting X the normal way anyway? :-P17:45
marcosRzazeem, I know we already did it a patch, but I'm pissed that this utility feature will not be available by default into most linux distros, and this is due to protect the newbies17:45
azeemmarcosRz: I think you've been told enough times now that this is off-topic17:46
marcosRzok17:46
cockroachhi. no idea whether this is the right place to ask, but i'll try: i am maintaining a debian package (not in debian yet) using cdbs with pysupport. this works fine on debian but apparently not on ubuntu (a user just sent me this: http://yfrog.com/1566939906p) - any idea?18:35
cockroach(packaging files can be found at http://episoder.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/episoder/debian/)18:35
pochucockroach: did he tried to install the Debian package directly, without rebuilding it in an Ubuntu environment?18:37
cockroachpochu: yes, afaik18:38
pochuit could be that it was built using a recent pysupport version in Debian, that is not compatible with his pysupport18:38
pochubut that's just a guess18:38
cockroachinteresting point, didn't think of that. it was built on debian testing, i'll have a look at the changelog...18:39
azeemcockroach: Debian packages should not be installed on Ubuntu and vice-versa, really18:40
cockroachazeem: i figured a python package should work since it's not compiled & stuff :)18:40
cockroachazeem: but i guess i'll have to create an ubuntu pbuilder environment and create *proper* ubuntu package...18:41
cockroach(*a* proper package, even)18:41
pochudoes your package depend on ${python:Depends} ?18:43
cockroachpochu: no, only ${misc:Depends} (and some hard-coded ones)18:44
pochuso that's your bug18:44
pochusee man dh_pysupport18:44
cockroachpochu: oh, indeed. thanks!18:45
pochuanyway, it's not a good idea to install packages built on different environments18:45
pochuyw18:45
pochubtw, if you want to get your package in Debian, there's #debian-python on OFTC (when it's in Debian it will reach Ubuntu too)18:46
cockroachpochu: ah nice, i'll talk to them. i sort of doubt that anyone is going to sponsor this, but asking can't hurt :)18:49
ion_Google Wave seems like an awesome tool. You know how people edit stuff in Gobby at UDS and then manually move the content to wiki.ubuntu.com? With Wave, wiki.ubuntu.com and the collaborative realtime editing application could be the same tool.20:31
ghindoIt's not even out yet though, right?20:33
ion_Indeed. I only watched the demo.20:36
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htrejhhi22:18
htrejhin my control file, when i use a different name for package it creates a deb with missing files (except NEWS...), but not when package and source are identical, why?22:19
htrejhanyone?22:25
LaserJockhtrejh: do you have a debian/install file?22:29
htrejhLaserJock: no23:08
LaserJockhtrejh: you might want to create a <binary name>.install file23:08
htrejhempty file?23:09
htrejhi dont understand23:10
azeemwhy empty?23:11
htrejhwhat must it contain?23:11
azeemsee the dh_install manpage23:11
azeembasically a list of files you want to include in your package, and which is not otherwise included (e.g. via NEWS via dh_installdocs)23:11
htrejhcan you generate the list?23:19

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