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=== Shane_Fagan1 is now known as Shane_Fagan
bencrisfordIm working on a bug in edubuntu-docs10:01
bencrisfordis it still apt-get source edubuntu-docs, or is it different for documentation?10:02
mdkebencrisford: that works, but the more reliable way is to get the bzr branch10:04
bencrisfordok, and after its fixed do i upload it to the bug?10:04
bencrisfordor is it different for docs?10:04
bencrisfordmdke: ^10:04
bencrisford:)10:04
mdkebencrisford: yes, uploading a patch to the bug is th best way10:05
bencrisfordas a diff.gz?10:05
mdkeno need to archive it10:05
bencrisfordjust diff? :)10:06
mdkeunless it's huge10:06
bencrisfordwont be10:06
bencrisfordim replacing one word with another10:06
mdkeright10:06
bencrisfordthe easiest bug there is :)10:06
bencrisfordwhich is why im doing it, to teach myself packaging :)10:06
mdkeit's a good way to practice making patches10:07
bencrisfordcould i fix it like this mdke:10:08
bencrisfordsed -i 's/Illustrator/InDesign/g' path/to/appropriate/doc?10:08
mdkebencrisford: probably best to edit the file manually so that you can see the context for any words that you are changing10:13
bencrisfordok...  ill give it a go ;), thanks mdke :)10:14
bencrisfordmdke: Whats the bzr branch called?10:17
bencrisfordfor edubuntu-docs10:17
mdkebencrisford: see if you can get the info from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/Repository10:22
bencrisfordok, i was looking for that but didnt fint it :)10:23
bencrisfordty10:23
bencrisfordmdke: I'm having trouble :'(, could I not just do apt-get source?10:25
mdkebencrisford: no, that's not a good idea for any packages which use bzr for their sources10:25
bencrisfordoh10:26
mdkebencrisford: also, if you are looking to learn how to contribute to documentation, getting our documents is basically the first thing you need to know how to do :)10:26
bencrisfordi know for ubuntu10:27
bencrisfordi did it for that with no problems10:27
bencrisfordthis is the error i got:10:27
bencrisfordben@ben-laptop:~/edubuntu_bzr$ bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/edubuntu-jaunty10:27
bencrisfordPermission denied (publickey).10:27
bencrisfordbzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions10:27
mdkeit's the same process for edubuntu10:27
mdkeok, you need to tell bzr your Launchpad username I think10:28
mdkedo "bzr launchpad-login *your_username_here*"10:28
bencrisfordok10:28
mdkewithout the asterisks10:28
bencrisfordsame error :/10:29
bencrisforddo i need my lp password?10:29
mdkeno, it authenticates using your ssh key10:29
mdkeI guess you don't have your ssh key10:29
bencrisfordi do10:29
bencrisfordits on my lp profile10:29
mdkeand is it on the computer you are using?10:30
bencrisfordyeah10:30
bencrisfordwell, i got it from this computer10:30
bencrisfordi dont know if its "on" it10:30
bencrisfordshould it be in .bashrc?10:30
mdkeno, in ~/.ssh10:30
mdke(which is a directory)10:32
bencrisfordHost *launchpad.net10:32
bencrisfordUser USERNAME10:32
bencrisfordthats the contents of my config file10:32
bencrisfordshould i change it at all :/?10:32
mdkeI don't know what file you are talking about10:32
bencrisford~/.ssh/config10:33
bencrisfordmdke: ^10:33
mdkeI don't have such a file10:33
mdkebut what happens if you do "cat ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub"10:33
bencrisfordcat: /home/ben/.ssh/id_dsa.pub: No such file or directory10:34
bencrisfordi think i gave my id_dsa a different name10:34
mdkehmm10:34
mdkels ~/.ssh10:34
bencrisfordben@ben-laptop:~$ ls ~/.ssh10:35
bencrisfordconfig  known_hosts10:35
mdkeok, your ssh key isn't there10:36
mdkeso it can't authenticate with Launchpad10:36
bencrisfordthats weird :/10:36
bencrisfordmaybe its somewhere else10:36
mdkeyou can get the branch over http instead of ssh as a workaround, but that's worth sorting out because ssh keys are very useful10:38
mdkeI have to go now, back later10:38
bencrisfordok, bye10:38
bencrisford1I changed the wording of a paragraph in School Advocacy (edubuntu-docs) to fix a bug and now the motu recommend I upload it to my PPA and make a merge proposal12:47
bencrisford1but I don't know which files to upload12:47
bencrisford1just the .diff?  the .dsc?  .tar.gz?12:48
bencrisford1=S12:48
bencrisford1or shall I just upload it as a patch to the bug?12:48
bencrisford1(the diff ^)12:48
bencrisford1mdke: Back yet?13:41
bencrisford1:(13:41
=== tim__sharitt is now known as tim_sharitt
LaserJockanybody from ~ubuntu-core-doc over here?19:56
Shane_FaganWe all write the core doc. You must mean a person with commit privileges ?20:00
Shane_FaganLaserJock: what do you need help with?20:01
LaserJockyeah, I need somebody with bzr commit access20:01
LaserJockI need the edubuntu bzr branch branched for Karmic20:01
mdkeLaserJock: will do21:03
LaserJockmdke: unfortunately, with the new job I got, etc. I'm not going to be much involved with Edubuntu21:03
LaserJockmdke: sbalneav is the main doc guy with access right now for Edubuntu21:04
mdkeLaserJock: congrats21:04
LaserJockbut with the revitalization effort that's going on there seems to be a number of people interested in doc work21:04
mdkeexcellent21:05
mdkeedubuntu-karmic pushed up21:05
LaserJockthanks21:05
mdkewe'll be shortly moving it to an edubuntu-docs project, I don't know if you've followed that discussion21:06
mdkebut obviously we'll update the wiki documentation for the project when that happens21:06
LaserJockohh, is that moving forward?21:06
mdkeyeah, just waiting on LP admins at the moment21:06
mdkewhat's the new job?21:08
LaserJockit's postdoc in the Space Vehicles Directorate at the Air Force Research Laboratory in Boston21:08
LaserJockchemistry stuff dealing with rocket/shuttle/satellite engines21:09
mdkeholy cow21:09
mdkedouble congrats21:09
LaserJockI don't know if it really counts as rocket science21:10
LaserJockbut it's a lot closer than I thought I'd ever get ;-)21:10
mdkesure it does :)21:10
mdkepleased to be moving?21:10
Rocket2DMnrocket science \o/21:11
LaserJockmdke: yes and no21:11
LaserJockmdke: it's gonna cost a lot to move and be a big hassle21:11
LaserJockmdke: but Boston sounds awesome21:11
Rocket2DMnLaserJock, im in the middle of moving right now, i hear ya21:12
mdkeyeah, I guess it's a long way to take all your stuff21:12
LaserJock3k miles21:14
LaserJockpretty much literally across the US21:15
Rocket2DMnI did the same thing last summer LaserJock , went from los angeles to near philadelphia21:15
LaserJockphew21:15
Rocket2DMnyeah, now im moving again, shorter distance tho, a few hours away to NJ21:16
LaserJockmy biggest problems is I own a house here, have pets and tons of junk, and 2 cars21:16
Rocket2DMnyeah, that makes life a bit more difficult21:16
mdkeare you going to sell it?21:16
LaserJocknot sure21:16
mdkeguess it's not a great time21:16
LaserJockpretty much the worst21:16
Rocket2DMnwhere exactly are you now LaserJock ?21:16
* mdke nods21:16
LaserJockif we can rent it out for a year or something maybe we could sell then21:16
LaserJockRocket2DMn: Reno21:16
Rocket2DMncool21:17
LaserJocklike the 2nd or 3rd works housing market21:17
LaserJock*worst21:17
LaserJockNevada is teh worst!21:17
LaserJockmy house lost almost 1/2 of it's value over the last year21:19
Rocket2DMn:(21:19
mdkewoah21:20
LaserJockluckily I bought it before then21:20
mdkerenting is probably worth it, as long as the numbers all work21:21
mdkeI'm sure things will improve gradually21:21
LaserJockyeah21:21
LaserJockI just don't want it to get trashed in the mean time21:21
LaserJockI'd have to hire a manager21:21
LaserJockanyway21:22
LaserJockbut yeah, having a job is nice :-)21:22
LaserJockI didn't think I'd find one21:22
Rocket2DMn+121:22
LaserJockbut I have 2 unofficial offers right now21:22
mdkevery cool21:23
LaserJockafter the 1st of the year the chemistry jobs totally dried up21:24
LaserJockbut luckily my area of chemistry is a bit less competitive I think21:24
LaserJockand the Air Force job required US citizenship which helps me out a lot21:24
mdkeplus, you're good :)21:26
LaserJockheh21:27
LaserJockthe bad part of the Air Force job is that they require using Windows on all computers21:27
LaserJockit's terrible in science that we're reduced to using such inferior software21:27
Rocket2DMnwell, unfortunately it is the standard rather than the exception21:28
mdkewe use Windows on all computers too21:28
LaserJockdoing science work in Windows is pretty painful21:29
LaserJockI'm so spoiled having any programming and data analysis tools right at my fingertips21:29
mdkewell, you'll have to convert them then21:33
bencrisfordmdke: ping21:56
mdkebencrisford: (In case I'm not around at the moment, please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I get back)21:56
bencrisfordmdke: I updated my .diff on Bug #210771 :)21:57
ubot4Launchpad bug 210771 in edubuntu-docs "School advocacy wrongly speaks about Scribus being Illustrator-like" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21077121:57
bencrisfordits more conventional now I think :), and a little better with more included21:57
mdkebencrisford: good stuff, thanks22:57
bencrisford:)23:15
bencrisfordI'm doing the documentation for spux project, I coded it in docbook, what would the contents of the script to run it be?23:36
bencrisfordas simple as?:23:36
bencrisfordyelp /path/to/docs23:36
bencrisford?23:36

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