/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/05/30/#ubuntu-ops.txt

PiciI dont understand why people continue to treat #ubuntu+1 like a chat channel and get pissy when we ask them to stop, but never join -offtopic?02:05
Picis/?/./02:06
ikoniabugabundo again02:24
ikonia?02:24
ikoniait is02:24
ikoniafine, I'm muting him02:24
ikoniahe's been warned enough02:24
ikoniaand he "knew" it was offtopic02:24
ikoniaBUGabundo: thanks for joining02:27
BUGabundonp ikonia02:27
BUGabundolink again?02:27
BUGabundoyeah I should know better02:27
BUGabundosorry02:28
ikoniait's beyond that now02:28
ikoniahow many times have you been asked02:28
ikoniaI've lost count02:28
ikoniayou KNOW you're doing it, that's what's starting to become insulting 02:28
BUGabundono it not02:28
ikoniait is02:28
BUGabundoI don't do it to make ppl andry02:28
ikoniayou keep been given more time to stop it02:28
ikoniaand you keep throwing it back by doing it and know you're doing it02:29
BUGabundoI'm just talking to some other friends on the #02:29
ikoniait's not the right channel - and you know it02:29
BUGabundobut its where my bets buds are02:29
ikoniait doesn't matter02:29
BUGabundobut you are right02:29
BUGabundono the smarter thing to do02:29
ikoniaI know I'm right - you know you're right, you've been asked to stop, you've been told to stop ?02:29
ikoniawhat's next? 02:29
PiciIts not a discussion channel. You're free to create your own channel or join #ubuntu-offtopic02:29
BUGabundobut it has been so calm this week due to uds02:30
ikoniait doesn't matter02:30
ikoniaand you've been told that02:30
BUGabundoI'm not the only one to ask to relax a bit in there02:30
ikoniait doesn't matter02:30
ikoniathis has been made clear to you many times before02:30
ikoniaI'm struggling to know how to get this through to you ?02:31
BUGabundome too02:31
BUGabundobelieve me02:31
ikoniaI'm more frustrated that you are now an ubuntu member and acting under an ubuntu cloak yet constantly disrespecting the rules02:32
BUGabundoI have on intention on bending the rules02:32
ikoniayet you keep doing it time after time02:32
BUGabundoI just tend to go OT easy enough02:32
BUGabundobut was always I try to be better02:32
ikoniaI think you should take a break from the channel to be honest02:32
ikoniayou don't seem to respond to other requests, 02:32
BUGabundoI don't but you have the power over that02:32
BUGabundosure I do...02:33
BUGabundoI even call other ppl attention to OT02:33
ikoniayou don't - or this conversation would not happen 02:33
BUGabundowhen they start it02:33
BUGabundoand many time I take it other place02:33
ikoniamost of the time you don't02:33
BUGabundonever counted them02:34
ikoniaI suggest you take a week out of the channel to think about how you can best control yourself02:34
BUGabundoyou should know I try to be a nice guy02:34
BUGabundoI just like to talk...02:34
ikoniaeveryone slips up - so no-one is picking up on that, but you do it persistantly02:34
BUGabundobut again that's not the place for it02:34
BUGabundoa week??02:34
BUGabundoafter UDS?02:34
ikoniayes02:34
ikoniayes02:34
BUGabundothat's just mean to me02:34
ikoniano02:34
ikoniathats taking time to consider how you can stop persistantly flaunting the rules of the channel02:35
BUGabundoplease don't02:35
BUGabundoI can be better02:35
ikoniayou've been given requests, then warnings, so now I feel time to reflect is the best approach 02:35
BUGabundocan't I be put on trial basis, after this call for attention ?02:36
ikoniayou've been on multiple trial situations02:36
ikoniayou keep doing it - hence why you're here02:36
ikoniaagain02:36
BUGabundoand so many other users there02:36
ikoniaso ?02:36
BUGabundoits not like its just me02:36
ikoniayou're responsible for your own behaviour02:36
BUGabundoI know02:36
ikoniano - it's not just you, but others tend to stop when prompted02:36
BUGabundoso do I02:37
ikoniano02:37
ikoniayou stop for a short period and start up - and we have the conversation again 02:37
ikoniaso lets take a week out of the channel to consider how you can better control yourself and learn where the other chat channels are02:37
ikoniaI am genuinly sorry to push this like this as I do appreciate how keen you are, but I feel this is the only way to get your attention to control yourself02:38
ikoniadrop back in a week's time, and we'll chat about this again futher 02:39
BUGabundoI don't... but I can show proof of that02:39
ikoniathis is not up for debate as I can show proof that you have been persistantly warned by multiple operators and are still doing it02:39
BUGabundobye02:42
ikoniaBUGabundo: thanks for joining when requested, it's appreciated, and I should have checked you where active before forwarding you here02:42
BUGabundonp02:42
BUGabundoI are to accostum to ppl being remoted connect02:42
ikoniaok, thank you02:42
BUGabundoI on the other hand am here, when my nick is there02:42
BUGabundoonce again02:43
BUGabundosee you in a few (long) days02:43
ikoniayup02:43
BUGabundoif by any change decide to shorten it, let me know02:43
ikoniaok02:43
* BUGabundo removing autojoin02:43
ikoniayou can leave the autojoin in place - it's a ban not a forward so won't cause any problem02:44
ikonia@mark #ubuntu+1 BUGabundo again offtopic - run out of warnings banned for a week to think it over anyone is free to remove sooner if they feel he's grasped that it's not his chat channel02:44
ubottuThe operation succeeded.02:44
elkyhe really doesnt know how to listen to other people, does he...05:32
* genii checks to see if more coffee needs to be made06:04
* genii sips07:03
ubottuIn #ubuntu, RKR said: ubottu: My APTonCD is not working please help me08:25
jussi01mrgh... head hurts...08:50
Myrttitoo much sports drink?08:50
Myrtti:-D08:50
jussi01Myrtti: yeah...08:50
MyrttiJUSSI CHEER UP! SUN SHINES AND LIFE IS MERRY!08:51
jussi01sports drink *g*08:51
jussi01shush you08:51
* Myrtti toots a horn by jussi01s ear08:51
Myrtti*TOOOOOOOT*08:51
jussi01even thinking about it hurts...08:51
MyrttiI knew it ^____^08:51
* Myrtti gives jussi01 a pint of coffee and another of bilberry soup and few painkillers08:52
MyrttiI should reinstall my other laptop08:52
Myrttithing is being silly on me08:52
jussi01hrm, that was short hangover.... *hugs* hangover cure :)09:25
Myrttibilberry soup ♥ 09:25
ubottuElPavo called the ops in #ubuntu ()09:44
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)09:53
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)09:53
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)09:53
MyrttiI want to slap snowkitty12:27
bazhangyeap12:27
jussi01yay for annoying guy in -ot...13:09
bazhangand in #u13:09
bazhang<Batch> I'm using Linux Mint 6, ubuntu/debian variant :>13:16
jussi01@bansearch X8SanguineRoseX13:16
ubottuNo matches found for x8sanguinerosex!n=sanguine@c-71-234-0-149.hsd1.ct.comcast.net in any channel13:16
bazhangperfect storm of annoyingness in -ot now13:17
Myrtti@bansearch Batch 13:41
ubottuMatch: *!*@114.78.29.61 by bazhang in #ubuntu on May 30 2009 12:40:46 (ID: 14083)13:41
ubottuMatch: batch!n=ryan@114.78.29.61 by bazhang in #ubuntu-offtopic on May 30 2009 12:25:14 (ID: 14080)13:41
Myrtti"oops"13:41
bazhangnasty comment before parting in #u13:41
bazhangor being parted 13:41
elkyanother ryan. why cant we get *normal* ryans?13:43
Myrttithe same reason we can't get *normal* Aussies... *hides*13:44
elkyyeah, but we're a *better* kind of not normal.13:44
* Myrtti counts the bans on .au tld13:44
* elky *loves* getting the -ot crowd to extend bans for her :D13:47
BatchNIGGERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS13:52
BatchWAT13:52
Myrttifun!13:52
elkysomeone's ban just got extended to a month.13:52
Myrtti"oops"13:52
elkyhow do i mark again?13:52
bazhangdidnt plan to remove in 24 hrs from #ubuntu at any rate13:53
Myrtti(meow) <nick> markitymark13:53
bazhanguse @mark channel nick13:53
Myrttioops13:53
Myrtti(meow)mark <channel> <nick> markitymark13:53
bazhangerr @mark #channel nick13:53
elky@mark #ubuntu-ops Batch Do not lift bans for this twit for at least 28 days from now.13:54
ubottuThe operation succeeded.13:54
* elky notes the aprilhare entries...13:55
Batchohai guise.13:56
bazhanghi Batch 13:56
BatchSup?13:56
Myrttinothing much, just extended your ban a bit13:56
Myrttiand you?13:56
Batchi herd u liek to b& so i put a B& in your B& :<13:56
bazhang?13:56
BatchISeriously though.13:56
elkyBatch, your ban now lasts a whole month. please return then, and *not* before.13:57
BatchWOuld like to protest the ban13:57
bazhangfor -ot13:57
BatchReally, Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?13:57
elkyspeak english please.13:57
bazhangas you are on mint, no reason to let you back in #ubuntu13:58
BatchI had legitimate questions.13:58
BatchI didn't get answered13:58
BatchSo i got bored etc13:58
Batch:>13:58
bazhangthat and the incessant offtopic/trolling13:58
BatchI didn't troll :<13:58
Batch0/10 liek liek13:58
elkyBatch, please go away and return in a month's time. Not before.13:58
BatchBUT13:58
BatchBUT13:58
BatchTBUT13:58
BatchHas anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?13:59
elkyi have no idea what he's saying...13:59
bazhanghe is just a time wasting troll.13:59
elkyi figured. i at least like my trolls to say amusing things, not garble.13:59
BatchHay14:07
BatchUnb& already?14:07
Batch:>14:07
Batch:<14:07
BatchMeanie.14:07
Batchlulz14:07
Myrttigo away, come back in a month14:07
Myrttikthx14:08
BatchI won't though.14:08
Batch:<14:08
Myrttiplz?14:08
Batchnowai14:09
Batchdoitfgt14:09
Batchkline me nig14:09
Myrttihave it your way then, I'll ban you from here as well14:09
Myrttiheads up for that one14:09
Myrttiis someone thinking about what to say to compengi at -irc?14:10
Myrttielky?14:10
Myrttithx14:11
Myrtti!-search troll16:51
ubottuFound: troll, botattack, trolls-#ubuntu-offtopic, don't feed the troll, nl-troll, feeding the troll, feedthetroll, trolling, atroll, trolls16:51
bazhanghe/she was in earlier and had some very nasty message before quitting16:51
bazhangie beehive16:51
bazhangLaserJock, hi18:20
LaserJockI got a note from Pici to drop by to discuss bots in #edubuntu18:20
bazhanghe seems to be afk18:20
MyrttiI was there though - let me look up the logs18:36
MyrttiLaserJock: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/05/28/%23ubuntu-ops.html18:37
LaserJockMyrtti: about what time?18:37
Myrttiwe noticed the other day that bencrisford had started up couple of bots that were running on #edubuntu18:37
LaserJockah yes18:38
MyrttiLaserJock: starting from 16:4918:38
LaserJockan excited new contributor18:38
Myrttiso we figured18:38
Myrttihe did take them off when asked, but was just wondering your "official" opinion about them, as the general guideline about the bots is, that the official bots the IRC team and Canonical provide should be enough18:39
Myrttis/was/we were/18:39
LaserJockwell18:40
LaserJockif he came up with something useful I was going to maybe ask for it18:40
LaserJockthere are some things that I'd like to see from a bot that I don't think we currently have18:40
LaserJock*but* the bots he did were not very useful and just spammed the channel18:40
Myrttiindeed18:40
LaserJockI was kinda trying to get him to tone it down in a nice way :-)18:41
Myrttianyways, we do have the special bot task force as well, so if you have some requests about the bots, we can look what we can do18:42
LaserJockok18:42
LaserJockcan you do channel-specific things at all?18:42
Myrttiyes18:43
Myrtti!offtopic-#ubuntu-offtopic18:43
ubottuSome things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-ops. Controversial topics, which often turn into flame wars: war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, questionably legal activities, suicide are not for here. Please discuss these rules themselves only in #ubuntu-ops. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy)18:43
Myrtti!offtopic18:43
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!18:43
Myrttifor example factoids18:43
LaserJockI was hoping to get some channel specific package information18:44
LaserJock!info gcompris18:45
Myrttiwhat kind to be exact?18:45
ubottugcompris (source: gcompris): Educational games for small children. In component main, is optional. Version 8.4.4-1.1ubuntu4 (jaunty), package size 457 kB, installed size 1568 kB18:45
LaserJocklike for ^^ I don't want the description, I want the current Debian unstable version18:45
Myrttihmmmm18:46
LaserJockedubuntu has ~ 30 packages that it takes care of, we know what packages are what :-)18:46
LaserJockwe just want to get better info18:46
LaserJockit's quite wishlist, I just wondered18:46
Myrtti!info gcompris foo18:46
ubottu'foo' is not a valid distribution: dapper, dapper-backports, hardy, hardy-backports, intrepid, intrepid-backports, jaunty, jaunty-backports, karmic, karmic-backports, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, medibuntu, partner18:46
Myrttiok, so it doesn't have those enabled, and I'm not sure if they should be enabled by default either...18:47
* Myrtti pokes jussi01 18:47
LaserJockI wonder if there is a way to have like a info-dev command18:47
LaserJockthe info command is nice for general usage18:47
jussi01we can add debian repos no issue18:48
LaserJockbut developers are very likely to not need the description and priority18:48
LaserJockbut they're likely to want more version info18:48
jussi01LaserJock: if you have specific requests, please file a bug and we will attempt to make it happened18:49
LaserJockok cool, it was just a "hmm, it'd be handy if" thing.18:49
jussi01LaserJock: exactly, most of what you are saying can be done fairly easily, we just need to be informed of what you want18:50
jussi01hence we need the bug18:50
jussi01!bug | LaserJock18:53
ubottuLaserJock: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots18:53
topyliwishlist bugs are bugs too :)18:55
Myrtti"if it doesn't work as you expect it to, it's a bug"18:55
MyrttiQOTD: Paul Sladen18:56
topyli+119:14
TheFunkbombGood news everyone, now I can't connect to #ubuntu either19:28
Mamarokwhy am I not astonished?19:30
Myrttihe's in #ubuntu?19:31
Mamarokwell, he seems not to be anymore19:31
* Mamarok is never in #ubuntu19:32
Myrttihrm19:32
Myrtti@mark #ubuntu Kraft kb him, if further problems arise19:37
ubottuThe operation succeeded.19:38
Myrttiok, please, quick, someone remind me why I'm on #ubuntu-uk20:26
popey:(20:26
popeywassup?20:26
popeynot been paying attention20:27
Myrttibrobostigon is being an ass, and the other idiots don't notice and let it happen20:27
Myrttihe did say he's sorry, but I'm not holding my breath on him understanding it20:27
Daviey:o20:27
* popey hits page up for a bit20:28
popeyugh, didnt see that, sorry20:28
MyrttiI'm not sure I want to give the whole channel a lesson on how to not make women feel uncomfortable20:28
popeyWhat would you like to see happen?20:29
popeyI have ideas in mind, but I flat out don't know the best approach20:29
Myrttihmmm20:30
DavieyI have to agree, he clearly wasn't attempting to "troll", and he is a reg' - and we don't normally see that20:30
popeyhe has issues20:31
popeyI doubt he speaks to many people in his own life20:31
MyrttiDaviey: that's not a unique incident20:31
Myrttithat's just the top of the iceberg, and I've just about had it20:32
DavieyMyrtti: If you have some log extracts.. we can have a word, if that helps?20:32
Myrttihold on20:32
jussi01thefunkbomb had dcc exploit problems iirc20:33
popeyMyrtti: sorry it's not been addressed previously20:34
DavieySometimes it's hard to spot, without the usual explicatives.. However raising the issue does help.20:35
Myrttipopey: I've just swallowed it and hoped I'd personally know how to handle it20:36
popeyI'm having a word with him20:37
Myrttihe's nice enough guy, but I just don't know how to handle it20:38
Myrttiwhat bothers me more is that nobody else said that he was out of line this time20:38
Myrttiwhich means that either they're used to him saying things like that (BAD) or they don't care (BAD) or they found it funny (BAD)20:39
DavieyI honestly didn't notice it.. note that there were only a couple of people active at that moment20:40
Davieywe aren't all bad :)20:40
MyrttiDaviey: you weren't active there, neither was popey, so I'm not counting you in20:41
MyrttiI'm talking about the people that were actively participating in the convo20:41
Davieysure20:41
Myrttihe's been picking me as a test subject for his irssi translation plugin - so he translates stuff like "pours some red wine for Myrtti" to Finnish and all. It is a bit creepy20:45
popeyhe tends to "scp coffee to *" a lot20:46
popeyI suspect he's quite a lonely guy20:47
Myrttidid feel a bit weird seeing http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/free/2009/04/05/%23ubuntu-uk.html in my backlog one morning20:47
popeywhich whilst it doesn't _excuse_ his behaviour, it goes a long way to explaining it20:47
Myrttiyup20:47
MyrttiI know he's a good guy, he just hasn't read the howto and doesn't know how to deal with a female being vocal on such a channel20:47
Myrttiit's sad to say this, but I hope he'd treat me as one of the guys, with no special treatment, and leave the gender slurs outside20:48
* popey is having a word20:49
* Myrtti goes to get some apple juice and to knit a bit to unwind20:51
DavieyMyrtti: fancy making me a tank top?20:53
* popey unwinds Myrttis knitting, Tom & Jerry style20:53
DavieyACME TNT20:54
MyrttiDaviey: I'm not allowed to purchase, steal, acquire or receive donations of yarn20:54
Davieysuits me.. means i get it free \o/20:54
MyrttiDaviey: which means I don't have any yarn to use on knitting a tank top20:54
Daviey!20:55
DavieyThis is a problem20:55
DavieyI could "lend" you some yarn?20:55
MyrttiI've got about 20kg of yarn - which I should knit before getting more. Sadly for you, they're all the kind you *REALLY* don't want a tank top of20:55
Myrttikeeping in mind I'm planning to move to UK and all... might need to start offshoring some of my stash to mums20:56
DavieyMyrtti: you'd be suprised what i'd wear :)21:01
popeyyeah!21:01
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Garyis valix a known?21:27
PiciI don't think so...21:27
* Pici looks21:28
Garythanks Pici 21:28
Myrttihe asked in -irc for an ubuntu cloak21:28
Picinothing in the bantracker for that nick21:28
Myrttias a member of ubuntu italian marketing21:28
Garyhe just got a unaffiliated cloak, and gr00ber suggested he is a troll21:28
Myrttiasked him about ubuntu membership and launchpad page, didn't respond, left.21:28
Picigr00ber's response came off as a troll himself.21:29
MyrttiI think I might take a time out on -uk for a while21:29
Myrtticouple of weeks might do me good21:29
Garywhy, whats up with -uk? (apart from us all being nutters)21:32
MyrttiGary: I need to concentrate on work more, the work project is drawing to a close, also see backlog21:32
GaryDaviey: i'd not be suprised21:34
Daviey\o/21:36
Myrttiof course I'm not telling anyone I bought 33€ worth of yarn for this shawl last week *cough*21:39
Pici@login21:49

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