[10:01] <bencrisford> Im working on a bug in edubuntu-docs
[10:02] <bencrisford> is it still apt-get source edubuntu-docs, or is it different for documentation?
[10:04] <mdke> bencrisford: that works, but the more reliable way is to get the bzr branch
[10:04] <bencrisford> ok, and after its fixed do i upload it to the bug?
[10:04] <bencrisford> or is it different for docs?
[10:04] <bencrisford> mdke: ^
[10:04] <bencrisford> :)
[10:05] <mdke> bencrisford: yes, uploading a patch to the bug is th best way
[10:05] <bencrisford> as a diff.gz?
[10:05] <mdke> no need to archive it
[10:06] <bencrisford> just diff? :)
[10:06] <mdke> unless it's huge
[10:06] <bencrisford> wont be
[10:06] <bencrisford> im replacing one word with another
[10:06] <mdke> right
[10:06] <bencrisford> the easiest bug there is :)
[10:06] <bencrisford> which is why im doing it, to teach myself packaging :)
[10:07] <mdke> it's a good way to practice making patches
[10:08] <bencrisford> could i fix it like this mdke:
[10:08] <bencrisford> sed -i 's/Illustrator/InDesign/g' path/to/appropriate/doc?
[10:13] <mdke> bencrisford: probably best to edit the file manually so that you can see the context for any words that you are changing
[10:14] <bencrisford> ok...  ill give it a go ;), thanks mdke :)
[10:17] <bencrisford> mdke: Whats the bzr branch called?
[10:17] <bencrisford> for edubuntu-docs
[10:22] <mdke> bencrisford: see if you can get the info from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/Repository
[10:23] <bencrisford> ok, i was looking for that but didnt fint it :)
[10:23] <bencrisford> ty
[10:25] <bencrisford> mdke: I'm having trouble :'(, could I not just do apt-get source?
[10:25] <mdke> bencrisford: no, that's not a good idea for any packages which use bzr for their sources
[10:26] <bencrisford> oh
[10:26] <mdke> bencrisford: also, if you are looking to learn how to contribute to documentation, getting our documents is basically the first thing you need to know how to do :)
[10:27] <bencrisford> i know for ubuntu
[10:27] <bencrisford> i did it for that with no problems
[10:27] <bencrisford> this is the error i got:
[10:27] <bencrisford> ben@ben-laptop:~/edubuntu_bzr$ bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/edubuntu-jaunty
[10:27] <bencrisford> Permission denied (publickey).
[10:27] <bencrisford> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions
[10:27] <mdke> it's the same process for edubuntu
[10:28] <mdke> ok, you need to tell bzr your Launchpad username I think
[10:28] <mdke> do "bzr launchpad-login *your_username_here*"
[10:28] <bencrisford> ok
[10:28] <mdke> without the asterisks
[10:29] <bencrisford> same error :/
[10:29] <bencrisford> do i need my lp password?
[10:29] <mdke> no, it authenticates using your ssh key
[10:29] <mdke> I guess you don't have your ssh key
[10:29] <bencrisford> i do
[10:29] <bencrisford> its on my lp profile
[10:30] <mdke> and is it on the computer you are using?
[10:30] <bencrisford> yeah
[10:30] <bencrisford> well, i got it from this computer
[10:30] <bencrisford> i dont know if its "on" it
[10:30] <bencrisford> should it be in .bashrc?
[10:30] <mdke> no, in ~/.ssh
[10:32] <mdke> (which is a directory)
[10:32] <bencrisford> Host *launchpad.net
[10:32] <bencrisford> User USERNAME
[10:32] <bencrisford> thats the contents of my config file
[10:32] <bencrisford> should i change it at all :/?
[10:32] <mdke> I don't know what file you are talking about
[10:33] <bencrisford> ~/.ssh/config
[10:33] <bencrisford> mdke: ^
[10:33] <mdke> I don't have such a file
[10:33] <mdke> but what happens if you do "cat ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub"
[10:34] <bencrisford> cat: /home/ben/.ssh/id_dsa.pub: No such file or directory
[10:34] <bencrisford> i think i gave my id_dsa a different name
[10:34] <mdke> hmm
[10:34] <mdke> ls ~/.ssh
[10:35] <bencrisford> ben@ben-laptop:~$ ls ~/.ssh
[10:35] <bencrisford> config  known_hosts
[10:36] <mdke> ok, your ssh key isn't there
[10:36] <mdke> so it can't authenticate with Launchpad
[10:36] <bencrisford> thats weird :/
[10:36] <bencrisford> maybe its somewhere else
[10:38] <mdke> you can get the branch over http instead of ssh as a workaround, but that's worth sorting out because ssh keys are very useful
[10:38] <mdke> I have to go now, back later
[10:38] <bencrisford> ok, bye
[12:47] <bencrisford1> I changed the wording of a paragraph in School Advocacy (edubuntu-docs) to fix a bug and now the motu recommend I upload it to my PPA and make a merge proposal
[12:47] <bencrisford1> but I don't know which files to upload
[12:48] <bencrisford1> just the .diff?  the .dsc?  .tar.gz?
[12:48] <bencrisford1> =S
[12:48] <bencrisford1> or shall I just upload it as a patch to the bug?
[12:48] <bencrisford1> (the diff ^)
[13:41] <bencrisford1> mdke: Back yet?
[13:41] <bencrisford1> :(
[19:56] <LaserJock> anybody from ~ubuntu-core-doc over here?
[20:00] <Shane_Fagan> We all write the core doc. You must mean a person with commit privileges ?
[20:01] <Shane_Fagan> LaserJock: what do you need help with?
[20:01] <LaserJock> yeah, I need somebody with bzr commit access
[20:01] <LaserJock> I need the edubuntu bzr branch branched for Karmic
[21:03] <mdke> LaserJock: will do
[21:03] <LaserJock> mdke: unfortunately, with the new job I got, etc. I'm not going to be much involved with Edubuntu
[21:04] <LaserJock> mdke: sbalneav is the main doc guy with access right now for Edubuntu
[21:04] <mdke> LaserJock: congrats
[21:04] <LaserJock> but with the revitalization effort that's going on there seems to be a number of people interested in doc work
[21:05] <mdke> excellent
[21:05] <mdke> edubuntu-karmic pushed up
[21:05] <LaserJock> thanks
[21:06] <mdke> we'll be shortly moving it to an edubuntu-docs project, I don't know if you've followed that discussion
[21:06] <mdke> but obviously we'll update the wiki documentation for the project when that happens
[21:06] <LaserJock> ohh, is that moving forward?
[21:06] <mdke> yeah, just waiting on LP admins at the moment
[21:08] <mdke> what's the new job?
[21:08] <LaserJock> it's postdoc in the Space Vehicles Directorate at the Air Force Research Laboratory in Boston
[21:09] <LaserJock> chemistry stuff dealing with rocket/shuttle/satellite engines
[21:09] <mdke> holy cow
[21:09] <mdke> double congrats
[21:10] <LaserJock> I don't know if it really counts as rocket science
[21:10] <LaserJock> but it's a lot closer than I thought I'd ever get ;-)
[21:10] <mdke> sure it does :)
[21:10] <mdke> pleased to be moving?
[21:11] <Rocket2DMn> rocket science \o/
[21:11] <LaserJock> mdke: yes and no
[21:11] <LaserJock> mdke: it's gonna cost a lot to move and be a big hassle
[21:11] <LaserJock> mdke: but Boston sounds awesome
[21:12] <Rocket2DMn> LaserJock, im in the middle of moving right now, i hear ya
[21:12] <mdke> yeah, I guess it's a long way to take all your stuff
[21:14] <LaserJock> 3k miles
[21:15] <LaserJock> pretty much literally across the US
[21:15] <Rocket2DMn> I did the same thing last summer LaserJock , went from los angeles to near philadelphia
[21:15] <LaserJock> phew
[21:16] <Rocket2DMn> yeah, now im moving again, shorter distance tho, a few hours away to NJ
[21:16] <LaserJock> my biggest problems is I own a house here, have pets and tons of junk, and 2 cars
[21:16] <Rocket2DMn> yeah, that makes life a bit more difficult
[21:16] <mdke> are you going to sell it?
[21:16] <LaserJock> not sure
[21:16] <mdke> guess it's not a great time
[21:16] <LaserJock> pretty much the worst
[21:16] <Rocket2DMn> where exactly are you now LaserJock ?
[21:16]  * mdke nods
[21:16] <LaserJock> if we can rent it out for a year or something maybe we could sell then
[21:16] <LaserJock> Rocket2DMn: Reno
[21:17] <Rocket2DMn> cool
[21:17] <LaserJock> like the 2nd or 3rd works housing market
[21:17] <LaserJock> *worst
[21:17] <LaserJock> Nevada is teh worst!
[21:19] <LaserJock> my house lost almost 1/2 of it's value over the last year
[21:19] <Rocket2DMn> :(
[21:20] <mdke> woah
[21:20] <LaserJock> luckily I bought it before then
[21:21] <mdke> renting is probably worth it, as long as the numbers all work
[21:21] <mdke> I'm sure things will improve gradually
[21:21] <LaserJock> yeah
[21:21] <LaserJock> I just don't want it to get trashed in the mean time
[21:21] <LaserJock> I'd have to hire a manager
[21:22] <LaserJock> anyway
[21:22] <LaserJock> but yeah, having a job is nice :-)
[21:22] <LaserJock> I didn't think I'd find one
[21:22] <Rocket2DMn> +1
[21:22] <LaserJock> but I have 2 unofficial offers right now
[21:23] <mdke> very cool
[21:24] <LaserJock> after the 1st of the year the chemistry jobs totally dried up
[21:24] <LaserJock> but luckily my area of chemistry is a bit less competitive I think
[21:24] <LaserJock> and the Air Force job required US citizenship which helps me out a lot
[21:26] <mdke> plus, you're good :)
[21:27] <LaserJock> heh
[21:27] <LaserJock> the bad part of the Air Force job is that they require using Windows on all computers
[21:27] <LaserJock> it's terrible in science that we're reduced to using such inferior software
[21:28] <Rocket2DMn> well, unfortunately it is the standard rather than the exception
[21:28] <mdke> we use Windows on all computers too
[21:29] <LaserJock> doing science work in Windows is pretty painful
[21:29] <LaserJock> I'm so spoiled having any programming and data analysis tools right at my fingertips
[21:33] <mdke> well, you'll have to convert them then
[21:56] <bencrisford> mdke: ping
[21:56] <mdke> bencrisford: (In case I'm not around at the moment, please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I get back)
[21:57] <bencrisford> mdke: I updated my .diff on Bug #210771 :)
[21:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 210771 in edubuntu-docs "School advocacy wrongly speaks about Scribus being Illustrator-like" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210771
[21:57] <bencrisford> its more conventional now I think :), and a little better with more included
[22:57] <mdke> bencrisford: good stuff, thanks
[23:15] <bencrisford> :)
[23:36] <bencrisford> I'm doing the documentation for spux project, I coded it in docbook, what would the contents of the script to run it be?
[23:36] <bencrisford> as simple as?:
[23:36] <bencrisford> yelp /path/to/docs
[23:36] <bencrisford> ?