[00:00] <gnelisse> because amarok2 sucks :)
[00:00] <custom_> I'm right there (In partition editing) but I cannot figure out what to do. It does not allow me to create an extended partition. In edit->use as... I see list of filesystems but I do not see the "extended partition" option. So how can I create it?
[00:00] <gnelisse> google for "ubuntu 9.04 amarok 1.4", it will tell you howto downgrade
[00:00] <SeaPhor> linux_user400354, try vlc
[00:00] <linux_user400354> SeaPhor, I like amarok. i want to make it work
[00:00] <aoglobalent> Reading state information... Done compizconfig-settings-manager is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. aoglobalent@aoglobalent-laptop:~$
[00:01] <graelin> custom_: extended is synonymous with logical.. have that option?
[00:01] <jtaji> custom_: you would just make a logical, which by definition is placed in an extended partition
[00:01] <SeaPhor> well then i wish you well linux_user400354
[00:01] <magroo> any backtrack support_
[00:01] <jtaji> custom_: unless of course you already have an extended partition and that and your new space are physically separated
[00:01] <aoglobalent> so, I assume the thing is installed but for some reason it is not working, loool
[00:01] <magroo> yhz are my z and y keys switched_
[00:01] <custom_> I do not see "logical"
[00:01] <ZykoticK9> aoglobalent, type "ccsm" in a terminal then put checks beside cube and spin cube
[00:01] <magroo> ?
[00:01] <Flannel> magroo: What keyboard layout do you have?
[00:02] <custom_> I do not have one yet
[00:02] <magroo> wasd
[00:02] <Zzeiss> What does /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist *do*?
[00:02] <gabriel_> okay, the other question... is there a "ready=boost" for ubuntu?
[00:02] <jtaji> custom_: should be  a selection for primary versus logical, separate from filesystem
[00:02] <SeaPhor> aoglobalent, then System > preferences> compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:02] <magroo> the ? and _ kezs are backwards too...
[00:02] <ZykoticK9> Zzeiss, it prevents kernel modules (drivers) from being loaded
[00:02] <custom_> I do not have one
[00:02] <magroo> *keys
[00:03] <Flannel> magroo: er, what?  anyway, some european layouts swap the z and y characters (from english keyboards, that is).  You might double check you have the right one
[00:03] <rww> gabriel_: "readyboost" as in the Windows Vista feature?
[00:03] <ZykoticK9> gabbah, using Flash as memory is not a good idea - it's slow and flash memory burns out
[00:03] <Zzeiss> ZykoticK9: Um, does it have wierd semantics?  Because I have "blacklist kvm" (it's incompatible with VirtualBox) and yet kvm loads.
[00:03] <gabriel_> yes rww as in making my 4 gig sd into cache
[00:03] <magroo> how do i change this in backtrack
[00:03] <linux_user400354> SeaPhor, all i had to do was install phonon-backend-xine
[00:03] <Zzeiss> ZykoticK9: ... and, do the other blacklist.whatever files do anything?
[00:03] <gabriel_> or maybe swap?
[00:03] <aoglobalent> o.k.
[00:04] <aoglobalent> I did it
[00:04] <draco_> gabriel_:  preload
[00:04] <rww> gabriel_: Putting a swap partition on the SD card would do the same thing, as far as I know.
[00:04] <rww> not a particularly grat idea, though, as ZykoticK9 mentioned.
[00:04] <rww> s/grat/great/
[00:04] <custom_> I have 2 primary ones, than goes an unused space and than there goes the third primary one. And I'm trying to place the extended partition in between  the primary ones does it ok?
[00:05] <SeaPhor> linux_user400354, good, I hope all works to your needs, ;-)
[00:05] <magroo> does mony make the world go round, or does, money make people go round the word
[00:05] <ZykoticK9> Zzeiss, what version are you running?  i remember that problem from what seems like years ago - under 9.04 "lsmod | grep kvm" gives me nothing
[00:05] <draco_> gabriel_:  nvm thinking of the wrong thing.
[00:05] <gabriel_> i have set it as swap, but i don't know if it's working
[00:05] <aoglobalent> now what, it is still not working. I press the ctrl+alt+left/right and it does not work
[00:05] <linux_user400354> SeaPhor, yep, its the best linux audio player IMO
[00:05] <graelin> aoglobalent: When you get cube checked and such.. don't forget to go into general option and add a few desktops (horizontal = 3 or more) else 'cuce' is pretty boring
[00:05] <graelin> cu*be
[00:05] <aoglobalent> I have 4
[00:06] <aoglobalent> 4
[00:06] <Zzeiss> ZykoticK9: I'm running 9.04.  Kernel is  2.6.28-11-generic .
[00:06] <graelin> it looks nice with 5
[00:06] <aoglobalent> will make it 5
[00:06] <aoglobalent> then what
[00:06] <usser> gabriel_, you have to add the swap partition to fstab or do swapon /dev/sd[whatever]
[00:06] <gabriel_> I use swapon -a in terminal and ti doesn't do anything.
[00:06] <ZykoticK9> Zzeiss, have you enabled kvm in some way?  are you sure there is still a problem with KVM & VB?
[00:06] <rob0917> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:06] <usser> gabriel_, swapon -a will only work if the partition is in /etc/fstab
[00:06] <gabriel_> oh ok
[00:07] <rww> rob0917: throw a / at the start of that :)
[00:07] <rob0917> ty
[00:07] <gabriel_> so then I gedit /etc/fstab?
[00:07] <rww> gabriel_: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab. It's not writable by normal users.
[00:07] <Zzeiss> ZykoticK9: there was as of late last week.  :(  (but "rmmod kvm_intel" then "rmmod kvm" does the trick)
[00:07] <draco_> gabriel_:  Or swap on /dev/whateverdevice
[00:07] <graelin> not entirely sure.. compiz has a billion options.. I have mine set to spin when I scroll wheel click but you can set whatever you want in cube spin plugin
[00:07] <rob0917> join /#ubuntu-offtopic
[00:07] <gabriel_> ahh ok
[00:08] <rww> rob0917: at the start. /join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[00:08] <wazzan> 0641064a 06280646062a 062a0631064a062f 062a062a063906310641
[00:08] <rob0917> ok
[00:08] <graelin> Blah memtest86+ takes to damn long
[00:08] <ZykoticK9> Zzeiss, not a problem i'm having but i don't use kvm in any way anymore - use too, but recent VB releases have been amazing
[00:08] <Zzeiss> ZykoticK9: Yeah.  kvm is left in the dust.  *sigh*
[00:09] <Zzeiss> Anyway, time to try something else.  Thanks all.
[00:09] <SeaPhor> aoglobalent, is this a laptop? Usb mouse?
[00:09] <gabriel_> # swap was on /dev/mmcblk0p1 during installation
[00:09] <aoglobalent> Lapotop!
[00:09] <gabriel_> UUID=52c1d0ae-86df-4e77-82d8-090217ca31e6 none            swap    sw              0       0
[00:09] <gabriel_> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[00:09] <gabriel_> and that
[00:09] <aoglobalent> IBM Thinkpad, LEnovo t500
[00:09] <gabriel_>  is correct
[00:10] <aoglobalent> High powered ATI graphics card, if u want I can get the exact model?!?!
[00:10] <aoglobalent> It has worked before on this box though, that is for sure!
[00:10] <gabriel_> except do I want to remove "noauto"?
[00:10] <SeaPhor> aoglobalent, is there a scroll section on the touchpad?
[00:10] <aoglobalent> hu?
[00:11] <SeaPhor> aoglobalent, as of yet, ATI does NOT support compiz, that said, i can make it work
[00:11] <ZykoticK9> gabbah, don't remove noauto from a cd mount - or it will mount the cd every time you boot - what if there is no cd there?
[00:11] <aoglobalent> How?
[00:11] <ZykoticK9> gabriel_, sorry see above
[00:11] <usser> gabriel_, noauto is for cdrom there
[00:11] <gabriel_> oh wrong line then lol
[00:12] <elitecoder> When I'm sure permissions are correct to allow writing to a file.. what else should I try?
[00:12] <gabriel_> how do I tell if it
[00:12] <aoglobalent> Seaphor, how... Can u help me?!?!
[00:12] <elitecoder> I think there was one more thing that even blocks our root
[00:12] <gabriel_> working>?
[00:12] <elitecoder> out *
[00:12] <SeaPhor> aoglobalent, compiz details is kinda OT here, if you want to join #seaphor i'll help u there
[00:12] <gabriel_> sorry my enter button extremely sensitive lol
[00:12] <ZykoticK9> elitecoder, what are you trying to do?
[00:13] <aoglobalent> how do I join bro, Seaphor?
[00:13] <erUSUL> elitecoder: check the parent directory permissions
[00:13] <elitecoder> I want www-data to be able to move files into /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing.
[00:13] <elitecoder> erUSUL: I'm doing that now.
[00:13] <elitecoder> so far they're fine
[00:13] <SeaPhor> aoglobalent, type /join #seaphor
[00:13] <aoglobalent> I'm there!
[00:14] <gabriel_> # swap was on /dev/mmcblk0p1 during installation
[00:14] <gabriel_> UUID=52c1d0ae-86df-4e77-82d8-090217ca31e6 none            swap    sw              0       0
[00:14] <gabriel_> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[00:14] <gabriel_> oopse
[00:15] <graelin> is ext4 complete, or is it a squirrelly fs technology?
[00:15] <ZykoticK9> gabriel_, use pastbin for stuff like that
[00:15] <B3rz3rk3r> gabriel_, careful or floodboot will get u
[00:15] <shane2peru> does anyone know where I can find soome good mencoder experts?
[00:15] <rww> graelin: It works fine for me, but isn't considered tested enough to be Ubuntu's default yet.
[00:15] <elitecoder> Permissions: /var (drwxr-xr-x)
[00:16] <shane2peru> I have managed to find a way to record my vhs however I need some mencoder pointers to slow down the video
[00:16] <elitecoder> var/spool (drwxr-xr-x)
[00:16] <ZykoticK9> shane2peru, mencoder is pretty complicated and made by the same people as mplayer - best of luck
[00:16] <B3rz3rk3r> graelin, iv seen great improvement in boot time with EXT4, and large file transfers complete a few seconds quicker, but honetly if you hadnt been told it was there instead of EXT3 you prob would notice
[00:16] <elitecoder> var/spool/asterisk/ (drwxr-x--- )
[00:16] <elitecoder> asterisk/outgoing (drwxrwx---)
[00:16] <shane2peru> ZykoticK9: yes, I have found it to be kind of complex, however very capable app
[00:16] <elitecoder> hmm
[00:16] <graelin> i've had to install ubuntu 3 times in the last day... can't track the problem down for the life of me... suspecting disk/io/hardware problems
[00:16] <gabriel_> wha's pastbin?
[00:16] <erUSUL> !paste | gabriel_
[00:17] <draco_> graelin: For whatever reason it works faster on flash drives too.
[00:17] <shane2peru> ok how about the chat room for mplayer support?
[00:17] <ZykoticK9> shane2peru, mplayer & mencoder are AMAZING - strongest media player/encoder available IMHO
[00:17] <gnelisse> anyone here using ldap authentication for pam ?
[00:17] <gabriel_> okay thanks
[00:17] <rww> shane2peru: #mplayer on Freenode; see http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=MPlayer_FAQ
[00:17] <shane2peru> ZykoticK9: I agree, it is too bad you need a college degree in mplayer to use all it's features. :)
[00:17] <shane2peru> thanks rww
[00:18] <B3rz3rk3r> draco_ formatting flash drives to EXT4 or your OS accessing them?
[00:18] <Brack10> mplayer rules
[00:18] <Brack10> mpd rules even more
[00:18] <Brack10> for music
[00:18] <draco_> B3rz3rk3r: Installing the entire OS to a flash drive and running it from there.
[00:18] <TheNano> ZykoticK9: have seen smplayer ?
[00:18] <shane2peru> rww:  thanks
[00:19] <ZykoticK9> TheNano, yup, i've tried all the mplayer frontends - personally I like mplayer-nogui, but that's just me
[00:19] <B3rz3rk3r> draco_ im doing that for my installation, and running live from there, are you running permenant OS from a USB tho? 0.o
[00:19] <graelin> I've been happy with it, but here's my deal. First disaster was caused by installing and running handbrake. Fairly sure that was a version problem. But it crashed the machine hard and when I rebooted, it kernel panicked about not being able to synch root fs on VFS or unknown block (0,0) or somesuch
[00:19] <gabriel_> is there a way to install on a 4 gig sd card so that windows is untouched?  I can't boot to the sd card, but I could probably make an usb bootdisk thing
[00:20] <draco_> B3rz3rk3r: Permanent, not the "install to flash drive" live version.
[00:20] <ali_> hi
[00:20] <kree> hey guys where is general chat
[00:21] <Jaison> omg
[00:21] <Jaison> tem alguem aew?
[00:21] <graelin> so I reinstalled... then the mouse randomly stops working usually moving a window. restarting X seemed to help, but usually it would hang on the restart... still kinda does that I think, but this recent crash is pissin me off to much to worry bout that
[00:21] <Flannel> kree: #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:21] <erUSUL> gabriel_: if you do not want to touch windows you may want to try wubi (disclaimer: never used it myself )
[00:21] <erUSUL> !wubi | gabriel_
[00:21] <kree> Flannel: thanks
[00:21] <ZykoticK9> gabriel_, depending on the speed of you SD card, running from SD is very slow :(  tried this a couple of times for my EEE but you really need fast SD cards to make it bearable
[00:22] <lyrae> when i open an app, it keeps opening in the bottom left corner of my monitor, why?
[00:22] <gabriel_> okay so wubi is the way to go then.  I have used it and it seems to work fine.
[00:23] <gabriel_> The only thing is that I only have a 130 gig hd and didn't want to use it up.
[00:23] <draco_> gabriel_: Delete some porn.
[00:24] <gabriel_> lol no porn, things like .net professional editors and doom III
[00:24] <bruce_> how do I figure out where in /dev my dvd device is ?
[00:25] <graelin> can't get in anymore.. boots up, but hangs on startup sound. even with gnome failsafe. If I can get in on a cmd line, what file do I need to edit to disable the previous session settings... specifically start up programs
[00:25] <gabriel_> .net pro takes 12 dvd's to install lol
[00:25] <draco_> gabriel_: Yeah.... I've hid it in those folders too.... :-)
[00:25] <rww> bruce_: it should be symlinked from /dev/dvd
[00:25] <kree> garbrial: porn and doom, that what computer where ment for
[00:26] <LadyNikon> bruce_: i think if you type mount you can see it
[00:26] <kree> garbrial: .net is a fine example of how to waste space
[00:26] <gabriel_> so you saying there should be porn in doom III?
[00:26] <rww> kree, draco_: I'd prefer if you didn't mention pornography in here; it tends to make some people uncomfortable. Thanks :)
[00:26] <kree> rww: sorry :P
[00:26] <arand> also, you're offtopic. :P
[00:26] <graelin> however pron is perfectly acceptable
[00:26] <draco_> lol, np
[00:26] <gabriel_> well I have to go to other things.
[00:27] <erUSUL> ontopic folks
[00:28] <gabriel_> one more question.  does swap get used at all if my ram is not full?
[00:28] <dobigeon> hello, i'm testing my new linux distribution
[00:28] <graelin> not likely
[00:28] <_dark_> no
[00:28] <graelin> swap is becomming a red herring
[00:28] <rww> gabriel_: a very amount will; most of it won't. It'll also be used if you hibernate.
[00:28] <gabriel_> okay so having 4 gigs of ram I don't even need the swap?
[00:29] <brian_> hey, how can I make my desktop load faster?
[00:29] <jrib> gabriel_: you do if you want to suspend to disk
[00:29] <gabriel_> it says I can't hibernate
[00:29] <arand> gabriel_: If you want hibernation you do.
[00:29] <rww> gabriel_: One of the prerequisites for hibernation is that you have a larger swap than your RAM.
[00:30]  * rww isn't sure whether it all needs to be on the same swap partition
[00:30] <graelin> 55 mins... 75% done on memory test <sigh>
[00:30] <gabriel_> okay when I installed I used the SD as swap which is same as ram. but it won't use it to hibernate.
[00:30] <rww> gabriel_: A 4GB SD card probably doesn't have 4GB of usable space.
[00:30] <bwv544>  hi, someone knows how to use a midi peripheral ?
[00:30] <myself> how do i make my HD automatically mount on startup in UBUNTU
[00:30] <erUSUL> !fstab | myself
[00:30] <gabriel_> oh so I need an 8 gig one then lol
[00:31] <myself> can you just tell me
[00:31] <arand> myself: manual editing of fstab.
[00:31] <myself> how do i do dat
[00:31] <myself> hmm ill look
[00:31] <graelin> myself: magic wand
[00:31] <myself> can u show me graey alien
[00:32] <arand> myself: you could try something like mountmanager which is agui version, might be simpler.
[00:32] <graelin> sudo vi /etc/fstab and duplicate a known mounting fs. remember to change the device in question
[00:32] <myself> hmm
[00:32] <gabriel_> it says that using that uuid is not allowed
[00:33] <arand> graelin: zomg, you're giving him VI?, nano does exist...
[00:33] <gabriel_> how do I hibernate from terminal?
[00:33] <ZykoticK9> myself, graelin  don't try using vi - perhaps "sudo nano /etc/fstab" would be more your speed
[00:33] <brian_> is there a fast desktop like compiz, but one that doesn't ruin 3d applications?
[00:34] <rww> gabriel_: pm-hibernate
[00:34] <moz_> slm
[00:34] <graelin> gabriel_: get a 4GB thumbdrive (8 would be better) and use the USB startup disk install utility under system/admin. Boot off the jumpdrive and you have instant portable linux
[00:34] <jrib> brian_: how about compiz?
[00:34] <rww> brian_: Compiz'
[00:34] <myself> what the hell is mountmanager
[00:34] <rww> brian_: Compiz's problems with 3D apps are a limitation of current Xorg drivers, not Compiz.
[00:34] <myself> i dont like it
[00:34] <myself> arrr
[00:34] <arand> brian_: you could always use metacity --replace & and compiz --replace & to switch when playing fullscreen games..
[00:35] <graelin> myself: My wife... but she doesn't ever manage mounting in my favor
[00:35] <myself> hmm
[00:35] <myself> SO WHAT DO I TYPE in mount manager to get it to mount my HD :)
[00:35] <myself> on startup
[00:35] <rww> myself: Try reading the link that ubottu gave you, and come back with questions you have once you've done that.
[00:36] <myself> alright im gona remove mountmanager
[00:36] <graelin> what is on this HD? Is it like a spare data drive, or part of existing fs? Ubuntu has always played nice with attached devices
[00:36] <myself> its my NTFS partitition basically
[00:37] <gabriel_> LOL cool!!!! that's awesome instant portable ubuntu
[00:37] <myself> yeah so jesus christ why can't you just tell me the command to mount it on startup
[00:37] <myself> i dont know the command
[00:38] <jrib> !language | myself
[00:38] <graelin> try adding the panel applet to panel that handles mounting. Should see the drive when you boot and then you can manually mount it using the applet. Only way you will get an automount is with an entry in fstab, and since I'm not in Linux to look at that file, I can't help ya
[00:38] <jrib> !ntfs > myself
[00:39] <arand> myself: there is unfortunately no *one command* for it, it depends on you partitioning layout, what permissions you want it to be mounted with, etc.
[00:39] <gabriel_> thanks for the help
[00:39] <gabriel_> byebye
[00:39] <myself> okay ubottu sent me the right thing, thanky ou
[00:42] <Laibsch> Is anybody aware of a solution to stripe several filesystems into one?  I know about LVM, but AFAIK that can only work on real device nodes (hardware).  I want to store a couple of 2G files on a fileserver and cluster them together to form a 10G ext3 filesystem.
[00:42] <moz_> slm
[00:43] <tacoma949> hello room, trying to mount a ntfs drive and i get the error... unable to mount, logfile indicates unclean shutdown and then another error that shows... dbus error the remote app did not send a reply, the timeout expired
[00:44] <moz_> slm
[00:44] <jimlovell777> can anyone tell me what this folder (.python-eggs) in my home dir belongs to? System file or is it from something else?
[00:44] <myself> thank psydm is actually a really good mounting program, alright peace
[00:44] <myself> thanks!
[00:44] <draco_> tacoma949: You didn't shut down windows cleanly the last time you were in it.
[00:45] <ZykoticK9> jimlovell777, nothing in your home directory is a system file.  i have no idea what .python-eggs is.
[00:45] <JohnnyVbox> LoL i done so much stupidity that i am reinstalling ubuntu
[00:45] <JohnnyVbox> god bless that i am using virtualbox
[00:45] <tacoma949> ? i use linux draco_
[00:46] <draco_> tacoma949: Then why are you mounting a NTFS parition?
[00:46] <arand> jimlovell777: could try something like: dpkg -S ~/.python-eggs/*
[00:46] <jimlovell777> ZykoticK9: So I can safely delete it likely? I realize it has something to do with python, it's the egg part that makes me curious. Inside the folder is this folder Blocklist-1.0-py2.6.egg-tmp, three pngs and a glade file
[00:47] <tacoma949> draco_, because i need data off of a external
[00:47] <ZykoticK9> jimlovell777, i have no idea what it is.  but anything in your home directory belongs to you - so it's your choice if you delete it or not
[00:48] <draco_> tacoma949: Ewww...   Easiest way is to attach it to a windows machine and do a clean shutdown, otherwise you have to learn a couple console commands to ignore the errors.
[00:48] <ZykoticK9> jimlovell777, always safe to make a backup first
[00:49] <JohnnyVbox> always better NOT to mess with ntfs in case you have important files
[00:49] <jimlovell777> ZykoticK9: Yea I just get cautious deleting stuff in my Home dir because once I did and was unable to log in :\ this seems safe to delete though, thanks for the input.
[00:49] <forces> how can I mount a windows partition when the partition have a cache for hibernate?
[00:49] <jimlovell777> arand: Ran it and nothing return, nice command to keep on hand though, thanks.
[00:49] <zephryos> There any really low memory distributions of Linux other than Puppy Linux, can't seem to use it because there noone that knows anything about it or active in #puppylinux ._.
[00:49] <JohnnyVbox> use DSL
[00:50] <JohnnyVbox> i like it
[00:50] <JohnnyVbox> lol
[00:50] <rww> zephryos: ask ##linux. Non-Ubuntu discussion is off-topic for this channel.
[00:50] <zephryos> rww: Not like I'm endorsing the bloody thing but alright -.-
[00:51] <JohnnyVbox> mirc is so crazy... netsplits, tons of away people...
[00:51] <draco_> zephryos: Xubuntu?
[00:51] <JohnnyVbox> DSL!
[00:51] <JohnnyVbox> lol
[00:51] <JohnnyVbox> 50mb distro
[00:52] <Xcell> JohnnyVbox-  looks like a bot.
[00:52] <ZykoticK9> JohnnyVbox, try and keep your posts to a single line, easier for everyone to follow
[00:52] <JohnnyVbox> alright
[00:52] <JohnnyVbox> ill do it
[00:52] <JohnnyVbox> i mean, alright, ill do it
[00:52] <zephryos> draco_: Tried Xubuntu, I got it on and it took 20mins to load the gui.. 30 mins befor eI could open the Application Menu..
[00:52] <tacoma949> draco_, thankyou
[00:52] <draco_> tacoma949: np
[00:52] <JohnnyVbox> [zephryos]: try dsl, 50mb distro, no compressing stuff, its fast alot
[00:53] <JohnnyVbox> [zephryos]: tested on a virtualbox thought
[00:53] <elitecoder> I'm having a small permissions issue. Am I missing something? http://pastebin.com/d7422fa6f
[00:53] <elitecoder> I keep getting permission denied.
[00:54] <je||y> hey my mouse hasn't worked ever since this bluetooth update. what the hecks going on??????
[00:54] <shiznebit> can someone point me to where i can find the latest Mesa Ati build ?
[00:54] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: bt mouse or wired?
[00:54] <je||y> bt
[00:55] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: hmmm... try pairing your mouse again
[00:55] <ZykoticK9> elitecoder, asterisk group doesn't have permission to right to /var/spool/asterisk only read and execute
[00:55] <je||y> i did
[00:55] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: do you get any error?
[00:55] <je||y> no
[00:55] <elitecoder> ZykoticK9: But I only want to write in the outgoing dir
[00:55] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: Cant help you then, i use BT on host (windowxp)
[00:55] <ZykoticK9> elitecoder, sorry my mistake
[00:55] <elitecoder> ok np
[00:55] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: revert to old drivers.
[00:56] <rww> elitecoder: Did you log out of www-data (assuming you're logged into it and not doing this with some sort of script) and back in after adding it to the asterisk group?
[00:56] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: might solve your problems
[00:56] <je||y> JohnnyVbox: you mean you only use ubuntu on a vm?
[00:56] <elitecoder> rww: No. It's um... a webserver so ... should I restart it?
[00:56] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: you got it
[00:56] <je||y> JohnnyVbox: how do i revert to old drivers?
[00:56] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: download em'
[00:56] <je||y> from where?
[00:56] <rww> elitecoder: I think that might be necessary, yeah. I've had problems with newly-added permissions that were solved that way.
[00:56] <je||y> what?
[00:56] <je||y> what from where?
[00:57] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: you use widcomm or toshiba stack?
[00:57] <elitecoder> rww: Ok restarted and trying again. Good thinking. We'll see if that works
[00:57] <je||y> JohnnyVbox: i have no idea
[00:57] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: :/
[00:57] <jforte> join #zandardnd
[00:58] <asgard> exit
[00:58] <je||y> JohnnyVbox:
[00:58] <draco_> lol exit fail
[00:59] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: what?
[00:59] <je||y> JohnnyVbox: what do i do?
[00:59] <wubrgamer> I just had a quick question about spaces in filenames: "Whitespace is allowed in fat32, ntfs, hfs, and all of the linux filesystems (generally).  So why are they not more widespread? Is there an argument for/against using whitespace in file/document filenames?"
[00:59] <rww> asgard: Try /part to close this channel, or /quit to close all IRC channels.
[00:59] <chiques> I just checked my serial port in my bios and it reads: Serial Port A, BIOS I/O address 3F8 and interrupt IRQ4.... how can I configure minicom to see this port?
[01:00] <je||y> wubrgamer: whats wubr?
[01:00] <draco_> wubrgamer: Yeah, they take longer to type.
[01:00] <graelin> wubrgamer: On a command line files with whitespace are a PITA
[01:00] <libtech> wubrgamer: maybe no spaces makes it simpler?
[01:00] <wubrgamer> je||y: white blue black red green
[01:00] <wubrgamer> but spaces don't present any technical problems on their own correct?
[01:00] <rww> wubrgamer: correct. They're just a pain.
[01:00] <graelin> nope
[01:00] <wubrgamer> huh, coolio
[01:00] <je||y> JohnnyVbox: what do i do?
[01:01] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: wait, let me think
[01:01] <wubrgamer> I'm going to start using them more to "tag" my filenames so they come up more easily in searches of the filenames
[01:01] <wubrgamer> is that a bad idae?
[01:01] <graelin> <-- hopes THIS install takes without funky crash typ problems
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> wubrgamer, spaces are delt with on command line by using either " around the whole name, or the \ to escape the space - so it's really just a bit of a pain more then anything else - breaks my scripts all the time - so i typically have to script a conversion of spaces to underscores.  but space are perfectly acceptable.
[01:01] <libtech> how can i get involved in developing for ubuntu?
[01:01] <Ron586> good, made it back
[01:01] <seedofc> wubrgamer: other than making your filenames long an ugly?
[01:01] <seedofc> and*
[01:02] <usser> libtech, pick a package that you want to be improved get sources modify it and submit patches
[01:02] <elitecoder> rww: that solved it. thanks :]
[01:02] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: "UPDATE: Reverting bluez-utils, bluez-audio, and bluez-cups back to 3.26-0ubuntu5 fixed the problem. Old packages can be downloaded from http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bluez-utils/ and installed manually with dpkg. Then to lock the version go into Synaptic, locate the packages, then go to Package -> Lock Version."
[01:02] <matt__> Is there a way to configure how big a Gnome terminal will be when you open it?
[01:02] <rww> elitecoder: glad I could help :)
[01:02] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: what about giving it a try?
[01:03] <Serpardum> Hello.Hello. I"m trying to compile a c++ code with.. gcc -o kernel.o -c kernel.cpp ...     I told that cclplus doesn't exist.  This is in kubuntu.  What do I need to do /add to get gcc in kubuntu to compile c++?
[01:03] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: didn't test it... but... it seems to work for this guy
[01:03] <chiques> I'm trying to launch minicom and I get "cannot open /dev/tty0: Permission denied" Can anyone give me any insight to what this means?
[01:03] <txoof> I think I've borked my perl installation by using cpan (I didn't realize that ubuntu manages perl packages through apt).  What would be the sanest way to purge perl and then reinstall it?  I'm tempted to do 'apt-get purge perl', but I'm afraid I'm going to break HUNDREDS of packages.
[01:03] <tacoma949> is there a way to have pictures rotate on ur background like osx?
[01:03] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: moar (more) info here: "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/bluez-utils/+bug/220269"
[01:04] <rww> matt__: if you're launching it from a shortcut or something, you can use gnome-terminal --geometry SIZE GOES HERE. See man gnome-terminal
[01:04] <usser> tacoma949, yes, but not without some command line
 Hey thanks!
[01:05] <usser> tacoma949, copy one of the wallpapers to rotate.jpg
[01:05] <rww> matt__: actually, --geometry's explained better in the X manpage, which doesn't seem to be installed by default. See http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/en/man7/X.7.html if you want it.
[01:05] <usser> tacoma949, then write a script that periodically copies some other wallpaper over rotate.jpg
[01:06] <tacoma949> eh, thought there would be a program for it...
[01:06] <ruler> how to format a memory card
[01:07] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: solved?
[01:07] <rww> tacoma949: there probably is, but I haven't used one. "wallpaper-tray" looks like it might be useful if you're using GNOME.
[01:07] <JohnnyVbox> [ruler]: download a software for doing it or you are destroying your card
[01:07] <usser> tacoma949, here http://lifehacker.com/400505/rotate-desktop-backgrounds-in-ubuntu
[01:07] <tacoma949> just found that :) thanks
[01:08] <ruler> johnnycbox: what software i have to download
[01:08] <je||y> JohnnyVbox: this is the last entry:The Microsoft 5000 Bluetooth mouse has trouble on 8.10 (won't reconnect after a boot, and you have to delete the entry and reconnect) and it doesn't connect at all in 9.04 beta.
[01:08] <Serpardum> I had to install g++
[01:08] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: thats bad....
[01:08] <je||y> JohnnyVbox: did you get my pm?
[01:09] <hsj86715> ?
[01:09] <ruler> jonnyvbox: how to install that software
[01:10] <ruler> how to format a pendrive
[01:10] <Joeseph> Out of curiosity, is ext4 going to be default in Karmic Koala? Have they made a decision yet?
[01:10] <ZykoticK9> ruler, you don't need any additional software - try searching google for "ubuntu format flash" or similar - you need to decide what format to use EXT or FAT, they both have different implications.  best of luck.
[01:11] <rww> Joeseph: yes, I think they decided to make it the default at UDS recently.
[01:11] <seedofc> anyone know of good software to create virtual cd/dvd-rom drives (to mount iso/img files)?
[01:11] <rww> Joeseph: #ubuntu+1 would be more likely to know
[01:11] <rww> !iso | seedofc
[01:12] <Joeseph> rww: Alright, thanks.  Sounds exciting.
[01:12] <bastid_raZor> seedofc, just create a directory, mount it there.. or the !iso
[01:12] <chiques> linxeh, ZykoticK9 I was wondering if you guys could help me with a serial port detection problem
[01:12] <seedofc> bastid_raZor: duh... I didn't think of that.. thanks
[01:12] <chiques> linxeh, ZykoticK9  I just checked my serial port in my bios and it reads: Serial Port A, BIOS I/O address 3F8 and interrupt IRQ4.... how can I configure minicom to see this port?
[01:12] <armyriad> Are usernames case-sensitive?
[01:12] <txoof> can purge and autoremove be combined with apt-get somehow to automatically purge and remove obsolete packages?
[01:13] <chiques> linxeh, ZykoticK9  I'm trying to launch minicom and I get "cannot open /dev/tty0: Permission denied" Can anyone give me any insight to what this means?
[01:13] <ZykoticK9> chiques, i'm affraid i have zero experience with serial ports on linux - best of luck.
[01:13] <chiques> ZykoticK9, Thanks for responding
[01:13] <ZykoticK9> chiques, that "permission denied" are you running the command as root?
[01:13] <chiques> ZykoticK9, No, just as the user logged in
[01:13] <ZykoticK9> chiques, try the same command with sudo infront of it :)
[01:14] <jimlovell777> When a new version of a program in the repos is released how soon could I expect to see the new version available as an update? I use gPodder 0.14.0 which has an annyoing and wasteful bug and in version 0.16.0 the issue has been fixed. When could I expect 0.16.0 to be available?
[01:14] <rww> chiques: normal users don't have access to /dev/tty* by default on Ubuntu
[01:14] <chiques> ZykoticK9, I tried sudo but it returns the same message
[01:14] <chiques> rww, I saw a document to change permissions with #sudo chmod a+w /dev/ttyS0 but that didnt' work
[01:15] <je||y> can any staff here please explain to me why my Bluetooth mouse doesn't work after this latest update?
[01:15] <ruler> can i use yahoo messenger in ubuntu
[01:15] <rww> jimlovell777: Ubuntu doesn't upgrade to new major versions of software as part of the regular update cycle. Karmic currently has 0.15.1 (because that's the latest version in Debian). You'd need to put a backport request in to get it on Jaunty.
[01:15] <ZykoticK9> chiques, what about read permission
[01:15] <bastid_raZor> ruler, you can use pidgin in its place
[01:15] <bruce_> how do I get vlc to play audio cd's ?
[01:15] <jvainio> hello! I have a problem installing a package. It says to set DATADIR in makefile.unix to point where the data is - and i do change it, save the file, close the file yet the problem persists. What am I doing wrong??? :o
[01:16] <chiques> ZykoticK9, How do I test read permission?
[01:16] <jimlovell777> rww: Ok thanks.
[01:16] <CrazyDavid91> Hey
[01:16] <ruler> bastid_raZor : in that i did not know how to use the messenger
[01:16] <CrazyDavid91> Anyone know how to make opengl work decently in ubuntu?
[01:16] <Zzeiss> chiques: yes... you don't have permission to read/write/setmode on that device.
[01:17] <ZykoticK9> chiques, "ls -l /dev/tty0"
[01:17] <Joeseph> hmmm... it's times when you're backing up 60 gigs that you want an ssd...................
[01:17] <je||y> can anyone here please explain to me why my Bluetooth mouse doesn't work after this latest update?
[01:17] <FUbbyCD> hey
[01:17] <chiques> Zzeiss, ZykoticK9 I'll try ZykoticK9's command
[01:17] <rww> chiques: are you trying to use /dev/ttyS0 or /dev/tty0? You've asked about both.
[01:17] <CrazyDavid91> Anyone know about opengl in ubuntu being stupid?
[01:17] <FUbbyCD> How do i turn off the hardware accelleration?
[01:17] <FUbbyCD> on my graphics card
[01:18] <CrazyDavid91> OpenGL rendered applications are always getting to the very top...
[01:18] <chiques> rww, ttyS0
[01:18] <rww> chiques: iirc, ttyS0 is the one you want for serial port stuff. If you wanted to access that, add your user to the dialout group.
[01:18] <bastid_raZor> ruler, accounts>manage accounts> pick which protocol you wish to use.. AIM !Y MSN
[01:18] <ZykoticK9> je||y, are you talking about upgrading like 8.10 - > 9.04 or there was an upgrade to bluez or something?
[01:18] <weatherkid> Hey, I am running 8.04.2. I know to get the new Atheros cards to work I can't use the default ones unless something changed but I forgot if ubuntu has cc installed and where I get those drivers
[01:18] <JohnnyVbox> rww wine
[01:18] <chiques> rww, OK I'll do that right now
[01:18] <JohnnyVbox> [rww]: wine
[01:18] <JohnnyVbox> lol
[01:18] <FUbbyCD> I really just have a general question as to what it would be like to not have hardware acceleration on a graphics card
[01:18] <weatherkid> !atheros
[01:18] <JohnnyVbox> !bluetooth
[01:18] <FUbbyCD> like what would i not be able to do
[01:18] <rww> JohnnyVbox: I have no idea of what you're talking about.
[01:18] <adnsku> i want to install rtorrent in a way that every user on my server can use it at the same time... what do i have to do so that everyuser can open a rtorrent and download to its folder? and many users can be connected at the same time? thanks =P
[01:18] <je||y> ZykoticK9: there was an update to bluez
[01:18] <Zzeiss> FUbbyCD: Well, video gets a lot slower... mostly just loss of framerate.
[01:18] <judgepg> quit
[01:19] <usser> FUbbyCD, play 3d games
[01:19] <FUbbyCD> what about youtube?
[01:19] <FUbbyCD> i heard divx and dvd are no gos
[01:19] <usser> FUbbyCD, it will be choppy
[01:19] <FUbbyCD> is there a way i can try that
[01:19] <usser> FUbbyCD, but that depends on the card, both ati and nvidia opensource drivers are pretty good at 3d nowadays
[01:19] <matt__> Is there a way to remove the down arrows next to each folder on the bookmark toolbar of FF for Gnome?
[01:19] <chiques> Zzeiss, ZykoticK9 rww I just ran #ls -l /dev/ttyS0 and it returned "crw-rw--w- 1 root diralout 4, 64 2009-05-29 16:58 /dev/ttyS0" Not sure what this means though.
[01:19] <babyju> What is your recommendation for a remote desktop manager..gnome if you can?
[01:19] <FUbbyCD> im wanting to switch to something where i wont have hw accel and want to know what it will be like before i take the plunge
[01:19] <rww> FUbbyCD: you'd need 2D acceleration for DVDs etc.. My card has 2D acceleration but not 3D acceleration, and video works fine but compiz, 3D games, etc. don't.
[01:20] <ZykoticK9> je||y, what type of BT Mouse are you using?
[01:20] <je||y> ZykoticK9: there was an update to bluez
[01:20] <FUbbyCD> i see
[01:20] <weatherkid> Hey, I am running 8.04.2. I know to get the new Atheros cards to work I can't use the default ones unless something changed but I forgot if ubuntu has cc installed and where I get those drivers
[01:20] <rww> chiques: /dev/ttyS0 is owned by the user root and the group dialout. root has read/write access, dialout group has read write access. Other people have write (but not read) access.
[01:20] <ZykoticK9> je||y, yes you mentioned that
[01:20] <FUbbyCD> is there a way to temporarily disable hw accel?
[01:20] <Zzeiss> usser: Um... depends on the card.  Newer cards have very weak support.
[01:20] <ruler> bastid_raZor: thanks
[01:20] <je||y> ZykoticK9: The Microsoft 5000 Bluetooth mouse
[01:21] <FUbbyCD> like what im worried about is the graphics on audacity
[01:21] <FUbbyCD> i do a lot of audio editing
[01:21] <ruler> bastid_raZor: how to format  a pendrive
[01:21] <bastid_raZor> ruler, you can have several protocols at once.. just add another in the manage accounts
[01:21] <adnsku> how can i create many different users on ubuntu, and let them use the servet at the same time on its own configurations?
[01:21] <FUbbyCD> and if I can not work with audacity or if its crazy choppy it will not be good
[01:21] <ZykoticK9> je||y, known bug - see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/343727
[01:21] <chiques> rww, OK, I'll try to figure out how to add my log in to the dialout group
[01:22] <bastid_raZor> ruler, possibly using gparted
[01:22] <ruler> bastid_raZor: i did not know how to install it
[01:23] <weatherkid> Hey, I am running 8.04.2. I know to get the new Atheros cards to work I can't use the default ones unless something changed but I forgot if ubuntu has cc installed and where I get those drivers My card(according to windows) is a Atheros AR5007 802.11b/g WiFi adapter
[01:23] <je||y> ZykoticK9: would reverting to hardy or intrepid fix this?
[01:23] <FUbbyCD> so im taking it hw accel can not be disabled on graphics cards under ubuntu
[01:23] <bastid_raZor> !gparted > ruler
[01:23] <rww> chiques: sudo usermod -aG dialout YOURUSERNAMEHERE
[01:23] <FUbbyCD> i know it sounds dumb but i want to disable it temp
[01:23] <weatherkid> Hey, I am running 8.04.2. I know to get the new Atheros cards to work I can't use the default ones unless something changed but I forgot if ubuntu has cc installed and where I get those drivers My card(according to windows) is a Atheros AR5007 802.11b/g WiFi adapter
[01:24] <rww> chiques: you might need to log out and back in for it to take effect.
[01:24] <chiques> bastid_raZor, Thanks, I didn't see dialout listed in the gui groups
[01:24] <ZykoticK9> je||y, i'd read all of that link, right down to the bottom - before you decide to reinstall your whole OS
[01:24] <matt__> rww: Yeah I figured it out. Thanks for the explanation.
[01:24] <weatherkid> rww: can i pm you?
[01:25] <chiques> bastid_raZor, rww OK. I just added that group and I'm logging out
[01:25] <rww> weatherkid: no. I don't know much about wireless cards, and keeping your questions in the channel has various benefits :)
[01:26] <weatherkid> rww: ok
[01:26] <Joeseph> Is there a command I can use to figure out the speed of my hard drive?
[01:26] <ruler> bastid_raZor : very very thanks
[01:26] <Joeseph> * as in how fast it reads and writes.
[01:26] <bastid_raZor> ruler, good luck
[01:26] <ZykoticK9> Joeseph, "man hdparm"
[01:27] <weatherkid> bastid_raZor: do you know anything about wifi cards?
[01:27] <matt> weatherkid: which one?
[01:27] <adnsku> how can i create many different users on ubuntu, and let them use the servet at the same time on its own configurations?
[01:28] <ZykoticK9> Joeseph, ie "sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda"
[01:28] <bastid_raZor> weatherkid, i have a webpage that might help.
[01:28] <chiques> rww, bastid_raZor I still get "cannot open /dev/tty0: Permission denied" How can I check to make sure I added the group correctly?
[01:28] <rww> chiques: That error message mentions tty0, not ttyS0. Are you mistyping somewhere?
[01:29] <bastid_raZor> weatherkid, http://madberry.org/2008/11/how-to-get-atheros-ar242x-to-work-on-810-intrepid-ibex/
[01:29] <JohnnyVbox> ""/root/.setup3225: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[01:29] <chiques> rww, Oh....I didn't notice that
[01:29] <JohnnyVbox> could someone gimme a hand here?
[01:29] <Joeseph> ZykoticK9: Thank you very much.     Man I want an ssd.
[01:29] <chiques> rww, I'll check the configuration again
[01:29] <weatherkid> ok, i'll look @ it
[01:29] <JohnnyVbox> [rww]: i got this "/root/.setup3225: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[01:29] <bastid_raZor> weatherkid, this worked for my AR242X Atheros card
[01:29] <JohnnyVbox> [rww]: could you gimme a hand?
[01:29] <je||y> could anyone tell me what the hell ppa is?
[01:30] <chiques> rww, You rock! That was the problem the whole time!!!
[01:30] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND!
[01:30] <JohnnyVbox> [rww]: gimme a hand?
[01:30] <ZykoticK9> Joeseph, actually the ssd in my eee is slower then my desktop SATA HD
[01:30] <JohnnyVbox> [je||y]: sorry for caps
[01:30] <ruler> i have autorun.inf in my pendrive it may affect my pc
[01:30] <rww> je||y: Personal Package Archive. They're like mini apt repositories for specific packages. They're also generally non-official.
[01:30] <david_> Hi all
[01:30] <rww> JohnnyVbox: Don't tell people to Google answers to their problems, please. It's rude and unhelpful.
[01:31] <JohnnyVbox> [rww]: i got a "/root/.setup3225: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" trying to install enemy territory... how do i fix
[01:31] <je||y> rww who makes these things?
[01:31] <JohnnyVbox> [rww]: sorry
[01:31] <david_> how can I make a certain program automatically run on start-up?
[01:31] <Joeseph> ZykoticK9: Really?  Oh well... All my hardware still has IDE.....   I have older stuff.
[01:31] <bastid_raZor> ruler, that file is for a windows.. it isn't needed for ubuntu
[01:31] <JohnnyVbox> [rww]: ill help next time.
[01:31] <rww> je||y: anyone with a Launchpad account (which anyone can create...) can.
[01:31] <graelin> anyone have any idea why a USB mouse would suddenly just stop? no rhyme or reason to it
[01:31] <jvainio> I have problems installing a package manually. Is there ANY WAY i can get apt-get to install my package????
[01:31] <rww> JohnnyVbox: Try installing the libgtk1.2 package
[01:31] <graelin> better yet.. how to fix?
[01:32] <ambient_> i've been trying to figure out what the interface's brand/model is behind its device name, i.e wlan0 is which NIC. I have three wireless cards. Anyone know a simple method?
[01:32] <ZykoticK9> jvainio, what package is it?
[01:32] <JohnnyVbox> [rww]: apt-get install libgkt1.2?
[01:32] <matt> graelin: batteries maybe?
[01:32] <JohnnyVbox> [graelin]: gremlins maybe?
[01:32] <graelin> its wired
[01:32] <jvainio> ZykoticK9: stone_soup-0.4.5-src
[01:32] <rww> JohnnyVbox: sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2
[01:32] <david_> how can I make a certain program automatically run on start-up?
[01:32] <rww> JohnnyVbox: I note that libgtk1.2 is scheduled to be removed from the next version of Ubuntu (Karmic).
[01:33] <rww> !startup | david_
[01:33] <JohnnyVbox> [rww]: impossible to find
[01:33] <ZykoticK9> jvainio, "...-src" means source, more complcated i think - gonna search for what this is
[01:33] <graelin> what is the io mechanism in Jaunty?
[01:33] <matt> graelin: was it unpluged on startup
[01:33] <jvainio> ZykoticK9: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=143991&package_id=204028
[01:33] <rww> JohnnyVbox: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:34] <JohnnyVbox> [rww]: jaunty
[01:34] <david_> rww: 10x :)
[01:34] <seedofc> ambient_: maybe there is something in 'ifconfig wlan0' that will correspond to an 'lspci' output?
[01:34] <jvainio> ZykoticK9: Its just that when i run make install, it says please give a DATADIR in Makefile.unix - which i go to specify, but still it doesnt want to install it. same error, no DATADIR given on line 228 of that file
[01:34] <ZykoticK9> jvainio, yup that is the source code you have there - no bin packages for you by the looks of things
[01:34] <graelin> no its plugged in... everything was great until I upgraded to jaunty.. now I have problems over the board, no useful info in the logs and no idea where to start
[01:34] <rww> JohnnyVbox: "sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2" works fine for me on Jaunty. Are you sure you typed it correctly? Do you have the universe repository enabled?
[01:35] <ZykoticK9> jvainio, did you run ./configure first?
[01:35] <jvainio> ZykoticK9: could you walk me thru this? Coz ive been playing that game for fucking 12 years lol
[01:35] <ZykoticK9> jvainio, and make after ./configure
[01:35] <bastid_raZor> !compile > jvainio
[01:35] <ambient_> I've tried matching anything that ifconfig gives me, ifconfig only gives irq/iomem addresses for ethX interfaces.
[01:35] <jvainio> ZykoticK9: ./configure where, in the dir where all the makefiles etc are? it says no configure
[01:35] <JohnnyVbox> [rww]: worked as a charm
[01:35] <gordonjcp> JohnnyVbox: what on earth are you trying to run?
[01:36] <JohnnyVbox> [gordonjcp]: wolfenstein: enemy territory
[01:36] <ZykoticK9> jvainio, sorry man after your language you need to find someone else to help you.  good luck.
[01:36] <JohnnyVbox> [gordonjcp]: BEST classic evah
[01:36] <epalm> i don't want gnome's file browser to display preview icons of movie files.  how can i prevent this?
[01:36] <rww> JohnnyVbox: by the way, "rww:" highlights in more clients than "[rww]:". Try tab-completion if you aren't already :)
[01:36] <rww> !tab | JohnnyVbox
[01:36] <jvainio> ZykoticK9: I am very sorry, could you help me please?
[01:37] <JohnnyVbox> [rww]: ok
[01:37] <JohnnyVbox> rww like this?
[01:37] <seedofc> ambient_: does dmesg show anything?
[01:37] <chiques> ./
[01:37] <gordonjcp> JohnnyVbox: don't do that square-bracket thing, it doesn't highlight my nick and it makes it hard to track when you reply
[01:37] <seedofc> ambient_: dmesg | grep wlan0
[01:37] <gordonjcp> JohnnyVbox: I must admit, I haven't installed ET since installing jaunty
[01:37] <killfill> hi
[01:37] <ambient_> doesnt show anything interesting
[01:38] <JohnnyVbox> [gordonjcp]: et rocks!
[01:38] <killfill> how do i monitor the temperature of my ATOM cpu?
[01:38] <rww> epalm: You can change some preview icon settings in Nautilus preferences (Edit > Preferences > Preview). I'm not sure how to do it if you /just/ want to stop movie files (rather than all "other previewable files".
[01:38] <gordonjcp> JohnnyVbox: fail installer is made of fail
[01:38] <mil> zzxscxcvxvbvnbmyjhuy
[01:38] <ambient_> lsof didnt function when I try to grep for wlan0
[01:38] <JohnnyVbox> [gordonjcp]: win installer is made of win, i am installing it
[01:38] <seedofc> ambient_: I don't have a wlan0, but I have an eth0 and I was able to run that command and get the chipset/model (RTL8168b/8111b)
[01:38] <graelin> epalm: try ubuntu-tweak from getdeb.com
[01:38] <ambient_> I know it, worked for the ethx interfaces
[01:38] <JohnnyVbox> gordonjcp you should say fail user is made of fail, as i am nooby lol
[01:38] <rww> killfill: lm-sensors is the normal way of measuring CPU temperature, but I'm not sure whether the version of it in Ubuntu supports Atoms. I'll link you the install guide so you can try.
[01:38] <ambient_> thanks anyhow
[01:38] <rww> !lm-sensors | killfill
[01:39] <gordonjcp> JohnnyVbox: no, it shouldn't require a package that old
[01:39] <grkblood13> is there a way to script a .txt of all metadata?
[01:39] <gordonjcp> JohnnyVbox: that gtk package was thoroughly obsolete even when ET was newly released
[01:39] <epalm> rww: other previewable files is "local files only, less than 10mb", however i have movie files on a mounted drive (not local) which are certainly larger than 10mb taking a few seconds each to display previews for
[01:39] <gordonjcp> JohnnyVbox: what's really going to get on your wick is ET *requires* OSS audio
[01:39] <JohnnyVbox> [gordonjcp]: yeah....
[01:40] <gordonjcp> JohnnyVbox: and that has been obsolete for over a decade
[01:40] <JohnnyVbox> gordonjcp there is a patch for that
[01:40] <rww> epalm: how are they mounted?
[01:40] <JohnnyVbox> gordonjcp google it that you WILL find it
[01:40] <chiques> chiques,
[01:40] <JohnnyVbox> what's signal 11?
[01:40] <tik> i need help with resolution for my ps3, some one please help
[01:40] <epalm> rww: what are you asking here.  they're mounted.
[01:40] <gordonjcp> JohnnyVbox: I needed to faff about with my soundcards to get it to work, ensuring that I had a cheap and crappy onboard sound card as the first device
[01:41] <epalm> rww: via fstab, if that's what you're asking
[01:41] <gordonjcp> JohnnyVbox: OSS is incapable of dealing with anything other than a single stereo soundcard, and quite comprehensively cacks itself if you try to use a modern card
[01:41] <tik> i need help with resolution for my ps3, some one please help
[01:41] <rww> epalm: yes, it was. I'm not too familiar with network-mounted stuff, but it's possible GNOME isn't detecting it as non-local because it's mounted through fstab instead of it's volume manager.
[01:41] <JohnnyVbox> [gordonjcp]: lol, there is a patch to make it work with alsa drivers......
[01:41] <epalm> rww: moot point, they're larger than 10mb anyways
[01:42] <tik> i need help with resolution for my ps3, some one please help
[01:42] <tik> i need help with resolution for my ps3, some one please help
[01:42] <tik> i need help with resolution for my ps3, some one please help
[01:42] <FloodBot3> tik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:42] <gordonjcp> !repeat | tik
[01:42] <weatherkid> tik: we are not a PlayStation support channel
[01:42] <weatherkid> tik: we are not a PlayStation support channel
[01:42] <rww> epalm: good point. Does changing it to "Never" help?
[01:42] <epalm> rww: yes
[01:42] <bastid_raZor> !ps3 | tik
[01:43] <rww> epalm: It's possible that Nautilus isn't detecting the file size correctly either, then. It's not the best at working with network mounts.
[01:43]  * rww used to use it with sshfs, ended up just using scp instead
[01:43] <Silverguy> is there something like http://www.ipi.fi/~rainy/legacy.html that for ubuntu?
[01:43] <tik> thank u
[01:44] <IamSOG> So basically everything in /home/userA  are the stuff of UserA ?
[01:44] <rww> IamSOG: theoretically, yes
[01:44] <ZykoticK9> Silverguy, check http://www.screenlets.org there are many apps like the link you sent
[01:45] <IamSOG> I see.. rww then.. if I copy userA to userB, then these two account should becomes the same ?
[01:45] <Silverguy> awesome thanks
[01:45] <Silverguy> i <3 ubuntu
[01:45] <graelin> IamSOG: not necessarily... you'd have to change ownership/permissions on the files
[01:46] <rww> IamSOG: that's probably not a good idea. It's likely that various configuration files refer to /home/userA, and files outside of the home directory (like stuff in /tmp/ and /var/) won't be copied over. And there's a myriad of potential permissions problems...
[01:46] <Linn27> godkänd camtjej endast seriösa betalning med payex add mig   sexymian32 l i v e . s e
[01:46] <Linn27> godkänd camtjej endast seriösa betalning med payex add mig   sexymian32 l i v e . s e
[01:46] <dtolj> Does anybody know Why I cant check this out from sourceforege, its TidyHTML: cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@tidy.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/tidy login
[01:46] <Linn27> godkänd camtjej endast seriösa betalning med payex add mig   sexymian32 l i v e . s e
[01:46] <FloodBot3> Linn27: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:46] <IamSOG> Oic... um.. thanks guys, I have been trying to figure out how to clone a account, so I don't have to set up everything again
[01:47] <dxdemetriou> I'm using Jaunty and after of upgrade I have issues while I'm writing. Some key on random cases it stays pressed and I don't know how to search for a solution. One it stayed pressed the del key on Thunderbird deleting many of my emails and another time the enter key on Openoffice
[01:47] <thelaugh2ngmime> What is a good DVD / CD burining utility ? I want something like nero or Alchol 120% to burn ISOs
[01:47] <bastid_raZor> dxdemetriou, dirty keyboard?
[01:48] <bastid_raZor> thelaugh1ngmime, for gnome brasero for kde k3b
[01:48] <ZykoticK9> thelaugh1ngmime, check out k3b probably the most feature rich burning app under linux
[01:48] <matt> imageburn
[01:48] <Conic> On Linux, or anything
[01:48] <Conic> ?
[01:48] <thelaugh2ngmime> i actually would like to have compatibilty with .nrg and Alcohol file types
[01:48] <dxdemetriou> bastid_raZor, I don't think. My laptop is dual boot and I tried it also with live csd
[01:48] <Conic> Windows, imgburn. Linux, brasero.
[01:48] <mrwes> thelaugh1ngmime, burning iso's is built into Ubuntu
[01:48] <graelin> thelaugh2ngmime: try acetone130
[01:48] <Conic> Through brasero.
[01:49] <thelaugh2ngmime> Thanks
[01:49] <ewsubach> what command lists what each tty is connected to?
[01:49] <ZykoticK9> thelaugh1ngmime, you might run into some problems with Alcohol files - i curse that program
[01:49] <graelin> growisofs
[01:49] <thelaugh2ngmime> Conic , Why would i be in here askig about any thing?
[01:49] <mrwes> +1 for growisofs :)
[01:49] <rww> thelaugh2ngmime: it's easier to convert .nrg to .iso and then burn the .iso in whatever, if I remember correctly. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-convert-a-nrg-nero-file-to-a-iso-file-in-ubuntu.html
[01:49] <thelaugh2ngmime> isnt this a ubuntu chat room?
[01:49] <Conic> Oh right
[01:49] <mrwes> da best .
[01:49] <thelaugh2ngmime> !ot
[01:49] <Conic> Lol, I thought this was a different room, whoops.
[01:50] <Conic> Sorry. :/
[01:50] <thelaugh2ngmime> lol its ok... i get yelled at every day for going off on off topics
[01:50] <thelaugh2ngmime> lol
[01:50] <mrwes> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=dvd.iso
[01:50] <thelaugh2ngmime> so how about them white sox ?
[01:50] <thelaugh2ngmime> j/k
[01:50] <Jordan_U> dxdemetriou: How reproducable is it? Enough that you could do some tests ( with xev for instance ) when it happens?
[01:50] <Jordan_U> thelaugh2ngmime: brasero ( the default in 9.04 ) is great
[01:50] <mrwes> Jordan_U, it is?.....shrug
[01:50] <ruler> i want to know code for using terminal where i can get it
[01:51] <dxdemetriou> it's similar to this without compiz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/linux/+bug/124406
[01:51] <thelaugh2ngmime> Jordan_u , Thanks i will give that a try
[01:51] <rww> !terminal | ruler
[01:51] <ewsubach> what command lists what each tty is connected to?
[01:51] <bastid_raZor> ruler, also check out http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/bashref/
[01:51] <mrwes> ewsubach, who ?
[01:51] <rww> ewsubach: who -a
[01:52] <mrwes> rww, ok -a too :)
[01:52] <Jordan_U> thelaugh2ngmime: np
[01:52] <cjae> does klamav need to be told how to open archives?
[01:52] <JohnnyVbox> HELP! i am getting "Received signal 11,exiting" on q3 engine based games
[01:52] <pizzledizzle> i have a mce remote that acts as a keyboard. is there a way to remap buttons on a specific input device?
[01:52] <ewsubach> mrwes: sweet, thanks
[01:52] <mrwes> danada
[01:52] <dxdemetriou> Jordan_U, how can I try to find the problem with xev? It becomes on random time with different key. I started to think if it's something with touchpad but I'm not sure
[01:52] <cjae> does klamav need to be told how to open archives?    http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVQguF0
[01:52] <ZykoticK9> JohnnyVbox, are you trying to run Quake 3 in a virtual machine?
[01:52] <cjae> sorry for repost
[01:52] <JohnnyVbox> [ZykoticK9]: hell yeah
[01:53] <nibbler> JohnnyVbox: why would you do that?
[01:53] <JohnnyVbox> [ZykoticK9]: i got opengl ok, sound ok
[01:53] <CoBaY> happy
[01:53] <CoBaY> i am sad
[01:53] <JohnnyVbox> [nibbler]: just testing where i can got with my machine
[01:53] <CoBaY> :'(
[01:53] <JohnnyVbox> this issue also happends with real users
[01:53] <JohnnyVbox> i mean, on real machines
[01:54] <bastid_raZor> i have yet to see a virtual machine do well with 3d graphics
[01:54] <CoBaY> no speak english
[01:54] <rww> CoBaY: language?
[01:54] <ambient_> anyone's concern; an lshw showed the mac mapped to the nic's brand name and kernel module. Compared the mac from lshw to ifconfig's mac listing and wala
[01:54] <CoBaY> fr
[01:54] <rww> !fr | CoBaY
[01:54] <Pici> CoBaY: You're already in #ubuntu-fr...
[01:54] <CoBaY> no
[01:54] <Pici> yes
[01:54] <Jordan_U> dxdemetriou: If you can reproduce it it might be revealing to see what keycodes X is getting, for instance if it's getting one keypress and no key release or if it's a bouncing problem with keypress,keyrease,keypress
[01:54] <CoBaY> no
[01:55] <JohnnyVbox> bastid_raZor pushing the virtual machines to the edge
[01:55] <CoBaY> ass ?
[01:55] <Jordan_U> dxdemetriou: But with xev the xev window would have to be in focus so you couldn't use other apps while testing
[01:56] <matt__> CakePHP's PHP template files have the extension CTP. Is there a way to automatically use the PHP Highlight mode for CTP files in gedit?
[01:56] <hippo> Does somedbody know how to change xfce4-terminal default size ?
[01:57] <dxdemetriou> Jordan_U, Yes, I saw it. I'll try and see. It's sure that it's the "key release" the problem. the only way to stop sending the same key it's to lock screen and then unlock
[01:57] <CoBaY> non kick
[01:57] <CoBaY> please
[01:57] <Gourlis> Back to Ubuntu 9.04 !!! - Because Ubuntu 8.04 LTS every 5-6 hours does not response to me :P
[01:57] <Jordan_U> dxdemetriou: Really, hitting the key again doesn't stop it?
[01:57] <The_Mime> i still cant belive how crazy fast Ubuntu runs on my system
[01:58] <Pici> CoBaY: This is a support channel, please treat it like one
[01:58] <dxdemetriou> Jordan_U, yes
[01:58] <Gourlis> dxdemetriou, ti exeis re file esi ?
[01:58] <whazilla> why does my laptop randomly overgeatea and reveins reboots  ... madness !!! the heat !
[01:58] <Pici> !english
[01:59] <whazilla> fuckogg
[01:59] <Gourlis> ok Pici
[01:59] <tritium> whazilla: watch your language.
[01:59] <whazilla> :)
[01:59] <CoBaY> I try to learn English :)
[01:59] <matt__> lol
[01:59] <Pici> whazilla: Please mind your language
[01:59] <Gourlis> I'm hungry
[02:00] <whazilla> hoho ho N better ?
[02:00] <LjL> !ot | Gourlis
[02:00] <killfill> how do i reconfigure a package with apt?
[02:00] <Jordan_U> dxdemetriou: Do you have another keyboard you can test with?
[02:00] <LjL> killfill: sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename
[02:00] <dxdemetriou> Gourlis, prospa8w na bgalw akrh gia poio logo menei magkwmeno kapoio tyxaio key san grafw, pou symbainei synh8ws otan xrhsimopoiw arrow keys kai touchpad
[02:00] <The_Mime> can some one send me a link to a WORKING samba configuration?
[02:00] <whazilla> Pici why does hardy overheat my laptop and reboos N?N
[02:00] <killfill> thanks!
[02:00] <LjL> !gr | dxdemetriou
[02:01] <mrwes> The_Mime, the default one doesn't work?
[02:01] <The_Mime> cause i am lost i cant seem to get it to work at all .. i am able to see the linux pc on the network but i cannot connect to to to see the shared files
[02:01] <Gourlis> LjL, we got it.
[02:01] <The_Mime> no it didnt work at all
[02:01] <matt__> Is there a way to automatically use the PHP Highlight mode for CTP files in gedit?
[02:01] <LjL> Gourlis: then show that you do
[02:01] <dxdemetriou> Jordan_U, I haven't try it yet. I forgot to say that in the most cases the problem happens when I'm using arrow keys and the touchpad.
[02:01] <The_Mime> i know the IP stuff was all jacked up but i eventually was able to set that correctly now i can see the pc but i just cant connect
[02:01] <dxdemetriou> sorry for the greekleech :)
[02:02] <whazilla> whenever i run john or any toolchain then my laptop reboots into hell
[02:02] <whazilla> what could i try about ut ?
[02:03] <fryguy> whazilla: make sure all of the fans are operating correctly so that it doesn't overheat
[02:03] <whazilla> one ontop of keyb below screen
[02:03] <Gourlis> LjL, what do you say about Ubuntu 8.04 LTS ? Should other users stay on that edition or upgrade forward ?
[02:03] <whazilla> but dusty and wet :p
[02:03] <graelin> The_Mime: is samba installed on the linux box
[02:03] <whazilla> i dont wanne open it
[02:03] <fryguy> Gourlis: take a look at the changelog, determine if it has anything of value to you, and if so, upgrade.  If not, stay where you are
[02:03] <matt__> whazilla: Don't sit it on a pillow in your lap ;-)
[02:03] <rww> dusty and wet... on a computer... sounds like a recipe for disaster.
[02:03] <whazilla> i'll kill the machine (laptop) and cause another revolt of the machines
[02:03] <LjL> Gourlis: that strongly depends on their needs. 8.04, being LTS, is more suited to users who prefer not to upgrade too often, and aim for stability.
[02:04] <fryguy> whazilla: so then send it to a professional to take care of it for you
[02:04] <whazilla> i cant
[02:04] <whazilla> its the heat
[02:04] <Gourlis> fryguy, what version do you have? I'm asking because I had problems with 8.04
[02:04] <The_Mime> :)
[02:04] <fryguy> Gourlis: i don't use ubuntu
[02:04] <Gourlis> LjL, I think am the only one who had problems with no response on 8.04
[02:04] <The_Mime> Samba is installed and 90% configured i know i am just missing one thing
[02:04] <The_Mime> not to sure what it is tho
[02:05] <weatherkid> bastid_raZor: Hey, is there a offline way to download BuildEssentials
[02:06] <The_Mime> http://pastebin.com/f17c13e9
[02:06] <matt> lol
[02:06] <The_Mime> thats what i am rolling with
[02:06] <bastid_raZor> weatherkid, if you're offline how can you download anything.
[02:06] <weatherkid> Public Library
[02:06] <weatherkid> :P
[02:06] <ZykoticK9> The_Mime, "Warez" classic ;)
[02:07] <The_Mime> lol
[02:07] <The_Mime> i have 4.5 TB of goods
[02:07] <The_Mime> i want to get it back on my network
[02:07] <rww> weatherkid: what version of Ubuntu are you using, and is it 32-bit or 64-bit?
[02:07] <The_Mime> 64
[02:07] <Jordan_U> weatherkid: Select build-essential in synaptic then choose file > create package download script That will get you a file containing all of the URLs of the packages
[02:07] <weatherkid> rww: 8.04.2 x32
[02:08] <The_Mime> Ubuntu x64 8GB DDR2 1066 OC to 1200 EVGA 8800 ULTRA QX6700 @ 2.7 (stock speed)  5 TB total storage
[02:09] <rww> weatherkid: assuming LjL's shiny thing still works, http://jussi01.com/ljl/?repo=Hardy&arch=i386&package=build-essential&have=ubuntu-desktop or Jordan_U's suggestion or "apt-get --print-uris install build-essential"
[02:09] <Classic> ZykoticK9, yes?
[02:09] <JohnnyVbox> hey
[02:09] <JohnnyVbox> i can't get to run wolfenstein enemy territory, i keep getting "recieved signal 11, exiting..."
[02:09] <The_Mime> it runs ubu like a PCP NINJA  beating up the police
[02:09] <ZykoticK9> Classic, sorry man - was just using the word "classic" didn't mean to call you
[02:10] <LjL> !offtopic | rww please use this url instead
[02:10] <LjL> rww: err, wrong factoid...
[02:10] <Classic> ZykoticK9, ok :)
[02:10] <Pici> !offline
[02:10] <LjL> !offline > rww    (rww, see the private message from ubottu)
[02:10] <rww> LjL: ah, okay. apologies
[02:10] <Classic> Anyone knows how to carve files from usb thumb drive?
[02:10] <The_Mime> So any ideas on how i can get my goods back on my network?
[02:10]  * rww stores that factoid for future regurgitation
[02:10] <Jordan_U> Classic: Carve?
[02:11] <The_Mime> i am freaking out over here ... i just want samba to work so i can map some network drives
[02:11] <Classic> Jordan_U, hm... if you delete a file, you might be able to recover it.... its called file carving
[02:12] <Jordan_U> Classic: What file system?
[02:12] <rww> !recover | Classic
[02:12] <The_Mime> compiz runs like a champ @1680x1050
[02:12] <DIL> !xxd |classic
[02:12] <Classic> Jordan_U, fat system on flash drive
[02:13] <Classic> thanks rww
[02:13] <Classic> DIL, whats xxd/
[02:13] <DIL> Classic: Autopsy is in the repos
[02:13] <Classic> DIL, gui or console?
[02:14] <DIL> Classic: Autopsy gui
[02:14] <Classic> Im currently trying out scalpel, but no luck with freshly deleted files
[02:14] <Classic> cool, thanks DIL
[02:16] <mayer> hi
[02:17] <mayer> twilight
[02:17] <niadh> hey, i have a question about evolution locations, why in the last two releases have the towns and cities closest to me just stopped appearing? I live in the UK near York, and this was once available to me for weather information, but no longer, is there a package of extras i may need to install to restore this?
[02:17] <mayer> download twilight
[02:17] <rww> !ot | mayer
[02:17] <Pici> !piracy
[02:17] <mayer> ok
[02:18] <rww> mayer: also, this is not a file-sharing channel (and neither is any other channel on this network)
[02:18] <mayer> ok, excuse me
[02:19] <mayer> ok, now i go
[02:19] <mayer> good bye
[02:19] <Ninja2k> later
[02:20] <Stram> i want to detect a usb stick help me please?
[02:20] <Mister_Blood> hey everybody, I think I may have contracted some malware on Ubuntu 9.04 . I was surfing, and suddenly a download window came up for a pdf file and I thought I hit cancel, but it seems to have downloaded to my /tmp directory. When I opened the directory there were several things there that looked dodgy but I don't know for certain.
[02:20] <Ninja2k> lsusb
[02:20] <fryguy> Mister_Blood: you didn't
[02:20] <benwah_> suh
[02:21] <Mister_Blood> fryguy: when I tried to pop a terminal, it didn't start
[02:21] <niadh> Mister_Blood: Due to the os design of Linux malware is limit to laboratories trying to see if itś possible or badly modified routers, itś highly unlikely you will have malware
[02:21] <DIL> what is the name application that displays system info on the desktop? thanks
[02:21] <fryguy> "pop a terminal"?
[02:21] <niadh> Mister_Blood: If you press alt+f2 does a run dialog appear?
[02:21] <lapwook> I am trying to format an external harddrive in NTFS in gparted but found out i need a package to be able to do so (the option is greyed out
[02:22] <lapwook> what package do i need to download to format NTFS in gparted
[02:22] <Mister_Blood> niadh: it does now after a reset
[02:22] <ZykoticK9> DIL, do you mean roottail ?
[02:22] <Mister_Blood> niadh: *restart
[02:22] <niadh> Mister_Blood: And is it ubuntu, or kubuntu you are running?
[02:22] <Ninja2k> stupid question, but have you tried to reboot to make sure it wasn't an issue with your x-server
[02:22] <Mister_Blood> niadh: ubuntu
[02:22] <Ninja2k> nvm
[02:23] <niadh> Mister_Blood: Type ǵnome-terminal´ into the run dialog without the quotes, does a terminal appear?
[02:23] <rww> lapwook: ntfsprogs
[02:23] <lapwook> thanks
[02:23] <ZykoticK9> DIL, conky or gkrellm ?
[02:23] <DIL> ZykoticK9: don t sound familiar was told about it but forgot the name
[02:23] <DIL> conky Thats it
[02:24] <pizzledizzle> i have 2 keyboards attached to my pc, i want to remap keys on one. how do i do that
[02:24] <DIL> ZykoticK9: TY !!!
[02:24] <Mister_Blood> niadh: yes, the terminal opens now, but in /tmp there's a protected directory called pulse-PKdhtXMmr18n as well as several others that keep regenerating on reboot
[02:24] <jschoolcraft> is there a good, gui IRC client for linux noobs?  I'd say irssi if it wasn't targeted to the n00b.
[02:24] <rocky> I am using ubuntu 9.04, and can't get my microphone to work. I know this is a common problem with the ALSA driver, and am wondering if any fix has been made?
[02:25] <niadh> Mister_Blood: Pulse looks like itś to do with the sound system ;)
[02:25] <ZykoticK9> Mister_Blood, that's from Pulse audio - part of the system
[02:25] <jdu> jschoolcraft: xchat
[02:25] <rww> jschoolcraft: xchat works fine for me.
[02:25] <rww> jschoolcraft: (not xchat-gnome, which doesn't work fine for me)
[02:25] <jschoolcraft> xchat the shareware product?
[02:25] <rocky> xchat is opensource
[02:25] <rww> jschoolcraft: it's not shareware on Linux, only Windows.
[02:25] <jschoolcraft> shareware on windows at least
[02:25] <jschoolcraft> rww: ahh, k, thanks
[02:26] <rocky> there are some builds of it that people have made that are free
[02:26] <Mister_Blood> also an ssh-PtmOMq3255 folder
[02:26] <fryguy> rocky: a project being opensource doesn't exclude it from being shareware
[02:26] <niadh> Mister_Blood: In Linux /tmp is obviously the tempory directory, and itś cleaned on shutdown, but some programs that start up do need to store data there in order to run correctly, rest assured anything there is most likely supposed to be there
[02:26] <fryguy> Mister_Blood: everything in there is normal
[02:26] <ZykoticK9> Mister_Blood, that's ssh - again part of the system
[02:27] <Mister_Blood> thanks, I understand it's probably just paranoia.
[02:27] <Mister_Blood> I appreciate you guys' patience
[02:27] <jdu> Mister_Blood: unless you don't use ssh
[02:27] <jdu> but I missed the background here
[02:27] <PcGamer> Hello, do i need admin privelleges in order to create a live cd with unetbootin?
[02:27] <Jordan_U> lapwook: ntfsprogs
[02:27] <JohnnyVbox> i need help
[02:27] <niadh> Mister_Blood: Itś quite alright, glad your questions were able to be answered.
[02:27] <Mister_Blood> I do, but when I googled the "agent.3255" it looked like malware
[02:27] <JohnnyVbox> enemy territory quits with signal 11
[02:27] <JohnnyVbox> and i get no errors at all
[02:28] <rww> Jordan_U: little late there ;)
[02:28] <fryguy> Mister_Blood: for the most part there is no such thing as "malware" in *nix based systems
[02:28] <ZykoticK9> JohnnyVbox, stop trying to run game in VMs - problem solved
[02:28] <lapwook> Jordan_U: i got my answer all ready but thanks :)
[02:28] <JohnnyVbox> [ZykoticK9]: i got full opengl... why cant i?
[02:28] <PcGamer> .Hello, do i need admin privelleges in order to create a live cd with unetbootin?
[02:29] <niadh> Mister_Blood: It is possible the malware downloaded, but its not possible for the malware to actually run under linux, tis like a fish catching swine flu, just doesnt affect it
[02:29] <Mister_Blood> gotcha
[02:29] <JohnnyVbox> yeah joke with people's suffering
[02:29] <Jordan_U> PcGamer: To create a live USB drive, yes
[02:29] <PcGamer> :'(
[02:30] <PcGamer> Jordan_U: is there anyway to do it on XP guest account?
[02:30] <niadh> I wasn joking, i was using a topical metaphor to illustrate a point.
[02:30] <jdu> JohnnyVbox: signal 11 generally indicates something is wrong with the program itself
[02:30] <lapwook> Jordan_U: is it normal for a 1TB drive to format pretty much instantly? or am I used to old hardware :)
[02:30] <PcGamer> lol
[02:30] <JohnnyVbox> [jdu]: yeah....
[02:30] <Jordan_U> PcGamer: Actually I may be wrong
[02:30] <PcGamer> :O
[02:30] <fryguy> lapwook: creating a filesytem is pretty much instantaneous on any hardware
[02:30] <JohnnyVbox> [jdu]: so.. i got no luck?
[02:30] <ZykoticK9> jdu, JohnnyVbox was getting sig11 for quake 3 too - it's cause it's running in a VM
[02:30] <jdu> JohnnyVbox: in otherwords, it is trying to access memory it's not allowed to or some similar opporation
[02:30] <PcGamer> well when i set my bios to boot from usb drive, it says Disk error press any key to restart
[02:31] <PcGamer> then it starts XP and XP checks the disk
[02:31] <rww> lapwook: Depends on which type of format it did. NTFS has two different types, and the one that's usually used is pretty dang quick.
[02:31] <jdu> JohnnyVbox: probably you are triggering a bug that is causing it to have a segmentation fault ... which is why linux sends signal 11 to it
[02:31] <lapwook> rww it's a 1tb NAS
[02:31] <ZykoticK9> rww, the ONLY difference between a windows Quick format and Full - is full formats then runs a check disk
[02:31] <JohnnyVbox> [jdu]: i get a RE_Shutdown ( 1 )
[02:32] <JohnnyVbox> [jdu]: then Recieved signal 11, exiting...
[02:32] <PcGamer> Jordan_U: do u know how to?
[02:32] <JohnnyVbox> [jdu]: but NO errors at all
[02:32] <rww> ZykoticK9: right, and a disk check on 1TB would take forever. Overwriting the MFT... not so much.
[02:32] <niadh> Does anyone know why locations that used to be detected by gnome/evolution calendar are no longer present?
[02:32] <JohnnyVbox> [jdu]: the game starts running and i see the black screen wich means that et is running
[02:32] <jdu> JohnnyVbox:   http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/
[02:33] <bastid_raZor> JohnnyVbox, maybe you should be asking in the #vmware or #vbox
[02:33] <jdu> JohnnyVbox: that's about compiling kernel but gives similar idea
[02:33] <JohnnyVbox> [bastid_raZor]: yeah
[02:34] <PcGamer> meow?
[02:34] <ZykoticK9> JohnnyVbox, just as an FYI (and not to encourage you) i did get OpenArena running quite well in a VirtualBox VM
[02:34] <rww> PcGamer: hi
[02:34] <rocky> here is the lspci.... http://pastie.org/494661
[02:34] <rocky> I can't get my microphone to work
[02:34] <JohnnyVbox> [ZykoticK9]: ubuntu right?
[02:35] <fryguy> why not just run quake in native linux?
[02:35] <PcGamer> rww: i installed ubuntu 9.0.4 with unetbootin and when i set my bios to boot from usb, it says disk error press any key to restart
[02:35] <ZykoticK9> fryguy, in JohnnyVbox's case i think it would be native Windows
[02:35] <PcGamer> and then goes to windows XP, got any ideas how to fix?
[02:35] <JohnnyVbox> i am just testing stuff
[02:35] <JohnnyVbox> i know now that ogl is fine
[02:36] <fryguy> ZykoticK9: why? he's running linux as the host OS
[02:36] <JohnnyVbox> but i WANT to make this work for benchmark's sake
[02:36] <rww> PcGamer: 1) it's 9.04, 2) Did you format the USB stick first? I think I had that problem and it fixed it.
[02:36] <ZykoticK9> fryguy, are you sure about that
[02:36] <fryguy> ZykoticK9: yes
[02:36] <JohnnyVbox> fryguy actually youre wrong, i am running xp as host
[02:36] <PcGamer> thats the thing
[02:36] <PcGamer> on XP guest account.
[02:36] <PcGamer> sigh, now i gotta wait for my sis to get off the crappy pc to format it
[02:36] <rocky> huh
[02:37] <fryguy> JohnnyVbox: so you are running ubuntu in a virtual machine and trying to run quake in native linux in a virtual machine?
[02:37] <ZykoticK9> fryguy, yup
[02:37] <JohnnyVbox> fryguy yeah
[02:37]  * rocky stupidly assumed his microphone wouldn't work in 9.04 like how it didn't work in 8.10
[02:37] <fryguy> ZykoticK9: and what exactly are you benchmarking?
[02:37] <ZykoticK9> fryguy, sorry?
[02:37] <JohnnyVbox> fryguy i am benching cpu stuff
[02:37] <rww> fryguy: how much time he can waste with virtual machines and unnecessary problems
[02:37] <JohnnyVbox> rww you got the point lol
[02:38] <Jordan_U> PcGamer: Looks like you need admin privaleges to install syslinux ( the bootloader ) https://bugs.launchpad.net/unetbootin/+bug/325786
[02:38] <JohnnyVbox> rww actually i am changing to linux as i get a new harddrive
[02:38] <JohnnyVbox> rww so i am getting ready to anything that might appear
[02:38] <JohnnyVbox> rww actually i learned alot with that already
[02:38] <fryguy> JohnnyVbox: so you have a native linux environment to work with, just run strace and go through the code and see what is causing sigsegv
[02:38] <nguyendinhmanh> hi
[02:38] <Jordan_U> PcGamer: Is there no other computer you can use?
[02:39] <rww> JohnnyVbox: Ubuntu on Virtualbox is very different from Ubuntu on actual hardware, in terms of compatibility...
[02:39] <JohnnyVbox> fryguy you just fried my head
[02:39] <JohnnyVbox> rww yeah, but i already learned alot about linux distros, wich one is easier, getting and installing kernel / kernel devel packages
[02:39] <JohnnyVbox> installing stuff
[02:40] <fryguy> JohnnyVbox: lol
[02:40] <JohnnyVbox> and i also fooled with some shell coding
[02:40] <neoTheCat> hello.  i just setup dual monitors, each with it's own X session.  but when i try to open up firefox in each X session, the second one says i can't
[02:40] <neoTheCat> does anyone know how i can?
[02:41] <fryguy> neoTheCat: log in as a different user in each X session
[02:41] <rww> neoTheCat: or use different firefox profiles with each session
[02:41] <fryguy> the more correct answer is to just run 1 xsession, there's really no reason to run X11 2x
[02:42] <neoTheCat> fryguy:  for me there is.  i will try the profiles suggestion
[02:42] <JohnnyVbox> run 1 x with 1 desktop each monitor
[02:42] <fryguy> neoTheCat: why not just run 1 X session that uses both monitors?
[02:42] <rww> neoTheCat: "firefox -profilemanager" is the GUI for that, if I remember correctly.
[02:43] <FUbbyCD> hey
[02:43] <eseven73> !away > bgupta|away
[02:43] <jdu> one might want to use different window managers etc.
[02:43] <FUbbyCD> question , how do i install xp back without fully overwriting ubuntu
[02:43] <neoTheCat> fryguy:  i do not want one giant desktop, so i thought i had to do the 2 X sessions, instead of something like twinview
[02:43] <FUbbyCD> i hear xp does not play nice
[02:43] <fryguy> neoTheCat: what you want is xinerama
[02:44] <fryguy> jdu: that's a pretty silly reason
[02:44] <rww> FUbbyCD: I've used http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm to do it in the past.
[02:44] <mib_36i8pz> greetings!
[02:44] <neoTheCat> fryguy: okalee dokalee.  i will give that a try.
[02:44] <fryguy> FUbbyCD: you put a windows boot cd in and run fixmbr
[02:44] <jdu> fryguy: hey, I bet someone's done it
[02:44] <FUbbyCD> thanks
[02:44] <ZykoticK9> fryguy, not it isn't xinerama is one big screen, i think neoTheCat knows what he wants
[02:44] <fryguy> jdu: i'm sure somebody has as well, which is why i said "almost no reason"
[02:44] <fryguy> ZykoticK9: xinerama is most definetely NOT one big screen, unless the window manager you are using is treating it incorrectly
[02:45] <fryguy> ZykoticK9: i run xinerama on my dual screen setup and can control the contents of each screen individually
[02:45] <neoTheCat> i'll look up xinerama on the internets
[02:45] <FUbbyCD> i really hate closed source corporate crap.. I love ubuntu but I cant get any professional quality DAWs like Cubase, fruity loops, or logic pro
[02:45] <neoTheCat> from the wikipedia: Xinerama is an extension to the X Window System which enables multi-headed X applications and window managers to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display.
[02:45] <Er1K> any sed experts out there....any idea how I can replace all occurrences of two or more spaces with ONE tab?
[02:45] <neoTheCat> so that's not what i want
[02:46] <v3xed> hey, all @_:D
[02:46] <ZykoticK9> fryguy, read the first line of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinerama
[02:46] <Pici> Er1K: s/\ {2,}/\t/g
[02:46] <fryguy> Er1K: try something like 's/  ?/^I/g
[02:47] <fryguy> ZykoticK9: read the rest of the article, and take some time to actually set up a xinerama configuration and use it with a window manager that correctly supports the extension
[02:47] <fryguy> ZykoticK9: note the references to 'active physical display'
[02:47] <ZykoticK9> fryguy, i don't want to argue with you
[02:47] <neoTheCat> so i guess there is no way to start two firefoxes in different X sessions with the same profile?
[02:48] <tiniwinibiti> j #Dalnet
[02:48] <fryguy> neoTheCat: no, because of the locking semantics that firefox uses on the filesystem it's not capable of sharing files with different processes
[02:48] <rww> neoTheCat: no, Firefox gets whiny about the possibility of two different instances writing to one profile.
[02:48] <ZykoticK9> neoTheCat, i never found a way - when i had the same setup as you i used firefox in one sessions and mozilla/opera in the other
[02:48] <Ron586> made it back.. yhea
[02:49] <neoTheCat> that's really annoying, but oh well.  thanks for your help.
[02:49] <fryguy> neoTheCat: just set up X11 correctly and you won't have any problems
[02:49] <ZykoticK9> neoTheCat, if you do switch to a Xinerama/Twinview setup then you can have Firefox open on both monitors
[02:49] <RProgrammer_> Where can I find the boot.img.gz file for Kubuntu 9.04?
[02:50] <neoTheCat> ZykotickK9: but i do not want one big desktop
[02:50] <ikonia> RProgrammer_: what are you trying to do ?
[02:50] <linux> Hello!  How do I get conky to show the date highlighted with bash cal command?
[02:50] <Darn> should you report a threat to rape you on IRC to the police?
[02:50] <ZykoticK9> neoTheCat, it was just an FYI sorta thing
[02:50] <ikonia> Darn: speak to freenode staff in #freenode or the current channel ops
[02:51] <RProgrammer_> ikonia: Boot from a USB or Netboot
[02:51] <RProgrammer_> ikonia: But onto a MacBook with its CD drive broken
[02:51] <ikonia> RProgrammer_: for usb you should be fine with a bz compressed kernel
[02:51] <RProgrammer_> But boot.img.gz has the partitioning and bootloader already set up
[02:52] <linux> How do I script conky to show bash cal command with date highlighted?
[02:52] <fryguy> linux: #conky
[02:52] <RProgrammer_> I'm told you can just dd it onto, say, /dev/sdb and you're good to go
[02:52] <FUbbyCD> hey is there a off topic ubuntu chat that actually has people in it
[02:52] <centaur5> RProgrammer_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[02:52] <linux> #conky?
[02:52] <fryguy> linux: yes, the channel
[02:52] <FUbbyCD> or better yet a room for ubuntu studio or music related
[02:53] <linux> oh!  Thanks fryguy !
[02:53] <FUbbyCD> i want to at least give the linux music apps a chance
[02:53] <Pici> FUbbyCD: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:53] <eseven73> FUbbyCD, it's #ubuntu-offtopic, not sure bout studio
[02:53] <FUbbyCD> thanks
[02:53] <craigbass1976> On a laptop that arrived yesterday, I keep getting "exiting on signal 15."  It just keeps shutting down.  Looking at previous lines in messages, each time lately was preceed by something different.  Any ideas?  Inspiron 5100 with hardy.
[02:54] <fryguy> craigbass1976: overheating?
[02:54] <JohnnyVbox> atleast you get signal 15... i am getting 11!
[02:54] <JohnnyVbox> lol
[02:54] <craigbass1976> fryguy, not sure.  What do I use? lmsensors, is that right?
[02:54] <fryguy> craigbass1976: that's an option, yes
[02:55] <Er1K> Pici, fryguy: neither of those worked off the bat, both got more interesting when I tried them with -r, but thanks to you guys, I did end up making it work. >>>  sed -r -s "s/  +/\t/g"
[02:56] <Er1K> ty so much
[02:56] <RProgrammer_> Thanks
[02:58] <Jordan_U> RProgrammer_: unetbootin makes it pretty easy to write the standard iso to a flash drive, the only official flash drive image that I know of is for Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[02:58] <rocky> dang it, direct sound still doesn't work though
[02:58] <RProgrammer> I tried UNetBootin, but it didn't work
[02:58] <rocky> or at least I don't see the option in audacity
[02:59] <craigbass1976> fryguy, what's another option?
[02:59] <RProgrammer> I think it's not writing the bootloader correctly for EFI
[02:59] <blacky> sup everyone
[02:59] <ziroday> RProgrammer: there is also the usb creator on any ubuntu install
[02:59] <rocky> sup
[02:59] <fryguy> craigbass1976: i'm not aware of any for linux
[02:59] <RProgrammer> Really,
[02:59]  * RProgrammer searches
[02:59] <Jordan_U> RProgrammer: Macs have BIOS emulation
[03:00] <JohnnyVbox> fryguy it seems like this sig11 is bullcrap
[03:00] <fryguy> JohnnyVbox: it's not
[03:00] <JohnnyVbox> there is no error or anything
[03:00] <JohnnyVbox> just a cold signal 11
[03:00] <fryguy> JohnnyVbox: so like i said a while ago, use strace and trace through the code and find what's causing it
[03:01] <JohnnyVbox> how to
[03:01] <fryguy> JohnnyVbox: or try manually debugging by eliminating possible causes
[03:01] <ZykoticK9> JohnnyVbox, think of a sig11 kinda like a BSOD in Windows (although that would really be a Kernel Panic) but you get the idea
[03:01] <fryguy> use strace to run whatever command you want to run from a terminal, and read the code as it scrolls by and debug the problem
[03:01] <JohnnyVbox> not cpu, it inited ok
[03:01] <JohnnyVbox> not gpu, glxgears is ok
[03:01] <JohnnyVbox> not sound, no errors about sound.
[03:01] <JohnnyVbox> not any file missing...
[03:02] <ne0> i need the mint linux 7 theme
[03:02] <fryguy> JohnnyVbox: none of those things are conclusive enough to eliminate that as a cause
[03:02] <tom__> hi i just installed wine 1.1.22 and get this error any one know why? wine cmd.exe /c echo '%Program Files%' returned empty string
[03:02] <Flannel> !mintsupport | ne0
[03:02] <RProgrammer> If I were going to dual-boot Mac OS X and Ubuntu, and have Ubuntu be the default, does it matter in what order I install the OS's?
[03:02] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: OK, GLXGears generate the 3d image of 3 gears rotating, so rendering is not giving me issues
[03:03] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: the game says that sound is initalizated OK, so...
[03:03] <JohnnyVbox> i got this:
[03:03] <JohnnyVbox> 2sec
[03:03] <skrite> someone suggest a tiling window manager that can switch out and back with metacity?
[03:03] <fryguy> skrite: xmonad
[03:03] <|COM|Styx> hello
[03:03] <Er1K> skrite: any wm that supports "--replace"/"-replace" will work...most modern ones do
[03:03] <fryguy> JohnnyVbox: have you checked any of the forum posts about this yet?  There's 20,000+ results on google about signal 11 with your program
[03:04] <|COM|Styx> anyone here maintain the xfce4 package?
[03:04] <skrite> fryguy: will it work with just the --replace method?
[03:04] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: noone of them is my case
[03:04] <skrite> i mean, ideally, i would like to be able to switch in and out without a logout
[03:04] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: checked em' already
[03:04] <fryguy> JohnnyVbox: none of the 20,000?
[03:04] <fryguy> JohnnyVbox: really?
[03:04] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: yeah, all of them are about opengl issues
[03:04] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: some about files or sound
[03:05] <|COM|Styx> anyone at all?
[03:05] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: noone of them have a ghost error
[03:05] <Er1K> skrite: yes, but you need wmctrl to make things "as you expect them", e.g. things may not be tiled when you switch to the tiled window manager
[03:05] <Er1K> s/need/may need/
[03:05] <JohnnyVbox> anyways, check pastebin.com/m764b819d
[03:05] <JohnnyVbox> thats what strace gives me
[03:05] <Th3D4rkn3ss> sup guys?
[03:05] <skrite> Er1K: wmctrl is a .deb? or something specific to xmonad?
[03:06] <rocky> motd
[03:06] <rocky> oops
[03:06] <Er1K> skrite: it's just a little proggy to let you manipulate window positions and related from the shell or a script
[03:06] <skrite> Er1K: s/need/may need/  -- funny, a vim joke
[03:06] <fryguy> JohnnyVbox: i'm sure it gave you a lot more than that
[03:06] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: ern i didnt see anything more
[03:06] <skrite> Er1K: will check it out thanks
[03:06] <azzytee> Hi folks.. quick question here.  I
[03:06] <nightdrever> is there a wine resptory ..... so installing wine products easier?
[03:07] <fryguy> skrite: actually it's a regex joke, and has little/nothing to do with vim directly
[03:07] <JohnnyVbox> yeah i see it
[03:07] <RProgrammer> sys
[03:07] <ramsey> how can I increase the size of my swap space in ubuntu?
[03:07] <Er1K> I've always considered it a sed joke, but that's just me :)
[03:07] <JohnnyVbox> but like... on the time the error happend, that is all
[03:07] <|COM|Styx> do we have anyone who maintains the xfce4 package?
[03:07] <skrite> fryguy: ok, vim i am familliar with, not regex
[03:07] <fryguy> ramsey: use gparted and make it bigger
[03:07] <Th3D4rkn3ss> delete ur current partition? and redue it
[03:07] <azzytee> Hi folks.. quick question here.  I'm running UNR and my kids did something to make the one gnome panel disappear... how can I get it back?
[03:07] <ZykoticK9> nightdrever, there is a wine repository, but what "products" do you mean?  windows software?
[03:07] <kitche> nightdrever: go to the winehq site your question is anwsered there
[03:08] <Er1K> ramsey: either create a new swap partition, resize your existing one with gparted, or use swap files (slower but easier)
[03:08] <nightdrever> yeah
[03:08] <Th3D4rkn3ss> azzytee what?
[03:08] <fryguy> azzytee: right click on the other panel and make a new one
[03:08] <ramsey> fryguy, Er1K: thanks! I'll try gparted
[03:08] <nightdrever> like free windows software
[03:08] <azzytee> I don't have any panels, just the netbook-launcher
[03:09] <fryguy> !reset-panels
[03:09] <ZykoticK9> nightdrever, i think the closest thing would be http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php
[03:09] <fryguy> !panels
[03:09] <azzytee> Thanks, I'll try
[03:09] <Er1K> speaking of netbook launcher.......can that be configured to NOT use opengl?
[03:10] <fryguy> Er1K: what do you want to use instead?
[03:10] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: here is what i get pastebin.com/m2eec2523
[03:11] <fryguy> JohnnyVbox: so it's unable to go to fullscreen mode
[03:11] <axisys> am I hitting a bug with that prepended domain name server keep disappearing from /etc/resolv.conf ?
[03:11] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: i get same problem with +set r_fullscreen 0
[03:12] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: wich sets my game to windowed mod
[03:12] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: mode
[03:12] <fryguy> JohnnyVbox: you get the exact same strace output?
[03:12] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: i get same stuff always i guess
[03:12] <fryguy> axisys: you are using dhcp?
[03:12] <munch13> I don't mean to be a bum, but anyone here running a sendmail server--and willing to give away a free account?
[03:12] <darlek> !info strace
[03:12] <nightdrever> im not sure about that wine site........says babaschess 4.0 works fine....not for me
[03:13] <fryguy> axisys: read the manpage for dhclient.conf and configure it to not override your changes when it renews your lease
[03:13] <ramsey> fryguy: who do you resize a partition in gparted if all your partitions are mounted and you can't unmount them?
[03:13] <fryguy> ramsey: boot from another operating system (maybe a livecd, maybe the gparted livecd?)
[03:14] <axisys> fryguy: yes I am using dhcp ..
[03:14] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: any idea?:
[03:14] <azzytee> ok,  that didnt seem to do anything.   When I run gnome-panel in the terminal the panel appears, but that only lasts until I kill it from the terminal
[03:14] <ramsey> fryguy: gotcha
[03:14] <Th3D4rkn3ss> anybody heard of bluesky
[03:14] <axisys> fryguy: prepend in the dhcpclient.conf should stick
[03:14] <fryguy> JohnnyVbox: if you are getting the same output, then it isn't trying to run in windowed mode
[03:14] <Th3D4rkn3ss> blue sky ac?
[03:14] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: yeah, i aint doint it now... i am running fullscreen
[03:14] <axisys> fryguy: reading dhclient.conf man
[03:15] <darlek> munch13:  why not just use google?
[03:15] <munch13> darlek: too many results ;) Going through them right now tho
[03:15] <JohnnyVbox> darlek = google troll? lol jk
[03:15] <darlek> lol
[03:15] <Xarver> Hello could anyone explain this? I'm on 9.04 and sometimes every few hours Ubuntu 9.04 shuts down for no reason. what's wrong?!?! on gnome
[03:15] <Er1K> fryguy: Just straight xlib calls without any fancy effects, I have a netboot environment sharing one nice master image in place, mix of video cards etc makes opengl stuff unstable/impossible without a lot more work, and netbook-launcher looks PERFECT for my children's (one of whom is mentally handicapped) desktop environment.  Toss in a touchscreen sensor, and some customizations and it looks perfect beyond words, plus I will eventually be getting them eepc's o
[03:15] <Er1K> r mini9's when the family cash flow improves, so nice continuity
[03:16] <darlek> good enough for a temp solution though
[03:16] <LjL> !offtopic
[03:16] <bastidrazor> azzytee; i think adding a & after the command eg. gnome-panel & will allow it to run after the terminal is closed
[03:16] <fryguy> Er1K: so stop running compiz
[03:16] <fryguy> Xarver: overheating?
[03:17] <Xarver> fryguy: It automatically shuts down 'cause of that? If that's true, I'm not sure if my comp is too hot
[03:17] <Er1K> fryguy: They aren't running compiz.  Last time I tried it (couple months ago), netbook-launcher would segfault if you did not have functional opengl
[03:17] <ZykoticK9> bastid_raZor, azzytee - actually i don't think the & at the end is gonna help - when you close the terminal it will still die - screen perhaps
[03:17] <fryguy> Er1K: compiz is the only thing that uses opengl on the desktop
[03:17] <Xarver> Or is it Pidgin? Because I always have it running
[03:18] <darlek> munch13: I had setup pine (alpine) with google a while back for giggles and so it works okay, so I'd imagine fetchmail and sendmail could also work with gmail.
[03:18] <fryguy> ZykoticK9: ?
[03:18] <fryguy> ZykoticK9: most programs know how to detach from a terminal
[03:18] <fryguy> ZykoticK9: and screen won't help you
[03:18] <fryguy> ZykoticK9: xpra would be the solution, or just run from a non-shell
[03:18] <bastidrazor> ZykoticK9; adding & will allow it to continue running with out the terminal
[03:18] <ZykoticK9> bastid_raZor, you are right
[03:19] <azzytee> I figured it out, its a known bug in desktop-switcher - trying the workaround described here: http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/04/desktop-swticher-is-kind-of-broken.html  thanks for your help
[03:19] <ZykoticK9> bastidrazor, maybe...
[03:20] <axisys> fryguy: http://pastebin.com/f71aac13 this is my dhclient.conf
[03:20] <JohnnyVbox> ubuntu started great and finished in last. i got tons of issues related with et and wine
[03:20] <axisys> fryguy: not sure why /etc/resolv.conf keep loosing my domain name server
[03:20] <JohnnyVbox> dsl gave me less trouble loool
[03:20] <Pafs321> hi! i just updated my system, and with the new kernel, my cam (microsoft VX-1000) stopped working, i opened skype using the command "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype" and when i tried to test the webcam it showed this message, that didn't show before "libv4lconvert: Error decompressing JPEG: fill_nbits error: need 2 more bits", can you guys help me please?
[03:21] <nightdrever> in babaschess under wine......the pieces arnt correct just a few simbols can this be fixed?
[03:21] <fryguy> axisys: i use a different version of dhclient, so like i said you'll have to review the documentation for the version of dhclient that you are using
[03:21] <axisys> fryguy: i am using the one came with ubuntu..
[03:21] <midnajt> hey
[03:21] <StruanF> hey
[03:21] <fryguy> axisys: like i said, i use a different version of dhclient, so you'll have to review the documentation yourself
[03:21] <relive> how to check filesystem type? ext2 or ext3. fdisk -l only list IDs
[03:22] <fryguy> relive: fsck
[03:22] <midnajt> why I don't have the premissions to access www folder
[03:22] <axisys> not sure why /etc/resolv.conf is not honoring my dhclient.conf http://pastebin.com/f71aac13
[03:22] <fryguy> midnajt: /var/www?
[03:22] <StruanF> I'm having a bit of trouble dual booting ubuntu from Windows 7.  Could someone give me a hand?
[03:22] <midnajt> yes
[03:22] <ZykoticK9> relive, type mount if they are mounted or check /etc/fstab
[03:22] <relive> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[03:22] <relive> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[03:22] <relive> ZykoticK9, thx
[03:22] <JohnnyVbox> hey guys, is there a way to control the bandwith used on my linux?
[03:23] <fryguy> relive: if the filesystem is mounted, use the mount command to see what it is mounted as
[03:23] <JohnnyVbox> i wanna use just 50kb/s so that i won't overload everything with dl'as
[03:23] <JohnnyVbox> dl's*
[03:23] <skicsA> does ubuntu have parts to download (like part 1, part 2, part 3), because my client and SnAOL can't handle it.
[03:23] <StruanF> Well it doesn't seem to be partitioning properly.  I don't know much about this but I tried using FreeBCD and the 30GB partition I chose in the installation isn't showing up
[03:23] <relive> fryguy, thx
[03:24] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: can i change the bandwith used by this computer, like, i wanna use only 50kb/s
[03:24] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: so i wont overload the whole connection
[03:25] <JohnnyVbox> [fryguy]: i mean, i wanna change the how much the ubuntu is allowed to psuh
[03:25] <JohnnyVbox> push
[03:25] <Pafs321> no one?
[03:25] <xxuriahxx> u might have to do something with ur qos settings in ur router fryguy
[03:25] <fryguy> xxuriahxx: ??
[03:26] <JohnnyVbox> fryguy can i limit my download bandwith on ubuntu?
[03:26] <stumped> my windows no longer have borders.  no min max or close buttons
[03:26] <fryguy> xxuriahxx: I use freebsd as my router and have a very customied packet scheduling/QOS setup, why are you telling me this?
[03:26] <mikepark> JohnnyVbox: trickle maybe?
[03:26] <JohnnyVbox> fryguy so my brother wont get mad at me cause i am lagging him
[03:26] <fryguy> stumped: so run a window manager
[03:26] <darlek> JohnnyVbox: I suppse you could use a proxy server, then set the server to a specific rule on uploads and downloads..  not sure of a particular program
[03:26] <ZykoticK9> xxuriahxx, JohnnyVbox depending on how your Virtual Machine is setup - the router option may not be an option at all
[03:26] <xxuriahxx> o nevermind
[03:26] <stumped> how?
[03:27] <meatball_> why in the hell would sun make it so Netbeans ignores the OS classpath?
[03:27] <JohnnyVbox> [ZykoticK9]: i gave up with ubuntu, mandriva was giving me less issues with vbox
[03:27] <fryguy> stumped: alt-f2 and run metacity, for example
[03:27] <StruanF1> so can anyone helo me?
[03:27] <ZykoticK9> stumped, terminal "metacity --replace"
[03:27] <JohnnyVbox> [ZykoticK9]: ill download it, thats why i wanna limit it up
[03:27] <xxuriahxx> hey fryguy, is leopard freebsd with their proprietary software on top
[03:27] <darlek> !ask | StruanF1
[03:27] <fryguy> xxuriahxx: no
[03:28] <mib_pv8ej8hm>  Can someone please help me? I can no longer access the internet in Ubuntu 9.04. It worked fine previously in Ubuntu 9.04. I am connecting wirelessly with a PCMCIA card. I can connect to my network but when I open firefox I get "server not found." I have tried more than one card but still have had no luck. I am duel booting with Windows XP and the card works
[03:28] <ZykoticK9> xxuriahxx, actually leopard is based of the BSD called Darwin, not really FBSD at all
[03:28] <JohnnyVbox> !ask noob
[03:28] <xxuriahxx> is it unix at all?
[03:28] <fryguy> ZykoticK9: no
[03:28] <JohnnyVbox> !ask mandriva
[03:28] <xxuriahxx> ah ha
[03:28] <StruanF1> I already did.  "Well it doesn't seem to be partitioning properly.  I don't know much about this but I tried using FreeBCD and the 30GB partition I chose in the installation isn't showing up"
[03:28] <fryguy> ZykoticK9: darwin is written completely in house at apple
[03:28] <stumped> my terminal wont work
[03:28] <fryguy> !work | stumped
[03:28] <stumped> just shows up as blank window
[03:28] <ZykoticK9> fryguy, do me a favour and ignore my posts thanks
[03:28] <harpreet_> mib_pv8ej8hm: tell card?
[03:30] <darlek> !wifi > darlek
[03:30] <StruanF1> anyone know of any problems with partitioning in Windows 7 or am I just being a simpleton?
[03:30] <brandon> Hello, i just installed IRCii from terminal but i do not know where to find it, any ideas?
[03:30] <fryguy> brandon: in /usr/bin/
[03:30] <fryguy> brandon: or /usr/local/bin, depending on how you installed it
[03:31] <mib_pv8ej8hm> harpreet_ I tried two different wireless PCMCIA cards. One is a D-link AirPlus XtremeG
[03:31] <craigbass1976> StruanF, 3.1 was the last one I liked, wish I could help
[03:31] <swiftarrow> StruanF1, I've had problems partitioning in vista
[03:31] <StruanF1> Did you resolve them?
[03:31] <zhukov> Hello World
[03:31] <craigbass1976> swiftarrow, was that with a clean drive, or with vista already installed?
[03:31] <harpreet_> mib_pv8ej8hm: it is laptop, right
[03:32] <mib_pv8ej8hm> yes
[03:32] <swiftarrow> craigbass1976, already installed.  I was trying to make space for ubuntu using vista's partitioner
[03:32] <kitche> StruanF1: why not ask your question in a windows channel?
[03:33] <onexused> !nfs
[03:33] <StruanF1> umm, okay. I'll give it a try. thank
[03:33] <eseven73> !msgthebot > onexused
[03:33] <Th3D4rkn3ss> ok guys my windows media player doesnt work...how do i fix it? lol
[03:33] <fryguy> Th3D4rkn3ss: this is a linux channel, not a windows channel
[03:33] <craigbass1976> swiftarrow, usually ubuntu partitions during install, no?  I haven't done dual boot since dapper/edgy, but I thought it got taken care of during ubuntu instal
[03:33] <Th3D4rkn3ss> im running xp sp2
[03:34] <Th3D4rkn3ss> pro
[03:34] <eseven73> Th3D4rkn3ss, way wrong channel
[03:34] <harpreet_> mib_pv8ej8hm: run hwinfo --short and paste proper card
[03:34] <Th3D4rkn3ss> =) i was j/k
[03:34] <darlek> and yet this is an ubuntu channel...so?
[03:34] <Ron586> hmm everything  locked up
[03:34] <Th3D4rkn3ss> i dont even have an xp machine lol...
[03:34] <eseven73> !ot
[03:34] <Th3D4rkn3ss> 1 vista 1 red hat 1 ubuntu
[03:34] <craigbass1976> StruanF, what are you using to partition?
[03:34] <darlek> !wifi
[03:34] <harpreet_> mib_pv8ej8hm: you can either use ndiswapper or madwifi to load windows drivers, you will have to find xp driver that works for the card and extract .inf file from it and load through madwifi or ndiswapper
[03:34] <raden> anyone have ubuntu installed on a raid 1 system i try to install bios has drives as raid 1 but ubuntu sees both drives as install options any ideas ?
[03:35] <mib_pv8ej8hm> harpreet_ I am using a laptop. Also, I recently installed a firewall then I had this problem. However, I removed the firewall, but I am still having problems.
[03:35] <swiftarrow> craigbass1976, I had to resize a partition, and my friend wanted to use Vista's partitioner.  It ended up creating a nice chunk of free space that nothing, not even it, could access!  Manually editing the partition tables was the only way out.  but that was a while ago.
[03:35] <craigbass1976> swiftarrow, nice...
[03:35] <intx> what can I use to benchmark my disk based on cluster sizes so I can find out what's the optimal cluster size for my SSD?
[03:35] <fryguy> intx: bonnie++
[03:35] <intx> thanks
[03:35] <harpreet_> mib_pv8ej8hm: you can either use ndiswapper or madwifi to load windows drivers, you will have to find xp driver that works for the card and extract .inf file from it and load through madwifi or ndiswapper
[03:36] <mib_pv8ej8hm> harpeet_ Do need to use ndiswapper or madwifi my card worked fine earlier with any one of those programs?
[03:36] <harpreet_> mib_pv8ej8hm: firewall has nothing to do with it, its the driver or updates that you did after
[03:37] <darlek> madwifi I bet works.  visit their site and docs
[03:37] <darlek> ndiswrapper only for cards that have zero linux support
[03:39] <ozzloy> how do i find my router's ip?
[03:39] <ozzloy> on the internal network?
[03:39] <mib_pv8ej8hm> darlek my card had perfect linux support. Don't remeber installing any updates
[03:39] <fryguy> ozzloy: run the route command and look for the gateway
[03:39] <nibbler> ozzloy: to you have any clue what network it is in?
[03:40] <nibbler> ozzloy: if you have dhcpd on the router, then take fryguy's solution :)
[03:40] <ozzloy> nibbler, fryguy: are you both referencing futurama?
[03:40] <nibbler> ozzloy: me for sure
[03:40] <ozzloy> also thansk
[03:40] <ozzloy> that is awesome
[03:41] <axisys> ever since i upgraded to ff 3.5 beta 4 I dont hear any sound from youtube
[03:41] <fryguy> ozzloy: no
[03:41] <darlek> the included ath5k in jauntry i replaced with madwifi and I've never had a problem.  lots of info in the ubuntu forums
[03:41] <ozzloy> fryguy, nibbler thanks.  found it with route
[03:42] <mib_pv8ej8hm> darlek_ so if I use mad wifi or ndiswrapper how am I supposed to install on it on ubuntu with no internet?
[03:42] <onexused> It takes several seconds after I type an ssh command to get a prompt (ubuntu 9.04).  This doesn't happen with another distro.  How can I speed it up?
[03:42] <fryguy> onexused: try turning of gssapiauthentication
[03:42] <docsquale> anyone versed in solving Ubuntu upgrade/ mysql won't start problems?
[03:43] <fryguy> onexused: in your ssh client config
[03:43] <onexused> fryguy: I was just going to ask where : ) thanks, I'll look into that.
[03:43] <Th3D4rkn3ss> anybody know anything about snort boxes?
[03:43] <onexused> fryguy: Will this make anything less secure?
[03:43] <fryguy> onexused: do you use gssapi?
[03:43] <fryguy> (likely kerberos)
[03:44] <onexused> fryguy: If the default is "no", then no.
[03:44] <docsquale> I was running 8.04, and upgraded to 8.10 and then to 9.04 via the upgrade instructions, but now mysql won't start or reinstall (http://paste.ubuntu.com/184078/).
[03:44] <fryguy> onexused: then no
[03:44] <onexused> fryguy: ok
[03:44] <Th3D4rkn3ss> kk..,.
[03:45] <nibbler> docsquale: start mysql manually, check mysql logs
[03:45] <docsquale> nibbler: have done so and logs seem to be empty
[03:45] <nibbler> docsquale: edit mysql config to enable more logging
[03:46] <nibbler> docsquale: also just execute "mysqld" and see if there is any commandline output
[03:47] <docsquale> nibbler: http://paste.ubuntu.com/184080/
[03:48] <ZykoticK9> docsquale, so you're missing the file errmsg.sys, are you able to try reinstall mysql-server?
[03:48] <nibbler> docsquale: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.1/+bug/316974
[03:49] <docsquale> zyk: tonight, I attempted to remove and reinstall mysql-server, and that seems to have failed too: http://paste.ubuntu.com/184078/
[03:50] <i3d_> Am I abusing the signal subsystem if I redefine USR1 signals to do something totally different in my app?
[03:50] <ZykoticK9> docsquale, "Selecting previously deselected package mysql-server-core-5.0." would suggest mysql server isn't currently installed?
[03:51] <ZykoticK9> docsquale, or perhaps this is just an updated version ?
[03:51] <docsquale> zyk: i'll have to check to see what's installed now.... is there an easy way to filter on *mysql* and dump to a file?
[03:51] <eseven73> !tab | docsquale
[03:51] <docsquale> zyk: I'm not sure....
[03:51] <axisys> docsquale: did u see this comment? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.1/+bug/316974/comments/16
[03:52] <graelin> what is /dev/sr0?
[03:52] <fryguy> graelin: usually a cd drive
[03:52] <fryguy> graelin: specifically a burner
[03:52] <fryguy> graelin: (or a scsi cd drive)
[03:53] <Edgar1> hello
[03:53] <docsquale> axisys: Didn't see it until you posted it, but I can't find that setting in my my.conf file.
[03:53] <Edgar1> i have a problem, i got no sound from a flash for example youtube
[03:54] <Edgar1> what can i do to get sounds from flash?
[03:54] <fryguy> Edgar1: there are lots of solutions for that posted on the forums, and in the wiki
[03:54] <fryguy> basically, tell firefox to use oss, or get pulseaudio configured correctly
[03:54] <DIL> tape drive
[03:54] <Edgar1> fryguy i see
[03:54] <Er1K> fryguy: netbook-launcher most definitely uses opengl rendering (I think libclutter does, actually).  It links against libGL.so.1 and libGLcore.so.1 (ldd `which netbook-launcher`) and strace shows 725 calls to *gl* functions during a typical startup of it.
[03:54] <eric__> Edgar1: try here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=986966
[03:55] <fryguy> Er1K: so then don't use netbook-launcher then, if you don't want opengl
[03:55] <Edgar1> eric__ ok
[03:55] <eric__> I don't know if that's what you're looking for, but have a look anyway
[03:56] <Edgar1> eric__ i don't want to record, just listen
[03:56] <rdw200169> axisys, hey, i have an answer to your problem
[03:56] <Edgar1> just get sounds
[03:56] <eric__> Oh, ok
[03:56] <eric__> Well just do a search in the forums for Flash, or Flash audio or something
[03:56] <rdw200169> axisys, the one about resolv.conf
[03:57] <Edgar1> i wiil
[03:57] <Edgar1> will
[03:58] <axisys> rdw200169: sure
[03:58] <rdw200169> axisys, basically, you can't edit that file directly.  instead, if you want things put in there, use the package 'resolvconf'.  there is a configuration file as part of that package where can add domain names, etc..
[03:58] <darlek> !info madwifi
[03:59] <axisys> rdw200169: yeah man page said it overwrites it, even though i had prepend domain-name-server <IP>; in the dhclient.conf
[03:59] <Serpardum> Hello, I have a shared folder under vitualbox.  How do I get to it in kubuntu?
[03:59] <rdw200169> axisys, when you install this package, go to this directory: /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/  inside there is a file called 'original'.  you add your stuff there
[03:59] <axisys> rdw200169: i will checkout the resolvconf pkg
[03:59] <docsquale> axisys: I'm trying to remove all remnants of the mysql-* packages and then reinstall.... but aptitude seems to keep forcing me to keep mysql-common.  Why?
[03:59] <rdw200169> axisys, its just about the only way to guarantee something makes it in there when you're using dhcp lookups, etc..
[03:59] <fryguy> Serpardum: smb://virutalboxmachineip/shareddirectoryname in nautilus
[03:59] <Serpardum> samba.  kay, thanks
[03:59] <jdsandeson> what on mad wifi in jaunty
[04:00] <rdw200169> axisys, this is, for example, how you override the dns to always use OpenDNS
[04:00] <Serpardum> um, what's nautilus?
[04:00] <dagnachew> hi all
[04:00] <dagnachew> anyone using awn dock ?
[04:00] <fryguy> Serpardum: the default filebrowser in ubuntu
[04:00] <Serpardum> ahh, kay
[04:00] <axisys> docsquale: have u tried apt-get --purge or some purge command .. dont remember the exact command
[04:00] <darlek> nautilus is the default file manager in gnome ubuntu
[04:00] <rdw200169> dagnachew, i used to, but found it buggy.  now i use the docky feature of Gnome Do
[04:00] <docsquale> axisys: did try purge in aptitude
[04:01] <darlek> !info nautilus
[04:01] <Er1K> fryguy: netbook-launcher might not be an option for me, true, but I came seeking advice from anybody who might know how to make it work without gl support, or for suggestions on things similar that would work, not to be fed misinformation followed by a "then take your ball and go home" response when called on it.
[04:01] <jdsandeson> anyone know how to run WoW in WinE?
[04:01] <fryguy> Er1K: well it's obviously linked to opengl so you have no choice
[04:01] <axisys> rdw200169: i dont like opendns cuz it always replies w/ something .. instead of suggesting something i want not found
[04:01] <fryguy> jdsandeson: you run it like you do any other program
[04:02] <Er1K> is there a way to FORCE software/mesa gl rendering even when gl hardware support appears (incorrectly) to exist/function?
[04:02] <rdw200169> axisys, fair enough, i was just giving an example of its usefulness ;)
[04:02] <axisys> rdw200169: understood .. thnx
[04:02] <DareDevil0> Herramienta para ripear dvd ubuntu
[04:02] <fryguy> Er1K: switch X servers or use a driver that uses software rendering rather than hardware rendering
[04:02] <tik> any 1 here familiar with the ps3 linux i have xbuntu 9,04
[04:03] <fryguy> !ask | tik
[04:03] <rdw200169> jdsandeson, many people run WoW in wine.  you should check the Wiki for the most extensive tips on how to get it working right.  generally, I've found that copying a working installations directory files to a linux directory with user permissions works the best.  installation in linux is a bit of a bear.
[04:03] <darlek> tik: if it's a xubuntu question you might try #xubuntu but if it's general ubuntu questions ask away
[04:04] <dagnachew> rdw200169, does gnome-do has a stack ?
[04:04] <dagnachew> rdw200169, does gnome-do has a stacks ?
[04:04] <rdw200169> jdsandeson, mostly, you're going to do a bunch of Config.WTF modifications.  The most common problems involve screen resolution and GL versus DirectX which can both be fixed in Config.wtf and using the command line switches, i.e. Wow.exe -opengl
[04:04] <Jordan_U> Eric_K: Why?
[04:04] <Jordan_U> Eric_K: You can force software rendering for all apps
[04:05] <rdw200169> dagnachew, i'm not really sure, there are some plugins but i don't use them.  i just find that the application features work pretty darn well.  its quite a bit like the Mac Bar
[04:05] <jdsandeson> Hmm that all sounds like a lot of work
[04:05] <Darn> ?
[04:06] <rdw200169> jdsandeson, its not that bad.  there are a *lot* of pages out there on the internet that take care of common steps and troubleshooting
[04:06] <dagnachew> rdw200169, application feautures of the gnome-do ?
[04:06] <dagnachew> brb
[04:06] <eseven73> jdsandeson, linux is all about hacking config files, better get used to it, :D
[04:06] <jdsandeson> But it is possible to do the install in wine?
[04:06] <rdw200169> dagnachew, you know, the icons on the bottom that indicate running applications.  and the quick launchers you just copy from the Applications menu to the bar, etc...
[04:06] <jdsandeson> yup it took a week but i got my webcam up and it works great
[04:07] <rdw200169> jdsandeson, i think so, but i'm not sure
[04:07] <Er1K> fryguy: it's a shared netboot image, some of the clients use the nvidia binary drivers out of necessity (tv-out, multihead, etc.), and the nvidia stuff overwrites some of the gl libs....and won't work with the standard ones, nor will other machines work with the nvidia molested ones.  I could do stuff around that avenue, but I need an absolute failsafe fallback
[04:07] <rdw200169> jdsandeson, keep in mind you may be waiting a really long time for updates...
[04:08] <Er1K> Jordan_U:  That would be perfect as n-l has a "low graphics mode", how do I force software rendering?
[04:08] <jdsandeson> been usin linux a few years it pretty much dose my bidding out of the box but i gave it to a few friends who crashed their windows
[04:08] <Jordan_U> Eric_K: Explicitly prevent loading of DRI in the xorg.conf
[04:09] <rdw200169> jdsandeson, if you want to do things the easy way, buy cedega from transgaming.com
[04:09] <jdsandeson> and they want everyting like windows had games and all
[04:09] <aa__> help with CUPS please
[04:09] <ramontayag> hey everyone. i want to install unetbootin on my laptop but it's not found in the synaptic package manager. i've checked all 3rd party software. funny coz on my desktop it's in the synaptic package manager. what repository is it in?
[04:09] <ed_debian> jdsandeson, Then they really don't want linux
[04:09] <darlek> !ask | aa__
[04:09] <jdsandeson> yes but that defeats the pupose of having linux
[04:10] <aa__> I need to edit/change username/passwd when changing http://localhost:631/admin/
[04:10] <jdsandeson> well they like not crashing verry much
[04:10] <aa__> sorry ubottu
[04:10] <ed_debian> aa__, I feel you.  It is frustrating when there is nobody that knows and answer to your question... Wish I could help but I've never messed with cups
[04:10] <jdsandeson> i think it is lime wire that gets them
[04:11] <rdw200169> jdsandeson, well, i guess you can't have everything.  if you want easy, buy a mac.  if you want mainstream, buy windows.  if you want control and power, use linux.
[04:11] <ed_debian> lime wire destroys computers
[04:11] <eseven73> tell them to use Frostwire instead
[04:12] <jdsandeson> look transmission told me that i have now downloaded the entire innternet please go back and start over
[04:12] <darlek> haha
[04:12] <bishop> joining
[04:12] <gralco> for some reason my blank dvd+rw is being read as only have 2.0 KB in size...
[04:13] <jdsandeson> never before have i had such a reliable and trusty friend
[04:13] <WebcamWonder> So, lkl is x86 only?
[04:14] <rdw200169> WebcamWonder, lkl?
[04:14] <ed_debian> lkl??
[04:14] <bishop> limewire frostwire the diff?
[04:14] <WebcamWonder> rdw200169: ed_debian: Linux Key Logger
[04:14] <WebcamWonder> Or is there a port for x86_64 available?
[04:15] <FUbbyCD> hey
[04:15] <FUbbyCD> jack is hanging on start
[04:15] <FUbbyCD>   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  cannot remove `/dev/shm/jack-1000' (Operation not permitted) cannot use real-time scheduling (FIFO at priority 10) [for thread -1212381504, from thread -1212381504] (1: Operation not permitted)
[04:16] <FloodBot3> FUbbyCD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:16] <FUbbyCD> come on.. 3 lines of text..
[04:16] <Jordan_U> Eric_K: Do you know all of the hardware configurations that will be used with this image, you might try nouveau if it's stable on all of the nvidia machines, they won't get 3D but intel and ATI users still will since nouveau won't break other drivers
[04:16] <FUbbyCD> so yeah
[04:17] <ed_debian> FUbbyCD, FloodBot3 is a program.  He just responds when you trigger him (you hit enter too quickly in a row)
[04:17] <FUbbyCD> oh
[04:17] <eseven73> after 3 lines FloodBot1,2,3 comes out of his cave and slaughters anything it finds, gotta watch out for them :D
[04:17] <tgr> which is faster awesome or lxde?
[04:17] <FUbbyCD> haha
[04:17] <FUbbyCD> guess i got lucky
[04:17] <ed_debian> FUbbyCD, Yes lol
[04:17] <jrib> tgr: try both and use what you like
[04:17] <chris__> Hi How do you reset the "The Panel" back to default. Intrepid Gnome desktop ? ?
[04:17] <ed_debian> FUbbyCD, Do you need JACK?  Just use something else
[04:17] <FUbbyCD> is there a problem with jack
[04:17] <FUbbyCD> uhh im wanting to use ardour
[04:18] <ed_debian> (in other words) I don't know how to fix it
[04:18] <FUbbyCD> and it complains about jack
[04:18] <jrib> !resetpanel | chris__
[04:18] <FUbbyCD> i dont even know who jack is or care about it but it and rosegarden need it i think
[04:18] <darlek> !info jack
[04:18] <ed_debian> ok then, yeah use jack, I don't know how to fix it though sorry :(
[04:18] <Serpardum> whats the opposite of mount?  dismount and unmount didnt' work
[04:18] <darlek> umount
[04:18] <darlek> no n
[04:18] <Serpardum> hmm.. kay
[04:19] <FUbbyCD> sorry but i know you guys probably agree. audio creation as in DAW's are as of now not usable in linux
[04:19] <Jordan_U> Eric_K: ( sorry if this is a repeat, I'm having odd network issues ) Do you know all of the hardware configurations that will be used with this image? you might try nouveau if it's stable on all of the nvidia machines, they won't get 3D but intel and ATI users still will since nouveau won't break other drivers
[04:19] <jrib> Serpardum: umount obviously
[04:19] <ed_debian> FUbbyCD, Jack does way more than rip / encode cd's.  It is a sound server.  It is the program that other programs use to access the sound card
[04:19] <sharperguy2> Anyone else have an issue where myspace and bbc iplayer cause firefox and epiphany to crash?
[04:19] <FUbbyCD> thanks guess its on to google
[04:19] <FUbbyCD> oh yeah
[04:19] <FUbbyCD> logging out same as rebooting
[04:20] <hoohaah> is it worth trying to setup wine for office apps, or should i just do a kvm install of xp and install office there?
[04:20] <FUbbyCD> for permissions and all that stuff that installed programs change
[04:20] <ed_debian> hoohaah, Do you know what open office is?
[04:20] <FUbbyCD> so what im saying is .. shutting down vs rebooting
[04:20] <lstarnes> ed_debian: openoffice is an office suite
[04:20] <hoohaah> ed_debian: yeah, it's that alternative to office that feels sluggish on my system :)
[04:20] <FUbbyCD> arrrgghh i mean shutting down vs logging out .. any difference in permission changes that the programs need
[04:20] <darlek> hoohaah: abiword and openoffice on both I'd recommend.
[04:20] <Serpardum> "office apps"?  Why not just run staroffice?
[04:21] <Serpardum> staroffice = openoffice
[04:21] <hoohaah> plus, I have several statistics packages that can only work on excel
[04:21] <WebcamWonder> ed_debian: And is no where near compatible with Microsoft Office Documents
[04:21] <ed_debian> hoohaah,  Well MS office in wine will be a pain in the butt I'ms ure
[04:21] <ed_debian> IDK if it's worth it
[04:21] <ed_debian> WebcamWonder, ??
[04:21] <ed_debian> I use it to work on docx all the time?
[04:21] <eseven73> office 2007 works in wine
[04:22] <hoohaah> eseven73: really?
[04:22] <WebcamWonder> ed_debian: OpenOffice is horrid in its compatibility with doc and docx, especially when it comes to formatting
[04:22] <RedSocrates> Same here, ed_debian
[04:22] <hoohaah> can you provide a link to a howto?
[04:22] <JabberWalkie> or you can use OO
[04:22] <RedSocrates> No problems with OpenOffice on docs or docx
[04:22] <eseven73> hoofman, yep, I think it's on wine's database site
[04:22] <Gareth_> Hey, I was wondering, I want to boot up into my Live Disk for some partition management, but I'm in the middle of watching some videos. Can I watch MKV's in Ubuntu Live?
[04:22] <hoohaah> noice
[04:22] <ed_debian> WebcamWonder, I have never seen any problems but I have heard some of the more complex features aren't supported like some excel macros and other things
[04:23] <Er1K> Jordan_U: I already have x-configs per machine, nouveau doesn't do tv out, so simply not an option, and simply disabling dri doesn't do it, as the nvidia thing replaces an xlib and then glx won't load on anything else.  think I found a not difficult answer, though
[04:23] <eseven73> seen it last night when I was looking for CS4 + Wine, which somewhat works, but requires a lot of hacks, .dll's etc
[04:23] <ed_debian> WebcamWonder, From day to day use I think open office is a perfectly good substitute for MS office and I think it is compatiable enough
[04:23] <ed_debian> with doc / docx
[04:23] <donald_> Hey, I installed the latest Ubuntu 9.04, and everything works fine but the audio. According to the sound mixer I have an Intel HDA ALC888 and a ATI HDMI... neither work for audio. In WinXP, I have to download Realtek drivers because its a realtek HD audio device... please help?
[04:24] <poseidon> What is a good cd ripper?
[04:24] <hoohaah> eseven73: gah, seems I need crossover games
[04:24] <fryguy> donald_: you'll need to google for details, but you want to disable the ati hdmi audio
[04:24] <Er1K> make the Xorg modules in question (I *think* just one) part of the temporary-copy-on-write list, and just symlink the write module before x starts....not hard, should work with no more than one tweak per x server.....gonna give it a try
[04:24] <hoohaah> I don't want to spend any more money than I already have for an office app
[04:24] <WebcamWonder> ed_debian: Over the past 2 months, all the files I have sent to my peers have rendered with tables being placed 20% from the left and at widths > 100%, the bold and underline formatting is not kept, and I mostly have whitespace where real things should exist in the doc.... so I'd take office 200[0-9] in WINE over Openoffice anyday.... Anyways, that is my personal opinion and experience
[04:24] <onexused> poseidon: Audio cds?  I like sound-juicer.
[04:24] <hoohaah> 2007 at student discount is still fairly expensive
[04:24] <donald_> How can I disable ATI HDMI?
[04:24] <fryguy> donald_: like i said you'll need to google for details
[04:24] <fryguy> donald_: i don't have the machine that i did it with in front of me
[04:25] <darlek> poseidon: run synaptic, it can show you quite a lot of available cd ripper programs.  Sound-juicer might already be installed
[04:25] <Garethp> Hey, I was wondering, I want to boot up into my Live Disk for some partition management, but I'm in the middle of watching some videos. Can I watch MKV's in Ubuntu Live
[04:25] <hoohaah> donald_: why? if it's not plugged into anything, it won't play anything
[04:25] <hoohaah> donald_: you can always unload the module
[04:25] <darlek> !info mkv
[04:25] <darlek> !find mkv
[04:25] <Garethp> !find mkv
[04:25] <WebcamWonder> !info lkl
[04:26] <fryguy> hoohaah: the problem is that ati initializes the sound infrastructure first, which causes the onboard realtek card to not work.
[04:26] <Garethp> !info mkv
[04:26] <caiox> .
[04:26] <donald_> I'm just wanting a fix to make my audio work...
[04:26] <Garethp> Thanks
[04:26] <fryguy> hoohaah: the ATI hdmi driver grabs audio in a weird way
[04:26] <ZykoticK9> poseidon, grip is a not bad gui cdripper, abcde is a cli program that is very powerful
[04:26] <donald_> I don't know what to search for in Google
[04:26] <hoohaah> fryguy: you can specify (in alsa) a different default audio device
[04:26] <chaorain> With blender fullscreen when I do a render the render window is always behind the main window. is there a way to change this? (BTW I'm using compiz at the same time and it still works great)
[04:26] <hoohaah> fryguy: ati wouldn't make the realtek card 'not work'
[04:26] <fryguy> hoohaah: you can, by changing alsa configuration, or you can just disable the ATI driver.  like i said, he needs to google for details
[04:26] <hoohaah> it's simply ordered first
[04:26] <fryguy> hoohaah: it does
[04:27] <darlek> there's like a dozen cd rippers, maybe more, and they all work haha
[04:27] <fryguy> hoohaah: you apparently haven't looked at the ATI HDMI driver and how it works
[04:27] <fryguy> hoohaah: this is a known, documented issue
[04:27] <v3xed> guys.. i get this "error occurred" when trying to install compiz E: dpkg was interrupted you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'tp correct the problem. E:_cache->open()failed. please report. --c
[04:27] <hoohaah> fryguy: no i haven't seen the source, but I have the same setup: ati gfx card and realtek onboard
[04:27] <darlek> !find ripper
[04:27] <hoohaah> fryguy: weird, then I guess my system is an exception
[04:27] <eseven73> !msgthebot > darlek
[04:28] <dparker> I'm kind of drawing a blank on this, and I'm not even quite sure where to ask so I'm kinda shotgunning it here - sorry if it's off topic. I'm putting together a dvd image for myself that has a bunch of documentation and reference material that I'd like to carry around with me.  I'd like to have the ability to do full text search on the contents of the image quickly.  Is there something - an app or just an index format or something that I could include on t
[04:28] <fryguy> hoohaah: only happens on machines that have an ATI HDMI audio driver (not all ATI cards expose this, the machine I'm currently on does not)
[04:28] <donald_> yes, I have an ATI Radeon HD 4670 graphics card and it needs the ATI HDMI driver for its HDMI but I dont use it, so I could disable it with no problem
[04:28] <donald_> and onboaard Realtek
[04:29] <hoohaah> fryguy: my hd card does
[04:30] <hoohaah> donald_: i haven't done it myself (or needed to) but if you have any other hd audio devices, you'd need to disable _only_ snd_hda_codec_atihdmi
[04:31] <donald_> hoohaah, can you explain to me how (maybe in terminal?) i can disable snd_hda_codec_atihdmi
[04:31] <fryguy> donald_: rmmod
[04:31] <hoohaah> donald_: you have any other hd audio devices?
[04:32] <donald_> when i go to system > preferences > sound
[04:32] <donald_> and under "sound playback" it says
[04:32] <hoohaah> donald_: you'd need to append to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:32] <harpreet_> how do i change my window manager
[04:32] <ZykoticK9> harpreet_, install another one - then log out and at the GDM login screen select "change session" or something to that effect
[04:32] <fryguy> harpreet_: export WINDOW_MANAGER in recent versions of gnome, or stop running gnome-session altogether and specify a different session type to run in gdm
[04:33] <RunSky> how much time it needs to compile the qt4.5?
[04:33] <hoohaah> harpreet_: update-alternatives x-window-manager
[04:33] <fryguy> RunSky: depends on your machine, probably a couple of hours
[04:33] <iam1721292934> If I would like to suggest a package upgrade in the repo's to match what the code's project is actually versioned at, due to a bug in the current ubuntu version, but not the up-to-date version, what's the most efficient way to report this.
[04:33] <spool32> spool32> I need some assistance setting up a DLink WDA-1320 wireless-G nic on Ubintu 8.0.4.
 ifconfig recognizes the device, iwconfig reports that it can see the SSID and the AP, I've added a key for it in both ascii and hex, but no matter what I try I can't get it to receive a dhcp address
[04:33] <fryguy> iam1721292934: launchpad
[04:33] <hoohaah> harpreet_: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager
[04:34] <harpreet_> ZykoticK9: fryguy: hoohaah: thank you all, i'll try and be back
[04:34] <donald_> hoohaah, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf?
[04:34] <iam1721292934> fryguy: report a bug there?
[04:34] <hoohaah> donald_: that'll work
[04:35] <hoohaah> donald_: are you sure your realtek doesn't support hda?
[04:35] <fryguy> hoohaah: it does
[04:35] <rizha07> cewek butuh duit
[04:35] <donald_> i appended it
[04:35] <donald_> now i restart?
[04:35] <hoohaah> donald_: what did you append?
[04:35] <fryguy> donald_: just use rmmmod
[04:35] <donald_> i put in
[04:35] <donald_> "blacklist snd_hda_codec_atihdmi"
[04:35] <donald_> without quotes
[04:36] <ZykoticK9> donald_, rmmod isn't permanent - you would need to blacklist to have it survive reboots
[04:36] <donald_> okay I blacklisted it
[04:36] <fryguy> ZykoticK9: read up about 10 lines..
[04:36] <donald_> I restart for it to take effect, correct?
[04:36] <fryguy> donald_: just rmmod
[04:37] <donald_> fryguy, I'm new to Ubuntu, I dont know how to rmmod
[04:37] <fryguy> donald_: sudo rmmod snd_hda_codec_atihdmi
[04:37] <iam1721292934> doesn't that need an absolute path
[04:37] <fryguy> no
[04:37] <donald_> ERROR: Module snd_hda_codec_atihdmi does not exist in /proc/modules
[04:38] <hoohaah> no, rmmod or modprobe both have a path set
[04:38] <fryguy> donald_: lsmod, is it listed
[04:38] <user01> is there a way to have a menu at boot time that has an option for a different wireless config?
[04:38] <hoohaah> i don't think the codec is listed as it's own module
[04:38] <donald_> I already blacklisted and saved the blacklist.conf file
[04:38] <donald_> Can I just restart and hope its fixed?
[04:38] <fryguy> hoohaah: it's a driver, not a codec
[04:38] <fryguy> donald_: no
[04:38] <fryguy> donald_: lsmod and see if it's listed
[04:39] <donald_> fryguy, its not listed
[04:39] <Jordan_U> Eric_K: Did you get my last message about nouveau ?
[04:39] <hoohaah> donald_: welcome to *nix, where a reboot is often not needed to fix a problem :)
[04:39] <fryguy> donald_: lsmod | grep ati, what is listed for sound
[04:40] <donald_> snd_hda_codec_atihdmi is not listed under lsmod
[04:40] <fryguy> donald_: yah we already know that
[04:40] <fryguy> what is listed
[04:40] <donald_> would you like a pastebin link?
[04:40] <hoohaah> donald_: not everything
[04:40] <hoohaah> donald_: yes
[04:41] <ZykoticK9> donald_, lsmod lists the module that are currently loaded - if your atihdmi isn't listed , it means it's not loaded as a module (could be build into kernel, and you wouldn't see it - but i doubt it is)
[04:41] <donald_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/184094/
[04:41] <hoohaah> donald_: how did you determine that the ati hdmi driver was at fault?
[04:41] <donald_> i didn't - fryguy suggested it was
[04:42] <hoohaah> lo and behold, it's not even loaded
[04:42] <rizha07> dika
[04:42] <hoohaah> donald_: your onboard realtek device uses hda_intel?
[04:42] <donald_> hoohaah: any suggestions to fix my problem?
[04:42] <donald_> yes
[04:42] <ZykoticK9> donald_, atihdmi is not your problem - it's not currently loaded
[04:42] <donald_> on Ubuntu it does
[04:42] <hoohaah> donald_: and sound is working properly?
[04:42] <donald_> On Windows XP I use Realtek drivers
[04:43] <donald_> sound is NOT working at all
[04:43] <donald_> There is no sound whatsoever
[04:43] <hoohaah> donald_: any sound whatsoever?
[04:43] <hoohaah> donald_: unmuted channels?
[04:43] <ericdb> Ligatures ("fi", "ff", "fl") don't render correctly on my 8.10 install (they look a little smaller and lighter than the surrounding text). It happens with Deja Vu Sans, which is used in a lot of places on my desktop, and a few other fonts...but not in OpenOffice with the same fonts, oddly.  Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this?
[04:43] <hoohaah> donald_: was this setup ever working in the past?
[04:44] <donald_> hoohaah: i just installed Ubuntu like 1 hr ago
[04:44] <hoohaah> donald_: alsamixer
[04:44] <donald_> and it hasn't worked since I've installed
[04:44] <hoohaah> donald_: are you in the audio group?
[04:45] <donald_> I dont know
[04:45] <donald_> lol
[04:45] <hoohaah> donald_: btw, this becoming more and more like a generic alsa question - whose answer lies on the many guides on the internet
[04:45] <hoohaah> donald_: eg. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml
[04:45] <Jordan_U_> ericdb: System > Preferences > Appearance > fonts > advanced, make sure if you have an LCD it is set for LCD, and opposite for CRT
[04:45] <hoohaah> and I'm sure there's an Ubuntu one somewhere
[04:45] <donald_> In alsamixer, it says "card: hda intel" and "chip: realtek alc888"
[04:45] <donald_> nothing is muted, hoohaah
[04:45] <donald_> I'm certain
[04:46] <hoohaah> are all channels maxed?
[04:46] <donald_> yes
[04:46] <iam1721292934> how far upstream can you go? doesn't the river eventually run out? i think there needs to be new terminology. upstream sounds weird.. too corporate, or something
[04:46] <hoohaah> donald_: included "Front" ?
[04:46] <spool32> I need some assistance setting up a DLink WDA-1320 wireless-G nic on Ubuntu 8.0.4.
[04:46] <donald_> hoohaah: yes
[04:46] <spool32>  ifconfig recognizes the device, iwconfig reports that it can see the SSID and the AP, I've added a key for it in both ascii and hex, but no matter what I try I can't get it to receive a dhcp address
[04:46] <hoohaah> donald_: and how are you trying to playback audio?
[04:46] <Artichoke200> NO U CHANSERV
[04:46] <donald_> I was trying with an .mp3 file
[04:47] <ericdb> Jordan_U_: It is set for LCD, not CRT and subpixel hinting is working properly.
[04:47] <donald_> hoohaah: when I go to System > Preferences > Sound and click "Test" it says Testing and Click OK to finish
[04:47] <Pici> !offtopic
[04:47] <donald_> and there is no sound
[04:47] <Artichoke200> NO U
[04:47] <donald_> Its set on "Sound playback: autodetect"
[04:47] <Pici> Artichoke200: Please stop.
[04:48] <hoohaah> donald_: is this spdif output?
[04:48] <donald_> I dont even know what spdif is, hoohaah
[04:48] <donald_> as I said I am still new and learning
[04:48] <hoohaah> aplay --list-devices
[04:48] <ericdb> Jordan_U_: It's actually drawing some pairs of letters a bit too small.  I type "f", and it looks normal, but then I type "i", and I actually see it shrink.
[04:48] <fryguy> why won't anybody listen to me
[04:48] <fryguy> you need to disable the ATI sound
[04:48] <Artichoke200> Pic: NO U
[04:48] <donald_> fryguy, its not even loaded as a module
[04:48] <fryguy> more specifically, make alsa try to detect the other soudn first
[04:49] <fryguy> donald_: it uses the same driver as hda_intel
[04:49] <iam1721292934> if someone's having trouble with their sound i would rec. trying installing pulseaudio..
[04:49] <iam1721292934> especially in 9.04
[04:49] <donald_> hoohaah: there are three listed: alc888 analog, alc888 digital, and ati hdmi
[04:49] <hoohaah> donald_: well I initially suggesting changing the dfault audio device to realtek
[04:49] <artistxe> anyone here using Vesa drivers as a workaround for an ATI radeon card ?
[04:49] <ZykoticK9> iam1721292934, with 8.10 & 9.04 i think pulseaudio is the default and should already be installed
[04:49] <hoohaah> *suggested
[04:49] <donald_> fryguy: can you suggest how to disable ati hdmi?
[04:49] <iam1721292934> not always
[04:50] <iam1721292934> i had an xubuntu where it wasnt
[04:50] <fryguy> donald_: like i told you when you first asked the question, i did this on another machine and don't have the machine in front of me, so you'll have to google
[04:50] <ZykoticK9> iam1721292934, xubuntu might be differenet this is #ubuntu
[04:50] <donald_> hoohaah, in system > preferences > sound I set the card to hda intel alc888 (analog and digital) (ALSA) and neither test provided sound
[04:50] <hoohaah> donald_: try to output to device manually. First, pastebin output of cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:50] <jamiejackson> speaking of problems with sound, i have MB with onboard sound: Realtek ALC650 http://hardware4linux.info/module/VIA_82xx_Audio/ says i need VIA_82xx_Audio module. is that right? if so, how do i get that. if not, what am i supposed to do to enable this audio card?
[04:51] <dan> hello
[04:51] <fryguy> donald_: ignore that, you need to fix the underlying problem before that dialog means anything
[04:51] <dan> I need technical help
[04:51] <hoohaah> donald_: sorry, I don't use Gnome nor KDE on my system
[04:51] <artistxe> jamiejackson, you are getting no sound at all ?
[04:51] <donald_> in fact, its telling me this error when i try hda intel alc888 analog & digital (ALSA): audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback.
[04:51] <hoohaah> donald_: who knows what voodoo those DEs employ to get sound
[04:51] <ZykoticK9> jamiejackson, you could basically follow along with the suggestions being given to donald_
[04:51] <dan> I'm getting no sound
[04:52] <iam1721292934> dan do you have pulseaudio installed
[04:52] <donald_> It says "Could not open audio device for playback."
[04:52] <dan> <--- epc1000he ununtu netbook remix
[04:52] <rockman> 大家好
[04:52] <rockman> 没人？
[04:52] <jamiejackson> okay, ZykoticK9. no sound, artistxe (actually screechy low noise). don't think the card was detected.
[04:52] <dan> idk pulse audio
[04:52] <hoohaah> fryguy: good luck. If it's anything to do with a sound daemon on top of alsa, I haven't the foggiest
[04:52] <rockman> 什么？
[04:52] <hoohaah> lunch time
[04:53] <Flannel> !cn | rockman
[04:53] <jamiejackson> noting in /proc/asound/cards, btw
[04:53] <hoohaah> donald_: sorry. I'm not availaable for a while
[04:53] <jamiejackson> *nothing*
[04:53] <iam1721292934> dan: type in terminal :    dpkg -l pulseaudio
[04:53] <dan> english please
[04:53] <dan> 1 sec
[04:53] <donald_> fryguy: i am brand new to ubuntu and linux altogether. i do not know how to disable ati hdmi and i do not know what to search for on google.
[04:54] <artistxe> jamiejackson, just realized I have pulseaudio installed here. realtek also . that may be your solution ( although I do not remember choosing that package )
[04:54] <iam1721292934> dan: if it says   ...  un pulseaudio ....  then you don't,   ... ii pulseaudio .... then you do
[04:54] <artistxe> video ... ATI ... vesa drivers. anyone ?
[04:54] <jamiejackson> artistxe: what's that package name, do you know?
[04:54] <artistxe> pulseaudio :)
[04:55] <dan> ok
[04:55] <dan> dan@dan-netbook:~$ dpkg -l pulseaudio
[04:55] <dan> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[04:55] <dan> | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[04:55] <dan> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[04:55] <dan> ||/ Name                      Version                   Description
[04:55] <dan> +++-[04:55] <FloodBot3> dan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:55] <artistxe> synaptic if you must
[04:55] <rizha05_> cewrk butuh duit
[04:55] <jamiejackson> dpkg -l pulseaudio shows it installed (ii) for me, btw
[04:55] <iam1721292934> dan only the last line is important
[04:55] <dan> sorry, i have no idea what i'm doing
[04:56] <jamiejackson> artistxe: no, i have pulseaudio already, but i don't think i have whatever module i'm supposed to have for the card
[04:57] <casperfoo> k
[04:57] <casperfoo> oops
[04:57] <eric__> Is there any way I can see a list of the channels on irc.freenode.net?
[04:58] <thehoodinternet> eric__: did you do /list
[04:58] <casperfoo> account list
[04:59] <burvowski> Hi, is it possible/easy to have more than one Ubuntu liveCD on a single usb flash drive? I have a 4 gig drive. Could I, say, put Ubuntu 9.04 on half of it, and Crunchbang on the other half? Would I be able to boot of one or the other at will?
[04:59] <oDuda> hello all ! i need to setup a dialup at ubuntu 9.04 somebody ?
[04:59] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, have you checked you sound preferences, and tried ALSA?  if ALSA works, you problem is something other than the sound card.  This is because Pulseaudio uses alsa for the hardware layer
[04:59] <jamiejackson> yeah, you can do multi-distro usb sticks, burvowski
[05:00] <burvowski> jamiejackson do i just create two different partitions on the flash and that's that?
[05:00] <jamiejackson> burvowski: i don't remember exactly, but that's part of the gist
[05:00] <dan> what is ALSA?
[05:00] <burvowski> cool i'll give it a shot
[05:00] <rdw200169> dan, advance linux sound architecture.  its the link between the sound card, and the software
[05:00] <jamiejackson> there are howtos out there for multidistro usb sticks, afaik, burvowski
[05:01] <mikeh789> I'm having clipboard issues with vnc, what do you guys do??
[05:01] <rdw200169> dan, there used to be OSS, but we don't use that anymore in ubuntu
[05:01] <jamiejackson> rdw200169: i've tried all the architectures, i think my card was never detected tho
[05:01] <dan> thanks rdw
[05:01] <jamiejackson> mikeh789: try the older rdp version (4?)
[05:02] <mikeh789> jamiejackson, will do
[05:02] <artistxe> burvowski  http://people.ofset.org/~ckhung/p/mk-boot-usb/index.php
[05:02] <jamiejackson> i know that tsclient had a mixup where you'd select rdp and it'd actually do v4, but picking rdp4 would actually do 5, mikeh789
[05:02] <jamiejackson> and the clipboard works better with one than the other
[05:02] <Caleb101> Hi people
[05:02] <intx> how do I measure cluster speed in linux? (e.g. 1k 2k 4k 8k 16k 32k)
[05:02] <Caleb101> I need some help
[05:02] <marcelo__> hoooooooolaaaaaaaaa
[05:03] <oDuda> hello all ! i need to setup a dialup at ubuntu 9.04 somebody ?
[05:03] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, do you get anything when you type 'asoundconf list'?
[05:03] <jamiejackson> oh, sorry mikeh789, i read rdp instead of vnc, so my advice will steer you astray. don't remember if my clipboard works with the tsclient vnc or not
[05:03] <Caleb101> Is there a tool to put an ubuntu distro onto my USB?
[05:03] <iam1721292934> Caleb101: yep
[05:03] <jamiejackson> nothing with that command, rdw200169
[05:04] <mikeh789> jamiejackson, I'm just trying to copy remote to local
[05:04] <bwild> jamiejackson: vnc uses the rdp protocol
[05:04] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, yeah, thats a bad sign :(
[05:04] <dan> It says Intel
[05:04] <Caleb101> iam1721292934:What is it?
[05:04] <mikeh789> and its in the f8 menu, ut it doen't work
[05:04] <dan> asoundconf list = Intel
[05:04] <jamiejackson> i can throw a card  in here, but i'd rather not. what's it mean when it won't even detect, rdw200169?
[05:04] <ZykoticK9> Caleb101, on 9.04 System / Administration / USB Startup Disk Creater
[05:04] <rdw200169> dan, are you also having sound problems?
[05:05] <Caleb101> Im 8.10?
[05:05] <pw-toxic> hi - can someone help me with installing the java servlet library for eclipse?
[05:05] <pw-toxic> i just dont know what to do..
[05:05] <dan> yes! sound prbs here
[05:05] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, chances are the kernel is having problems detecting your sound card.  from here, you're going to have to dig pretty deep.  there may be a little help in /var/log/syslog
[05:05] <dan> no sounds at all
[05:05] <Gain> any good dock/widget applications?
[05:05] <telaviv> hello i'm having a problem with opengl. This bug report states that i can use the old Hardy Heron version of opengl. How would i find that?
[05:05] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, do you know anything about your card?  model/manufacturer etc...?
[05:05] <pw-toxic> i have installed the libservlet2.5-java  but within eclipse   the HttpServlet cant be found...
[05:06] <jamiejackson> pw-toxic: maybe you'll have more luck in #eclipse?
[05:06] <telaviv> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/318043
[05:06] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson, well they can tell me how to do it in windows ;)
[05:06] <rdw200169> dan, first thing you do, before anything else, is make sure the levels are up.  double click on the sound volume icon in your taskbar thing, this pulls up the volume control window
[05:06] <jamiejackson> oh well, i've gotten good ubuntu support for eclipse there. bad time of day i guess
[05:06] <dan> I haven't jioned launchpad
[05:07] <dan> ok, volume 100%
[05:07] <rdw200169> dan, whoops, i forgot they changed that in 9.04. right click and select volume control
[05:07] <bwild> Caleb101: um maybe syslinux -sf /dev/sdx1
[05:07] <jamiejackson> rdw200169: the mb supposedly has Realtek ALC650 aboard
[05:07] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson,  maybe i should just take my pc and throw it out of the windows ;)
[05:07] <WIGGMPk> Anyone have any luck with installing gfxboot on a ext4 /boot partition in Jaunty?
[05:07] <Caleb101> ZykoticK9: But i want my usb to be a portable ubuntu, not a live cd. I want to be able to save my settings, without having to reconfigure whenever i reboot
[05:07] <dan> ok
[05:07] <rdw200169> dan, now, click preferences, and make sure *all* the options are checked
[05:07] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, step one is to google that with 'ubuntu' and see what comes up
[05:08] <telaviv> does anyone know how to get the hardy heron version of libGL.so.1.2 ?
[05:08] <rdw200169> dan, its possible that something as simple as a hidden volume control is all the way down.  for some reason, this is a very common problem
[05:08] <bwild> rdw200169: like this? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-x-ubuntu-610/
[05:08] <dan> ALC269
[05:08] <ZykoticK9> can someone throw up the !whatever for Caleb101 on persistant USB?
[05:08] <Caleb101> !whatever Caleb101
[05:08] <rdw200169> bwild, i think you got the wrong one ;)
[05:09] <Caleb101> :P
[05:09] <axisys> i went back to ff 3.0.10 and youtube now has sound
[05:09] <jamiejackson> oh, one thing that slipped my mind, but shouldn't have, rdw200169 i did find a driver online for the thing, but i think i was looking for something native. i'll just go that route, then. i'm multitasking and temporarily forgot about that avenue
[05:09] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, if that doesn't come up with anything useful, try googling the model of the motherboard.
[05:09] <greato> Hello! I want to download complete ubuntu for my 32-bit computer
[05:09] <iam1721292934> no it only comes in 8bit
[05:10] <fryguy> greato: www.ubuntu.com
[05:10] <greato> I already opened it
[05:10] <mezquitale> is there a channel for networking???
[05:10] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, one of the good things about ubuntu, is that its likely someone else already had and solved your problem ;)
[05:10] <onexused> greato: Hello!  ubuntu.com
[05:10] <jamiejackson> pw-toxic: what are you trying to do to eclipse again?
[05:10] <fryguy> greato: installation media is available for download there
[05:10] <iam1721292934> Caleb101: try apt-cache search usb | grep install
[05:10] <rdw200169> dan, any luck?
[05:10] <Jordan_U_> Caleb101: How large is your drive?
[05:10] <FOXDIE_> greato: You will need to grab the 32bit iso of Jaunty
[05:10] <Caleb101> 4gb
[05:10] <rdw200169> mezquitale, I can help you
[05:10] <Caleb101> Toshiba
[05:10] <dan> Why does it show 5 mixers? that'a crazy, I only have one sound output device
[05:10] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson, i think it's not an eclipse problem anyway.. i just want to be able to import any javax.servlet.* library
[05:11] <rdw200169> dan, just focus on, likely, the Front, PCM, and Master volume meters
[05:11] <mezquitale> rdw200169, what use would it be to log in to someone else's router and place a static route in the router settings???
[05:11] <pw-toxic> and i thought installing libservlet2.5-java from the package manager should do this.. but it doesnt help
[05:11] <pedrinhobrito> heu im drunk. doens any oen kneo any commando that wll make me get no hangonver tomorro?
[05:11] <jamiejackson> pw-toxic: so do you have the jars downloaded?
[05:11] <rdw200169> dan, i'm assuming that you're plugged into the Front jack
[05:11] <dan> ok
[05:11] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson,  what jars?!
[05:11] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: water
[05:11] <rdw200169> mezquitale, static routes are somewhat useful, but usually unnecessary
[05:11] <bwild> rdw200169: kk; how about? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTRXerYTDbo
[05:11] <greato> hello! anyone here have ubuntu latest version so that I can download from their machine using torrent but privately
[05:11] <dan> it has built in speakers, good ones too
[05:12] <FOXDIE_> greato: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[05:12] <rdw200169> dan, generally, those are tied to the Front
[05:12] <git__> i'm coming to recognize Real Player is the only true player in Linux
[05:12] <jamiejackson> actually, pw-toxic, those are just part of eclipse, right (assuming you do the j2ee installation of it)?
[05:12] <fryguy> git__: lol
[05:12] <mezquitale> rdw200169, ok well for what purpose you would put a static route in a router?
[05:12] <greato> Foxdie is it latest version
[05:12] <FOXDIE_> greato: Yes
[05:12] <git__> the rest is pretty mediocre
[05:13] <greato> ok i am on ubuntu website
[05:13] <fryguy> mezquitale: when you want to communicate with another router and you aren't sending routes to the other router via rip, ospf, or another routing protocol
[05:13] <greato> which country should I choose
[05:13] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson, yes i have the j2ee installation of it, but eclipse is just a set of tools to support the development..  java itself is not a part of eclipse
[05:13] <FOXDIE_> greato: If you tell me what country your in I can give you a closer server!
[05:13] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy it says comando not ggound
[05:13] <mezquitale> git__, real player? LoL you need to try rhythmbox
[05:13] <jamiejackson> pw-toxic: are you using sun's java, or that gcj stuff?
[05:14] <rdw200169> mezquitale, basically, static routing involves manually mangling the routing table, for linking up WAN networks.  Nowadays, this is primarily taken care of by OSPF, ISIS, etc... because they are adaptive protocols.
[05:14]  * git__ checks out rhythmbox
[05:14] <greato> hello! what is the total size of ubuntu
[05:14] <fryguy> greato: what do you mean by "total size?"
[05:14] <rdw200169> mezquitale, if you need to route to *different* networks, use static routing.  for example, if you need 192.168.0.0/24 and 192.168.1.0/24 to talk to each other.  *then* you would use static routing.
[05:14] <usser> greato, install cd?
[05:14] <greato> no DVD
[05:14] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson, suns's
[05:14] <usser> greato, 4 gigs
[05:15] <greato> but the iso file is showing only 689 MB
[05:15] <fryguy> greato: installation media fits on a CD, so < 800mb, standard install is around 3 gb, a "total" install of EVERYTHING is hundreds of gigs
[05:15] <FOXDIE_> greato: Can your PC boot from a USB
[05:15] <mezquitale> rdw200169,  ok well some idiot keeps logging in to my router and placing a static route to some naval server
[05:15] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson, if i do javac ASDF.java  he tells me the same problem: he cant find javax.servlet.*
[05:15] <Flannel> fryguy: not hundreds.  Dozens.
[05:15] <thehoodinternet> i believe i am seeing the highest wifi speeds ever
[05:16] <greato> ok I am going to download ubuntu whose iso file size is 698 MB so is it DVD version or CD version
[05:16] <fryguy> Flannel: i'm pretty sure installing every package in base/universe/multiverse is going to be more than 200gb
[05:16] <fryguy> greato: cd
[05:16] <thehoodinternet> greato either or
[05:16] <rdw200169> mezquitale, you put up with that?  I think your problems are a little bigger than a simple static route !
[05:16] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy it says comando not ggound
[05:16] <Ninja2k> hey I've got a quick question. I'm using an acer Aspire one netbook with 9.04 ubuntu one it. problem plenty of windows run off the bottom of the screen. In the past. I would just alt+click the window and move it up, it seems to be a stopping at the top bar now and won't go past it
[05:16] <Ninja2k> any ideas
[05:16] <raden> can someone tell me how diffrent gnome is i been using kde forever
[05:16] <GW76> hi ppl i have a question, how do i find out if my X server is running? im trying to install a video card driver that i got from its site but when i try to install it it says that i have X Server running
[05:16] <fryguy> raden: try it and see
[05:17] <ZykoticK9> Ninja2k, try disable compiz and see if you can drag it above (i bet you will)
[05:17] <fryguy> GW76: why are you using a driver from outside of ubuntu
[05:17] <Ninja2k> raden: more light weight
[05:17] <bart_> guys i just happened to try the k environment on my ubuntu desktop and to be true it's fantastic i was kind of wondering why kubuntu is less popular than ubuntu
[05:17] <Ninja2k> okay let me try that
[05:17] <rdw200169> GW76, ps -AF | grep X
[05:17] <dan> darn it, nothing yet
[05:17]  * raden sitting here installing distro dont know if i should go KDE or gnome 
[05:17] <Darn> ?
[05:17] <rdw200169> dan, do you have it set to use PulseAudio or ALSA?
[05:17] <fryguy> bart_: because ubuntu came first and is more publicly marketted
[05:17] <unko> can someone help me with my installation? here's my output: http://pastie.org/494737
[05:17] <onexused> raden: You can always install the other one later
[05:17] <Ninja2k> gnome if you want performances
[05:17] <GW76> fryguy its not outside ubuntu its for linux and its the latest driver for my card since the one from ubuntu is not really the latest one
[05:17] <pedrinhobrito> raden, go xfce
[05:17] <usser> bart_, because kde is buggy and too windows like
[05:18] <fryguy> raden: it's easy enough to switch between them, so it doesn't really matter
[05:18] <mezquitale> rdw200169, it hasnt happened in the past week or so, I dont know  how they are able to get in to my router, I changed the password and all, i was wondering why they would want to have a static route to a naval server???  i wasn't able to view google and other web pages with that static route in linksys router
[05:18] <dan> HDA Intel ALSA
[05:18] <WIGGMPk> raden: I would say Gnome because its sleek compared to KDE but KDE offers more functionality.
[05:18] <raden> fryguy, i can install both ?
[05:18] <fryguy> GW76: ubuntu provides drivers for you, integrated with the package management system, use those
[05:18] <fryguy> raden: yes
[05:18] <onexused> raden: Yes, as well as several others : )
[05:18] <raden> WIGGMPk, more functionality how ?
[05:18] <Ninja2k> interesting.
[05:18] <greato> hello! I need full version of ubuntu
[05:18] <Ninja2k> it works
[05:18] <greato> I don't want LIVE CD of ubuntu
[05:18] <fryguy> greato: the livecd IS the full version
[05:18] <greato> I  want complete ubuntu
[05:18] <greato> ok thx
[05:18] <WIGGMPk> raden: it just has more things readily available.. maybe functionality was a bad word..
[05:18] <onexused> greato: You install the full version from the liveCD
[05:19] <ZykoticK9> Ninja2k, it's a know bug with some versions of compiz - don't know the fix, sorry
[05:19] <rdw200169> mezquitale, generally, static routes are used to link up two routers, without having NAT in the middle, in off-the-shelf brand routers
[05:19] <hoohaah> greato: installation packages are contained within cd, and can be obtained remotely
[05:19] <thehoodinternet> 1.2 MB/s - wifi - ktorrent -  ubuntu 9.04
[05:19] <bart_> the live cd contains the complete ubuntu distro and installation means greato
[05:19] <raden> WIGGMPk, allows you to control more so to speak ?
[05:19] <GW76> fryguy im trying to get the latest and i know it does but the version ubunut is giving me is not the latest..
[05:19] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson,  i have installed some jave_ee_SDK which is maybe the solution
[05:19] <Ninja2k> maybe I should try to put it back and enable modules one at a time and seeing which is being the problem
[05:19] <fryguy> GW76: why do you need the latest?
[05:19] <WIGGMPk> raden: I was proposed with the same complex once. The only satisfaction I found was to try both and make a decision on my own thoughts
[05:20] <mezquitale> bart_, i like ubuntu better because it's tons FASTER than KDE, i used to use kubuntu and resisted using gnome but for my gaming  ubuntu helps a lot so i used gnome and never looked back
[05:20] <Ninja2k> anyways, at least that gets me running again!
[05:20] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson,  it is installed in opt/SDK/ ... but i dont know how i could use it
[05:20] <fryguy> GW76: upgrading for no reason is asking for trouble, and using drivers outside the scope of ubuntu is just going to give you maintenance problems
[05:20] <raden> WIGGMPk, which one you use and are you a home or business user etc ?
[05:20] <Ninja2k> Thank you all!
[05:20] <GW76> cause im trying to see if that will make me play runescape on hd which i am having problems playing it
[05:20] <WIGGMPk> raden: yes. Gnome allows you to control everything, but it might take more to get the control, where as KDE is just jammed packed with settings control
[05:20] <BeatlesFan> hi, can anybody sort of walk me through setting up access to a network drive via vpnc ?
[05:20] <mezquitale> rdw200169, thank you for the help, ever heard of back doors in routers??
[05:21] <rdw200169> mezquitale, for example, in a linksys wireless router, the static route is directly involved with the 'broadband' port; this would be used to have a second layer lan network behind the first connected to the internet via NAT.  it allows all traffic to pass between the first and second without hiding the IP addresses behind NAT.  The reason Linksys routers do this is so that you have the option.  most people, though, in that situation ju
[05:21] <rdw200169> st use the linksys router as a switch, and bypass having to set up a second network just to extend their services
[05:21] <WIGGMPk> raden: I use Gnome, I am both home and business.. Its sleek, simple, and well thought out. But again, I urge, almost beg you to try both and get a feel for each and make a decision based on how you like them..
[05:21] <dan> would Pulse Audio be better?
[05:21] <fryguy> dan: no
[05:21] <rdw200169> mezquitale, thus, DHCP, etc..., would piggyback through the second linksys wireless router-made-switch to the first
[05:22] <rdw200169> dan, you're not getting anything from alsa?
[05:22] <bart_> well but kubuntu can be great for a linux first timer i guess would certainly make him feel more at home
[05:22] <fryguy> rdw200169: that's a terrible example of static routes, and a terrible example of network topology
[05:22] <WIGGMPk> raden: the best thing I have learned about Linux and the display managers is choose.. You can ask everyone's opinion on a specific program, tool, broswer, or window manager, and everyone will like something else for some reason.. You should formulate the decision for yourself though
[05:22] <rdw200169> dan, the trick here is, alsa *must* work or pulseaudio never will.  pulseaudio runs *on top of* alsa
[05:22] <mezquitale> rdw200169,  thanks again for all the info, now it's time to frag in UrT, im addicted to that thing!  LoL
[05:23] <rdw200169> fryguy, why don't you *.  I gave a quick synopsis, and a lazy example.  I'm not an RFC.  more information, and better information can, and should, be found elsewhere.
[05:24] <BeatlesFan> anyone familiar with access to network drive via vpnc?
[05:25] <The_Mime> was ubuntu invented by umberto
[05:25] <hipitihop> can someone tell me how to setup remote mount(s) so that installed applications and corresponding packages do not use local hdd space ?
[05:25] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy, are you braisilia?
[05:25] <pedrinhobrito> brazilian
[05:25] <fryguy> hipitihop: just add the corresponding sshfs/nfs/samba mounts to /etc/fstab
[05:25] <fryguy> [pErry]: no
[05:25] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: no
[05:25] <jamiejackson> pw-toxic: i think you need to install a j2ee app server maybe, like if you get glassfish, i think you'll be able to use that jar
[05:25] <marcelo__> helo
[05:25] <ZykoticK9> (it's after midnight EST so I can ask my once daily question again) does anyone have jscal working under 9.04?  it works fine under 8.10 but seems to have no effect on 9.04
[05:26] <pedrinhobrito> why not?
[05:26] <marcelo__> hello
[05:26] <jakuphl> hello. I have installed ubuntu on an external hard disk, but I get grub error 17 on boot
[05:26] <jakuphl> any ideas?
[05:26] <fryguy> jakuphl: you didn't install grub to the right location (or you didn't install it where you think you did)
[05:26] <hipitihop> fryguy: but I don't know where the system normal stores stuff e.g. if I do an apt-get install, where does it all go ?
[05:26] <jakuphl> yes, I removed the internal hdd before I installed
[05:26] <fryguy> hipitihop: /usr/
[05:26] <fryguy> hipitihop: and /var
[05:27] <lstarnes> hipitihop: check dpkg -L packagename
[05:27] <jakuphl> fryguy: so where should it otherwise go
[05:27] <fryguy> jakuphl: the other hard drive
[05:27] <jakuphl> fryguy:  I removed the internal hdd before I installed
[05:27] <fryguy> jakuphl: so now grub thinks that your internal hard drive is your external hard drive
[05:27] <hipitihop> fryguy: so I would need to mount to remote shares to /var and /usr equivalent ?
[05:27] <fryguy> and it's looking there
[05:27] <fryguy> hipitihop: yep
[05:27] <rdw200169> seems like every time i try to help someone in here some **ho*** finds himself compelled to be a grammar/semantics/concept/protocol/etc... nazi.  get over yourselves, and go outside or something.
[05:28] <lstarnes> hipitihop: that might not be very safe though
[05:28] <lstarnes> rdw200169: this isn't the place for making comments about how the channel is operated
[05:28] <jakuphl> fryguy: but... my internal hard drive is laying on my table, and it has been here the whole time
[05:28] <fryguy> hipitihop: if you are going to go that far though, just use bootp and run diskless
[05:28] <Pafs321> hi! i just updated my system, and with the new kernel (2.6.28-12), my webcam (microsoft VX-1000), i reinstalled the v4l driver, and it finds the webcam only problem is that the image is green, when i logged on the 2.6.28-11 version of the kernel it worked great.. anyone has an idea of what's going on?
[05:29] <dan> it's not working
[05:29] <rdw200169> lstarnes, thats fine.  i find myself coming here quite rarely anyway.
[05:29] <hipitihop> lstarnes: thanks at least cans ee where things go now.
[05:29] <fryguy> jakuphl: then ubuntu messed up installing grub, just reinstall it, follow one of the many guides available on the internet, in ubuntu forums, or on the ubuntu wiki
[05:29] <jakuphl> fryguy: thanks.. I will do some more digging.
[05:29] <lstarnes> hipitihop: you may also want to check the man page for the filesystem heirarchy (see "man hier")
[05:30] <hipitihop> fryguy: I currently have 9.04 fully installed on usb flash stick but only have about 1.1gb free so don't want user to go off and install stuff and quickly fill it up
[05:30] <dan> nada from alsa
[05:30] <selammm> .
[05:30] <dan> i didn't do it
[05:30] <hipitihop> lstarnes: thanks
[05:31] <dan> I'm using 9.04 and the audio doesn't work
[05:31] <JNSamuel> upgrade to hardy.
[05:31] <fryguy> JNSamuel: hardy is older than what he's using
[05:31] <hipitihop> fryguy: are you suggesting I'd be better off with bootp for such a setup, links ?
[05:32] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy, do you know how i can make an exponencial regression fitting from a data table in grace or gnuplot?
[05:32] <JNSamuel> exactly, somewhat more stable :)
[05:32] <spool32> I need some assistance setting up a DLink WDA-1320 wireless-G nic on Ubuntu 8.0.4.
[05:32] <spool32>  ifconfig recognizes the device, iwconfig reports that it can see the SSID and the AP, I've added a key for it in both ascii and hex, but no matter what I try I can't get it to receive a dhcp address
[05:32] <jared> anyone mind helping me with a sound problem on ubuntu 9.04?
[05:32] <spool32> Anyone?
[05:32] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: nope, no idea why you'd ask me
[05:32] <JNSamuel> long term support, too.
[05:32] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy, you're the guy whos solving everyone's doubts tonight
[05:32] <hipitihop> jared: ask your question, if someone knows answer then they will respond
[05:32] <fryguy> hipitihop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[05:33] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: i'm not solving any problems, i don't know anything, i just copy/paste people's questions into google and copy/paste the first result usually
[05:33] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy, really?
[05:33] <JNSamuel> lmfao
[05:33] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: yes
[05:33] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: i don't use ubuntu
[05:33] <spool32> nobody has a clue re: wireless cards.
[05:33] <spool32> ?
[05:34] <dan> hardy?
[05:34] <jared> my problem is that sound plays for default ubuntu sounds when i select them in sound theme, but for everything else on the OS sound quit working.. when I have a headset in I can hear myself talking via the mic but other than that sound doesn't work at all on the system- I've googled and tried playing with settings to no avail and I'm clueless as to why it doesn't work. I'm using standard jack speakers and/or a logitech premium usb headset 350, can anyo
[05:34] <jared> ne help?
[05:34] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy, what do you use? obs: im chocked
[05:34] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: freebsd
[05:34] <dan> internet connection is acting bad too
[05:34] <F0XDIE> exit
[05:35] <hipitihop> lstarnes: fryguy: thanks for your help, I'll go and read up.
[05:35] <sighK> what up peoples
[05:35] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy, what are you doing here then? planning on migrating?
[05:35] <sighK> i think i have a good idea
[05:35] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: migrate from freebsd to ubuntu? lol
[05:35] <sighK> any one wana hear
[05:35] <spool32> hey sigger
[05:35] <sighK> for ubuntu
[05:36] <spool32> erm sighK
[05:36] <hobbet1> I have a external WD 500 gig MYBOOK can somebody tell me if it is normal that it take longer for the computer startup in linux then when it is hooked up when i go into windows?
[05:36] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy,  whats so funny
[05:36] <pedrinhobrito> ?
[05:36] <ziroday> sighK: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com or #ubuntu-offtopic are probably better places :)
[05:36] <sighK> ok take a web browser, open source. strip out all protocol handlers
[05:36] <sighK> keep file
[05:36] <sighK> create a new one called exec
[05:36] <sighK> and have it run system commands
[05:36] <sighK> and render them as html
[05:36] <Apollo2366> Hey, why am I not getting voice on #defocus?
[05:36] <sighK> firefox-terminal
[05:36] <greato> anyone from India
[05:36] <sighK> or something
[05:37] <ziroday> Apollo2366: not the right place to ask
[05:37] <Chr|s> !enter | sighK
[05:37] <ziroday> greato: #ubuntu-in :)
[05:37] <greato> thx
[05:37] <Apollo2366> ziroday: where should I ask, then?
[05:37] <ziroday> sighK: I explained to you were to announce your idea
[05:37] <ziroday> Apollo2366: #freenode
[05:37] <Apollo2366> ziroday: mkay thanks.
[05:38] <sighK> .join #debian
[05:38] <spool32> I have a good idea too. Somebody could help me getting this damned WDA-1320 to receive a DHCP address, adn then I can move the jet-engine HP server off my desk. Right now th ekids are playing cat5-limbo with its connection to my router, and buying a longer ethernet cable just feels like fail.
[05:38] <whatvn> sorry for asking non-ubuntu question, is there any irc channel about network out there?
[05:39] <ziroday> whatvn: ##networking, and don't ask here as you know you're not meant to
[05:39] <greato> no indian replying in #ubuntu-in
[05:39] <ziroday> greato: you need to be patient
[05:39] <whatvn> ziroday: thanks
[05:39] <greato> ok
[05:39] <ziroday> spool32: I'll give it ago :). The wireless card is PCI?
[05:40] <spool32> ziroday: it is.
[05:40] <bullgard4> Does Empathy produce sounds at status events or not?
[05:40] <pedrinhobrito> someone tell me romantic stuff i could text to my gf
[05:40] <ziroday> spool32: can you pastebin lspci please
[05:40] <spool32> ziroday: hang on.
[05:40] <ziroday> !offtopic | pedrinhobrito
[05:43] <spool32> ziroday: OK
[05:43] <selammm> SeLamun aLeykum
[05:44] <ziroday> spool32: link?
[05:44] <spool32> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m46630c7c
[05:44] <ziroday> spool32: thank you
[05:45] <ziroday> spool32: okay you have an Atheros AR2413, what version of ubuntu?
[05:45] <spool32> ziroday: 8.0.4 I believe... it's an 8.x distribution for sur.
[05:45] <spool32> *sure
[05:45] <ziroday> spool32: doing lsb_release -a will tell you
[05:46] <spool32> ziroday: yep. hardy, 8.04.2
[05:47] <ziroday> spool32: okay, well upgrading to 9.04 may have that card working OOTB
[05:47] <ziroday> spool32: or you can try compile a newer version of madwifi for that card, but I strongly recommend upgrading to 9.04
[05:48] <spool32> unfortunately I can't... this is a test machine for QA of updates and scripts for a game server, and the live box runs v8
[05:48] <ZykoticK9> spool32, might be of interest too you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=659118, no solution there unfortunately
[05:49] <ziroday> spool32: right, in that case you'll have to compile newer madwifi drivers. Lemme see if I can pull up a document on that
[05:49] <spool32> ziroday: can't jack with the OS version, sadly.
[05:49] <spool32> what is this madwifi?
[05:49] <ziroday> spool32: its the driver for that card
[05:50] <ziroday> spool32: err I'm sorry I have to shoot out now. I'm sure somebody else will be able to help
[05:50] <spool32> I thought madwifi was some sort of alternate driver resource.
[05:50] <spool32> OK
[05:50] <spool32> ziroday: thanks anyhow.
[05:50] <hipitihop> can someone tell me if it is possible to have a normal desktop user (non admin) but allow them to install programs from add remove or synaptic ?
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> hipitihop, that's what an admin user can do
[05:51] <spool32> someone else? Further support possibly? I'n not convinced it's a driver issue because iwconfig claims that the card can see the WIFI network and the access point.
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> spool32, what happens when you try to connect to the network?
[05:52] <hipitihop> ZykoticK9: sure but does that not also give them all sort of other rights administering the system ?
[05:52] <spool32> zykes-: dhclient never receives a response from the DHCP server on the wireless router.
[05:52] <spool32> erm
[05:52] <spool32> ZykoticK9: *points up*
[05:52] <Pafs321> hi! i just updated my system, to the new kernel (2.6.28-12), my webcam is a microsoft VX-1000, and it stopped working, i reinstalled the v4l library, and the webcam started to work but the image is green, i tested on cheese and skype, when i logged on the 2.6.28-11 version of the kernel the webcam worked normally... anyone has an idea of what's the problem?
[05:52] <ZykoticK9> spool32, does it Connect to the wireless network ok?
[05:53] <spool32> ZykoticK9: with eth0 (wired nic) it works instantly. It appears to connect, at least iwconfig claims that it is seeing the SSID and the AP.
[05:53] <spool32> but I can never get an IP address.
[05:53] <shruthi> I have to run this rmmod ssb  modprobe wl everytime to connect to wireless, how can I automate this
[05:54] <ZykoticK9> spool32, is there a network icon in the top right that you can use to connect to wireless networks?  (i don't remember 8.04 very well)
[05:54] <spool32> ZykoticK9: there is... I used it to config the card and it looks fine, but the card never receives an IP.
[05:55] <ZykoticK9> spool32, IP comes after connecting to the wireless network, which is step 1
[05:56] <shruthi> ou might navigate to in /etc/crontab, and enter
[05:56] <shruthi> "@reboot root <sudo rmmod ssb>"
[05:56] <shruthi> "@reboot root <sudo modprobe wl"
[05:56] <ZykoticK9> spool32, what wireless security are you using?  have you put in the passkey/phrase into the wireless connection setting?  there must be a way to actually try to connect to wireless networks - do you see a list anywhere?
[05:57] <spool32> ZykoticK9: open WEP, and there's a place to enter the key in that network config section. I've done this, both as a hex value and as ascii (it gives me an option to do either).
[05:58] <ZykoticK9> spool32, "open WEP"?  what do you mean
[05:58] <spool32> WEP has an 'open' and a 'shared (or Restricted)' mode.
[05:59] <hipitihop> I have a fully installed jaunty on a usb flash drive from which the machine boots... from another machine is there an easy way to take a complete copy of this flashdrive using dd or simialr so if the user stuff the flash drive I can easily reinstate ?
[05:59] <JabberWalkie_2> JabberWalkie
[06:01] <ed_debian> hipitihop, The last bit of your question doesn't make sense.  "using dd or similar so if the user stuff the flash drive I can easily reinstate" ?
[06:02] <hipitihop> ed_debian: if the user trasheds the usb flash drive or loses it, I would like to simply copy onto new drive from my nas
[06:02]  * spool32 spams channel with 4 lines
[06:02] <spool32> IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"2WIRE391"  Nickname:""
[06:02] <spool32>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: 00:1E:C7:46:AF:19
[06:02] <spool32>           Bit Rate:48 Mb/s   Tx-Power:18 dBm   Sensitivity=1/1
[06:02] <spool32>           Retry:off   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[06:02] <spool32>           Encryption key:3033-3634-2D31-3433-302D-3234   Security mode:open
[06:02] <FloodBot3> spool32: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:02] <ed_debian> sucks to be you spool32
[06:02] <spool32> hah, damnit I thought I coudl get away with less than 5
[06:02] <spool32> :(
[06:02] <hipitihop> ed_debian: reading this so maybe that's what I need http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1122331.html
[06:03] <oDuda> please ubuntu 9.04 and dial up connection...
[06:03] <ed_debian> hipitihop, Looks to me like all you have to do is dd!
[06:04] <spool32> ZykoticK9: http://pastebin.com/m63a86d6a
[06:04] <ed_debian> oDuda, I have never set up a dial-up connection.  I will try and help if you like.  How about it?
[06:04] <hipitihop> ed_debian: does the usb flash have to be mounted or not
[06:05] <ed_debian> hipitihop, It needs to be mounted
[06:05] <oDuda> ed_debian thank you ! i need just to create a dialup connection in 9.04
[06:05] <ed_debian> alright
[06:05] <ed_debian> oDuda, What have we tried so far?
[06:06] <ZykoticK9> spool32, what happens when you run "sudo dhclient ath0" right now?
[06:06] <oDuda> ed_debian i  tried pppconfig... and then pppd... but nothing working at all...
[06:07] <ed_debian> hipitihop, When you "mount" you are giving yourself access to a file-system.  You don't actually mount a device you mount a file-system on that device (byi)
[06:07] <ed_debian> (fyi*)
[06:07] <spool32> ZykoticK9: one sec
[06:07] <ed_debian> Have you seent his?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[06:07] <trappist> when I attach to a screen in gnome-terminal, its width gets resized to what looks like about 80 characters.  height's not affected.  any ideas why?
[06:07] <oDuda> ed_debian ill see it ! ty
[06:07] <ed_debian> sure
[06:07] <trappist> just confirmed, it's 80
[06:08] <Hogarth> hi there, I have a few problems. I can´t get the apostrophe key to make an apostrophe. How do I apostrophe?
[06:08] <hipitihop> ed_debian: I see, so if I ever needed to dd it back to another flash drive ? sounds like I would need to first match partions and all that
[06:08] <oDuda> ed_debian ubuntu 9.04 comes without wvdial*
[06:09] <spool32> ZykoticK9: http://pastebin.com/d74b9ff8e
[06:09] <ed_debian> hipitihop, What do you mean "match partitions" ?
[06:09] <Hogarth> when I type the apostrpohe, it pauses then adds a symbol that I don´t think is an apostrophe. I also have to hold down the key to get it to make the apostrophe.
[06:10] <ed_debian> oDuda,  ok?
[06:10] <ed_debian> oDuda, Do you need it?
[06:10] <mah> hogarth: does it make superscript?
[06:10] <ZykoticK9> spool32, sorry man i don't have any other ideas?
[06:10] <oDuda> ed_debian appears that i need... but im now with windows and i have no way to put it at linux
[06:10] <mah> hogarth: try ~, then 1 and see if you get superscript
[06:11] <hipitihop> ed_debian: well I'm guessing to even mount the usb flash drive, I would need gparted and setup same partions as I had on original flash drive ?
[06:11] <spool32> ZykoticK9: thanks, I appreciate the help.. maybe I'll try moving up to 9.04 and see if it causes a shitstorm with the QA team.
[06:11] <Hogarth> Imah, I wouldn´t know how to make it do superscript, but sometimes it accents letters that I don´t want accented. Oh, it also beeps inside of the computer.
[06:11] <ed_debian> oDuda, I was about to ask that.  How are you talking on an irc client if you can't get internet to work?  You're running windows right now?
[06:11] <Hogarth> sorry, I was typing when you posted.
[06:11] <ed_debian> hipitihop, What is on your flash drive right now?  Random things?
[06:11] <trappist> odd, apt-file search gives me: W: Don't know how to handle https: Bad file descriptor
[06:12]  * spool32 heads off 
[06:12] <spool32> thanks folks!
[06:12] <Hogarth> no, mah, no super script.
[06:12] <hipitihop> ed_debian: full jaunty installation ... told it to use the entire drive 4gb
[06:12] <oDuda> ed_debian argh .. yes with rwindows...
[06:12] <ed_debian> hipitihop, Ok before when you had random stuff on it.  You plugged it into your computer from time to time and a nautilus window popped up showing the contents of the drive correct?
[06:12] <Pafs321> hi! i just updated my system, to the new kernel (2.6.28-12), my webcam is a microsoft VX-1000, and it stopped working, i reinstalled the v4l library, and the webcam started to work but the image is green, i tested on cheese and skype, when i logged on the 2.6.28-11 version of the kernel the webcam worked normally... anyone has an idea of what's the problem?
[06:13] <hipitihop> ed_debian: just want to backup this install to a file on my nas incase the user does something with the flash drive so it is easy to create another one
[06:13] <oDuda> ed_debian i already know my serial port (ttyS0)... but nothing more i can do...
[06:13] <jakuphl> !grub
[06:13] <hipitihop> ed_debian: remember this flash driver is bootable
[06:14] <ed_debian> hipitihop, Yes I know that I'm trying to explain what mounting is.
[06:14] <hipitihop> ed_debian: sorry, go on
[06:14] <oDuda> ed_debian at 8.xx i used wired connection under network connections...  with 9.04 i dont identificate this...
[06:14] <jakuphl> ok.. I have searched everywhere, but I keep getting grub error 17
[06:14] <gartral> I have a proccess that's been zombied for days, how do i kill it?
[06:15] <jakuphl> I physically removed the internal hdd and installed ubuntu on an external hdd,
[06:15] <ed_debian> When you plug a usb drive into the system a nautilus window pops up and displays the contents of the drive.  When this happnes the system automatically mounted the drive for you.  All mounting means is taking a file-system and making it available in a file on your current file system (usually /media/something)
[06:15] <ed_debian> hipitihop, You don't have to do anything really to mount (90% of the time)
[06:15] <hipitihop> ed_debian: I'm with you
[06:15] <ed_debian> oDuda, You can download packages from the internet in windows, throw them on a usb key and then open them in linux (you would be looking for a .deb file)
[06:15] <Hogarth> mah, sorry that I´m not that patient, but do you know of a solution to this? Itś pretty annoying.
[06:16] <ed_debian> hipitihop, So once you have your ubuntu install (from the usb drive) dd'd to some folder on your nas you can simply plug in a new key and dd it back
[06:16] <ed_debian> hipitihop, That is my understanding anyway
[06:16] <oDuda> ed_debian yes ! i forgot usb key... but i really need wvdial* packages ?
[06:16] <hipitihop> ed_debian: so maybe I should confirm, given some random flash drive, if I was to mount that on my system and then dd back to it, it will replace partion information and everything on that drive and make it bootable ?
[06:16] <mah> no, i dont.  I would just mess with the keyboard layout settings and see if you can manually set what ~ does
[06:16] <thehoodinternet> is there a way to safely share files with samba.... when i nessus myself it comes up with a big problem not having a login/password... i just want to share some stuff and have the permissions be read only with no probability of anyone deleting anything
[06:17] <gartral> I have a proccess that's been zombied for days, how do i kill it without know what it is?
[06:17] <Hogarth> I will try that.
[06:17] <ed_debian> hipitihop, dd will not repartition for you (sorry I didn't realize the problem until just now)
[06:17] <jmberiault> Hi, I have installed pidentd and I still can't connect to the undernet servers(whether it'd be pidgin or the java client), I am Running 9.04, my router is a WRT54GL (with IDENT filter)with DD-WRT(I previously had Tomato) any1 can guide me on this I would appreciate it tremendously
[06:17] <ed_debian> oDuda, Can you current ubuntu install read ntfs?
[06:17] <victorine> quit
[06:18] <hipitihop> ed_debian: so dd isn't a bit for bit copy as such
[06:18] <genii> gartral: Find it's pid with: ps ax|grep it's-name-here     (pid is left number). Then: sudo kill pid-number            If it still can't die then use -9 with it
[06:18] <oDuda> ed_debian my ubuntu installation reads rwindows partition...
[06:18] <casperfoo> maybe, maybe
[06:18] <ed_debian> hipitihop, I think it is.  I am not sure about those details.  dd will not repartition for you though.  That I am sure of.
[06:19] <gartral> genii: i have no idea what is zombied, im going off what top says
[06:19] <ed_debian> oDuda, Then just download the packages you need (wxdial or whatever) and then open them in linux.
[06:19] <ed_debian> Remember to find .deb packages!
[06:19] <ed_debian> they're the easiest
[06:19] <gartral> and i know how to use ps in all its carnations
[06:19] <hipitihop> ed_debian: thanks for your clarifications and help. I'll read up a little more.... perhaps I'll need to first check how the original flash is partioned, I suspect just ext3 across the whole drive and if so, just have to make sure I do the same on the new drive
[06:19] <ed_debian> oDuda, It is really hard to work with a linux distro that doesn't have a connection
[06:19] <oDuda> ed_debian ok but where to download from ?
[06:19] <geirha> hipitihop, ed_debian: Yes, if you make an image from /dev/sdb (or whatever the device is), it will also copy the partition table
[06:20] <oDuda> ed_debian very hard
[06:20] <ed_debian> oDuda, Just google it man
[06:20] <ed_debian> There you go hipitihop geirha Has the answer!
[06:20] <oDuda> ed_debian ok ill try it ! man, thanks a lot !
[06:20] <hipitihop> geirha: oh cool... so the question is, does it have to be unmounted first ?
[06:20] <ed_debian> oDuda, No problem (you're not out of the woods yet)
[06:20] <oDuda> :-)
[06:21] <geirha> hipitihop: I don't think so, but I'd recommend it. If something is written to it while you make the image, the image may become corrupt
[06:21] <hipitihop> ed_debian: geirha, I'm asking because I notice in gparted I can see the usb drive and partion and it give me mount unmount options, but even when I unmount, I can see the device
[06:21] <Er1K> Jordan_U: Although messy/hackish, I found a nice solution to my glx library issue....and before you ask, I'm cat'ing the file due to odd issues with bindfiles stuff in ltsp, but the relevant meat is in http://www.pastebin.ca/1440654
[06:21] <thom_> hello all, I need some favors please. How to unplug USB-Wireless Adapter from my machine? I have done disable 'enable wireless'. And if I unplugged it, my machine will hang.
[06:21] <ed_debian> hipitihop, When you unmount you cannot go to computer / flash drive
[06:22] <genii> gartral: Sorry for lag, someone at door. The command: ps -el | grep 'Z'            should tell you which it is
[06:22] <poboy975> hello, can i ask a question about geany here? I'm having a execute error
[06:22] <ed_debian> hipitihop, The computer can see the device and even read it's partition info but it cannot read/write in that devices filesystem unless it is mounted
[06:22] <gartral> genii: never thought of combining those two, thanks
[06:22] <hipitihop> geirha: and ed_debian are we talking cross purposes here ?
[06:22] <genii> gartral: np
[06:22] <ed_debian> poboy975, You never need to ask to ask!  Just ask?  Are you writing python code with geany?
[06:23] <ed_debian> cross purposes?
[06:23] <hipitihop> geirha: and ed_debian iow, do I don't I need to mount it to do the dd to nas and back
[06:23] <poboy975> I'm trying to learn c++ and running the simple hello world compiles with no errors....but when I try to execute I get a script error code 127
[06:23] <geirha> hipitihop: If gparted doesn't show lock/key icons for any of the partitions on the drive, then all partitions are unmounted and it should be safe to make the image
[06:24] <ed_debian> poboy975, What is the first line of your script?
[06:24] <hipitihop> geirha: and ed_debian
[06:24] <poboy975> which script
[06:24] <hipitihop> geirha: and ed_debian, sorry, meant to say thank you for your help
[06:24] <jimlovell777> How can I get a list of how many files are in a directory? A graphical representation is a plus. I've tried the disk usage analyzer from the applications menu but is goes by size, not file count.
[06:25] <gartral> genii: a sh file hung 4 days ago...
[06:25] <ed_debian> hipitihop, I don't know if you need to be mounted or not but like geirha said first try unmounted and see if it errors out
[06:25] <anom01y> what is the module assistant ?
[06:25] <jimlovell777> Opps, nevermind.
[06:25] <win_> y
[06:25] <ed_debian> the C+ program what is the first line?
[06:25] <anom01y> I am trying to get a logitech messenger webcam to work
[06:25] <anom01y> !webcam
[06:25] <genii> gartral: Nasty
[06:26] <poboy975> #include <iostream>
[06:26] <Hogarth> still doing  it. I went into system>preferences>layouts and then chose my keyboard type, but I can´t find a way to customize my keys.
[06:26] <genii> gartral: This sometimes happens to me with dead ssh sessions
[06:26] <anom01y> anyone here have a logitech messenger webcam ?
[06:26] <Hogarth> is there a way to do it, mah?
[06:26] <gartral> genii: nah... it did exactly what it was supposed to do, but i closed the program that was too terminate it
[06:26] <hoohaah> anom01y: yes. but I soon realised I'm too pretty to advertise to the world
[06:26] <hoohaah> anom01y: to further aid world peace, I've decided to cease using it
[06:27] <hoohaah> anom01y: (and I did get it working, btw)
[06:27] <poboy975> I get a geanry run script sh error 5 untitled nout found
[06:27] <gartral> genii: thank you for your hep!"
[06:27] <genii> gartral: You're welcome
[06:28] <phobiac> I've got a question about making a keyboard map. I have a computer with a very non-standard keyboard, and some of the keys just don't work right. I'd be interested in spending the time to manually create a keyboard map for it. What I mean to say is, if you go to the keyboard preferences you can select a keyboard map specific to your model of computer. I'd like to make one, I just don't know what to do.
[06:28] <phobiac> If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.
[06:29] <jmberiault> Hi, I have installed pidentd and I still can't connect to some irc servers(whether it'd be pidgin or the java client), I am Running 9.04, my router is a WRT54GL (with IDENT filter)with DD-WRT(I previously had Tomato) any1 can guide me on this I would appreciate it tremendously
[06:31] <geirha> Hogarth: Is it a US keyboard?
[06:31] <agnogenic> Should I use Gnome or KDE or a dead pygmy cannibal?
[06:35] <schaman_> Hi, my ubuntu 9.04 desktop is not accepting any incoming connections, even 'ping localhost' says nothing, 100% packet loss. Outbound connections work fine, I am using irc now from that pc. When I installed a server version, it worked. What do I check to enable incoming connections?
[06:36] <poboy975> hello so any luck, on my geany error?
[06:38] <mib_ycst0umi> yo
[06:38] <bishop> had some luck.ubuntu9 is now connected wireless.played with firewall and other setting
[06:38] <mib_ycst0umi> k
[06:39] <mib_ycst0umi> dont mind me, just looking for 7chan irc
[06:40] <greato> hellO!
[06:40] <greato> does ubuntu only works on 64-bit computer
[06:40] <anom01y> hoofman, how did you get it to work ?
[06:40] <poboy975> nope, it works great on my 32 bit laptop
[06:40] <whatvn> greato: I run 32 bit
[06:41] <barbarella> schaman_:do you have some firewall installed?
[06:41] <greato> ok
[06:41] <anom01y> hoofman, sorry
[06:41] <geirha> phobiac: Found this on google, looks promising http://hektor.umcs.lublin.pl/~mikosmul/computing/articles/custom-keyboard-layouts-xkb.html
[06:42] <phobiac> geirha: Thanks, I really couldn't find much on google. I'm looking at keytouch right now, but the editor doesn't seem to recognize the keyboard at all.
[06:43] <anom01y> anyone here use logitech messenger webcam ?
[06:43] <phobiac> geirha: This looks like exactly what I wanted though, awesome.
[06:43] <anom01y> need help getting it to work, camorama gives me an error
[06:43] <sevele> what error
[06:44] <sevele> is anyone here?
[06:44] <phobiac> Actually I'm realizing keytouch isn't what I needed, but will help with the multimedia keys. So this solved two problems.
[06:44] <jmberiault> Hi, I have installed pidentd and I still can't connect to some irc servers(whether it'd be pidgin or the java client), I am Running 9.04, my router is a WRT54GL with DD-WRT(with IDENT filter, I previously had Tomato) any1 can guide me on this I would appreciate it tremendously
[06:44] <poboy975> there was a little bit ago, dont know about now
[06:44] <phobiac> anom01y: Yeah, what error? That should help narrow it down.
[06:45] <anom01y> phobiac, one sec
[06:45] <anom01y> phobiac, unable to capture image
[06:46] <Hogarth> so any luck on that problem? Is there a way to manually set keys for the keyboard?
[06:46] <phobiac> anom01y: Is that the full error? Any numbers or anything?
[06:46] <schaman_> barbarella: i've got iptables, but when i do 'iptables -L' nothing changes
[06:46] <phobiac> Hogarth: geirha linked me to this which looks promising http://hektor.umcs.lublin.pl/~mikosmul/computing/articles/custom-keyboard-layouts-xkb.html
[06:46] <phobiac> Hogarth: If you have a similar problem
[06:46] <anom01y> dylan_, is that the full error ?
[06:46] <greato> hello! how to install ubuntu and Windows on same computer
[06:46] <Hogarth> sweet, thanks phobiac.
[06:46] <dylan_> yes
[06:47] <poboy975> dual boot
[06:47] <phobiac> Hogarth: Thank geirha :P
[06:47] <greato> how to configure dual boot
[06:47] <anom01y> phobiac, thats the full error
[06:47] <poboy975> whic is currently loaded?
[06:47] <greato> Windows XP
[06:47] <schaman_> barbarella: i mean i do 'iptables -X' and clean all rules
[06:47] <sagaci> !wubi | greato
[06:47] <jmberiault> this is amazing you guys answer dumbass questions while i'm left in the dark?
[06:47] <phobiac> anom01y: Well, sounds like it can't capture images then. What's the model number of the webcam?
[06:47] <sevele> hello everyone
[06:48] <anom01y> phobiac, logitech messenger
[06:48] <eseven73> !attitude | jmberiault
[06:48] <poboy975> ok, you need a program like partition magic or some other non destructive partition manager... then you can load ubuntu in the empty partition
[06:48] <jmberiault> attitude my arse
[06:48] <eseven73> be nice
[06:48] <phobiac> anom01y: I need more than that, there must be a model number on it somewhere.
[06:48] <phobiac> anom01y: It's a usb webcam?
[06:48] <anom01y> yes
[06:48] <Xodiac13> i need help on getting sound in zsnes
[06:49] <phobiac> anom01y: If you do lsusb does it show up?
[06:49] <anom01y> phobiac, dylan_ is who I am trying to help
[06:49] <Xodiac13> i have looked on the forums and tried doing that but i need step by step help i am new to linux
[06:49] <anom01y> dylan_, type lsusb
[06:49] <phobiac> anom01y: Oh okay
[06:49] <anom01y> we'll get it
[06:50] <phobiac> dylan_: Do an lsusb and see if there's a line about the webcam.
[06:50] <phobiac> If so, can I see it?
[06:50] <barbarella> schaman_:iptables -F and iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT and iptables -OUTPUT ACCEPT
[06:50] <dylan_> phobiac, it sows up. "logitech quickcam messenger"
[06:51] <Xodiac13> help please
[06:51] <jakuphl> Xodiac13 what is the problem
[06:51] <phobiac> dylan_: Okay. Actually, this might help you. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111225
[06:51] <Xodiac13> i am trying to get sound in zsnes
[06:52] <gartral> hmm... a LOT of the media players in 9.04 refuse to take commands from the media buttons on my keyboard
[06:52] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: have you checked this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7488.html
[06:53] <eseven73> !info keytouch | gartral
[06:53] <Xodiac13> ive looked on the forums and i am new to linux
[06:53] <phobiac> dylan_: The thread appears to be sort of old, but it might help regardless.
[06:53] <schaman_> barbarella: done! nothing changed. here is iptables-save output: *filter / :INPUT ACCEPT [2:248] / :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] / :OUTPUT ACCEPT [1:52] / COMMIT
[06:53] <dylan_> phobiac, no luck with that thread
[06:53] <gartral> eseven73: most media programs work, and my keys are recognised, but mplayer refuses to pause!
[06:53] <anom01y> dylan_, just install the xawtv
[06:54] <anom01y> sudo apt-get install xawtv
[06:54] <eseven73> gartral, ok.
[06:54] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: okay, first make sure that you have no media player running
[06:54] <gartral> eseven73: will keytouch still help me?
[06:54] <eseven73> gartral, try VLC maybe
[06:54] <gartral> VLC doesn't either
[06:54] <luis_> hola
[06:54] <gartral> neither does dragon
[06:54] <eseven73> gartral, well try keytouch then
[06:54] <luis_> hello
[06:54] <Xodiac13> okay
[06:54] <genii> !es | luis_
[06:55] <luis_> ok
[06:55] <Xodiac13> well i got sound but how do i start it up with the command
[06:55] <Xodiac13> zsnes -ad sdl i have to put this in
[06:55] <Xodiac13> so how do i make it load with that
[06:55] <anom01y> dylan_, after installing xawtv, run xawtv -c /dev/video0
[06:55] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: then press alt+f2
[06:55] <dylan_> phobiac, xawtv works!
[06:55] <anom01y> nice
[06:55] <phobiac> dylan_: Yay!
[06:55] <Xodiac13> when i run the emulator
[06:56] <dylan_> tyvm
[06:56] <anom01y> cool
[06:56] <Name141> I tried making a bootable USB Flash drive, however when I try to boot from it simply says "boot error."  What could I possibly do to fix this?  It appears that other people with my dell Inspiron 530 have the same issue.
[06:56] <jakuphl> Xodiac: and run killall esd; zsnes; esd -nobeeps &
[06:56] <phobiac> dylan_: Thank google and the person who started the thread :P
[06:56] <Xodiac13> uhm okay
[06:56] <phobiac> Name141: Is there possibly something that can be changed in the BIOS?
[06:56] <Name141> phobiac: Such as?
[06:57] <Name141> phobiac: I even upgraded to the latest BIOS
[06:57] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: wait... you have sound now
[06:57] <jakuphl> ?
[06:57] <phobiac> Name141: I know my netbook has an option to not allow booting from removable media except by administrators
[06:57] <Xodiac13> nice thank you and i have one more question
[06:57] <Xodiac13> crap when it runs its a little crackly
[06:57] <gartral> eseven73: mine isn't in here, it's a generic 105 key media board..
[06:57] <jakuphl> Xodiac13 yeees???
[06:57] <phobiac> Name141: Does the flash drive load at all?
[06:57] <Xodiac13> how do i fix that
[06:57] <Name141> phobiac: I doubt asking dell about it would do any good since it was shipped with a Windows OS?
[06:58] <Xodiac13> i did what you told me and its crackly how do i fix that
[06:58] <Name141> phobiac: load at all?  I can write/delete/etc files from it
[06:58] <phobiac> Name141: No no. What I mean is, when you boot from it, what /exactly/ happens?
[06:58] <eseven73> gartral, whats the make/model of your keyboard specifically and what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[06:58] <Name141> phobiac: "boot error"
[06:58] <froes> hey .. i am having some problems with USB 3G dongles and NetworkManager. :(
[06:58] <phobiac> Name141: Does the livecd menu start to load, and crash? Load at all?
[06:58] <SeViLLa> Xodiac13: "trust your techno lust"
[06:58] <anom01y> phobiac, how come xawtv works but camorama doesn't ?
[06:58] <phobiac> Name141: That's the only thing that happens? :/
[06:58] <Name141> phobiac: nothing
[06:58] <Name141> phobiac: correct
[06:58] <phobiac> anom01y: Not a clue
[06:58] <Xodiac13> ?
[06:59] <anom01y> on mine both work, on dylan_'s only xawtv works
[06:59] <Xodiac13> yea if there is somehow i can get it not crackly
[06:59] <phobiac> anom01y: Differences in camera chipsets, possibly.
[06:59] <froes> with a huawei e169 i am able to connect onde, but with a e220 i am not. not even once
[06:59] <Name141> phobiac: I even tried making it off of the live CD running
[06:59] <Name141> phobiac: still "boot error" when I restarted to it
[06:59] <anom01y> kopete's settings don't work for the camera either
[06:59] <RKR> Hi , Everyone I am in need of a 3gp video convertor for ubuntu 9.04 pls      anybody  help me
[06:59] <phobiac> Name141: Does it load a live CD fine?
[07:00] <phobiac> Or is that what you meant, it doesn't?
[07:00] <gartral> eseven73: 9.04, and the keyboard was a $20 *no-name* from inkstop, the instructions and warenty were printed mirred and said something about vuescape... the keyboard is HIGHLY generic, and the media keys work, but programs dont pick them up
[07:00] <anom01y> kopete->settings->video should show /dev/video0, but it doesnt
[07:00] <Name141> phobiac: from DVD
[07:00] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: is it crackly when you do this in terminal?     zsnes -ad sdl
[07:00] <phobiac> anom01y: Webcams seem to be very shakey in ubuntu.
[07:00] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: ofcourse turn zsnes off before doing it
[07:01] <phobiac> Name141: But not from CD?
[07:01] <Xodiac13> yeah i did
[07:01] <Xodiac13> i am testing it right now
[07:01] <Name141> phobiac: Oh, I guess?  Whatever they shipped (CDs?)
[07:01] <RKR> Hi , Everyone I am in need of a 3gp video convertor for ubuntu 9.04 pls      anybody  help me
[07:01] <eseven73> gartral, thats going to be tough to diagnose with a no-name generic keyboard, best you could probably do is search the forums
[07:01] <froes> another thing is that i dont seem to be able to install any software it always says its not i386 capable
[07:01] <Xodiac13> its still crackly
[07:01] <phobiac> Name141: Uhhh, I'm not sure what is shipped. Probably CDs. It sounds like a BIOS issue.
[07:01] <Xodiac13> the sound
[07:01] <Name141> phobiac: So there is nothing I can really do?
[07:02] <phobiac> Name141: You may have just downloaded a corrupt file for making the live flash drive.
[07:02] <gartral> eseven73: im sure its the programs because my sansa e250 (Rockboxed) has the same generic hid properties, and all the programs react exactly the same
[07:02] <geirha> anom01y: camorama only supports v4l devices, while xawt probably supports both v4l and v4l2
[07:02] <Xodiac13> the sound
[07:02] <mib_bw2req> 你们好
[07:02] <Name141> phobiac: It was shipped
[07:02] <Xodiac13> its still crackly
[07:02] <Xodiac13> when i do that
[07:02] <eseven73> !cn | mib_bw2req
[07:02] <phobiac> Name141: Oh. Well then, there's probably not really anything you can do. Is this an old computer?
[07:02] <anom01y> ahh
[07:03] <Name141> phobiac: no
[07:03] <greato> i am back
[07:03] <phobiac> Name141: It's an insiprion 530 you said?
[07:03] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: what version of zsnes do you have?
[07:03] <Xodiac13> how do i check
[07:03] <phobiac> Minus an i
[07:03] <Name141> phobiac: My old computer works perfect with Xubuntu (slow but.. works)
[07:03] <Name141> phobiac: Yes
[07:03] <gartral> Xodiac13: zsnes -v
[07:03] <phobiac> Name141: Hmm, give me a second to check into it.
[07:04] <anom01y> geirha, does kopete support v4l2 ?
[07:04] <Xodiac13> it says invalid video mode
[07:04] <gartral> Xodiac13: -V (cap v) maybe?
[07:04] <Name141> phobiac: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-732398.html
[07:05] <Xodiac13> it says the same
[07:05] <Name141> phobiac: I don't see any help there though
[07:05] <RKR> Hi , Everyone I am in need of a 3gp video convertor for ubuntu 9.04 pls      anybody  help me
[07:05] <gartral> eseven73: what log keeps media key strokes?
[07:05] <RKR> Hi , Everyone I am in need of a 3gp video convertor for ubuntu 9.04 pls      anybody  help me
[07:05] <RKR> Hi , Everyone I am in need of a 3gp video convertor for ubuntu 9.04 pls      anybody  help me
[07:05] <genii> !repeat | RKR
[07:05] <eseven73> gartral, not sure sorry
[07:06] <Xodiac13> gartal it gives me the same
[07:06] <jakuphl> man zsnes will show it
[07:06] <Xodiac13> ok
[07:06] <phobiac> Name141: I can't really find anything either. :/
[07:06] <gartral> eseven73: ill ask tomarro
[07:06] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: you probably have 1.51
[07:07] <Xodiac13> yes its that one
[07:07] <Jck_true_> I've run into a little problem
[07:07] <Name141> phobiac: Would the dell DVD be a waste of time ?
[07:07] <phobiac> Name141: The only thing I can suggest is to look through the BIOS for anything regarding "removable media" or anything that says "USB" and see if a setting is wrong.
[07:07] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: okay, in terminal do: gedit ~/.zsnes/zsnesl.cfg
[07:07] <Jck_true_> I've installed ffmpeg from apt but somehow i can't encode in all the regular formats
[07:07] <Xodiac13> okay
[07:07] <schaman_> Hi, my ubuntu 9.04 desktop is not accepting any incoming connections, even 'ping localhost' says nothing, 100% packet loss. Outbound connections work fine, I am using irc now from that pc. No firewall is installed. What do I check to enable incoming connections?
[07:07] <Jck_true_> Only mpeg1 seems to work
[07:07] <eseven73> gartral, ok good luck :)
[07:07] <Name141> phobiac: I booted from a USB hard drive before.
[07:07] <phobiac> Name141: I'm not sure, what were you going to do with it?
[07:07] <Jck_true_> are they are ffmpeg-all package i need to install?
[07:07] <geirha> anom01y: Don't know. A quick google suggests it is in the making, but possibly not stable yet.
[07:08] <Name141> phobiac: Try it instead
[07:08] <kz> hey guys, just installed ubuntu
[07:08] <phobiac> Name141: Oh. Maybe the flash drive is bad then? Try booting from it on another computer. Although you said you can read and write to it, so I'm guessing that's not it.
[07:08] <Xodiac13>  okay i did
[07:08] <kz> how would i get dual screens working?
[07:08] <phobiac> Name141: Sure, if it boots from a Live CD or DVD instead, that should be fine.
[07:08] <Name141> phobiac: Yeah.. seeing as  there are other problems
[07:09] <Name141> phobiac: I think I might as well give up linux
[07:09] <Name141> (on this machine)
[07:09] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: On line 178, change "auto" to "sdl"
[07:09] <phobiac> Name141: I really think this might be a BIOS issue though, which is unfortunate and weird considering it's a newish computer.
[07:09] <Xodiac13> uh it didnt load
[07:09] <jmberiault> made it work all by myself, like a big boy
[07:09] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: what?
[07:09] <Name141> phobiac: My sound was low in Hardy, then Intrepid my NIC didn't work worth anything.. Same with Jaunty
[07:10] <Name141> phobiac: I think the machine just wasn't meant for it.
[07:10] <phobiac> Name141: Booting from flash drives is a very very recent thing in terms of computer years, so I'm not horribly surprised about your issues.
[07:10] <phobiac> Name141: Oh man I know how you feel.
[07:10] <phobiac> Name141: My netbook is just barely supported by ubuntu at all. The hardware is so new, a lot of stuff doesn't work right or at all.
[07:11] <phobiac> Or rather, the hardware is new and so closed source.
[07:11] <kz> how do i get dual screens working?
[07:11] <Name141> phobiac: Yes, it seems the NIC uses the e1000e 'module' ?  It was the same module as was in hardy that worked perfect.  So where did it go wrong?
[07:11] <Name141> phobiac: from hardy -> intrepid
[07:11] <Xodiac13> it doenst load up
[07:12] <phobiac> Name141: Kernel updates break things sometimes. The only thing I can suggest is using an older kernel if it worked fine for you.
[07:12] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: what does not load up? the text file or zsnes
[07:12] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: nothing
[07:12] <Hew> Hi guys. During startup, there are messages about processes starting up that get [  OK  ] or [ FAIL ] etc. Is there a log of this somewhere?
[07:12] <Name141> phobiac: I always heard that was "unsecure"
[07:12] <kz> can anyone help  me getting dual screens working with ubuntu?
[07:13] <Fezzler> is there a way to have my Freenode password emailed to me?
[07:13] <phobiac> Name141: As far as I know kernel updates are mostly just drivers. The security updates are seperate, I thought.
[07:13] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: did you do this right
[07:13] <Name141> phobiac: *shrugs*
[07:13] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: ~/.zsnes/zsnesl.cfg
[07:13] <Name141> phobiac: I tried Fedora10 too.  It did all the same funky stuff
[07:13] <phobiac> kz: Check system>preferences>display
[07:13] <kz> yea tried phobiac
[07:14] <bishop> joining
[07:14] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: gedit ~/.zsnes/zsnesl.cfg
[07:14] <kz> only one monitor comes up
[07:14] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: that is
[07:14] <phobiac> Name141: Distros share drivers for the most part. If it's open source and works, it's shared.
[07:14] <Xodiac13> how do i copy and past it
[07:14] <Name141> phobiac: "works"
[07:15] <phobiac> kz: I can't help you much, but try search for "ubuntu yourcomputermodel external monitor"
[07:15] <kz> what do you mean by yourcomputermodel? i built it myself
[07:15] <phobiac> kz: Or "dual displays" or anything that would fit. Google is a great tech support tool.
[07:15] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: how do i copy and paste it
[07:15] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: in terminal click "edit" ----> "paste"
[07:15] <kz> tried it, phobiac
[07:15] <kz> hence why im here lol
[07:15] <phobiac> kz: Oh okay. Try yourvideocard?
[07:15] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: how do i copy from the chat room
[07:16] <kz> ah will do
[07:16] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: omg. mark it and press ctrl + c
[07:16] <phobiac> Anyway I'm off. Good luck with your problems everyone.
[07:16] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: sorry
[07:16] <kz> but before i do that, something else. when i started ubuntu it came up asking me to install the drivers for my video card, and gave me some that it recommended. closed it though, now its done?
[07:16] <siebel> !bots
[07:16] <kz> bye phobiac
[07:16] <kz> now its gone*
[07:17] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: it says bash: gedit: command not found
[07:17] <Xodiac13> su
[07:17] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: are you using ubuntu?
[07:17] <phobiac> kz: Okay wait, I can help with that.
[07:17] <kz> ah sweet
[07:17] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: i am using antix it still uses the same commands
[07:18] <phobiac> system>administration>hardware drivers
[07:18] <phobiac> kz
[07:18] <kz> cheers
[07:18] <voland> hello. is there somebody who uses gwibber client?
[07:18] <phobiac> Keep in mind those are usually closed source drivers, if that matters to you.
[07:18] <jakuphl> okay then replace gedit with nano
[07:18] <Xodiac13> k
[07:18] <kz> not really, just coming from vista so im used to it
[07:18] <kz> :P
[07:18] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: okay then replace gedit with nano
[07:19] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: okay something loaded and it doesnt have nothing in the file
[07:19] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: is it empty?
[07:19] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: yes
[07:19] <kz> brb restart, thanks phobiac
[07:20] <jakuphl> okay... exit that and try nano /home/username/.zsnes/zsnesl.cfg
[07:20] <Xodiac13> i did
[07:21] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: ok.. just making sure... then i don't really know
[07:21] <jakuphl> Xodiac13:  it works for me
[07:21] <Xodiac13> okay nm it loaded
[07:21] <libtech> its a great night
[07:21] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: it worked
[07:21] <jakuphl> Xodiac13:  good... On line 178, change "auto" to "sdl"
[07:21] <jakuphl> Xodiac13:  so that it is libAoDriver="sdl"
[07:22] <Xodiac13> okay
[07:22] <LinuxNIT> prior to logging in from gdm i can switch terminal F1 etc without problems but after i log in via gdm when i switch to terminals F1 etc i get a flashing screen with unreadable text flashing at the top of the screen, how can i fix this? (00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07))
[07:22] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: it was already like that
[07:23] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: which Xorg driver are you using?
[07:23] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: its already sdl
[07:23] <kz> phobiac: if youre still here. installing the drivers made dual screens work :)
[07:23] <dinhhoang_ht1_87> heloo
[07:23] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: okay... then I am really not sure, but then try to replace sdl with auto
[07:23] <phobiac> kz: Yay!
[07:23] <jakuphl> y
[07:23] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: how do i save it
[07:23] <phobiac> I'm here, just wanted to slink away from helping for a bit so I could do my own things.
[07:24] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, i dont know because xorg.conf nolonger contains that information
[07:24] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: ctrl + x and they y
[07:24] <oDuda> hello... somebody knows about missing ppp gui in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[07:24] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: then
[07:24] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: hrm. are you able to get back to X via f7 or f8?
[07:24] <kz> although now the top and bottom bars have gone to the other screen, which is on the right of me even though the proper monitor is on the left in x server settings
[07:24] <LinuxNIT> f7
[07:24] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, yes by f7
[07:25] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: aaand enter
[07:25] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: ok - check your System->Administration->Hardware drivers
[07:25] <Xodiac13> okokay
[07:26] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: but that probably did not help.. if not, then change it back
[07:26] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, it says no proprietar drivers are in use on this system... other than that its blank
[07:26] <Xodiac13> okay
[07:27] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: odd... have you tried booting without the 'quiet splash' options set?
[07:27] <libtech> so, i have my music Files on my windows partition, i have to import this folder every time i start rhythmbox
[07:27] <LinuxNIT> those are set by default
[07:27] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: how do i do that one thing alt f2 to get the sound
[07:27] <LinuxNIT> i tried removing then and have the same issue
[07:27] <Gnea> ok
[07:27] <fccf> ok there are enough people to allow me to try this - I need to run a test on an ubuntu streaming server running flumotion and cortado - which means I need people to log on to my server and listen to the stream for at least 1min - you will need java runtimes installed - I am hoping I can get 20 or 30 connections going for 1 min -- lets give this a try http://www.fullertonfirstchristian.org:81/index.html - and if it works I thank you very m
[07:28] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, actually i removed the quiet option and changed splash to nosplash
[07:28] <eseven73> !ot | fccf
[07:28] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: yeah i had to change it back
[07:28]  * LinuxNIT just trying to be clear :)
[07:29] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: am i going to have to get another emulator then
[07:29] <Gnea> fccf: sorry, you can't do that here. please try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:29] <rww> Gnea: he did, we lambasted him for using Java
[07:29] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: that's just fine :)
[07:29] <libtech> everytime i start rhythmbox i have to import my music folder, its on a windows partition, any reason why?
[07:29] <Arkhalis> Heya'all
[07:29] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: zsnes -ad sdl but what happens if you boot it normally
[07:29] <fccf> eseven73: the best support I can get is from users - and right now I need to test this system
[07:30] <eseven73> it's still offtopic for this channel
[07:30] <Gnea> !guidelines | fccf
[07:30] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: how do i make it load like that every time
[07:30] <Gnea> fccf: try asking for a good channel to ask in #freenode, they're the best
[07:30] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: what desktop-manager are you using?
[07:30] <TopoMorto> does ubuntu run on foxconn 45csx mainboard ? the acpi related bug has been solved?
[07:30] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: gnome?
[07:30] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: uhm i think its cwm
[07:31] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: its icewm
[07:31] <fccf> sorry if I disagree
[07:31] <omid8bimo> guys, i've updated my empathy to 2.26.2 and i don't have yahoo on my list of accounts to create! how can i add it/
[07:31] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: no
[07:32] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: icewm
[07:32] <gabbah> hey guys. I have problems changing the owner of a folder on my ntfs partition: sudo chown -R gabriel.gabriel /media/bigmama/found.000/ but after the owner is still root when i check! why?
[07:32] <Trentor> Question:  I have a laptop that is QUERTY and a USB keyboard that is DVORAK, but whenever I change the keyboard layout to DVORAK default in the keyboard settings it changes the laptop keyboard to DVORAK but not the usb keyboard.  The usb keyboard is not native dvorak, keys were changed manually from querty.  How can I get my laptop keyboard to be querty and external to be dvorak?
[07:32] <kz> hey guys, the top and bottom bar things of ubuntu are on the wrong screen (using dual screens). how do i swap them around?
[07:32] <Trentor> kz: right click ->remove panel
[07:32] <adrian_> org
[07:32] <Trentor> or add a panel
[07:32] <omid8bimo> gabbah: right command it chwown -R user:grp [file]
[07:32] <Arkhalis> alright so i've been looking around for a solution to this all day... anyone know how to resolve the eeepc 1008ha wifi and ethernet not working? I've been told compat-wireless but how do i do that without either of them working?
[07:32] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: i'm not sure, but it should be easy to do
[07:33] <kz> Trentor: removed the panels. how do i get them back on the scren i want them on?
[07:33] <rww> gabbah: NTFS partitions don't use chmod or chown, because they don't support UNIX-style permissions. You'd need to specify the owner and group when mounting it.
[07:33] <omid8bimo> gabbah: chown actually :)
[07:33] <rww> !ntfs | gabbah: this page has details.
[07:33] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, out of ideas?
[07:33] <Trentor> right click desktop and add panel
[07:33] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: i have another question when my os boots up it says that there are .conf that are missing and that occured when i updated it and used a different choice will it effect my os
[07:33] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: still looking..
[07:33] <gabbah> rww: thanks... yeah i've been trying to fix fstab too
[07:34] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, ok thanks :)
[07:34] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: is this jaunty?
[07:34] <LinuxNIT> yes upgraded...
[07:34] <LinuxNIT> i had the same issue before i upgraded though
[07:34] <Gnea> k
[07:35] <kz> cheers Trentor. is there a way to get the default top panel back?
[07:35] <LinuxNIT> amd64 too
[07:35] <becomingGuru> I am so dumb that I am not able to figure what is the simple ftp command to transfer to a remote server I am getting connection refused without even prompting me for password
[07:35] <eseven73> !panels | kz
[07:35] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: i'm not sure, I have never used antix... so I'm pretty much guessing stuff right now.
[07:35] <becomingGuru> what is the command to use
[07:35] <kz> !panels
[07:35] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, i think it did it on 32bit but its been a long time since i booted the 32bit partition.
[07:35] <kz> ok
[07:35] <Xodiac13> jakuhpl: lol
[07:35] <kz> how do i open terminal without the top panel? lol
[07:35] <zenxr> I just scanned my lappy with rootkit hunter, and I received a warning on /usr/sbin/unhide; is that truly dangerous?
[07:35] <eseven73> kz alt+f2 then gnome-terminal
[07:36] <eseven73> then type that long command ubottu gave you
[07:36] <kz> sick thanks
[07:36] <Arkhalis> Anyone able to help me with an eeepc wifi and ethernet issue? can't find a solution anywhere ><
[07:36] <eseven73> :D
[07:36] <Trentor> kz: Alt-F2, type 'gnome panel'
[07:36] <Guest31932> hallo
[07:36] <libtech> Arkhalis: which eee are you usng?
[07:36] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: i'm going to sleep. goodnight.
[07:36] <kz> ok sweet as
[07:36] <Arkhalis> 1008HA
[07:36] <eseven73> !de | Guest31932
[07:36] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: goodnight thank you for helping me
[07:36] <Trentor> kz: this link might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=392387
[07:37] <zenxr> \giuseppe is now known as Guest31932
[07:37] <kz> i still cant get it to become on the other screen, though
[07:37] <zenxr> why make it into that of all names lmao?
[07:37] <libtech> Arkhalis: cant connect to wireless or what?
[07:37] <Trentor> kz: how are your dual screens being run
[07:37] <Arkhalis> no wireless OR ethernet
[07:37] <kz> umm
[07:37] <Trentor> kz: brb,mess with it alittle,brb
[07:37] <kz> twinview
[07:37] <zenxr> Arkhalis: does ifconfig recognize any networks?
[07:38] <Arkhalis> been told compat-wireless solves the wifi issue but i can't connect ethernet to apt-get
[07:38] <libtech> Arkhalis: im running ubuntu netbook remix on a 1000he, no issues really
[07:38] <froes> anyone having problems with USB modem E220 under ubuntu 9.04? it does not recognize it, but it shows on lsusb !! please help !!
[07:38] <Arkhalis> yeah, my 901 runs it fine but this one doesn't
[07:38] <omid8bimo> i've updated my empathy to 2.26.2 and i don't have yahoo on my list of accounts to create! how can i add it/
[07:38] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[07:38] <Arkhalis> nothing on ifconfig
[07:38] <zenxr> libtech: A compony with your nickname used to make some funky skateboards :D
[07:39] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, one moment
[07:39] <zenxr> Arkhalis: whoah, do you have a pcmcia slot anywhere? I'd put a wireless card in that and get your system up with it
[07:39] <libtech> zenxr: they still make snowboards lol
[07:39] <Arkhalis> no pcmcia... it's an eeepc =p
[07:40] <Arkhalis> I'll have to go buy a wireless usb key i am thinking
[07:40] <Trentor> Question:  I have a laptop that is QUERTY and a USB keyboard that is DVORAK, but whenever I change the keyboard layout to DVORAK default in the keyboard settings it changes the laptop keyboard to DVORAK but not the usb keyboard.  The usb keyboard is not native dvorak, keys were changed manually from querty.  How can I get my laptop keyboard to be querty and external to be dvorak?
[07:40] <rww> omid8bimo: 2.26.2 isn't in Ubuntu's repositories yet. Did you get it from somewhere else? If so, they're the people to ask =/
[07:40] <Gnea> Arkhalis: might also want to try #ubuntu-eeepc
[07:40] <zenxr> libtech: Yeah, they mostly made those anyways. They made an alloy skateboard deck;p...whoops, going OT, gonna get spammed.
[07:40] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, http://pastebin.ca/1440706
[07:40] <Arkhalis> aha
[07:40] <libtech> lol
[07:40] <Arkhalis> Thanks Gnea~
[07:41] <omid8bimo> rww: okay but generally is there any strage way to add account support?
[07:41] <kenyon> Trentor: I don't think you can have separate configs for the 2 keyboards
[07:41] <Trentor> kenyon: then how can I get my usb keyboard to dvorak,because i cannot get it to change
[07:41] <rww> omid8bimo: I imagine you need to get telepathy-haze from wherever you got empathy.
[07:42] <Trentor> Whenever I change it to dvorak it only effects my laptop keyboard
[07:42] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: oooh, you're using the i915 driver :)
[07:42] <Trentor> kw: how is the editing hoinh
[07:42] <Trentor> going*
[07:42]  * Gnea duhs
[07:42] <Gnea> !intel
[07:42] <rww> omid8bimo: telepathy-haze being the telepathy->libpurple manager which, if I remember correctly, is how empathy gets Yahoo support.
[07:43] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, thats the one it picked by default.
[07:43] <omid8bimo> rww: oh got it, thanks dude
[07:43] <kenyon> Trentor: don't know, I haven't tried a setup like that, but I used dvorak too.
[07:43] <kenyon> Trentor: err use.
[07:43] <kz> Trentor: i held alt and dragged them across to the other screen
[07:44] <kz> although now on the bottom one theres a big gap between the desktop switching and the far side of the screen
[07:44] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: well, I'm guessing that it's using all of the correct resolutions and that glx and whatnot are able to power compiz just fine?
[07:44] <bullgard4> Does Empathy produce sounds on Empathy status events (for example the reception of a message), or not?
[07:44] <losher> zenxr: re: unhide, rootkit hunter apparently has a mailing list. I would ask on there...
[07:45] <froes> anyone having problems with USB modem E220 under ubuntu 9.04? it does not recognize it, but it shows on lsusb !! please help !!
[07:45] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, yes im getting max resolution and compiz seems to run just fine
[07:45] <zenxr> losher: I'm not really that worried about it, so I figured if nobody knew here I'd just say forget it. thank you for the answer though.
[07:45] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, do i need to change drivers?
[07:46] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: it couldn't hurt to try
[07:46] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: that second url seems to have some pretty decent info
[07:50] <Arkhalis> still no luck ><
[07:52] <Arkhalis> any ideas anyone? or am i basically screwed untill i can get some sort of usb internet? lol
[07:52] <zhoujingrui> hi i need a help
[07:52] <zhoujingrui> my ubunut 8.10no sound
[07:53] <bullgard4> !sound | zhoujingrui
[07:53] <hipitihop> can someone tell me the location where apt stores downloaded packages
[07:54] <fccf> hipitihop: /var/cache/apt/....
[07:54] <oDuda> please someone help about package ?
[07:54] <bullgard4> hipitihop: Try /usr/cache/apt/archives/
[07:55] <bullgard4> oDuda: Please put here in this channel a specific question. Do not ask: "Can someone help me?"
[07:56] <fccf> bullgard4: its /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:56] <oDuda> sorry ! http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/gnome-ppp <-- i need to download all files from this page to correct an error of this release ?
[07:57] <bullgard4> Does Empathy produce sounds on Empathy status events (for example the reception of a message), or not?
[07:57] <edogzilla> hello. does anyone here play entropia universe thru wine? if so...how?
[07:58] <oDuda> ubuntu 9.04 appears to be released withouth ppp files/gui...
[07:59] <lol> hi
[07:59] <lol> hi
[07:59] <bullgard4> oDuda: Can you not download the DEB program package using the program Synaptic?
[07:59] <fccf> lol: hi
[07:59] <bullgard4> oDuda: Can you not download the DEB program package gnome-ppp using the program Synaptic?
[08:00] <edogzilla>  does anyone here play entropia universe thru wine? if so...how?
[08:00] <Slart> !info gnome-ppp
[08:00] <Fezzler> How do I set Ubuntu so it used wired networking as default - not wireless
[08:00] <Guest29904> how to use opedns ?
[08:00] <oDuda> bullgard4 thanks, but im trying to put my dialup working at 9.04 because im without dialup connection in linux... (running rwindows now)
[08:00] <Slart> Fezzler: you might be able to set the default gateway to the wired network.. I think
[08:00] <Guest29904> any one guide me in usinmg opendns
[08:01] <Slart> Guest29904: check the opendns site.. they have instructions I think..
[08:01]  * Guest29904 cries
[08:01] <Guest29904> quir
[08:02] <WIGGMPk> Every time I copy a disc with Brasero, the DVD Drive (in my laptop) stops working.. I copied the disc into an ISO but now the disc drive wont open and the disc is no longer mounted.. Any thoughts?
[08:02] <fccf> WIGGMPk: Paperclip
[08:03] <Neremor> hello!
[08:03] <WIGGMPk> fccf: forces the drive open, but doesnt fix the problem.. inserting another DVD or CD does nothing
[08:03] <Neremor> I'm able to resize all images in a folder with "mogrify -resize 800x600 *.jpg"... Is there something like the "*" to resize all images larger than 1MB?
[08:04] <oDuda> bullgard4 i will give up ppp...
[08:04] <fccf> WIGGMPk: Laptop drives suck, reboot - if that doesn't work - buy a external drive
[08:04] <WIGGMPk> fccf: rebooting fixes the issue just to cause it again later.. buying an external drive is NOT a solution
[08:05] <Pythack> Hello
[08:05] <bullgard4> oDuda: I am not familiar with rwindows. What program is "rwindows"?
[08:05] <fccf> WIGGMPk: like I said - Laptop Drives Suck - and are prohibitivily expensive - thats why I said external
[08:06] <oDuda> bullgard4 hahahahha... im having problems with linux... im using windows to talk with you ....
[08:06] <coz_> WIGGMPk,   this is strange...for some reason the system is dropping the driver for the dvd  or its being stopped by something  at least it sounds that way/// you could check in some of the logs to see what is going on but I am not real good at problem solving dvd players
[08:06] <bullgard4> oDuda: Good luck.
[08:07] <oDuda> bullgard4 sorry... rwindows in portuguese language is BADwindows...
[08:07] <WIGGMPk> fccf: Laptop drives sucks no more than any other drive.. They are built relativly the same way just in a more compact way. As i appreciate you thoughts on it, your not helping solve the problem only creating a work around.. (Drive works without trouble in Windows XP, Vista, 7 RC, Gutsy, Hardy, and Intrepid)
[08:08] <oDuda> bullgard4 can i download gnome-ppp at one time only ?
[08:08] <WIGGMPk> coz_: which log to look at though? im not good with sifting thru logs.. what titles should I look thru?
[08:08] <bullgard4> oDuda: Yes you can.
[08:08] <coz_> WIGGMPk,  good question I am searching now but which specific model of laptop is this?
[08:08] <WIGGMPk> coz_: ASUS, with an LG drive if that helps
[08:09] <oDuda> bullgard4 i cant find (remenber, i dont have connection to internet with linux)
[08:09] <coz_> WIGGMPk,   I will try to search this   no guarantees  :)  hold on
[08:09] <bullgard4> oDuda: What can you not find?
[08:09] <oDuda> bullgard4 the one file install gnome-ppp
[08:10] <WIGGMPk> coz_: np mate, I appreciate the help.. although my contacts are drying up something fierce
[08:10] <Slart> Neremor: you could combine "find" with that mogrify command
[08:10] <oDuda> bullgard4 sorry my English...
[08:10] <bullgard4> oDuda: You will normally find it in an Ubuntu repository.
[08:10] <oDuda> bullgard4 thank you !
[08:12] <coz_> WIGGMPk,   does this only happen when trying to burn with brasero?
[08:12] <oDuda> now i decided... ill remove ubuntu 9.04... it is not ready to use ( at least with dial up connections)...
[08:13] <zhiland> hi
[08:13] <coz_> oDuda,  did you go to #linux  to see if they could troubleshoot that issue for you?
[08:13] <zhiland> i got a problem with firefox can anyone help me out
[08:13] <WIGGMPk> coz_: no, it happens when Im ripping a CD or DVD to an ISO with Brasero or any other application, not usually when burning
[08:13] <oDuda> coz_ not yet but i can talk im tired...
[08:13] <coz_> WIGGMPk,   ok but you have tried other applications for this as well?
[08:13] <WIGGMPk> coz_: yes
[08:14] <coz_> oDuda,  ok dont give up until you try #linux at least a couple of times
[08:14] <coz_> WIGGMPk,  ok hold on
[08:14] <|Petrus|> hi guys...can someone here tell me what the default keymap is for X in Ubuntu?
[08:14] <oDuda> coz_ but the problem is about ubuntu exclusively...
[08:15]  * |Petrus| had a sweet setup with vim in Ubuntu, but when I moved to FreeBSD, it got messed up a bit...mostly cos arrow keys don't work as well under FreeBSD, at least when in terms under X.
[08:15] <coz_> oDuda,  have you tried this on other distributions?
[08:15] <|Petrus|> so I need to know what the Ubuntu X keymap was, so I can use it in FreeBSD
[08:15] <|Petrus|> anyone?
[08:15] <raden> anyone know how dramatically raid 1 will slow down a system ?????
[08:15] <oDuda> coz_ i only used ubuntu even now...
[08:16] <coz_> oDuda,  still try #linux  they dont bite  much
[08:16] <zhiland> im at the firefox help irc chat but noones there
[08:16] <coz_> :)
[08:16] <zhiland> cansome1 here hlep
[08:16] <raden> with 1 harddrive i could get my cpu usage on my E7200 upto 90 % running alot of apps bogging it down etc....
[08:16] <oDuda> coz_ thank you too much guy !
[08:16] <WIGGMPk> coz_: its unusable right now.. if you have some command to run to try and reuse it or some other test lol, I can troubleshoot it now.. When I restart it works again
[08:16] <raden> with raid 1 my system totally sluggish and my proc usage never over 45% and i mean slow firefox taking 20 seconds to open
[08:16] <raden> gnome takes almost 30 seconds to load
[08:17] <oDuda> in time to load 9.04 sucks
[08:17] <coz_> WIGGMPk,   out of curiosity the dvds you are trying to rip when this happens i asume the region code is  for your region??  just a  thought
[08:17] <raden> my dual core 2.8 E7200 w/ 8 gb ram and dual sata II drives is slower than my E5200 2.5 w/ 4 gb any ideas ?
[08:17] <zhiland> chance your raid settings in bios
[08:17] <zhiland> change
[08:18] <oDuda> raden too many machine power - sorry :-)
[08:18] <raden> zhiland, software raid
[08:18] <raden> zhiland, cant get ubuntu running off mobo raid card
[08:18] <WIGGMPk> coz_: yes, they are.. Some are personal DVD backups of just personal data and not encrypted or copyrighted
[08:18] <edogzilla> hello. i'm having a problem with my disk partitions. i dont know much about it can someone help?
[08:18] <Slart> edogzilla: what's the problem?
[08:18] <Tomodachi2> |Petrus:do you mean like insert and other key bindings?
[08:19] <coz_> WIGGMPk, ok it was just a though thinking the dvd player itself may be set to a different region code
[08:19] <raden> ill just have to wipe the system for the 3rd time today and start over i guess
[08:19] <zhiland> can i chat with some one who can help me with firefox?
[08:19] <RKR> Hi every body
[08:19] <Slart> zhiland: just ask your question.. if someone knows they will probably answer
[08:19] <darlek> !partition | edogzilla
[08:19] <bullgard4> oDuda: No, Ubuntu 9.04 does not suck. What sucks, is you. You should learn to use Ubuntu 9.04 and not blame it for faults that you are making.
[08:19] <coz_> WIGGMPk,  I am coming up with nothing guy  sorry  I am going to suggest  #linux  also  if you havent tried there
[08:20] <WIGGMPk> coz_: thanks for trying
[08:20] <edogzilla> i have 2 250 gb hd's on my comp. Windows xp is on one and 9.04 on the other. the problem is that only half of each HD is usable. i can't resize the partitions so that my whole hard drive is usable. that make sense?
[08:20] <coz_> WIGGMPk,  no problem just give #linux channel a shot  a couple times  in case  someone is not there right now
[08:20] <raden> anyone have any ideas for redundency without loss of performance
[08:20] <RKR> I have installed APTonCD in my system but when i tried to work with it after 70 % the error message is comming that "Fatal Error: Failed to fork" What can i do?
[08:21] <darlek> !gparted
[08:21] <raden> we have way to much valuable data to lose plus this machine runs are VOIP system
[08:21] <Slart> raden: buy a real raid card? but that will cost you lots of monies
[08:21] <zhiland> so, first when i open firefox, it said that it was already running and to close it, i fixed that by going into profile manager and deleteing my profiles and starting a new one. now, alot of the buttons on pages dont work (google, ubuntu forum login ect.)
[08:21] <edogzilla> i tried to use gparder to resize the partitions but for whatever reason the resize option is greyed out
[08:21] <raden> Slart, ill have to look into that a true hardware card with onboard memory etc...
[08:21] <zhiland> and it works flawlessly when i sudo firefox
[08:22] <zhiland> oh and also the back and forward buttons dont work
[08:22] <Slart> zhiland: never ever use sudo with gui apps..
[08:22] <Slart> !gksudo | zhiland
[08:22] <fennng> Anyone introduce a file manager under terminal?
[08:22] <edogzilla> is there another way to resize the partitions?
[08:23] <Slart> fennng: mc?
[08:23] <fennng> Slart: I will try mc
[08:23] <edogzilla> i paid alot of money for the bigger hard drives it would kill me to not be able to use them
[08:23] <zhiland> ok i see, im a newb so thats what i tried
[08:23] <Kevdude55> USB mouse not working, only works on reboot. Ideas?
[08:23] <Slart> edogzilla: hmm.. that sounds weird.. can you pastebin the output from "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[08:23] <Trentor> Gen Q: Anyone have a favorite media player that has iPod support?
[08:24] <edogzilla> slart: sorry but i have no idea what you just said
[08:24] <Slart> !paste | edogzilla
[08:24] <darlek> ubottu, the ubuntu bot has a lot of info in the link there,
[08:24] <Slart> edogzilla: or.. an easier way.. run this in a terminal  "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[08:24] <Trentor> ubottu: you are much intelligence <3
[08:25] <Slart> edogzilla: it will install a small program that does this "pastebinning" thing for you
[08:25] <edogzilla> slart. ok its installed. how do i use it?
[08:25] <RKR> ubottu: My APTonCD is not working please help me
[08:25] <Kevdude55> No one has any idea?
[08:25] <Slart> edogzilla: now run this "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit"
[08:26] <Gamarok__> !koffice
[08:26] <edogzilla> http://pastebin.com/f429e11ee
[08:26] <fennng> Slart: waaa, you reminded me, I have already installed mc. but it behave unexpected under putty, anything else?
[08:26] <zhiland> ok so now that im up to date with gksudo, how do i get it to function properly without using the terminal and just the button
[08:26] <edogzilla> slart: did i do that right?
[08:26] <Slart> edogzilla: it will first run the command "sudo fdisk -l" which prints out info on your harddrives.. then pipe that, " | " , to pastebinit.. which will post the info to a website and give you the url which you then tells us here.. so we can see what your harddrives/partitions look like
[08:26] <GW76> does anyone know how to install just the java plugins for ff?? not the whole java??
[08:27] <Slart> edogzilla: great.. you can go to that url yourself and see what it looks like
[08:27] <roccity_> zhiland, you can use this for a command in the button gksu "whatever program"
[08:27] <Kevdude55> help?
[08:27] <Slart> edogzilla: it should be the same you will get if you just run "sudo fdisk -l" on your computer
[08:27] <edogzilla> slart: heh. i don't understand any of it
[08:27] <Gamarok__> !koffice info
[08:27] <kz> bit of an off chance here but is there a way to make it when you click the top panel it brings the currently maximised window in the foreground into focus?
[08:27] <roccity_> zhiland, sorry gksudo
[08:27] <edogzilla> slart: k cool ty
[08:27] <Rapghere> I have installed APTonCD in my system but when i tried to work with it after 70 % the error message is comming that "Fatal Error: Failed to fork" What can i do?
[08:27] <zhiland> won that invoke the password promt every time?
[08:28] <kz> eg i have firefox maximised in the background, a few windows in the foreground, and i want to click the top panel to make firefox into focus
[08:28] <darlek> probably need to first sudo aptitude install pastebinit
[08:28] <roccity_> zhiland, so if I wanted to launch firefox as root I would use "gksudo firefox" without quotes
[08:28] <zhiland> fight i did that
[08:28] <zhiland> right
[08:28] <roccity_> zhiland, yeah it would but thats the put of root or sudo
[08:28] <zhiland> so the problem im having is when i dont do that, firefox is all jacked up
[08:29] <zhiland> like the buttons dont work in web pages, google doesnt work ect
[08:29] <darlek> !find pastebinit (if you haven't grabbed this already...)
[08:29] <fennng> ls
[08:29] <zhiland> so your saying just have it run that way all the time
[08:29] <Slart> edogzilla: ok, you're right.. two hard drives.. about 30.000 cylinders on each... first one cylinder 1-16708 is ntfs.. that's about half the available size... the ubuntu partition seems to be using the whole drive though
[08:29] <roccity_> zhiland, what about uninstalling firefox
[08:29] <kz> bit of an off chance here but is there a way to make it when you click the top panel it brings the currently maximised window in the foreground into focus? eg i have firefox maximised in the background, a few windows in the foreground, and i want to click the top panel to make firefox into focus
[08:29] <Arkhalis> still looking around to no avail... general answer is ubuntu doesn't work on the 1008HA eeepc yet
[08:30] <zhiland> in place of somthing else
[08:30] <zhiland> or just a reinstall
[08:30] <Arkhalis> guess i'll have to stick to windows xp for now ><
[08:30] <darlek> Arkhalis, isn't there a netbook iso?
[08:30] <nascentmind> Hi. When i play flash videos i don't get any sound in ubuntu jaunty. how can if fix it?
[08:30] <edogzilla> slart: then why when i go to places my drive tells me it has 137.4 GB? its a fresh install so i havent filled up the drive
[08:30] <Arkhalis> Yes
[08:30] <darlek> I thought i saw one
[08:30] <Arkhalis> i am using it
[08:30] <roccity_> zhiland, reinstall "sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox" from a terminal it may remove your settings to though
[08:30] <Slart> edogzilla: so you want the windows drive to use the entire first hard drive?
[08:31] <Arkhalis> problem is neither wired or wireless internet work on 9.04
[08:31] <edogzilla> slart: ubuntu too
[08:31] <darlek> argh i see
[08:31] <Arkhalis> i can't get either to work at all
[08:31] <zhiland> bummer, then what command to bring it back?
[08:31] <Slart> edogzilla: oh.. hmm.. is this an old computer?
[08:31] <edogzilla> slart: brand new
[08:31] <nascentmind> anybody?
[08:31] <darlek> Arkhalis, what type of wireless card?
[08:31] <Rapghere> Does any body know about APTonCD?
[08:31] <roccity_> zhiland, "sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:32] <Rapghere> Pls help me with APTonCD
[08:32] <Arkhalis> i have no idea the specifics of it...
[08:32] <darlek> !anybody
[08:32] <Slart> edogzilla: can you do the same with this command? "sudo df -h"
[08:32] <zhiland> same problem
[08:32] <Arkhalis> right now i need wired internet though which won't work
[08:32] <edogzilla> slart: what i would like is for each HD to be dedicated to its respective OS
[08:32] <Slart> edogzilla: ok, got it
[08:33] <fennng> mc with screen, messy!!
[08:33] <darlek> Arkhalis, lshw -network will tell you ;)
[08:33] <Rapghere> PLs help me with APTonCD
[08:33] <Arkhalis> in terminal?
[08:33] <kz> bit of an off chance here but is there a way to make it when you click the top panel it brings the currently maximised window in the foreground into focus? eg i have firefox maximised in the background, a few windows in the foreground, and i want to click the top panel to make firefox into focus cmon guyssssss lol
[08:33] <darlek> whoops not with -network...
[08:33] <roccity_> zhiland, ok you can purge firefox with the previous command to remove and then go to your home folder and remove the firefox directory
[08:33] <Slart> fennng: hmm.. not off the top of my head, no.. mc is the only one I've used.. sorry
[08:33] <darlek> yes terminal.. lshw... list hardware
[08:34] <edogzilla> slart:http://pastebin.com/f544dd465
[08:34] <kealc> Rapghere: have you read the user documentation?
[08:34] <Gamarok__> guys can anyone tell me what remastersys is
[08:34] <fennng> Slart: I found out that the problem is caused by screen,
[08:34] <zhiland> theres no firefox in my home folder
[08:34] <Arkhalis> the wireless is ar9285
[08:35] <Slart> edogzilla: ok, your ubuntu drive is curently 225 GB.. so that one is ok.. now go to the system menu, click on administration, partition editor
[08:35] <Arkhalis> i don't see anything for wired
[08:35] <roccity_> zhiland, what about .config
[08:35] <zhiland> etc there is
[08:35] <edogzilla> slart: done
[08:35] <zhiland> firefox-3.0
[08:36] <zhiland> in /etc
[08:36] <Slart> edogzilla: you should now see a graphical view of your hard drives.. one at a time.. you can change which drive you see in the top right corner
[08:36] <sysdoc> Looking for a HD cloning tool, have looked at partimage but doesn't appear that it can clone a partition from one HD to another.
[08:36] <zhiland> no .config in home
[08:36] <edogzilla> slart: yup
[08:36] <roccity_> zhiland, what about /etc/firefox/profile?
[08:36] <kealc> it's in .mozilla
[08:36] <kealc> isn't it?
[08:36] <Arkhalis> if i can get wired internet to work i'll be happy for now
[08:36] <roccity_> zhiland, and pref
[08:36] <Slart> edogzilla: your windows drive should be called /dev/sda
[08:37] <zhiland> delete em?
[08:37] <edogzilla> slart:yup i'm looking at it now
[08:37] <kealc> zhiland: .mozilla/firefox
[08:37] <hgg> How do I make my inbuit mic work...
[08:37] <Slart> sysdoc: if the partitions you want to copy from/to is exactly the same size you could use dd
[08:37] <darlek> Arkhalis, here's the results with my wifi cropped from lshw... so I have an Atheros chip.  http://pastebin.com/f193268d9
[08:37] <Slart> edogzilla: is the windows partition using only half the space?
[08:37] <edogzilla> slart: yes
[08:37] <zhiland> etc/firefox-3.0 thers pref and profile
[08:38] <edogzilla> salrt: 104.89 GB unnallocated
[08:38] <Slart> edogzilla: ok.. right click on the windows partition, select "Unmount"
[08:38] <darlek> top
[08:38] <Arkhalis> yeah mine is atheros
[08:38] <Arkhalis> AR9285
[08:38] <roccity_> zhiland, yeah after you purge firefox do locate | firefox and see what is left behind and delete that
[08:38] <edogzilla> slart; i dont see an unmount option
[08:38] <zhiland> k now what
[08:38] <Arkhalis> however, the wireless should work after installing compat-wireless
[08:38] <Arkhalis> but to do that i need wired internet
[08:38] <zhiland> reinstall
[08:38] <Arkhalis> which is where i am having issues
[08:39] <zhiland> and.... same problem
[08:39] <Arkhalis> i can't get wired internet
[08:39] <fosscape> omfg
[08:39] <fosscape> my ubuntu gicing error me
[08:39] <roccity_> zhiland, what is happening with your firefox? that the buttons and such is messed up?
[08:39] <edogzilla> slart: the unmount option is greyed out
[08:39] <Slart> edogzilla: hmm.. you right click on the windows partition, you get a small popup menu with "New", "Delete" etc?
[08:39] <fosscape> please ge held me i need hgelp
[08:39] <edogzilla> slart: yes...unmount is greyed out
[08:40] <zhiland> the back and forward buttons dont work, the google search bar doesnt work, and the links inside pages dont work
[08:40] <Slart> edogzilla: ok.. close the partition editor again
[08:40] <fosscape> i need help
[08:40] <fosscape> and then it work
[08:40] <fosscape> yes?
[08:40] <edogzilla> slart: done
[08:40] <zhiland> like logging into ubuntu ect
[08:40] <Slart> edogzilla: then run this in a terminal "sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs"
[08:40] <roccity_> zhiland, is it like that with other browsers as well?
[08:40] <sysdoc> Slart, I'm, looking to move my Ubuntu install to another drive. Not looking to keep the partitions the same size
[08:40] <Slart> edogzilla: it will install some tools for working with ntfs drives
[08:40] <zhiland> what another browser i could install
[08:40] <roccity_> zhiland, have you tried opera and galeon?
[08:41] <zhiland> ill try
[08:41] <kealc> zhiland: opera is quite nice
[08:41] <roccity_> zhiland, hold union break
[08:41] <edogzilla> slart: done
[08:41] <kealc> zhiland: I think opera.com has a .deb
[08:41] <fosscape> yes?
[08:41] <Slart> sysdoc: hmm.. then dd might now work.. but there has to be tools to do it.. I'll check in a minute
[08:41] <fosscape> yes?
[08:41] <fosscape> yes?
[08:41] <FloodBot3> fosscape: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:41] <Slart> edogzilla: ok, start the partition editor again
[08:41] <Slart> !attitude | fosscape
[08:41] <cyberjorge> hello everyone! :)
[08:41] <Rapghere> kealc: I read that but the error message is that "Fatal Error: Failed to Fork"
[08:42] <sysdoc> Slart,  ddrescue looks like it may work
[08:42] <edogzilla> slart: still cant unmount. can do a couple other things tho, but not unmount
[08:42] <edogzilla> slart: but i CAN resize
[08:42] <cyberjorge> anyone successfully used and configured mdm? a multiseat display manager?
[08:42] <Slart> edogzilla: well.. do you have a "Resize" option?
[08:42] <Slart> edogzilla: ah.. great.. lets do that
[08:42] <darlek> Arkhalis, not sure why you need wired connection.  I use madwifi for my Atheros card but you need linux header and linux ports installed first.  However once loaded the madwifi.sh script installs the drivers.  This is just a different driver than compat
[08:43] <edogzilla> slart: cool it worked, but why is my ubuntu HD messed up?
[08:43] <Slart> edogzilla: messed up? how is it messed up?
[08:43] <edogzilla> slart: when i go to places, it shows me my drive. it says it is 137.4 GB. but it should be just shy of 250
[08:44] <Slart> !info pcopy | sysdoc
[08:44] <Slart> edogzilla: that is the windows drive
[08:44] <edogzilla> slart: whoa. when i resizes the NTFS, it fixed the problem. cool thanx so much!
[08:44] <zhiland> wow, this is a pain in the butt, id rather just run firefox in kgsudo everytime
[08:45] <zhiland> gksudo
[08:45] <Slart> edogzilla: not the ubuntu drive.. the ubuntu drive is just called / ... you won't see that in places or "Computer"
[08:45] <kealc> zhiland: where did you get firefox from?
[08:45] <Gamarok__> !iceweasel
[08:45] <Slart> edogzilla: you're welcome
[08:45] <edogzilla> now if someone could just make wine not suck so bad I'd be golden!
[08:45] <zhoujingrui> i need a help
[08:45] <kealc> edogzilla: lol
[08:45] <zhiland> ubuntu
[08:45] <zhoujingrui> my  ubuntu 8.10 no sound at all
[08:45] <zhiland> built in theses days
[08:45] <roccity_> zhiland, ok what happened in the other browser
[08:45] <zhiland> lol
[08:46] <hgg> Hi.. Sound input does not seem to be working for me.. I am not able record sound with Sound Recorder application.. But it works for me in windows.. So it is not a hardware issue.. Can someone please help?
[08:46] <Slart> edogzilla: well.. we've got this cryogenic freezing thing... wait 10 years or so.. =)
[08:46] <zhiland> havent done it
[08:46] <zhiland> im having other problems
[08:46] <zhiland> im just starting with the biggest
[08:46] <roccity_> zhiland, like what
[08:47] <zhiland> when i try to loggoff the taskbar dissapears
[08:47] <edogzilla> slart: sign me up for the freezer! i wanna play my freaking game already!
[08:47] <roccity_> zhiland, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:47] <zhiland> like when i click the button
[08:47] <zhiland> 8.04
[08:47] <zhiland> ithink
[08:47] <darlek> !sound | hgg
[08:47] <zhiland> hold on
[08:47] <roccity_> zhiland, as it should if you log off
[08:47] <kealc> hgg: double-click on the sound, go to preferances and add microphone, turn the volume up
[08:47] <zhiland> no like when i click the running guy, it should pop up with some options right? like shutdown restart loggoff
[08:48] <roccity_> zhiland, yeah
[08:48] <zhiland> well it just makes my taskbar dissapear
[08:48] <hgg> thanx  let me check it out
[08:48] <roccity_> zhiland, if you type in a terminal uname -a what does it say
[08:48] <zhiland> and i have to alt tab between stuff and hope my term doesnt close
[08:49] <roccity_> zhiland, is this a fresh install?
[08:49] <zhiland> Linux zach-desktop 2.6.24-24-generic #1 SMP Wed Apr 15 15:54:25 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:49] <hgg> kealc: How do I double click on sound ? where is the icon?
[08:49] <sparr> I need to defragment my /home...  shake doesn't seem to accomplish anything, what do I need to do to "make it work"?
[08:49] <roccity_> zhiland, have you upgraded anything?
[08:49] <kealc> hgg: can you play sound?
[08:50] <zhiland> been running for awile, havent done anything major, did the ntfs 3g thing so i could use my other drives
[08:50] <zhiland> had to use the force option
[08:50] <kealc> hgg: the icon should be to your right, near the time
[08:50] <kealc> top right
[08:50] <roccity_> zhiland, are you on broadband?
[08:50] <darlek> he could be using an older kernel and still load Jaunty.  I did this with Ibex when I had problems with wifi.  However if there is a program need for a kernal file only then there would be an error or no action
[08:50] <zhiland> vios
[08:51] <zhiland> fios
[08:51] <zhiland> fiber optic
[08:51] <zhiland> 35 up 40 down
[08:51] <roccity_> zhiland, if you open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get upgrade" what happens?
[08:51] <goal_lax> Hello! I want to have kde instead of gnome, is it enough to apply sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop to remove all the package belonging to gnome?
[08:52] <zhiland> sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:52] <zhiland> [sudo] password for jeremy:
[08:52] <zhiland> Reading package lists... Done
[08:52] <zhiland> Building dependency tree
[08:52] <zhiland> Reading state information... Done
[08:52] <zhiland> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:52] <FloodBot3> zhiland: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:52] <JNSamuel> failbot. -
[08:52] <geirha> zhiland: gnome-panel is likely printing some error messages when it crashes. Those messages end up in ~/.xsession-errors . Open that file in an editor and see if you see any errors related to gnome-panel
[08:53] <darlek> hgg, System > Preferences > Sound, then select Alsa or other items in the middle of the window
[08:53] <Gamarok__> !xchat
[08:53] <zhiland> its empty
[08:53] <stratovarius> hi all
[08:54] <Guest21081>  Sadly I just noticed an hour ago that (x-1)!*x=x!
[08:54] <Guest21081> =/
[08:54] <b0r3d> hi.  Is there a command line MSN client?  Just like psyBNC or zIRC that remain in the background and they all you to conncet to them from your local client
[08:54] <JNSamuel> b0r3d: I suggest bitlebee, you can use your IRC client
[08:54] <stratovarius> how to mount ntfs in reading and writing? i already mout them in reading only but i'd like to write too...how to modify my fstab? those are the 2 lines related to my ntfs partitions /dev/sda1    /media/sda1 ntfs  umask=0222  0    0
[08:54] <stratovarius> /dev/sda5    /media/sda5 ntfs  umask=0222  0    0
[08:55] <hajder> hi I have set up a cron job with with crontab -e for my user. The job is simple, it echoes the date to a file and is set to run every min. But the file is empty :(. Is there an explicit command for starting the cron ?
[08:55] <geirha> zhiland: I doubt it's empty. You might have typed the filename wrong so it opened a new file. Try in a terminal: cat ~/.xs<tab>
[08:55] <b0r3d> JNSamuel, i'm interesting in an msn client..
[08:56] <darlek> !fstab | stratovarius
[08:56] <zhiland> jeremy@jeremy-desktop:~$ cat ~/.xs<tab>
[08:56] <zhiland> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[08:56] <zhiland> jeremy@jeremy-desktop:~$
[08:57] <geirha> zhiland: Type cat ~/.xs, then hit the TAB key to auto-complete it
[08:58] <Taejo> I want to do a fresh install of Ubuntu. I want to download all the necessary files at university (where I have a fast connection to a mirror). What files should I download to do an install, and how do I install from harddrive?
[08:59] <kholerabbi> According to system monitor I am using bandwidth I don't expect to be using - how can I see network activity for processes?
[08:59] <Gamarok__> !x chat
[08:59] <zhiland> cat: /home/jeremy/.xs: No such file or directory
[08:59] <darlek> !info xchat
[09:00] <fccf> kholerabbi -- netstat -ntap will show what is connected
[09:00] <kholerabbi> fccf: thank you
[09:00] <fccf> kholerabbi: np
[09:00] <Trentor> Question: My laptop keyboard is querty, I have a dvorak usb keyboard, when I change the keyboard default to dvorak it only changes the laptop keyboard, how do I change it to dvorak on my usb keyboard?
[09:01] <mirage> Hi, I am Mirage
[09:01] <mirage> Any sexy girl here?
[09:02] <fccf> appropriate! mirage
[09:02] <JNSamuel> this is not a porn channel.
[09:02] <JNSamuel> -
[09:02] <simion314> Taejo  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux, see there at without cd
[09:02] <darlek> !dvorak (don't know if that will help)
[09:02] <darlek> !dvorak
[09:02] <darlek> nope
[09:02] <darlek> hmm
[09:02] <Taejo> simion314: great, just what I was looking for
[09:03] <Trentor> darlek: I know what dvorak looks like
[09:03] <geirha> zhiland: That's weird. Are the panels gone at the moment?
[09:03] <sisak> hali
[09:03] <zhiland> nope
[09:04] <Trentor> but it will change the settings for my laptop not my usb keyboard
[09:04] <geirha> zhiland: Open an extra terminal, then click the button that makes it crash, then in the terminal, try to start the panels again by running "gnome-panel"
[09:05] <zhiland> that brought em back
[09:05] <darlek> !install
[09:05] <geirha> zhiland: Try making it crash again, and pastebin the output in the terminal, if any
[09:06] <zeeble> Is there a way to enable compiz/desktop effects in Jaunty 904? I have a dell 1525 inspiron, and desktop effects dont seem to work
[09:06] <darlek> Sorry trentor I was seeing if the ubottu bot had anything on it
[09:07] <fccf> zeeble: run lspci and post to pastebin
[09:07] <zhiland> i think if post the output ittl block me
[09:07] <geirha> !paste | zhiland
[09:07] <hoohaah> i plan on setting up a debian sid box alongside my ubuntu box. Will most versions be similar, and are all maintenance procedures the same?
[09:07] <raghav> hey all sorry just new to ubuntu
[09:07] <darlek> usually you have to first sudo aptitude install pastebinit on ubuntu as it's not already loaded
[09:08] <hoohaah> zhiland: apt-get install pastebinit, and you can use upload shell output or files easily
[09:08] <darlek> ftw
[09:08] <hoohaah> quality > timing
[09:08] <raghav> so is this the place for asking for help
[09:08] <raghav> or can we just chat normally
[09:08] <zeeble> fccf: http://pastebin.com/m5c2abd3d  it is a intel GMA965 chipset
[09:09] <mirage> I am a sexy boy here
[09:09] <darlek> !ot |mirage
[09:09] <hoohaah> raghav: our asses are unplugged, if that's what you mean
[09:09] <hoohaah> think mule playing rock guitar
[09:09] <raghav> look im new what u mean?
[09:09] <fccf> zeeble: ok, now post your xorg.conf
[09:10] <zhiland> ok installed how od i use it
[09:10] <zhiland> how do i use pastbin?
[09:10] <hoohaah> raghav: it means you can ask ubuntu questions (mind you, not every little thing you can't solve.. consult ubuntu help pages or google first) but we don't have any stern nazi ops
[09:11] <zeeble> fccf: o.o my xorg.conf is a blank file .. atleast the one in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:11] <hoohaah> zhiland: pastebinit /path/to/file
[09:11] <raghav> ok
[09:11] <raghav> thank youi
[09:11] <geirha> zhiland: Run pastebinit in another terminal, copy paste the data to where you're running pastebinit, then hit Ctrl+D
[09:11] <raghav> how do i invite my other friends
[09:11] <raghav> ?
[09:11] <darlek> have the output of a command piped to pastebinit, ie: lshw | pastebinit and it will spit out a URL
[09:11] <geirha> zhiland: err no, sorry, strike that
[09:11] <zeeble> you dont invite friends on IRC, raghav
[09:11] <fccf> zeeble: you shouldn't have a blank file... x wont start without something readable there
[09:12] <kanon-mat> invite? just join
[09:12] <raghav> ok
[09:12] <hoohaah> zhiland: if you're using irssi, you can output result of pastebinit command in channel for all to see
[09:12] <Gamarok__> this is a support channel raghav
[09:12] <raboof> one of my network printers is marked 'stopped' because it coulnd't be resolved
[09:12] <hoohaah> not sure of other irc clients
[09:12] <zhiland> so just copy and paste
[09:12] <zhoujingrui> anyone help me?
[09:12] <raboof> i made the machine available again - now how do I make the printing subsystem retry? it seems to remain 'stopped'
[09:12] <djones> raghav: If you're looking for a general chat channel about ubuntu, you should join #ubuntu-offtopic, #ubuntu is for support questions only
[09:12] <raghav> o rite ok sorry then, should i use pidgen for that?
[09:12] <raghav> ok thanks
[09:12] <geirha> zhiland: You'll have to store it in a file first if you want to use pastebinit. Otherwise, open ubuntu.paste.com in a web browser and paste it there
[09:13] <raghav> sorry
[09:13] <fccf> zeeble: run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:13] <fccf> that will create a new xorg.conf
[09:13] <zeeble> ok
[09:13] <hoohaah> geirha: wrong. pastebinit can take input from stdin/out
[09:13] <zeeble> fccf: well, my X is running.. and the xorg.conf file is blankl
[09:13] <zeeble> is it anywhere other than /etc/X11/?
[09:13] <Dday> How do i find out the directory of an application?
[09:13] <darlek> zhiland, actually no you don't have to save it to a file.  Sometimes maybe...  ie: lshw | pastebinit and it will spit out a URL without needing a file
[09:13] <zeeble> which applicationname, Dday
[09:14] <fccf> zeeble: shouldn't be - the default location is there
[09:14] <geirha> hoohaah: I'm testing it myself, when I hit ctrl+d it just gives keyboardinterrupt catched, instead of posting the stuff pasted to stdin
[09:14] <zhiland> lol wow
[09:14] <zeeble> fccf: where can i post a ls -al output screenshot?
[09:14] <Dday> Neverball
[09:14] <zhiland> you guys lost me
[09:14] <zeeble> nvm. wait.
[09:14] <darlek> zhiland, so just take whatever command you need, and pipe it to pastebinit
[09:14] <hoohaah> geirha: from man page: -i [filename] (- for reading from stdin)
[09:14] <fccf> email it to me metatecque at gmail.com
[09:14] <hoohaah> geirha: ie $ pastebinit -
[09:14] <kanon-mat> Dday, locate applicationname finds files for you
[09:15] <geirha> zhiland: Ok, let's try it a different way. Run "gnome-panel | pastebinit", then make gnome-panel crash again
[09:15] <zhoujingrui> my system no sound
[09:15] <geirha> hoohaah: Yes, try it, it doesn't work.
[09:15] <zhoujingrui> :-(
[09:15] <zeeble> fccf: ok, hold on
[09:15] <darlek> !sound | zhoujingrui
[09:15] <yoyit2> lightscribe jaunty?
[09:15] <hoohaah> geirha: you must terminate paste with carriage return
[09:16] <hoohaah> geirha: ie hit enter before C-d
[09:16] <yoyit2> disc labeling jaunty?
[09:16] <geirha> hoohaah: Yes, and after hitting ctrl+d, it says "KeyboardInterrupt catched."
[09:16] <hoohaah> geirha: works perfectly here
[09:16] <zhiland> dude i dont know how to pastebinit
[09:16] <zhiland> lol
[09:16] <hoohaah> geirha: not sure how you're messing up
[09:16] <zhiland> jeremy@jeremy-desktop:~$ gnome-panel | pastebinit
[09:16] <zhiland> then i crashed it
[09:17] <zhiland> then i did the cammand again
[09:17] <Gamarok__> i kinda had a problem i recently installed blue man and well i cant see it's applet the only way i can launch it is by typing blueman-applet in a term it isn't even present in the menu
[09:17] <zhiland> then
[09:17] <zhiland> (gnome-panel:6977): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -5 and height 25
[09:17] <zhiland> that spat out
[09:17] <FloodBot3> zhiland: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:17] <hoohaah> zhiland: you're sending oodles of content through the pipe
[09:17] <geirha> hoohaah: I'm on 8.04, maybe it's fixed in newer versions
[09:17] <hoohaah> geirha: check man page. functionality in your particular version would be listed
[09:17] <zeeble> fccf: just sent it. check the screenshot
[09:18] <hoohaah> geirha: how are you pasting to stdin?
[09:18] <darlek> and the URL is???
[09:18] <hoohaah> geirha: the version you're running supports stdin
[09:18] <Gamarok__> i kinda had a problem i recently installed blue man and well i cant see it's applet the only way i can launch it is by typing blueman-applet in a term it isn't even present in the menu can anyone help me
[09:18] <hoohaah> geirha: http://pastebin.com/fcd11189
[09:18] <geirha> hoohaah: Only if stdin doesn't come from the keyboard
[09:19] <hoohaah> geirha: er, not quite
[09:19] <hoohaah> stdin is stdin
[09:19] <Ali_> hi, i am using jaunty but i can't get my sound working in vmware server [in which i am running windows as the guest op sys]
[09:19] <geirha> hoohaah: Yes, but I'm telling you, it catches the Ctrl+D instead of treating it as EOF
[09:19] <danes> anyone knows where can I get inifo on remote assistance from linux to windows or viceversa?
[09:19] <fccf> zeeble: did you run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:20] <zeeble> fccf: not yet. hold on
[09:20] <zeeble> wont that kill my windows?
[09:20] <Trentor> man dvorak makes my brain hurt...
[09:20] <Ali_> not quite sure what to do
[09:20] <zeeble> er, i meant the graphical interface. not windows :p
[09:20] <Ali_> how do i set vmware to use pulseaudio? i am not sure what it is using currently
[09:20] <Ali_> any direction will be appreciated
[09:20] <fccf> zeeble: true... save now
[09:20] <hoohaah> geirha: que sera, sera
[09:21] <zeeble> yeah. wait. bbiab.
[09:21] <darlek> Trentor, any luck?
[09:21] <zhiland> so as far as pastebinit goes, id how to use it, so i cant do much there
[09:22] <geirha> zhiland: Hm. You could try resetting the panels (to the way they were when you first installed), have you tried that?
[09:22] <hoohaah> zhiland: what are you trying to paste, exactly?
[09:22] <darlek> !samba | danes
[09:22] <zhiland> yeah
[09:22] <geirha> hoohaah: the output of gnome-panel when it crashes. It doesn't seem to end up in .xsession-errors
[09:22] <zhiland> im not sure hooha
[09:22] <anternative> 1387 people ,that is wowzer
[09:22] <Gamarok__> guy what can i use to remater my ubuntu install
[09:23] <Gamarok__> !remaster
[09:23] <Gamarok__> never mind guys
[09:23] <Slart> Ali_: if it's using alsa you might be able to run it with padsp
[09:23] <zhiland> ubuntu is broken, firefox doesnt work, cd doesnt work, ntfs took for EVER to get working but i got it
[09:23] <hoohaah> geirha: I'd suggest strace, but that'd just confuse him/her more
[09:23] <ManDay> Is there a way I can replace the icon for the main-menu in gnome?
[09:23] <zhiland> so im going to do a clean install and hope ofr the best
[09:23] <geirha> zhiland: One last try: "gnome-panel 2>&1 | pastebinit"
[09:24] <ManDay> The ubuntu icon is too small to click
[09:24] <geirha> zhiland: then when it crashes, it should output an URL
[09:24] <fccf> stavrosLinux: are you stavrosthehunter from arcata
[09:24] <hoohaah> stdout may provide clues too
[09:24] <zhiland> it spat that out and i didnt crahs it
[09:24] <zhiland> http://pastebin.com/fff6ca5a
[09:24] <Dday> Does anyone know how i can add a replay to neverball?
[09:24] <Ali_> Slart, i'm not sure what it is running with. I am using jaunty and thus pulseaudio so how would i set it to use that?
[09:25] <Ali_> Slart, thanks for your help too
[09:25] <Dday> As in i have downloaded one, but i want to view it in neverball now
[09:25] <darlek> nice idea geirha he got it
[09:25] <geirha> hoohaah: Yeah, that's what I tried to get him/her to paste
[09:25] <hoohaah> 2> is stderr, right?
[09:25] <fccf> wb zeeble - any data in xorg.conf now
[09:25] <zeeble> fccf: http://pastebin.com/m4019569f
[09:25] <zhiland> http://pastebin.com/fff6ca5a
[09:25] <zhane> how do i install pdf printer for ubuntu
[09:25] <sea-gull> how to turn off blinking in gnu screen?
[09:25] <zhiland> sry double
[09:26] <darlek> hoohaah, yep
[09:26] <hoohaah> zhiland: kill existing gnome-panel's
[09:26] <hoohaah> zhiland: $pkill gnome-panel
[09:26] <hoohaah> zhiland: then try that command again
[09:26] <fccf> zeeble: that is a good start - now lemme do a little research on your card 5 min
[09:26] <Slart> Ali_: how do you start vmware from a terminal? just run "vmware" ?
[09:27] <zeeble> fccf: afaik, there is prob with the xorg drivers for Intel chipsets. i was wondering if a fix had been built
[09:27] <zhiland> i did the command, then it died on its own and it didnt spit anything out null term
[09:27] <zeeble> basically, all intel chipset graphics cards, have no compiz running :(
[09:27] <zeeble> esp on laptops.
[09:28] <Ali_> Slart, i run it from the web browser - i'm running version 2
[09:28] <Slart> !intel
[09:28] <fccf> I have been able to get compiz running on that the intel machines - I just have to remember how
[09:28] <zhiland> it is open on a null term, and when i close it the gnome crashes
[09:28] <anternative> is there real dif. btw. desktop & server edition?
[09:28] <ManDay> The ubuntu icon is too small to click
[09:28] <ManDay> Is there a way I can replace the icon for the main-menu in gnome?
[09:29] <zeeble> fccf: lol. i found that out too.. but i was wondering if there's a better fix.
[09:29] <Ali_> Slart, the problem is that i don't have sound in vmware - the rest of my apps are fine and are using pulseaudio - how do i get vmware to use pulseaudio too pls?
[09:29] <hoohaah> Slarti
[09:29] <hgg> yes.. i forgot to mention.. i am able to play sound..
[09:29] <largos> ку
[09:29] <largos> всем
[09:29] <largos> ыыыыыыы
[09:29] <kealc> Ali_: try virtualbox instead
[09:29] <FloodBot3> largos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:29] <darlek> ManDay, you can resize the icons on the panel, right-click, properties
[09:29] <ManDay> And is there a way (maybe to set in compiz) to move windows FREELY? Even Alt + LMB doesnt enable me to move windows across borders
[09:29] <fccf> zeeble: It can be made to work - need more info
[09:29] <Slart> anternative: server version is command line only by default
[09:29] <Tootoot222> Ali_: turn off everything else that makes sound, and try vmware
[09:29] <ManDay> darlek, i dont want to change my panel
[09:29] <ManDay> just the icon
[09:29] <Ali_> kealc, will i be able to run my current windows image?
[09:30] <fccf> zeeble: uname -a plz
[09:30] <zeeble> fccf: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/04/ubuntu-jaunty-904-intel-graphic-drivers.html
[09:30] <largos> русские есть?
[09:30] <zeeble> fccf: that tells how.
[09:30] <zeeble> largos: english. no cyrillic, mate.
[09:30] <hoohaah> argh, he left
[09:30] <Ali_> Tootoot222, the thing is - i dont get a device busy error - vmware server in the browser says it is connected but just no sound
[09:30] <kealc> Ali_: get it from the site, http://www.virtualbox.org, I'm not sure if you can run your existing image, but at least try out vbox, it's much better in some regards, just be sure to install guest additions
[09:30] <Tootoot222> Ali_: just make sure nothing else is using your sound card, then try vmware
[09:30] <darlek> !ru | largos
[09:30] <Tootoot222> hmm
[09:31] <darlek> !english
[09:31] <zhiland> that crashed every program i had open
[09:31] <hoohaah> geirha: his only real option was to use strace, as when a tool crashes, it usually stops printing anything
[09:31] <Slart> Ali_: then I don't really know what to do.. sorry... padsp is good if you can start it from a command line.. with a browser I don't know what to do
[09:31] <Ali_> what is padsp?
[09:31] <zeeble> fccf: Linux sp-laptop 2.6.30-sp-test SMP Fri May 22 04:54:08 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:31] <darlek> !info padsp
[09:31] <kanon-mat> Dday, the replay .nbr files are in ~/.neverball
[09:32] <paraneetharanc> HI All
[09:32] <ManDay> is there a way (maybe to set in compiz) to move windows FREELY? Even Alt + LMB doesnt enable me to move windows across borders
[09:32] <Slart> Ali_: it's a wrapper like program.. say you've got a program called awesomeprogram.. it uses alsa for audio.. if you start it like this "padsp awesomeprogram" padsp will translate the alsa calls to pulseaudio...
[09:32] <Ali_> so what is better vmware or virtualbox?
[09:32] <darlek> !find padsp | Ali_
[09:32] <zhiland> vmware
[09:32] <geirha> zhiland: Did you run gnome-panel as root?
[09:32] <darlek> seems to be a part of pulseaudio
[09:33] <Ali_> aah Slart sounds good - but how do i know which device is vmware using?
[09:33] <zhiland> no
[09:33] <Slart> ManDay: there is a setting somewhere in the settings manager.. let me check
[09:33] <zhiland> thers a term open and if i close out of it, it will crash my gnome
[09:33] <Ali_> pulseaudio-utils is already the newest version.
[09:33] <zhiland> jeremy@jeremy-desktop:~$  gnome-panel 2>&1 | pastebinit
[09:33] <fccf> zeeble: I had it working in Hardy almost ootb .. I am kinda a LTS guy and you may have to either do the reccommends/unreccommened - or wait until they fix the bug - or roll back to 8.04 LTS Hardy
[09:33] <zhiland> and then blank
[09:34] <fccf> zeeble: my 3 1/2 cents
[09:34] <kanon-mat> Dday, does replay work?
[09:34] <geirha> zhiland: Hm.
[09:34] <zeeble> fccf: yep. i'll wait then.
[09:34] <zhiland> yeah
[09:34] <zhiland> and my firefox still doesnt work
[09:35] <zeeble> fccf: i had a slow laptop for a long long time, and now that i got a decent machine, the eye candy doesnt eork. hehe
[09:35] <darlek> zhiland, have you tried the livecd?
[09:35] <Dday> Yeah it does, cheers kanano
[09:35] <Ali_> anyone know how to find out which device vmware is using?
[09:35] <Ali_> audio dev
[09:35] <zhiland> i lost the cd, but i cant get another
[09:35] <Ali_> ?
[09:35] <zhiland> when istarted though everything was perfect
[09:36] <zhiland> that was back in the 8.04 (which is were im at)
[09:36] <Slart> ManDay: take a look att he Desktop Wall plugin.. see if "Edge flipping" is enabled
[09:36] <fccf> zeeble: eyecandy is nice, but fast is really nice -- I'm running a streaming server so the 4 gigs of ram I have is dedicated to the stream and encoding, not too worried about video at this point
[09:36] <zhiland> .
[09:36] <zeeble> fccf: hehe
[09:36] <geirha> zhiland: Could you try creating a new user, and log in as that user? "sudo adduser new_username"
[09:36] <geirha> zhiland: See if you get the same problems
[09:36] <zhiland> ok hold on
[09:37] <ManDay> errm no that means that you drag windows from one desk to another
[09:37] <zeeble> fccf: i actually moved from 9.04 to the next proposed LTS alpha. hoping it had the fix
[09:37] <ManDay> i want to be able to move windows out of ALL desktops
[09:37] <ManDay> so to say
[09:37] <fccf> zeeble: but uptime is now ...  01:36:19 up 10 days,  9:09,  5 users,  load average: 0.53, 0.54, 0.51 --- and I am happy
[09:37] <zhiland> problem
[09:37] <zhiland> i cant logg out
[09:37] <zeeble> nice.
[09:38] <darlek> ManDay, in the pager you can move windows around any which way but I can't move the larger the same way
[09:38] <zhiland> i did just sucesfuly crash my gnome again
[09:38] <zeeble> "successfully"?
[09:38]  * paraneetharanc hello
[09:38] <ManDay> darlek, can you rephrase?
[09:39] <hoohaah> screen would come in handy here
[09:39] <ManDay> just to make clear what i want: My screen is sometimes too small for the window.  so i want to be able to move the window freely so i can see othher parts of it
[09:39] <darlek> ic
[09:40] <fccf> zeeble: success is measured in $   ... unless you are working for a church and then it is measured in length of time in pergatory
[09:40] <hoohaah> who works for the church?!
[09:40] <darlek> ManDay, I had something like that on another system.  I'd have to maximize then the window would let me scroll.  In this case you want the windows manager to move over the open part?
[09:40] <hoohaah> surely they're not paid in brownie points?!
[09:41] <kraut> moin
[09:41] <fccf> hoohaah:  FCCF does aka First Christian Church Fullerton
[09:41] <hoohaah> and you work for the church?
[09:41] <fccf> Hoohaah: as a volunteer
[09:41] <kanon-mat> ManDay, do you mean virtual screen resolution?
[09:42] <darlek> yes
[09:42] <ManDay> darlek, well one option would bee that i'd get scrollbars in the window, but since i dont deem this possible it would be enough for me if i could move the window with a alt-lmb somewhere - and even move the titlebar out of the screen (which isnt possible atm)
[09:42] <hoohaah> fccf: irc-nick choice isn't a plug, is it?
[09:42] <hoohaah> 'coz that's gay
[09:42] <Ali_> anyone know how to find out which audio device vmware is using?
[09:43] <fccf> hoohaah: not really - just identifys this machine and this network ... ie 66.18.141.211
[09:43] <hoohaah> it'd better be. I'd hate to see bible-bashing extended to irc chans
[09:43] <darlek> !vmware
[09:44] <ElPavo> how can SUCK DICKS?
[09:44] <darlek> maybe that doc has the audio device setting
[09:44] <hoohaah> guys, as I have irc joins/parts ignored, can someone notify me when zhiland reconnects?
[09:44] <fccf> ubottu knows little about !christ
[09:44] <fccf> LOL
[09:44] <ElPavo> !ops
[09:44] <ElPavo> :D
[09:45] <hoohaah> paraneetharanc: why are you pm'ing me?!
[09:45] <kealc> hoohaah: for cybering
[09:45] <hoohaah> but I'm underage
[09:45] <kealc> they might be too
[09:45] <hoohaah> and by internet standards, that means I'm 4
[09:45] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[09:45] <Slart> !ot
[09:46] <twopeak> Is there anyone in here who's sucessfully put his ubuntu on his tv? I'm having problems configuring the resolution (xorg.conf)
[09:46] <fccf> twopeak: do you have a nvidia
[09:47] <hoohaah> paraneetharanc: you can ask basic irc questions in #irc which should resolve to #freenode, iirc
[09:47] <ManDay> ***** §"$! My windows keep disappearing!
[09:47] <twopeak> fccf; I discovered I have; so i installed the restricted driver but I cant open it, it always asks me to configure my xorg:conf file first
[09:47] <ManDay> I send them to another workspace and off their gone
[09:48] <fccf> twopeak: use nvidia-settings to create new xorg.conf ... run with sudo and it will detect your card automatically
[09:48] <packetcase> I have a serious error with add/remove. The applicaiton does not prompt for super user password on start up, and can't read the settings
[09:49] <Myrtti> packetcase: do other software installation methods work?
[09:49] <IamSOG> Anyone know where the newly downloaded packages are in ubuntu?
[09:49] <packetcase> Myrtti: I will test, but it seems like add/remove can't read the settings
[09:49] <Myrtti> packetcase: also, do you have root account enabled, and if so, why?
[09:50] <fccf> IamSOG: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:50] <twopeak> fccf: then the nvidia tool starts up and asks me to run nvidia-xconfig as root. but this gives validation errors
[09:50] <IamSOG> thanks fccf
[09:50] <ManDay> Slart, i found a solution
[09:50] <ManDay> in compiz - wndmgm - move - constrain y
[09:50] <ManDay> disabled
[09:51] <fccf> twopeak: do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[09:51] <Slart> ManDay: the one I suggested didn't work?
[09:51] <ManDay> it does anothe rthing
[09:51] <sydneyguy> Hail all
[09:51] <twopeak> fccf. is that a repository? doesn't sound familiar, so I suppose not
[09:52] <sydneyguy> Guys .. which IRc network is the best?
[09:52] <packetcase> Myrtti: I do not have root account enabled, but normally I need to type in admin password to start add/remove
[09:52] <Myrtti> packetcase: ok, your own?
[09:52] <fccf> twopeak: it is a package ubuntu-restricted-extras!
[09:52] <packetcase> Myrtti: yes
[09:52] <kane77> how do I install ttf fonts in ubuntu?
[09:52] <Myrtti> sydneyguy: did you try synaptic?
[09:52] <fccf> ubuntu-restricted-extras!
[09:53] <packetcase> Myrtti: But add/remove have stopped prompting me
[09:53] <Myrtti> kane77: copy them to a dir called .fonts in your home dir
[09:53] <sydneyguy> Guys: Who is using MacBookPro 17" Unibody with Ubuntu 9.04?
[09:53] <fccf> twopeak: it is in universe
[09:53] <Trentor> wow i got my boot time down to 12ish seconds
[09:53] <kane77> Myrtti, thanks
[09:53] <fccf> Trentor: that is Fst
[09:53] <Heyhowareyou> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0
[09:54] <hoohaah> yay dcc exploits ftl
[09:54] <twopeak> fccf. I'll try this and play some more with the configuration, with a bit of luk it's what was missing.
[09:54] <kealc> lol
[09:54] <Myrtti> !troll | hoohaah
[09:54] <hoohaah> Myrtti: are you certain?
[09:54] <Myrtti> bah...
[09:54] <packetcase> Myrtti: It seems that I have a "broken" package. sun-java6-plugin
[09:54] <fccf> twopeak: it is what I usually do
[09:54] <Myrtti> hoohaah: if you see someone trolling, don't encourage them. that includes the exploit attempts
[09:55] <hoohaah> Myrtti: not unless they've been kick/banned first, right?
[09:55] <Myrtti> hoohaah: just don't pay *ANY* attention to them
[09:55] <flintwingel> !bluetooth
[09:55] <twopeak> fccf, thanks for your help; hopefully you won't see me back  ;-)
[09:56] <Trentor> fccf: hehehe, no grub menu, 2 ttys, no splash, boot sequence profiled
[09:56] <kealc> twopeak: everything worked?
[09:56] <hoohaah> Myrtti: kinda hard when the aftermath of op/deop ban takes up entire irssi window :)
[09:56] <Gargoyle> Very quickly, is there anything you need to do to a 9.04 install? Like nvidia/ati drivers? (I am a server guy normally, but just off to give my nephew a hand with his computer - I told hime to install ubuntu after "fixing" his virus riddled XP machine for the millionth time!)
[09:56] <hoohaah> Myrtti: but I understand what you mean
[09:56] <Myrtti> packetcase: did you get instructions on how to fix it?
[09:56] <packetcase> Myrtti: I reinstalled sun-java6-plugin and add/remove works. Should I post a bug or something?
[09:57] <fccf> Trentor: what did you do??
[09:57] <Myrtti> packetcase: search launchpad first for bug reports
[09:57] <packetcase> Myrtti: ok
[09:57] <Trentor> fccf: hehehe, no grub menu, 2 ttys, no splash, boot sequence profiled
[09:57] <twopeak> kealc; I'm instqlling the ubuntu extras and then I'll try everything i have tried before again... I hope that's the solution; otherwise I'll be back. thank upi
[09:57] <packetcase> Myrtti: What should i search for?
[09:58] <fccf> Trentor: Why?
[09:58] <Trentor> makes boot uber fast
[09:59] <Myrtti> packetcase: sun-java6-plugin :-)
[09:59] <sydneyguy> Hail all
[09:59] <Myrtti> and latest bugs on it
[09:59] <fccf> Trentor: now I see - but my machine doesn't reboot like EVER so I am not really worried about boot times
[10:00] <Trentor> hehe
[10:01] <Trentor> only thing that is slow is me getting used to typing with dvorak, lol
[10:02] <fccf> Trentor: QWERTY might be a wise choice
[10:02] <Trentor> lol
[10:02] <packetcase> Myrtti: Where can I find the log for add/remove, if there is any
[10:03] <Trentor> i heard that once you get used to dvorak it is faster
[10:03] <raylu> Trentor: barely
[10:03] <fccf> Trentor: I have been using a QWERTY kb for 20 years - not going to switch now
[10:03] <Slart> Trentor: or so says the people that have already wasted lots of time learning it =)
[10:04] <Flannel> Guys, take the keyboard layout discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[10:04] <Slart> Trentor: but this is offtopic
[10:04] <Trentor> lol
[10:04] <fccf> So... throw some more questions at me
[10:05] <Trentor> eh fine
[10:05] <mathijs175> is ist possible to use an msn account AND an irc on the same pc with pidgin?
[10:05] <Myrtti> mathijs175: why wouldn't it?
[10:06] <fccf> mathijs175: Conversation ... Add+
[10:06] <mathijs175> ok thanks
[10:07] <packetcase> Myrtti: The bug might be because something went wrong under the installation of sun-java6-plugin. When I tried again it installed successful. This might be caused by the userunfriendliness of add/remove.
[10:07] <Myrtti> packetcase: if you think it's a bug, then by all means, file it
[10:09] <packetcase> Myrtti: Not a bug, but add/remove should be changed so it don't stop working when a package is broken
[10:10] <greato> anyone help me in duel boot
[10:11] <hoohaah> in a crontab file, say I had multiple entries with @daily, or @weekly, are commands executed fifo?
[10:12] <hoohaah> or concurrently?
[10:14] <Slart> hoohaah: why not give it a try... use some sleep with some beep... I'll leave the implementation up to you
[10:15] <Serpardum> locate conio.h    returns nothign.  What am I doing wrong?  trying to find where conio.h is
[10:15] <Myrtti> packetcase: if it doesn't work as you expected it to work, then it's a bug ;-)
[10:15] <Boohbah> Serpardum: updatedb && locate conio.h
[10:15] <thom_> hellol, I need help please. How to unplug USB-Wireless Adapter from my machine safely? I have done disable 'enable wireless'. And if I unplugged it, my machine will hang.
[10:15] <Boohbah> Serpardum: sudo updatedb
[10:16] <Serpardum> sudo updatedb  (wait)
[10:16] <Serpardum> locate conio.h   (nothing)
[10:17] <Serpardum> bah, maybe I don't have one
[10:19] <IppatsuMan> Hi. On my machine an unknown process randomly eats so much CPU cycles and does so many I/O operations that it basically freezes the system, so I can't even login on a tty to use top and find the culprit. Any hint on how could I find the offending process? (I could just kill it using /etc/security/limits.conf , but I want to know which process is misbehaving)
[10:19] <greato> can any one help me in duel boot
[10:19] <packetcase> Myrtti: How do I post that kind of bugs?:-)
[10:19] <Gamarok__> !virtualbox
[10:21] <SOGJy> Does anyone know how to load the cwirc for X-chat? I am on X-chat now, but somehow I can't find the cwirc package
[10:22] <fumbles> butt load o' people here
[10:22] <Gamarok__> guys  can i use pidgin in kde
[10:22] <Ali_>  i'm thinking of converting to vbox from vmware
[10:22] <fumbles> Gamarok__: of course :)
[10:22] <Ali_>  is there anyone who has done this and is happy / unhappy?
[10:22] <Ali_> #
[10:22] <Myrtti> packetcase: as you would any other
[10:22] <midnajt> hey yall
[10:23] <Gamarok__> : ) thanks fumbles
[10:23] <fumbles>  /ignore -channels #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS is pretty useful for this channel
[10:23] <sydneyguy> Ali_: Why u wanna convert?
[10:24] <fumbles> lol 'konversation terminated'
[10:24] <kealc> SOGJy: check the repositories
[10:24] <kealc> it's in there
[10:24] <Ali_> sydneyguy, fed up with trying to get vmware working with pulseaudio or even getting sound to work!
[10:24] <kealc> Ali_: switch, you won't regret it
[10:24] <Niels_> Hi there!Has anyone of you experience with KVM on a Jaunty Server?
[10:25] <devel0> Ali_,
[10:25] <devel0> Ali_, virtualbox
[10:25] <devel0> dont even bother with vmware anymore
[10:25] <Ali_> kealc, ok :)
[10:25] <Ali_> hehehe
[10:25] <Ali_> ok devel0
[10:25] <Slart> hoohaah: did you find out if it was concurrent or FIFO?
[10:25] <Ali_> anyone with the opposite view here?
[10:25] <devel0> and btw
[10:25] <Niels_> I am facing actually an uncool problem, as my mouse and keyboard on the server side dont work properly, once I start the installation of winserver2008
[10:25] <Ali_> ie anyone believe that vmware is better [and has used both vmware and vbox]?
[10:25] <devel0> dont ghet the open source edition
[10:25] <devel0> get the other one
[10:26] <devel0> from the vbox website
[10:26] <Ali_> yeah cool devel0
[10:26] <Ali_> should i backup my vmw images?
[10:26] <Ali_> before opening them in vbox?
[10:27] <kz> hey guys, pidgin closes for me whenever i connect to msn
[10:27] <kz> whats up with that?
[10:27] <sydneyguy> hail again
[10:27] <sydneyguy> So .. vBox is better than VMware?
[10:28] <midnajt> does someone know why my wlan is slow :(
[10:31] <Slart> kz: try running pidgin from a terminal and see if you get an error message
[10:31] <kz> how would i do that?
[10:32] <Slart> midnajt: you expect us to be able to answer that? provide details.. information.. versions.. etc etc and we might just have a chance
[10:33] <mathijs175> rofl 5 words in the .odt format give a file of 45 pages in word :P
[10:33] <Slart> kz: close pidgin, if it's running.. open a terminal and run "pidgin".. then do whatever you did to make it crash and see what the terminal shows
[10:33] <Slart> mathijs175: it probably loaded it as text, no?
[10:34] <midnajt> Slart: it's Realtek RTL81878 WLAN usb
[10:34] <Slart> !details | midnajt
[10:34] <midnajt> it works fine and all but the strength don't go over 14%
[10:34] <greato> hello!
[10:34] <safruhani> hi, using 8.10, akregator crashes, error log is http://pastebin.com/f2f613f92 , except liferea,thunderbird,googlereader,rssowl,yassr,evolution, do u know a good rss client instead of akregator?
[10:34] <greato> can any one help me in os configuration
[10:35] <greato> please
[10:35] <sydneygu> re
[10:35] <mathijs175> its unreadeble slart, allmost everything is squares :P just have to remind myself to save them als .doc
[10:35] <methyl> whoami
[10:35] <methyl> err
[10:35] <Slart> mathijs175: mm.. sounds like it tried reading it as an text file.. you'd probably get the same kind of result trying to read some random binary file
[10:35] <methyl> hello rather
[10:36] <kz> i get  *** glibc detected *** pidgin: free(): invalid pointer: 0x0965e3c0 ***
[10:36] <hoohaah> methyl: clearly a typo..
[10:36] <methyl> indeed so it was
[10:36] <matrix> hell is there any nokia pc suite for linux
[10:36] <fccf> greato: ask your questions ... there are 1378 people in the room - someone should have an answer ... don't be mad if you don;t get a response
[10:36] <mathijs175> yea almost the same kind of letters, but i know how to stop happening that
[10:36] <Slart> kz: sounds like some programmer didn't do his job
[10:36] <midnajt> Slart: I'm sorry for wasting your time xD I know what's wrong
[10:36] <kz> yeah lol
[10:37] <greato> I need to setup my system such that whenever it starts it will ask me which OS i want to run Windows XP or Ubuntu
[10:37] <Slart> kz: you'd have to wait for an updated version.. that's probably all you can do at this time
[10:37] <kz> how come it works for other people but not me?
[10:37] <Slart> greato: grub will do that.. press esc when it boots up
[10:37] <fccf> dualboot! | greato
[10:37] <Slart> kz: might be something special with your setup.. hardware/software
[10:38] <kz> unlucky
[10:38] <Q_Continuum> Okay, I can't seem to find it - how do I enable the option to go to a login screen after coming back up from hibernate?
[10:39] <hoohaah> is there anyway i can check on my system for termcap/terminfo for a particular term (rxvt-unicode) ?
[10:40] <unhackmee> Hey
[10:40] <bhuey> Hello, I'm getting kernel crashes in the latest stable ubuntu
[10:41] <kz> so what are some other programs i could use for msn
[10:41] <kz> ?
[10:41] <bhuey> Is there a channel specifically for kernel bugs ?
[10:41] <matrix> hello is there any nokia pc suite for linux
[10:41] <mika__> kz, emese
[10:41] <hoohaah> matrix: no
[10:41] <mathijs175> you could use pidgin, or amsn
[10:41] <matrix> so how to update my phone
[10:41] <Myrtti> matrix: "take it to a store"
[10:41] <kz> ok ty
[10:41] <Myrtti> matrix: or install windows inside vmware and fiddle
[10:42] <hoohaah> matrix: or run nokia suite through wine
[10:42] <Myrtti> hoohaah: have you tried it?
[10:42] <kz> how do i download and install programs through windows?
[10:42] <hoohaah> Myrtti: not nokia. but sony ericsson
[10:42] <matrix> i hate wine it works slow
[10:43] <shihir> scrap your nokia
[10:43] <Myrtti> hoohaah: I wouldn't be suggesting that then, since you've not tried it
[10:43] <hoohaah> Myrtti: it's a suggestion that may or may not work
[10:44] <NorthByNorthWest> Anyone here who can help me with ubuntu server and openldap?
[10:44] <hoohaah> everything discussed in this channel is not official anyway, unless a dev wastes his/her time here
[10:44] <hoohaah> a mailing list is often better for those sorts of demands
[10:44] <Ney_Cumutzz> haaaaaaaaaaaaai
[10:45] <Ney_Cumutzz> leh kenal gak?
[10:45] <NorthByNorthWest> Ney_Cumutzz: are you klingon? ;)
[10:45] <Myrtti> !id | Ney_Cumutzz
[10:45] <Tyrath> is there any solution to the ubuntu key stick problem yet? I had the problem on Hardy, then through Intrepid and now again in Jaunty
[10:45] <kz> how do i download and install programs through windows?
[10:46] <Myrtti> kz: to your ubuntu?
[10:46] <kealc> you mean in wine?
[10:46] <Tyrath> Alt + F2 then kz: sudo apt-get install <name>
[10:46] <hoohaah> *for windows?
[10:46] <Tyrath> kz: Alt + F2 then type sudo apt-get install <name>
[10:46] <matrix> how do i install virtualbox on ubuntu
[10:47] <kealc> matrix: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[10:47] <nks_> Hello All, would anyone know anything about vboxne ?
[10:47] <fennng> hi, my ubuntu, please install vbox for me.
[10:47] <Tyrath> Any know how to fix the ubuntu key stick problem?
[10:47] <Myrtti> matrix: I've tried virtualbox to update nokia phones before, they don't work, but your mileage may vary
[10:47] <kz> ty
[10:47] <Gnea> !vbox
[10:48] <Myrtti> fennng: ?
[10:48] <Tyrath> !wine
[10:48] <Tyrath> ;)
[10:48] <fennng> Myrtti: know nothing about it.
[10:49] <kz> so whats the app name for amsn?
[10:49] <kealc> kz: look at your pm
[10:49] <matrix> Myrtti:what nokia do you use
[10:49] <Myrtti> matrix: N95
[10:49] <Gnea> !info amsn
[10:49] <mathijs175> kz: that is amsn
[10:49] <Gnea> kz: tried typing amsn?
[10:50] <kz> didnt work
[10:50] <kealc> kz: I've explained in your pm
[10:50] <mathijs175> worked for me yesterday
[10:50] <matrix> Myrtti:mattiksi> there is a bug filed in virtualbox that says that updating phones with pc-suite does not work, but that bug was fixed a while a ago
[10:50] <kz> thanks ill try it
[10:50] <Ney_Cumutzz> unieww_02
[10:50] <Gnea> kz: tried typing a and then pressing the tab key twice?
[10:50] <Myrtti> matrix: good to know
[10:50] <kz> nop
[10:51] <Gnea> so try it
[10:51] <kz> im trying to install by doing sudo apt-get install
[10:51] <kz> when i tab it just goes to highlight run with file
[10:51] <kealc> you can do it through synaptic like I said
[10:51] <Gnea> oh, I thought you were asking how do you run it from the commandline
[10:51] <Gnea> why didn't you just say so
[10:51] <kz> nah how to download it
[10:51] <kz> i did lol
[10:51] <Gnea> ...
[10:52] <Gnea> kz: not in proper english :)
[10:52] <kz> lol
[10:52] <kz> ok
[10:52] <Gnea> kz: yeah, just:  sudo apt-get install amsn
[10:52] <Gnea> that's it
[10:53] <geirha> kz: or open apt://amsn in firefox
[10:53] <kealc> Gnea: kz is having problems running as root
[10:53] <kz> yea
[10:53] <Gnea> kz: do you know your regular user password?
[10:53] <kz> yer
[10:53] <kz> lol
[10:53] <Gnea> so why won't sudo work? :)
[10:54] <midnajt> hey does Ubuntu have a Firewall
[10:54] <Gnea> !firewall | midnajt
[10:54] <kz> just closes and comes up with nothing
[10:54] <nks_> Would anyone happen know anything about vboxne ?
[10:54] <Myrtti> matrix: yes, but it's not enabled by default, because by default you don't have anything that would open up any ports
[10:54] <Gnea> kz: what, exactly, does it say? can you pastebin it?
[10:54] <midnajt> thank you checking now
[10:54] <kealc> midkniht: it uses iptables, all ports are closed on a default install, you can install firestarter or guarddog which act as a frontend for iptables
[10:54] <geirha> kz: in a terminal it's "sudo aptitude install amsn", but with Alt+F2, you need to use the graphical sudo, so replace sudo with gksudo
[10:55] <Myrtti> matrix: sorry
[10:55] <Myrtti> matrix: tabfail
[10:55] <Myrtti> midnajt: ^
[10:55] <kealc> I meant midnajt*
[10:55] <midnajt> xD
[10:55] <Gnea> kz: it's just better to type it in a terminal than with alt+f2 anyway
[10:55] <kz> ah ok
[10:56] <Gnea> if something goes wrong, you'll know about it right away
[10:57] <proklevty> hi world
[10:57] <proklevty> i'm new in irc
[10:57] <Gnea> 04:57 -!- There is no such nick world
[10:57] <proklevty> i know
[10:57] <Gnea> proklevty: are you new to ubuntu as well?
[10:57] <kz> doesnt come up with anything
[10:57] <Gnea> proklevty: a joke :)
[10:57] <proklevty> it's like CIAO
[10:58] <proklevty> new in ubuntu no
[10:58] <proklevty> but in irc!
[10:58] <geirha> kz: Run it from a terminal instead
[10:58] <Myrtti> !hi | proklevty
[10:58] <sydneyguy> Hail all
[10:58] <proklevty> i've a question
[10:58] <jj_> hey
[10:58] <Gnea> proklevty: okay, well you're in the official Ubuntu support forum, currently.
[10:59] <proklevty> it's normal thet there are no update in new 9.04?
[10:59] <jj_> no update what do you mean?
[10:59] <Gnea> proklevty: how long since last update?
[10:59] <ignusb> that's curious, didn't think I stayed logged in here.. hello
[10:59] <Aqa> any software to limit my internet speed? easy software i hate commands
[11:00] <proklevty> update for installed software
[11:00] <Gnea> proklevty: you know what? I don't see anything being updated either... and it's been over a week since i last did anything with it
[11:00] <sydneyguy> what is the different between ircii and irssi?
[11:00] <proklevty> i've installed ubuntu minimal without gnome
[11:00] <Gnea> sydneyguy: too much to discuss here :)
[11:01] <sydneyguy> hehehehehehe
[11:01] <sydneyguy> Where can I check that?
[11:01] <hoohaah> sydneyguy: raining?
[11:01] <jj_> proklevty: which window manager you using ?
[11:01] <proklevty> fluxbox
[11:01] <geirha> sydneyguy: ircii old, irssi new
[11:01] <hoohaah> ircii is fun to play with
[11:01] <Gnea> sydneyguy: I would just install both and see which one you like better
[11:01] <midnajt> Ubuntu: I'm getting addicted to you xD
[11:01] <jj_> proklevty: have you tried "apt-get update" ?
[11:02] <proklevty> tes
[11:02] <Aqa> midkniht,  :D
[11:02] <proklevty> yes
[11:02] <Gnea> jj_: that's the thing, i just did an update and then a dist-upgrade and nada, no updates
[11:02] <proklevty> update install -f
[11:02] <proklevty> etc
[11:02] <proklevty> but nothing
[11:03] <geirha> proklevty: sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[11:03] <Gnea> my sources.list -> http://pastebin.com/f23299aa0
[11:03] <proklevty> what is that?
[11:03] <jj_> proklevty: if all sources are enabled it should be updating, but i havent had an update for a few days now
[11:03] <geirha> proklevty: it will install updates
[11:04] <Niels_> how can I change the locale (de UTF-8) on a jaunty machine?
[11:04] <djdarkman> hello I fell really screwed by ATI, I have an Xpress 200M in my laptop, that is said to be only supported by the proprietory 9.3 driver, but that piece of crap won't install on the new xorg
[11:04] <patrik> Hi, I'm trying to compile kernel modules but get: "make: Nothing to be done for...", what is the correct way to compile external modules in Ubuntu?
[11:04] <geirha> proklevty: I don't think fluxbox comes with an update-manager, so you'll need to update manually. apt-get/aptitude update only downloads the list of packages, while upgrade installs updates
[11:04] <midnajt> hey how to find out wich ubuntu version I#m using
[11:04] <djdarkman> can someone suggest a feasible solution?
[11:05] <proklevty> of corse
[11:05] <proklevty> i don't wont desktop manager
[11:05]  * Helg look suspiciously at kz
[11:05] <proklevty> i ever use terminal
[11:05] <Niels_> so, how can I change the locale?
[11:06] <djdarkman> I can't even watch high resolution films on my laptop, because of this
[11:06] <trinity> i don't know
[11:06] <proklevty> but is suspicious thet there are no update for few weeks
[11:06]  * Gnea looks oddly at Helg 
[11:06] <jj_> djdarkman: i feel your pain i have a hd 3000 series and all drivers thus far are a bit buggy
[11:06] <fccf> djdarkman ... nvidia or bust
[11:07] <SPF> Niels_: dpkg-reconfigure locales and selecting the ones you want to be generated should work.
[11:07] <djdarkman> It's a laptop I can't change that damm videocard'
[11:07] <proklevty> identical beaviour whit full ubuntu
[11:07] <fccf> djdarkman: I feel your pain
[11:07] <proklevty> whit gnome and everything
[11:07] <Gnea> djdarkman: ATI is really buggery at times... have you checked the forums?
[11:07] <geirha> proklevty: It could be the mirror you are using hasn't got all the updates yet.
[11:07] <jj_> im just waiting for a decent driver,, for now mostly stay on the open source one
[11:08] <geirha> proklevty: Try switching to the main archive and see if you get any updates.
[11:08] <R4kk00n> djdarkman, i've tried to install xorg from intrepid — it did actually install, and loaded fglrx, but there was no direct rendering and and it hogged the cpu
[11:08] <proklevty> has you upgraded yet?
[11:08] <jj_> proklevty: try  "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[11:08] <djdarkman> ok, so that means that I can't use ubuntu I guess.... if it provides no way to downgrade xorg
[11:09] <proklevty> jj_: i do that every mourning
[11:09] <fennng> I startx from ssh, how can i exit X from ssh?
[11:09] <djdarkman> or a way to make the 9.3 driver not bitch because of my xorg version
[11:09] <Gnea> djdarkman: that doesn't make any sense, considering the fact that xorg forms the basis of the GUI in ubuntu
[11:09] <jj_> djdarkman: lol new xorg and ati dont get along just yet
[11:09] <R4kk00n> they say someone recompiled that previous xorg for jaunty
[11:09] <proklevty> geirha: i'm using italy mirror
[11:09] <jj_> proklevty: change mirrors to main
[11:10] <proklevty> where can i find?
[11:10] <djdarkman> Gnea:  so having my laptop run like crap makes more sense?
[11:10] <proklevty> on ubuntu site?
[11:10] <Niels_> SPF I am on de_DE.UTF-8 and I'd like to have an UK/US locale. If I say dpkg-reconfigure locale en_US-UTF.8 it doesn't workk
[11:10] <Gnea> djdarkman: well, I'd be inclined to look on google, but my web browser just took a nosedive during an upload
[11:10] <proklevty> into wiki?
[11:10] <djdarkman> I have a feeling that the new and the old xorg is compatible, but those morrons at ati didn't think of this
[11:11] <RProgrammer> I finally figured it out!
[11:11] <Gnea> djdarkman: but, if I was to look on google, I'd be searching for something like this:  ubuntu ati Xpress 200M
[11:11] <kealc> fennng: exit
[11:11] <geirha> proklevty: gksudo software-properties-gtk
[11:11] <Gnea> djdarkman: unfortunately, ATI does not follow the open source world as closely as Nvidia and Intel
[11:11] <RProgrammer> The secret to installing Ubuntu on a Mac without a CD Drive is this:
[11:11] <RProgrammer> It won't boot from a USB Drive, but it will boot from a FireWire drive.
[11:12] <proklevty> i haven't this command
[11:12] <fennng> kealc: where to input exit?
[11:12] <proklevty> i'm installed a very minimal system
[11:12] <fennng> the pty doesn't not take any command after entering X.
[11:13] <paulo>  i just this lan card dont know how to make it work in ubuntu
[11:13] <Gnea> paulo: what lan card?
[11:13] <paulo> its an intex cmi 8738-4ch
[11:14] <geirha> proklevty: Then you'll need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[11:14] <Gnea> using what interface?
[11:14] <paulo> pci
[11:14] <proklevty> thank you geirha!
[11:14] <Gnea> paulo: does it show up when you issue the lspci command?
[11:14] <mrwes> paulo, is the card in the computer now?
[11:14] <mrwes> :)
[11:14] <paulo> w8 i'll check
[11:14] <proklevty> now i try
[11:14] <geirha> proklevty: the main repository is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[11:15] <serega> hi there
[11:15] <jj_> proklevty: change all to "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" to use the main server
[11:15] <proklevty> ok
[11:15] <jj_> proklevty: in sources list
[11:15] <geirha> proklevty: Also, you could ask in #ubuntu-it (the italian support channel) if anyone else are missing updates from that mirror
[11:15] <proklevty> thank you all
[11:16] <proklevty> goodbye
[11:16] <proklevty> and sorry for my orrible english
[11:16] <jj_> proklevty: goodluck
[11:16] <paulo> yes it does 02:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[11:16] <jj_> proklevty: it wasnt horrible :)
[11:16] <proklevty> ops!!
[11:17] <mrwes> paulo, that's not your LAN card
[11:18] <paulo> lan crd is realtek ithink came with the board
[11:19] <paulo> the sorry bout i meant sound card
[11:19] <paulo> hehehe
[11:20] <paulo> the sound card  with a cd which has some makefiles in it dontknow what to do with them
[11:21] <jj_> paulo: is that a asus motherboard?
[11:21] <paulo> yup
[11:21] <paulo> on bord sound card got busted
[11:22] <jj_> paulo: had a friend had to install the sound with the drivers on the disk, but i think 9.04 fixed that
[11:22] <jj_> paulo: you trying to get the onboard working?
[11:23] <paulo> bord sound card is busted does not even work in win
[11:23] <jj_> ohhh
[11:23] <djdarkman> ok, question #2, how do I remove the driver that the ATI installer installed?
[11:23] <sandhya> Anybody know how to open JAR files without using the cli?
[11:23] <jj_> paulo: not good
[11:23] <paulo> sound card came with some c source code file dont know how to make them
[11:24] <jj_> djdarkman: you install it by enabling it in hardware drivers?
[11:24] <paulo> hard ware drivers dont detect my sound card
[11:25] <mudittuli> after an ubuntu update my screen resolution is reduced to 800x600, Ubuntu 8.04.2 , nvidia card
[11:25] <djdarkman> no, I installed it with the good old  ati installer, which is famous for not being able to remove it afterwards, and X is so stupid, that it selects it anyway
[11:25] <jj_> paulo: if its  messed up in xp seems like you have a bad motherboard
[11:25] <paulo> ugot any usefull links or tutorial on makefilesd
[11:25] <jj_> djdarkman: i learned my lesson and just use the tool with ubuntu haha :)
[11:26] <paulo> yah but just got a new sound card
[11:26] <mudittuli> ﻿after a ubuntu update my screen resolution is reduced to 800x600, Ubuntu 8.04.2 , nvidia card, I am not sure how to fix it
[11:26] <djdarkman> j'
[11:26] <mudittuli> I even installed the latest driver from nvidia site, but it didnt worked !
[11:27] <djdarkman> jj_: ubuntu doesn't give a damm about my videocard, at least this is what I learned since there is no easy solution on neighter sides
[11:27] <GW76> muditttuli: do you have a nvidia x server settings under system-> amdin?
[11:27] <mudittuli> GW76: yes, but it wont work !
[11:27] <paulo> just dont know how to make new soundcard work on ubuntu, it came with some c source code and somekind of make file just dont know waht to do with them
[11:27] <GW76> mudittuli: maybe you have a bad video card i don't know then..
[11:28] <GW76> paulo: can you bring up alsamixer in terminal?
[11:28] <djdarkman> I don't belive that xorg 1.6 is incompatible with older drivers
[11:28] <mudittuli> lol GW76, thanks anyway
[11:28] <djdarkman> it's just pure ignorance
[11:28] <GW76> mudittuli: np just trying to help
[11:29] <paulo> ok
[11:29] <GW76> paulo: does it show what soundcard you have or no?
[11:29] <paulo> ok alsa is up w8
[11:29] <jj_> djdarkman: xorg does try to improve, but like ati dont exactly do too well
[11:30] <paulo> it still states
[11:30] <paulo> intel
[11:30] <paulo> Intel ICH5
[11:30] <GW76> and thats the one ya have on ya mobo right??
[11:30] <djdarkman> jj_: but the problem is everyone forgets the user who may not understand this
[11:31] <jj_> djdarkman: true
[11:31] <jj_> lol
[11:31] <kz> how do i update ubuntu?
[11:31] <kealc> System -> Administration -> Update Manager
[11:31] <GW76> paulo: is the intel your old soundcard?
[11:32] <paulo> yup
[11:32] <kz> ty
[11:32] <Jenk> kz: use the update manager
[11:32] <mudittuli> ﻿after a ubuntu update my screen resolution is reduced to 800x600, Ubuntu 8.04.2 , nvidia card, I am not sure how to fix it
[11:32] <GW76> paulo: have you tried clicking on the sound icon and click on the volume control to see if ya card shows in there??
[11:32] <paulo> how can i switch it to my new sound card
[11:33] <kz> umm..how do i check disk space? lol
[11:33] <paulo> i think thats it thanks
[11:33] <GW76> paulo: if its in the drop box try selecting it
[11:33] <kz> like which drive is it on
[11:33] <SteveyDeve> df -h
[11:33] <SteveyDeve> kz: that was to you; df -h in a console
[11:33] <kz> ty
[11:34] <paulo> just have to test it
[11:34] <Jenk> can one create a custom install disk ?
[11:34] <kz> wtf
[11:34] <kz> its 2.3gb
[11:34] <lvlefisto> I want to run a script every five seconds, is there a command like cron that acomplish this?
[11:34] <kz> how did this happen
[11:34] <GW76> paulo: and best thing is too if it doesn't work or no sound ya might check the alsamixer see if it gives you the new card or not
[11:34] <skazi21101> can somebody help me with wifi on asus x51rl?? i inslalled proprietar driver but it doesn`t work
[11:35] <bullgard4> Does Empathy produce sounds on Empathy status events (for example the reception of a message), or not?
[11:35] <skazi21101> as instead not work wifi button
[11:35] <linxeh> lvlefisto: cron
[11:35] <kz> how do i delete unneeded partitions and give the space to my current partition?
[11:35] <linxeh> lvlefisto: or you can use watch - "watch -n 5 script" or something
[11:35] <Jenk> kz: use fdisk or gparted
[11:35] <bullgard4> kz: Use the GParted program.
[11:35] <lvlefisto> thanks linxeh
[11:36] <bazhang> !remaster | Jenk
[11:36] <kz> ok and how would i run gparted?
[11:36] <Jenk> bazhang:thanks
[11:36] <kealc> download it, burn it to cd
[11:37] <kealc> put it in, reboot
[11:37] <kiku87> hej
[11:37] <kz> ah
[11:37] <GW76> paulo: did that work or no?
[11:37] <kiku87> jest tu ktoś??
[11:37] <paulo> nope
[11:37] <bazhang> !pl
[11:37] <Niels_> how can I check if port 5900 is open on my system?
[11:37] <paulo> no sound still
[11:38] <kealc> kz: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/documentation.php  chose what you want to know how to do there
[11:38] <kz> so with this program would i be able to give my current partition more space?
[11:38] <bazhang> kiku87, #ubuntu-pl
[11:38] <kealc> yeah
[11:38] <skazi21101> help needed with wifi
[11:38] <GW76> paulo: did you do alsamixer again to see if ya new card came up?
[11:38] <Niels_> how can I check if port 5900 is open on my system?
[11:38] <kealc> kz: follow the instructions in http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm
[11:38] <paulo> old sound still by default
[11:38] <GW76> hmm.. just a sec paulo
[11:38] <paulo> dont know how to chage it
[11:38] <Niels_> its quite urgent and I hope that one of you will help
[11:39] <kealc> Niels_: system -> administration -> system tools -> port scan
[11:39] <Niels_> kealc, on the console, as I dont have a gui
[11:39] <kz> thanks kealc
[11:39] <kz> hi Niels_
[11:39] <stanis_sh> Hello. I have upgraded the video driver (nvidia) to 180.44 and compiz can't start. How can I understand, why? I am using Jaunty.
[11:39] <mudittuli> ﻿after a ubuntu update my screen resolution is reduced to 800x600, Ubuntu 8.04.2 , nvidia card, I am not sure how to fix it
[11:39] <GW76> paulo: maybe you have to disable your onbaord sound card
[11:40] <paulo> ok i'll try that
[11:40] <fccf> Niels_: netstat -ntap | grep vino
[11:40] <GW76> paulo: and only way i think you can do that is in bios
[11:40] <kealc> Niels_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202472 use nc as said there
[11:40] <paulo> ok be back l8
[11:41] <midnajt> ok Rhythmbox help needed
[11:41] <midnajt> how do I add last.fm stations
[11:42] <midnajt> or any songs from my last.fm profile
[11:42] <stanis_sh> midnajt - Library -> Last.fm -> Choose a station -> Press Add.
[11:42] <TheBrayn> howdy folks
[11:43] <fccf> TheBrayn has arrived --- now I don't have to think
[11:43] <Niels_> how can I open port 5900 on the console?
[11:43] <Niels_> pls help!
[11:43] <kz> ah shit...is there a way to change the temp folder that firefox would use? i cant download anything since theres no free disk space on it..
[11:43] <midnajt> stanis_sh: thank you I used to get Unable to connect error but now it worked
[11:43] <bazhang> kz watch the language please
[11:44] <linxeh> kz: in about:config probably
[11:44] <kz> ok
[11:44] <linxeh> kz: or theres a preferences thing for where it downloads files to by default -  think you can change it by bringing up the downloads window
[11:44] <linxeh> I dont use firefox any more
[11:44] <linxeh> :/
[11:44] <mrwes> GW76, or blacklist the module for the onboard sound card
[11:45] <GW76> what mrwes??
[11:45] <mrwes> GW76, oh...I was just thinking paulo could blacklist the driver/module for the onboard sound card
[11:45] <fccf> Niels_ relax dude ... port 5900 is usually used to connect to an already running xserver ... which you don't have ... you can however invoke X from ssh and do the same thing
[11:46] <GW76> mrwes i don't know anything bout that i just googled how to disable it and it says in a forum to use bios to disable it but he left already
[11:46] <Niels_> fccf, I have to connect to the server via vnc ion which KVM is running. nmap tells me that port 5900 is closed. So, I have to open that one somehow
[11:47] <hippo> midnajt: lastfm is not free anymore :(
[11:47] <linxeh> kz: you could delete something too ;-)
[11:47] <kz> yea, for some reason though the partition is 2.5gb
[11:47] <kz> and its full, dont have anything to delete
[11:47] <midnajt> hippo: how come man I didn't know that
[11:48] <farchumbre> does anyone is using several keyboard layouts in jaunty ubntu?
[11:48] <Niels_> fccf, have you got an idea, how I can open port 5900?
[11:48] <hippo> midnajt: it is still free in the US and in the UK ...
[11:49] <farchumbre> i have a bug with multi keyboard layouts,
[11:49] <stanis_sh> farchumbre: what bug?
[11:49] <midnajt> hippo: well for now I'm able to listen to tracks from Germany xD
[11:50] <stanis_sh> farchumbre: I am using colemak and russian.
[11:50] <kz> how do i see what drive letter a drive is?
[11:50] <Spek33rus> hi
[11:50] <bthornton> I just installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and now everything that uses Java is using an openjdk HOME path instead of Sun Java. Are there any easy ways to fix this?
[11:51] <farchumbre> stanis_sh: the indication of the layout on the panel becomes ??? when I use thinkfinger or an external usb keyboard
[11:51] <GW76> bthornton: do you have the icedtea plugin installed?
[11:51] <kz> how do i see what drive letter a drive is?
[11:51] <hippo> midnajt: Then be happy ! Maybe it's still free in Germany too. For me (Canada), it would cost $3/month now.
[11:51] <fccf> Niels_ slow down. firstly you will need to learn a few things .. you need to log onto port 5900 of the VM not the local machine ... if you are using NAT ... that should be as simple as accessing the port via the IP address of the VM not the localhost ... does that help
[11:51] <bthornton> GW76: I hope not; I have no desire to use it since the Sun plugin was working fine. Do you think ubuntu-restricted-extras pulled that in?
[11:52] <fccf> brb...
[11:52] <midnajt> hippo: damn man that's wack
[11:52] <kz> how do i see what drive letter a drive is?
[11:52] <Niels_> fccf, okay
[11:52] <midnajt> hippo: but affordable
[11:52] <stanis_sh> farchumbre: I guess, it becomes ??? when the layouts differs, right?
[11:52] <GW76> bthornton no it shouldn't not unless you selected it but you might wanna check to see if that plugin is installed in your add/remove cause that plugin is the one that uses openjdk
[11:52] <Kottizen> hi
[11:52] <fennng> hi too
[11:53] <fccf> ok Niels_ I am back ... this is some advanced stuff so bear with me
[11:53] <Niels_> I will try that, but if I have virtd running which automagically give an IP of a different net, which is usually 192.168.something I havent got the machine in my local subnet anymore
[11:53] <hippo> midnajt: actually, it's not free anymore, but in some countries, they consider that the publicity will pay enough, not here unfortunately.
[11:54] <ubuntistas> can anybody tell how can i install gtk ang glib with a command
[11:54] <Niels_> fccf, I have to bridge eth0 to virbr0 haven't I?
[11:54] <kz> how do i see what drive letter a drive is?
[11:54] <ubuntistas> because i cannot find the packages in deb
[11:54] <ubuntistas> ?
[11:54] <Niels_> kz, we dont have drive letters in the ix World
[11:55] <kz> i see
[11:55] <d00000de> actually we have niels
[11:55] <GW76> bthornton: did you check to see if that plugin was installed??
[11:55] <midnajt> hippo: con't you even listen to radio stations
[11:55] <kz> what would be the path for a drive called "mammoth"?
[11:55] <d00000de> but we combine letters with numbers
[11:55] <bthornton> GW76: Sure is
[11:55] <Niels_> kz, you may likely want to use mount to see, how your disk goz mounted
[11:55] <farchumbre> I remove some packages by mistake, and now update manager never finds any new updates, it has been a month that it always says, your system is up to date. does anyone know which files i may have deleted?
[11:55] <hippo> ubuntistas: these packages are normally the first installed as dependencies of many others.
[11:55] <kz> mount?
[11:55] <GW76> bthornton: i figured as much just remove it and ya be back to normal
[11:56] <Niels_> kz, open a terminal and type mount
[11:56] <ubuntistas> hippo so/
[11:56] <ubuntistas> ?
[11:56] <Niels_> fccf, are you still with me?
[11:56] <farchumbre> i think i removed kde
[11:56] <fccf> Niels_ I am not sure of the exact spects for bridging ... I use nat and havn't had any problems with my vboxes ... again I am using virtualbox but that shouldn't matter
[11:56] <bthornton> actually it looks like a bunch of openjdk-6-* packages have been installed, likely to support that plugin
[11:56] <mtinker1> Hello, I'm trying to switch from windows to ubuntu...i tried downloading wubi but i keep receiving the error message "tuple index out of range"...what does this mean?
[11:56] <bthornton> I don't care about the plugin really; I care that other Java apps (i.e. Eclipse) don't use a broken OpenJDK when Sun's Java is available
[11:56] <Niels_> fccf, can I run in VBox WinServer2008Standard?
[11:56] <ubuntistas> can anybody tell how can i install gtk ang glib with a command?
[11:57] <Niels_> ubuntistas, aptitude install gtk glib
[11:57] <kz> would it be /media/Massive or /dev/sdc1?
[11:57] <d00000de> i have an 9.04, just installed windows 64 codecs from medibuntu, but when i try to play any wmv file with movie player its tryin to install w32 ones... any advice?
[11:57] <Niels_> kz, /dev/sdc1
[11:57] <kz> ty
[11:57] <GW76> bthornton: yea i just knew it would be part of that plugin cause i've dealt with that plugin when trying to get rs to work
[11:57] <fccf> Niels_ ... you should have NP with Vbox on the windows side ... that should make things easier ... but it won't run a Kernal Virtual Machine
[11:57] <hippo> midnajt: we can still listen 30 songs/month for free ... as far as I know.
[11:58] <bthornton> GW76: Thanks for pointing mein the right direction. it's fixed
[11:58] <Niels_> fccf, will VBox make use of my Nehalems and would it make sense to use for the following idea VBox:
[11:58] <Niels_> 1 PDC Server (Win2008)
[11:58] <midnajt> hippo: ok so then it could be that it ain't free here to cause I#m at 5th song right now
[11:58] <GW76> bthorton: np :) glad to help
[11:58] <Niels_> 1Exchange Server 2007  // 1 Application Server (Win2008)
[11:59] <mtinker1> sorry to repeat, but is this the right place to ask about d/ling wubie, or is there a more appropriate place?
[11:59] <kealc> mtinker1: what did you need to know?
[11:59] <SnowKitty> hello
[11:59] <farchumbre> i have a problem with update manager, i can't update anymore
[11:59] <fccf> Niels_ ... vbox should take advantage of the multicore chips ... vmware might do it better ...  but you would need to run a hypervisor
[11:59] <kealc> mtinker1: you can get it from here: http://wubi.sourceforge.net
[12:00] <methylisocyanate> farchumbre, you can't update anymore?
[12:00] <Niels_> fccf, and VBox hasn't got a hypervisor?
[12:00] <hippo> midnajt: correct. My wife listens at work all the time and received an email today from lastfm. telling her that it was over for this month. They'll tell you.
[12:00] <Niels_> fccf, I'll be back in a few minutes, hope you'll be still there
[12:00] <fccf> no vbox will allow you to run all your servers, provided you have enough ram
[12:00] <fccf> I'll be her
[12:00] <fccf> e
[12:00] <midnajt> hippo: damn man thx for the warning
[12:00] <mtinker1> kealc, i'm able to start the download, but after a while, i get the error message "tuple index out of range"...what does this mean?
[12:01] <farchumbre> methylisocyanate: i removed some files or packages, and since then update manager always says your system is uptodate, for the last month
[12:01] <kz> is /dev/sdb1/ff temp a valid path?
[12:01] <bullgard4> Does Empathy produce sounds on Empathy status events (for example the reception of a message), or not?
[12:01] <ubuntistas> how can i install tgz files?
[12:01] <methylisocyanate> farchumbre, probably no new updates
[12:01] <kz> is "/dev/sdb1/ff temp" a valid path?
[12:01] <farchumbre> methylisocyanate:no new updates for a whole month?
[12:01] <methylisocyanate> haven't gotten any myself in a minute or so
[12:02] <farchumbre> before that i got updates every week at least
[12:02] <hippo> midnajt: I don't know about Germany.  Tut mir Leid :(
[12:02] <kz> is "/dev/sdb1/ff temp" a valid path?
[12:02] <midnajt> xD
[12:02] <Izlietne> yes
[12:02] <kz> do i need the "'s
[12:03] <midnajt> hippo: no problem any way there is still youtube
[12:03] <bullgard4> ubuntistas: You do not "install" normally tgz files in Ubuntu.
[12:03] <methylisocyanate> maybe there was some kind of space war, and they're busy fighting aliens instead of updating
[12:03] <ubuntistas> why?
[12:03] <ToStItOs> Usb PCI cards is there a certain place where they need to be inserted
[12:03] <methylisocyanate> i couldn't tell you
[12:03] <|ns|nR8> in a PCI slot ToStItOs
[12:04] <methylisocyanate> but i highly, highly doubt that removing some random packages would make the update manager just stop functioning
[12:04] <bullgard4> ubuntistas: If you are going to talk to me in this crowded channel, please prepend your message with my nick.
[12:04] <ubuntistas> ok tell me why?
[12:04] <ubuntistas> bullgard4
[12:04] <ToStItOs> yeah I have one but I wonder if it needs to go in another slot
[12:04] <kz> how do i make a new folder, lol
[12:04] <|ns|nR8> not working ToStItOs  ?
[12:05] <farchumbre> is anyone using openoffice 3.1?
[12:05] <Gamarok__> guys i recently installed kde on my ubuntu install and i want to get rid of gnome is that possible
[12:05] <ToStItOs> Its hard to say when I installed 8.10 and the card was inserted Ubuntu couldn't install
[12:05] <hippo> midnajt: http://mariacher.jmcc.at/last-fm-bald-nicht-mehr-frei/
[12:05] <farchumbre> how do i install kde ? i removed it by mistake
[12:06] <|ns|nR8> Gamarok__, try sudo apt-get remove gnome
[12:06] <fccf> farchumbre: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:06] <Gamarok__> !kde | farchumbre
[12:06] <farchumbre> fccf: thanks, is kde really necessary or I can work with gnome alone?
[12:06] <hippo> midnajt: Happy Germany :)
[12:07] <Nitrox22> i installed ubuntu 8.04 server in vmware and i set networking to bridged. Internet does not work in birdged networking. when i ping google.com it resolves the ip address but does not ping
[12:07] <fccf> farchumbre: I perfer Gnome ... it all depends on what you are trying to do
[12:07] <midnajt> hippo: xD damn I'm sorry man
[12:07] <methylisocyanate> farchumbre, you can work with neither if you wanted to
[12:07] <midnajt> hippo: thx for the link
[12:08] <farchumbre> methylisocyanate: where can i find information on the advantages of having kde?
[12:08] <methylisocyanate> farchumbre, it's all personal taste, there's no real right way to go about it
[12:08] <methylisocyanate> farchumbre, you toy with things and you find what you like best
[12:09] <ToStItOs> Could my PCI card be a problem
[12:09] <fccf> farchumbre: There is very little software that won't run in both KDE and Gnome ... pick what you like
[12:09] <ubuntistas> why my package installer doesn't display install package?
[12:10] <mtinker1> Hello, I'm trying to switch from windows to ubuntu...i tried downloading wubi but i keep receiving the error message "tuple index out of range"...what does this mean?
[12:10] <SnowKitty> i need help finding and installing an audacious plugin that lets me use the extra buttons on my keybaord to change tracks and stuff (the builtin plugin doesnt want to work with pausing and the previous track button)
[12:10] <ubuntistas> why my gdebi package installer doesn't display install package?
[12:11] <frankS2> Hi, I am looking at the LCD Weather Applett for KDE4, I wonder if it is possible to add more sources for it to get the weather info. I need Europeaan weather source :)
[12:11] <hippo> SnowKitty: that's not a plugin issue.
[12:11] <ToStItOs> Do Usb PCI cards need need linux drivers
[12:11] <SnowKitty> these keys worked fine in windows >.>
[12:11] <SnowKitty> and in that other media player
[12:12] <narbusm> is permited that some Makefile to have some extension...for example: Makefile.exte
[12:12] <SnowKitty> its a logitech keybaord
[12:12] <SnowKitty> *keyboard
[12:12] <try2free> halo
[12:13] <crazyboy1990> hi
[12:13] <nicodarious> wow.  9.04 sure is different from 8.10.  vim used to be installed by default and now i have to install it manually.  why is this?  isn't it better than regular vi?
[12:13] <geirha> ubuntistas: It's possibly needing dependancies or something like that. Doesn't it show a message informing you of what is needed to install the package?
[12:13] <Kottizen> bye :)
[12:13] <try2free> i am configure sudo nano /etc/fstab https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:14] <try2free> with //192.168.0.5/mic /media/remote cifs credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,_netdev,rw,uid=root,gid=mic 0 0
[12:14] <mohan_> hi.. unable to compile xjadeo
[12:14] <try2free> but result directory /media/remote is empty why? can someone give hints?
[12:14] <mohan_> have installed necessary ffmpeg dev package..
[12:15] <ToStItOs> Usb Pci cards are linux drivers required for install?
[12:15] <erUSUL> ToStItOs: nope
[12:15] <mohan_> http://pastebin.com/d458fbf6b
[12:15] <mohan_> compilation error in here : http://pastebin.com/d458fbf6b
[12:15] <midnajt> bye yall
[12:16] <mohan_> pls anybody guide me..
[12:16] <ubuntistas> it's deb geirha
[12:16] <kz> what can i delete from /tmp?
[12:16] <geirha> try2free: the option _netdev isn't listed in the manual page for mount.cifs
[12:16] <ToStItOs> erUSUL well I bought one installed it and when I tried to install 8.10 the installation stalled
[12:16] <try2free> sorry, i've got it wrong ip :D
[12:16] <try2free> now it's working
[12:16] <erUSUL> ToStItOs: and why do you think is becouse of that card ?
[12:17] <SnowKitty> @.<
[12:17] <ToStItOs> erUSUL when I removed the card 8.10 installed
[12:17] <try2free> The option _netdev is always recommended for cifs mounts in fstab. Option _netdev delays mounting until the network has been enabled.
[12:17] <SnowKitty> this is driving me nuts, i want to get these keys working in audacious
[12:17] <ubuntistas> anyone deb file fro audacious 2?
[12:17] <hippo> kz: you should be able to remove everything from /tmp
[12:17] <try2free> geirha: i got from -> http://www.swerdna.net.au/linhowtosambacifs.html
[12:17] <kz> sweet ty
[12:17] <mrwes> try2free, I agree, I use _netdev in my mount statement for cifs
[12:17] <erUSUL> ToStItOs: ok; i see. it was correctly placed on the slot? may have been a phisycal problem...
[12:17] <try2free> thanks guys
[12:18] <geirha> try2free: Ah, it's a general option, listed in man mount. I see
[12:18] <SnowKitty> they did nothing at all, then i went into preferences and enabled the hotkeys (or whatever its called) plugin and they kinda sorta work now
[12:18] <mohan_> plsssssssssssssssssss
[12:18] <SnowKitty> i can skip forward but not back and i cant pause
[12:18] <mohan_> bega helro..
[12:18] <erUSUL> ToStItOs: i can tell that i have one of those and has given me 0 problems. usb controllers are all standar and driven by a common driver (uhci ohci or ehci)
[12:18] <ToStItOs> erUSUL I inserted the card between my soundcard and my video card
[12:19] <ubuntistas> anyone deb file for audacious?
[12:19] <bazhang> !patience | mohan_
[12:19] <plastun> hello. how can i set python2.5 as default in my ubuntu, if i have both python2.5 and python2.6?
[12:19] <mohan_> ok..
[12:19] <ubuntistas> what's pidgin audacious
[12:19] <fccf> plastun - remove 2.6
[12:19] <kz> ok...now firefox closes whenever i start it up :S
[12:19] <SnowKitty> it lets you show off what song you are currently playing to people on your buddy list
[12:19] <ToStItOs> erUSUL I am guessing a hardware conflict
[12:19] <plastun> only one way?
[12:19] <plastun> what about update-alternatives?
[12:20] <hippo> SnowKitty: it's a little bit tricky ... but you could map the keycodes/key functions in Xmodmap and then use them under Linux.
[12:20] <Myrtti> plastun: should work
[12:20] <gordonjcp> bazhang: minor copy nit - that factoid has a run-on sentence.  There should be an "and" after the first comma, or a full stop and new sentence.
[12:20] <erUSUL> ToStItOs: maybe. did you installed it back once ubuntu was installed ?
[12:20] <SnowKitty> hippo: i dont want to remap anything :/ the keys worked fine in that media player thingy that ubuntu came with
[12:20] <ubuntistas> anyone deb file for audacious?
[12:20] <SnowKitty> i guess audacious just doesnt like my keybaord
[12:21] <ToStItOs> erUSUL not yet should play with it and find out where the problem is?
[12:21] <hippo> SnowKitty:  in that case, yes that's an audacious issue.
[12:21] <SnowKitty> eh, its not too important, i'm gonna get a new one when i can get some extra cash anyway, thisones all beatup
[12:21] <bazhang> ubuntistas, there is one in the repos, no need for external deb
[12:21] <kz> why would firefox just close whenever i start it up? i get "starting firefox" in the bottom panel, but then it just dissapears.
[12:21] <SnowKitty> im stuck on my old keyboard cause i kind of destroyed my other one by accident >.>
[12:21] <erUSUL> ToStItOs: well all i can say is that they just work (tm) if there is no hardware problem
[12:22] <ubuntistas> bazhang i want the new one?>
[12:22] <kz> why would firefox just close whenever i start it up? i get "starting firefox" in the bottom panel, but then it just dissapears.
[12:22] <Myrtti> !latest | ubuntistas
[12:22] <hoohaah> kz: try executing it from commandline to catch the stderr
[12:22] <bazhang> ubuntistas, then you are on your own; installing 3rd party stuff outside the repos is DIY
[12:23] <SnowKitty> well, thanks anyway guys. looks like ill just have to deal with this till i get a new keyboard
[12:23] <kavurt> my logitech quickcam for notebooks pro webcam shows black screen on 9.04
[12:23] <ToStItOs> erUSUL the first card I bought I was getting a resource conflict error in slot #2
[12:23] <hippo> SnowKitty: You should enable Gnome shortcuts in audacious.
[12:23] <erUSUL> ToStItOs: :|
[12:24] <hippo> SnowKitty: I just checked (but didn't try).
[12:24] <SnowKitty> hippo: where is that option?
[12:24] <kane77> what bad can happen if I install deb that is for 8.10 on 9.04?
[12:24] <erUSUL> ToStItOs: i am afraid i can not help further... it there are hardware conflicts your options are tweaking or updating the BIOS
[12:24] <hippo> Snowkitty: Enable Global Hotkeys and Gnome Shortcuts.
[12:24] <cee_imuddh> yuni
[12:25] <hippo> Snowkitty: Plugins/General ...
[12:25] <ToStItOs> erUSUL my bios maybe old this PC is from early 2000
[12:26] <SnowKitty> beavis christ
[12:26] <SnowKitty> it works!
[12:26] <SnowKitty> id have never thought of enabling the gnome shortcuts thing
[12:26] <SnowKitty> thanks
[12:26] <hippo> SnowKitty: cool ! :)
[12:26] <SnowKitty> erf
[12:27] <SnowKitty> still cant pause
[12:27] <SnowKitty> ah well
[12:27] <SnowKitty> previous track works now
[12:27] <SnowKitty> lol
[12:27] <ToStItOs> erUSUL I hate old dino boxes
[12:27] <SnowKitty> i can just alt tab and click pause
[12:27] <erUSUL> ToStItOs: no much you can do about it...
[12:28] <ToStItOs> erUSUL let me ask you this is how can you update the bios?
[12:28] <alexander> hei
[12:28] <hippo> SnowKitty: Does Pause work in other apps ?
[12:28] <SnowKitty> hippo: i figured out how to get subtunes in .sid files to work today
[12:28] <Rigongia> hi all
[12:28] <kavurt> is there anybody who can use Logitec Quickcam for Notebooks Pro on 9.04?
[12:28] <SnowKitty> hippo: lemme check, im sure it does
[12:28] <erUSUL> ToStItOs: depends on the manufacturer usually with a dos floppy disk. consult the mobo homepage
[12:28] <tripzero> anyone use gammu ?
[12:29] <ToStItOs> erUSUL that may be a problem this is a OEM Mobo
[12:29] <SnowKitty> hippo: yeah it works
[12:30] <ToStItOs> erUSUL i'll just see what I can do
[12:30] <erUSUL> ToStItOs: then i dunno. visit the oem website support page etc. google is your friend
[12:30] <SnowKitty> i like audacious cause im too used to winamp and it's kind of a winamp clone lol
[12:31] <Rigongia> ToStItOs, what's the problem ?
[12:31] <hippo> SnowKitty: In that case, there is nothing to do.
[12:31] <archman> How can I get info which exactly dvd rom I have in my laptop?
[12:31] <ToStItOs> Rigongia my usb pci card is conflict with my hardware
[12:32] <SnowKitty> hippo: yep, like i said i can deal with it till i get anew keyboard or figure out how to install this itouch plugin
[12:32] <Rigongia> ToStItOs, i hope you don't have an ASRock Mobo
[12:33] <ToStItOs> Rigongia I have a OEM Compaq Presario mobo
[12:33] <SnowKitty> i just realized something >.>
[12:33] <SnowKitty> ive been using ubuntu on this rig for a few days now
[12:34] <hippo> SnowKitty: don't know about that plugin ... but you can see in the list where audacious is looking for plugins.
[12:34] <SnowKitty> and havent really touched my windows install much XD
[12:34] <kealc> SnowKitty: :P
[12:34] <ToStItOs> Rigongia: Its ancient 2000
[12:34] <wereHamster> I did "update-rc.d -f [service] remove" but after a update apt-get added the service to the runlevels again and even started it. How can I tell apt-get to not mess with my runlevels?
[12:34] <Rigongia> pretty much like my old laptop (a Fujitsu-Siemens)
[12:34] <Rigongia> so ... what hardware is it conflicting with ?
[12:35] <Stowaway> yo
[12:35] <Rigongia> yo Stowaway
[12:35] <Stowaway> can someone tell me the svn command to copy an entire project that i dont have any files of it on my computer?
[12:35] <SnowKitty> hippo: it's on this page http://audacious-media-player.org/plugins
[12:35] <ToStItOs> Rigongia the first card I bought I was getting a resource error saying conflicting with PCI slot #2
[12:36] <Stowaway> i want to download everything at ; svn://anonsvn.mono-project.com/source/trunk/bitsharp
[12:36] <SnowKitty> the link there appears to be 404'd
[12:36] <SnowKitty> oh wait, theres 2 links
[12:36] <Rigongia> Stowaway, let me google a little and i'll come back with the answer
[12:36] <hoohaah> is there anyway to have virtual emulation load up a windows install on another partition?
[12:36] <Stowaway> i had a look at a article. i jsut couldnt get it towrk for some reason
[12:37] <geirha> Stowaway: svn co svn://anonsvn.mono-project.com/source/trunk/bitsharp
[12:37] <Stowaway> although admititly i could have looked a bit more.. i jsut thought someone would know it off heart
[12:37] <Stowaway> ahuh!
[12:37] <Stowaway> i was trying copy and cp
[12:37] <Stowaway> no co
[12:37] <Stowaway> thanks :P)
[12:37] <FloodBot3> Stowaway: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:37] <geirha> Stowaway: co is short for checkout
[12:38] <hippo> SnowKitty: I see. And you want to install it ?
[12:38] <SnowKitty> yeah, it's in a .tar.gz archive
[12:38] <SnowKitty> and in that archive i think is a usr folder
[12:38] <SnowKitty> i have no idea how to use that
[12:38] <SnowKitty> lol
[12:38] <djdarkman> hello, can someone tell me how can I cleanly downgrade xorg & friends to the intrepid version?
[12:38] <Stowaway> thanks for that! cya later
[12:39] <hippo> SnowKitty : first you have to download it.
[12:39] <SnowKitty> got it
[12:39] <ToStItOs> Rigongia should just insert the card in another slot?
[12:39] <SnowKitty> oh wait, found another one
[12:39] <hippo> SnowKitty : what is it, a .tgz file ?
[12:39] <ToStItOs> Oh wait that slot maybe bad
[12:40] <Rigongia> honestly i don't know, i was still trying to figure out what the cause could be
[12:40] <ToStItOs> I'll monkey with it and find out
[12:40] <SnowKitty> itouch-control-0.1.1.tar.gz
[12:40] <Rigongia> especially after a goddamn agp controller out of standard made my ubuntu tell me there were errors on the filesystem while there weren't :)
[12:41] <hippo> SnowKitty: Do you know how to extract it ? It's an archive.
[12:41] <SnowKitty> yeah i know how to extract it, i just dunno how to install whats in it
[12:42] <kealc> what are you trying to get?
[12:42] <hippo> SnowKitty: is there a .so file in the archive ?
[12:42] <hoohaah> SnowKitty: there's usually a README in the tarball
[12:42] <SnowKitty> yeah im reading it
[12:43] <SnowKitty> it wants me to do some stuff in the terminal
[12:43] <SnowKitty> ill try it in a sec
[12:43] <hippo> SnowKitty: copy the .so file into /usr/lib/audacious/General/
[12:43] <archman> is there any dual layer test in ubuntu?
[12:44] <Ludo6431> hello
[12:44] <Ludo6431> i compiled and installed the package mentioned here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/379536/comments/5 how can i uninstall it ?
[12:44] <hippo> SnowKitty: That's where audacious looks for plugins.
[12:44] <Rigongia> SnowKitty, is there a way to use some sort of global shortcuts with audacious ?
[12:45] <hippo> SnowKitty: Then restart audacious and see if you can select that plugin .
[12:45] <Rigongia> ok, nevermind SnowKitty ... i found it myself toying around :)
[12:45] <SnowKitty> ah!!!!
[12:45] <Batch> hello
[12:45] <hippo> Rigongia: Plugins/General and enable Global Hotkey and GNome Shortcuts
[12:45] <SnowKitty> no plugin needed
[12:45] <dakarn> anyone using tint2 panel?
[12:46] <SnowKitty> turns out
[12:46] <SnowKitty> i had to disable that hotkeys thing
[12:46] <Rigongia> thanks hippo
[12:46] <SnowKitty> and enable the gnome shortcuts thing
[12:46] <SnowKitty> i guess they were conflicting
[12:46] <hippo> SnowKitty: it makes sense.
[12:46] <Tux_Soul> Hi all
[12:46] <Rigongia> hi Tux
[12:46] <Tux_Soul> I've got a little problem with notebook remix on my eeepc 701
[12:47] <archman> How can I test if my drive is dual layer or single layer???
[12:47] <Tux_Soul> the battery applet is going crazy
[12:47] <SnowKitty> thanks for the help hippo
[12:47] <Batch> When i try to play any audio media, the sound come out but loops on the first second like a cd jumping continuously, Any ideas?
[12:48] <edogzilla> can someone plz help? all i wanna do is play a gmae and it wont work in wine and it wont work in virtualbox, should i take a sledgehammer to my comp now?
[12:48] <hippo> SnowKitty: you're welcome.
[12:48] <SnowKitty> wooot, i got my audio player all set up just how i like it :D
[12:48] <Batch> edogzilla: yes
[12:48] <GW76> lol @ SnowKitty
[12:48] <edogzilla> smash!!
[12:48] <SnowKitty> :P
[12:48] <SnowKitty> smaaaash!
[12:48] <Batch> SnowKitty: Did you have trouble with the sound/
[12:48] <Batch> ?*
[12:48] <SnowKitty> nope
[12:48] <edogzilla> how do u play games on linux?
[12:48] <Batch> :<
[12:48] <Batch> When i try to play any audio media, the sound come out but loops on the first second like a cd jumping continuously, Any ideas?
[12:48] <FloodBot3> Batch: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:48] <SnowKitty> my sound worked right off the bat o.o
[12:48] <edogzilla> windows games that is
[12:49] <SnowKitty> it's a soundblaster audigy SE
[12:49] <Dan> edogzilla try crossover games
[12:49] <Batch> I'm using Linux Mint 6, ubuntu/debian variant :>
[12:49] <edogzilla> dan: what is that?
[12:49] <GW76> edogzilla i think the only way is wine or vmware or virtualbox i don't think theres other ways
[12:49] <Dan> google it
[12:49] <Batch> I could stab eyes out right about now thats how frustrated i am, been up all night trying to fix it.
[12:50] <GW76> if it doesn't work then maybe it can't play and only plays under windows
[12:50] <SnowKitty> have you tried another soundcard?
[12:50] <SnowKitty> maybe its just a setting or driver issue somewhere
[12:50] <Batch> I'm thinking i modprobed the wrong driver
[12:50] <SnowKitty> my laptop didnt like ubuntu/xubuntu much cause the video was some cheesy intel chip
[12:51] <Batch> heh
[12:51] <SnowKitty> not laot you can do about hte video card in a laptop lol
[12:51] <SnowKitty> *alot
[12:51] <Batch> sounds like my wifi chip; broadcom :<
[12:51] <Batch> I'm using: 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[12:51] <edogzilla> apparently the person who tested it on winedb got it working, but his method of getting it to work makes no sense to me
[12:51] <hippo> ok kids .. back to work. Have fun !
[12:52] <Batch> :/
[12:52] <SnowKitty> later hippo
[12:52] <GW76> i would look to see if an onbaord to see if the video is a cheapo i don't think i would use an onboard video as i think thats what the intel chips for video cards are if im wrong then im wrong :S
[12:52] <SnowKitty> my laptop has an intel 830m video chip
[12:52] <Dan> my computer runs on an intel chip
[12:52] <Dan> its not good :/
[12:52]  * Batch isn't a hardware guy
[12:52] <Batch> :>
[12:52] <GW76> edogzilla: were you able to mount the game like an iso file?
[12:53] <Rigongia> the trouble with virtualbox might the video card
[12:53] <Rigongia> you could give a shot at vmware server (10 licenses for free upon a free registration on their website)
[12:53] <SnowKitty> it also has a nasty hardware bug (i looked it up, alot of people with this model of hp pavillion have the issues) that freezes up the trackpad/keyboard sometimes and will randomly kick the speakers back on when you have headphones in
[12:53] <edogzilla> gw76: i can launch the game but it wont let me log on or actually play
[12:53] <Rigongia> what gane edogzilla ?
[12:53] <Rigongia> *game
[12:53] <Batch> I will pay money to fix my problem :x
[12:53] <SnowKitty> i cant really complain much lol it was free
[12:53] <Dan> what game is it?
[12:53] <GW76> edogzilla: does the game so up in wine??
[12:53] <Batch> lulz
[12:53] <edogzilla> in vbox theres a graphics driver error and in wine i get an invalid install error
[12:54] <Batch> I will play in monopoly money :<
[12:54] <Batch> pay*
[12:54] <SnowKitty> Batch: do you liek mudkipz?
[12:54] <edogzilla> it has a bronze rating in wine
[12:54] <Dan> edogzilla what game is it?
[12:54] <Batch> SnowKitty: notrly.
[12:54] <SnowKitty> :/
[12:54] <edogzilla> entropia universe
[12:54] <Dan> hmm
[12:54] <Batch> SnowKitty: i herd u liek dem
[12:54] <Rigongia> well Batch ... euro bills actually look like monopoly money :)
[12:54] <Batch> SnowKitty: amirite
[12:54] <GW76> have no idea edogzilla :S
[12:54] <SnowKitty> ah luuuurve mudkipz
[12:54] <Batch> SnowKitty: orly
[12:54] <edogzilla> gw76: right me either
[12:54] <SnowKitty> ja
[12:54] <Batch> nowai
[12:55] <Batch> Rigongia: Euro's > AUD :<
[12:55] <GW76> i've installed window programs through wine but not a game yet
[12:55] <Rigongia> edogzilla, here's the answer you need :) http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9456
[12:55] <Da_Fra> Hi everybody!
[12:56] <Batch> Gawd this recursive sound would drive superman nuts.
[12:56] <edogzilla> argh! i just updated wine to the newest version and now i am getting a"winedevice has encountered a serious error and has to close" message
[12:56] <Batch> Kittens will be threatened! D:
[12:56] <Da_Fra> I need someone to help me...please! :)
[12:56] <Batch> Da_Fra: Uninstall right nao! :D
[12:56] <Dan> edogzilla try a program called playonlinux that might work
[12:57] <Da_Fra> :P
[12:57] <edogzilla> tried it
[12:57] <Batch> :>..
[12:57] <edogzilla> well...looked it up anyway
[12:57] <GW76> edogzila is your comp a 32 or 64 bit
[12:57] <Batch> oh law.
[12:57] <edogzilla> 32
[12:57] <Izlietne> is linux any good ?
[12:57] <Batch> Izlietne: no
[12:57] <GW76> it looks like it only works on 64 by winehq
[12:57] <Batch> :>
[12:58] <Izlietne> though so..
[12:58] <Dan> looks nice :P
[12:58] <Da_Fra> How can I translate this line in an /etc/fstab entry?: mount -t smbfs -o username=francesco,password=xxxx //140.xxx.1.x/public /home/fra/nas
[12:59] <geirha> Da_Fra: //140.xxx.1.x/public /home/fra/nas cifs username=francesco,password=xxxx 0 0
[12:59] <Dan> anyone know how to solve a 4 min boot time :/
[13:00] <Da_Fra> geirha: thank you!!!
[13:00] <Rigongia> first suggestions that come into my mind are : try to get rid of unused services, try to load less kernel modules
[13:00] <Dan> it was a fresh instal
 anyone know how to solve a 4 min boot time :/
[13:01] <Batch> LOL
[13:01] <Batch> LOLOLOLOL
[13:01] <FloodBot3> Batch: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:01] <Batch> Don't install windows m8
[13:01] <Dan> and basucally still is
[13:01] <GW76> bad bad batch lol you flooded lol
[13:01] <edogzilla> ok i'll quit griping. this is related but totally different issue...i had my comp built as a linux distro, so they never installed the drivers for the motherboard and network adapter cuz linux didnt need them to work. but i've since dual booted XP. i cant get online in XP without those drivers. how can i burn them to a cd from linux so i can install in XP?
[13:01] <Batch> :<
[13:01] <geirha> Dan: Don't reboot ;) But, what medium is it installed on?
[13:02] <Batch> When does this room slow down?
[13:02] <Rigongia> edogzilla : using brasero (under gnome) or k3b (under KDE)
[13:02] <Dan> hard drive
[13:02] <ziroday> edogzilla: brasero can burn data items
[13:02] <GW76> never lol
[13:02] <Batch> So i can get a breath in =D
[13:02] <bazhang> !ot > Batch
[13:02] <GW76> 0o
[13:02] <Da_Fra> can it be also //140.xxx.1.x/public /home/fra/nas cifs user,rw,username=francesco,password=xxxx 0 0?
[13:02] <weatherkid> Hey, how do you do a offline update of APT? I did a Wubi install of 8.04.2
[13:02] <GW76> uh oh ubottu is getting at batch lmao
[13:02] <edogzilla> ziroday: ok i'll try that
[13:02] <Batch> bazhang: I'm not going offtopic.
[13:02] <korean> hi, who can help me (sorry for my English). I have ubuntu 9.04, yasterday install KDE4, then the sound stopped working. sound heard only in kopete. How I can fix this?
[13:02] <Batch> m8
[13:02] <bazhang> Batch, chat elsewhere
[13:03] <Batch> I'm simply asking when it slows down so i can ask a legitimate question
[13:03] <geirha> Da_Fra: Yes, that will allow regular users to mount, but the user needs to have write access to the mount-point iirc
[13:03] <Batch> instead of being overtaken by "Y DUZNT IT WEK WEN I RM -RF /"
[13:03] <shadeslayer> is it possible to stop a upgrade to a new version of ubuntu and go back to the previous state??
[13:03] <Da_Fra> yep! this is exactly what I need! Thaks again..
[13:03] <Batch> ohnoes
[13:03] <Batch> Linux zealot D:
[13:04] <bazhang> Batch, stop it and stay on topic
[13:04] <tARrAScH> Hi, what was the name of the channel where you discuss compiz/Emerald? I thought of Emerald in particular
[13:04] <Batch> I am bazhang
[13:04] <Rigongia> who's NOT a linux zealot in here ? :D
[13:04] <Batch> When i try to play any audio media, the sound come out but loops on the first second like a cd jumping continuously, Any ideas?
[13:04] <weatherkid> Can I PM someone who can help me with an APT issue
[13:04] <Batch> There, Happy?
[13:04] <korean> shadeslayer, for me?
[13:04] <shadeslayer> korean: what??
[13:04] <Dan> also anyone know how to get a Datel Transfer kit working on 9.04?
[13:04] <user7> ljlfg
[13:05] <perlsyntax> Why do i get this error message in my emacs for?
[13:05] <korean> shadeslayer, nothing, sry...
[13:05] <Rigongia> shadeslayer : Korean says he's got an audio problem in KDE4
[13:05] <perlsyntax> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
[13:05] <perlsyntax> >>> /usr/share/emacs/22.2/etc/emacs.py:24: DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated
[13:05] <perlsyntax>   from sets import Set
[13:05]  * Batch patiently waits =/
[13:05] <shadeslayer> korean: no problems :)
[13:05] <perlsyntax> could this be a bug in emacs.
[13:05] <shadeslayer> Rigongia: !sound helps :)
[13:06] <shadeslayer> !sound > korean
[13:06] <GW76> i don't think anyone knows batch :S
[13:06] <perlsyntax> anyone knows?
[13:06] <korean> ubottu, щл
[13:06] <korean> ok
[13:06] <shadeslayer> korean: did you see that factoid??
[13:06] <perlsyntax> mmm very odd.
[13:06] <weatherkid> !apt > weatherkid
[13:06] <oossfx> oi
[13:06] <Rigongia> shadeslayer, what does "!sound" mean ?
[13:06] <korean> shadearg, one second
[13:06] <Rigongia> !sound
[13:06] <gnelisse> anyone in here using pam+ldap+cached credentials+pam_group in intreprid ?
[13:06] <perlsyntax> anyone use emacs?
[13:07] <tARrAScH> Hi, since when is Emerald unsupported/unmaintained?
[13:07] <Rigongia> ok, i got it shadeslayer :)
[13:07] <korean> shadeslayer, ubottu - thx for links ;-)
[13:07] <Rigongia> i do perlsyntax, but honestly never had your error
[13:07] <weatherkid> Hey, how do you do a offline update of APT? I did a Wubi install of 8.04.2
[13:07] <perlsyntax> what can i do about it
[13:07] <shadeslayer> !aptoncd | weatherkid
[13:07] <perlsyntax> Rigongia, you have 9.04
[13:08] <Rigongia> i have
[13:08] <perlsyntax> you have that prob
[13:08] <Da_Fra> I have another issue: alsamixer doesn't want to remember volume levels, and it always start with one of the main channel at 0 and turned off...
[13:08] <perlsyntax> coud it be a emacs bug for python 2.6.2
[13:08] <shadeslayer> can i stop a upgrade midway and go back to the previous version of ubuntu??
[13:08] <Rigongia> i'll install emacs (it isn't installed on this pc) then let you know :)
[13:09] <Rigongia> it's not a bug, it only complains that the named emacs module is using something old
[13:09] <patmat> one question, there is some webserver automatically starting when i boot ubuntu, but i want to use apache (XAMPP)
[13:09] <patmat> how can i stop it? i even dont want it to start automatically, which webserver it is anyway...
[13:09] <shadeslayer> patmat: see the startup apps
[13:09] <Da_Fra> shadeslayer, this is not a good idea...
[13:09] <disismt> Hi guys. Lately my Ubuntu 8.10 desktop has started freezing up most unexpectedly, the keyboard and mouse don't work, and there remains no option but to do a hard reboot. What is going on?
[13:09] <patmat> shadeslayer: where?
[13:10] <shadeslayer> Da_Fra: thats what im  thinking....is there any way to go back??
[13:10] <shadeslayer> patmat: im in KDE right now...lemme remeber
[13:10] <shadeslayer> !startup | patmat
[13:10] <patmat> ok im in Gnome, standard things
[13:10] <patmat> thank you ubottu
[13:10] <Da_Fra> disismt, have you got an nvidia graphic card?
[13:10] <disismt> Da_Fra: no!!
[13:11] <patmat> on the startup services i can't find a webserver, but there is one?
[13:12] <patmat> when i connect to http://localhost/ theres a "Its working!"
[13:12] <Rigongia> it's apache most probably
[13:13] <patmat> i tried close it with /etc/init.d/apache2 stop  it isnt running
[13:14] <geirha> sudo netstat -nap | grep ':80\>'
[13:14] <ewsubach> are there any programs to securely delete already deleted files?
[13:14] <geirha> patmat: ^  that should show you which process is listening on port 80
[13:14] <shadeslayer> patmat: killall processname
[13:14] <patmat> sudo netstat -nap | grep ':80\>'
[13:14] <patmat> [sudo] password for patmat:
[13:14] <patmat> tcp6       0      0 :::80                   :::*                    LISTEN      2906/apache2
[13:14] <disismt> I also have similiar problem. I want to stop NetworkManager and BluetoothApplet from starting, but it always starts. ... I tried renaming the relevant script in rc5.d to start witk K but no effect :(
[13:14] <shadeslayer> !paste | patmat
[13:15] <patmat> ah already know it, sorry
[13:15] <geirha> patmat: apache2 it is
[13:15] <patmat> so i should stop it with /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[13:15] <shadeslayer> anyone have a idea on my problem?? how do i stop a upgrade midway and go back to the the previous version of ubuntu??
[13:16] <patmat>  /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[13:16] <patmat>  * Stopping web server apache2                                                                                                                apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[13:16] <patmat>                                                                                                                                        [ OK ]
[13:16] <FloodBot3> patmat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:16] <ewsubach> patmat: try apache2ctl stop
[13:16] <tunisiano> je veux savoir comment activer le cube sur le 9.04
[13:17] <dakarn> !ubuntu-fr tunisiano
[13:17] <dakarn> !ubuntu-fr | tunisiano
[13:17] <patmat> bash: /etc/init.d/apache2ctl: No such file or directory
[13:17] <geirha> !fr | tunisiano
[13:17] <dakarn> thanks i'm having a bad day today
[13:17] <korean> shadeslayer, ubottu - run the sound, it works, did not have ffmpeg, and something else, strange that they were not, his hands are not removed ... Thanks!
[13:17] <anzan> botsnack
[13:18] <shadeslayer> korean: ahem...ubottu is a bot :)
[13:18] <ewsubach> patmat: try without /etc/init.d....just apache2ctl stop
[13:18] <patmat> httpd (pid 2906?) not running
[13:18] <korean> shadeslayer, it's fun, I'm bot. Tnx for help.
[13:18] <Rigongia> lunch time, cya all
[13:18] <ewsubach> patmat: then it is stopped. was that what you wanted?
[13:18] <zhoujingrui> my ubuntu no sound at all
[13:18] <shadeslayer> !sound > zhoujingrui
[13:19] <patmat> ewsubach ok i try something, now i should start xampp
[13:19] <GW76> zhoujiringrui: are you using onboard sound?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> i could really use some help on my problem :)
[13:19] <geirha> patmat: You already stopped it when you did /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[13:19] <patmat> ewsubach: another webserver still runs
[13:19] <korean> shadeslayer, you have a lot of help to all.
[13:19] <devel0> shadeslayer, whats your problem ?
[13:19] <patmat> is the xampp message, so he cant start apache
[13:19] <korean> bye all. Tnx again.
[13:20] <mmm4m5m> question please: hibernate and suspend with ubuntu 8.04 - is there a solution? I search but did not found. Some time ago I try to fix solution for ubuntu 7.10 - no luck. Any advices? Or to leave it as is (not working)?
[13:20] <zhoujingrui> yes
[13:20] <shadeslayer> devel0: i need to stop a upgrade and go back to the previous version of ubuntu
[13:20] <devel0> oh
[13:20] <devel0> there would only be the unorthodox way of doing that
[13:20] <devel0> is there a particular reason of wanting to do that ?
[13:21] <patmat> thank you! tried that as root, it works!
[13:21] <shadeslayer> devel0: i installed 8.10 on this PC and then started the update to 9.04 without remembering that the intel card wont work properly
[13:21] <ewsubach> patmat: the thing I said worked, or did you mean someone else?
[13:21] <patmat> apache2ctl stop was it
[13:22] <patmat> i think it was.. did that as root
[13:22] <patmat> so what was the problem then? i already stopped apache2
[13:22] <devel0> shadeslayer, what intel card ?
[13:22] <patmat> just want to know what it was
[13:22] <devel0> shadeslayer, be specific
[13:22] <shadeslayer> devel0: the ones which do not work on jaunty
[13:22] <ewsubach> patmat: cool. yeah, apache has changed a lot. the proper way of doing it is through apache2ctl, which works with httpd
[13:22] <weatherkid> Hey, how do you do a apt-get update offline?
[13:23] <shadeslayer> weatherkid: you cant
[13:23] <dakarn> !sound > dakarn
[13:23] <devel0> shadeslayer, what part of be specific did you not get ? Do you honestly consider that an answer? lspci | grep Intel
[13:23] <ewsubach> patmat: if it says it is not running when you try that, then it has stopped, probably because someone or something else stopped it
[13:24] <mmm4m5m> anyone about hibernate and suspend with ubuntu 8.04 - it is not working. Is there a easy/hard fix available?
[13:24] <weatherkid> shadeslayer: are you sure there isn't a trick that will do it?
[13:24] <patmat> ewsubach but good to now, much thanks, you helped me alot! id never found that out
[13:25] <ewsubach> patmat: no problem, I'm glad it helped. :)
[13:25] <Pranka> mmm4m5m:  i am currently having the same problem with 9.04, though i haven't really looked for a solution
[13:25] <shadeslayer> devel0: one moment..on a call
[13:25] <yoni> weatherkid, If you have a local copy of the sources on your local network I guess you can, else.. you would have to be online.. :\
[13:25] <ewsubach> anyone know if there is a program to overwrite the data of already deleted files?
[13:26] <Trentor> Wierd Question: When an update fails in ubuntu and it gives you that error saying to run something like 'sudo dkpg -a --config', what is that command that fixes the corruption in the middle of an update?
[13:26] <shadeslayer> devel0: intel GM965
[13:27] <mmm4m5m> Pranka: I am not expert, but searched... from time to time people say "it is fixed in gutsy/hardy/intrepid/jaunty"... for my hardware (few cases) - it never work. There could be solution in google, but I skip all that is looks very complicated or uncomplete description. Anyway, thanks.
[13:27] <Xcell> ewsubach-  you mean...undelete?
[13:27] <shadeslayer> devel0: or more info 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[13:27] <patmat> ewsubach: so it shouldnt startup automatically anymore? that would be the second problem :P it isnt in startup
[13:27] <ewsubach> ewsubach: no I don't want to recover deleted files, I want to get rid of the remnances of them
[13:28] <Xcell> fslint
[13:28] <|_SstyL> .|.<(ù_Ú)>.|.Hi all.|.<(ù_Ú)>.|.
[13:28] <shadeslayer> devel0: its a known issue...just dont want to leave this PC with problems....first time ubuntu user
[13:28] <|_SstyL> .|.<(ù_Ú)>.|.I am spain :D.|.<(ù_Ú)>.|.
[13:28] <shadeslayer> !sp | |_SstyL
[13:29] <|_SstyL> .|.<(ù_Ú)>.|.Hahaha yea.|.<(ù_Ú)>.|.
[13:29] <|_SstyL> .|.<(ù_Ú)>.|.where u from guys?.|.<(ù_Ú)>.|.
[13:29]  * mmm4m5m |_SstyL better "spammer" :)
[13:29] <bazhang> |_SstyL, #ubuntu-es
[13:29] <|_SstyL> .|.<(ù_Ú)>.|.=S?.|.<(ù_Ú)>.|.
[13:29] <|_SstyL> .|.<(ù_Ú)>.|.where is ubuntu?.|.<(ù_Ú)>.|.
[13:29] <Trentor> Stop spamming
[13:29] <|_SstyL> .|.<(ù_Ú)>.|.i want speak english only.|.<(ù_Ú)>.|.
[13:29] <shadeslayer> |_SstyL: stop those silly messages
[13:29] <ewsubach> patmat: go to system -> preferences -> startup applications and make sure a checkbox is next to apache
[13:30] <bazhang> |_SstyL, remove the extra bits from your responses
[13:30] <|_SstyL> better now?
[13:30] <devel0> shadeslayer, The problem is that the card does not work at all (as in doesnt start a GUI for you) or the resolution doesnt work properly ?
[13:30] <shadeslayer> devel0: more of a compiz issue
[13:30] <ewsubach> patmat: oops, not startup apps I meant to say system -> administration -> services
[13:31] <|_SstyL> ·<{devel0}>· where u from?
[13:31]  * mmm4m5m :))
[13:31] <bazhang> !ot > |_SstyL
[13:31] <patmat> already checked that, i look again
[13:31] <jpph_> hello Guys, I would like to know what is the tool / command to see file that have been accessed in real time ?
[13:31] <|_SstyL> yes :S
[13:31] <|_SstyL> i see
[13:31] <patmat> it is checked!
[13:31] <patmat> so i have to turn it off ewsubach
[13:32] <ewsubach> patmat: do you want it to start at startup or not?
[13:32] <patmat> ewsubach: so i think it is in the services per default. isnt that like.. erm... CATASTROPHIC?
[13:32] <mmm4m5m> jpph_: maybe lsof will help
[13:32] <patmat> now i dont hehe so i know what to do
[13:32] <ewsubach> patmat: then just unchec the box and then it won't auto start
[13:32] <bullgard4> Does Empathy produce sounds on Empathy status events (for example the reception of a message), or not?
[13:32] <mudittuli> ﻿after a ubuntu update my screen resolution is reduced to 800x600, Ubuntu 8.04.2 , nvidia card, I am not sure how to fix it
[13:33] <patmat> ewsubach but again, it starts automatically, isnt that catastrophic? per default put on an apache per default
[13:33] <mudittuli> can anyone help me ?
[13:33] <ghoulhaha> who can help me with the ati display driver ???
[13:33] <ewsubach> patmat: apache always starts by default when you install it. it assumes it is going to be used all the time i guess. nothing to worry about
[13:33] <kronix> Display Driver Man?
[13:34] <Xcell> kronix
[13:34] <ghoulhaha> sir?
[13:34] <Xcell> lol
[13:34] <patmat> ewsubach ok :) so thanks for you help, i'm new to Ubuntu
[13:34] <mudittuli> something to do with display, here too !
[13:34] <patmat> everything so far works great :))
[13:34] <ewsubach> patmat: no problem
[13:34] <mudittuli> but i have the nvidia card !
[13:34] <patmat> i just wondered why there isnt a xampp package??
[13:34] <ghoulhaha> what ?
[13:34] <ewsubach> patmat: i don't know what xampp even is, so I can't help you there
[13:34] <patmat> ohh really? you should check it out :)
[13:34] <ghoulhaha> i am new to ubuntu
[13:35] <patmat> it nice for local web developping, easy to set up
[13:35] <devel0> shadeslayer, please describe the problem in a little more detail. you mean you cant get a composite manager to start ?
[13:35] <mmm4m5m> mudittuli: I upGraded from 7.10 to 8.04.2 (yesterday). I used nvidia from nvidia web site. Now I using the ubuntu driver. It works. It is nvidia 9600gt
[13:35] <jpph_> mmm4m5m, thanks, I have read the man page I would like to have the current position accessed in a file, is this possbile ?
[13:36] <ewsubach> patmat: there are xampp packages, but not in the ubuntu repository
[13:36] <shadeslayer> devel0: yes..since the card is blacklisted
[13:36] <mudittuli> mmm4m5m: ur nvidia driver version ?
[13:36] <userfromhell> Ahem.
[13:37] <mmm4m5m> jpph_: I do not know (not expert)
[13:37] <ewsubach> patmat: i just googled it and a few sites came up with download and install instructions...the only bad part is you have to compile from source
[13:37] <jpph_> mmm4m5m, k thank you anyway ! I will search further in google ...
[13:37] <jpph_> mmm4m5m, have a nice day
[13:37] <mudittuli> mmm4m5m: what is ur nvidia driver vierson ?
[13:37] <ghoulhaha> how to use this irc ?
[13:38] <mmm4m5m> mudittuli: how to check that :)
[13:38] <mudittuli> mmm4m5m: u installed one from the nvidia site ?
[13:38] <frog_> hi, could someone help me http://pastebin.com/m2b335533
[13:39] <mmm4m5m> mudittuli: I told, I used nvidia with gutsy. with hardy it is working after I remove the nvidia driver (and also I fix my xorg.conf)
[13:39] <wizo> hey, how can i see the chmod in numeric when i do ls -l ?
[13:39] <spudCakePie> try ls -lH
[13:39] <spudCakePie> H for human readable
[13:40] <bazhang> !nickspam > Batch
[13:40] <wizo> hmm it's still giving me -rw-r--r--
[13:40] <wizo> i want it like 755 etc
[13:40] <spudCakePie> thats what you want, isnt it?
[13:40] <spudCakePie> oh
[13:40] <spudCakePie> i read "how come i see"
[13:40] <Batch> !niggerspam > bazhang
[13:40] <wizo> sorry if I wasnt clear
[13:40] <mudittuli> ubottu: SHUT up !
[13:41] <lindia> Entrez le texte ici...
[13:41] <spudCakePie> mudittuli: dont you realise its a bot?
[13:41] <mudittuli> spudCakePie: i know !
[13:41] <spudCakePie> ubottu: your momma
[13:41] <Pranka> lol
[13:41] <ewsubach> frog: I don't think java6-sdk is a package
[13:42] <Rigongia> hi all
[13:43] <Pranka> frog_: why don't you search for java6 and download the correct packages?
[13:43] <frog_> ok, i have sun-java6-jdk. but when i try to install toma, i get  the erro: no classpath defined
[13:44] <spudCakePie> you need to set the classpath in your env vars
[13:44] <mudittuli> ﻿after a ubuntu update my screen resolution is reduced to 800x600, Ubuntu 8.04.2 , nvidia card, I am not sure how to fix it
[13:45] <root> care roman ?
[13:45] <frog_> spudCakePie: which is the path?
[13:45] <spudCakePie> root: no! we meet again!
[13:45] <mudittuli> help please !
[13:45] <GW76> ah mudittuli still have that problem lol
[13:45] <spudCakePie> frog_: i dont know
[13:45] <spudCakePie> sorry
[13:45] <mudittuli> GW76:  i am back after a nap !
[13:45] <spudCakePie> mudittuli: has your xorg.conf changed?
[13:45] <jms32> How to know where my pockets a lost?
[13:45] <GW76> mudittuli: lmao
[13:46] <Xcell> mudittuli-  do you have   nvidia-settings   installed?
[13:46] <Rigongia> jms32 : you could try a traceroute
[13:46] <Dillizar> mudittuli, the name of your nvidia ?
[13:46] <mudittuli> spudCakePie: yes it was been changed again and again !
[13:46] <GW76> mudittuli: now you getting more ppl responded lmao
[13:47] <Dillizar> lol
[13:47] <mudittuli> Xcell: nvidia 8400 gms
[13:47] <Dillizar> GW76, i have nvidia thats why
[13:47] <GW76> Dillizar: so do i lmao
[13:47] <Dillizar> mudittuli, so what drivers are you using
[13:47] <GW76> and i asked the same question as Xcell lol
[13:47] <jms32> Rigongia: And what i will know with it?
[13:47] <GW76> bout the nvidia x server settings lol
[13:47] <lulzSauce_> Hello, I have a Radeon X600 graphics card. How do I install the proprietary drivers for this device?
[13:48] <mudittuli> i installed the latest one >> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.51-pkg1
[13:48] <Gamarok__> !info koffice
[13:48] <Dillizar> lulzSauce_, go to administrator and then hardware drivers
[13:48] <chris_> bjr
[13:48] <Rigongia> jms32 : where your packets get lost
[13:48] <GW76> lulzSauce click on system admin hardware devices
[13:48] <lulzSauce_> In previous versions of ubuntu I could use the hardware drivers, but now it no longer is an option there.
[13:48] <GW76> opr drivers lol
[13:48] <chris_> fr
[13:48] <Rigongia> but the right command is tracepath, sorry :)
[13:48] <chris_> #fr
[13:48] <Dillizar> lulzSauce_, apt-get update first
[13:48] <Rigongia> try for example tracepath www.google.com
[13:48] <Myrtti> !fr | chris_
[13:49] <mudittuli> brb, with chatzilla
[13:49] <jms32> Rigongia: http://paste.org.ru/?qcqa84
[13:49] <shadeslayer> any idea how to stop the upgrade and go back??
[13:49] <spudCakePie> ubottu for president!
[13:49] <Dillizar> chris_, salut
[13:49] <jms32> Rigongia: And where my pockets lost?
[13:49] <lulzSauce_> Dillizar: unfortunately it is still not an option, I just tried updating like you said.
[13:49] <mudittuli_> yes i am back !
[13:49] <shadeslayer> jms32: lol pockets :D
[13:49] <GW76> shadesslayer why not just install the previous ubuntu you had from the cd??
[13:49] <mudittuli_> i am usung this NVIDIA driver >> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.51-pkg1
[13:49] <jms32> shadeslayer: What s wrong?
[13:49] <Dillizar> lulzSauce_, hmm 9.04?
[13:49] <ManDay> Can someone recomment me an extended PDF vierwer which has some enhanced capabilites, as regards configuration etc.. Example: I want to set per-document settings with which I view a document in a certain manner (for instance: View at 110%, each page centered)
[13:50] <shadeslayer> GW76: bah...i set up medibuntu and everything etc..too much of a hassle
[13:50] <lulzSauce_> Dillizar: If you know the filename, I think I could install it manually.
[13:50]  * shadeslayer luaghs silently
[13:50] <lulzSauce_> Dillizar: yeah, 9.04, installed yesterday
[13:50] <Rigongia> aft
[13:50] <shadeslayer> *laughs
[13:50] <Rigongia> afk for a few minutes
[13:50] <jms32> shadeslayer:  ?
[13:50] <shadeslayer> jms32: s/pockets/packets
[13:50] <mudittuli_> helloz, who ever was helping me with NVIDIA driver
[13:50] <mudittuli_> !
[13:50] <Dillizar> lulzSauce_, i have the same problem but after reboot after the update and the upgrade i installed the drivers some times ubuntu need just a lil bit more time :P
[13:50] <GW76> shadesslayer: well maybe ya sol then :S
[13:51] <shadeslayer> GW76: sorry??
[13:51] <Rigongia> jms32 : you don't seem to be losing packets, how do you know you're losing them ?
[13:51] <jms32> Rigongia: 1 sec
[13:51] <Dillizar> lulzSauce_, try rebooting and come back we will try smt else :P
[13:51] <GW76> shadeslayer: sol meaning you're screwed probably
[13:51] <shadeslayer> GW76: :(
[13:52] <jms32> Rigongia: http://paste.org.ru/?ryrn7s
[13:52] <jms32> shadeslayer: pockets != packets? 0_o
[13:52] <lulzSauce_> Dillizar: OK, I'm installing xorg-driver-fglx, I think this is the right one.
[13:52] <shadeslayer> GW76: can i download a 8.10 alternate CD and run the update from there to get 8.10 back and without losing my data??
[13:53] <Dillizar> lulzSauce_, when you activate the effects does it start to install the drivers??
[13:53] <shadeslayer> jms32: really?? i thought you meant packets...my bad then
[13:53] <GW76> shadesslayer: i don't know im just stating since if ya had whatever version of whatever maybe you had it on a cd :S im new to linux so im just trying to help as what i know
[13:53] <jms32> shadeslayer: sorry, I bad know English, so where is humor and about that you speaking?
[13:53] <lulzSauce_> Dillizar: No. My effects work without the 3d driver. However, to use programs like blender, google earth, and 3d games I need the driver. I've been through quite a bit of working with this in the past.
[13:53] <shadeslayer> GW76: ok...
[13:54] <jms32> Rigongia: 34% of lost...
[13:54] <shadeslayer> jms32: im totally confused...lets leave it
[13:54] <Dillizar> lulzSauce_, lol you must have 3d for compiz
[13:54] <lulzSauce_> Dillizar: The default drivers work fine with compiz
[13:54] <jms32> shadeslayer: leave == stop? Ok
[13:54] <Dillizar> lulzSauce_,  it seems like you have installed the drivers when you were installing the ubuntu
[13:54] <Dillizar> lulzSauce_, i know it does this with intel 950 chipset
[13:55] <lulzSauce_> Dillizar: When I put in a totally clean, un-used ubuntu live CD, the compiz drivers work fine.
[13:55] <Dillizar> lulzSauce_, so i think you are ok
[13:55] <lulzSauce_> Oh
[13:55] <shadeslayer> Dillizar: read the release notes for problems with the intel driver :)
[13:55] <Dillizar> lulzSauce_, i think you have the drivers
[13:55] <lulzSauce_> It's a different story with ATi cards then it is with intel
[13:55] <_user_> i installed metsaploit on ubuntu how to add shortcut to the gnome menu to run console plz ?
[13:56] <R4kk00n> ManDay, i've got an impression the default evince always saves your preferences for each document you view with it
[13:56] <ghost_lines> hi all, how do I install x server on ubuntu 9.04 server?
[13:56] <Dillizar> _user_, ok apt-get install ccsm
[13:56] <lulzSauce_> No, you see with ATi cards there are the free 3d drivers, and the propietary 3d drivers, and while the free ones work, to properly run most 3rd-party 3D programs you need the propietary ones.
[13:56] <shadeslayer> _user_: use alt+F2 and then type gnome-terminal to run a terminal
[13:56] <lulzSauce_> Thanks though
[13:56] <lulzSauce_> restarting
[13:56] <shadeslayer> ghost_lines: #ubuntu-server
[13:56] <_user_> Dillizar, no i mean metasploit consoel ./msfconsole
[13:57] <ManDay> R4kk00n, it does. However I'm in need for more settings. For instance I want to customize keys for shortcuts. and i when i turn pages i want to see the center of the page per default, not the first line
[13:57] <Dillizar> _user_, it will appear :) i think :D or just alt+f2 and run it
[13:57] <ManDay> which evince doesnt allow
[13:57] <_user_> Dillizar, ~/rubygems-0.9.0/metasploit/ ./msfconsole
[13:57] <Aliasa> how can i hack the pc of the university?! :D
[13:58] <Dillizar> !hack
[13:58] <R4kk00n> yes, it goes gnome/macos way...
[13:58] <Pranka> lol Aliasa
[13:58] <Dillizar> Aliasa, linux is not just for hacking
[13:58] <Aliasa> :p
[13:58] <spudCakePie> Aliasa: you need a hack saw.
[13:58] <Dillizar> Aliasa, i can tell you but only how to get inside and still info from it
[13:58] <Rigongia> it is if your system administator has a bachelor's degree in geology :D
[13:58] <Dillizar> Aliasa, you need the IP
[13:59] <Aliasa> look i have a friend ,and hi say to me that has hacke the pc of the school,and he loof the notes
[13:59] <Phibes> can anyone tell me why, after a mount point change and (I used chmod etc...) permissions change (to me, good) I still can't let transmission write on the partition?
[13:59] <Aliasa> yes i want to know it Dillizar :D
[13:59] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[13:59] <Boohbah> Aliasa: if you have to ask here, you don't have the necessary skills
[13:59] <Pranka> afternoon, wildc4rd
[13:59] <Dillizar> lol Boohbah yes
[14:00] <Pranka> i agree Boohbah
[14:00] <Aliasa> haha
[14:00] <Aliasa> maby
[14:00] <Dillizar> Aliasa, you are from bulgaria
[14:00] <Myrtti> Aliasa: this channel is not for discussion about illegal topics, which hacking the university pc is. Move along
[14:00] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[14:00] <Aliasa> no albania
[14:00] <Myrtti> NEXT
[14:00] <Aliasa> okok
[14:01] <spudCakePie> i remember when i totally pwned this kid who was asking how to hack
[14:01] <Myrtti> !offtopic | spudCakePie
[14:01] <spudCakePie> got him to dd his main partition with /dev/urandom
[14:01] <Rigongia> i LoL'ed when i read the "hacker" page of Uncyclopedia
[14:01] <Myrtti> spudCakePie: which part of the "This is the channel for Ubuntu support questions" didn't you get?
[14:02] <spudCakePie> sorry
[14:02] <fx3> Hi, Package clamav is outdated, newest version is 0.95.1, the current version installed with apt is 0.94.2, what should I do ?
[14:02] <Myrtti> !latest | fx3
[14:02] <earthen> hey guys I'm trying to install nvidia drivers I did  "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" command but it gives me a list telling me I should select one to install but i don't know witch
[14:02] <Myrtti> fx3: most probably, you'll be fine with the bit older version.
[14:02] <spudCakePie> whats on the list?
[14:03] <spudCakePie> and what card do you have
[14:03] <ManDay> R4kk00n, it does. However I'm in need for more settings. For instance I want to customize keys for shortcuts. and i when i turn pages i want to see the center of the page per default, not the first line
[14:03] <fx3> Myrtti: but I want to update the package for everyone to use
[14:03] <earthen> nvidia-glx-96 96.43.10-0ubuntu1, -71 ,-180 , -173
[14:04] <JGodboutQt> Is there a program for Ubuntu which lists all open windows, and allows you to modify basic properties of them, like size, position, title, etc.?
[14:04] <earthen> I could pastbin it if that would be better
[14:04] <betz> Hi! Can anyone tell me how to enable multiple desktops in ubuntu 8.10?
[14:04] <Pranka> JGodboutQt: you mean like *box window managers? i doubt it.
[14:04] <JGodboutQt> What do you mean by *box?
[14:04] <R4kk00n> ManDay, i've never tried anything else. there is xpdf at least.
[14:05] <Pranka> JGodboutQt: fluxbox,openbox,blackbox
[14:05] <R4kk00n> but is seemed even more basic
[14:05] <ManDay> if im  not mistaaken  xpdf offers far less than evnice
[14:05] <unhackmee> starbox
[14:07] <earthen> spudCakePie, sorry didn't see you second post I have a M15X NVIDIA 8600M-GT 256MB
[14:07] <R4kk00n> you may want to look at that kde document viewer, what's-its-name
[14:07] <Rigongia> okular ?
[14:07] <earthen> spudCakePie, M15X is just the alienware model number
[14:07] <spudCakePie> i see
[14:08] <earthen> spudCakePie, the list gives me 4 options
[14:08] <betz> Nobody knows how to enable multiple workspaces in kde?
[14:08] <earthen> spudCakePie, I was thinking i could just choose the one with the higest number but i'm not sure
[14:09] <spudCakePie> that would be my first thought
[14:09] <Vivatma> did ubuntu's apt get aria2 as backend downloader ??
[14:09] <spudCakePie> what did your extensive googling tell you?
[14:09] <earthen> spudCakePie,  so I would choose the "nvidia-glx-180 180.44-0ubuntu1" option
[14:09] <Xcell> betz-  system settings
[14:10] <earthen> spudCakePie, I din't find much at all thats why i came here
[14:10] <betz> Xcell: could you be more precise? In system -> preferences i dont see anything about this
[14:10] <spudCakePie> with the lack of any idea, im gonna say use the highest number...
[14:10] <technique> hey peoples... some help if possible. Im running ubuntu 8.10 and my network manager icon at the top has dissapeard and i cant connect via wifi can any1 help please??????
[14:10] <spudCakePie> but if you do and your machien starts to smoke, its not my fault, KK?
[14:11] <Xcell> betz-  just right click the desktop icon on the panel and select pager options
[14:11] <vikingsraven> hi , im a complete noobie any help me with nvidia and ubuntu 9.04
[14:11] <Pranka> technique: Alt+f2 then type nm-applet
[14:11] <earthen> spudCakePie, I did a upgrade to jaunty and now my video doesn't work
[14:11] <Pranka> technique: that's if you're using Gnome.
[14:11] <technique> yes im using gnome
[14:11] <Rigongia> vikingsraven : can you specify what problem you are having ?
[14:11] <JGodboutQt> Okay this is just embarrassing. I have a child window (output) which belongs to QDevelop, and somehow I moved it off screen, so now I can't see it at all. If I close it, or restart my computer, then when I open QDevelop again, and open the output window, it makes it off screen again.
[14:11] <spudCakePie> is it me or are graphics card drivers 50% of the problem here?
[14:11] <JGodboutQt> Any ideas? rofl
[14:12] <lulzSauce> OK, so it didn't work. I'm left using the default drivers which cannot work properly with blender. Great.
[14:12] <technique> Man you guys and or gals are legends thanks heaps
[14:12] <lulzSauce> Does anyone know how to install the proper 3D driver for an ATi Radeon X600 card?
[14:13] <Rigongia> well spud ... in the past i personally had my share of troubles with ATI, so i can see why most of the problems are video card drivers problems :P
[14:13] <R4kk00n> JGodboutQt, alt+f7 and then move it with the keyboard arrows?
[14:13] <vikingsraven> it wont let me change the resolution ive tried running envyng but it come up with an error 2 secs and ill get the error
[14:13] <lulzSauce> My 3D drivers worked fine before 9.04! I don't want to have to downgrade!
[14:13] <mmm4m5m> JGodboutQt: if gnome... try Alt-Tab, focus the window, then Alt+F7 and move using arrows (keyboard)
[14:13] <JGodboutQt> Haha cheera R4kk00n
[14:13] <vikingsraven> EnvyNG has detected that the headers for your kernel are missing and cannot be installed is what it comes up with
[14:13] <JGodboutQt> I didn't know that alt f7 shrotcut
[14:13] <lulzSauce> I found this: My opinion is: dont't upgrade to Ubuntu 9.04 if you have ATI video card"
[14:13] <_user_> how to add ./app that is a terminal app to gnome menu
[14:13] <earthen> spudCakePie,  just so you get the full I've pasted my terminal output here http://paste.ubuntu.com/184299/
[14:14] <Rigongia> vikingsraven, can you post the output of uname -r ?
[14:14] <vikingsraven> ok ill have a go
[14:15] <vikingsraven> all ive got come up is 2.6.27-11-generic
[14:15] <erUSUL> vikingsraven: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[14:15] <vikingsraven> thanks
[14:16] <lulzSauce> do ATi drivers work at all with ubuntu 9.04?
[14:16] <vikingsraven> ok it says that package 2.6.27-1-generics os not available but is refered to by another package
[14:17] <Pranka> lulzSauce: im using ati and so far, it's working great for me.
[14:17] <lulzSauce> what if I tried installing the xorg-driver-fglrx for intrepid? Would that work?
[14:17] <lulzSauce> Pranka: But can you run any serious 3D software like blender?
[14:17] <Dam0> lulzSauce: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[14:17] <Pranka> i dont think so, never tried it
[14:18] <lulzSauce> Dam0: There are no instructions for 9.04 there.
[14:18] <Pranka> Brb, switching to irssi.
[14:18] <lulzSauce> Dam0: Before 9.04 I clicked a button and it worked.
[14:18] <Rigongia> vikingsraven : i'm gonna search for the package you need and post the link to download it
[14:19] <_user_> how to create link of terminal that open in a certain path for example ~/music ?
[14:19] <mmm4m5m> _user_: 'man gnome-terminal', search for 'working-directory'
[14:20] <lulzSauce> I mean, this kinda sucks. All I use ubuntu for is blender...
[14:20] <R4kk00n> lulzSauce, they do work, they just may not support your video card
[14:20] <Jack8899> What music player can burn audio cds?
[14:20] <lulzSauce> R4kk00n: Why was my video card supported before 9.04?
[14:20] <Dam0> lulzSauce>: it still is
[14:21] <lulzSauce> Dam0: Except installing xorg-driver-fglrx, the only driver available for my card, crashes X
[14:21] <lulzSauce> other people say the card is not supported at all:
[14:21] <Dam0> ok
[14:21] <lulzSauce> "My opinion is: dont't upgrade to Ubuntu 9.04 if you have ATI video card""
[14:21] <lulzSauce> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1165522
[14:22] <lulzSauce> "After upgrading to Ubuntu 9.04 I've found that there is no Fglrx driver for ATI X600 card."
[14:22] <lulzSauce> " I upgraded to 904 yesterday and found the missing support for Radeon X600 too."
[14:23] <lulzSauce> is there a way to install the drivers that went with 8.10 and worked?
[14:24] <mmm4m5m> lulzSauce: download deb package, dbl click and check what does it say (dependences, etc.). (or do temp change in your sources.list)
[14:24] <R4kk00n> lulzSauce, it is supported by catalyst 9.3, and that doesn't work with jaunty's xserver-xorg-core
[14:24] <Xcell> You can't use any 9.04 fglrx driver with your desktop because AMD/ATI has dropped fglrx support for your card. You will have to remove any fglrx driver and use the open source driver instead
[14:25] <Trentor> What is the official ubuntu offtopic channel called?
[14:25] <lulzSauce> Xcell: So, would using an older fglrx driver work?
[14:25] <R4kk00n> i'm trying to build xorg-core 1.5.2 from intrepid
[14:26] <Xcell> all i can say.. is try @ your own risk
[14:26] <lulzSauce> Why didn't they keep the option in hardware drivers to install the older driver? I mean, I think the majority of ATi users cannot do anything remotely graphically intense with 9.04...
[14:26] <Xcell> is it a lappy?
[14:26] <lulzSauce> nah, desktop
[14:27] <lulzSauce> anyway, I'll try installing the older driver
[14:27] <Xcell> did you try envyng and experiment with versions?
[14:27] <lulzSauce> Xcell, hold on, I'm trying this and rebooting.
[14:27] <Xcell> ok
[14:27] <dimension128> After upgrading to 2.6.28-12 from the backports, My computer locks up. I have to use 2.6.28-11 if I want to use my computer for any length of time. Could anyone assist me in pinpointing the cause, so I can file a useful bug report please. I have no idea where to start with this.
[14:28] <sebsebseb> dimension128: check out the release notes
[14:29] <mmm4m5m> dimension128: As far I know, no but reports about "backports" repository. Backports means - no support.
[14:29] <sebsebseb> dimension128: by the sounds of it your getting that issue,  well you done Ext4?
[14:29] <sebsebseb> !notes |  dimension128
[14:29] <dimension128> yes I am using ext4
[14:29] <sebsebseb> dimension128: ok  then you got the issue mentioned in the notes
[14:29] <sebsebseb> dimension128: by the sounds of it
[14:29] <dimension128> ok
[14:30] <lulzSauce> Xcell: OK, it kinda worked. Except I get a segmentation fault when running 3d programs like Compiz and Blender.
[14:31] <lulzSauce> http://pastie.org/494936
[14:31] <lulzSauce> blender output
[14:31] <Xcell> ya.. kinda sucks
[14:31] <hoelk> hi sorry for this; quick pulseaudio support question: im running jaunty an whenever i kill pulseaudio it automatically restarts.. any way to prevent that?
[14:31] <lulzSauce> Xcell: Here's compiz
[14:31] <lulzSauce> http://pastie.org/494937
[14:32] <hoelk> so its more like a generall jaunty question i guess
[14:32] <lulzSauce> "Checking for Xgl: not present."
[14:32] <Xcell> wow
[14:33] <lulzSauce> Do you think I should go back to 8.10? That kind of sucks...
[14:33] <Xcell> if i had that card.. id experiment.. but i dont
[14:33] <Xcell> ya
[14:33] <lulzSauce> OK.
[14:33] <Xcell> back to 8.10
[14:33] <lulzSauce> do you think this problem will be fixed sometime?
[14:34] <Xcell> check that out
[14:34] <lulzSauce> I'm reporting a bug
[14:34] <Xcell> ya
[14:35] <Xcell> but remember.. what they said about legacy drivers
[14:35] <lulzSauce> huh?
[14:36] <Xcell> 2 be honest.. id purchase a reasonable card from newegg.com
[14:36] <Xcell> nvidia
[14:37] <lulzSauce> k
[14:37] <lulzSauce> that doesn't help me with my 3D demonstration in 3 hours though, lol... I guess I'll have to use blender in windows
[14:37] <lulzSauce> thanks though.
[14:38] <Xcell> any time
[14:38] <lulzSauce> *demonstration, not demon tration
[14:38] <lulzSauce> lol
[14:38] <Xcell> lol
[14:38] <zeeble> Random question. Where does ubuntu takes the X config info from? my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file has nothing in it
[14:38] <erUSUL> zeeble: newer xorg releases autedetect most of the things they need
[14:39] <erUSUL> zeeble: if xorg.conf is present it is followed though
[14:39] <zeeble> erUSUL: ah ok, tx
[14:39] <dimension128> sebsebseb: Ok I think i may know whats going on. I am using ext4 on all of my partitions, and I have been trying to run apt-mirror. I bet apt-mirror is deleting quite a few files periodically. Thank you.
[14:40] <sebsebseb> dimension128: what's apt-mirror?
[14:40] <wizo> hey, how can i remove lets say apache2 along with all the config files and do a fresh installation?
[14:40] <wizo> cause i've modified alot of files in my apache and i want a new fresh installation
[14:40] <shadeslayer> hi i need apt to connect directly to the internet but its using a proxy right now (of my uni)...im at home and have a direct connection
[14:40] <sebsebseb> wizo: sudo apt-get purge programname and delete any relivant hidden .folders in home.   or folders for the program in other ones
[14:40] <dimension128> sebsebseb: A program that uses wget to mirror a ubuntu repo.
[14:41] <wizo> so i have to manually delete them?
[14:41] <munster> I am new to ubuntu and am building a new pc witht he Intel i7 920.  Is there a particular version I need to load?  The one I am downloading now has amd at the end of it
[14:41] <sebsebseb> dimension128: ah ok
[14:41] <wizo> for example /etc/apache2 ?
[14:41] <sebsebseb> munster: the 64bit versions are called  amd in the iso name
[14:41] <sebsebseb> munster: since AMD invented 64bit  originalley or whatever
[14:41] <shadeslayer> munster: amd means a 64 bit version best for RAM configs greater than 3 GB
[14:41] <jayadeva> I am using Ubuntu 9.04, sound is not enabled [or I don't know it].  can anybody help me?
[14:41] <dimension128> sebsebseb: I mirror the ubuntu repos that I use often, so i dont have to re-download everything for each computer. And I can install any package i want while on the go, without a connection :-)
[14:41] <shadeslayer> !sound > jayadeva
[14:41] <munster> ok, so no worries then.  thanks seb
[14:42] <sebsebseb> shadeslayer: oh?
[14:42] <sebsebseb> munster: no probs
[14:42] <wizo> so is there anyway for apt-get to remove apache2 along with all it's config files etc?
[14:42] <jayadeva> ubottu, how to do it?
[14:42] <erUSUL> munster: the amd64 refers to the fact that is a 64 bit version
[14:42] <erUSUL> munster: intel cpu are compatible eith amd's 64 bit mode
[14:42] <shadeslayer> sebsebseb: yep...32 bits dont recognise greater than 3 GB RAM
[14:43] <sebsebseb> shadeslayer: they say need at least 4GB RAM  for 64bit really,  but saying AMD ISO's is  for 4GB RAM or more hum
[14:43] <munster> thanks all, just making sure.  so, i just burn the image to a dvd and make it bootable , insert it intot he new build and start the install?
[14:43] <erUSUL> munster: yes
[14:43] <shadeslayer> sebsebseb: yes.if you have RAM >= 4GB 64 bit is required to detect it
[14:44] <munster> Oh, i put 6G of ddr3 in this baby, using the arstechnica hot rod build
[14:44] <sebsebseb> shadeslayer: yeah 4GB RAM or more need 64bit I know that, but you made it sound like the  64bitAMDname  ISO  woudn't really work on  less than  4GB RAM  computer that has 64bit proccessor
[14:44] <shadeslayer> how do i tell apt not to use a proxy
[14:44] <Rigongia> wizo : sudo apt-get purge apache2
[14:44] <munster> c an scale to 24G if I could ever find a reason
[14:44] <shadeslayer> sebsebseb: really?? i didnt mean to :P
[14:44] <dimension128> wizo: you may want to look at the man page for dpkg I believe the purge option is what you want.
[14:45] <sebsebseb> shadeslayer: ok
[14:45] <sysadmin> anyone experiencing problems with firefox lately? mine gets stuck, screen goes gray, and stops responding. What can I do? On processes, it says uninterruptible and cannot run until I restart the system
[14:46] <sebsebseb> sysadmin: yep I get problems with the Firefox Ubuntu has
[14:46] <navatwo> hey
[14:46] <shadeslayer> how do i reset apt.config
[14:46] <sebsebseb> sysadmin: what can you do, well try other browsers,  or    get a version directly from Mozilla and try that
[14:46] <navatwo> so, I seem to have locked out one of my workspaces.. I can't switch over to it. Not sure why, any one have any ideas?
[14:46] <sebsebseb> !browsers |  sysadmin
[14:47] <sysadmin> sebsebseb, I got used to Firefox, so there is no fix yet?
[14:47] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[14:47] <sebsebseb> sysadmin: well you can  try a new profile.  by moving or deleting .mozilla from home. that's hidden folder
[14:47] <thiebaude1> :)
[14:48] <sebsebseb> sysadmin: try running that Firefox with not many tabs open and like no Flash, and it would probably be ok
[14:48] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: ive tired everything there to set apt to use no proxy..it still does
[14:48] <sebsebseb> thiebaude1: why?
[14:48] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: due to which im stuck without updates and packages :(
[14:48] <navatwo> I'm locked out of one of my workspaces, I can move applications there, but I cannot access them. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
[14:48] <thiebaude1> sebsebseb: hi
 In my experience, it has always been an extension of some-kind that causes the problems in firefox.
[14:49] <sysadmin> anyone knows where can I get info on networking a windows based computer and a computer with ubuntu?
[14:49] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: maybe some env variable ??
[14:50] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: ive tried editing it in /etc/apt/apt.conf...ive seen it there
[14:50] <Rigongia> it depends on what kind of infos you need, sysadmin
 And try killing the process from the terminal if nothing else is working, "  killall -9 firefox " should do the trick.
[14:51] <sysadmin> Ringongia, I have a network hdd with nas, and I want to share the info between computers
[14:51] <sysadmin> dimension128, ok, let me try that thanks for the tip
[14:51] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: any idea how to reset apt then??
[14:51] <Rigongia> never had to do with nas
[14:52] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: no; if there is nothing in the apt configuration nor any env varable...
[14:52] <Rigongia> still if you need to know your box's ip address you can use the command prompt (shell under ubuntu) and type : ipconfig (respectively ifconfig)
[14:52] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: but i still cant update :(
[14:53] <sysadmin> dimension128, it didn't work. firefox has uninterruptible as status
[14:56] <sysadmin> Rigongia,  I have a network hdd with nas, and I want to share the info between computers
[14:56] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: dunno what to check
 what does it say in the terminal after you issue the kill command?  If you need to, you can add sudo to the beginning of that.     if  sudo killall -9 firefox    wont do it, you have a problem that Im not experienced enough to help with.
[14:57] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowto <-- at the bottom
[14:57] <sysadmin> dimension128, it doesn't return any message. It just do nothing even with sudo
[14:58] <Rigongia> sysadmin : do you know the ip address of the hdd ?
[14:59] <sysadmin> I think so
[14:59] <sysadmin> Rigongia, I think so
[14:59] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: you checked that you do not have a http proxy declared in bash ?
[15:00] <Guest55644> Juste un essai
[15:00] <sysadmin> Rigongia, well, I'm not so sure because I set up an IP address to configure some parameters. Is that the same address as accessing the drive to store files?
[15:00] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: how do i do that??
[15:00] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: env | grep -i proxy
[15:00] <Rigongia> sysadmin : i think you can use samba (and yes, it is the same address)
[15:00] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: for example
[15:01] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: its declared there...how to remove??
[15:01] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: unset variable_name
[15:01] <beehive> hey folks
[15:02] <Rigongia> hey beehive
[15:02] <beehive> got this blue stripe down my screen
[15:02] <sysadmin> Rigongia, I think I got it. Well, lets say now that a member of my familiy that uses windows needs help with remote assistance. Is there any application that will allow me to help connecting ubuntu with windows for remote assistance?
[15:02] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: thanks alot...working now
[15:02] <bogeyman> hi, i'm on fresh ubuntu 9.10 installation - when i try to burn a data DVD in Brasero the process begins it shows the amount of data already written to the disc and then around 50% it starts to show 0% and 0MB and becomes corrupt
[15:02] <anom01y> how do I get crtl alt backspace to work in xubuntu ?
[15:02] <anom01y> there was a program I installed last time but I forgot the name of it,
[15:02] <mmm4m5m> question please: I have 4 installed packages with name "linux-image..." (also "linux-ubuntu-modules..."). Do I have to manually uninstall from time to time?
[15:02] <beehive> its only present in firefox
[15:02] <sebsebseb> anom01y: it got  disabled by xorg look in release notes
[15:03] <sebsebseb> !notes |  anom01y
[15:03] <Rigongia> you could setup a vnc over ssh (just for paranoia :) ) or you could use vino or any other remote desktop client
[15:03] <sebsebseb> Rigongia: that's not paranoia
[15:03] <sebsebseb> Rigongia: paranoia would be a VPM
[15:03] <n0dl> hello, I am trying to get X to display on my lcd tv which is connected via vga. Whenver I try to use the intel driver the monitor goes black and "No Signal" is displayed however whenever i try to startx the screen i get a No Signal error. However when I try using the vesa driver it X displays
[15:03] <sebsebseb> VPN
[15:03] <beehive> any ideas?
[15:03] <Rigongia> well ... an RSA encrypted connection is surely not careless :P
[15:04] <sysadmin> any idea where can I get started with it?
[15:04] <Mylisto> anyone in here ever used a sony mp3 player?
[15:04] <sysadmin> I'm kinda new to linux, so any GUI will be perfect for my purpose
[15:04] <Mylisto> I used to be able to add music to my 4gig mp3 player
[15:04] <Mylisto> now I cant
[15:04] <Rigongia> sudo apt-get install vino and then you toy around a little (never really used it, so i can't be more helpful than this for now)
[15:05] <sysadmin> Rigongia, is vino secure enough?
[15:05] <white-knight> howzit ppepz
[15:05] <Rigongia> honestly, i can't bet on it
[15:06] <Rigongia> also because i'm not sure Windows remote-desktop server supports encryption
[15:06] <sysadmin> I see
[15:06] <bogeyman> hi, i'm on fresh ubuntu 9.10 installation - when i try to burn a data DVD in Brasero the process begins it shows the amount of data already written to the disc and then around 50% it starts to show 0% and 0MB and becomes corrupt - does anyone have similar problems with brasero?
[15:06] <Rigongia> so if you're on a LAN it is secure enough, otherwise i'd think about tunnelling it over ssh
[15:06] <sysadmin> ok, I think I would prefer to learn on ssh
[15:06] <white-knight> any one i need help connecting to irc network za.shadowfire.org on xchat
[15:07] <sysadmin> do you know any tutorial that might help me get the basics?
[15:07] <jrib> sysadmin: basics of what?
[15:07] <erUSUL> white-knight: Crtl + S add/eddit an entry for the server you want
[15:07] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: its updating but not downloading and installing
[15:07] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: error msg ?
[15:07] <sysadmin> jrib, ssh
[15:08] <Fran-X> º.ª
[15:08] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: no err msg...just hung there 0% [Connecting to 192.168.9.244 (192.168.9.244)]
[15:08] <Slart> bogeyman: 9.10 is still very unfinished.. and better discussed in #ubuntu+1
[15:08] <djiezes> Hi, I need some help with remote desktop in ubuntu (Vinagre). Both desktop pc's are in my own home network. I want to connect from my desktop pc (wired connection) to another one (wireless), but to no avail. I don't even get the chance to login with the password protection. I tried changing the port (from 5900 to 46367), set some portforwarding rules, but all to no avail. Can anyone help me or guide me through it?
[15:08] <chazco> Hi... is it possible to revert to this theme - http://bethesignal.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/gdm-gutsy-400x300.jpg - in Ubuntu 9.04?
[15:09] <bogeyman> oh, sorry - 9.04
[15:09] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: now it timed out :(
[15:09] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: problem in the server end probably or maybe you indeed need a http proxy where you are
[15:09] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: definetly not :)...i didnt use a proxy till 5 days ago from the same connection
[15:10] <axisys> is there any tool available that can trigger a job when new file added to a dir ?
[15:10] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: plus i would have been in #ubuntu-proxy-users too ;)
[15:10] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: then is a problem with the server... try changing mirrors
[15:10] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: testing for the best mirror
[15:10] <Rigongia> sorry, afk
[15:10] <Slart> chazco: in system, administration, login window, I've still got something called "Human List" which looks like that.. the normal "Human" theme is the new darker one
[15:11] <jrib> axisys: incrond?
[15:11] <bogeyman> hi, i'm on fresh ubuntu 9.04 installation - when i try to burn a data DVD in Brasero the process begins it shows the amount of data already written to the disc and then around 50% it starts to show 0% and 0MB and becomes corrupt - does anyone have similar problems with brasero?
[15:11] <axisys> jrib: never heard of it.. let me take a look.. thanks
[15:11] <chazco> Slart - Hmm, its better but was looking for the simple one, thanks though :)
[15:11] <jrib> axisys: google ifnotify and related, you'll probably find what you want
[15:12] <sysadmin> bogeyman, why don't you try k3b?
[15:12] <siOuX_> dia
[15:12] <X8SanguineRoseX> bodeyman: Error Validation/Check on?
[15:12] <axisys> jrib: ifnotify?
[15:12] <lenman> bogeyman, I had similar problems and switched to K3B
 The md5 hashing (or something) in brasero is screwed up, it will always tell you the disc is corrupt.
[15:13] <erUSUL> axisys: is "inotify" a kernel facility
[15:13] <jrib> axisys: incrond is what you asked for, but I'm just suggesting you learn about inotify
[15:13] <shadeslayer> bogeyman: check this out
[15:13] <sysadmin> thank you all guys for helping out :)
[15:13] <shadeslayer> !md5 > bogeyman
[15:13] <Xcell> gnomebaker
[15:13] <Xcell> works
[15:13] <axisys> jrib: ok
[15:13] <tunisiano> sqlut
[15:13] <erUSUL> !info inotify-tools | axisys
[15:13] <tunisiano> salut
[15:14] <X8SanguineRoseX> sysadmin: I have not done anything! :D
[15:14] <dimension128> I burn cd's with it anyway, and just stop it when its doing the check.
[15:14] <axisys> erUSUL: thanks
[15:14] <chazco> Hi... is it possible to revert to this theme - http://bethesignal.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/gdm-gutsy-400x300.jpg - in Ubuntu 9.04?
[15:14] <shadeslayer> chazco: tried finding it on gnome-look.org??
[15:14] <bogeyman> it's not a problem with the md5 check - the program becomes corrupt before it can even burn the whole thing
[15:14] <Fran-X> hello
[15:15] <shadeslayer> k3b ftw
[15:15] <Fran-X> anyone know if is possible dicrease the quality of the desktop in vinagre?
[15:16] <chazco> shadeslayer - Yep, cant find a matching version
[15:16] <shadeslayer> no idea then
[15:16] <Fran-X> i have a friend with low upload and is very very slow
[15:16] <corigo> I'm trying to recompile an rpm to deb but I am receiving an error of :Unpacking of 'amarok-2.0.96-14.1.x86_64.rpm' failed at /usr/share/perl5/Alien/Package/Rpm.pm line 155.
[15:16] <shadeslayer> corigo: arent there debs for amarok??
[15:17] <corigo> Not for 2.0.96 (not yet anyway)
[15:17] <erUSUL> !rpm | corigo
[15:18] <Mbear> Hi gang, how do I create a desktop icon to run me rdesktop command?  (9.04 netbook remix) Thx
[15:18] <siropio> could you tell me how to unistall everything that has to do with mysql-apche-php ??
[15:18] <axisys> erUSUL: i dont have /dev/inotify device in my ubuntu w/ kernel 2.6.28-11-generic
[15:18] <shadeslayer> Mbear: desktop switcher ??
[15:18] <shadeslayer> !info desktop-switcher | Mbear
[15:18] <siropio> i want to install XAMPP
[15:19] <erUSUL> axisys: neither do i. the device file is not longer used afaik
[15:19] <siropio> but i have already an apaphe
[15:19] <axisys> erUSUL: ok
[15:19] <corigo> erUSUL: Not very helpful.
[15:19] <erUSUL> corigo: it's quite dangerous and *unsupported*
[15:20] <Mbear> I'm using rdesktop -u etc 192.168 etc, so I just need to invoke it with my default command optins, from an icon
[15:21] <vinsonizer> I've just installed Jaunty and my hp laserjet 2420 isn't working... and i have no idea how to troubleshoot
[15:21] <corigo> erUSUL: That doesn't help me. What is the alternative?
[15:21] <shadeslayer> !printer | vinsonizer
[15:22] <vinsonizer> shadeslayer: thanks, i'll take a look
[15:22] <phR0Zen> Mbear, doesn't netbook remix have that rightclick -> create launcher?
[15:23] <siropio> who knows XAMPP???
[15:23] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: installing *very* slowly :P
[15:23] <phR0Zen> siropio, i know xampp
[15:23] <erUSUL> !latest | corigo
[15:23] <abchirk> Hi anyone here with Jaunty who has also a fucked up youtube-page?
[15:23] <Mbear> phr0Zen no, it doesn't... I know that some versions have it, but I right click on the blanl screen area and get nothing...; I know there's a application that does it easily, but I can't remember its name
[15:23] <erUSUL> !lamp | siropio
[15:23] <shadeslayer> !language | abchirk
[15:24] <axisys> erUSUL, jrib before I go too far with these tools .. i am trying to triger a job when uploading a file completes in my proftpd .. i posted the question to proftpd as well
[15:24] <axisys> trigger*
[15:25] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: thanks and Byee
[15:25] <Meee> instilatuon took 2 hours
[15:25] <siropio> ubottu:i have already installed the XAMPP(lapmpp) but in localhost/phpmyadmin i have a problem
[15:26] <whatvn> tired! someone please tell me the way to play bin video with vlc?
[15:26] <erUSUL> axisys: maybe inotifywait from the package i mentioned can be used for this. or the tool jrib mentioned incrond
[15:26] <anom01y> wierd, after I installed kde and gnome in xubuntu 9.04, xfce's panel fails to load after login and I have to manually do it every time by running xfce4-panel
[15:26] <corigo> erUSUL: Again... still not helping. If the latest worked, I would be using it, but it is broken, and the previous was terrible... the future is now. It's not like Ubuntu is any where close to stable. Last 2 releases I can't suspend my laptop without crashing XServer in Ubuntu
[15:26] <axisys> erUSUL: thanks a lot..
[15:26] <erUSUL> corigo: checked backports ? (mentioned in the factoid)
[15:26] <erUSUL> axisys: no problem
[15:27] <corigo> backports are installed. First thing I install on every build
[15:27] <erUSUL> corigo: if a new version is not in backports last chances are in www.getdeb.net or on a ppa
[15:27] <erUSUL> !ppa | corigo
[15:27] <pepso> hi. please tell me how to remove grub from the vista and Ubuntu dual partition
[15:28] <erUSUL> pepso: with a windws install cd
[15:28] <whatvn> pepso: fdisk /mbr
[15:28] <erUSUL> pepso: boot into recovery console and run "fixmbr" more details in ##windows
[15:28] <pepso> erUSUL: yeah I have one. but its not working.
[15:29] <erUSUL> pepso: what is not working ?
[15:29] <whatvn> someone please tell me the way to play bin video with vlc? I use bchunk to convert bin file and cue file to .iso, but it doesn't work
[15:29] <jjbin> hello everyone
[15:29] <pepso> erUSUL: I have windows Xp cd. fdisk /mbr is not working.
[15:29] <Meee> hi
[15:30] <whatvn> erUSUL: use bootable cd, boot into dos. and run fdisk /mbr
[15:30] <erUSUL> corigo: here https://launchpad.net/~project-neon/+archive/ppa
[15:30] <beehive> haha . tech tap did it
[15:30] <_katia_> hello everybody
[15:30] <erUSUL> pepso: i did not tell you to use fdisk
[15:31] <erUSUL> pepso: is "fixmbr" what you should use
[15:31] <beehive> i had a blue line down my screen
[15:31] <Meee> hi katia
[15:31] <whatvn> noone play bin video file before?
[15:31] <erUSUL> pepso: fdisk /mbr is ancient from the windos 9x times
[15:31] <pepso> erUSUL: then I used only fixmbr. but its not showing any msg. Yeah I used dos to give commands using the bootable xp cd using Recovery mode as per google search. but its not working.
[15:31] <erUSUL> pepso: it may or not work
[15:31] <_katia_> is anybody here who can help me with a wireless router and a fastweb HAG?
[15:31] <bandzi> hello to all,just testing... greetz
[15:31] <jjbin> if I was beginer where could I learn first
[15:31] <beehive> damn its back
[15:31] <aatish> hi
[15:32] <midnajt> bandzi: Welcome
[15:32] <aatish>  i need some help. i want to enable the password authentication when mounting hard disk in gnome. the one you get  when you first mount a hard disk.
[15:32] <erUSUL> pepso: well if it is not working ask in ##windows
[15:32] <jjbin> is there something like introduction book
[15:32] <pepso> erUSUL: ok thanks
[15:32] <platius> pepso;  http://www.supergrubdisk.org/    this worked for me
[15:33] <Gourlis> Hello, when my Ubuntu 9.04 loads it says "Boot from hd0, 4.." that's right or wrong ?
[15:34] <whatvn> Gourlis: it's ok
[15:34] <whatvn> Gourlis: nice to see you again :-p
[15:34] <Gourlis> whatvn, ooo hi hehehehe
[15:35] <Gabrys> hello here
[15:35] <Gabrys> I've just installed ubuntu-netbook-remix package
[15:35] <Gourlis> whatvn, it should be hd0, 2 or something ? because hd0 goes for windows
[15:35] <whatvn> Gourlis: did you play .bin video before?
[15:35] <whatvn> Gourlis: how many disk you have?
[15:36] <Gabrys> I'm running the minimal WM now, and I wonder if I can remove the window-title-bar (since the app name is already on the taskbar)
[15:36] <Gourlis> whatvn, no.
[15:36] <Gourlis> whatvn, 1 hard disk
[15:36] <jared__> yo guys
[15:36] <whatvn> Gourlis: sudo fdisk -l will give you answer
[15:36] <beehive> gota blue line down the center of  my screen
[15:36] <beehive> any ideas?\
[15:36] <jared__> how can i make my external Monitor Scale my Wine Window Apps to Full Screen ??
[15:37] <corigo> erUSUL is that a package address?
[15:37] <erUSUL> corigo: is a repository
[15:37] <beehive> you people are helpless
[15:37] <beehive> fuck you guys
[15:37] <Slart> chazco: did you find the theme you wanted?
[15:38] <Gourlis> whatvn, I see 3.
[15:38] <Gourlis> beehive, try /quit
[15:38] <y-sick> beehive pls behave
[15:38] <whatvn> Gourlis: 3?
[15:38] <jared__> how can I make my external Monitor scale my Wine-Apps to full screen ??
[15:38] <Pater> sådan
[15:38] <try2free> halo
[15:38] <Pater> tak :)
[15:38] <corigo> jaunty main or other?
[15:38] <midnajt> someon here using Hontpad++
[15:39] <Gourlis> whatvn, yes
[15:39] <midnajt> *Notepad++
[15:39] <Pater> hi there
[15:39] <whatvn> Gourlis: pastbin your fdisk -l
[15:39] <Slart> midnajt: isn't that a windows app?
[15:39] <Pater> can anybody help me installing america's army?
[15:39] <midnajt> Slart: yeah it is but I#m running it with Wine
[15:40] <Eugene_K> Hello. Can anyone help me with configuring grub during Ubuntu installation. I installed the system into extended partition (root, home and swap are 3 logical partitions there) but I have no option to destroy my laptop's factory mbr. So I've decided to use DosGRUB (in fact, EasyBCD's NeoGRUB). Can anyone give me a hint on how to configure it?
[15:40] <Gourlis> whatvn, where to paste it? :P I don't remember the site.
[15:40] <Slart> midnajt: then #winehq might get you better answers
[15:40] <try2free> i am modify my /etc/fstab for Mount Windows Shares Permanently
[15:40] <Mbear^> phr0Zen ..; so there's an app that would get invoked if I could start it with a right click - do you know whatthe app is?
[15:40] <Slart> midnajt: it's the official channel for wine support
[15:40] <tunisiano> sqlut
[15:40] <chazco> Slart - Nope
[15:40] <tunisiano> salut
[15:40] <midnajt> Slart: Well this isn't a problem question ;-) it works fine
[15:40] <whatvn> Gourlis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:40] <chazco> Anyone know of a good touchscreen interface for 9.04?
[15:40] <Gourlis> whatvn, thanks dude.
[15:40] <try2free> now i am using dosemu to run my program, but program can't execute? but i can see list of files, anyone can help?
[15:41] <Slart> chazco: there were several older human themes in the repos.. didn't see anything from gutsy though.. why not download the deb from packages.ubuntu.com and see if it installs in jaunty
[15:41] <chazco> S.
[15:41] <tunisiano> comment changer mon clavier azerty
[15:41] <chazco> Slart - May try that... made my own theme for now :D
[15:41] <midnajt> every time I start Notepad++ it creates files like p.doc
[15:41] <Gourlis> whatvn, check here --> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/184323/
[15:41] <Slart> chazco: =)
[15:42] <Slart> midnajt: sounds like a "notepad++" problem.. should probably be asked to the notepad++ people..
[15:42] <midnajt> Slart: heading to them 8)
[15:42] <try2free> i am modify my /etc/fstab for mount windows shares permanently now i am using dosemu to run my program, but program can't execute? but i can see list of files, anyone can help?
[15:43] <whatvn> Gourlis: you dont have windows
[15:43] <noahnonono> Is Ubuntu to Debain possible
[15:43] <Regral> hey can anyone help me with the beta adobe 10 64 bit install
[15:43] <Gourlis> whatvn, I do have. (NTFS) :P
[15:43] <whatvn> Gourlis: tell me the way you install Linux?
[15:43] <noahnonono> Is Ubuntu to Debain possible?????????
[15:43] <Slart> noahnonono: possible.. as in possible to upgrade from ubuntu to debian? or possible in some other way?
[15:43] <LjL> !repeat | noahnonono
[15:44] <necroforest> What's the main difference between Ubuntu and Debian?
[15:44] <Slart> noahnonono: and please stop with the question marks
[15:44] <ThJ> Anyone know why the MacBook Air gets hot when running Ubuntu? I have installed powernowd and CPU speed is now 800 MHz when idle, but the computer feels hot when running Ubuntu instead of MacOSX.
[15:44] <necroforest> Are the packages mostly the same?
[15:44] <LjL> !debian
[15:44] <Gourlis> whatvn, normaly, created partition for Ubuntu 30gb and started install.
[15:44] <tunisiano> how can i change ;y keyboard to azerty
[15:44] <tunisiano> how can i change my keyboard to azerty
[15:44] <LjL> !keyboard | tunisiano
[15:44] <bazhang> tunisiano, dont repeat
[15:45] <Slart> necroforest: I would say the "target audience".. ubuntu is more about making a distro for everyday people.. debian feels more like a "teach people the right way"-distro =)
[15:45] <midnajt> damn I need to get some errors so I can ask questions too xD
[15:45] <Gabrys> I needed maximus if anyone cares
[15:45] <necroforest> ah. I'm basically looking for "Debian with faster package releases"
[15:45] <Slart> necroforest: but I haven't been involved in the development of either.. so I wouldn't really know..
[15:45] <whatvn> Gourlis: check my partition table http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/184326/
[15:46] <Gourlis> whatvn, alright dude.
[15:46] <Mbear^> OK gang, 9.04 netbook remix.  I invoke rdesktop in termal window using "rdesktop -u me 192.168.0.1" and I want to create a desktop icon to do it for me.  The old way of rigth clicking on the desktop doesn't work.  ideas? Thx
[15:47] <Gourlis> whatvn, :D am new in to hd0, 4. I will find out :P
[15:47] <whatvn> Gourlis: do you use grub?
[15:47] <okrutnik> no
[15:48] <Eugene_K> can I set up grub to boot system from lvm2 ? without using primary /boot partition ?
[15:48] <whatvn> okrutnik: I think so
[15:48] <Gourlis> whatvn, yeah.
[15:48] <whatvn> Gourlis: you use grub? you're joking?
[15:49] <Gourlis> whatvn, no. I re-arranged the list there so Windows will start first.
[15:49] <Gourlis> whatvn, grub .. menu.lst
[15:49] <alienkid10> hi guys
[15:49] <Eugene_K> Hi :)
[15:50] <X8SanguineRoseX> Shun You!
[15:50] <Regral> Can anyone help me install the adobe 10 64 bit alpha?
[15:50] <X8SanguineRoseX> probably not
[15:50] <Regral> I = Noobsauce
[15:50] <X8SanguineRoseX> I could not resist saying that
[15:50] <alienkid10>  I am using debootstrap to make a liveCD and now it's time to umount the dev dir but umount says it's busy
[15:51] <Xcell> NoobSauce with xtra gravy?
[15:51] <Xcell> mmmm
[15:51] <X8SanguineRoseX> but its true
[15:51] <alienkid10> what would it be busy with?(sorry for enter)
[15:52] <Eugene_K> So is there a way to point the correct kernel and initrd in menu.lst if they are inside lvm partition?
[15:52] <X8SanguineRoseX> ive never heard of adobe on linux before
[15:52] <Regral> if i knew how to use the install file you get for the adobe id be fine
[15:52] <Regral> lol
[15:52] <X8SanguineRoseX> mean adobe reader?
[15:52] <Regral> yea
[15:52] <jdu> alienkid10:   lsof  | grep /dev/dir
[15:52] <nano404> Got a question, when installing Ubuntu on a partition, should the mount point be "/" or "/boot" or what?
[15:52] <Regral> sry i mean adobe flash player
[15:52] <Eugene_K> nano404: /
[15:52] <alienkid10> jdu: command not found
[15:52] <erUSUL> nano404: /
[15:53] <nano404> Eugene_K: Thanks
[15:53] <Wixicy> Hello
[15:53] <jdu> alienkid10: you're sure?
[15:53] <alienkid10> yep
[15:53] <whatvn> Gourlis: I didn't see something like ur partition table before :-p
[15:53] <Regral> since I have 64-bit ubuntu im not able to stream mi animez well need the 64-bit adobe player
[15:53] <alienkid10> that's what bash syas
[15:53] <Gourlis> whatvn, nevermind ;p it works good ;p
[15:53] <Pops> czesc
[15:54] <Pops> hi
[15:54] <whatvn> Gourlis: are you sure you're using grub?
[15:54] <shubbar> Anyone know of a good session recorder? I tried Istanbul but could not get it to record.
[15:54] <Eugene_K> Does anyone knows anything about grub and lvm (or booting form extended partition)?
[15:54] <alienkid10> should I use fuser?
[15:54] <nano404> Why does my free space become unuseable after I partition it?
[15:54] <Mbear^> Hi folks, what app do I use in 9.04 netbook remix to modify the folder options that appear on the left hand side of the screen? Thx
[15:54] <Gourlis> whatvn, I used a command with grub/menu.lst something to edit that list so I my Windows can start first.
[15:55] <alienkid10> lsof
[15:55] <alienkid10> worked
[15:55] <alienkid10> how can I stop it?
[15:55] <jdu> alienkid10: that's really odd; at any rate lsof list all open files (some of which are making it busy); then you could grep for the mount point
[15:55] <Gourlis> whatvn, --> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:55] <gonzojive> how do I force X to shut down?
 install 32-bit version of firefox and then install the 32-bit version of flash player, etc.
[15:55] <Wixicy> I am having a small dilemma here. I'm setting up wireless in ad-hoc mode, but when another computer is connecting it does not get a IP. What I need help with is what program I should use as DHCP, and help with configurating it. Thanks
[15:56] <gonzojive> the display of my system freezes about once a day, how should I debug it?
[15:56] <gonzojive> it is frozen right now but I can still SSH into the machine
[15:56] <alienkid10> the mount point is "~/custom/work/rootfs/dev
[15:56] <whatvn> Gourlis: I don't know grub can installed on ntfs partition or not, grub only runs on linux filesystem only, i thought
[15:56] <Gourlis> gonzojive, 8.04 ?
[15:56] <gonzojive> Gourlis: yes
[15:56] <Gourlis> gonzojive, I had the same problems with you, I didn't find any solution so I installed 9.04.
[15:56] <Wixicy> I am having a small dilemma here. I'm setting up wireless in ad-hoc mode, but when another computer is connecting it does not get a IP. What I need help with is what program I should use as DHCP, and help with configurating it. Thanks
[15:56] <nano404> Why does my free space become unuseable after I partition it? I still need to create a SWAP partition.
[15:57] <jdu> gonzojive: look at logs:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log  to start
[15:57] <gonzojive> Gourlis: did that do the trick?
[15:57] <whatvn> gonzojive: run startx, what happen next?
[15:57] <wrsg> ive got what im guessing is a common problem, i.e. the HOME/.dmrc message at boot
[15:57] <gonzojive> jdu: strangely, Xorg.0.log looks normal and so does dmesg
[15:57] <wrsg> how do i solve the permissions problem?
[15:57] <shubbar> nano404, you need to format , partitioning is just creating blank nothingness
[15:57] <Gourlis> gonzojive, I'm better now, Ubuntu 9.04 are even faster. (I had problems like you with 8.04 with no responding many times)
[15:57] <DIL> !permissions
[15:58] <Wixicy> can someone help me?
[15:58] <Mr_Bunny_> Is anyone else having problems with file dialogs on Jaunty hanging before they open?
[15:58] <wrsg> i mean i tried setting the file to read/write by my user
[15:58] <necroforest> Can you install KDE 3.5 on Ubuntu? I just see 4.2 packages.
[15:58] <gonzojive> whatvn: hmm, after running "sudo poweroff" before I got your message, the computer is just hanging now and the SSH won't even work
[15:58] <nano404> shubbar: Exit the installation and use GParted?
[15:58] <Gourlis> whatvn, peace :D
[15:58] <bullgard4> Gajim produces Sounds at times (or say in certain situations). What is the English name of these sounds?
[15:59] <whatvn> Gourlis: I wonder how can you install Linux with that partition table, haha
[15:59] <shubbar> nano404, that's possible. Whichever is easiest to you.
[15:59] <gonzojive> Gourlis: thanks for the advice, I'm definitely going to upgrade if that worked for you
[15:59] <whatvn> gonzojive: can you boot into recovery mode?
[16:00] <gonzojive> whatvn: I can boot up normal, but every once in a while the display freezes
[16:00] <gonzojive> maybe once a day
[16:00] <alienkid10> so how to stop it from being busy?
[16:00] <Regral> can anyone help me with installing a .so file?
[16:00] <Gourlis> gonzojive, my experience dude.. 8.04 didn't work for me. Every 2-3 days with no responding what to do it?!?! 9.04 The end! :D
[16:01] <whatvn> gonzojive: run top. find what application make your system freeze
[16:01] <alienkid10> should I restart?
[16:01] <aatish> i want to enable the password authentication when mounting hard disk in gnome. the one you get  when you first mount a hard disk. can someone tell me how to do that
[16:01] <aatish>  plz guy
[16:01] <Kalmi_> gonzojive, are you using restricted drivers?
[16:01] <Wixicy> I need help setting up a DHCP on Ubuntu that works when Ubuntu is in ad-hoc mode
[16:01] <Gourlis> whatvn, usually when I was going to open Firefox or Terminal, Ubuntu was going to "Not Responding" like freeze as gonzojive said.
[16:03] <aatish> i want to enable the password authentication when mounting hard disk in gnome. the one you get  when you first mount a hard disk. can someone tell me how to do that
[16:03] <aatish>  plz guy
[16:03] <Jasa> Hey there all, quick question on regards building a debian package ... i did some searching quick on net and it would seem i need to do something like dpkg-deb etc ... but main question would be ...
[16:03] <drudge> hey nico_  :)
[16:03] <whatvn> Gourlis: maybe I'm lucky man, never face with these errors before :-p
[16:04] <Gourlis> whatvn, at the begining i was fine too. but later on.. damn it
[16:04] <nico_> yo drudge :D
[16:04] <gonzojive> whatvn: cool, I will do that next time.  I think i have a log somehwere...
[16:04] <Wixicy> Do anyone know about a easy-to-use DHCP server for Ubuntu?
[16:04] <Jasa> Is there a simple way to make a debian package from "make install" command from cvs trees so it would make a package rather than install directly, so you can upgrade those current files nicely without package manager getting messed ... ?
[16:04] <Gourlis> whatvn, my nickname in Greek means Lucky (lol, so luck that am on 9.04 without ATI 3D Card support )
[16:04] <Kalmi_> Wixicy, dnsmasq
[16:04] <shal3r> Xorg on my Ubuntu hardy just started to consume 40-90% of CPU all the time even after reboot and no apps launched. How to debug this?
[16:04] <gonzojive> Kalmi_: yes, I am using nvidia proprietary drivers.  the system was unstable with an ati card, too
[16:05] <meoblast001> hi
[16:05] <Wixicy> Kalmi_, I tried dnsmasq, but had problems getting it set up
[16:05] <meoblast001> is it normal if i haven't updated Ubuntu in weeks and there are still no updates available?
[16:05] <Kalmi_> Wixicy, what kind of problems?
[16:05] <gonzojive> Gourlis: did you use restricted drivers?  nvidia or ati?
[16:05] <whatvn> Gourlis: lol. I think your nickname didn't help you much
[16:05] <Kalmi_> Wixicy, dnsmasq is really easy to use imo...
[16:05] <drudge> what's up nico_ ?
[16:05] <Gourlis> gonzojive, ATI isn't supported on Ubuntu 9.04 - So I left my 9.04 as installed.
[16:05] <nico_> not much
[16:05] <nico_> u
[16:05] <nico_> ?
[16:05] <Gourlis> whatvn, yeah :P
[16:06] <darksifer>  plz guys help me
[16:06] <Wixicy> Kalmi_, what I want to do is to set up DHCP that gives out IP to people that connect to my PC which is in ac-hoc mode
[16:06] <Gourlis> gonzojive, at least my ATI Radeon.
[16:06] <jdsanderson> Help i upgraded to jaunty and now grub returns error #18 no boot
[16:06] <drudge> not much, just setting up a new hardy server
[16:06] <Jasa> Anyone who has made those debian packages (deb files) please open in private ...
[16:06] <Kalmi_> !helpme | darksifer
[16:06] <whatvn> how can I play .bin video on Linux :(
[16:06] <Kalmi_> jdsanderson, what's error 18? have you looked it up? google: grub error codes
[16:06] <Gourlis> whatvn, ask Kalmi_ maybe he knows.
[16:06] <Gourlis> :]
[16:06] <darksifer> sorry
[16:06] <Jasa> Is your boot in ext4 ?
[16:07] <Wixicy> Kalmi_, could you send me your dnsmasq config file?
[16:07] <darksifer> !helpme
[16:07] <Kalmi_> Gourlis, ?
[16:07] <Kalmi_> Wixicy, what was the issue? it wasn't giving out addresses?
[16:07] <Jasa> If so, you should install a ext3 /boot on own partition.
[16:07] <whatvn> Kalmi_: how can I play .bin video on linux?
[16:07] <Wixicy> Kalmi_, nope I didnt manage to get it to do so
[16:07] <Wixicy> whatvn, mplayer
[16:08] <Kalmi_> whatvn, VLC can play  them
[16:08] <whatvn> Kalmi_,Wixicy: VLC cannot play, mplayer works with no sound
[16:08] <Kalmi_> Wixicy, you need to uncomment the most simple "dhcp_range" line in the config file to activate DHCP
[16:08] <Kalmi_> whatvn, is it a cd image?
[16:09] <whatvn> Kalmi_: I download from a torrent site
[16:09] <Kalmi_> whatvn...
[16:09] <Kalmi_> !iso | whatvn
[16:09] <Wixicy> whatvn, try to extract the file
[16:09] <whatvn> Kalmi_: I also convert .bin and cue to iso, but it still not work. man!
[16:09] <Wixicy> Then use VLC to play the whole folder, as I guess it is a DVD-R movie
[16:10] <whatvn> Wixicy: I did, it's a vcd movie
[16:10] <Regral> can anyone help me install a .so file?
[16:10] <Gourlis> Kalmi_, can you take a look at --> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/184323/ <-- and tell me if you see anything strange there please.
[16:10] <Kalmi_> Regral, an "so" file is like a "dll" file under windows...
[16:11] <whatvn> Regral: it's a module of some application, like apache. vlc....
[16:11] <Regral> ok, so how do i install it to my system, im in dire need f the flash drivers..lol
[16:11] <midnajt> ok people my wlan is running without any problems but if I let my pc run for 'bout 10-15min without doing something the connection breaks and I can connect only if I reboot
[16:11] <Kalmi_> Gourlis, you don't have a swap partition...
[16:12] <midnajt> could the be a usb problem
[16:12] <Kalmi_> Gourlis, it seems ok otherwise...
[16:12] <Gourlis> Kalmi_, how can I create a swap partition ? :S
[16:12] <computer13137> Hi.  I'm trying to setup a little VNC accessible box.  In Ubuntu 8.10 I had no trouble doing this, but for some reason, it's not working this time.  I used apt-get to install xfce4 and vnc4server, as well as all the dependencies obviously.  I then put in my little custom xstartup script, and it's not working properly.  See this screenshot: http://www.imghost.oabw.net/img02/1243787113.png
[16:12] <Kalmi_> Regral, flash drivers?
[16:13] <Kalmi_> Gourlis, are you sure you need one? How much memory do you have and what do you use the machine for?
[16:13] <Wixicy> Kalmi_, where is the dnsmasq conf file located?
[16:13] <Regral> kalmi: yea im trying to get the adobe 10 alpha flash drivers on my comp
[16:13] <darksifer> midnajt: i used to get the same problem with ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10. but i dont get this when i upgraded to 9.04
[16:14] <whatvn> Kalmi_: any solution for my bin video, man?
[16:14] <Kalmi_> computer13137, gnome has a built-in vnc server... you could use that together with autologin... (imho... however I have never doone that)
[16:14] <midnajt> darksifer: you mean I should go "sudo apt.get update"
[16:14] <midnajt> *apt-get
[16:14] <Gourlis> Kalmi_, I use for 1st choice Windows Vista with 130GB for University etc.. And 2nd choice Ubuntu with 30GB space. I have 2GB MB RAM.
[16:14] <tyranos> i need help installing a radeon x1600 graphic drivers ? is it possible ?
[16:14] <darksifer> midnajt: i just did a fresh install of 9.04
[16:14] <computer13137> Kalmi_: What happened to xfce though?  I've never seen that before - where stuff is just missing like that. :|
[16:14] <darksifer> or u can try wicd
[16:14] <Wixicy> Tyranos, I have a x1600 myself
[16:15] <Wixicy> Tyranos, the drivers are included in Ubuntu
[16:15] <whatvn> Kalmi_: oop! I rename .bin to mpg and mplayer works good, damn it :|
[16:15] <Kalmi_> computer13137, dunno... I have only used xfce for like a hour once...
[16:15] <tyranos> Wixicy, and does compiz work with that
[16:15] <Kalmi_> whatvn, :D
[16:15] <computer13137> lol
[16:15] <midnajt> darksifer: thx gonna check it, it's really annoying
[16:15] <Wixicy> Tyranos, im not sure
[16:15] <shal3r> Xorg on my Ubuntu hardy just started to consume 40-90% of CPU all the time even after reboot and no apps launched. How to debug this?
[16:15] <Wixicy> Tyranos, but you find the drivers under "Hardware Drivers"
[16:15] <dooner> j #nyc.rb
[16:16] <whatvn> Kalmi_: can I use subtitle with mplayer?
[16:16] <dooner> fail...
[16:16] <hoohaah> why are there so many /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon procs? I counted 50 or so
[16:16] <tyranos> Wixicy, it freezes when i install them
[16:16] <Kalmi_> whatvn, linux programs should care about file extensions... odd...
[16:16] <Kalmi_> whatvn, try gmplayer
[16:16] <Wixicy> Tyranos, which version of Ubuntu do you use?
[16:16] <tyranos> 9.04
[16:16] <dan67> question: If I install another motherboard in a computer that runs Ubuntu. Do I need to do anything special to the OS to prepare it for that?
[16:17] <Kalmi_> whatvn, or have a look at mplayer's manpage
[16:17] <Wixicy> tyranos, im not sure then. only used 8.10 myself
[16:17] <Gourlis> Kalmi_, I use for 1st choice Windows Vista with 130GB for University etc.. And 2nd choice Ubuntu with 30GB space. I have 2GB RAM. What do you suggest ?
[16:17] <Kalmi_> dan67, no
[16:17] <nn_ick> hi. i want to make a kernel module. the compile says cannot find linux/mm.h and some other header files. but there they are, the header files
[16:17] <xteejx> dan67, not usually, no
[16:17] <hoohaah> Gourlis: university stuff takes 130GB?
[16:17] <Kalmi_> dan67, I have ubuntu installed on an extranl usb hdd and it work no matter what computer it is plugged into :)
[16:17] <whatvn> Kalmi_: ok, done! thank, dude!
[16:17] <Gourlis> hoohaah, yes I'm a multimedia designer.
[16:18] <dan67> Kalmi_, thanks, I thought not. The only thing different is that this new mobo has on board wifi. But I will probably not use it anyway
[16:18] <whatvn> Gourlis: are you. man? :-p
[16:18] <Wixicy> Kalmi_ : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/184343/
[16:18] <Gourlis> whatvn, yes.. Adobe is my gf.
[16:18] <Gourlis> hahaah
[16:18] <Wixicy> IS there anything wrong there?
[16:18] <nano404> lol
[16:18] <xteejx> dan67, If you have any problems, come back to #ubuntu, or ask a Question on Launchpad :)
[16:18] <hoohaah> Gourlis: i bet she comes cheap
[16:18] <hoohaah> Gourlis: like, free even
[16:18] <Kalmi_> Gourlis, I would say that 2 Gb is anough and you don't need a swap partition... unless you do some memory intensive stuff....
[16:19] <Gourlis> hoohaah, thanks to internet world ;D
[16:19] <Gourlis> Kalmi_, am better now thanks dude.
[16:19] <hoohaah> oh, mail order gf
[16:19] <whatvn> Gourlis: you cannot use hibernate, sleep if you dont have swap partition
[16:19] <dan67> Another quest, different issue: I have my whole HD encrypted via the encryption options available during setup. I now have a second HD installed in this computer. Is there a way to encrypt that also?
[16:20] <yoni> In apache2, under Ubuntu jaunty 32bit how can I load the mod_logio module?
[16:20] <Gourlis> whatvn, I never use it :P even on Windows or Ubuntu. :P
[16:20] <hoohaah> dan67: peruse /etc/fstab to see how the first was mounted
[16:20] <Kalmi_> Wixicy, "Uncomment this to enable the integrated DHCP server"...
[16:20] <Gourlis> whatvn, I have it only to close the display after 20 mins.
[16:20] <krisss117> hi, how i can install airoscript ? My version dosn't work
[16:20] <dan67> hoohaah, ok
[16:20] <Wixicy> Kalmi_, what does that mean?
[16:20] <nano404> 2.9 GB is enough for swap?
[16:20] <hoohaah> Wixicy: do as it says
[16:20] <whatvn> Gourlis: but try to install linux different way. Linux need more than one partition to work *good*
[16:20] <nano404> or should it be bigger
[16:21] <hoohaah> whatvn: not really
[16:21] <monra> Hello. I have installed stumpwm manager in Ubuntu. I just don't know how to change my GNOME window manager from default window manager and have stumpwm instead. Any ideas?
[16:21] <Wixicy> hoohaah, what is "uncommenting"?
[16:21] <Gourlis> whatvn, I can't create a swap partition now? without re-installing again.
[16:21] <hoohaah> Gourlis: if you spend most of your time in windows, may as well test ubuntu in a virtual desktop
[16:21] <whatvn> hoohaah: ?
[16:21] <hoohaah> Wixicy: remove comment character (#) at beginning of the line
[16:21] <whatvn> Gourlis: yes, you can
[16:21] <nano404> removing the comment thing before a line
[16:21] <krisss117> hi, how i can install airoscript ? My version dosn't work, who can help me ?
[16:22] <Gourlis> hoohaah, Winblows not Windows :D
[16:22] <hoohaah> whatvn: having all data on one root partition is perfectly fine
[16:22] <Gourlis> whatvn, an easy way ? :P
[16:22] <Kalmi_> Wixicy, any line that begins with a "#" is commented out and is not interpreted by dnsmasq....
[16:22] <_Ranakah> windows is bug
[16:22] <Kalmi_> Wixicy, uncommenting means removing that "#"
[16:22] <whatvn> hoohaah: fine, not perfectly fine
[16:22] <Wixicy> Ohh
[16:22] <whatvn> Gourlis: no easy way
[16:22] <dan67> hoohaah, ok looking at my fstab. But its just giving me the UUID of the mount point for / and /boot
[16:23] <stumped> is there a simple way to reinstall gnome and compiz back to initial state?  i had a problem with my resolution, got it fixed, now any desktop effects remove the titlebar from all windows, and my terminal comes up as a blank square.
[16:23] <hoohaah> whatvn: what would the average ubuntu user gain from multi partitions?
[16:23] <Gourlis> whatvn, which way then  ?:P
[16:23] <Sky[X]> how to make webcam live server on ubuntu ?
[16:23] <hoohaah> they're not finetuning quota, or anything of the sort
[16:23] <progex> guga
[16:23] <thevishy> hi all i need some help with linux mint
[16:23] <hoohaah> partitioning is only required to address the server's function
[16:24] <hoohaah> for all other purposes, it's fluff
[16:24] <thevishy> can anyone tell me why its not booting in my compaq presario
[16:24] <whatvn> hoohaah: we dont talk about user, we talk about linux, what is the most efficient way to make Linux work *good*
[16:24] <hoohaah> technically Linux is the kernel
[16:24] <whatvn> Gourlis: I give you a link or help you step by step? :p
[16:24] <thevishy> anyone on Presario laptop here
[16:25] <Gourlis> whatvn, yeah why not.
[16:25] <hoohaah> there is absolutely no point in telling a newb to partition when there is no need for it
[16:25] <bullgard4> Gajim produces sounds at times (or say in certain situations). What is the English name of these sounds?
[16:25] <Gourlis> whatvn, link
[16:25] <Kalmi_> !flash > Regral
[16:25] <hoohaah> and so, for them, it's perfectly fine
[16:25] <phR0Zen> Regral, i'm using 64-bit flash with opera now. don't know what to do to firefox to use it (and don't intend to)
[16:25] <phR0Zen> !flash > phR0Zen
[16:26] <jdsanderson> is there any reason to use ext4 file sys?
[16:26] <hoohaah> jdsanderson: to test it?
[16:26] <try2free> anyone know how to setting /etc/fstab?
[16:26] <dan67> jdsanderson, its faster?
[16:26] <hoohaah> jdsanderson: if you have to ask, no
[16:26] <try2free> i try follow instruction https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[16:27] <Gourlis> whatvn, I found a link. relax ;p
[16:27] <try2free> and everything works fine, just my dosemu can't load the program. anyone can help?
[16:27] <whatvn> Gourlis: but you must you fdisk to modify your current partition, create new one, re-format and make swap partition. but you still dont need swap until you use your computer as a server.
[16:27] <midnajt> hey I have 2 hard drives both are NTFS (on windows) is that good on ubuntu
[16:27] <lupine_85> whatvn: if you're running a server that's swapping, you're doing it wrong
[16:27] <bryanb> Hey everyone... I am trying to dual boot Ubuntu and windows XP on my laptop's SATA drive... I was able to install windows XP on the SATA after changing a setting in the BIOS... but when I go to install install ubuntu and I notice that the partition editor does not recognize any of the partitions I have set up.
[16:28] <Kalmi_> !fstab |try2free
[16:28] <ed_debian> lupine_85, It depends what you're trying to do with them.
[16:28] <hoohaah> try2free: is that the correct link?
[16:28] <bryanb> Any thoughts? I need XP for work but I want ubuntu installed
[16:28] <ska> I just installed Ubuntu on a eeepc 901, using the LPIA iso. It wont let me in as Sudo, nor allow main user to modify anything..
[16:28] <lupine_85> ed_debian: not particularly. if you're into swap, you should install more ram or not cache so much
[16:28] <whatvn> lupine_85: I faced with that problem before, Oracle running on RHEL.
[16:28] <try2free> hoofman: what link?
[16:28] <ska> Says "joe is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported"...
[16:28] <lupine_85> *shrug*
[16:28] <midnajt> bryanb: did you tried to install ubuntu from windows
[16:28] <stumped> midnajt: ubuntu is a ntfs os
[16:29] <ska> THis is a brand new install.
[16:29] <hoohaah> try2free: the instructions you're following
[16:29] <racecar56> how can i disable update-manager from popping up automatically?
[16:29] <stavrosLinux> bryanb: two pc's?
[16:29] <try2free> hoohaah: yes
[16:29] <ed_debian> lupine_85, I'm sorry I ment to say that to midnajt !!!
[16:29] <Kalmi_> stumped, midnajt: ubuntu ntfs os.... WTF?
[16:29] <bazhang> stumped, no its not
[16:29] <midnajt> stumped: ok thank you
[16:29] <racecar56> my comp is really old and in fact so old that 8.10 donsen't work (thanks for your improvements in 9.04, but >:( at this)
[16:30] <whatvn> lupine_85: sometimes swap is good, sometimes it's not. depend on how you administrate your server :p
[16:30] <hoohaah> try2free: because you're logged in?
[16:30] <stumped> it as of a sort
[16:30] <stumped> not windows ntfs
[16:30] <bazhang> stumped, please take chat elsewhere
[16:30] <ed_debian> midnajt, It depends what you're trying to do with these harddrives.  Generally speaking ext3 is a better file-system.  What are you trying to do?
[16:30] <racecar56> ext4 > ext3
[16:30] <lupine_85> whatvn: it's good if it stop the oom-killer kicking in. otherwise, it's no better than on-disc cache, and often worse
[16:31] <try2free> hoohaah: sorry my english, logged in to where?
[16:31] <lupine_85> (and by goosd, I mean less-bad)
[16:31] <Bsims> I have a problem, konqueror isn't respecting default application settings
[16:31] <ed_debian> lol good = less-bad
[16:31] <ska> I guess I'll try to use rescue mode from the cd
[16:31] <hoohaah> try2free: the like is https:// .. rather than http://
[16:31] <midnajt> ed_debian: well the second hd is used for backup data and I was able to open it anytime but now the password prompt jumped out
[16:31] <bullgard4> What is a 'sound event'? See http://trac.gajim.org/ticket/1984
[16:31] <res22> Anyone know how to mount my ubuntu ext4 partition on my other system?
[16:31] <hoohaah> try2free: wait, nvm
[16:31] <racecar56> how can i disable update-manager from popping up automatically? i have a really old comp that is so old ubuntu 8.10 dosen't work on it, it
[16:31] <racecar56> oops
[16:32] <racecar56> how can i disable update-manager from popping up automatically? i have a really old comp that is so old ubuntu 8.10 dosen't work on it, its a compaq SR1020NX
[16:32] <ed_debian> midnajt, the password prompt "jumped out"
[16:32] <ed_debian> ??
[16:32] <racecar56> *compaq presario
[16:32] <coz_> racecar56,   go to system/preferences/startup applications
[16:32] <coz_> racecar56,  untick the Update notifier entry
[16:32] <Kalmi_> ed_debian, why is ext3 a better fs?
[16:32] <ed_debian> Kalmi_, ext3 doesn't fragment
[16:32] <whatvn> lupine_85: did you use hugepages before?
[16:32] <midnajt> ed_debian: yeah like when you adding new apps
[16:32] <racecar56> ed_debian, what about ext4
[16:32] <Xolruya> im new in irc how i join to another channel
[16:33] <Bsims>  I have a problem, konqueror isn't respecting default application settings, I can change it but soon as I hit update or ok it puts it back
[16:33] <coz_> racecar56,  then it wont start up next time you log in or boot
[16:33] <racecar56> Xolruya, /join #channel
[16:33] <jrib> Xolruya: /join #otherchannel
[16:33] <hoohaah> ed_debian: they all 'fragment'
[16:33] <bazhang> Xolruya, /join #channel
[16:33] <racecar56> coz_, ill try that
[16:33] <lupine_85> whatvn: before what?
[16:33] <coz_> racecar56,  works  I do that on every version
[16:33] <Kalmi_> ed_debian, oh... you were comparing it to ntfs... ok... it thought you were comparing it to ntfs
[16:33] <whatvn> lupine_85: did you use hugepage?
[16:33] <hoohaah> ed_debian: it's the degree of fragmentation
[16:33] <try2free> hoofman: yes it's correct
[16:33] <ed_debian> hoohaah, racecar56 midnajt ext3 and ext4 automatically defragment themselves (it tons of little steps) all the time
[16:33] <lupine_85> whatvn: unknown
[16:33] <Kalmi_>  ed_debian, oh... you were comparing it to ntfs... ok... it thought you were comparing it to ext4
[16:34] <racecar56> ed_debian, : >
[16:34] <racecar56> ed_debian, what about ext2?
[16:34] <Xolruya> #quit
[16:34] <Wixicy_> Kalmi_, what is the command for starting dnsmasq dhcp?
[16:34] <ed_debian> I don't know as much about ext4.  I hear it is better, unstable, and boots faster (i am running it on my ubuntu install)
[16:34] <hoohaah> ed_debian: ext4 still has fragmentation
[16:34] <Bsims> I need help getting vlc to be the decault audio application
[16:34] <Kalmi_> Wixicy_, sudo /etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart
[16:34] <midnajt> ed_debian: wow thank you man now I love ubuntu even more
[16:34] <neo-i> Hello, I need to add a shared folder (from windows) in fstab. is this correct? //server/data /mnt/data smbfs
[16:34] <neo-i> username=smb_user,password=xxxxx,gid=users,dmask=7 77,fmask=777 0 0
[16:35] <ed_debian> midnajt, sure.  I still don't really understand what your harddrive is doing if you want help with that?
[16:35] <unop> neo-i, watch out for that space in ,dmask=7 77
[16:35] <hoohaah> ed_debian: please direct me to statistics on zero-fragmentation (or this dynamic-defragmentation feature) you mentioned
[16:35] <whatvn> lupine_85: sysctl -a | grep shmmax and sysctl -a | grep huge and http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.txt give you some information
[16:35] <ed_debian> racecar56, I don't know anything about ext2 besides it's old and don't bother whit it
[16:35] <yu77jian> irc?
[16:35] <Bsims> I need help getting vlc to be the decault audio application, I get this error konqueror(16520) FileTypesView::save: Entry  "audio/mp3"  is dirty. Saving any ideas?
[16:36] <racecar56> ed_debian, i dont
[16:36] <ed_debian> hoohaah, I'll look for a link hang on
[16:36] <neo-i> unop: I'll try it now
[16:36] <racecar56> ed_debian, all i know about it is no journal + old
[16:36] <racecar56> ed_debian, and that technically ext3 - journal = ext2
[16:36] <ed_debian> well there ya go!
[16:36] <ed_debian> lol
[16:37] <unop> neo-i,  I believe cifs replaces smbfs now .. should be a drop in replacement
[16:37] <midnajt> ed_debian: I don't have a problem everything is working how it should only that that was the first time I needed to input my password to access that harddrive xD
[16:37] <Jmeasow> Hi
[16:37] <Wixicy> Kalmi_, what is the command for starting dnsmasq dhcp
[16:37] <racecar56> coz_, thx
[16:37] <ska> How do I rescue a system and give the only user sudo access?
[16:37] <coz_> racecar56   no problem
 Wixicy_, sudo /etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart
[16:37] <Wixicy> Sorry, that was a bit late
[16:38] <ed_debian> midnajt, oic
[16:38] <Wixicy> Anyway I got an error
[16:38] <ed_debian> hoohaah, http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting
[16:38] <Kalmi_> Wixicy, what is it...?
[16:38] <Wixicy> Kalmi_, dnsmasq: bad option at line 125 of /etc/dnsmasq.conf
[16:38] <racecar56> coz_, more success, old computers. =D
[16:38] <Wixicy> When I am trying to start it
[16:38] <coz_> racecar56,  understood :)
[16:38] <hoohaah> ed_debian: nothing on it on ext4
[16:39] <racecar56> coz_, and it has an intel vid card :P (those are terrible)
[16:39] <Wixicy> Kalmi_, do I have to set up the conf file after I have uncommented or is it doing it itself
[16:39] <Kalmi_> Wixicy, you messed something up at line 125... it probably the word at the begging of th line...
[16:39] <racecar56> coz_, it cant do 3D very nicely...
[16:39] <racecar56> coz_, even 3D things from '99
[16:39] <coz_> racecar56,   oh  yeah I really understand   that's has to be a pain at times
[16:39] <racecar56> coz_, but however i have some things from '98 and they are SOMEWHAT 3D, and it works without lag
[16:39] <Wixicy> Kalmi_, cause after a purge reinstall of dnsmasq i just removed the commenting and didnt touch anything else in the conf file
[16:39] <racecar56> coz_, O_o
[16:40] <coz_> racecar56,  :)
[16:40] <racecar56> coz_, btw 8.10 dosen't work on here, thank God that they stuck the improvements in 9.04
[16:40] <Bert_2> Hi, I found out that my nvidia tv tuner card might work with the old rivatv module, but when I ./configure it tells me I should combine my Nvidia driver with UP, what's "UP" ?
[16:40] <racecar56> coz_, after seeing how every new release, the requirements were bigger, i was very dissapointed
[16:40] <coz_> racecar56,  is that right?  that's interesting   I wasnt aware of the problems
[16:40] <Wixicy> Kalmi_ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/184360/
[16:40] <racecar56> coz_, yeah
[16:41] <Kalmi_> Wixicy, you probably removed two charcters (instead of one)  or something like that....
[16:41] <racecar56> coz_, look at intrepid's, hardy's, gutsy's, feisty's, etc... and compare them... the newer the bigger UNTIL 9.04
[16:41] <neo-i> unop:  I got this :http://pastebin.com/m7221add3 :(
[16:42] <Wixicy> Kalmi_, oh LOL. I have to uncomment #dhcp-range=192.168.0.50,192.168.0.150,12h
[16:42] <neo-i> unop: after mounting the folder
[16:42] <Kalmi_> Wixicy, um... you are not supposed to comment out the explanation... :D
[16:42] <Wixicy> lol
[16:42] <Kalmi_> Wixicy_, *uncomment
[16:42] <racecar56> coz_, and i upgraded this thing with a gig of ram, it came with 512 mb originally
[16:42] <racecar56> coz_, this comp is really historical, although not my first
[16:42] <Kalmi_> Wixicy, use your head...
[16:42] <racecar56> coz_, it came with win xp
[16:43] <Wixicy> Kalmi_, sorry. I am quite new to "advanced computing"
[16:43] <coz_> racecar56,   oh ok  the upgrade of ram probably made  a huge difference
[16:43] <racecar56> coz_, i didnt know about ubuntu before i upgraded the ram
[16:43] <Kalmi_> Wixicy, hehe... dnsmasq is "advanced computing" now :)
[16:43] <racecar56> coz_, the comp 'broke' and slipped into history
[16:44] <OsamaK_> I got a problem burning data and audio cds (not dvds). Please see this topic <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7371609>.
[16:44] <coz_> racecar56,  oh I see.. i hope you like ubuntu then :)
[16:44] <racecar56> coz_, and so did my other one similar to this, which it ran 8.10 fine
[16:44] <racecar56> coz_, yes i do, my first linux was xandros 3
[16:44] <racecar56> coz_, kde 3.3.0
[16:44] <racecar56> coz_, i didnt know _HARDLY ANYTHING_ about linux back then
[16:45] <racecar56> coz_, in fact i didn't know how to use the terminal
[16:45] <racecar56> coz_, nowadays i can't live without it
[16:45] <coz_> racecar56,  and now you are liking it right?
[16:45] <ed_debian> racecar56, I remember those days for myself as well
[16:45] <tim1> Does anyone know why a Dell Vostro A90 booted from the 9.04 usb image would have no sound?
[16:45] <racecar56> coz_, i don't use xandros anymore, but yeah
[16:45] <racecar56> coz_, the disc is still around
[16:46] <racecar56> coz_, i have it on a vm just cause i wanted to mess around (it's not on this oldie though, it's really old)
[16:46] <coz_> racecar56,  well... I think most people who move over to linux learn to appriciate the power they have with their systems  as they learn  commands etc
[16:46] <racecar56> coz_, intel celeron
[16:46] <racecar56> coz_, yea
[16:46] <try2free> hoofman: i am not logged in
[16:46] <racecar56> coz_, i didn't know what linux was nor did i know the advantages over windows
[16:46] <Likan> Hello guys
[16:46] <racecar56> coz_, i eventually slipped back to window$
[16:46] <coz_> racecar56,  there you go :)
[16:46] <racecar56> coz_, then time -FLEW-
[16:47] <racecar56> and there i was, at a forum, it's july 2008
[16:47] <Likan> I'm a real noob on ubuntu 9.04 and I'm running it om my old P4 computer
[16:47] <coz_> racecar56,  I use both and today most people understand that every OS  has its place
[16:47] <racecar56> Likan, lol
[16:47] <Likan> What?
[16:47] <racecar56> coz_, then i saw someones display pic, it was the ubuntu logo
[16:47] <racecar56> coz_, i had no idea on earth about uit
[16:48] <racecar56> coz_, i studied -hard- and eventually found ubuntu
[16:48] <coz_> racecar56,  cool
[16:48] <racecar56> coz_, i then downloaded it, it was 8.04.0
[16:48] <coz_> guys I have to break here  for a short time  be right back
[16:48] <racecar56> coz_, i burned it to a cd, i booted it, and i _LOVED_ it
[16:48] <ed_debian> racecar56, That wasn't that long ago huh
[16:48] <racecar56> ed_debian, i know...
[16:48] <Likan> Is there any driver for my old Geforce MX to get Ubuntu to run smoother?
[16:48] <beehive> holy crap
[16:48] <racecar56> ed_debian, i haven't been using linux for a long time
[16:48] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivers
[16:49] <beehive> i just ran from the cops
[16:49] <racecar56> ed_debian, but i learned how to use it, fast
[16:49] <jrib> !ot | beehive
[16:49] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivers
[16:49] <Wixicy> Thanks a lot kalmi_
[16:49] <Wixicy> Finally got it working
[16:49] <beehive> this is an ubuntu support ?
[16:49] <Wixicy> Can't belive it how easy it actually was
[16:49] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivers
[16:49] <Myrtti> beehive: offtopic discussion is elsewhere
[16:49] <beehive> i pulled into an empty lot
[16:50] <beehive> you guys are fags
[16:50] <bazhang> beehive, stop that
[16:50] <racecar56> banhammer
[16:50] <Wixicy> this is not 4chan
[16:51] <racecar56> ban!
[16:51] <racecar56> =>
[16:51] <ska>     in 9.04, how do I give a user sudo access? No user has access now.
[16:51] <jrib> ska: reboot into recovery mode and add the user to the "admin" group
[16:51] <ed_debian> ska easy!  edit the sudoers file
[16:52] <shubbar> can three chat on Pidgin?
[16:52] <ed_debian> ska, but you have to use the vidsudo program to do it (and you need be root)
[16:52] <Wixicy> Alright, ive heard 9.04 is buggy. What do you guys recommend using for a laptop. 8.10 or 9.04?
[16:52] <jrib> Wixicy: 9.04...
[16:52] <racecar56> Wixicy, 9.04
[16:52] <racecar56> Wixicy, 8.10 sucks compared to 9.04
[16:52] <ska> ed_debian: not possible if I don't have any sudo access. I  can edit the sudoers file by hand
[16:52] <racecar56> Wixicy, 8.10 is slowmo
[16:52] <jrib> Wixicy: only reason not to use the latest stable release is if you go with LTS imo
[16:53] <Wixicy> racecar56, the laptop isn that powerful. just 512MB ram
[16:53] <ska> jrib: recovery mode doesn't work if you dont have sudo
[16:53] <racecar56> Wixicy, notice: 9.04 uses ext3 by default, USE EXT4 WHEN POSSIBLE!
[16:53] <mmm4m5m> help please: Audio/sound not working. Can't fix it. It is: ubuntu 8.04, "Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller". Please help or hint
[16:53] <ed_debian> ska, open a terminal and type "su"
[16:53] <jrib> ska: yes it does
[16:53] <ed_debian> ska, does that work?
[16:53] <lvlefisto> shubbar: try #pidgin
[16:53] <frog_> in which pccket can i find mkfs.ntfs?
[16:53] <racecar56> Wixicy, uhh.... i have an equally bad comp and im chatting with u know
[16:53] <ska> ed_debian: not sure yet. I'm in the recovery disk , shell
[16:53] <racecar56> Wixicy, *now
[16:53] <ed_debian> ska, DO NOT try to edit the sudoers file without visudo and without root access
[16:53] <racecar56> Wixicy, it came with 512 mb BUT i upgraded it to 1gb
[16:54] <racecar56> Wixicy, a while ago
[16:54] <Wixicy> racecar56, is it more power efficient too?
[16:54] <newby> Hellou =)
[16:54] <racecar56> Wixicy, minimum requirement for 9.04 is 156 mb and yes
[16:54] <shubbar> lvlefisto, thanks
[16:54] <racecar56> Wixicy, *256 mb
[16:54] <ska> ed_debian: Ok, if not, how do I get visudo?
[16:54] <Wixicy> racecar56, but I am unable to update to 9.04 through update manager
[16:54] <ska> ed_debian: visudo isnt in the recovery disk shell
[16:55] <arthur_> hey I got a question, I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 Notebook Remix, works amazing, but I try and go on a site with Flash chat and a box comes up requesting my cam and mic, clicking on either doesnt do nothing, i can't get rid of this little box, anyone know?
[16:55] <racecar56> Wixicy, it's called a clean install
[16:55] <jrib> ska: if you have a root shell now, just add the user to the admin group
[16:55] <newby> I want to ask something befor I start to install ubuntu on my laptop
[16:55] <Wixicy> racecar56, bah, you've convinced me already
[16:55] <racecar56> Wixicy, after all, 4.10 to 8.xx use ext3
[16:55] <Wixicy> lol
[16:55] <jrib> newby: just ask
[16:55] <ed_debian> ska, Boot into your normal system.  I am pretty sure you can su and 99% sure that visudo is installed by default
[16:55] <trancefat> Hi all, is there a audio wav batch converter utility for converting wav files from 48khz to 44.1khz?
[16:55] <racecar56> Wixicy, ext4 is l33t
[16:55] <Wixicy> but i am 3l33t
[16:55] <jrib> ed_debian: you can't su by default on ubuntu, the root account is locked
[16:55] <ska> jrib: the admin group entry is missing from the bottom of /etc/sudoers
[16:55] <newby> is it poible to install from a flash drive?
[16:56] <jrib> ska: why?
[16:56] <Floops> when adding users to sudo... does it give them all root right without them having to use sudo command ot root again
[16:56] <ed_debian> try what jrib says (but that's a ghetto way of doing it)
[16:56] <racecar56> ed_debian, however it's possible to unlock itt
[16:56] <Myrtti> !usb | newby
[16:56] <racecar56> ed_debian, i know how
[16:56] <jrib> ed_debian: it's not...
[16:56] <newby> i have no cd or dvd but a flashdrive
[16:56] <ska> jrib: not sure.
[16:56] <racecar56> jrib, oh yes it is
[16:56] <jrib> ska: that makes no sense.  Are you using ubuntu?
[16:56] <arthur_> newbee got netbook?
[16:56] <phR0Zen> frog_, ntfsprogs, I presume
[16:56] <newby> yes
[16:56] <frog_> phR0Zen: thank you very much
[16:56] <ed_debian> jrib, What doesn't make sense?
[16:57] <arthur_> look for Ubuntu Notebook Remix, it rocks
[16:57] <newby> cheking the link :)
[16:57] <jrib> ed_debian: that ska has no idea why the admin line in his sudoers is missing
[16:57] <arthur_> newby, it is specifically designed for Aspire one and Eee like pcs
[16:57] <trancefat> Hi all, how do i know if i have perl installed?
[16:57] <jrib> trancefat: you have perl installed
[16:57] <phoenix2> hi is there a softwareraid installer within the installer in ubuntu? thx..
[16:57] <ska> jrib: I was going to add the user to the admin group (there is no admin group now). and then add the line to the bottom of the sudoers file.
[16:57] <nano404> Should I format the SWAP partition?
[16:57] <newby> is tha sem like desctop edition just optimased for laptops?
[16:58] <ed_debian> jrib, Did he say that?
[16:58] <jrib> ska: a default ubuntu install has the admin group and that line in sudoers.  Are you using ubunut?
[16:58] <jrib> ed_debian: yes.  Read the scrollback
[16:58] <ed_debian> ska,  have you even seen your sudoers file?
[16:58] <newby> ok so not for me
[16:58] <newby> i have an hp
[16:58] <trancefat> jrib: k, thanks.... i m looking for a audio converter from 48k to 44.1k and one i found needs perl
[16:58] <ska> jrib: i installed from a special LPIA version of 9.04
[16:58] <nano404> ahhh, nvm, I cant
[16:58] <Joeseph> I was backing up all my data for a switch to ext4. When I copied all my data back onto my original partition, I wanted it in the root of the hard drive. (/)   unfortunately, It is now in /media ..... Is there any way I can delete the folder without deleteing the contents inside, or without moving the contents?  Would I have to use cut?
[16:58] <phoenix2> hey is there a softwareRAID installer included in the installer for ubuntu? thank you
[16:59] <arthur_> can anyone help me with a little box on flash I get that won't respond?
[17:00] <dusty> Hey guys, I have Ubuntu installed on my laptop.  I decided to try and dual boot with another linux distro.. during installation it asked me whether or not I wanted (it) to modify the boot sector and install a boot menu.  Well I decided not to do this as Ubuntu already does this for me - Question I have now is how do I make grub see my other distro installed so that I can choose it from the menu ?
[17:00] <newby> Thank you all!!! I'l go on from here =)
[17:00] <ed_debian> ska, What have you tried?
[17:00] <jrib> trancefat: ok
[17:00] <newby> See you from The new OS =)
[17:00] <ska> ed_debian: sure. i mounted it in the rescue mode.
[17:00] <ska> ed_debian: I know exactly what it looks like
[17:01] <Axz> whats the command to find out path of a application installed on Ubuntu
[17:01] <disappearedng> How do I find out what version is the apt-get install vlc ?
[17:01] <jrib> Axz: using what information?
[17:01] <dusty> Axz: locate, whatis, whereis, find..
[17:01] <ed_debian> ska, can you su?
[17:01] <ed_debian> (to root)
[17:01] <jrib> disappearedng: apt-cache policy vlc
[17:01] <phoenix2> hey does the ubuntu installer comes with an softwareRAID option?
[17:01] <ska> ed_debian: Nothing yet. I almost edited /etc/sudoers to add the admin line
[17:01] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivers
[17:01] <ska> I will add the user to the "admin" group now.
[17:01] <jonny100> it wont let me install
[17:02] <Axz> jrib, dusty well installed a application but need to add plaugin for it cant find path to the main folder
[17:02] <ed_debian> ska, How are you editing the file?  You must do it as root.
[17:02] <dusty> Guy's how do I get grub to see my other distro
[17:02] <disappearedng> jrib: is there a way that I can install version 1.0 instead of 0.94
[17:02] <dusty> ?
[17:02] <Axz> plugin*
[17:02] <yasasvy> trancefat: sudo apt-get install soundconverter
[17:02] <jrib> disappearedng: check for a ppa with that version of vlc I guess
[17:02] <Zorix> if i added xorg-edgers to my apt sources and then did a full upgrade, how can i revert the changes if i need to?
[17:02] <racecar56> disappearedng, 1.0
[17:02] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivers
[17:02] <racecar56> disappearedng, 1.0's out?
[17:02] <jonny100> please
[17:02] <ska> ed_debian: I found recovery kernel mode. I:m in it now.. i have visudo
[17:02] <jrib> dusty: search grub's documentation for an example of chainloading
[17:03] <jrib> Axz: what application?
[17:03] <ed_debian> ska, you must be root.  Are you root?
[17:03] <jrib> ska: your install is broken if you do not have an admin group
[17:03] <mib_keam3cjh> hi, I don't know much about Linux, but I have an old PC that I installed Ubuntu onto after creating a partition with a Windows partition manager.  Yesterday, Linux started really screwing up, and so I backed up my data and tried to uninstall it from within Ubuntu, but it kept crashing, so I booted Windows and deleted the Ubuntu partition.  Now, when...
[17:04] <disappearedng> racecar: it's pre-release
[17:04] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivers
[17:04] <mib_keam3cjh> I boot up, it looks for the boot selector that is suposedly still latched to the BIOS.  How to get rid of it?
[17:04] <disappearedng> http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=53587
[17:04] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivers
[17:04] <racecar56> mib_keam3cjh, many, many, many people do this
[17:04] <racecar56> mib_keam3cjh, you forgot to back up the MBR
[17:04] <ska> ed_debian: yea.. i am root.. Adding via visudo
[17:04] <Zorix> anyone here used xorg-edgers?
[17:04] <mib_keam3cjh> Oh... but how do I get rid of it?
[17:04] <racecar56> mib_keam3cjh, go into a windows xp cd and run FIXBOOT and FIXMBR
[17:04] <racecar56> mib_keam3cjh, IF it was windows xp u had
[17:04] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivers
[17:04] <mib_keam3cjh> ok.
[17:05] <disappearedng> hey does anyone know how I could play a file decoded in mlp?
[17:05] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivers
[17:05] <ed_debian> ska, what you want to add is a line exactly like the root one except replace root with the name of the user you want to be able to sudo
[17:05] <Zorix> thought this would be a rather simple question, thanks anyways
[17:05] <ska> ed_debian: in my 8.x sysetm i have a line : %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[17:05] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivers
[17:05] <mib_keam3cjh> Many thanks for help me.
[17:06] <dusty> jrib: I can't do chainloading as the second distro has a separate /boot and / partition... it says I can only chainload if /boot is on the / system ?
[17:06] <jonny100> :'(
[17:06] <ska> ed_debian: after adding user to admin group, it works now.
[17:07] <ed_debian> ska,
[17:07] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivers
[17:07] <jrib> dusty: well if you share /boot between distros, you can just use one grub to load both that way
[17:07] <pancho> hi all
[17:07] <ed_debian> You want to have an accurate sudoers file so each person needs a line in it like this:
[17:07] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivershelp i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivers
[17:07] <pancho> i need help with my sound drivers on ubuntu
[17:07] <ed_debian> username    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[17:07] <ska> ed_debian: yea
[17:07] <ska> ed_debian: seems to work now
[17:07] <dassouki> in outlook we can schedule a meeting by clicking on a contact's name and then finding out their free time slots. as well as i can press new mail and jsut through the corporate addressbook. What are my linux alternatives for such server side systems
[17:07] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivers
[17:07] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivers
[17:07] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my driversc
[17:07] <jonny100> v
[17:07] <dusty> jrib: How the hell would I share /boot on both distros?
[17:07] <FloodBot3> jonny100: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:08] <racecar56> lol he copy + pasted
[17:08] <pancho> my motherboard is this one http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/browse/product+Gigabyte_GAMA78GMS2H?id=6417
[17:08] <racecar56> coulda pressed up, fail
[17:08] <jrib> dusty: have them both use the same partition as /boot.  Have only one take care of grub.
[17:08] <pancho> as one of the reviewers said, the sound is not as loud as on windows
[17:08] <ed_debian> ska, good :)
[17:08] <soulchild> Hi all,... somehow I cannot empty my Trash on Gnome 2.26, I already tried to delete .local/Trash, but there are still files. I don't even get an error message... any ideas ?
[17:08] <dusty> I don't want to do that, seems risky.  Infact what happens when the kernel gets upgraded etc.. I wouldn't like to use an ubuntu kernel with slackware...
[17:09] <ska> ed_debian and jrib thanks.. all works now..
[17:09] <dusty> surely there is a way to do this?
[17:09] <Zorix> jonny100,  your best bet is to google.. most people will not respond here unless you are really lucky
[17:09] <ed_debian> ska, Beware that your sudoers file is incorrect but if it works it works right??
[17:09] <jonny100> ty
[17:10] <jrib> dusty: you wouldn't use ubuntu kernel with slackware....  I've had both setups: single /boot for all distros and chainloading.  But if it's not possible for you to chainload (I'm not sure why not) according to the documentation you read, then that's the only other option I know of.  Try #grub
[17:10] <j0nas> hola
[17:11] <jonny100> help i need to update my nvidia drivers and it says cannot detect coding so my display is laggy untill i updat my drivers
[17:11] <jrib> !repeat | jonny100
[17:11] <jonny100> ok
[17:11] <ed_debian> jonny100, Yeah sorry johnny but I use ati cards :(
[17:11] <jonny100> ok
[17:11] <jonny100> ty
[17:11] <chataaa> off topic: hey, what're some sites that show consumer products opened up?
[17:11] <jrib> !ot | chataaa
[17:12] <ed_debian> chataaa, ??  Why would you even ask us that?
[17:12] <ska> ed_debian: ok. its setup like my older system.. 8.04 i think.
[17:12] <ska> ed_debian: shoult it be a named users instead of a group?
[17:12] <ed_debian> ska, I don't understand your question.
[17:12] <ska> ed_debian: why is my sudoers file incorrect?
[17:13] <ska> ed_debian: I have mine setup to allow all users in "admin" group sudo access.
[17:13] <pancho> um
[17:13] <pancho> can someone help me with my sound issue?
[17:13] <ed_debian> ska, You should have a line for each of your users that want to sudo in your sudoers file.  Using a group is sort of a workaround.  Having these lines in sudoers is the correct way.
[17:14] <ed_debian> example: ska    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[17:14] <ed_debian> Will allow ska to sudo
[17:14] <shai4321> The sound on my system is too weak, and I can't seem to find any player for Linux that includes an equalizer... anyone know of anything?
[17:14] <jrib> ed_debian: it's not a workaround, stop saying that.  It's a supported way to manage who can sudo and it's actually the default way most distros do it
[17:14] <ska> ed_debian: ok. not a problem. I understand. I just looked at my older system and it was setup in a different way..
[17:14] <ska> ed_debian: i understand sudo well enough to see this .. thanks.
[17:14] <ed_debian> jrib, ?I guess I have just never seen a distro handle it that way.  I apologize.
[17:15] <jrib> ed_debian: take ubuntu....
[17:15] <pancho> sound problems here...
[17:15] <ed_debian> ska, (pay attention to jrib, has makes a valid point)
[17:15] <ed_debian> he makes*
[17:16] <shai4321> I set the volume control to the maximum setting but the volume is still too weak, and I know it can get much better because it was when I had XP on this computer.
[17:17] <utilamand> 1
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[17:17] <shai4321> It's my only problem so far, so if you can solve it i'll be set
[17:18] <Slart> shai4321: what sound hardware are you using?
[17:18] <shai4321> It's a laptop, a built in Realtek card
[17:19] <N1ghtCrawler> Hello, where do i find the documentation for what filename decribes what commandline option for pureftpd?
[17:19] <TerrorByte> salut
[17:19] <Slart> shai4321: it's probably a driver issue if you've tried all the sliders in the mixer.. sometimes you can set parameters for the driver
[17:19] <pancho_> my sound is not as loud like on windows xp
[17:19] <colblood> im not able to install nvidia drivers, setup says ERROR: unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module. This is after updating the kernel
[17:20] <Slart> shai4321: try googling for the sound chip name and model..see if anyone has similar problems.. make a bug report if you can't find a solution
[17:20] <daz3d> !info ubottu
[17:20] <Slart> !bot
[17:20] <ska> For some reason, icewm doesn't show up in synaptic, but it shows in apt-cache
[17:20] <daz3d> oh right.. thanks
[17:20] <shai4321> I'll try, thanks
[17:21] <bullgard4> Does Empathy 2.26.1 produce sound events by default or not?
[17:21] <Slart> ska: I thought synaptic and apt used the same database.. icevm shows up for me in synaptic
[17:21] <Slart> !info icewm
[17:22] <daz3d> fluxbox ftw!
[17:22] <ed_debian> ska, apt-cache I believe shows you what's in your system's package manager cache.  Not what's in the repos?
[17:23] <Slart> ed_debian: same with synaptic.. they both search the metadata for the packages
[17:23] <Slart> ed_debian: of course, neither knows what is in the repos.. they only have an old snapshot of the repo contents
[17:23] <ed_debian> nevermind then
[17:24] <Slart> old = dt > 0   :)
[17:25] <zealiod> an any one recommend a decent open source ICAP server that works well with Squid?
[17:25] <nano404> damn
[17:25] <nano404> MBR error
[17:26] <KIllaDro> can any one help me, i got 9.04 and i am trying to watch videos on youtube but it only plays the first 2 seconds
[17:26] <ska> ed_debian: Normally apt and synaptic will agree
[17:27] <ska> icewm should show up in Synaptic if it shows is apt
[17:27] <amikrop> Does clive fetch the HQ (High Quality) version of the video, if it is available?
[17:27] <ed_debian> sudo apt-get update?
[17:28] <Appraiser> irc.efnet.nl
[17:28] <daz3d> i'm not quite sure if this question makes sense but how would you determine the drivers installed?
[17:29] <Slart> daz3d: you can check kernel modules with lsmod
[17:29] <Slart> daz3d: I guess that's what most stuff that you'd call a driver would be implemented
[17:29] <robinbones> I am restoring a ubuntu backup to a new system, the old system was using hdb, the new one sda. where do I need to make updates other than the fstab and grub?
[17:29] <Penfold> so - if I swap motherboards/processors on my Jaunty server from a 32but CPU to a 64, can I update without a complete reinstall?
[17:30] <Slart> Penfold: yes.. but you can't upgrade to a 64bit version of ubuntu.. but your 64bit processor will run the 32bit version
[17:30] <KIllaDro> i am having a problem downloading, it says i do not have enough disk space can some one help?
[17:30] <daz3d> Slart: so i guess those listed are what i need if ever i install ubuntu without gui?
[17:30] <munch13> KillaDro: what are you trying to download?
[17:30] <Slart> KIllaDro: run df -h to see free space on your drives
[17:31] <munch13> KillaDro: And where?
[17:31] <Penfold> Slart: that'll do, TBH. All I want is rid of the crappy VIA chipset ethernet on the current board
[17:31] <KIllaDro> any thing, you tube wont even download video's
[17:31] <Therry> hello people
[17:31] <Slart> daz3d: I think it lists all modules available.. man lsmod for more info
[17:32] <daz3d> ok got it
[17:32] <daz3d> thanks
[17:32] <h2otox> hello, can anybody help me getting a jar file to run from the applications menu?
[17:32] <Therry>  :o
[17:32] <jrib> h2otox: create a launcher with the command you use to run it from the terminal
[17:32] <Slart> Penfold: linux/ubuntu is pretty tolerant with switching hardware.. as long as you're on the same architecture.. ie you'll get problems if you try switching from ppc to x86 or similar
[17:32] <bullgard4> Does Empathy 2.26.1 produce sound events by default or not?
[17:32] <h2otox> it says it can't start child process
[17:33] <h2otox> i can only right click it an open with java
[17:33] <jrib> h2otox: have you successfully started it from the terminal?
[17:33] <h2otox> no
[17:33] <h2otox> nautilus
[17:33] <KIllaDro> munch, do you have a solution?
[17:33] <greato> hi
[17:33] <greato> i need help
[17:33] <jrib> h2otox: ok then, start it from a terminal
[17:33] <ed_debian> h2otox, You need to run "java file.jar" or something to that effect to get it to work in cli
[17:33] <KiRiLoS> a package(KdenLive) is stuck(I hard restarted my pc while i was installing it) anyway to remove it or re-install it?Thanks
[17:33] <h2otox> mom
[17:33] <Slart> !ask | greato
[17:34] <greato> I have connected speaker but how to know if it is working in Ubuntu
[17:34] <johnny__> ALGUM BRASILEIRO AIII
[17:34] <jrib> !br | johnny__
[17:34] <ed_debian> greato, Does it make noise?
[17:34] <Slart> !br | johnny__ .. and lose the caps
[17:34] <myself> i need the guide on how to mount your NTFS harddrive at startup
[17:34] <myself> can someone help
[17:34] <UUB1> Help :( I extended my laptops monitor to my television and after I unhooked it, my screen is not filled completely
[17:34] <myself> !ntfs
[17:34] <johnny__> thanks
[17:34] <UUB1> The resolution was not changed
[17:34] <ed_debian> myself, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[17:35] <greato> Hello! I connected speaker , my OS is Ubuntu but how to know if it is working
[17:35] <ska> I have several repositories labeled "restricted" in my sources.list. Would that cause icewm to not show?
[17:35] <marcosRz> thanks for you guys for interfering into X project and turning into shit
[17:35] <flintwingel> UUB1: hvae you tried System->Preferences->Display on the menu?
[17:35] <marcosRz> fuck ubuntu
[17:35] <FloodBot3> marcosRz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:35] <bazhang> marcosRz, watch the language
[17:35] <ed_debian> greato, When you play music does the speaker work?  Is this what you're asking?
[17:35] <greato> hello! I asked question 2 times but no one replying
[17:36] <LjL> marcosRz: thank you for highlighting me repeatedly while i was reading stuff - now stop. thanks.
[17:36] <UUB1> yeah, the only thing i can change is the resolution which doesnt help, ubuntu just isnt using the entire monitor
[17:36] <greato> I don't have music yet
[17:36] <ed_debian> greato, I AM ANSWERING YOU
[17:36] <UUB1> using 9.04
[17:36] <colblood> im not able to install nvidia drivers, setup says ERROR: unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module. This is after updating the kernel
[17:37] <flintwingel> UUB1: are you sure the alternative output is disabled?
[17:37] <lupine_85> colblood: what kernel version are you on now?
[17:37] <colblood> 2.6.30rc7 i think
[17:37] <wildc4rd> Just about to set up a box as a web server, got jaunty as a desktop box, does it make a suitable server system?
[17:37] <lupine_85> well, no wonder
[17:37] <lupine_85> the nvidia kernel module won't build against that
[17:37] <myself> so I use psydm to mount my harddrive on startup in linux, the problem is that my torrent clients still aren't reading the files automatically from the directory on that NTFS partition, saying they aren't there--how come
[17:37] <lupine_85> not until the nvidia developers release a new one
[17:37] <myself> its ubuntu
[17:37] <Slart> wildc4rd: if you're looking for something long term stable there are LTS ..
[17:38] <Slart> !lts | wildc4rd
[17:38] <N1ghtCrawler> is there any proper documentation to pure-ftpd-wrapper at all!?
[17:38] <h2otox> oh ok just solved my problem, i forgot to write "java -jar"
[17:38] <Slart> wildc4rd: but jaunty will work too
[17:38] <UUB1> flintwingel: I have Display Prefrences open and I don't see an alternative output, is there another way to change it?
[17:38] <wildc4rd> its hardly mission critical stuff, jaunty seems solid to be honest
[17:39] <Slart> wildc4rd: then go with it =)
[17:39]  * gukk_devel is away: Zur Zeit nicht da.
[17:39] <flintwingel> wildc4rd: the only practical difference between a server and desktop is that server don't usually have a graphical interface
[17:39] <colblood> what kernel do i need then?
[17:39] <qr> What is the replacement keycombo for ctrl+alt+backspace in 9.04?
[17:39] <meoblast001> how do you fix a broken apt-get?
[17:40] <wildc4rd> I may go with gnome, at least to start with, still fairly new to terminal
[17:40] <jrib> qr: does not exist
[17:40] <meoblast001> broken dpkg
[17:40] <cek92> Some one play Wifi YU GI OH 5DS???+
[17:40] <bazhang> !dontzap > qr
[17:40] <kBang> qr dontzap -d, you will need to get dontzap via apt
[17:40] <qr> jrib: really? I was sure I read about one a while ago...
[17:40] <lvlefisto> ¿is there a good tool for software design? UML oriented would be nice.
[17:40] <Slart> meoblast001: "apt-get -f install" might fix some things
[17:40] <flintwingel> wildc4rd: so if you're happy with jaunty as a desktop then use it as a web server as well
[17:40] <bazhang> !ot > cek92
[17:40] <myself> !pysdm
[17:40] <KiRiLoS> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/184398/ The error i get after my pc crashed while i was installing kdenlive,how can i re-install/remove it ?
[17:40] <myself> noob!
[17:40] <meoblast001> Slart: Errors were encountered while processing: cupswrappermfc5440cn
[17:41] <flintwingel> UUB1: is there any indication in Display Preferences that you've go 2 monitors
[17:41] <Slart> meoblast001: hmm.. tried "sudo apt-get remove cupswrappermfc5440cn" ?
[17:41] <jrib> qr: okay maybe.  I'm not aware of one though
[17:41] <meoblast001> Slart: oh ok... now i just did.. thought it was talking about the LPD filter i just installed
[17:42]  * meoblast001 should read more
[17:42] <UUB1> flintwingel: no I just se my monitor, it says Laptop 15" and there is no other monitor
[17:42] <qr> jrib: it's alt+sysreq+k now (ubottu knew)
[17:42] <jrib> qr: ah my mistake, thanks for taht info
[17:42] <flintwingel> UUB1: start a terminal session and type xrandr
[17:42] <robinbones> I am trying to install a package via aptitude and I get a 404, how do I remove that server from my list that aptitude uses
[17:42] <Slart> mm.. alt+sysreq+k...I can feel the fingers itching now.. must resist... =)
[17:43] <h2otox> @jrib I tryed the Ubuntu Live CD earlier today before I finally installed Ubuntu and could see all windows computers on the network
[17:43] <h2otox> now after I've installed it somehow the windows computers don't appear anymore
[17:44] <unop> robinbones, update aptitude first to see if the problem exists.
[17:44] <h2otox> what do I have to do in order to see all shares again
[17:44] <flintwingel> UUB1: does xrandr show you 2 screens
[17:44] <UUB1> flintwingel: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 1536 VGA disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) LVDS connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 331mm x 207mm 1024x768       60.0*  800x600        60.3  640x480        59.9  TV disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[17:45] <flintwingel> UUB1: try xrandr --output TV --off
[17:45] <anom01y> anyone here run xubuntu ?
[17:45] <Aliasa> how can i hack the pc of my university :P ,any HElp ?
[17:45] <greato> My speaker not working in Ubuntu
[17:45] <Slart> !anyone | anom01y
[17:45] <bazhang> Aliasa, stop
[17:45] <colblood> what kernel do i need then to install nvidia on kernel 2.6.30rc7?
[17:45] <Aliasa> whyt?
[17:45] <Slart> Aliasa: wrong channel... wrong idea.. basically just wrong
[17:45] <KiRiLoS> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/184398/ The error i get after my pc crashed while i was installing kdenlive,how can i re-install/remove it ?
[17:45] <robinbones> unop: I ran update, and I am getting the same 404 error
[17:46] <bazhang> Aliasa, you were asked to stop before. last warning
[17:46] <Aliasa> why rong?
[17:46] <unop> robinbones,  ok, make note of the repository and disable it in "software sources"
[17:46] <anom01y> what to the advanced settings in sessions and startup do ? there is Launch KDE services and Launch GNOME services, not sure what they do or if they are important ?
[17:46] <Slart> Aliasa: in most parts of the world unathorized access to computer systems is illegal.. and as such it won't be discussed here... see !coc or !piracy
[17:46] <UUB1> flintwingel: It didn't do anything and there was no output
[17:47] <robinbones> unop: is that in a file, I am in a chrooted system trying to reinstall gub
[17:47] <Aliasa> ok
[17:47] <flintwingel> UUB1: is it an nvidia card?
[17:47] <unop> robinbones, it would be in /etc/apt/sources.list  or one of the files in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory
[17:48] <unop> robinbones,  something like.   grep -inHR "keyword" /etc/apt/   # would highlight the file
[17:48] <UUB1> fintwingel: it is an intel graphics, I know jaunty doesn't work to well with them but it didn't happen until after i disconnected the tv
[17:48] <BromaxSux> were there any important updates for jaunty in the past few days?
[17:48] <Slart> BromaxSux: I haven't seen any that I can recall
[17:49] <BromaxSux> Slart: thank you
[17:49] <KiRiLoS> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/184398/ The error i get after my pc crashed while i was installing kdenlive,how can i re-install/remove it ?
[17:49] <flintwingel> UUB1: try xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1280x1024 --output TV --off
[17:50] <Slart> KiRiLoS: does "sudo apt-get clean" make those errors go away?
[17:50] <KiRiLoS> Slart, nope,when i try to reinstall or remove kdenlive i get the same error
[17:50] <daz3d> is it possible to add like some sort of ascii splash screen when opening up the terminal?
[17:51] <flintwingel> UUB1: sorry... 1280x1024 is not your max latop resolution
[17:51] <jjibn> hi all if my ubuntu was broken,how could I "enter in" again
[17:51] <KiRiLoS> Slart, even with -f flag
[17:51] <Rigongia> jjbn : what do you mean by "broken" ?
[17:51] <UUB1> flintwingel: xrandr: cannot find mode 1280x1024
[17:51] <flintwingel> UUB1: put whatever your max laptop screen resolution is in instead of the 1280x1024
[17:51] <RaceCondition> can I burn an Ubuntu netinstall CD onto a DVD-R instead of a CD-R?
[17:51] <jjibn> the system was down
[17:51] <sere84> can someone help...im using binary drivers nvidia-glx-180 and through tv out i can only get 1024 x 768 ...on ubuntu 904
[17:51] <Slart> KiRiLoS: try "dpkg -r kdenlive"
[17:52] <unop> RaceCondition, sure
[17:52] <Rigongia> RaceCondition : sure you can
[17:52] <RaceCondition> unop: and will it work, too? :P
[17:52] <unop> RaceCondition, what do you think? :)
[17:52] <RaceCondition> just to be sure you're not pulling my leg :P
[17:52] <RaceCondition> some people are really evil on IRC these days
[17:52] <unop> RaceCondition, those people don't hang about in #ubuntu
[17:52] <unop> :)
[17:52] <RaceCondition> cool
[17:52] <RaceCondition> I should hang out more in #ubuntu then
[17:53] <KiRiLoS> Slart, i just did,says it removes some stuff,the i update && upgrade says that it needs to install 5 packages,i agree and get the same error
[17:53] <jjibn> what can I do?do I have to re-intall it
[17:53] <RaceCondition> OK.. anyway, what I need to do is to make a copy of a 160GB disk to a 320GB newer and faster disk while the first one is not being written so. so that's why I'll use an Ubuntu LiveCD.. but how do I determine safely which disk is which so I wouldn't f*** everything up?
[17:54] <Rigongia> jjbn : it depends on what you mean by "broken" ... anyway usually you can access your datas using a LiveCD to boot
[17:54] <Slart> KiRiLoS: ok.. try this "sudo dpkg -r kdenlive; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get install kdenlive"
[17:54] <Laurenceb> hi, anyone ehre used dia?
[17:54] <Laurenceb> I want to rotate an object
[17:54] <LinuxNIT> is there a way to stop the little window from popping up that shows your volume level when you hit the change volume keys?
[17:54] <UUB1> flintwingel: The resolution will change but ubuntu still isnt using the entire screen
[17:54] <Slart> RaceCondition: fdisk -l will give you a list of drives.. also gparted will let you see which is which
[17:54] <KiRiLoS> Slart, dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove kdenlive, only the config files of which are on the system.  Use --purge to remove them too.
[17:54] <Slart> RaceCondition: then you can use ddrescue or something to copy
[17:54] <RaceCondition> Slart: nice, thanks
[17:55] <RaceCondition> Slart: how does ddrescue differ from dd?
[17:55] <Slart> KiRiLoS: ok, that was kind of expected.. no other errors?
[17:55] <KiRiLoS> Slart, nope,should i use --purge ?
[17:55] <Slart> RaceCondition: I'm not sure but I think you'll get problems trying to use dd when the sizes dont match
[17:55] <RaceCondition> Slart: I don't have bad sectors on the original drive or anything, so I'm not recovering anything... just upgrading my HD
[17:55] <Slart> KiRiLoS: nah.. I don't think that will be needed
[17:56] <RaceCondition> Slart: I see, I thought it was OK, but can ddrecover handle drives that have OS X on them as well?
[17:56] <Mylesmadness> would this link still work for the newest ubuntu? http://sampbar.com/2009/04/broadcom-bcm4318-ubuntu-intrepid/
[17:56] <Slart> RaceCondition: it's just that ddrescue might be able to copy from smaller to larger drives.. afaik dd cant do that
[17:56] <flintwingel> UUB1: sorry, I'm out of ideas... the only time I've seen ubuntu not use the full screen on a laptop xrandr has been able to fix it. Does this condition survive a reboot? Can you disable the TV output in the PC Bios?
[17:56] <Slart> RaceCondition: but I'm not sure about this.. if you can make dd do the copying it should be alright
[17:56] <RaceCondition> Slart: dd will just stop when it's run out of source bytes, right? so I'll just have to resize partitions to fill up the whole HD afterwards, no?
[17:57] <Slart> RaceCondition: that sounds like it might work, yes
[17:57] <KiRiLoS> Slart, any other ideas ?
[17:57] <RaceCondition> although I could use ddrecover as well, was I sure it handles OS X partition tables well...
[17:57] <Slart> KiRiLoS: these other 5 packages it wanted to install.. what packages was it?
[17:57] <Slart> KiRiLoS: you could try doing the dpkg -r <package> on those too
[17:58] <UUB1> flintwingel: Yeah I have restarted a few times, I haven't changed the bios settings so I will give that a shot, well thanks for your help anyway :)
[17:58] <sere> dir
[17:59] <Shortguy109> Does anyone know why when i try to record my guitar usin a USB and jackd that it just gives me a buzzing noise when i start the JACK server?
[17:59] <Frijolie> anyone a l33t scripter? I need a file renaming script which removes the first 6 characters of a filename
[17:59] <kerebrus> Hello, What file do you edit your video settings in?
[17:59] <jrib> kerebrus: be more specific
[17:59] <RaceCondition> isn't there a mininstall or netinstall CD for Ubuntu?
[17:59] <jrib> Frijolie: man rename
[17:59] <RaceCondition> like 150MB or 250MB or so, instead of the full 700
[17:59] <Rigongia> Frijolie : a single filename or each filename in a list ?
[18:00] <jjibn> oh£¬I changed some data in the xorg. conf to "I don't how to discrible it right"just let my monitor show a littlemore wide.
[18:00] <ed_debian> RaceCondition, It is commonly referred to as the Alternate Install CD
[18:00] <Frijolie> I have a folder with ~200 files with the date appended to the file name (e.g. 090514)
[18:00] <kerebrus> jrib: there is a config file for setting up video settings under x
[18:00] <RaceCondition> ed_debian: oh, I see :P
[18:00] <bazhang> !minimal | RaceCondition
[18:00] <Frijolie> 090514 <filename>
[18:00] <jjibn> and maybe the data I changed is out of what my new monitor could support,so after I re-started I can't "entered into" the system again
[18:00] <unop> Frijolie,    rename 's/.{6}//' *.txt
[18:00] <RaceCondition> bazhang: does it have enough stuff to run Linux in LiveCD mode or smth?
[18:01] <greato> Help Me My I am not able to listen any song
[18:01] <jrib> kerebrus: what video settings?
[18:01] <bazhang> RaceCondition, its a 9mb iso
[18:01] <RaceCondition> oh
[18:01] <RaceCondition> what about something a bit larger that I could use to make a copy of a HD?
[18:01] <Frijolie> unop, would that loop through each file in the folder?
[18:01] <bazhang> !info clonezilla
[18:01] <kerebrus> jrib: What driver the computer should use for the video card
[18:01] <Rigongia> unop : thanks for the trick, i'll keep that in mind ! :)
[18:01] <KiRiLoS> Slart, it seems that i managed to remove the most packages that used to give me th errors,i only got 2 now : kdenlive-data
[18:01] <KiRiLoS>  libmlt++1
[18:01] <unop> Frijolie, well, in that case it would work on all .txt files .. so change the glob appropriately for your use case.
[18:01] <jrib> !nvidia > KiRiLoS
[18:01] <jrib> !nvidia > kerebrus
[18:02] <Rigongia> Frijolie : it uses regular expressions and operates on all filenames that match
[18:02] <Slart> KiRiLoS: ok.. those couldn't be removed?
[18:02] <Frijolie> ah, reg ex ...I don't know much about it
[18:02] <KiRiLoS> Slart, nope,errors...
[18:02] <Frijolie> well lemme try it and see
[18:02] <Slart> KiRiLoS: pastebin?
[18:02] <Slart> !paste | KiRiLoS
[18:02] <Frijolie> if it's that easy I'll feel stupid
[18:03] <unop> Frijolie, Rigongia -- well, rename is not limited to regular expressions .. any perl code will work
[18:03] <petsounds> hello, what is software for recovery deleted file in ubuntu? thank you
[18:03] <jrib> petsounds: how did you delete it?
[18:03] <zealiod> an any one recommend a decent open source ICAP server that works well with Squid?
[18:03] <Slart> petsounds: search in synaptic for "recovery".. there are many
[18:03] <KiRiLoS> Slart, http://paste.ubuntu.com/184410/
[18:03] <Frijolie> unop, that will work in a terminal..or as part of a script?
[18:03] <petsounds> jrib : just press delete key
[18:03] <unop> Frijolie, anything that works at the terminal - should work in a script, right?
[18:04] <sysdoc> petsounds, photorec
[18:04] <jefinc> !bluefish
[18:04] <jrib> petsounds: it should be in your trash then
[18:04] <Rigongia> so they say, unop :P
[18:04] <Frijolie> unop, yeah I guess that's right
[18:04] <Guest31019> hi
[18:04] <KiRiLoS> Slart, btw i get this,if it helps : http://paste.ubuntu.com/184411/
[18:05] <petsounds> sysdoc : can i recovery audio file with photorec?
[18:05] <Rigongia> where should i ask about a recording problem with Skype ?
[18:05] <unop> Frijolie,  another way.  rename '$_ = substr $_, 6 ' *.txt
[18:05] <Slart> KiRiLoS: ah.. do that.. or that errors out too?
[18:05] <petsounds> jrib : i already clean the trash bin
[18:05] <Frijolie> unop, that first one worked! perfect! Thanks
[18:05] <jrib> petsounds: then use your backups
[18:05] <KiRiLoS> Slart, errors too,do you want me to pastebin the error ?
[18:05] <jrib> !recover > petsounds
[18:05] <Frijolie> unop, now if you have more than one file extension?
[18:05] <Slart> KiRiLoS: sure
[18:06] <Frijolie> unop, run it twice and change the ext? or can you append the regex?
[18:06] <KiRiLoS> Slart, http://paste.ubuntu.com/184413/
[18:06] <unop> Frijolie,  you can use * to match all files(directories included)  or do something like.    rename '...' *.{txt,avi,mpg}   # to match .txt, .avi and .mpg
[18:06] <Slart> KiRiLoS: you could try dpkg -r --force-all <packagename>    I'm not sure if it will work though
[18:07] <Frijolie> unop, nice! thanks...I guess I've got the next thing for study (reg ex)
[18:07] <KiRiLoS> Slart, i'll give it a shot
[18:07] <Frijolie> I didn't know that it was so powerful
[18:07] <Frijolie> I have started to do it manually and I was killing myself
[18:07] <unop> Frijolie, that last part i.e. globs are not regexes tho .. they're shell patterns
[18:07] <KiRiLoS> Slart, same old error :P
[18:07] <petsounds> thanks
[18:08] <Slart> KiRiLoS: bah..try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdenlive"
[18:08] <Rigongia> nevertheless shell patterns and regex, if correctly used, can be the programmer's equivalent of an atomic bomb :)
[18:08] <Slart> KiRiLoS: perhaps it likes installing better than it likes uninstalling
[18:08] <Frijolie> unop, ah, the terms are gonna kill me
[18:09] <KiRiLoS> Slart, http://paste.ubuntu.com/184416/ unfortunately not :(
[18:09] <jjibn> somebody know if I can't enter into the Ubuntu how can I change the file in the ubuntu
[18:09] <sysdoc> petsounds, yea photorec claims it can recover 180 file types of file extensions
[18:10] <Pafs321> hi! did you guys try kernelcheck?? i'm on jaunty and i'm using kernelcheck lumen, is that a good idea?
[18:10] <Frijolie> unop, how could you add a string on the end of the file name (just before the file ext)?
[18:10] <Slart> KiRiLoS: ah.. but now it's two new packages
[18:10] <petsounds> thanks
[18:10] <lupine_85> ]/win 20
[18:10] <KiRiLoS> Slart, and that's good ? :P
[18:11] <KiRiLoS> Slart, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-dejavu/+bug/200206 it's the same bug ?
[18:11] <Frijolie> unop, rename 's/.{6}// (200?)' *.{txt, odt}
[18:11] <petsounds> sysdoc : can u provide me cmd line to install photorec?
[18:11] <Slart> KiRiLoS: yes.. try .... dpkg -r ttf-dejavu-extra    and dpkg -r swh-plugins
[18:11] <linuxuser1> amule sucks
[18:11] <k1rb_E> how do i cat a file from teh bottom?
[18:11] <k1rb_E> heh
[18:11] <jrib> k1rb_E: tac
[18:11] <WiReaper> where do i get drivers for ati radion x1300/x1500 series? im on ubuntu 9.04
[18:11] <Slart> KiRiLoS: I don't think that bug is affecting you
[18:12] <Slart> !ati | WiReaper
[18:12] <sere> dir
[18:12] <KiRiLoS> Slart, ok i am trying what you said right now
[18:12] <k1rb_E> jrib thx
[18:12] <luca> hi all
[18:12] <flintwingel> k1rb_E: if you mean look at the last lines of a file you need tail
[18:13] <RaceCondition> does ubuntu automatically mount external USB drives in LiveCD mode?
[18:13] <KiRiLoS> Slart, erros for both of the packages.
[18:13] <ed_debian> RaceCondition, I believe it does
[18:13] <RaceCondition> and can it handle USB2.0
[18:13] <RaceCondition> ed_debian: great
[18:13] <luca> I have a problem (srry for my english) after enabling compiz, windows won't maximize properly...any idea?
[18:13] <Rigongia> ciao luca
[18:13] <Slart> KiRiLoS: ok.. try reinstalling them
[18:13] <khamael> is there a dlna client in ubunto repo`s?
[18:13] <luca> ciao :)
[18:13] <greato> hello!
[18:13] <greato> I have problem with my speaker.
[18:13] <greato> No sound coming from my speaker in Ubuntu while it is working on Win XP
[18:13] <nh2> can anyone tell me the iptables commands to block all traffic on a special network adapter except from traffic over port 9100?
[18:14] <Rigongia> in che senso non te le massimizza correttamente ?
[18:14] <KiRiLoS> Slart, That freaking error again(When trying to install em)
[18:14] <luca> me le massimizza a metà schermo :(
[18:14] <bazhang> !it
[18:14] <KiRiLoS> Slart, i think i am gonna break my keyboard :P
[18:14] <Pafs321> hi! did you guys try kernelcheck?? i'm using jaunty and i'm not sure if i should use the kernelcheck stable version or the lumen version
[18:14] <Slart> KiRiLoS: try --reinstall then =)
[18:14] <Blinkiz> I got a strange one here. I have started to use Evolution instead of Thunderbird. Yesterday my IMAP account in Evolution stopped receiving emails. Its not like it is any errors, I just don't see new messages. I can see in my webmail interface that new emails exist, but it does not show up in Evolution. What can be wrong?
[18:14] <Slart> KiRiLoS: and -f
[18:15] <KiRiLoS> Slart, apt-get install -f --reinstall <package> ?
[18:15] <sere> hello
[18:15] <Slart> KiRiLoS: when things go bad apt is like a whiny 4 year old.. this is wrong.. that is wrong.. this isn't quite right.. I don't wanna do that until you've fixed that..
[18:15] <ubuntu> hello
[18:15] <Rigongia> it's really weird, Luca
[18:15] <Slart> KiRiLoS: yup
[18:15] <ed_debian> ubuntu, I like your originality
[18:16] <ubuntu> I'm try to use usbunt in my G5
[18:16] <KiRiLoS> Slart, nope,errors
[18:16] <Rigongia> and without compiz they're maximized correctly ?
[18:16] <luca> yeah, I don't know what to do, I tried disabling every window-effect
[18:16] <KiRiLoS> Slart, it's gotta be a way!
[18:16] <Slart> KiRiLoS: and "sudo dpkg -r --force-all <package>
[18:16] <luca> yessir
[18:16] <ubuntu> *ubuntu
[18:16] <Rigongia> just out of curiosity ... what video card do you have ?
[18:16] <luca> ati hd 4850
[18:16] <Bsims>  I am having a problem konqueror will not keep the prefered application setting, it says konqueror(16535) FileTypesView::save: Entry  "audio/mp3"  is dirty. Saving any ideas?
[18:17] <tuhis-ubu> I have Logitech wave keyboard, how can I use xmodmap to bind the extra keys?
[18:17] <KiRiLoS> Slart, once again errors
[18:17] <Shortguy109> Does anyone know why when i try to record my guitar usin a USB and jackd that it just gives me a buzzing noise when i start the JACK server?
[18:17] <Slart> KiRiLoS: same errors as before?
[18:17] <Rigongia> can it be (i'm wildly guessing) a problem with the video drivers ?
[18:17] <ubuntu> :(
[18:17] <KiRiLoS> Slart, http://paste.ubuntu.com/184421/ seem to be the same ...
[18:17] <luca> oh I spent all day trying to install them :P now they seem to work right
[18:18] <luca> I got catalyst 9.5
[18:18] <Rigongia> any error / warning from X.org ?
[18:18] <sysdoc> Shortguy109, #ardour and #lad are better channels for questions on JACK
[18:18] <greato> How to Install Printer in XP
[18:18] <luca> they seem fine
[18:18] <greato> sorry How to install Printer in Ubuntu
[18:18] <luca> no error/warning
[18:18] <Slart> KiRiLoS: hmm.. and now sudo apt-get remove --purge those packages
[18:18] <frankS2> greato: #windows
[18:18] <Pafs321> hi! i'm using jaunty and i'm not sure if i should use the kernelcheck stable version or the lumen version
[18:18] <frankS2> greato: plug in the USB cord
[18:19] <KiRiLoS> Slart, same freaking error.
[18:19] <Rigongia> greato : parallel or USB printer ?
[18:19] <flintwingel> greato: start with Menu->System->Administration->Printing and take the New option
[18:19] <luca> I've also installed emerald but nothing
[18:20] <Slart> Pafs321: if you've decided not to use the default kernel you probably have a good reason.. no?
[18:20] <myself> hey I'm using pysdm to mount my NTFS drive on startup and some programs are having trouble reading the files, for example Rhythmbox isn't seeing my mp3s on that drive and I had trouble with Transmission reading my torrents, anyone know what option could be doing that even though the drive automatically mounts on startup?
[18:20] <WiReaper> wheres a good place to buy a custom laptop?
[18:20] <Rigongia> Luca : maybe you should pastebin the whole /var/log/xorg.0.log so we can have a look and see if there's any hint about what's going on behind the scenes
[18:20] <jrib> WiReaper: #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[18:21]  * gukk_devel is back.
[18:21] <b> salut
[18:21] <anom01y> is there a way I can search for two keywords at the same time in synaptic.
[18:21] <flintwingel> WiReaper: I understand zareason are good for linux oriented hardware - available in US & Europe
[18:22] <anom01y> I tried typing "music player" in the search, but doesn't work like it should
[18:22] <Pafs321> Slart: my webcam stopped working after i updated my kernel from 2.6.28-11 to 2.6.28-12, so i found some stuff about it here http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=885795&page=7
[18:22] <Slart> KiRiLoS: hmm.. I'm out of ideas then..  a couple of rounds of dpkg -r, apt-get usually gets it right
[18:22] <anom01y> in adept_manager, you could add more filters to narrow your search
[18:22] <sysdoc> Slart, Are you available for a convo on pcopy?
[18:22] <anom01y> not in synaptic though
[18:22] <Slart> sysdoc: never used it, sorry..
[18:22] <luca> ok but how do i do that? (i'm a n00b)
[18:22] <sysdoc> ack
[18:23] <Rigongia> luca : give me a second to check the exact procedure :)
[18:23] <luca> thank you very much
[18:23] <sysdoc> Has anyone used pcopy as a method of cloning a disk?
[18:23] <Slart> Pafs321: and both those kernel flavours support your webcam?
[18:24] <sere> sere hi
[18:24] <Rigongia> Luca : ok, you go to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ and cut & past the content of the /var/log/xorg.0.log file then you post here the address it gives you as an answer and everybody can look at your xorg.0.log
[18:25] <Slart> Pafs321: if they do I suggest going with the kernelcheck stable one
[18:25] <Malicia> hi all
[18:25] <Pafs321> Slart: the first one does, but for some reason it stopped working on the 2.6.28-12, i reinstalled the webcam drivers, but instead of working as the last time, it had a green screen...
[18:26] <Slart> Pafs321: that's not a recommendation though.. I'd still recommend staying with the current default kernel.. that's what is tested and supported... but chosing between two evils
[18:26] <Pafs321> Slart: that's what i thought, but i looked at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=618563
[18:26] <flintwingel> sysdoc: pcopy looks a bit old - I'd be worried about its supporting the latest hardware or filesystems - I have used partimage for this task using a clonezilla boot CD
[18:26] <luca> damn I really got to go now Rigongia, I'm really sorry, but thank for your help!
[18:26] <colblood> what kernel do i need then to install nvidia on kernel 2.6.30rc7?
[18:26] <colblood> no, im on 2.6.29
[18:27] <colblood> but it wont work after upgrading kernel
[18:27] <sere> dir
[18:27] <Pafs321> Slart: yeah i think the same, i don't wanna go for a new version, i wanna keep this one, but, if i don't have my webcam working, i'd have to go back to vista... so.. i think i have to take that risk
[18:27] <sere> clear
[18:27] <xyz-nisse> i just installed ubuntu 9, then i installed the new Amarok, but it wont play my Mp3? why? never had truble playing mp3 in amarok in ubuntu 8
[18:29] <chocobanana> xyz-nisse: you may need to also install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[18:29] <sysdoc> flintwingel, I too looked at partimage but have a limitation because of the amount of available space. As I understand partimage creates an image file that I would then have to restore to the new drive. I was looking to just clone the existing ubuntu install to a new drive.
[18:29] <sere> sup
[18:29] <chocobanana> xyz-nisse: that should provide you with a few commercial codecs that don't come standard since Ubuntu tries to be as free as possible by default
[18:30] <xyz-nisse> thank u chocobanana, ill try it
[18:30] <chocobanana> xyz-nisse: pleasure :)
[18:30] <shiznebit> wonders if the new version of  OGV codec is out ?
[18:31] <E3b> hello all, how can I found the samba password database file?
[18:31] <Wixicy> Hello
[18:32] <Wixicy> If I want ext4, do I have to do this under the installation of Ubuntu 9.04?
[18:32] <Slart> Wixicy: yes.. you can do it later but it's by far easiest during the install
[18:32] <piotrk> join /#gsm
[18:33] <Mylesmadness> Can someone help me getting my wireless working on 9.04?
[18:33] <Rigongia> what wireless card, Mylesmadness ?
[18:34] <Mylesmadness> Rigongia, How would I tell?
[18:34] <Wixicy> Slart, how much SWAP is recommended for 9.04? Is 1.5GB alright?
[18:34] <Wixicy> I have 512MB ram
[18:34] <unop> Wixicy, that's fine
[18:34] <Slart> Wixicy: I would go with 2xRAM.. so 1GB
[18:34] <Malicia> Mylesmadness, lshw
[18:34] <Wixicy> Its a laptoop
[18:35]  * KiRiLoS is away: AFK
[18:35] <Wixicy> Should swap be logical or primary?
[18:35] <unop> Wixicy, it doesn't matter
[18:36] <Wixicy> Oh ok
[18:36] <Wixicy> What about the main drive??
[18:36] <unop> main drive?
[18:36] <unop> you mean the root partition?
[18:36] <Wixicy> Yes, ext4 partition
[18:36] <Wixicy> yap
[18:36] <unop> doesn't matter again
[18:36] <Wixicy> oh
[18:36] <Mylesmadness> Malicia: it doesn't say
[18:36] <Wixicy> ill go for primary then
[18:36] <Malicia> Mylesmadness,  what does it say?
[18:37] <Mylesmadness> Malicia: Should I pastebin the whole output?
[18:37] <koichirose> j #jquery
[18:37] <Rigongia> Mylesmadness : yes, you should pastebin the whole output
[18:37] <Malicia> Mylesmadness, yep
[18:37] <Malicia> :)
[18:38] <Frijolie> unop, point me in the right direction on how to add  ' (200x)' just before the file ext?
[18:38] <Frijolie> my google searches aren't turning up anything
[18:38] <Malicia> Mylesmadness, try iwconfig also
[18:38] <Mylesmadness> Malicia: Rigongia: http://pastebin.com/m215859d8
[18:38] <unop> Frijolie, ' (200x)'  as-is?
[18:39] <Frijolie> unop, well actually ' (2006)' --without quotes so "<filename> (2006).ext"
[18:39] <xp-killer> hi i install flashplugnin nonfree but i still cant read the videos on the website
[18:39] <Mylesmadness> Malicia: Heres iwconfig: http://pastebin.com/m62e9d5
[18:39] <koichirose> hi, does someone know what is the command to run that shutdown screen with 60 seconds timer from the terminal?
[18:39] <chocobanana> xp-killer: did you restart firefox?
[18:39] <unop> Frijolie,  rename 's/(\.[^.]+$)/\(2006\)$1/' *.txt  # should do
[18:40] <xp-killer> konqueror
[18:40] <xp-killer> chocobanana: ^
[18:40] <Rigongia> koichirose : sudo shutdown -h -t 60
[18:40] <odinsbane> greetings
[18:41] <odinsbane> I'm trying to setup a webcam, and I'm not sure where to start.
[18:41] <Frijolie> unop, whoa! that's pretty advanced...i'll try it out again and merge that with that last one which removes the first 6 characters from the filename
[18:41] <kevin01123> xp-killer: In Konqueror, go to Settings-->Configure Konqueror. Find the plugins area somewhere in the menu.
[18:41] <odinsbane> Its a built in webcam on an asus
[18:41] <koichirose> Rigongia: how can I stop that command within 60 seconds then?
[18:41] <kevin01123> xp-killer: Somewhere in the menu there should be something like "Scan for new Plugins"
[18:41] <Rigongia> koichirose : only a sec. that i check
[18:41] <kevin01123> xp-killer: Click that, if it asks you to save, save, and then restart.
[18:41] <kevin01123> Should be ready to go.
[18:41] <mmm4m5m> question please: after upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04... when I open synaptic there are 37 packages "Residual config". What does it mean? Do I have to "remove completely"?
[18:42] <unop> koichirose, -c
[18:42] <xp-killer> kevin01123: i did that but still not reading redtube videos
[18:42] <chocobanana> xp-killer: oh... try this: http://geekery.etherknet.com/?p=168
[18:42] <koichirose> I see, but is there a way to show that graphical window that I see when I click shutdown?
[18:42] <adac> Where is the log file for the network manager vpn located?
[18:43] <unop> koichirose, if you find out how that is done - let us know :)
[18:43] <koichirose> ://
[18:43] <koichirose> if even you dont know that ^^
[18:43] <Malicia> Mylesmadness, hum
[18:43] <xp-killer> chocobanana: im in 8.10 not 9.04.should i still try this?
[18:43] <koichirose> I dont know where else to look
[18:43] <Malicia> Mylesmadness, wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:""
[18:44] <Mylesmadness> Malicia: That means?
[18:44] <chocobanana> xp-killer: yes, it should still be safe
[18:44] <Mylesmadness> I'm a windows guy, its all GUI
[18:44] <chocobanana> xp-killer: I recommend you close konqueror before doing it
[18:44] <Malicia> Mylesmadness, that means that your wifi card isn't identified
[18:44] <Rigongia> Mylesmadness , Malicia : it's a broadcom wireless adapter
[18:44] <Rigongia> as reported by the output of lshw
[18:44] <Mylesmadness> Malicia: How I fix that
[18:44] <koichirose> another question: how can I see via script if a program is running and run/not run another command accordingly?
[18:44] <Malicia> Mylesmadness, u'll see, Ubuntu is life :)
[18:44] <Mylesmadness> Rigongia: How would I get that to work
[18:44] <guhcampos> Hi guys, I have an awful problem with an Asus notebook. Sound comes out right from the note speakers, but if I plug external speakers it's mute. I've tried several configs in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and none worked... could use some help here =/
[18:45] <Weed37> hi i am new to linus how do i install wine from terminal
[18:45] <Weed37> linux*
[18:45] <jrib> !wine > Weed37
[18:45] <jrib> !apt > Weed37
[18:45] <Weed37> ty
[18:45] <Frijolie> unop, you're a life saver! thanks that worked!
[18:45] <Malicia> Mylesmadness, what's your wifi card exact name?
[18:46] <jrib> koichirose: man gnome-session
[18:46] <defcon1_> anyone know how to reset file associations back to the default settings?
[18:46] <Malicia> Mylesmadness, lspci | grep -i net
[18:46] <Rigongia> Malicia : BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
[18:46] <Mylesmadness> Malicia: Dell Wireless 1370 WLAN MiniPCI Card
[18:46] <Malicia> Rigongia, 10x :)
[18:46] <Mylesmadness> Malicia: lspci | grep -i net
[18:46] <Mylesmadness> wait
[18:47] <Mylesmadness> sorry :p
[18:47] <Mylesmadness> Malicia:  Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]
[18:47] <Malicia> nm :)
[18:47] <qazavul> can some one help me out
[18:47] <Malicia> yep, Rigongia was faster and I hate looking at lshw output sorry :p
[18:47] <sveakex> is anybody using intel x3100?
[18:47] <Rigongia> i think i missed your description of the problem, qazavul
[18:48] <Mylesmadness> Malicia: Any ideas?
[18:48] <qazavul> when i run videos in firefox there laggy but sound isnt
[18:48] <Rigongia> qazavul : 32 or 64 bit ?
[18:48] <qazavul> can some ne help me
[18:48] <qazavul> idk
[18:48] <oDuda> i cant use dialup network and ubuntu 9.04
[18:48] <Rigongia> what cpu do you have, qazavul ?
[18:49] <qazavul> a dell desktop tat sux
[18:49] <koichirose> jrib: gnome-session for which of my questions?
[18:49] <oDuda> somebody uses dialup network and ubuntu 9.04 ?
[18:49] <Rigongia> Mylesmadness : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177
[18:49] <jrib> koichirose: shutdown menu
[18:49] <Rigongia> see if this helps, Myles
[18:50] <Rigongia> what model, qazavul ?
[18:50] <TannerS> Guys, can I install ubuntu 9.04 onto a empty partition but have it install while on my windows vista OS?
[18:50] <unop> koichirose,  if ! pgrep firefox-bin; then commands etc; fi
[18:50] <qazavul> i dont exactly know whut dell i have though
[18:50] <qazavul> it had windows xp on it
[18:50] <qazavul> can anyone help out
[18:50] <unop> koichirose, ^ an example of running commands if firefox isn't running
[18:50] <sveakex> TannerS: yes
[18:51] <Malicia> Mylesmadness, do you lnow what is Ndiswrapper?
[18:51] <Malicia> *know
[18:51] <Mylesmadness> Malicia: Yep
[18:51] <elgar> sveakex, how, I assume he cant be booted into an OS on the hdd he is installing ubuntu onto
[18:51] <unop> koichirose, script questions are answered in #bash really
[18:51] <Rigongia> ok, qazavul ... can you pastebin the output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' ?
[18:51] <qazavul> wut
[18:51] <koichirose> i'm sorry then
[18:51] <|newbie|> Hello. I use Ubuntu 9.04. There is a bug on the gweather-applet: I can't choose between different "Paris", there is only one available, but in reality, there is: Paris Lebourget (data shown by gweather when Paris is selected), Paris Orly, and Paris Roissy-Charles-de-Gaulle).
[18:51] <ganesh> i am upgrading the distro and its sucking my full download bandwidth..how can set the priority?
[18:52] <qazavul> Rigongia: wut
[18:52] <jrib> !bugs | |newbie|
[18:52] <TannerS> sveakex how can I? Id love to install it while on my windows since im typing up an essay
[18:52] <Rigongia> qazavul : give me a second and i'll answer you
[18:52] <sveakex> TannerS: oh i thought you meant dual booting, but wubi might work
[18:52] <TannerS> wubi?
[18:52] <sveakex> TannerS: http://wubi-installer.org/
[18:52] <thevish> hi all
[18:53] <shadeslayer> !wubi | TannerS
[18:53] <thevish> I am having a problem installing ubuntu
[18:53] <Mylesmadness> Malicia: After that, it knows my card name, but it won't see my router
[18:53] <Rigongia> qazavul, can you write me the output of the command ' cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i name' ?
[18:53] <koichirose> jrib: I can't see where I can open that menu with gnome-session
[18:53] <TannerS> sveakex thanks, but does it always work or is it like risky?
[18:53] <elgar> TannerS, I dont think you can use your vista installation while installing ubuntu
[18:53] <|newbie|> jrib: Can you tell me if you have the same problem?
[18:53] <shadeslayer> TannerS: its risky for ubuntu :P
[18:53] <qazavul> Rigongia: idk wut that means srrry
[18:54] <shadeslayer> elgar: aactually he could try a vbox
[18:54] <alienkid10> how do I make a .deb of a program?
[18:54] <TannerS> i might as well try it
[18:54] <jrib> koichirose: sorry. gnome-session-save
[18:54] <shadeslayer> TannerS: do you know about virtual boxes??
[18:54] <TannerS> nope
[18:54] <chocobanana> alienkid10: google
[18:54] <Rigongia> qazavul, can you open a command prompt in your ubuntu ?
[18:54] <_CommandeR_Lap> anyone got problems updating ubuntu?
[18:54] <sveakex> TannerS: install ubuntu later
[18:54] <elgar> shadeslayer, good point, seems like alot of effort just to save 25 mins worth of install time though
[18:54] <jrib> |newbie|: not on ubuntu right now
[18:54] <Malicia> alienkid10, http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8047723203.html
[18:54] <qazavul> i can open that terminal thing
[18:54] <burvowski> When I did a default Ubuntu installation and had it choose all settings for me on my Asus 1000HE netbook with a 160 gig hard drive and 2 gigs of ram, it gave me 5.75 gigs for my swap partition. Is that overkill?
[18:54] <|newbie|> jrib: ok
[18:55] <sveakex> TannerS: or save you essay, install ubuntu, and continue, installing ubuntu should not take more than 30 minutes
[18:55] <Psychonaut> hi all
[18:55] <xp-killer_> chocobanana: i still cant see the videos
[18:55] <chocobanana> burvowski: totally overkill. 1Gb is enough
[18:55] <Rigongia> ok, on the terminal thing just type : cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i name
[18:55] <Malicia> Mylesmadness, you should install Ndiswrapper
[18:55] <Rigongia> and write here what the pc shows, qazavul
[18:55] <burvowski> chocobanana even if i frequently use hibernate and suspend?
[18:55] <Mylesmadness> Malicia: I did, but I found a driver for my card in hardware drivers, im testing now
[18:56] <thevish> does memtest86+ fix errors or only report it ? I have this error ---- > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquashfsErrors and I think my computer has some problem with the memory ........ Windows Xp works fine
[18:56] <TannerS> sveakex i kinda need to get it working everytime i install it it says cannot display this video mode, i have the xconfig file or w/e that works but it takes me forevcer to fix it i rather do it so i can continue :P i might as well try it it dont bother me if i have to delete it lol
[18:56] <burvowski> if 5.75 gigs is overkill for a swap partition, why does ubuntu do that by default?
[18:56] <Psychonaut> how can i install python and perl support for xchat ??
[18:56] <chocobanana> burvowski: if you just use suspend, 1Gb is enough. For suspend, I'm not sure if it uses the swap file...
[18:56] <qazavul> i have pentium III (coppermine)
[18:56] <Malicia> Mylesmadness, oki
[18:56] <Audi> Hello
[18:56] <Malicia> Mylesmadness, try to say what exactlu it does/says
[18:56] <Rigongia> ok, so we finally know it's 32 bits ...
[18:56] <chocobanana> burvowski: I mean for hibernation, not sure if the swap file is used
[18:56] <Rigongia> now back to your firefox problem ...
[18:56] <sveakex> TannerS: use a different video driver
[18:56] <Malicia> Rigongia, it's a hard day :p
[18:56] <inhalantD> can anyone direct me to a chan that can help me with CentOS linux?
[18:56] <ska> Anyone have a eee PC 901? Does it have a built-in microphone?
[18:57] <burvowski> chocobana ok thanks, is there a way to move some of the space over to my main partition?
[18:57] <burvowski> ska yes it does
[18:57] <dft> anyone else experiencing X11 lockups when running rdesktop/gnome-rdp?
[18:57] <sveakex> TannerS: anyhow your essay is more important that a ubuntu installation, just install ubuntu later and then deal with X
[18:57] <chocobanana> burvowski: because there's this rule of making a swap file 2.5x the amount of RAM you have
[18:57] <Mylesmadness> Malicia: alright, im going to reboot, brb
[18:57] <ska> burvowski: I can't get skype to use it .. not sure why.
[18:57] <bullgard4> Empathy > Preferences > sounds are all asserted. But I do not hear any sound notifications. How can I troubleshoot?
[18:57] <TannerS> sveakex im extremely new to linux base OS I can hardly figure out how to do the basics lol =]
[18:58] <sveakex> TannerS: if you have icq or msn you can add me
[18:58] <TannerS> i have msn
[18:58] <koichirose> jrib: thank you so much
[18:58] <burvowski> chocobanana so you reccomend i resize it to 1 gig?
[18:58] <inhalantD> can someone help me please?
[18:58] <sveakex> or aim for that matter
[18:58] <thevish> Can anyone advice me
[18:58] <sveakex> or xmpp lol
[18:58] <thevish> does memtest86+ fix errors or only report it ? I have this error ---- > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquashfsErrors and I think my computer has some problem with the memory ........ Windows Xp works fine
[18:58] <mib_vphqtgss> report them
[18:58] <dft> thevish: report only
[18:58] <odinsbane> Is there any video conference software for linux w/msn?
[18:58] <ganesh>  i am upgrading the distro and its sucking my full download bandwidth..how can set the priority?
[18:59] <sveakex> odinsbane: skype
[18:59] <chocobanana> burvowski: well, I'm not sure, if it would happen to me, I would just reinstall and manually partition. By I suggest that you determine the if Ubuntu stores the hibernation image in the swap partition and what's the recommended size. Maybe opening or searching a thread in the forums may be a good idea...
[18:59] <TannerS> sveakex lol thats alot man
[18:59] <R4kk00n> i cannot build xserver-xorg-video-ati-6.9.0+git20081003.f9826a56 from intrepid on jaunty. is that normal or i messed something?
[18:59] <qazavul> Rigongia:
[18:59] <odinsbane> sveakex: does skype work with msn?
[18:59] <sveakex> TannerS: i use the same client for everything
[18:59] <sveakex> odinsbane: ah, no, amsn has video
[18:59] <burvowski> chocobanana ok i'll search around thanks
[18:59] <_CommandeR_Lap> Anyone could help, i get this when updating = Failed to fetch http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~knuta/xmms/jaunty/./Release.gpg
[18:59] <sveakex> odinsbane: not sure about sound
[18:59] <TannerS> nicr
[18:59] <thevish> so for memory problems there are no work arounds ?
[18:59] <TannerS> *nice
[19:00] <petsounds> ganesh : you can't, it ain't torrent
[19:00] <usser> _CommandeR_Lap, why xmms?
[19:00] <odinsbane> sveakex: yeah the sound is in the form of sending clips.
[19:00] <dft> anyone else experiencing X11 lockups when running rdesktop/gnome-rdp?
[19:00] <usser> !xmms
[19:00] <Rigongia> yes, quazavul ?
[19:00] <Audi> ?
[19:00] <qazavul> Rigongia: do u know wuts wrong
[19:00] <chocobanana> burvowski: if you ditch hibernation, then lower the swap partition. You're welcome :)
[19:00] <sveakex> odinsbane: just use skype, only skype, it is good software
[19:00] <Audi> ? : s
[19:00] <chocobanana> xp-killer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-kde4/+bug/354178
[19:01] <Rigongia> qazavul : i'm thinking about it
[19:01] <manikanta_> hello i am new to ubuntu i want some help
[19:01] <qazavul> Rigongia: srry im not rushing or anything
[19:01] <Malicia> manikanta, what's wrong?
[19:01] <manikanta_> how to install a software
[19:02] <Mylesmadness> Malicia: I got it working!
[19:02] <jrib> !software > manikanta_
[19:02] <Malicia> manikanta, Synaptic is your friend
[19:02] <ganesh> petsounds: but i heard abt apt-get download priority.....or something like that
[19:02] <Malicia> Mylesmadness, thats' cool man :)
[19:02] <Mylesmadness> Malicia: Thats so much dude
[19:02] <Malicia> Mylesmadness, welcome to linux world ;)
[19:03] <manikanta> how to use apt-get install
[19:03] <Malicia> manikanta, open a console
[19:03] <manikanta> ok
[19:03] <jrib> manikanta: read ubottu's link
[19:03] <Malicia> manikanta, you write in : sudo apt-get install my-favorite-soft-name
[19:04] <Rigongia> qazavul : what kind of video give you troubles ?
[19:04] <qazavul> idk im trying to watch anime online
[19:04] <manikanta> i had nmap folder in software dir how to install or run that
[19:04] <manikanta> detail me
[19:04] <qazavul> they lagg but sound is normall
[19:05] <kavurt> does anybody use logitech quickcam for notebooks pro on jaunty?
[19:05] <Rigongia> qazavul : ok, can you please give me a link that gives you trouble ?
[19:05] <Malicia> manikanta, don't forget the magic world "please" ;)
[19:05] <ritchy> hi everybody
[19:05] <Malicia> manikanta, so you have a .tar.gz or what?
[19:05] <qazavul> uhh ok
[19:05] <manikanta> detailation pls
[19:05] <ganesh> is it possible to give more bandwidth to firefox? because while updating the system it sucks whole bandwidth
[19:05] <marisol> ?
[19:05] <qazavul> http://media-squish.us/0000/b/buso_renkin/16_busorenkin.html
[19:06] <manikanta> i extracted it
[19:06] <_CommandeR_Lap> where is the sources.list ?
[19:06] <tones>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:06] <_CommandeR_Lap> thanx
[19:06] <tones> no worries
[19:07] <Slart> ganesh: possible.. but I think it will be more complicated than you want it to be
[19:07] <manikanta> by using uncompresser i uncompressed it
[19:07] <bullgard4> ganesh: Set ist 'Priority' level to a higher value.
[19:07] <Malicia> manikanta, did u read the README or INSTALL file in ?
[19:07] <manikanta> melicia
[19:07] <Slart> ganesh: of course.. you could select a mirror on the other side of the world.. but that seems .. a bit.. wrong =)
[19:07] <manikanta> ok will search
[19:08] <manikanta> ya i had install file in that folder
[19:08] <Malicia> manikanta, u can begin typing someone's nick and press Tab to complete it
[19:08] <Malicia> ;)
[19:09] <Rigongia> qazavul : try typing "about:plugins" in your firefox address bar
[19:09] <ganesh> Slart: if u could suggest some material to learn about or how to set the priority i ll be happy to learn
[19:09] <manikanta> how to use that
[19:09] <manikanta> Malicia:
[19:10] <Slart> ganesh: hmm.. you can google for "traffic shaping" ... or "ubuntu bandwidth limiter"
[19:10] <cellofellow> ganesh: try trickle
[19:10] <Slart> cellofellow: trickle won't help with apt hogging all the bandwidth, will it?
[19:10] <Malicia> manikanta, :) u learned the wonder of the Tab
[19:10] <Malicia> manikanta, did u read that file?
[19:10] <qazavul> then wut
[19:11] <manikanta> ya i read that
[19:11] <cellofellow> Slart: I've used it for that
[19:11] <manikanta> it shows me
[19:11] <Rigongia> qazavul : then look for the label "Shockwave Flash" and tell me what it reads below that
[19:11] <cellofellow> though when apt starts to download from multiple mirrors it does no good.
[19:12] <manikanta> ./configure
[19:12] <manikanta> make
[19:12] <manikanta> makeinstall
[19:12] <RaceCondition> I'm currently doing dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb, but I'd like to monitor what the speed of the operation is... System Monitor unfortunately does not show Disk IO
[19:12] <ganesh> Slart: cellofellow: thanx..
[19:12] <ManDay> Is there a quick way to use smaller icons on the desktop?
[19:12] <manikanta> Malicia:
[19:12] <Slart> RaceCondition: try iostat in a terminal
[19:12] <Rigongia> qazavul : gotta go to dinner, cya soon
[19:13] <Malicia> manikanta, so you go in the directory where u de-tar your package
[19:13] <manikanta> after that
[19:13] <RaceCondition> Slart: thanks
[19:13] <Malicia> manikanta, for exemple, if you soft is called "my-snice-soft", you have a directory
[19:13] <Malicia> manikanta, u do in the console : cd "my-nice-soft"
[19:13] <Weed37>  i am wondering if their is an app like rs manager in windows for linux  any ideas guys ?
[19:13] <manikanta> ok
[19:13] <_CommandeR_Lap> uno question. What is better, pulseaudio or Alsa ?
[19:14] <Malicia> manikanta, r u in?
[19:14] <manikanta> then
[19:14] <usser> Weed37, what does rs manager do?
[19:14] <Slart> _CommandeR_Lap: they are not the same thing
[19:14] <Malicia> _CommandeR_Lap, Alsa :)
[19:14] <qazavul> File name:  libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22
[19:14] <RaceCondition> Slart: does BUlk read = 4000.00 mean 4 MB/s?
[19:14] <_CommandeR_Lap> Slart, what is the difference then ?
[19:14] <Weed37> rapidshare manager for downloading rapidshare files
[19:14] <Slart> _CommandeR_Lap: you might want to ask.. is alsa ok as it is.. or is alsa+pulseaudio better
[19:14] <manikanta> Malicia:
[19:14] <_CommandeR_Lap> Slart, hu?
[19:14] <manikanta> jik
[19:15] <R4kk00n> Weed37, there is tucan
[19:15] <Slart> _CommandeR_Lap: alsa is what talks to the actual sound hardware..
[19:15] <manikanta> Malicia:
[19:15] <snake> hi all!!
[19:15] <Malicia> manikanta, slow down, I have other things to do too ;)
[19:15] <manikanta> ok
[19:15] <Slart> _CommandeR_Lap: pulseaudio talks to alsa and makes some fancy stuff with it
[19:15] <Weed37> thanks R4kk00n
[19:15] <Malicia> manikanta, so you type in ur console configure
[19:15] <R4kk00n> Weed37, you can find it on getdeb.net
[19:15] <_CommandeR_Lap> Slart, hm,
[19:16] <Malicia> manikanta, sorry, ./configure
[19:16] <cip> hi all
[19:16] <Slart> _CommandeR_Lap: think of alsa as a stereo system.. pulseaudio is a DJ..
[19:16] <XimDev> hello cip
[19:16] <_CommandeR_Lap> Slart, but when i had Creative X-FI driver installed i was not getting any sound until i uninstalled pulse
[19:16] <cip> i have a problem
[19:16] <XimDev> I need help saving PATH and other environment variables for all users permanently
[19:17] <Malicia> manikanta, is it ok?
[19:17] <Slart> _CommandeR_Lap: pulseaudio can do strange things.
[19:17] <qazavul> File name:  libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22
[19:17] <RaceCondition> shit, that's only 2.5MB/s, holy crap
[19:17] <jsmidt> Is it possible to use a GUI app to find your MAC address.  Yes I know I can use the command line, but someone asked me if it was even possible using a GUI and I said I didn't know.
[19:17] <cip> i have download wubi and i have instal jaunty 9.04 but when star jaunti dont know my adls modem usb ???? have you a ideea?
[19:18] <_CommandeR_Lap> Slart, But Alsa is like Direct Sound in (windows) and Pulse is what M$ made with Vista/Win7
[19:18] <_CommandeR_Lap> ?
[19:18] <RaceCondition> whoa, bs=1024k gives a 10x boost
[19:19] <Slart> _CommandeR_Lap: something like that.. although alsa doesn't really do 3d-audio and such...
[19:19] <R4kk00n> alsa is like a bunch of drivers
[19:19] <IamSOG> um... what's a meta-package
[19:19] <kitche> IamSOG: also called a dummy-package does not install anything just a package for tons of dependencies
[19:20] <Slart> IamSOG: a package that doesn't contain any files.. it just depends on other packages
[19:20] <_CommandeR_Lap> Slart, hm,
[19:20] <motaalim> hi
[19:20] <IamSOG> Oh.. that's interesting....
[19:20] <Malicia> IamSOG, These packages do not contain actual software, they simply depend on other packages to be installed.
[19:20] <IamSOG> thanks
[19:20] <Malicia> Ubuntu-doc ;)
[19:20] <qazavul> Rigongia: u still there
[19:20] <ganesh> how can i find out how packets are routing to my network providers server i mean intermediate nodes
[19:21] <R4kk00n> jsmidt, right-click the network manager icon and click "connection information"
[19:21] <fornix> is it possible to access internet via wifi without network manager?
[19:21] <motaalim> yes
[19:21] <mib_vphqtgss> its a pain tho
[19:21] <jsmidt> R4kk00n, thanks
[19:22] <XimDev> easy
[19:22] <whatvn> there is many "network manager"
[19:22] <XimDev> i do it from command line
[19:22] <smithna> Hi, could some help me with mounting some hard drives connected via a sata raid card (I'm using jbod) -- I've pasted dmesg output here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/184454/
[19:22] <Weed37> R4kk00n: i did a search for tucan in add remove but cant find it any ideas
[19:22] <fornix> the nm applet which comes installed with 9.04
[19:23] <XimDev> fornix: iwconfig interface essid "networkname" channel xx Mode "managed or adhoc" ap "AP MAC"
[19:23] <MiVo> Hi, I've updated from 8.10 to 9.04, and now TV-out doesn't work anymore
[19:24] <whatvn> smithna: do a fdisk -l
[19:24] <fornix> XimDev: thats handy thanks. iwconfig. cool. is it like ifconfig for wired connections
[19:24] <smithna> whatvn: it returns nothing....
[19:24] <fornix> XimDev: just bought a laptop with wifi.
[19:24] <whatvn> smithna: sudo fdisk -l
[19:25] <XimDev> yeah
[19:25] <fornix> XimDev: 1 question though. where do i put in my WEP key?
[19:25] <Weed37> i did a search for tucan in add remove but cant find it any ideas guys
[19:25] <manikanta> melicia
[19:25] <manikanta> melicia
[19:25] <smithna> whatvn: actually (once I run as sudo) it returns info on partitions for the drives that are already mounted.
[19:26] <XimDev> add key "" to the list of arguments
[19:26] <Malicia> manikanta, remember Tab ;)
[19:26] <manikanta> Malicia:
[19:26] <Malicia> yes?
[19:26] <fornix> XimDev: thanks. i'll play with it
[19:26] <XimDev> and enc "type of encryption"
[19:26] <whatvn> smithna: no
[19:26] <manikanta> it is showing  <bash: ./configure: No such file or directory>
[19:27] <manikanta> what to do
[19:27] <Gain> what is the best msn client out there
[19:27] <Gain> for ubuntu
[19:27] <whatvn> smithna: it shows devices that system connect to
[19:27] <smithna> also sudo gparted gives an error message of "no devices found"
[19:27] <XimDev> i use aMSN
[19:27] <Gain> is it better than emesene?
[19:27] <manikanta> Malicia:
[19:27] <whatvn> smithna: sudo fdisk -l and give me result
[19:27] <XimDev> don't know never used it
[19:27] <R4kk00n> Weed37, look for it on getdeb.net
[19:27] <Weed37> kk ty
[19:27] <Malicia> Gain, amsn
[19:28] <R4kk00n> it's not in the usual repos
[19:28] <smithna> http://paste.ubuntu.com/184456/
[19:28] <Malicia> manikanta, after typing the nick, do not push Enter, but write down what u want to say
[19:28] <Asterix> I'm not quite understanding how grub works... I installed 9.04 on a drive that already had XP on it and also had 8.10 on a different physical drive.  Now none of them will boot. Anyone have some suggestions?
[19:29] <Malicia> Asterix, what does it say?
[19:29] <whatvn> smithna: Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
[19:29] <XimDev> ok, who is responsible for the wiki here
[19:29] <Kraft> !XimDev i am
[19:29] <Kraft> @XimDev i am
[19:29] <whatvn> smithna: it's sdc, not sdd
[19:30] <smithna> whatvn: no, sdc is a usb connected external hd
[19:30] <whatvn> smithna: but remember check everything correctly before doing anything with fdisk
[19:30] <XimDev> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneTruePath needs to be updated
[19:30] <Asterix> malicia: if I have the 8.10 drive set in bios as first drive it gives error 22.  If I put the other drive as first originally it would only boot windows.  Then I went into gpartd and made the ubuntu partition as bootable and now it just gives an error that there's no bootable disk.
[19:30] <manikanta> manikanta@manikanta-desktop:~/software/nmap-4.85BETA9$ ./configure
[19:30] <manikanta> checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
[19:30] <manikanta> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
[19:30] <manikanta> checking for gcc... gcc
[19:30] <manikanta> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[19:30] <manikanta> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[19:30] <FloodBot3> manikanta: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:30] <safruhani> :)
[19:30] <XimDev> manikanta please don't paste here
[19:30] <XimDev> i am using a 9" laptop
[19:30] <TheFunkbomb_> hey floodbot3, you want to remove the ban from my name TheFunkbomb?
[19:31] <smithna> whatvn: none of the *new* drives are listed on the "sudo fdisk -l"
[19:31] <IamSOG> kitche, slart  and Malicia Do you guys know if the meta-package might slow down the system? or it's basically some exta softwares?
[19:31] <whatvn> smithna: how many disk you have?
[19:31] <smacktalk> so what are you-all's recommendation on content management systems...for an intranet?
[19:31] <Malicia> IamSOG, I'm not a guy :)
[19:31] <whatvn> smithna: you dont give me all what fdisk -l say
[19:31] <TheFunkbomb_> nevermind :D
[19:31] <IamSOG> :O Oh hi Malicia sorry, I didn't know
[19:31] <Malicia> nm
[19:31] <manikanta> how to install a c complier
[19:31] <safruhani> hi, is google-desktop-linux stable on ubuntu 9.4 ? have u tried it?
[19:31] <midnajt> what channel is for gnome designers strictly
[19:31] <manikanta> Malicia:
[19:31] <IamSOG> So, what do you hot chick think about meta-package lol :D
[19:32] <whatvn> smithna: where is this line: Partition table entries are not in disk order
[19:32] <Malicia> manikanta, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:32] <TannerS> guys i dont have a blank cd to burn the ubuntu 9.04 os image onto it, well a dvd be ok?
[19:32] <maxagaz> hi, is this address really down www.sopcast.com, or is it because i'm in china ?
[19:33] <vanishing> download the dvd version for that
[19:33] <skullhacks> yeah
[19:33] <smithna> whatvn: I don't see that line...
[19:33] <Asterix> maxagaz, it's down for me too
[19:33] <smacktalk> down for me too
[19:33] <fornix> TannerS: try a usb
[19:33] <smithna> btw:  here what I see when I use sfdisk...: http://paste.ubuntu.com/184461/
[19:33] <maxagaz> how to install sopcast then ?
[19:33] <vanishing> is it on getdeb?
[19:33] <vanishing> try that
[19:33] <TannerS> i dont have one big enough anymore, where cna i find dvd version for ubuntu 9.04 desktop 32bit?
[19:34] <whatvn> smithna: try unplug new disk, plug again
[19:34] <vanishing> ubuntu.com
[19:34] <XimDev> I need help permanently setting PATH for all users on the system, the wiki page is outdated
[19:34] <vanishing> for sopcast
[19:34] <TannerS> all i can find is vd version
[19:34] <vanishing> try google srouce
[19:34] <TannerS> *cd
[19:34] <smithna> nope, no love...
[19:34] <vanishing> http://code.google.com/p/gsopcast/
[19:35] <Kraft> 666
[19:35] <Kraft> SATAN LIVES
[19:35] <Kraft> ALL NIGGERS MUST HANG
[19:35] <FloodBot3> Kraft: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <deany> TannerS, burn it to a dvd it`ll work
[19:35] <vanishing> wtf is that...
[19:35] <TannerS> ok ty ill give it a try
[19:35] <picca> that is horrible
[19:35] <Gain> in Ubuntu, how do I set a environment variable?
[19:35] <vanishing> why do you need that....
[19:35] <whatvn> Gain: same as other
[19:35] <Gain> what do you mean whatvn
[19:36] <whatvn> .bashrc
[19:36] <XimDev> Gain: export variable_name=value
[19:36] <XimDev> but that resets when you end your session
[19:36] <Gain> thanks xim,
[19:36] <Gain> oh
[19:36] <XimDev> i have same problem
[19:36] <Asterix> I'm not quite understanding how grub works... I installed 9.04 on a drive that already had XP on it and also had 8.10 on a different physical drive.  Now none of them will boot. Either have an error 22 or it just says no bootable media depending on what drive is set 1st in bios.  Anyone have some suggestions?
[19:37] <whatvn> *sleep
[19:37] <XimDev> Gain, still there
[19:37] <TannerS> maybe ur bootloader or w/e is messed up
[19:37] <Rigongia> Xim, Gain : if you add the command "export variable_name=value" in your .bash_profile you'll have it set every time you log in
[19:37] <fornix> XimDev: can't you add it in .profile?
[19:37] <whatvn> i think .bashrc is better?
[19:38] <manikanta> Malicia:
[19:38] <vanishing> ^ is right
[19:38] <manikanta> thnk u very much its working
[19:38] <xd4> hello, if anyone can please take a look at this and try to help me, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7372725#post7372725
[19:38] <RaceCondition> I'm doing a dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb to make a copy of sda to sdb, but I pressed Ctrl-C a few times to test with other blocksizes for better speed - does that still mean dd starts writing to the beginning of the output device, i.e sdb?
[19:39] <Malicia> manikanta, u r welcome :)
[19:39] <Malicia> manikanta, so your ./configure is working
[19:39] <Malicia> manikanta, now it's time to do : make
[19:40] <Rigongia> xd4, you should only delete the "sleep 60s" part from the last line and you should be ok
[19:40] <whatvn> xd4: these command make your system start slow?
[19:40] <skullhacks> what is Terminal Server?
[19:40] <manikanta> i have done
[19:40] <manikanta> mailcia
[19:40] <whatvn> skullhacks: ask Windows
[19:40] <manikanta> Malicia:
 delete it from where? the script is deleted already, so is everything related to dropbox
[19:41] <Joeseph> Hi.  I recently move my root partition to a backup to upgrade to ext4.  After copying the original files back to the original partition, I now get a grub error 15 on bootup.      I think that's a 'file not found' error.... Do I need to reinstall grub? What am I doing wrong?
[19:41] <skullhacks> whatvn: it came in my ubuntu
[19:41] <Malicia> Asterix, could u give us what is in menu.lst?
[19:41] <Malicia> manikanta, and now u do make install
 it causes a delay in the startup of everything, for a 60 sec
[19:41] <Slart> RaceCondition: afaik, yes.... dd very clever like that.. I think it just does the whole thing
[19:42] <whatvn> skullhacks: just Client
[19:42] <XimDev> fornix: should that work for all users, path is updated several times at startup by many scripts?
[19:42] <Slart> raven_: ...dd isn't very clever...
[19:42] <RaceCondition> Slart: thank god :P
[19:42] <XimDev> that's one aspect of ubuntu that should be changed
[19:42] <whatvn> xd4: check your log files
[19:42] <Asterix> malicia, how do I get the menu.lst?
[19:42] <raven_> Slart sry wrong nick ;)
 which logfiles?
[19:42] <Slart> bah.. sorry raven
[19:43] <Asterix> I'm logged into sudo grub right now but I'm not very familier with it
[19:43] <whatvn> xd4: /var/log/messages , i thought
[19:43] <raven_> no problem
[19:43] <Sarven> elo
[19:43] <Sarven> znacie jakies stronki z themami do ubuntu gnome?
[19:43] <Malicia> Sarven, english ;)
[19:44] <whatvn> !sleep
[19:44] <whatvn> :-p
[19:44] <Sarven> lol
[19:44] <Joeseph> Sorry, Any ideas on a grub 15 error after I moved my files?
[19:45] <Gain> I am doing some socket programming, is ther eanyway I can see what ports are currently being open
[19:45] <Malicia> Asterix, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:45] <mmm4m5m> question: ubuntu 8.04, terminal beep is not working. Can't fix it. Any help, pelase?
[19:45] <usser> Gain, netstat
[19:45] <greato> Ubuntu got corrupted
[19:45] <flintwingel> Gain: lsof
[19:45]  * mmm4m5m in fact, no speaker beep at all
 nothing there, do you know how to uninstall a script or at least how to reverse its effect?
[19:46] <whatvn> xd4: how did you install this script?
[19:46] <curtmack> Is there a way to compile objdump so I can use it for windows programs?
[19:46] <manikanta> Malicia:
[19:46] <Malicia> yes?
[19:46] <skullhacks> hello frog!
[19:46] <manikanta> it is showing some error in make install
[19:46] <skullhacks> hello hax0r1337
[19:46] <skullhacks> www.hackerforever.com
 it was an autostart.sh, i saved it and restarted
[19:47] <frog> hi, can  i set my a laptop as a second dispay for pc? it's acer laptop
[19:47] <Rigongia> curtmack : you'll have to build all the binutils from source and give the configuration script the appropriate target
[19:47] <curtmack> Okay, thanks
[19:48] <whatvn> xd4: but how can your system look at the script everytime it starts?
[19:48] <Asterix> Malicia, here's the menu.lst from my 9.04 installation http://paste.ubuntu.com/184474/
[19:48] <CyberGabber> mmm4m5m: You mean 'terminal bell' in Gone terminal ?
 thats whats driving me nuts, i dont know where the system is reading the sleep 60 sec part from
[19:49] <Rigongia> Asterix, Malicia's gone to dinner. I'll try to help you
[19:49] <Dillizar> salut
[19:49] <whatvn> xd4: I'm trying to help you, but If you dont remember what you did, I cant
[19:49] <ManDay> I has another problem in Compiz.... When I disable window decoration (I want to get rid of the translucent titlebar of inactive windows) the whole titlebar disappears!!!!  ... !!!
[19:49] <mmm4m5m> CyberGabber: two days back with ubuntu 7.10 I had speaker beep - in terminal and in pidgin (new msgs). Now with ubuntu 8.04 - no beep any more. Can't find what is wrong.
[19:49] <Malicia> Dillizar, c'est en anglais que ça parle ici ;)
[19:49] <manikanta> Malicia:
[19:50] <Malicia> cu l8r
[19:50] <Malicia> :)
[19:50] <Asterix> rigongia, oh okay, thanks...  I've installed 9.04 on a separate drive that has xp and now none of the three will boot.
[19:50] <Dillizar> Malicia, lol
[19:50] <manikanta> how to run .exe progarm
[19:50] <fornix> I have ubuntu 8.10 and 9.04 installed in different drives. my current menu.lst is in the /boot/grub folder of the drive where i have ubuntu 8.10 installed. Now I want to format the drive where 8.10 is instaled. When I installed 9.04, i didn't install grub. Now i installed grub and grup-common but I can't find a grub folder inside /boot folder.
[19:50] <Dillizar> Malicia, ca va ca va just salut :D
[19:50] <manikanta> Malicia:
 what i did was eaxactly this : saved the script in the autostart folder at home/.config/autostart, excute it and got the 60 sec delay
 after that i deleted it, but the effect is still taking place
[19:51] <Rigongia> Asterix : looks like a grub trouble ...
[19:51] <mneptok> Dillizar: #ubuntu-fr ou #ubuntu-qc pour Francais/Quebecois, s-t-p.
[19:52] <tlvb> Do you know if it is possible to have a wacom tablet restricted to only move in one screen in a multi monitor twinview setup?
[19:52] <manikanta> mam pls
[19:52] <Asterix> rigongia, I'm logged into sudo grub but I'm just not familier with it and the various help pages aren't very clear for a dual hard drive situation
[19:52] <manikanta> Malicia:
[19:52] <ManDay> I has another problem in Compiz.... When I disable window decoration (I want to get rid of the translucent titlebar of inactive windows) the whole titlebar disappears!!!!  ... !!!
[19:52] <whatvn> xd4: what Linux distro are you using?
 ubuntu hardy
[19:53] <Rigongia> Asterix : let's see if i understand correctly ... you have grub on the first hard drive and you have xp and ubuntu on the 2nd hard drive, correct ?
[19:53] <Inflixta> hey.  can someone help me install poweriso.  having problems
[19:53] <whatvn> xd4: you create directory .config in /home?
[19:54] <matrixblue> Inflixta, poweriso doesn't run on Linux it just has a convert
[19:54] <Asterix> rigongia, I had 8.10 installed on 1 hard drive.  I installed xp on a partition on the second hard drive and when 9.04 came out I formatted the rest of the second drive as ext4 and installed 9.04 on there.  Now I can't get into any of them no matter which one is set as first drive in the bios.
[19:54] <flintwingel> there is a version of poweriso for linux
[19:54] <Inflixta> how about acetone.iso.  i have to open a daa.file
[19:54] <mneptok> !fixgrub | Asterix
[19:54] <Inflixta> having issues with that aswell
[19:55] <manikanta> Malicia:
 /home/xd4/.config/autostart is already there, i didnt create it
[19:55] <manikanta> Malicia:
[19:55] <Rigongia> Asterix : i think it may be an uuid problem
[19:55] <mneptok> manikanta: stop
[19:55] <Rigongia> manikanta : Malicia has gone to dinner
 it has all the .desktop configuration files for all my startup apps
[19:55] <manikanta> ok sorry
[19:55] <Rigongia> manikanta : what .exe were you trying to start ?
[19:55] <manikanta> Rigongia:
[19:56] <whatvn> xd4: you typed /home/.config before, dude
[19:56] <je||y> are there any caveats i should be given before switching from ubuntu to xubuntu?
 sorry man, meant my xd4 user home folder
[19:56] <JB21> which is better? ubuntu, opensuse or debian?
[19:56] <whatvn> xd4: do a ls -la /home/xd4/.config/autostart
[19:56] <matrixblue> Inflixta, that has to be run from the command line
[19:56] <Myrtti> JB21: you're asking a loaded question
[19:56] <manikanta>  googletalk-setup-en-GB.exe
[19:56] <dassouki> how can i add a new super user from console ?
[19:56] <JB21> why?
[19:56] <jrib> JB21: that isn't on-topic here
[19:56] <mneptok> manikanta: use Pidgin
[19:56] <Asterix> rigongia, one thing I'm not sure about is does the hd0 and hd1 in grub match up with the sda and sdb drive labeling in gpartd or does that change depending on which drive is set to be first in the bios?
[19:57] <JB21> i think they all are godd
[19:57] <manikanta> ok'
[19:57] <JB21> but i only want to install one
[19:57] <mneptok> !offtopic > JB21
[19:57] <jrib> JB21: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:57] <manikanta> i had a small doubt
[19:57] <whatvn> xd4: are you there :|
[19:57] <manikanta> can i change to linux mint
[19:57] <Inflixta> matrixblue, you have a site that eplains it?
[19:57] <Rigongia> Asterix : it *should* (but i might be wrong) match with sda, sdb, etc
[19:57] <mmm4m5m> CyberGabber: any hints? in google most people ask how to stop the speaker. I just want it back.
[19:58] <Rigongia> manikanta : are you at the moment in linux or Windows ?
[19:58] <JB21> ok...when this is a support channel ive a support question:
[19:58] <manikanta> in ubuntu
[19:58] <midnajt> hey does ubuntu have a command like "tracert" on windows
[19:58] <JB21> what is the problem with xubuntu on my notebook?
[19:58] <Myrtti> !enter | manikanta
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/184481/
[19:58] <JB21> i cant install it :(
[19:58] <midnajt> or do I need the sudo apt-get install traceroute
[19:59] <matrixblue> Inflixta, http://howto.wikia.com/wiki/Howto_open,_extract,_and_convert_DAA_files_(PowerISO_files)_in_Linux
[19:59] <Rigongia> manikanta : ok, then to launch the .exe you'll have to type "wine google-whatever.exe"
[19:59] <Myrtti> JB21: how would we know, elaborate a bit
[19:59] <augie_> test
[19:59] <JB21> when the installation is loading the installation freeze.
[19:59] <Inflixta> thx tried everything almost.  hopefully didnt try this one
[19:59] <JB21> (my english isnt so good)
[19:59] <whatvn> xd4: tail -100 /var/log/messages , give me result
[20:00] <manikanta> is it possible to change into mint flavour
[20:00] <whatvn> manikanta: mint?
[20:00] <CyberGabber> mmm4m5m: I think.... In terminal > Edit > Profile preferences, tab 'general', choose 'Terminal bell' ?
[20:00] <manikanta> yes
[20:00] <Rigongia> whatvn : it's a different distro afaik :)
[20:00] <mneptok> manikanta: wrong channel. ask in the Linux Mint channels.
[20:00] <istvan> hey, I am un-able to install ubuntu studio 9.04 because of a grub install error
[20:00] <istvan> can you help me troubleshoot?
[20:00] <manikanta> sorry
[20:01] <whatvn> Rigongia: aha, I dont know
[20:01] <genii> !mint | manikanta
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/184482/
[20:01] <tanner2007> grrr, went to go install another ubuntu patition, and all i got once cd was about to install it was cannot display this vidoe mode, now i restrat pc and i cant even load up my pc it says grub loading error 17.............grrr i hate this
[20:01] <ManDay> I has another problem in Compiz.... When I disable window decoration (I want to get rid of the translucent titlebar of inactive windows) the whole titlebar disappears!!!!  ... !!!
[20:02] <mmm4m5m> CyberGabber: that is not the case. In terminal beep is enabled. In pidgin (this chat window) speaker beep is enabled. In System/Preferences/Sound I have visual notification ON if there is speaker beep. Screen is flashing but there is not speaker sound!
[20:02] <manikanta> how to use ftp
[20:02] <tanner2007> wat do i do guys
[20:02] <manikanta> cd\
[20:02] <jthomas> svn sup
[20:03] <manikanta> how to use ftp
[20:03]  * maxslacker is wubi noobie asking 4 help with adsl pppoe
[20:03] <usser> mmm4m5m, does it show up lsmod ie lsmod | grep pcsp
[20:04] <usser> manikanta, ftp servername
[20:04] <mmm4m5m> usser: pcspkr is there, modprobe is fine - no new messages in dmesg
[20:04] <bonny> Heyy
[20:04] <usser> manikanta, once there type ?
[20:04] <manikanta> yes
[20:04] <FloridaGuy> whats the differencebetween on the kernel linux-generic and linux-i386
[20:04] <ZykoticK9> manikanta, your question is too broad - gftp is a good gui ftp client, man ftp if you want cli, proftpd is a good ftp server - good luck
[20:04] <usser> mmm4m5m, well is the actual device present on the motherboard?
[20:04] <mmm4m5m> usser: alsamixer - can't find how to mute/unmute the speaker (I think it is default ON - unmute)
[20:04] <FloridaGuy> opps linux-386
[20:04] <rockyrock> hi guys, can I install Ubuntu with minimum packages? I want to specify what I want and what I don't. My laptop is too old
[20:04] <mmm4m5m> usser: yes, 2 days back with ubuntu 7.10 it was working fine
[20:04] <jrib> !minimal | rockyrock
[20:05] <Rigongia> Asterix : i suggest editing the kernel line of one of your grub entries modifying the "root=UUID=something" part into "root=/dev/sdaX" where X is the number of your root partition on the 1st hard drive
[20:05] <manikanta> what is the use of ftp server
[20:05] <usser> mmm4m5m, is pc speaker even there in alsamixer?
[20:05] <ZykoticK9> manikanta, ftp is a client-server setup - a client talks to a server (different machine) and requests files from it.
[20:05] <mapas> Hi all I just did a fresh install of ubuntu 9.04 with a partition for it and one for vista, grub was fine at first then a 2nd reboot and it loads only ubuntu
[20:05] <mmm4m5m> usser: no, I told - I can't find it - searcher for it to see is it mute or not
[20:06] <whatvn> xd4: I think your problem is not because scripts you added before
[20:06] <flintwingel> rockyrock: you mught be better of with a lightweight ubuntu based distro like crunchbang  http://crunchbanglinux.org/
[20:06] <rockyrock> jrib: I don't want to use the internet to download anything cuz I have a dialup. But I bought the Ubuntu repos from a CD shop.
[20:06] <Rigongia> manikanta : ftp server is useful if you have files that you want that someone can download via the ftp protocol
[20:06] <david_> where's the Ubuntu trash bin located (on disk)
[20:06] <david_> ?
[20:06] <mmm4m5m> usser: Ctrl+G in terminal produce screen notification but again speaker sound is missing (not working)
 what then :/
[20:07] <manikanta> give me any ftp serber
[20:07] <manikanta> give me any ftp server
[20:07] <whatvn> xd4: you must check what apps run at your system start
[20:07] <manikanta> give me any ftp server name
[20:07] <usser> mmm4m5m, hm sorry, im afraid i dont know what might be wrong
[20:07] <luke-jr> hey, my shipit stuff arrived today
[20:07] <Rigongia> manikanta : ftp.kernel.org
[20:07] <luke-jr> but it's Ubuntu, not Kubuntu :<
[20:07] <CyberGabber> mmm4m5m: In menu Tools/Preferences/Sounds, tab 'sound' is 'Play alert sound' on?
 i know what apps run, i choose them from my sessions manager
[20:07] <whatvn> xd4: go to system-preference-start up apps
[20:07] <luke-jr> is there a way to .. correct this, or just request again?
[20:08] <Rigongia> rockyrock : you can install ubuntu with the Mini iso and then add the cdrom as a source in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[20:08] <racecar56> im trying to make my own dsitribution and when i run xdm it prints nothing and the login dosen't come up... what's wrong?
[20:08] <rockyrock> flintwingel: what about Debian?
[20:08] <david_> where's the Ubuntu trash bin located (on disk)?
[20:08] <usser> rockyrock, debian is awesome
[20:08] <david_> !trash
[20:08] <Rigongia> racecar56 : try typing in google "Linux from Scratch"
 all the apps in the autostart i am familiar with,
[20:09] <flintwingel> rockyrock: debian is good, ubuntu is based on it. If this is your first time with linux debain may not be the best distro for you
[20:09] <racecar56> Rigongia, i dont do google
[20:09] <usser> rockyrock, running it right now with pretty much everything i need, memory usage under 150mb
[20:09] <whatvn> xd4: because if you deleted these scripts, it has no effect with your system. I think there is something cause this problem...somewhere :d
[20:09] <ABik> ubuntu vs xp battery life
[20:09] <racecar56> Rigongia, anyway i tried lfs a while ago, i justkept gettings stuck
[20:09] <ABik> hontest opinons
[20:09] <manikanta> how can i login into ftp.server.org
[20:09] <dassouki> how can i add a user to the "sudoers file" using terminal
[20:09] <marcusBIG> hii everybody, how do i revert my graphics driver to the previous version?
 can i create a whole new session? i mean like a new list of apps that autostart?
[20:10] <rockyrock> flintwingel: I have been using Ubuntu for about 1.5 year and I'm REALLY good now :)
[20:10] <jrib> dassouki: add the user to the admin group
[20:10] <rockyrock> usser: how much memory do you have?
[20:10] <dassouki> jrib: it says that group admin doesn't exist, only adm
[20:10] <marcusBIG> or download the latest new ones (official)?
[20:10] <Rigongia> manikanta : you can't, it's just an example set into the configuration files of something
[20:10] <jrib> dassouki: what version of ubuntu is this?
[20:10] <usser> rockyrock, 1gb
[20:10] <manikanta> ok
[20:10] <dassouki> jrib: 9.04 (remote host)
[20:10] <racecar56> rockyrock, ive only been using it for almost a year
[20:10] <Rigongia> manikanta : sorry, i was wrong
[20:10] <racecar56> rockyrock, :\
[20:10] <usser> rockyrock, memory is not the issue in my case, its eeepc 701, so the cpu kinda sucks so i went with debian
[20:11] <ZykoticK9> dassouki, sudoers if for about adding permission for a user to run a particular file as root - what are you trying to do?  allow anyone to shutdown?
[20:11] <Rigongia> manikanta : it is an existing ftp server
[20:11] <dassouki> ZykoticK9: no allow a user to sudo apt-get install :D i don't want to do it from root
[20:11] <Rigongia> manikanta : you can use "anonymous" as username and a valid e-mail address as your password
[20:11] <jrib> dassouki: well whoever installed it messed with the default install
[20:11] <flintwingel> rockyrock: debian would be a good choice for limited hardware - it assumes you know hat you want rather than preselecting a arange of apps for you
[20:11] <Weed37> i have just downloaded an app witch is a .tar.gz file how do i run it
[20:11] <jrib> dassouki: man visudo
[20:11] <rockyrock> usser: I'll install only the base Debian system (140MB) and I bought the DVDs that contains all debian packages, so after I install the base system I will install what I need from those DVDs.
[20:11] <mmm4m5m> CyberGabber: you mean pidgin? I can't find "play alert sound". But my settings are "console beep". Now if I change it, then it works. Pidgin - I can change it, but the problem - terminal is using speaker beep. And after all - why it is not working. Anyway, will search in google. If you know and if there is a package - please tell, I will try to reinstall it (to read more or something else)
[20:11] <midnajt> how to connect to another IRC server
[20:11] <del_diablo> Anybody here got a clue on how to controll the fan speed of my computer? Its a laptop with mostly AMD/ATI parts
[20:11] <Ecner> Hi everyone, my cdrom drive isnt working, can anyone help me try figure out why its not mounting?
[20:11] <manikanta> i had my gmail add is it ok
[20:11] <usser> rockyrock, sounds like a plan :)
[20:12] <Rigongia> manikanta : sure, if anything goes wrong you'll get an e-mail from the server administator on your gmail account
[20:12] <istvan> grub has errors when i install ubuntu 904
[20:12] <usser> rockyrock, you probably wont want gnome or kde, im running fluxbox, its great, openbox might be a little more user friendly though
[20:12] <istvan> it fails to instal
[20:12] <ZykoticK9> dassouki, sorry man i'm not going to help you with that.  you're trying to turn linux into windows and i won't help.
[20:12] <rockyrock> usser: I have 256RAM in my laptop but the CPU is good 1.6GHz with 512KB cache, that's why I need a lightweight system
[20:13] <Kaludrom> ola troncod
[20:13] <flintwingel> rockyrock: there is a version of debian that may be a good place to start debian-501+xfce+lxde
[20:13] <dassouki> ZykoticK9: do u install all your software logged in as "root" ??
[20:13] <Kaludrom> hi
[20:13] <del_diablo> rockyrock, Openbox if you want to mess around upon install
[20:13] <manikanta> it is showing login failed
[20:13] <ZykoticK9> dassouki, of course not - i use sudo
[20:13] <Kaludrom> my name is wylli
[20:13] <whatvn> xd4: yes
[20:13] <dassouki> ZykoticK9: ya i'm tyring to add a user so they can use sudoers
[20:13] <Kaludrom> i lovo to fly
[20:13] <dassouki> ZykoticK9: ya i'm tyring to add a user so they can use sudo
[20:13] <Rigongia> manikarta : once again i was wrong ... if you don't have a username and password you can't login into ftp.server.org
[20:13] <usser> rockyrock, yea you should be fine. although for that kind of system i'd go even more spartan, gentoo or freebsd perhaps but those are just too hard for a newbie
[20:14] <rockyrock> usser: flintwingel: my problem is the RAM only
[20:14] <ZykoticK9> dassouki, wrong file then - just add the user to the admin group and your golden :)
 hows that?
[20:14] <racecar56> Rigongia, anyways it's a remaster of ubuntu...
[20:14] <manikanta> how to know that perl complier already exists
[20:14] <Weed37> i have just downloaded an app witch is a .tar.gz file how do i run it in ubuntu guys ?
[20:14] <flintwingel> rockyrock: how much do you have?
[20:14] <manikanta> ans me
[20:14] <rockyrock> flintwingel: 256MB
[20:14] <dassouki> ZykoticK9: useradd username admin .. admin group doesn't exist
[20:14] <rockyrock> usser: I'm not a newbie :(
[20:14] <CyberGabber> mmm4m5m: check menu SYSTEM/Preferences/Sounds, tab 'sound' is 'Play alert sound' on? otherwise i don't know.
[20:14] <usser> rockyrock, oh, sorry :)
[20:14] <istvan> i un-installed python by accident (didn't realize another version wasn't installed) - it took almost all my aps with it. I have backups, but is there another way to recover?
[20:15] <Rigongia> manikarta : type "which perl"
[20:15] <Ecner> can anyone please help me figure out why by cdrom drive can never work on ubuntu? :(
[20:15] <del_diablo> So, i ask again................. Please? Anybody know?
[20:15] <del_diablo> Anybody here got a clue on how to controll the fan speed of my computer? Its a laptop with mostly AMD/ATI parts. Its quite quiet under Windows, there is no settings in BIOS for about anything either. The only thing that somehow closely remote managed to fix it a little was quite the mess with powernowd
[20:15] <istvan> my backup software wash removed along with python so i'd ned a clean install
[20:15] <rockyrock> usser: I'm planning to do a LFS when my semester ends :)
[20:15] <Rigongia> manikarta : if it gives you no result then maybe you don't have perl installed
[20:15] <Malicia> Rigongia, trash perl :p
[20:15] <racecar56> Ecner, wats u cd drive
[20:15] <ZykoticK9> dassouki, what do you see if you "cat /etc/group | grep admin" - to we see it then?
[20:15] <del_diablo> istvan, sudo apt-ge install python
[20:15] <Ecner> racecar56: LG
[20:15] <del_diablo> istvan, * sudo apt-get install python
[20:15] <Ecner> but thats not really the point
[20:15] <racecar56> Ecner, ive never had one of them before...
[20:15] <istvan> del_diablo: i can't, if i do that from the recover command line i get errors
[20:15] <Ecner> it just doesnt mount
[20:16] <flintwingel> rockyrock: with that much RAM you might be better of looking at one of the reaaly lightweight distros like Damn Small Linus or Puppy
[20:16] <whatvn> xd4: but I think you must find what app make X start slow
[20:16] <usser> rockyrock, LFS is just, i dunno too much for me...
[20:16] <Ecner> its not the type of drive racecar
[20:16] <racecar56> Ecner, im using a really old computer with a sony and something else
[20:16] <istvan> the error is E: unmet dependencies
[20:16] <del_diablo> istvan, recovery cmd? Why not in a terminal in normal loggin?
[20:16] <racecar56> Ecner, compaq presario sr1020nx :)
[20:16] <Ecner> haha
[20:16] <istvan> because terminal was also removed
[20:16] <whatvn> xd4: try sysv-rc-conf
[20:16] <usser> rockyrock, too many things, which one should not be bothered with, to manage
[20:16] <dassouki> ZykoticK9: no output
[20:16] <marcusBIG> how can i see which graphic card i have?
[20:16] <racecar56> Ecner, i have 1g ram, it came with 512m
[20:16] <Ecner> i just need to be able to listen to an audio cd :(
[20:16] <Malicia> usser, LFS is nice :p I have an ArchLinux on my laptop, it's really awesome
[20:16] <rockyrock> flintwingel: so Debian won't be sufficient for me?
[20:16] <racecar56> Ecner, k
[20:17] <racecar56> Malicia, i always get stuck on it :P
[20:17] <Rigongia> MarcusBIG : type "lspci | grep -i video"
[20:17] <mathijs175> how can i keep my screen resolution after a reboot?(nvidia)
[20:17] <usser> Malicia, yea arch is great
[20:17] <whatvn> xd4: sysv-rc-conf gives you a list applications runs at system start up
[20:17] <rockyrock> usser: I'm a computer engineering student....so I have to miss with LFS ;)
[20:17] <ZykoticK9> dassouki, what are you running?  you should CERTAINLY have that account on any *buntu system?  what has happened?
[20:17] <Josinalvo> hi there ! I installed ubuntu 9.04 from a faulty cd. It is running, but i seem to be missing some packages. Does anyone know where I can get a list of packages of the default ubuntu ?
 its not a slow start, after gdm starts and i login, the desktop shows the panels and everything, after 60 sec the "supposed" autostart apps start
[20:17] <Malicia> racecar56, usser :D
[20:17] <Ecner> i'd hate to have to go back to windows just because i cannot listen to an audio cd, so i really hope someone here can help me :(
[20:17] <mmm4m5m> ﻿/msg CyberGabber in tab "Sounds" I do not have "Play alert sound"
[20:17] <dassouki> ZykoticK9: it's my host ... ubuntu 9.04
[20:17] <usser> rockyrock, nah debian should be  fine on 256mb no need for puppy or dsl
[20:17] <del_diablo> istvan, are you on wireless network?
[20:17] <ZykoticK9> mathijs175, run "sudo nvidia-settings" then save the settings in the GUI
[20:17] <flintwingel> rockyrock: it'll work, just don't expect it to set any speed records - try Debain with either xfce or lxde desktops
[20:18] <racecar56> usser, i used it once or twice but i never figured it out
[20:18] <usser> rockyrock, just be careful with your package selection, dont install bloat like network manager and such
[20:18] <mathijs175> going to try zyko, thanks
[20:18] <racecar56> usser, :P
[20:18] <whatvn> xd4: locate nameofsriptyoucreatedbefore.sh
[20:18] <Drk> Hi
[20:18] <racecar56> hi
[20:18] <rockyrock> usser: should I forget about Firefox?
[20:18] <flintwingel> rockyrock: the real kiilers for performance are the big desktops GNOME & KDE
[20:18] <racecar56> rockyrock, lynx ftw
[20:18] <Drk> !broadcom
[20:18] <racecar56> rockyrock, epiphany-browser too
 installing the  sysv-rc-conf now
[20:19] <Guest78261> hi all... im on 9.04 and mkisofs is not in synaptic. where would i find it?
[20:19] <darlek> kazehakase browser
[20:19] <racecar56> Guest78261, genisoimage
[20:19] <whatvn> xd4: locate nameofscriptyoucreatedbefore.sh , maybe you forgot something
[20:19] <racecar56> ya kazehakase pwns 2
[20:19] <del_diablo> istvan, if you are not then hitting ctrl+alt+F2 and then loggin inn then doing the install using apt-get--------- then using alt + left arrowkey to get back to the main Desktop window with grapics?
[20:19] <ZykoticK9> dassouki, how many when you run "cat /etc/passwd | wc -l"
[20:19] <racecar56> ctrl+alt+f1 exists
[20:19] <usser> rockyrock, yep firefox is pretty much out of the picture. it will run but you'll be constantly swapping in/out
[20:19] <istvan> del_diablo: i just got that to work. python is installed. is there a way for me to put all my apps back?
[20:20] <Guest78261> racecar56: thnx.
[20:20] <dassouki> ZykoticK9: 23
[20:20] <istvan> without doing each manually?
[20:20] <istvan> there were hundreds of dependencies and apps removed
[20:20] <racecar56> im trying to make my own distribution and when i run xdm it prints nothing and the login dosen't come up... what's wrong? its a remaster of ubuntu
[20:20] <rockyrock> usser: I feel like my laptop is useless :(
[20:20] <racecar56> rockyrock, welcome to the club
[20:20] <Ecner> i cant find my cdrom drive in ubuntu. can anyone help me find it?
[20:20] <racecar56> rockyrock, mine is much more modern, but it still SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS
[20:20] <rockyrock> recon1025: do you have an old machine?
[20:20] <del_diablo> istvan, i dunno. If you got your python back then just starting them could work
[20:20] <CyberGabber> mmm4m5m: Did you do anything with file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[20:20] <rockyrock> racecar56: what do you have?
[20:21] <ads__> hi i have a video documentary that  has no extension.. what video tools can i use to find out the container format and codec please
[20:21] <racecar56> rockyrock, hp pavilion dv9000 cto
 doing a grep on sleep 60 right now, it may take some time i guess
[20:21] <ZykoticK9> dassouki, so there are some users on the system.  when you said it was your 'host' you mean this is some sort of remote machine hosted on a provider somewhere?
[20:21] <istvan> can i see a log of the apt-get operations?
[20:21] <racecar56> rockyrock, it sucks so bad
[20:21] <racecar56> rockyrock, really
[20:21] <darlek> Ecner: from terminal does it show up in /media?
[20:21] <Drk> Hi, i have a laptop that i need to repair, but my USB'ed Jaunty wont recognize the broadcom chipset, and it won't load up the needed drivers, will madwifi help?
[20:21] <mathijs175> zyko, should i use the the save to x configuration button?
[20:21] <rockyrock> racecar56: why?
[20:21] <h2otox> hello, smbtree shows all computers and shares in my workgroup but when i'm trying to see the same within nautilus in "Network" > "Windows Network" nothing is displayed how can that issue be solved?
[20:21] <dassouki> ZykoticK9: yes linode
[20:21] <Drk> !madwifi
[20:21] <racecar56> rockyrock, slowest comp ever, i wanted a pentium III after seeing it
[20:21] <racecar56> rockyrock, thats how bad it was
[20:21] <del_diablo> istvan, i wish i knew <.< Just reinstalling python and in worst case a system reboot should be magical
[20:21] <ads__> what video tools can i use to find out the container format and codec please of a vidoe file
[20:21] <darlek> Drk, madwifi should help.  You'll need to search for the broadcom compatible drivers
[20:22] <Ecner> darlek: goat@goat:/media$ ls --- cdrom  cdrom0
[20:22] <rockyrock> racecar56: what CPU does it have?
[20:22] <usser> rockyrock, well actually it might even run acceptably, with slashdot youtube and a couple of other tabs open im a little over 256 right now. i also have a whole bunch of other programs that i could really do without if i had to, like wicd, gnome-power-manager
[20:22] <racecar56> rockyrock, intel centrino dou
[20:22] <istvan> does anyone know how to see the log of what apps were removed with apt-get?
[20:22] <racecar56> rockyrock, *duo
[20:22] <whatvn> good cpu :p
[20:22] <ZykoticK9> dassouki, sorry man - perhaps there security has removed admin access?  this isn't a situation i feel comfortable with anymore - best of luck (but every default Ubuntu should have an admin group - so something is VERY strange there)
[20:22] <racecar56> rockyrock, it sucks for me
[20:22] <Rigongia> Ecner : try "ls -lah cdrom" in /media
[20:22] <racecar56> rockyrock, bad, really bad
[20:22] <rockyrock> racecar56: very good CPU!
[20:22] <dassouki> ZykoticK9: thanks :D
[20:22] <Ecner> darlek: it shows as empty even when a cd is in
[20:22] <racecar56> rockyrock, are you kidding, i hope so
[20:23] <flintwingel> racecar56: you're doing it wrong then ;)
[20:23] <ads__> any video tools to find out container format and codec please?
[20:23] <racecar56> flintwingel, it's slow on everything, serious
[20:23] <racecar56> flintwingel, it may not be the cpu's fault, but it shure is slow
[20:23] <Josef1> hi
[20:23] <racecar56> flintwingel, i seriously wanted a pentium III after i used it
[20:23] <Ecner> Rigongia: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2009-03-15 01:20 cdrom -> cdrom0
[20:23] <Ecner> but its empty? :(
[20:23] <mmm4m5m> CyberGabber: ﻿'lsmod' show pcspkr is loaded. I have few blacklisted, but it is the default (evbug, usbmouse, usbkbd, eepro100, de4x5, eth1394, snd_intel8x0m, i2c_i801, prism54, bcm43xx, garmin_gps, asus_acpi)
[20:24] <koichirose> is somebody else having problem with flash on firefox and ubuntu 9.04 64bit?
[20:24] <mikepark> ads_: you don't know the file extension, is that correct?
[20:24] <racecar56> rockyrock, it's so bad a pentium III is faster
[20:24] <darlek> Ecner, probably hasn't mounted,  check your /etc/fstab file and post it to pastebin (ie cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit).  If you don't have pastebinit installed, sudo apt-get pastebinit
[20:24] <h2otox> can nobody help me?
[20:24] <flintwingel> racecar56: I run ubuntu on a Dell d600 1.6GHz pentium M w. 512MB ram and its fine
[20:24] <racecar56> rockyrock, at least for me, it may not even be the cpu's fault, though
[20:24] <racecar56> flintwingel, i have a similar comp
[20:24] <istvan> i don't seem to have var/log/aptitude
[20:25] <ads__> mikepark,  yea how can i probe for codecs
[20:25] <tanner2007> guysi just install a second ubuntu partiton but everytime it loads it freezez the bar and m keyboards lights keep flashing
[20:25] <racecar56> flintwingel, it's a compaq sr1020nx 1.8ghz celeron w 1gb ram (it came with 512m however) and it's pretty fine too
[20:25] <ads__> mikepark,  codec*
[20:25] <darlek> Ecner,then post the pastebin URL here
[20:25] <racecar56> flintwingel, just it's got a pretty weak gfx card
[20:25] <racecar56> flintwingel, it still works :P
[20:25] <tanner2007> wat do ido
[20:25] <mikepark> ads_: try file <filename> in terminal, it should at least tell you the type i believe
[20:25] <racecar56> rockyrock, it's 2gb ram, some hitachi hard drive
[20:26] <CyberGabber> mmm4m5m: If you didn't blacklist pcspkr , i'm out of ideas.
[20:26] <racecar56> rockyrock, im not shure if it's sata or ide, the connector is -WEIRD-
[20:26] <istvan> ahha, i found a log!~
[20:26] <ads__> mikepark, it doesnt only states data (tried that already)
[20:26] <racecar56> rockyrock, it came with vista which laaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..........aaaaaagged
[20:26] <rockyrock> racecar56: oh god, your laptop is great man!!!!!
[20:26] <istvan> however if i do cat dpkg.log it is to long for my screen
[20:26] <scubidoo> hi all
[20:26] <ads__> mikepark, i need an analyser of some sort to probe the file for container and codec info
[20:26] <racecar56> rockyrock, it sucks!
[20:26] <istvan> how do i scroll up in recovery terminal?
[20:26] <koichirose> is somebody else having problem with flash on firefox and ubuntu 9.04 64bit?
[20:26] <racecar56> rockyrock, this celeron is even better!
[20:26] <racecar56> flintwingel, oops i mean 2.8ghz
[20:27] <scubidoo> any one use a soundgraph vfd on ubuntu?????
[20:27] <rockyrock> racecar56: oh common you are too demanding, it's not the laptop it's you dude ;)
[20:27] <racecar56> rockyrock, =_=
[20:27] <ZykoticK9> koichirose, i've used flash on linux for years on server different distros on both 32 & 64 bit archs - it has always been a "bit" buggy, even now under 64 9.04 i have occasional problem with flash and need to close all firefox windows before it will work again - but Most of the time it work, and i can live with the "bugs"
[20:27] <koichirose> ZykoticK9: same problem here, I hate closing firefox completely every once in a while
[20:28] <del_diablo> How do i  enable "CPU frequency control"?
[20:28] <racecar56> rockyrock, look, a long time ago (not REALLY long, but not short) probably around ~2003 i had a comp, it was my first, it ran windows 98 se (i didnt know about linux) and it ran even better than this horrible laptop
[20:28] <racecar56> rockyrock, the comp itself was probably from ~1999
[20:28] <Slart> koichirose: well.. problems and problems.. but it was actually more stable using the flash version I downloaded from adobe than with the one in the repos now
[20:28] <Slart> koichirose: but it's still usable... I haven't switched back
[20:28] <koichirose> I am using the one from adobe
[20:28] <racecar56> rockyrock, it was assembled by someone from buches of other computer parts
[20:29] <racecar56> rockyrock, and IT ran better than this horrific laptop
[20:29] <istvan> i'm looking at system logs from the comman dline ctrl f12 but i can't scroll up, is there a solution?
[20:29] <Slart> koichirose: I used an earlier version from adobe.. not the one that is in the repos now
[20:29] <Rigongia> koichirose : maybe you should consider using the 32-bit version with nspluginwrapper
[20:29] <racecar56> rockyrock, i also (probable ~2006) had a hp pavilion dv8000 and it ran awesome, too
[20:29] <Slart> istvan: I don't think you can scroll up in a TTY
[20:29] <koichirose> Rigongia: how?
[20:29] <Slart> istvan: use less,more,most or similar to get a more ... friendly output
[20:29] <ZykoticK9> racecar56, you can't compare Win98 to any linux distro except maybe DSL type minimal things.  Win 98 is VERY basic - the internet was only just beginning to arive on the desktop at that time.
[20:29] <tanner2007> can anyone help me
[20:30] <Flare183> istvan: Try piping the result to less
[20:30] <Noccy> Hi all :) I'm browsing around at http://www.tjnet.com/software/index.htm to find drivers for my USB-to-Phone adapter that refuses to work. However, the download link is.. well missing :p
[20:30] <istvan> Slart: how do I do that?
[20:30] <Flare183> !ask | tanner2007
[20:30] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, my laptop is horrific on the console too
[20:30] <Noccy> Has anyone here been successful in getting a Tiger jet device working in ubuntu?
[20:30] <Slart> istvan: run your command and add   | less    or | more   or | most
[20:30] <ZykoticK9> racecar56, how much memory?
[20:30] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, anyway the comp with 98 i had was non-internet
[20:30] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, laptop?
[20:30] <istvan> so cat /var/log/dpkg/log | less
[20:30] <Spyderco> How do you mount *.isz files ?
[20:30] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, idk what the 98 had
[20:30] <Slart> istvan: so instead of lshw   you run    lshw | less
[20:30] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, i was a _NOOB_ with comps back then
[20:30] <ZykoticK9> racecar56, i mean on the current system
[20:30] <sveakex> tanner2007: are you the same tanner as before?
[20:30] <Rigongia> koichirose : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727 this is quite outdated but i think it could be a good starting point
[20:31] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, 2gb
[20:31] <Slart> Spyderco: what software creates them?
[20:31] <tanner2007> yes
[20:31] <ZykoticK9> racecar56, something is certainly wrong then!
[20:31] <koichirose> Rigongia: thanks
[20:31] <tanner2007> I installed a second ubuntu partition, now the new one loads up but the old partiton that contains my importent files freezes during boot the loading bar freezez
[20:31] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, tahts what im thinking
[20:31] <Flare183> tanner2007: Try booting with the live CD
[20:31] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, this old about-to-be-pile-of-junk computer im using NOW is better
[20:32] <manikanta> what is the use of  gcc and cc
[20:32] <manikanta> \can u pls detail
[20:32] <tanner2007> hw can tat help me access my old partiion
[20:32] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, it's a compaq presario sr1020nx, it's really old and it is working nicer than my laptop
[20:32] <koichirose> Rigongia: turns out I already have the wrapped one: /var/lib/flashplugin-installer/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[20:32] <ZykoticK9> manikanta, it's because of gcc that we have linux today - it makes this all possible :)
[20:32] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, i fixed it
[20:32] <Flare183> tanner2007: It'll let you mount everything
[20:32] <manikanta> what is use
[20:32] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, the compaq
[20:33] <tanner2007> so just b oot from cd?
[20:33] <manikanta> how can i use it
[20:33] <Slart> manikanta: google for gcc .. it's a compiler suite.. compilers for all kinds of languages.. with linkers etc
[20:33] <istvan> if i do cat /var/log/dpgk.log | less  - i get mostly blank stuff
[20:33] <Flare183> tanner2007: Yes
[20:33] <manikanta> and cc means
[20:33] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, i fixed it and now it's running nice. im on it right now as we speak
[20:33] <istvan> and i can't leave cat
[20:33] <Slart> manikanta: it's not really something you can describe on a few lines here..
[20:33] <istvan> ctrl+c isnt working
[20:33] <Slart> istvan: press q
[20:33] <manikanta> sorry i am new to linux
[20:33] <Slart> manikanta: nothing to be sorry about..  =)
[20:33] <Guest15597> testing
[20:33] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, that laptop is probably ~2 years newer than this comp
[20:34] <scubidoo> i have a problem whit lirc_imon and soundgraph 0036. any one can help me please???
[20:34] <istvan> Slart: how can i see the next page in cat | less?
[20:34] <Slart> manikanta: take a look here.. http://gcc.gnu.org/
[20:34] <ZykoticK9> istvan, space bar
[20:34] <manikanta> oko thank u
[20:34] <Slart> istvan: page down and page up
 thanks for the help, the grep thing is taking forever, gotta go get some sleep, thanks again
[20:34] <istvan> ah, thanks
[20:35] <negonicrac> test
[20:35] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, the laptop has a 3945abg network card, and when i'm 2 inches away from the router it has _BAD_ signal
[20:35]  * AghIrAS hi all
[20:35] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, wireless
[20:35] <ZykoticK9> is there actually a reason for using less instead of more?  i always use more just out of habbit but it this bad for some reason?
[20:35] <manikanta> wwhat is postgre sql
[20:35] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, intel
[20:35] <PhotoJim> ZykoticK9: less lets you go backward.  more does not.
[20:36] <AghIrAS> !voice
[20:36] <gazra> Can someone give me some suggestions about good Document Management tools?
[20:36] <flintwingel> manikanta: a high performance database
[20:36] <ZykoticK9> PhotoJim, thanks - good to know
[20:36] <istvan> i see a ton of stuff i removed, can i copy and pase from cat?
[20:36] <Inflixta> poweriso linux.  can anyone help me install please
[20:36] <AghIrAS> !voice
[20:36] <jlilly> how do I name a virtual desktop? Desktop #1 isn't very helpful.
[20:36] <rockyrock> where can I find RealTemp?
[20:36] <AghIrAS> MaSrY
[20:36]  * AghIrAS MaSrY
[20:36] <midnajt> one question when I update *nix will it update all apps that was in the updates list or only ubuntu self
[20:36] <tanner2007> i ryed to access my other ubuntu partition but all i see is a folder called lost+found, anyway it all got deleted?
[20:36] <istvan> Slart: can i tell apt to re-install all the stuff it removed today?
[20:36] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, the gfx card is a nvidia geforce go 7600, but it gets hot *VERY* fast and games from 2004-now are *LAGGY*
[20:36] <IRCMonkey> i'm new to ubuntu i just ordered a copy when will i receive it
[20:37] <ZykoticK9> istvan, what i think you're really asking is "can i cut and paste from a terminal" and yes you can
[20:37]  * AghIrAS MaSrY akhassn nadra9 i FL....
[20:37] <manikanta> is it supported for linux and how to use it and i had enough knowledge in orcale 11g and sql
[20:37] <istvan> ZykoticK9: this is not the terminal, this is ctrl+f12
[20:37] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, odd fact: some game i have from 1999 (3D) looks *BAD*
[20:37] <negonicrac> test
[20:37] <Slart> jlilly: last I heard it was something they had forgotten in the development of compiz.. you could rename desktops using metacity but not using compiz.. it might be fixed already though I haven't seen any option to rename desktops in compiz yet
[20:37] <IRCMonkey> but right now i'm on red hat linux
[20:37] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, YET there are newer and they run ok
[20:37] <Slart> istvan: not automatically afaik
[20:38] <MaSrY> AghIrAS
[20:38] <MaSrY> HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa !!!!
[20:38] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, i have no idea what is wrong with the thing, it's only a doggone year old
[20:38] <jlilly> Slart: huh. Something to be said for getting the small things right :-/
[20:38]  * AghIrAS MaSrY hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[20:38] <eseven73> AghIrAS, do you have a question?
[20:38] <istvan> sigh, my gui was removed, is there a way for me to repair this?
[20:38] <manikanta> hello ans pls
[20:38] <safruhani> hi, which rss reader do you recommend?
[20:38]  * AghIrAS eseven73 yes
[20:38] <istvan> for example install all defauly packages?
[20:38] <flintwingel> manikanta: it is supported on linux - best place to start is the postgresql website http://www.postgresql.org
[20:38] <racecar56> im trying to make my own distribution and when i run xdm it prints nothing and the login dosen't come up... what's wrong? (it based on ubuntu, remastered)
[20:39] <istvan> is there a apt command to install all packages that come with ubuntu?
[20:39] <Slart> jlilly: but they have to fix the shadows on the cube first.. it's waaaaaayyyy more important... functionality.. BAH.. bling rules the world ;)
[20:39] <ZykoticK9> racecar56, you keep messaging me but I don't even really know what your problem is.  what specifically is wrong?
[20:39] <guntbert> !ot | racecar56
[20:39] <fornix> istvan sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[20:39] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, my laptop is horrifically bad, this old computer from ~2005 works a -LOT- nicer
[20:40] <istvan> fornix: will that erase all my files and settings?
[20:40] <manikanta> it is personal are u the developers
[20:40] <ZykoticK9> racecar56, that's kinda beyond the scope of this channel i'd check some other channel?  no idea which one...  good luck
[20:40] <fornix> istvan. no.
[20:40] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, laptop has 2gb ram, nvidia 7600, intel centrino duo
[20:40] <manikanta> who r answering to us
[20:40] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, k
[20:40] <guntbert> manikanta: no, you will find few or no developers
[20:40] <Slart> Spyderco: did you manage to mount your isz file?
[20:41] <sveakex> is anybody using intel x3100, or know if it has good linux support?
[20:41] <ZykoticK9> racecar56, sorry man - i need something more then "horrifically bad" to work with (other then the specs of your machine, or how the old one is better)
[20:41] <manikanta> THEN U R ZOMBIES OF THE UBUNTU PRODUCT
[20:41] <Spyderco> no slart
[20:41] <Slart> !caps | manikanta
[20:41] <Spyderco> sorry I was taking a piss :p
[20:41] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, the older machine works a -LOT- nicer, that is weird
[20:41] <Gain> if I want to isntall flash should I just go to the adobe site/
[20:42]  * bc considers poking his eyes out
[20:42] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, yet it's probably ~2 years older than the laptop, and the laptop has 'higher' specs
[20:42] <Gain> i remember there used to be this package for extras for mp3s and what not
[20:42] <istvan> thank anything and everything for recovery mode!
[20:42] <Slart> Spyderco: no worries.. can you run "file nameofyourfile.isz" and see what it tells you
[20:42] <phyburn> does the 9.04 Live contain a installer to install Ubuntu>
[20:42] <flintwingel> Gain: ubuntu-restricted maybe?
[20:42] <sjokkis> hay guise. my harddrive is set up as a single encrypted partition, that is split up with lvm. i want to install the netbook remix instead of regular ubuntu (which i'm running now), but i'm only seeing the drive as a single partition. i can't figure out how to select the proper logical volume. help?
[20:42] <beatles> Can someone please help me? I can no longer access the internet in Ubuntu 9.04. It worked fine previously in Ubuntu 9.04. I am connecting wirelessly with a PCMCIA card. I can connect to my network but when I open firefox I get "server not found." I have tried more than one card but still have had no luck. I am duel booting with Windows XP and the card works f
[20:42] <Spyderco> Slart, ok
[20:42] <Gain> yes!! that's it flintwingel  is that default now?
[20:42] <Slart> phyburn: yes
[20:43] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, the old pc is a 2.80 ghz intel celeron (single, probably it's a socket 754 but idk seriously)
[20:43] <ZykoticK9> Gain, try to stick to the repositories as much as possible (general rule), it's certainly possible to install flash/mp3/etc within Ubuntu
[20:43] <flintwingel> Gain: no.
[20:43] <racecar56> ZykoticK9, the laptop is a intel centrino duo (dual core, duh)
[20:43] <phyburn> Slart, thank you
[20:43] <flintwingel> Gain: you still have to install it separately
[20:43] <Spyderco> oh Slart, isnt necessary anymore
[20:43] <Gain> ok will do
[20:44] <Slart> Spyderco: oh.. ok.. it might just be a zipped iso.. from what I could tell from googling
[20:44] <beatles> If I run sudo lshw -C network in the Ubuntu terminal it tells me that me card is disabled. The card works fine in XP
[20:44] <Slart> Spyderco: but if it's solved it's all good =)
[20:45] <AdamVidarsson> Hello there :)
[20:45] <AdamVidarsson> Does anyone have time to help me setup Wireless?
[20:45] <sveakex> hello adam
[20:45] <istvan> how do i get all of the apps that come with ubuntu studio on ubuntu desktop?
[20:45] <sveakex> AdamVidarsson: do you want to connect to a wireless router?
[20:46] <AdamVidarsson> Yes sveakex
[20:46] <istvan> if I do apt-get install ubuntu-studio will that work, and if so will it get all of the ubuntu studio interfaces, and settings too?
[20:46] <istvan> i just want the apps
[20:46] <Slart> istvan: it might not be possible.. (I'm not sure what the ubuntu studio people do with their distro).. but you could try adding an ubuntu studio repository
[20:46] <charles__> i just installed ubuntu, it gave me the password option but did not give me the option to choose username, and i cannot get a gui
[20:46] <AdamVidarsson> sveakex: Do you think you can help me with that?
[20:46] <sveakex> AdamVidarsson: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/wireless-connecting.html
[20:46] <xcv> xcv back in the room, this time with a vnc question
[20:46] <charles__> what do i need to do? is there a default
[20:47] <midnajt> yo people why didn't no one told me that you can listen to mp3 with just mouse over
[20:47] <eseven73> !root | charles_
[20:47] <midnajt> it scared the hell out of me
[20:47] <RaceCondition> what to do if I get a "dd: reading `/dev/sda': Input/output error" while running "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1024k skip=87516 seek=87516"?
[20:47] <Slart> charles__: ehm.. as far as I can remember it does ask you for a username.. there isn't a default afaik
[20:47] <charles__> i get a black screen asking for login?
[20:48] <Slart> charles__: and you never specified a username during the install?
[20:48] <sveakex> charles__: why did you not specify a username during the install?
[20:48] <charles__> never specified a username
[20:48] <charles__> it didnt ask me
[20:48] <Slart> midnajt: because it's a horrible feature we've all disabled =)
[20:48] <ZykoticK9> midnajt, install mpg123 and mouse over mp3 will work :)
[20:48] <sveakex> what live cd did you install?
[20:48] <ghostlines> Hi, the first time i connect via ssh I'm prompted for a password, but the second time I'm not
[20:48] <Slart> charles__: it's a clean, standard install?
[20:48] <charles__> yes
[20:48] <ghostlines> I'm trying pub key authentication, I never want to be askd a password
[20:49] <mikejet> Is there a way to tell firefox to pretend to be a IE8 browser on Windows?
[20:49] <sveakex> charles__: what cd did you use?
[20:49] <xcv> !vnc
[20:49] <ghostlines> can someone help me with this prob on ubuntu 9.04
[20:49] <midnajt> Slart: I kinda like but damn I was freaking scared, and how to disable that
[20:49] <Slart> mikejet: there are plugins that let you fake the useragent
[20:49] <charles__> ubuntu 6.06.1
[20:49] <AdamVidarsson> sveakex: There's no "Network" In administration, only Networking Tools o.0
[20:49] <Slart> midnajt: it's somewhere.. nautilus preferences I think
[20:49] <charles__> i have no other way of getting anything else right now
[20:49] <sveakex> AdamVidarsson: then give that a try
[20:49] <AdamVidarsson> Already have ;/
[20:50] <Slart> charles__: oh.. old cd.. really really old cd..
[20:50] <eseven73> charles_, 6.06 is pretty old
[20:50] <charles__> I realize...just dont have any means of downloading another one...building a computer for my kids.
[20:50] <Rigongia> ghost_lines : have you setup your sshd to accept key based auth ?
[20:50] <Slart> charles__: I'm not even sure you can upgrade to a newer one when you start a 6.06.. upgrades were weird back then
[20:51] <charles__> ok...well i have another harddrive...but need to get this install first
[20:51] <RaceCondition> does some Ubuntu package contain dd_recover?
[20:51] <Slart> !find dd_recover
[20:51] <Slart> RaceCondition: nope
[20:51] <Pahoni> Hi
[20:51] <RaceCondition> Slart: any ideas where I can get it to run under Ubuntu?>
[20:52] <ghostlines> does anyone have public key authentication working with no passphrase ?
[20:52] <ghostlines> in jaunty?
[20:52] <sveakex> AdamVidarsson: ok hold on
[20:52] <AdamVidarsson> oki sveakex =)
[20:52] <geoaxis> !jabber
[20:52] <Rigongia> ghostlines : have you setup your server to accept key-based authentication ?
[20:52] <geoaxis> ~jabber
[20:53] <beatles> Can someone please help me? I can no longer access the internet in Ubuntu 9.04. It worked fine previously in Ubuntu 9.04. I am connecting wirelessly with a PCMCIA card. I can connect to my network but when I open firefox I get "server not found." I have tried more than one card but still have had no luck.
[20:53] <geoaxis> no tutorial
[20:53] <Slart> RaceCondition: no big hits on google either.. ddrescue doesn't do it for you?
[20:53] <geoaxis> beatles: could it be some proxy setting
[20:53] <Slart> RaceCondition: you could try to find the source... if it's available
[20:54] <ZykoticK9> ghostlines, quick google did turn up this, might still be a bug? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server-bugs/2009-April/012017.html
[20:54] <sveakex> AdamVidarsson: try looking in your system try for network manager
[20:54] <beatles> geoaxis I don't use a proxy. In firefox I have always had it set to "No proxy"
[20:54] <xcv> trying to do reverse vnc, seems the support and procedure for that has changed with some releases. i'm running jaunty, 64bit, would like to do reverse vnc connections. what's the best practice for that currently?
[20:54] <midnajt> Slart: thank you man got it
[20:55] <AdamVidarsson> sveakex: can I open a private message window with you? for zeh ease..
[20:55] <Slart> midnajt: nice
[20:55] <sveakex> AdamVidarsson: sure go ahead
[20:56] <Slart> !away > bgupta|away
[20:57] <beatles> geoaxis should I be using ndiswrapper or madwifi
[20:58] <xcv> trying to do reverse vnc, seems the support and procedure for that has changed with some releases. i'm running jaunty, 64bit, would like to do reverse vnc connections. what's the best practice for that currently?
[20:59] <Slart> xcv: I'm not really sure what you mean by "reverse vnc"..explain it to me? please? =)
[20:59] <xcv> Slart: i will be the vncviewer, but i want the remote to initiate the connection...
[21:00] <Slart> xcv: ah.. like one of those.. I'll send you an executable file.. you run that and it will connect to my viewer?
[21:00] <xcv> Slart: they would instruct their vnc server to add a new client and then enter my ip address
[21:00] <Slart> xcv: ah.. that might work too.. yes
[21:01] <xcv> Slart: similar, but vnc, tightvnc, ultravnc have support for this, seems vinagre does not
[21:02] <xcv> Slart: i reviewed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299489&highlight=reverse+vnc
[21:02] <Slart> xcv: in my experience vinagre is a really bare bones vnc implementation.. I would stick with one of the more mature ones.. tightvnc, ultravnc etc
[21:02] <unknowncode> hi
[21:02] <Slart> xcv: mm.. I'm already reading that thread =)
[21:02] <kindofabuzz> anyway of making Jockey work in Jaunty?
[21:03] <unknowncode> i have a problem with my vga card
[21:03] <Slart> kindofabuzz: it doesn't? isn't that the new restricted drivers manager?
[21:03] <unknowncode> can anyone help me
[21:03] <Slart> !details | unknowncode
[21:03] <kindofabuzz> Slart, no it doesn't work at all.
[21:03] <xcv> Slart: and the others linked from there. I tried sudo apt-get install xvncviewer, got E: Package xvncviewer has no installation candidate
[21:03] <Slart> kindofabuzz: works on my machine
[21:03] <unknowncode> my card is ATi readon hd 3000 on board
[21:04] <ZykoticK9> unknowncode, what is the problem with your vga card?  do you know what make it is?  model?
[21:04] <kindofabuzz> i get an error after it tries to run for like 30 minutes, then just error
[21:04] <unknowncode> i installed the driver
[21:04] <dadrock> how to forcely install a service through terminal?
[21:04] <Slart> xcv: have you tried xvnc4viewer?
[21:04] <unknowncode> and i have a problem when i play a movies
[21:04] <unknowncode> when i make it fullscreen the pic stop
[21:05] <Slart> !info xtightvncviewer
[21:05] <halaliel> is having trouble with hulu & joost video none work for some reason other sites work fine.
[21:05] <Slart> !info xvnc4viewer
[21:05] <xcv> Slart: not yet. figured I'd check in here to see what the best practice for this is in Jaunty, before going on and installing anything i could find
[21:05] <phoenix2> hello how do i aktivate the 'doslike' window scheme while installing ubuntu? i want to use raid 1
[21:05] <ZykoticK9> dadrock, "forcely"?  you can install services, like programs with either apt-get or apptitude(sp?) on the command line.
[21:05] <AdamVidarsson> sveakex: moo
[21:06] <Slart> xcv: mm.. good plan.. I haven't used it myself on jaunty yet.. perhaps someone else has something good to recommend
[21:06] <unknowncode> vlc and movie player
[21:06] <nrg> what does 'Invalid module format' mean when doing modprobe ath9k?
[21:06] <unknowncode> the same problem
[21:06] <dadrock> ZykoticK9, i want to install apache2  by forcing it
[21:06] <RaceCondition> Slart: sorry, I meant ddrescue :) and it's running alraedy
[21:06] <unknowncode> with movie only
[21:06] <xcv> Slart: doing sudo apt-get install xvnc4viewer now. will let you know how it goes
[21:06] <unknowncode> the compiz work fine
[21:06] <ryanprior> How do I rip a DVD to my hard drive?
[21:06] <nrg> trying to install latest compat-wireless
[21:06] <ZykoticK9> dadrock, i don't understand forcing it?  "sudo apt-get install apache2" ?
[21:06] <tanner2007> guys no luck still cant access old ubuntu parttion
[21:06] <Slart> RaceCondition: oh.. because there is a app called dd_recover.. and one called ddrecover.. =)
[21:07] <RaceCondition> Slart: and also ddrescue and dd_rescue? :P anyway, I'm running GNU ddrescue right now that came with the gddrescue package
[21:07] <ZykoticK9> ryanprior, DVD::RIP is in the repo and good, Handbreak from getdeb is excellent
[21:07] <Slart> ryanprior: search in synaptic for dvd rip.. there are a few.. myself I've used acidrip a couple of times
[21:07] <Kalmi> phoenix2, um... I don't know what you mean 'doslike' window scheme... you could switch to an other tty... or you could use the alternate CD which is text based...
[21:07] <ghabit> Hello. How to switch between kdm and gdm (both are installed)?
[21:07] <Kalmi> !tty
[21:07] <sveakex> AdamVidarsson: moo
[21:07] <Slart> RaceCondition: great =)
[21:07] <pisecx> guys, what is rootfs, when I launch "df" and how to show device ?
[21:07] <dadrock> ZykoticK9, ya i tried that it says my apache is installed  but still its not running so i want to install it again forcefully
[21:07] <Kalmi> !tty > phoenix2
[21:08] <nrg> i get invalid module format for mac80211.ko and ath9k.ko
[21:08] <Slart> ghabit: at the login screen you should be able to change "session"
[21:08] <tanner2007> anyone?
[21:08] <Slart> pisecx: are you running a live cd?
[21:08] <brian_> Hello
[21:08] <ghabit> Slart: I mean gdm and kdm as managers, not gnome and kde as environment. How to set gdm to be default login manager (or kdm)?
[21:09] <pisecx> Slart: no
[21:09] <Kalmi> Slart... ghabit is trying to switch between two different kinds of login screen
[21:09] <ZykoticK9> dadrock, "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 status" in a terminal - is it running?
[21:09] <ghabit> Kalmi: Right :)
[21:09] <Turtl3> hmmm
[21:09] <Slart> ghabit: ahh.. ngh.. I've seen this somewhere.. can't really remember.. hang on.. let me get some coffee..perhaps it will come back to me
[21:09] <brian_> I have an HP Pavilion zd8000. I'm trying to run ubuntu livecd but it seems it cannot run X
[21:09] <ZykoticK9> ghabit, sessions is not the same as gdm/kdm - but i don't know how to switch
[21:09] <dadrock> ZykoticK9, nothing happened
[21:10] <ZykoticK9> dadrock, nothing?  did it as for your password ?
[21:10] <dadrock> no
[21:10] <thiebaude> !login
[21:10] <InfoMomo> anyone has the time
[21:11] <karab44> hi! I am looking for sftp or scp Symbian s60v3 !! !! pls help!! !!
[21:11] <Slart> ghabit: tried "sudo spkg-reconfigure gdm" ?
[21:11] <dadrock> ZykoticK9 ,no
[21:11] <ZykoticK9> dadrock, i don't know what to suggest
[21:12] <dadrock> ZykoticK9, actually i want to run joomla on my pc so needed a server for that like lamp or xamp .
[21:12] <ryanprior> ZykoticK9, Slart: thanks.
[21:13] <dadrock> ZykoticK9, for that i am installing all these services is therea ny other option
[21:13] <eseven73> +1 for joomla :)
[21:13] <Slart> ghabit: you might have to switch usplash too.. it might still say ubuntu instead of kubuntu
[21:15] <dadrock> Can any one help me out for running joomla on my pc using apache , mysql and phpmyadmin  ?
[21:15] <guntbert> !ask | InfoMomo
[21:15] <phoenix2> hi how do i activate the manual partitioning screen in the ubuntu installer?
[21:15] <pp3> como é que se contata nessa joça???
[21:15] <eseven73> dadrock, you'll probably have better luck in #joomla or #httpd
[21:15] <Slart> !br | pp3
[21:15] <phoenix2> hi how do i activate the manual partitioning screen in the ubuntu installer, so i can install softwareraid 1?
[21:16] <dadrock> thanks
[21:16] <Slart> phoenix2: don't you get a question if you want to use automatic partitioning or manual partitioning?
[21:16] <xcv> Slart: I can invoke xvnc4viewer in listen mode, but doesn't bind to the port I specify. However, that's another ball of wax. I'll fuss with it and see what happens. Thanks for the assist :)
[21:16] <abki> phoenix2: you'd better use the server edition
[21:16] <ZykoticK9> phoenix2, i could certainly be wrong - but i think it's only available on the Server version
[21:17] <karmelek> hello! how to detect which key was pressed?
[21:17] <Slart> xcv: hmm.. hope you manage to bend it to your will =)
[21:17] <phoenix2> slart: yes but thats in the graphical installer. there are no options for software raid.. i want to know how this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRKp6YBjLUc switches to that screen....
[21:17] <pan4o16> hi all
[21:17] <karmelek> if I remember well there was an app for it
[21:17] <pan4o16> i need some help
[21:17] <usser> karmelek, xev
[21:17] <ryanprior> karmelek: There are lots of keyloggers. Just use Google.
[21:17] <guntbert> karmelek: use xev
[21:17] <karmelek> ryanprior: keyloger was my keyword
[21:17] <karmelek> thx ;-)
[21:17] <pan4o16> Can someone help me to instal ati drivers
[21:17] <pan4o16> ?
[21:18] <Kalmi> pan4o16, older ati drivers?
[21:18] <Slart> phoenix2: oh.. I haven't tried the command line installer yet..
[21:18] <phoenix2> slart.. how do i activate that installer?
[21:18] <pan4o16> well 9.3 version
[21:19] <ZykoticK9> phoenix2, that is either the server or the alternate install CD - text only
[21:19] <Slart> phoenix2: command line installer? get the alternate install cd
[21:19] <Clickerz> chown -fhv -R Claviceps[:shell] /dir/file clavi[:shell] /dir/file <-- is this correct syntax to move file from one user to another w.out having root?
[21:19] <Clickerz> sorry I am noob
[21:19] <Slart> !alternate | phoenix2
[21:19] <Kalmi> pan4o16, um... from source?
[21:19] <pan4o16> ati site :)
[21:19] <pp3> somebody help-me...
[21:20] <Kalmi> !ask | pp3
[21:20] <ZykoticK9> Clickerz, that is NOT a noob command line!  lol.
[21:20] <Clickerz> hehe
[21:20] <Clickerz> sorry
[21:20] <Slart> Clickerz: what does the [:shell] thing do?
[21:21] <ZykoticK9> Slart, that's a variable for the users' shell, you'd put bash or something i'd imagine
[21:21] <Clickerz> like claviceps@shellname
[21:21] <antaeus_> hallo
[21:21] <Kalmi> pan4o16, where did you get stucK,
[21:21] <sybux> hi all
[21:21] <manikanta_> hello
[21:21] <phoenix2> slart thanks !
[21:21] <Kalmi> !hi
[21:21] <ZykoticK9> Clickerz, this is crazy what you're doing just sudo mv or cp the files then sudo chown --- WAY easier
[21:22] <sybux> i've got a little question about cron. ar cron.daily, cron.monthly, etc.. running automticaly or shall I configure crontab to run those ?
[21:22] <ldiamond> Can anyone help me out? I'm trying to install the latest Apache2, latest PHP, latest python, latest MySql, latest phpmyadmin, etc. But none of these are available through apt-get
[21:22] <Turtl3> python is installed
[21:22] <manikanta_> i am using dual booting windows vista and ubuntu when i am using vista can i have touch with ubuntu
[21:22] <Turtl3> you have to use terminal
[21:22] <Kalmi> !latest | ldiamond
[21:22] <ZykoticK9> sybux, i'm sure cron runs those automatically (but not REALLY sure)
[21:22] <ninadsp> ldiamond: do you have synaptic? if notm use the command line interface tasksel
[21:22] <xcv> Slart: success. the key is to not specify the port number. || rise@noon:~$ xvnc4viewer -listen ||  main:        Listening on port 5500 || =)
[21:22] <ghostlines> thanks alot to the dude who posted the link to the 'bug' with jaunty's public key authentication
[21:23] <manikanta_> how
[21:23] <penguyinmessiah> heyya
[21:23] <penguyinmessiah> how do i replace my mouse curser
[21:23] <axisys> why is the proftpd xferlog timestamp one hr behind the OS time ? (asked in proftpd chnl as well)
[21:23] <manikanta_> help me pls
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> ghostlines, np
[21:23] <Flare183> !ask | manikanta_
[21:23] <Slart> xcv: oh.. that's almost zen-like.. stop trying and it will solve itself =)
[21:23] <sybux> ZykoticK9 : not sure, i've looked around internet and got different informations
[21:23] <xcv> yep
[21:24] <manikanta_> while using vista can keep touch with ubuntu
[21:24] <jayandgina> Hello there
[21:24] <ZykoticK9> sybux, just add your cron job and test is all i can say, good luck.
[21:24] <jayandgina> I'm looking for some help if that's ok?
[21:24] <ldiamond> Kalmi: I need features of MySql 5.1 and its only mysql 5.0 in the synaptics
[21:24] <Flare183> manikanta_: I can't understand what you are asking.
[21:24] <penguyinmessiah> link to hwo to change my mouse courser
[21:24] <Kalmi> manikanta_, nor do I
[21:24] <Flare183> ldiamond: Get the source from the mysql site
[21:25] <manikanta_> i am having dual booting on my pc can i get the terminal of ubuntu when i am running my windows vista
[21:25] <Flare183> penguyinmessiah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[21:25] <jayandgina> Does anybody know, why the Visual Effects isn't working after updating to the latest version of Ubuntu?
[21:26] <Kalmi> jayandgina, old ati card?
[21:26] <ldiamond> Flare183: but then, how will I upgrade later? Is there a way to make myself a package so that when a newer version is released in the synaptics, I can simply upgrade?
[21:26] <Flare183> manikanta_: Umm you can't because you can't mount a Ubuntu Partition from Vista
[21:26] <manikanta_> Flare183:
[21:26] <jayandgina> Kalmi- it was working fine until I upgraded...
[21:27] <manikanta_> ok thank u sir
[21:27] <cronox> hy there
[21:27] <ldiamond> You can mount EXT3 partition using ext3 drivers for windows
[21:27] <cyc> re
[21:27] <Flare183> ldiamond: Use it until they get the newest version out, and then make backups of the config, and reinstall using the Ubuntu Repos
[21:27] <manikanta_> then what is the use of putty terminal
[21:27] <Flare183> manikanta_: Putty Terminal is for ssh/scp connections
[21:27] <ZykoticK9> Flare183, penguyinmessiah my 9.04 doesn't have a Pointer tab in Appearance Preferences?
[21:27] <sybux> can someone give me a copy of it's crontab ? for daily script
[21:28] <manikanta_> how to know the version of ubuntu
[21:28] <cyc> is there a way to get network manager to connect via wi-fi even is I don't login?
[21:28] <Kalmi> Flare183, putty for scp? eh?
[21:28] <Flare183> ZykoticK9, penguyinmessiah: You can, you have to open the preferences for your current theme
[21:28] <ZykoticK9> Flare183, penguyinmessiah sorry my mistake!
[21:28] <axisys> erUSUL, jrib : thanks for the suggestion on using inotify and incrond .. working charm
[21:28] <Flare183> !ssh | Kalmi
[21:28] <Kalmi> cyc, you can set it connect for all user... That's the same
[21:28] <ldiamond> Flare183: The problem is if I compile from source, theres no easy way to uninstall. It puts files everywhere in my file system and its a pain to find them all
[21:28] <cyc> iwconfig and wpa are PITA ... network manager works like a charm but I want auto connect to wi-fi ...
[21:29] <Slart> sybux: the crontab is usually empty.. what are you trying to do?
[21:29] <boruziux> anyone knows a channel where i can ask a question about sockets ?
[21:29] <ldiamond> Kalmi: pscp
[21:29] <sybux> Slart : it seems that my daily script aren't executed.
[21:29] <Flare183> ldiamond: Some makefiles are created to where you can uninstall the stuff by running something like this: make uninstall
[21:30] <ldiamond> Flare183: Ill give it a shot
[21:30] <vaul> People, have enyone come round app called "mail-notification"?
[21:30] <Slart> sybux: to run something at 13.30 every day you'd put something like   30 13 * * * doyourthing.sh
[21:30] <cyc> Kalmi the whole picture is: a box without display, accessed via ssh ...  but I want wi-fi instead of wired connection :)
[21:30] <Flare183> ldiamond: Hope it works out for you
[21:30] <cyc> Kalmi will check this option :)
[21:30] <ZykoticK9> Flare183, would not using Metacity void the mouse pointer however?  it doesn't seem to have any affect, which kinda makes sence cause i'm running compiz/emerald?  any other ideas on how to change to mouse pointer?
[21:30] <manikanta_> how to know to version of my ubuntu
[21:30] <ldiamond> Flare183: grrr, apache doesnt have that
[21:30] <sybux> Slart : i got many script for cron and it's in cron.dail, cron.hourly etc..
[21:30] <Pici> manikanta_: lsb_release -a on a terminal
[21:30] <Slart> sybux: hmm.. I'm not really sure how that's handled.. aren't there some directories in /etc/ somewhere?
[21:31] <sybux> slart : yes there are. but it seems not to be runned
[21:31] <boruziux> anyone knows a channel where i can ask a question about sockets ?
[21:31] <sybux> slart : can I have a look a log file ?
[21:31] <Slart> sybux: I've got a /etc/anacrontab that seems to do some stuff.. let me pastebin it
[21:31] <Flare183> ZykoticK9: Use ccsm to change our mouse pointer with Compiz Fusion
[21:31] <Slart> sybux: http://pastebin.com/f195e3036
[21:32] <Kalmi> Flare183, ldiamond, It's not me who asked the question... I know what ssh is... SCP stand for Secure Copy.... and you cannot use putty for copying.... I use winscp (nice GUI) for copying to/from windows machines...
[21:32] <Slart> sybux: which logfile do you want to see?
[21:32] <manikanta_> is it possible to upgrade from ubuntu to new version of ubuntu like kbuntu,x
[21:32] <boruziux> anyone network sockets channel?
[21:33] <mikepark> boruziux: there is a #sockets channel
[21:33] <Flare183> boruziux: Ask this in #freenode
[21:33] <boruziux> thanks
[21:33] <Pici> manikanta_: Those 'versions of ubuntu' are just ubuntu with different default packages.  Install kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop to get those too.
[21:33] <Pici> !flavors | manikanta_
[21:33] <WIGGMPk> manikanta_: I think you can just install kubuntu-desktop package and dit should do it
[21:33] <cyc> Kalmi this is a connection property?
[21:33] <ldiamond> Flare183: pscp = putty scp
[21:33] <ldiamond> oups
[21:33] <ldiamond> Kalmi:
[21:33] <sybux> slart : will have a look thx
[21:34] <ldiamond> Kalmi: Putty has a tool called pscp, which is putty scp, and is the equivalent of unix scp.
[21:34] <ldiamond> Kalmi: just letting you know.
[21:34] <manikanta_> from where i can get those
[21:34] <ldiamond> manikanta_: those what?
[21:34] <Kalmi> boruziux, well... stackoverflow is not a channel... but you will probably get help there...
[21:35] <manikanta_> kbuntu packages from ubuntu kubuntu
[21:35] <penguyinmessiah> wtf bbq gcursor wont work
[21:35] <penguyinmessiah> it wont open anything up
[21:35] <penguyinmessiah> the app will open
[21:36] <Pici> manikanta_: All of the official versions of Ubuntu (kubuntu/xubuntu) share the same repositories.
[21:36] <sjokkis> hi. after running an aptitude safe-upgrade recently my touchpad hasn't been working perfectly. i can still move the cursor around, but it no longer lets me click by tapping the touchpad. anyone know what might be up and/or how to fix?
[21:36] <ldiamond> manikanta_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:36] <Flare183> !kubuntu | manikanta_
[21:36] <TimBuck2> Hello. I'm considering using XFS, I am quite aware of how it performs compared to both EXT3 and EXT4, what I am wondering is how good the XFS recovery tool XFS_Repair is compared to fsck of EXT4 ?
[21:36] <ldiamond> manikanta_ this will install kubuntu
[21:36] <nrg> sjokkis, : had the same thing happen to me, there's a bug in the latest synaptics driver
[21:36] <nrg> you need to revert to the previous version
[21:36] <sets88> Do somebody know how to change speed of ftdi_sio port?
[21:37] <ldiamond> manikanta_ to use applications made for KDE, install QT
[21:37] <sjokkis> nrg: do you know how to do that and which version is the functioning one?
[21:37] <manikanta_> how to install qt
[21:37] <dassouki> is there a way i can start an X on a remote website ?
[21:37] <sets88> anybody?
[21:37] <dassouki> host
[21:37] <ldiamond> manikanta_ through APT-GET
[21:37] <nrg> sjokkis, : go in synaptic package manager and search for xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[21:37] <Pici> manikanta_: If you install the packages from the Ubuntu repos, qt will be pulled in automatically.
[21:38] <nrg> sjokkis, and downgrade from 0.99.3-2ubuntu5 to 0.99.3-2ubuntu4
[21:38] <Kalmi> dassouki, just a single app? or a whole desktop environment?
[21:39] <sets88> Guru needed!
[21:39] <ldiamond> manikanta_: sudo apt-get install libqt4-core (or maybe libqt4-dev), but the simplest way is to use apt-get to install a KDE program. This will get all the dependencies for you.
[21:39]  * Goldblattster runs off to find mark shuttleworth
[21:40] <ldiamond> manikanta_: maybe the synaptic package manager can help you too. or Applications->Add Remove
[21:41] <dassouki> Kalmi: whole desktop
[21:41] <m0u5e> hey anyone know where I can download the jaunty daily build iso?
[21:41] <sybux> Slart : just a log file to see if cron is running
[21:42] <Goldblattster> m0u5e: http://is.gd/K75P
[21:42] <m0u5e> that is karmic?
[21:42] <arkhalis> can anyone help with a wired ethernet port issue on 9.04? running eeepc 1008HA and can't get it to connect
[21:43] <m0u5e> Goldblattster: I wanted the up to date jaunty build
[21:43] <Goldblattster> oh
[21:43] <m0u5e> Goldblattster: so i can install without having to update... also apparently a few issues are resolved in the latest jaunty build involving some hardware on laptops and getting it to boot off the usb :(
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> Flare183, everything has an option in ccsm ;)  but I can't find the actual mouse pointer theme.  i have confirmed, by using comiz-icon, and switching between metacity & compiz, that compiz turns off the mouse pointer theme.  even using the "Advance Search" inside ccsm for mouse and pointer - don't "seem" to have the theme?  the saddest part is when i keep searching on google an article about "switch ubuntu to look like vista" keeps coming back on
[21:43] <ZykoticK9>  the first page -- sudder.
[21:43] <Slart> sybux: http://paste.ubuntu.com/184546/
[21:44] <Slart> sybux: just some lines from my syslog..
[21:44] <Flare183> ZykoticK9: Hold on
[21:44] <Pindakaas> hello, I have a probem using my WM5 mobile for Internet connection sharing
[21:44] <Goldblattster> I thought that was the latest. Sorry then...
[21:45] <istvan> what dir are programs stored in?
[21:46] <raylu> ZykoticK9: stop using ccsm and use the actual configuration app?
[21:46] <m0u5e> Goldblattster: thanks, sorry if I did not make that clear
[21:46] <m0u5e> so anyone here know where I can get the up-to-date jaunty build iso?
[21:46] <raylu> istvan: if you have a package in mind, use dpkg -L [packagename]
[21:46] <ZykoticK9> raylu, lol that's probably a good idea
[21:46] <Goldblattster> it's ok.
[21:46] <m0u5e> maybe like a jaunty net install?
[21:46] <Pindakaas> when I switch to Internet Connection Sharing on my mobile it stops seeing the mobile as an rndis0 thingy according to dmesg
[21:46] <Batty4> Hey everyone.  To make the LANG permanent.  Where do I place it?   A fix for some errors I was getting with g++ was export LANG=C   Do I place in /etc/environment or something like /etc/profile?
[21:46] <istvan> raylu; I'm trying to recover them from a backup
[21:46] <istvan> what dir should i get them from?
[21:46] <Pindakaas> syncing and file sharing on the other hand works using opensynce
[21:46] <raylu> istvan: they're not in a single directory
[21:47] <Flare183> ZykoticK9: Its there I know, but I can't remember where its at
[21:47] <arkhalis> I can't seem to get a connection for my wired ethernet port... the lshw says i have an unclaimed ethernet adapter... is there something i have to do to actually access the HW?
[21:47] <raylu> istvan: and there's no point in backing up programs. just reinstall them
[21:47] <raylu> arkhalis: lspci -v and ifconfig, please
[21:47] <arkhalis> one sec
[21:48] <raylu> Batty4: i think this has something to do with locale and gen-locale
[21:48] <arkhalis> raylu, message them to you?
[21:48] <raylu> Batty4: so /etc/conf.d/... maybe
[21:48] <raylu> arkhalis: sure, but pastebin would be easier for anyone following the conversation
[21:48] <arkhalis> ... /newb
[21:48] <arkhalis> pastebin?
[21:49] <raylu> !pastebin | arkhalis
[21:49] <arkhalis> thanks
[21:49] <Rascal> what a name of gnome systray?
[21:49] <Goldblattster> m0u5e: I am totally clueless. I can only find isos. I found more isos at http://is.gd/K7oj, but I don't think those are the latest build.
[21:50] <raylu> Rascal: i believe you can right-click to the left of it to find it's name. right-clicking on the gnome-panel itself and looking at the applets might help you. finally, try "ps aux | grep gnome"
[21:50] <arkhalis> raylu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/184551/
[21:50] <ZykoticK9> raylu, you're idea seemed so good (re Compiz config file) but where does compiz set it's variables?  as i'm not easily finding a config file, i'm beginning to wonder if their not get using gconf-editor - do you know as a fact that the config file exists?
[21:51] <arkhalis> i had issues with wireless but that was solved with linux-backports-modules-jaunty
[21:51] <m0u5e> Goldblattster: okay thanks
[21:51] <arkhalis> didn't seem to help wired though
[21:51] <nrg> I just fixed my wireless issue
[21:51] <raylu> ZykoticK9: uh...oops. i thought you were using simple-ccsm. nevermind
[21:51] <nrg> with ath9k having low signal
[21:51] <raylu> ZykoticK9: i have no idea where it stores the settings
[21:52] <nrg> had to download latest wireless-testing git and apply a patch
[21:52] <blz> fucking annoying autoconnect...
[21:53] <raylu> nrg: thanks for the info. friends of mine have been having issues with ath
[21:53] <eseven73> whats a good keylogger for Ubuntu 8.04? I've tried lkl, that takes up 50% cpu and doesnt create a file, and I cant seem to find xev or how to install it
[21:54] <yacc_> Anyone got an idea how to connect a second X server as the second screen of my main Xserver (:0.1 should be mapped to :1)?
[21:54] <tanner2007> wats he shortcut keys to acces terminal
[21:55] <raylu> tanner2007: there is none by default. system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts, unless you mean ctrl+alt+f1
[21:55] <nrg> raylu, : the patch at http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12390 works
[21:55] <arkhalis> you get my pastebin raylu?
[21:55] <raylu> eseven73: xev comes with X, i thought
[21:55] <raylu> arkhalis: yes
[21:55] <nightdrever> ok im new to this all......can anyone suggest things to install?
[21:55] <tanner2007> ty aylu
[21:55] <nrg> oops
[21:55] <popcornPanic> hi i created a new X server in :1.0 via terminal. how do i exit it properly?
[21:55] <arkhalis> k
[21:56] <nrg> raylu, : the patch at http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12390 rather
[21:56] <eseven73> raylu, yea it does, I just cant get it working
[21:56] <raylu> help
[21:56] <manikanta_> is putty is useful for linux
[21:56] <nrg> raylu, : the patch at http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12930 rather
[21:56] <raylu> ack, what the
[21:56] <nrg> damm keyboard
[21:56] <Rascal> qhat a gnome panel transparency?
[21:56] <ZykoticK9> nightdrever, too broad a question.  what programs are you looking for?
[21:56] <Conic> Okay, this is strange. I install Ubuntu, sound works great. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, use KDE for a while, reboot, sound doesn't work.
[21:56] <Conic> I check alsamixer, everything.
[21:57] <maveas> ? I've just installed the 64bit version of server 9.04 but it only shows 3.5 GB. What should I do? Enable PAE in some way?
[21:57] <Conic> It says ALSA doesn't work, falling back to pulseaudio.
[21:57] <ZykoticK9> Conic, KDE does use a different sound daemon then Gnome does - just to let you know
[21:57] <tanner2007> i deleted my ubuntu partitions how can i get windows boot loader back?
[21:57] <Conic> Then what do I do to get it to work?
[21:57] <Kalmi_> maveas, how much ram do you have?
[21:58] <nmvictor> how would i enable vlc's video wallpaper feature in ubuntu,is their a plugin or something i should install?
[21:58] <maveas> Kalmi_: 5GB + 256MB from my gfx card
[21:58] <usser> tanner2007, boot windows cd go to recovery console and type fixmbr
[21:58] <tanner2007> i dont have a windows cd =/
[21:58] <usser> tanner2007, if that doesnt work try fixboot
[21:58] <ZykoticK9> tanner2007, you need to use Windows to re-write your MBR Master Boot Record (which you could ask about in a Windows channel) -- or perhaps someone knows a way to uninstall grub from the live cd.  good luck.
[21:59] <Decessus> you don't need windows
[21:59] <usser> tanner2007, how can you not have a cd, you paid for your OS... sorry no sympathy here
[21:59] <tanner2007> hmm i dont haveno windows cd excpet ubuntu cd
[21:59] <Decessus> there are many available tools in a boot cd called Hiren's
[21:59] <tanner2007> when u buy a pc with windows init, u never get a os cd
[21:59] <Kalmi_> maveas, are you sure installed the 64 version? I'm sorry for the stupid question....
[21:59] <tanner2007> wait...i think i have one ut away somewhere
[21:59] <Conic> Actually, you usually do get a os cd with it.
[21:59] <maveas> Kalmi_: 100%
[21:59] <ignusb> does anyone have experience using VMware with ubuntu?
[22:00] <usser> tanner2007, or you can request free of charge or for a nominal fee from a vendor
[22:00] <Kalmi_> ignusb, go on... ask your question...
[22:00] <maveas> Kalmi_: I've just downloaded it from Ubuntu.com
[22:00] <tanner2007> hmmm ty brb
[22:00] <Decessus> the cd shouldn't be far from 60-80mb, but Hiren's Boot CD has saved me on more than one occasion
[22:00] <ignusb> I'm trying to set up a XP VM to run in unity mode, and having a few issues with the keyboard not being correctly detected by the VM.. i.e. it maps the 'down arrow' key to the 'windows' key
[22:00] <ignusb> and 'page down' to the menu key
[22:00] <dewayne> whats up playas and playets. i need help unlocking this phone tp. something isnt right
[22:00] <mmm4m5m> CyberGabber, usser: I think I understand what is my speaker problem... my case (motherboard) does not have real speaker. It is redirected to the sound card. With gutsy I used newest alsa driver - 1.18 (it was hard until I found how to make it). With hardy (now) alsa version is 1.16
[22:00] <Kalmi_> maveas, ok... have you ever used >4 Gb ram on that machine?
[22:00] <ZykoticK9> Conic, tanner2007 - as someone who has worked for Compaq/HP/Dell i know that most OEM pc did not use to come with OS disks - restore disks YES but OS disks NO.  I think since Vista that might have changed a little (FINALLY)
[22:01] <arkhalis> any luck?
[22:01] <emacsian> Hi, I have machines A & B in the same subnet with A being connected to the internet and A should be a proxy for B. A has only one network card. Can NAT be setup on A ?
[22:01] <tanner2007> restore desk cost money lol
[22:01] <arkhalis> i can't figure it out
[22:01] <Slart> Decessus: hirens boot cd falls under !piracy, I think
[22:01] <Slart> Decessus: don't recommend it here
[22:01] <usser> mmm4m5m, yea thats why asked if you had actual speaker on the motherboard ;)
[22:01] <raylu> arkhalis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7244375&postcount=17
[22:01] <ignusb> I've confirmed that the XP VM is using the "English (United States)" keyboard map
[22:01]  * raylu brb
[22:01] <dewayne> i need help unlocking my tp
[22:01] <maveas> Kalmi_: I've just installed the last 1GB yesterday. But BIOS sees it.
[22:01] <Kalmi_> emacsian, yes
[22:01] <Decessus> Slart, oh, I am sorry then :)
[22:01] <Conic> I guess if nobody can help me, I'm just going to use Gnome.
[22:02] <Kalmi_> maveas, odd... sorry... I have no idea... good luck
[22:02] <Conic> Or maybe just try rebooting.
[22:02] <dewayne> help help help
[22:02] <Kalmi_> dewayne, tp?
[22:02] <mmm4m5m> usser: yes, but ... it was working, that is why I had wrong idea
[22:02] <Conic> Oh, bahahahahahaha
[22:02] <dewayne> yep
[22:02] <Kalmi_> !helpme > dewayne
[22:02] <dewayne> ok
[22:02] <emacsian> Kalmi_: I did these two commands iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -j ACCEPT  it doesn't work though
[22:02] <Conic> I clicked the volume control thingy in KDE, mixer, then everything was muted.
[22:02] <Conic> Hahaha
[22:02] <arkhalis> hmm
[22:02] <usser> ignusb, that happened to me on vmware too. never found a fix, apparently its an ubuntu specific bug, they did something weird to xorg keymaps
[22:03] <mib_r0qe9l> Anyone able to help me quick, I can't seem to install, it cant find a kernel
[22:03] <manikanta_> what is freebsd and linux
[22:03] <Kalmi_> emacsian, it takes just one more command :)
[22:03] <Decessus> dewayne, Kalmi_ means what does the 'tp' stand for
[22:03] <racecar56> manikanta, freebsd is not linux, just to make sure u know
[22:03] <emacsian> Kalmi_: what is that ? :)
[22:03] <racecar56> manikanta, linux is the os that pwns windows
[22:03] <ZykoticK9> manikanta, they are both free OS - but check up on questions like this at wikipedia or google
[22:03] <gabriel> hi
[22:03] <ignusb> hmm, ok. now to go and find a way to hard-remap keys in XP...
[22:03] <racecar56> manikanta, and freebsd is a advanced bsd-based os
[22:03] <Decessus> linux is a kernel, that many os distributions use
[22:04] <gabriel> anyone know wy jack audio driver fails to load?
[22:04] <manikanta_> ubuntu is freebsd
[22:04] <mib_r0qe9l> hmm, if I umount the cd, will it download files?
[22:04] <raylu> version
[22:04] <TheFunkbomb> ubuntu is NOT freebsd
[22:04] <raylu> ack, sorry
[22:04] <usser> tanner2007, here http://communities.vmware.com/thread/177133
[22:04] <racecar56> ubuntu != freebsd
[22:04] <racecar56> ubuntu != bsd
[22:04] <poseidon> Is there a foss Rosetta Stone alternative?
[22:04] <racecar56> linux != bsd
[22:04] <emacsian> Kalmi_: I've also set ip_forward=1, is there anything else that I've missed ?
[22:04] <Decessus> ubuntu is debian based, which uses the linux kernel
[22:04] <usser> tanner2007, err not to you sorry
[22:04] <racecar56> freebsd == bsd
[22:04] <nmvictor> manikanta_: freebsd?hmm, unix-like distribution,not sure but thats more of unix and linux is a unix-like OS,try google for more.It wont fail you
[22:05] <eseven73> whats a good keylogger for Ubuntu 8.04? I've tried lkl, that takes up 50% cpu and doesnt create a file
[22:05] <usser> ignusb, here http://communities.vmware.com/thread/177133
[22:05] <Kalmi_> emacsian, oh... I was about to suggest ip_forward...
[22:05] <tanner2007> ok guys anyone have link to restore windows MBR from vista dvd?
[22:05] <racecar56> eseven73, do you know of a free one for windows?
[22:05] <Kalmi_> emacsian, I assume you have restarting since setting ip_forward
[22:05] <Kalmi_> tanner2007, #windows
[22:05] <racecar56> eseven73, ive been looking for a windows one for a long time
[22:05] <mib_r0qe9l> tanner2007, you shouldn't have to do much, just hit repair I'd think?
[22:05] <emacsian> Kalmi_: no i haven't
[22:05] <ZykoticK9> tanner2007, please go to windows support for windows support
[22:05] <calman_> anybody familiar with netcat?  I need to send a hex value but \x doesn't work
[22:06] <tanner2007> ok
[22:06] <shadowcast> can anyone here help me with xubuntu wireless problem?
[22:06] <emacsian> Kalmi_: restart network ?
[22:06] <shadowcast> i am new to linux and need some help
[22:06] <mib_r0qe9l> anyone able to help with a "no installable kernel found" error?
[22:06] <Kalmi_> emacsian, um... dunno if that helps... a restart would do it for sure... or run this: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[22:07] <emacsian> yeah i've set it in proc
[22:07] <ZykoticK9> mib_r0qe9l, your trying a 64bit cd on a 32bit system i bet!  or something like that.
[22:07] <Kalmi_> emacsian, oh... :)
[22:07] <ninadsp> calman_: afaik, netcat should not have ne problem whatever character you use...
[22:07] <phaidros> any chance to get compiz with the xorg ati radeon driver running? obviously since 9.04 fglrx unsupports the ati card in my t41p :/
[22:07] <Drk> Hi
[22:07] <mib_r0qe9l> can anyone see my msgs?
[22:07] <phaidros> mib_r0qe9l: yes
[22:07] <emacsian> Kalmi_: A has only 1 NIC card. so it would work ?
[22:07] <mib_r0qe9l> k, thnx
[22:08] <ninadsp> calman_: are you sending the hex value from a script or typing it out on the commandline?
[22:08] <mib_r0qe9l> anyone know what do do if ubuntu netbook remix won't install, keeps giving no installable kernel?
[22:08] <dewayne> is there a direct push for email out there thats a good one for Touch pro
[22:08] <calman_> ninadsp: I'm sending it from the command line after it does the TCP handshake
[22:08] <shadowcast> hello
[22:08] <phaidros> how to check if 3d acceleration is working? (glxinfo show direct rendering on, this should usually be sufficient, right?)
[22:08] <ZykoticK9> mib_r0qe9l, what system are you installing it onto?
[22:08] <Kalmi_> emacsian, oh... that first command... that shouldn't be eth0... that should be your external interface
[22:08] <mib_r0qe9l> Aspire 5535
[22:08] <calman_> ninadsp: would \x work? because when i look at the packet it sends literally the two characters '\' and \x'
[22:08] <mib_r0qe9l> ZykoticK9: Aspire 5535
[22:09] <Drk> phaidros: ys
[22:09] <Drk> phaidros: try launching compiz/opengl game to be sure
[22:09] <gabriel> how do I download jack audio drivers?
[22:09] <Decessus> hey, my thumb drive has seemed to stop auto-mounting, what do I have to edit to make it do it again?
[22:09] <emacsian> Kalmi_: oh, I have only 1 NIC card, so it isn't possible with 1 NIC card ?
[22:09] <shadowcast> i need some help with my wireless in xubuntu, can anyone here help?
[22:09] <ninadsp> calman_: i am not that great at netcat... did you check out the help page in /usr/share/doc/netcat
[22:09] <usser> phaidros, glxinfo | grep "OpenGL vendor string"
[22:09] <sjokkis> hi. network manager seems to be reactiivating my wired interface. this causes my wireless interface to disconnect. anyone know how to make network-manager behave itself?
[22:09] <usser> phaidros, that too is important
[22:09] <Kalmi_> emacsian, um... I guess I don't understand your setup than...
[22:09] <Kalmi_> emacsian, ADSL?
[22:10] <calman_> ninadsp: yep, nothing about sending raw hex values, and all the examples are using plain ASCII...it might not really be intended for this. a google result yielded nothing either
[22:10] <ignusb> on a different note, I'm a new-ish linux user, went with ubuntu for driver support and the community around it. I'm wanting to learn linux in-and-out as well as I know the microsoft range of products [MCSA], are there any documents or training manuals people can recommend for that sort of knowledge?
[22:10] <mib_r0qe9l> anyone able to help me?
[22:10] <phaidros> Drk: compiz is the problem for my question ;)
[22:10] <Drk> ignusb: try to explain yourself more
[22:10] <Metal> For some reason I cannot play any games or watch videos on youtube without it lagging to hell. Anyone know what my problem is?
[22:10] <phaidros> it won't start, but i think gl is working ..
[22:10] <Drk> !compiz | phaidros
[22:10] <emacsian> Kalmi_: yes, two machines A & B both on the same subnet with A connected to the internet and B is to access the internet via A. A & B are connected via a router.
[22:10] <alienkid10> Hi guys
[22:10] <WIGGMPk> how can you adjust the CPU Frequency scaling without gnome-panel?? the only way I knew how was to use those items you add to the gnome-panel
[22:11] <mib_r0qe9l> anyone?
[22:11] <ruler> when i open  a wepage it showing please contact the support departmant soon as possible and please have your site name ready what is the reason for showing this type of message
[22:11] <shadowcast> i want to configure my wireless card in the terminal, how do i do this
[22:11] <alienkid10> I am getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/184561/ when running apt-get update
[22:11] <usser> WIGGMPk, cpufreq-set -f frequency
[22:11] <Goldblattster> Can you help me? I decided to attach a FD Trinitron/WEGA monitor to my laptop. I use it now at 1024*768. I know this monitor and my graphics card are capable of more that that, but in the Display settings I cannot select any stuffs higher than 1152*864! I know my monitor and graphics card are capable of more that that, so whyy?
[22:11] <Decessus> hey, my thumb drive has seemed to stop auto-mounting, what do I have to edit to make it do it again?
[22:11] <Kalmi_> emacsian, how does B access the Internet?
[22:11] <usser> WIGGMPk, cpufreq-info to get an idea of what frequencies are supported
[22:11] <ignusb> I'm qualified and use my knowledge as a microsoft systems administrator daily, I want to be able to get the same level of knowledge for linux.. starting with workstation configuration, getting into how everything works, how to troubleshoot it, how the system works from the ground up
[22:11] <WIGGMPk> usser: ok how bout the options and each core? I am more used to the gui (IE: Powersave, Performance, etc)
[22:11] <calman_> ninadsp: any IRC channels i should check out?  i appreciate the help
[22:11] <ignusb> then moving to server configuration, chaining, grouping, possibly setting up an LDAP service
[22:11] <WIGGMPk> usser: thanks lol you answered before I asked lol
[22:12] <ruler> when i open  a wepage it showing please contact the support departmant soon as possible and please have your site name ready what is the reason for showing this type of message
[22:12] <emacsian> Kalmi_: I have to setup NAT on A, so that B accesses the internet via A
[22:12] <ZykoticK9> mib_r0qe9l, i don't find your model on the compatiblity list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks it's also unfortunatly not a listed model at http://www.linux-laptop.net/acer.html.  Sorry man i got nothing.  Best of luck.
[22:12] <emacsian> Kalmi_: possible ?
[22:12] <usser> WIGGMPk, ie cpufreq-set -g powersave
[22:12] <Kalmi_> emacsian, sorry.. how does A access the Internet?
[22:12] <usser> WIGGMPk, if you want to use governors
[22:12] <mib_r0qe9l> so, can anyone help me with No Installable Kernel?
[22:12] <ruler> when i open  a wepage it showing please contact the support departmant soon as possible and please have your site name ready what is the reason for showing this type of message
[22:12] <arkhalis> alright, so i have downloaded the drivers to fix the problem... but i haven't the slightest idea what to do with a .tar.gz file... /noob
[22:12] <WIGGMPk> usser: and is there a setting for each core?
[22:12] <raylu> alienkid10: host mirror.cc.columbia.edu, ping google.com
[22:13] <alienkid10> I am getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/184561/ when running apt-get update. How to fix?
[22:13] <raylu> alienkid10: if either fails, ifconfig
[22:13] <mib_r0qe9l> ZykoticK9: shouldn't it still install, manually?
[22:13] <ZykoticK9> mib_r0qe9l, ???  sorry man i got nothing.
[22:13] <WIGGMPk> usser: just a -c and the number for the CPU?
[22:13] <usser> WIGGMPk, cpufreq-set -c 1 -g ondemand
[22:13] <usser> WIGGMPk, yep
[22:13] <mib_r0qe9l> ZykoticK9: k, thanks, anyone else able to help?
[22:13] <alienkid10> host mirror.cc.columbia.edu, ping google.com
[22:13] <emacsian> Kalmi_: A is connected to the router and the router to the ADSL
[22:13] <Kalmi_> arkhalis, extract it first (right click and extract here)
[22:14] <WIGGMPk> usser: I really appreciate your help.. I just had AWN take over all my items and got rid of gnome-panel.. Is there a way to make these settings perminant? or is that not advisable?
[22:14] <Kalmi_> emacsian, and B is also connected to the router?
[22:14] <arkhalis> where does mozilla store downloads by default in ubuntu?
[22:14] <usser> WIGGMPk, what do you mean? which settings permanent?
[22:14] <Kalmi_> arkhalis, Desktop
[22:14] <raylu> alienkid10: ...?
[22:14] <nmvictor> arkhalis: desktop
[22:15] <WIGGMPk> usser: the frequency of the CPU's
[22:15] <alienkid10> raylu: ... now what?
[22:15] <Kalmi_> emacsian, um... why can't use the router for internet sharing?
[22:15] <Kalmi_> emacsian, um... why can't you use the router for internet sharing?
[22:15] <raylu> alienkid10: you were supposed to run those in a termianl
[22:15] <alienkid10> I did
[22:15] <usser> WIGGMPk, default governor is on demand and is set in the kernel i believe, but you can run a shell script on startup that sets it to a desired speed
[22:15] <raylu> alienkid10: and... what happened?
[22:16] <Font> hello there
[22:16] <alienkid10> host: couldn't get address for 'ping': not found
[22:16] <WIGGMPk> usser: is it not advised to set it higher by default? or with a script?
[22:16] <arkhalis> extract here gets an error - gzip: stdin: decompression OK, trailing garbage ignored
[22:16] <arkhalis> tar: Child returned status 2
[22:16] <Font> does anyone knows how I can join the translators team?
[22:16] <Kalmi_> Font, where are you from?
[22:16] <usser> WIGGMPk, it wont go higher than what is supported by the cpu/motherboard. cpufreq is not an overclocking utility
[22:16] <alienkid10> raylu this is happening while customizeing a LiveCD BTW
[22:16] <Font> Brazil
[22:17] <Font> Kalmi_: Brazil
[22:17] <kerebrus> Hey guys, have an Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 173.14.16,
[22:17] <kerebrus> but this NVIDIA driver component has version 173.14.18.  Please make
[22:17] <kerebrus> sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components
[22:17] <kerebrus> have the same version.
[22:17] <kerebrus> NVIDIA: Direct rendering failed; attempting indirect rendering.
[22:17] <FloodBot3> kerebrus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:17] <kerebrus> Signal: SIGSEGV [segmentation fault]
[22:17] <usser> WIGGMPk, you still have to overclock it through bios for cpufreq to see the higher speeds
[22:17] <emacsian> Kalmi_: yes, But I have this problem on my B - stale NFS file handle
[22:17] <raylu> alienkid10: those were two separate commands...
[22:17] <raylu> alienkid10: i split them with a comma
[22:17] <WIGGMPk> usser: I understand that, I am just not understanding why its set low by default
[22:17] <pan4o16> I am new to Linux and i have a problem with my screen resolution. It is realy low!!! What can i do??
[22:17] <raylu> !prefix arkhalis
[22:17] <raylu> !prefix | arkhalis
[22:17] <alienkid10> so run them on different lines
[22:17] <eseven73> whats a good keylogger for Ubuntu 8.04? I've tried lkl, that takes up 50% cpu and doesnt create a file
[22:17] <raylu> alienkid10: yes
[22:18] <kerebrus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/184564/plain/
[22:18] <emacsian> Kalmi_: and /etc/resolv.conf is not editable thus I can only access the internet if I know the ip address of the website
[22:18] <usser> WIGGMPk, thats the decision made by kernel developers, beats me too. been looking for solution myself with not much luck so i just a script that sets it to what i want
[22:18] <Kalmi_> Font, try at #ubuntu-br
[22:18] <Font> no one responds
[22:18] <AdamVidars> Hey does anyone have some time to help me with a little explaining and stuff? :P
[22:18] <Font> :/
[22:18] <AdamVidars> No major shit, just need 1 thing to get going
[22:18] <arkhalis> !tab
[22:18] <arkhalis> blah
[22:18] <WIGGMPk> usser: well I really appreciate your help.. I was looking around the net for a better solution.. Thanks for the info and the education
[22:18] <raylu> emacsian: things in /etc/ require root permissions to edit, of course
[22:18] <usser> WIGGMPk, i put this in my ~/.bashrc cpufreq-set -f 900000
[22:19] <usser> WIGGMPk, no problem
[22:19] <strazca> caute
[22:19] <kerebrus> Having issues with an game error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/184564/plain/
[22:19] <alienkid10> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached for the first one and ping: unknown host google.com on the second one.
[22:19] <emacsian> raylu: welll I have the root password and the problem is it is not editable, ls -l gives error NFS stale file handle
[22:19] <guntbert> !ohmy | AdamVidars
[22:19] <raylu> emacsian: /etc/ is mounted on NFS?
[22:19] <Kalmi_> emacsian, slow down... /etc/resolv.conf is not editable... you shouldn't need to edit it... your DNS setting are messed up...
[22:20] <raylu> kerebrus: sounds like you didn't install nvidia drivers from the repositories
[22:20] <strazca> som tu dobre ? hladam pomoc potrebujem nastavit efekty ale nieco mam s grafikou
[22:20] <Kalmi_> !en | strazca
[22:20] <AdamVidars> I'm having problems with installing programs and stuff, can anyone help me? =O I have this .run file but cant open it
[22:20] <jakupl> hi... I live in a dormitory and I want to be able to remotely ssh to my computers, how in earth do I do that... is it possible that my ISP has blocked ssh?
[22:20] <kerebrus> raylu: I downloaded them from synaptic
[22:20] <Kalmi_> emacsian, you can set DNS setting with the network-manager applet
[22:20] <erUSUL> !software | AdamVidars
[22:20] <je||y> why is it important to download 64 bit ubuntu if you have a 64 bit pc?
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, just reinstall nvidia
[22:21] <alienkid10> for i in /etc/resolv.conf /etc/hosts /etc/hostname; do sudo cp -pv $i ${WORK}/rootfs/etc/; done
[22:21] <alienkid10> whoops
[22:21] <alienkid10> sorry
[22:21] <raylu> !sk | strazca
[22:21] <emacsian> Kalmi_: no the file system is messed up and thus DHCP isn't able to writ the DNS address in that
[22:21] <Kalmi_> jakupl, unlikely...
[22:21] <ldiamond> i finally decided to install the older version of MySql using the synaptic package manager, however, it fails to install.... what can I do?
[22:21] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9: heck no just got that working again lol
[22:21] <emacsian> Kalmi_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-370833.html - i have the exact same problem
[22:21] <alienkid10> raylu: copyed my net config to CD and it worked
[22:21] <jakupl> Kalmi_ is there a way to check it?
[22:22] <Kalmi_> jakupl, have you installed the openssh-server package?
[22:22] <emacsian> Kalmi_: oops wrong link
[22:22] <je||y> why is it important to download 64 bit ubuntu if you have a 64 bit pc?
[22:22] <jakupl> Kalmi_ yes, well I installed the ssh metapackage
[22:22] <Font> Kalmi_: found out how. I'm leaving, see you and thanks. :)
[22:22] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, didn't you post the pastbin with the Nvidia kernel mismatch?  that error means the kernel may have been updated but the nvidia modules havent -- or the opposite is true.
[22:23] <jakupl> Kalmi_ ssh works, but only local
[22:23] <Kalmi_> jakupl, do you have a router?
[22:23] <jakupl> Kalmi_ yes.
[22:23] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9: yes I did but, ive tried updating the drivers in the past and it broke my xserv. just got it all working togethor again. Can I just reinstall the game?
[22:23] <Kalmi_> jakupl, do you know what port forwarding is?
[22:24] <emacsian> Kalmi_:  I have the exact same problem as described here - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1064331.html
[22:24] <jakupl> Kalmi_ yes, but I have never tried it... it seems intimidating. :)
[22:24] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, with that error i doubt you have 3d excelleration -- perhaps your in 2d model?
[22:24] <Kalmi_> jakupl, :D
[22:24] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9: how would I find that out?
[22:25] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, "glxinfo | grep direct" might tell us?
[22:25] <Kalmi_> jakupl, your router blocks any incoming connections by defualt... :)
[22:25] <jakupl> Kalmi_ well I don't really know what it is... but that is what I need to do right? I can read up on some documentation.
[22:25] <je||y> why is it important to download 64 bit ubuntu if you have a 64 bit pc?
[22:25] <emacsian> Kalmi_: the solution says fix the filesystem with gparted and fsck. the problem is I don't have a CD drive nor USB boot works, so cannot really fix the filesystem.
[22:25] <gbear14275> is the "disk usage analyzer" an ubuntu or debian app?
[22:25] <jakupl> Kalmi_ oh ok...
[22:25] <gbear14275> er... I meant gnome
[22:26] <gbear14275> I was trying to tell a friend how to use it on his debian machine but he says he doesn't have it
[22:26] <ZykoticK9> je||y, it's not.  only if you want to address more then 4GB or RAM -- BUT it's more complicated then 32bit
[22:26] <usser> gbear14275, he doesnt have du ?
[22:26] <jakupl> Kalmi_ so I need to make my router assign port 22 to ssh... or have I got it backwards?
[22:26] <raylu> je||y: the short answer is, it's not
[22:26] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9: gave the same error as what I posted
[22:26] <tanner2007> ok guys i fixed my MBR but now when i go to install ubuntu it says no OS or detected and only gives me the option to install over my entire hard drve, but of course if i do that windows visat will be over wrtitten, what do i do
[22:26] <raylu> je||y: what ZykoticK9 said. also, 64-bit is a bit faster
[22:26] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, ya so you don't have 3d
[22:26] <raylu> je||y: though most users won't notice the difference and don't want to deal with compatibility issues that it entails
[22:27] <AdamVidars> Can anyone help me running my .run file on desktop ? :-p
[22:27] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9: I have the nvidia-glx drivers installed? How do I fix the issue?
[22:27] <je||y> raylu: how much faster?
[22:27] <fccf-starbucks> je||y: that really depends... some software isn't compiled in 64 bit, but the software that is built in 64 bit will run alot faster
[22:27] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, reinstall them - as i initially suggested :)
[22:27] <raylu> je||y: 5-10%, depending on the code. function calls are much cleaner, but it happens at a low level and isn't really an issue most of the time
[22:27] <guyzmo> hi
[22:27] <Kalmi_> jakupl, yeah... something like... you have to tell it that you want any incoming connection coming to port 22 to be forwarded to your machine's ip to port 22
[22:27] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9: lol that broke them the last time I tried that
[22:27] <manikanta_> how to use .bin files
[22:27] <jakupl> Kalmi_ I will upload a picture of the wireless router configuration thing
[22:28] <Kalmi_> jakupl, I don't want that
[22:28] <guyzmo> how do I make dhclient3 launched automatically and properly on launch ?
[22:28] <je||y> raylu: what does that mean?
[22:28] <jakupl> Kalmi_ ok
[22:28] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, are you using the driver from the repo (the default repo)?
[22:28] <raylu> guyzmo: don't. networkmanager
[22:28] <bill_lm> alguém do Brasil?
[22:28] <guyzmo> raylu - well, I configured networkmanager, but it stays unhappy
[22:28] <guntbert> !br | bill_lm
[22:28] <raylu> je||y: i mean that there are twice as many registers in 64-bit processors and 64-bit OSs use all of them, so the way the stack is handled is now cleaner and faster
[22:28] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9: yes
[22:28] <guyzmo> raylu - sorry for being oldschool, but I can't get rid of the /!\ logo even when I configured the network through it
[22:29] <tanner2007> one have any clue
[22:29] <guyzmo> (so a ifconfig eth0... is easier imho)
[22:29] <guyzmo> (when it's static)
[22:29] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, well, i'd still recommend you try reinstall the nvidia stuff - it's the only way to solve the kernel/module version error.
[22:30] <fccf-starbucks> guyzmo - the /!\ logo is the updater
[22:30] <bill_lm> vc fala portugues?
[22:30] <Kalmi_> AdamVidars, what are you tring to install? and why?
[22:30] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9: and if that doesnt fix the issue?
[22:30] <raylu> guyzmo: static? oh. /etc/network/interfaces... i think
[22:30] <guntbert> !br > bill_lm
[22:30] <manikanta_> how to make use of .bin
[22:30] <raylu> guyzmo: maybe "man interfaces"
[22:30] <je||y> raylu: but i should only see the difference on the programs that were designed for 64 bit? and even then only 5-10%?
[22:30] <Kalmi_> manikanta_, cd image?
[22:30] <midnajt_> ok sudo apt-get update didn't work error " NO_PUBKEY "
[22:30] <Kalmi_> Kalmi_, or installer?
[22:30] <Kalmi_> manikanta_, or installer?
[22:31] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/339757
[22:31] <raylu> je||y: you should only see a major diffference in programs that use lots of function calls. highly recursive algorithms, perhaps
[22:31] <midnajt_> how do I get the public key
[22:31] <farchumbre> hi, I have a problem with updating ubuntu
[22:31] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, reinstalling will fix the issue about kernel/module mismatch - but that could lead to a whole different issue - but right now you have 2d graphics, your probably running in vesa or nv equivalent driver (which is NO good for gaming)
[22:31] <raylu> je||y: arguably, badly written code :P
[22:31] <DanaG> I _hate_ when people mark non-duplicates as duplicates, because they misunderstand what the bug report is about.
[22:31] <bill_lm> ola pessoal gostaria de ajuda com a minha rede!
[22:31] <manikanta_> i  downloaded postgre it is in the form of postgresql-8.3.7-1-linux.bin
[22:31] <raylu> je||y: the point is, there's not much difference in speed. the major thing it brings to the table is the >4GB virtual memory
[22:31] <bill_lm> alguém pode me ajudar?
[22:31] <farchumbre> I deleted all the deb packages that appear in 'computer janitor'
[22:31] <Kalmi_> farchumbre, go on...
[22:31] <alex_dinamo> guys... I need help upgrading from 8.4 to 9.04
[22:32] <farchumbre> and since then i can't get any updates
[22:32] <manikanta_> how to istall the postgersql
[22:32] <Kalmi_> !upgrade > alex_dinamo
[22:32] <alex_dinamo> I am using an alternate ISO image loop mounted
[22:32] <Kalmi_> !software > manikanta_
[22:32] <jakupl> Kalmi_ yaaay it worked :) tankyou
[22:32] <alex_dinamo> the update seg faults
[22:32] <AdamVidars> Can anyone just tell me how to 'run' a file? >< theres no command called run :S
[22:32] <Kalmi_> jakupl, yw :)
[22:32] <je||y> how do you find out if your pc has more than 4GB virtual memory?
[22:32] <alex_dinamo> I know the instructions, ubottu
[22:32] <lovinglinux> Hi all. I was wondering if there is anyone with a P4 3.06Ghz HT here that would like to compare Firefox benchmarks with me?
[22:32] <Kalmi_> AdamVidars, what are you tring to install and why?
[22:33] <lovinglinux> bill_lm: qual seu problema?
[22:33] <alex_dinamo> but this is the third attempt, and it doesn't work
[22:33] <ZykoticK9> AdamVidars, (if the file is set to executable) open a terminal and then type "./NAME_OF_FILE.bin" - good luck
[22:33] <DanaG> yo, isn't postgresql in the package manager?
[22:33] <alex_dinamo> is anyone here willing to listen?
[22:33] <quinn> hello
[22:33] <raylu> !anyone | alex_dinamo
[22:33] <raylu> je||y: uh...
[22:33] <raylu> je||y: virtual memory is a concept the kernel maintains
[22:33] <alex_dinamo> ubottu, I just said it
[22:33] <raylu> je||y: you mean physical memory?
[22:33] <guntbert> midnajt_: see https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA (a bit farther down on that page)
[22:34] <raylu> alex_dinamo: ubottu is telling you to _not_ say it
[22:34] <alex_dinamo> ubottu, ugrade segfaults
[22:34] <AdamVidars> ZykoticK9: I tried that .. :S
[22:34] <je||y> raylu> je||y: the point is, there's not much difference in speed. the major thing it brings to the table is the >4GB virtual memory
[22:34] <lovinglinux> alex_dinamo: ubottu is a bot.
[22:34] <ldiamond> i finally decided to install the older version of MySql using the synaptic package manager, however, it fails to install.... what can I do?
[22:34] <raylu> je||y: yeah. the 64-bit OS has more than 4GB of virtual memory. it has nothing to do with your physical memory
[22:34] <alex_dinamo> great... a bot
[22:34] <raylu> je||y: virtual memory maps to physical memory, though
[22:34] <emacsian> Kalmi_: I hope you got my problem, or do I explain again
[22:34] <alex_dinamo> anyone _real_ here that has any idea?
[22:35] <raylu> je||y: so if you have 4 or more GB of physical memory, you won't be able to ues it all
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> AdamVidars, so in the terminal first run "chmod +x ./FILENAME.bin" then try "./FILENAME.bin"
[22:35] <bill_lm> estou usando 9.04 meu note esta como server, e toda vez que vou passar uma grande quantidade de dados para outo pc ele trava
[22:35] <raylu> je||y: *use
[22:35] <guntbert> !patience | alex_dinamo
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> AdamVidars, remember i have NO idea what your running!!!
[22:35] <raylu> !es | bill_lm
[22:35] <lovinglinux> alex_dinamo: sometimes it gives nice tips. I new about a very nice script because of it. So, it's a bot, but it is useful.
[22:35] <farchumbre> I DELETED ALL DEB PACKAGES THAT APPEAR IN  'COMPUTER JANITOR' AND NOW I CAN'T UPDATE UBUNTU ANY MORE. UPDATE MANAGER ALWAYS SAYS THAT THE SYSTEM IS UP-TO-DATE, FOR A MONTH ALREADY
[22:35] <raylu> !details | alex_dinamo
[22:35] <alex_dinamo> this is my third attempt at upgrading... and I am not a newbie.. maybe something escapes me, but I am not a newbie, and upgrade either segfaults or breaks with a message about a python package
[22:35] <raylu> farchumbre: "sudo aptitude update"
[22:35] <DanaG> !caps | farchumbre
[22:36] <farchumbre> THANKS
[22:36] <raylu> alex_dinamo: perform the upgrade and show us the output?
[22:36] <Weed37> trying to get wine working any ideas guys or is there a chan on this server ?
[22:36] <AdamVidars> ZykoticK9:  It's Enemy Territory game setup, but theres a thing I dno how to CD to the desktop :$:P
[22:36] <pizzledizzle> is it possible to remap alt-f1 to a single key in X?
[22:36] <axisys> where is the correct place to drop a script called by cronjob.. i have it in my home dir write now.. i could make a /usr/cron dir and keep the cron scripts in there .. suggestions?
[22:36] <bill_lm> um exemplo é se passo uma imagem de dvd  e trava e tenho que reiniciar na força
[22:36] <raylu> !work | Weed37
[22:36] <DanaG> !info postgresql
[22:36] <raylu> what's with the flood of inspecific questions?
[22:36] <yasasvy1> farchumbre: or try update-manager -c
[22:36] <DanaG> Look, postgresql is in the repos... why not use it?
[22:36] <farchumbre> ubottu: what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get
[22:36] <Kalmi_> emacsian, um... get a CD.... sorry, I have no idea how to run fsck online... :S
[22:36] <ZykoticK9> AdamVidars, "cd Desktop" with a capital D
[22:36] <raylu> axisys: who's crontab?
[22:36] <Weed37> i am looking for the wine help chanell
[22:36] <axisys> raylu: root's
[22:36] <AdamVidars> ah that worked ZykoticK9 thx :P
[22:36] <je||y> raylu do you mean "if I don't have 4 GB of PHYSICAL memory, I wont be able to use all of my VIRTUAL memory?"
[22:37] <raylu> !aptitude | farchumbre
[22:37] <ninadsp> axisys: /etc/cron.daily maybe? if its a daily one...
[22:37] <emacsian> Kalmi_: yeah that's the real problem, the CD drive doesn't work
[22:37] <eseven73> My apt-get is repeating twice for everything even apt-cache search, and it takes a long time to read "Reading Database"
[22:37] <raylu> je||y: no. you always have 4GB of virtual memory with a 32-bit OS
[22:37] <alex_dinamo> gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" -> upgrade window opens, then disappears
[22:37] <axisys> ninadsp: no it is a cronjob belongs to root runs as fs changes ..
[22:37] <alex_dinamo> or
[22:37] <raylu> je||y: some of it maps to physical memory, and hopefully the rest of it maps to swap or is unpaged
[22:37] <alex_dinamo> gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" -> segmentation fault
[22:37] <DanaG> manikanta_: yo, why not use the packaged postgresql?
[22:37] <guntbert> !wine | Weed37
[22:38] <Kalmi_> emacsian, PXE boot :D
[22:38] <alex_dinamo> this is a newly installed 8.10, I just kept my home
[22:38] <raylu> eseven73: /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:38] <Kalmi_> emacsian, PXE booting is a lot of fun...
[22:38] <AdamVidars> how can I enable so I get write permission to evrything? ><
[22:38] <raylu> axisys: perhaps /root
[22:38] <emacsian> Kalmi_ oh yeah :)
[22:38] <ninadsp> axisys: if its root, then more the reason for it to be in /etc/cron.* directories...
[22:38] <AdamVidars> Cause I cant install the game now to /usr/local/games/ ><
[22:38] <angus_> Hi folks, stuck a dvd in I wanted to watch, movie player says I don't have permission. What gives?
[22:38] <lovinglinux> bill_lm: o que você está usando para tranferência? Samba, ssh?
[22:38] <DanaG> !libdvdcss
[22:38] <ZykoticK9> AdamVidars, you cant!  this is not Windows!  thank heavens :)
[22:38] <alex_dinamo> raylu, did you read that
[22:38] <midnajt_> guntbert: thx that helped
[22:38] <ninadsp> angus_: libdvdcss?
[22:38] <ed_debian> AdamVidars, Having permission to everything in the filesystem is bad
[22:38] <Kalmi_> emacsian, oh... I got an idea... you could add gparted to grub and boot it into ram... I have done that once
[22:38] <je||y> raylu: im thoroughly confused
[22:38] <ruler> did ubuuntu have audio and video converter
[22:39] <raylu> alex_dinamo: yes. not familiar with cdromupgrade, sorry
[22:39] <guntbert> midnajt_: fine :)
[22:39] <Kalmi_> emacsian, I mean the livecd
[22:39] <lusepuster_> Hello  channel; can anyone tell me how I can get my tv-.out to work?  Is the tv supposed to  show up in the Screens menu?
[22:39] <alex_dinamo> raylu, hahaha
[22:39] <guntbert> !sudo | AdamVidars
[22:39] <AdamVidars> all I want to do is install this fucking game and play lol xD
[22:39] <ninadsp> ruler: mencoder and ffmpeg...
[22:39] <ed_debian> if you want to do something to /usr/local/games/bin (or whatever) just install that package as root
[22:39] <raylu> ruler: mediacoder is a general purpose one. if you have two specific formats, i can recommend something better, perhaps
[22:39] <alex_dinamo> anyone familiar with cdrom upgrade around here?
[22:39] <raylu> je||y: this is fairly low-level stuff that you shouldn't concern yourself with if you don't care :D
[22:39] <ed_debian> AdamVidars, Did you download a .deb package??
[22:39] <angus_> minadsp: If it was a codec issue, the the movie player would automatically download it, right? It did when I wanted to watch some divxed beavis and butthead
[22:39] <AdamVidars> ed_debian: no it's a .run file
[22:39] <emacsian> Kalmi_: add gparted to grub ?  sorry I didn't get you
[22:40] <DanaG> AdamVidars: what game?
[22:40] <ninadsp> alex_dinamo: what happened with the cdrom upgrade? what is ur current version?
[22:40] <je||y> raylu: i just want to know if it's worth it to get 64 bit ubuntu or not.
[22:40] <ruler> minadsp: weather it can convert all type of fomat
[22:40] <ed_debian> AdamVidars, ?? .run?  I have never heard of that
[22:40] <AdamVidars> im inside the installation now, but I can't install it to /usr/local/games/ cause I dont have permission, and the game is: Enemy Territory.
[22:40] <axisys> ninadsp: it is not part of crond .. it is called by incrond .. it triggers at fs change .. using inotify (learned it here too)
[22:40] <mver> looking for help on mysql date arithmetic, but #mysql channel seems pretty dead. Any suggestions for a chanel?
[22:40] <ninadsp> angus_: yes.. it should which one are u using?
[22:40] <raylu> je||y: how much ram do you have and what do you use your machine for?
[22:40] <DanaG> hmm, google for the game name and "deb", and you may find packages for it.
[22:40] <alex_dinamo> ninadsp, newly installed 8.10... upgrading to 9.04...
[22:40] <ed_debian> AdamVidars, Just throw a sudo in front of the command you're trying to run
[22:40] <alex_dinamo> ninadsp, newly installed 8.10... upgrading to 9.04... segmentation fault on upgrade
[22:40] <ninadsp> ruler: they do cover most of the formats...
[22:40] <eseven73> My apt-get is repeating twice for everything even apt-cache search, and it takes a long time to read "Reading Database"
[22:41] <ninadsp> axisys: ohh... then i dunno... :)
[22:41] <ZykoticK9> AdamVidars, exit the installer -then run it again as "sudo <the rest of the command>"
[22:41] <angus_> ninadsp: Just the default one that comes with 9.04, haven't bothered downloading vlc yet
[22:41] <raylu> eseven73: did you see my last message?
[22:41] <quinn> hello
[22:41] <AdamVidars> oki
[22:41] <axisys> i see there is a /etc/incron.d folder .. may be i put it there
[22:41] <quinn> i need to install avant window manager
[22:41] <ninadsp> alex_dinamo: did you do an md5sum on the cd?
[22:41] <raylu> angus_: you make it sound like VLC is in someway superior :P
[22:41] <ed_debian> quinn, sudo apt-get install awm
[22:41] <alex_dinamo> ninadsp, it is an image, just downloaded
[22:41] <Kalmi_> emacsian, yeah... extract the contents of the gparted livecd... have a look at how it boots (it uses grub) and add it to grub
[22:41] <quinn> thank you
[22:41] <alex_dinamo> ninadsp, loop mounted
[22:42] <DanaG> I don't like vlc... it completely ignores styles and positions specified in mkv subtitles.
[22:42] <angus_> raylu: I just like cross compatible things, I like having vlc on friends mac's, and on windows.
[22:42] <alex_dinamo> ninadsp, no errors on download
[22:42] <ninadsp> alex_dinamo: try doing a md5sum.. faulty image downloads do give problems... :)
[22:42] <raylu> angus_: mplayer is cross-platform
[22:42] <Kalmi_> emacsian, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-879834.html something like this.... the "toram" is important
[22:42] <angus_> So how do I give myself permission to watch a dvd? Reboot and go into windows? :P
[22:42] <ninadsp> alex_dinamo: if the md5sum doesnt match, then there have been errors...
[22:42] <alex_dinamo> ninadsp, mmm.. that would be strange, since I downloaded two images from different mirrors, both upgrades failed
[22:42] <Kalmi_> !dvd | angus_
[22:43] <eseven73> raylu, I only have a sources.list directory It seems
[22:43] <guntbert> alex_dinamo: I would not try a system upgrade from a loop mounted iso, but maybe I'm just timid :-)
[22:43] <raylu> eseven73: in /etc/apt? which version of ubuntu?
[22:43] <ruler> minadsp: please tell how to install  it
[22:43] <eseven73> 8.04 server
[22:43] <DanaG> I installed acroread to get rid of that damned fullscreen-hogging evince.
[22:43] <emacsian> Kalmi_: thank you. will try that
[22:43] <ninadsp> alex_dinamo: then it might be a problem with that particular iso build
[22:43] <alex_dinamo> guntbert, then they should not advertise that as an option, don't you think?
[22:43] <alex_dinamo> ninadsp, what does that mean?
[22:43] <DanaG> I HATE having my document reader steal my whole screen when I try to play or pause my music.
[22:43] <Kalmi_> emacsian, and fix the cd drive... :)
[22:43] <ninadsp> guntbert: i've done it a few times... i've never had problems :)
[22:43] <eseven73> raylu, nevermind found it, now what?
[22:43] <alex_dinamo> ninadsp, where do I get "the right one"?
[22:44] <guntbert> alex_dinamo: where do "they" advertise that?
[22:44] <emacsian> Kalmi_: sure, will do that will definitely come handy :)
[22:44] <alex_dinamo> gunni, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades
[22:44] <dva5912> Anyone got a check list for installation?
[22:44] <alex_dinamo> gunni, Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD
[22:44] <ninadsp> alex_dinamo: if you are facing issues with multiple isos, after getting correct md5sums, then you should contact someone who manages the mirrors...
[22:44] <farchumbre> IS ANYONE USING THINKFINGER?
[22:44] <alex_dinamo> gunni, it's official documentation, isn't it?
[22:44] <eseven73> farchumbre, please turn off the caps
[22:45] <farchumbre> ok
[22:45] <alex_dinamo> ninadsp, that's just great, so I am the first one running into this?
[22:45] <raylu> eseven73: now... does it look messed up? pastebin it, perhaps
[22:45] <alex_dinamo> lol lol lol
[22:45] <ninadsp> alex_dinamo: before reporting issues with the iso builds, will you please try checking the md5sums?
[22:45] <eseven73> raylu, ok
[22:45] <alex_dinamo> ninadsp, yeah, sure
[22:45] <dva5912> Someone want to give me the plusses of installing ubuntu vs. keeping Vista Ultimate?
[22:45] <ronen> hello
[22:45] <farchumbre> I have a problem using thinkfinger with keyboard layouts
[22:45] <angus_> help me out, the dvd help page wants me to open up a command prompt so I can type in a sudo apt get command. What's the keyboard shortcut for the terminal?
[22:45] <ninadsp> alex_dinamo: dunno... i havent been on this channel for long...
[22:45] <ronen> i need help with ubuntu
[22:45] <ronen> can anyone help me?
[22:46] <ed_debian> ronen, Just ask your question (that's the common practice)
[22:46] <yasasvy1> !ask | ronen
[22:46] <alex_dinamo> maybe I am wrong, correct me... isn't this sort of official forum?
[22:46] <ninadsp> angus_: alt+f2 and gnome-terminal
[22:46] <axisys> raylu: took your suggestion and put it /root
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> dva5912, use the offtopic for questions of that nature - this is suppose to be for support
[22:46] <axisys> in /root that is
[22:46] <guntbert> alex_dinamo: ninadsp: never seen that, will try it next time :-)
[22:46] <raylu> axisys: that makes me wonder what /etc/cron* is for
[22:46] <axisys> raylu: system cronjobs .. not belong to root user
[22:47] <ninadsp> guntbert: just make sure tht u've mounted it at /cdrom :)
[22:47] <ronen> ok
[22:47] <ronen> i just installed ubuntu
[22:47] <axisys> raylu: and i think they are event triggerd
[22:47] <alex_dinamo> gunni, I guess this is not an official place to get help, I thought so.. sorry
[22:47] <administrator> hello
[22:47] <farchumbre> is anyone experience problems with multi keyboard layouts, when using an external usb keyboard or thinkfinger?
[22:47] <ed_debian> ronen, what is your question
[22:47] <administrator> whats your question
[22:47] <quinn> i tried sudo apt-get install awm and it didn't work
[22:47] <guntbert> ninadsp: advice taken :-)
[22:47] <axisys> raylu: like at boot for example
[22:47] <administrator> hw come it wudnt worl
[22:47] <ed_debian> quinn, What did it say?
[22:47] <administrator> fuck u
[22:47] <quinn> an error
[22:48] <administrator> what error
[22:48] <ninadsp> quinn: awm or awn?
[22:48] <administrator> btw whats awn?
[22:48] <quinn> let me try it agian
[22:48] <LjL> !language | administrator
[22:48] <lusepuster_> bump - trying to get s-video/tv-out to work - is the tv supposed to show up in the screens  dialog or...?
[22:48] <guntbert> alex_dinamo: lets check once more - the md5sum is ok?
[22:48] <ed_debian> quinn, Yeah I think I meant to saw awn (avant window navigator)
[22:48] <farchumbre> is anyone using multi keyboard layouts?
[22:48] <ed_debian> meant to say*
[22:48] <alex_dinamo> gunni, guess what? network udate also segfaults.. this is just great
[22:48] <ninadsp> alex_dinamo: if the md5 sum matches, you can look up launchpad.net or the ubuntu.com site to see which admins you can contact, to correct the issue
[22:48] <administrator> sorry ubottu
[22:49] <ed_debian> ronen, Do you have a question?
[22:49] <angus_> No luck, I tried to install the libdvdthingywotsit, it installed, but the media player still says I don't have permission. This is frustrating!
[22:49] <quinn> it says couldn't find packAGE awm
[22:49] <ed_debian> administrator, ubottu is a program
[22:49] <AdamVidars> is there no possible way that you can get this permission shit away? I cant even extract things to locations and stuff ;<
[22:49] <eseven73> raylu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/184580/
[22:49] <ZykoticK9> lusepuster_, "bump" that's funny -- what video card are you using?  for tv out you almost certainly will also need the driver for your video card also working.
[22:49] <alex_dinamo> ninadsp, nah... network update also faults... on a newly 8.10 installed system? gotta be kidding
[22:49] <ninadsp> administrator: awn is supposed to be a dock... if i am not wrong
[22:49] <administrator> ooh ok ninadsp
[22:49] <guntbert> AdamVidars: you've been told at least twice to use sudo
[22:49] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9: Still does work
[22:49] <alex_dinamo> seems like 9.10 simply doesn't cut it... would not be the first time
[22:50] <AdamVidars> guntbert: how can I sudo when i extract? :S
[22:50] <administrator> what didnt you get any help from forums
[22:50] <ed_debian> quinn, if you type sudo apt-get install aw and then hit tab twice you will see all the packages that start with "aw"
[22:50] <ninadsp> alex_dinamo: 8.10 or 9.10?
[22:50] <alex_dinamo> maybe this is seriously the last ubuntu I install.. its no fun when upgrade smears your machine and you lose your weekend
[22:50] <alex_dinamo> ninadsp, 8.10 -> 9.10, I thought I said that before
[22:50] <ninadsp> ed_debian: pressing tab after apt-get install gets package names?
[22:50] <ed_debian> AdamVidars, In linux you don't have write permissions to anything except your home folder (sort of like the my documents folder in windows)
[22:51] <alex_dinamo> ninadsp, 8.10 is newly installed
[22:51] <farchumbre> is there anyway to remove pulseaudio? i have to killall pulseaudio everytime i start up, otherwise sound does not work
[22:51] <lusepuster_> ZykoticK9, it's an intel 945GM
[22:51] <guntbert> AdamVidars: for *special" purposes there is "sudo -i", but ...
[22:51] <ninadsp> alex_dinamo: ohh... sorry... hadnt read it all...
[22:51] <AdamVidars> okay I open the .zip file, I chose extract, I can't write sudo anywhere its no near the terminal -.-
[22:51] <ed_debian> ninadsp, It shows packages matching what you've started to type yes
[22:51] <yasasvy1> !sudo | AdamVidars
[22:51] <ed_debian> AdamVidars, You can extract it to anything inside /home/AdamVidars
[22:52] <alex_dinamo> ninadsp, maybe I just need to get to the idea that ubuntu upgrades are simply a joke... had the same problem when upgrading to 8.04 from previous... it blew all the time and had ton fresh install it sucks
[22:52] <ninadsp> !gksu | AdamVidars
[22:52] <quinn> can you guys help me i treid sudo apt-get install awm but it came back error couldn't find awm
[22:52] <administrator> hey can anyone provide me rapidshare id password
[22:52] <ed_debian> quinn, sudo apt-get install aw (and then hit tab twice)
[22:52] <lusepuster_> ZykoticK9, is this supposed to run a specific odd driver to have a TV out to work?
[22:52] <ninadsp> gtg ppl...
[22:52] <ed_debian> or search awn in synaptic
[22:52] <stanis_sh> Hello. Is it possible to use ModeLine xorg option in 9.04?
[22:52] <quinn> i did and it didn't work
[22:52] <AdamVidars> ed_debian: I need to extract it to the Enemy territory directory.. it's a mod :P and maps
[22:52] <angus_> how strange, it's working now, I clicked on bbc, listened to a radio stream, now it seems to want to play. Thanks for your help guys
[22:52] <ldiamond> This is giving me a headache!! I'm trying to install Apache2 MySQL, etc, but Apache2 wont work! I installed it using apt-get and now /etc/init.d/apache2 start doesnt work.
[22:53] <Seeker`> administrator: no
[22:53] <incorrect> e
[22:53] <quinn> hello
[22:53] <guntbert> quinn: do as ed_debian  said
[22:53] <ed_debian> extract it somewhere easy then as root (gksu nautilus or something) move the files to where you want them
[22:53] <alex_dinamo> ok.. let's get the hell out of here and reinstall the machine... upgrade sucks... last ubuntu distro I try... let's find another one
[22:53] <Metal> For some reason I cannot play any games or watch videos on youtube without it lagging to hell. Anyone know why?
[22:53] <farchumbre> how can i download all the deb packages i remove using 'computer janitor'?
[22:53] <quinn> i did and it didn't work
[22:53] <ZykoticK9> lusepuster_, have you run something like "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" and verified that that intel video driver is being used?  from this poist suggests it more or less just-works http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=449232&highlight=s+video
[22:53] <raylu> farchumbre: did you ever run that command i gave you?
[22:54] <guntbert> !who | quinn
[22:54] <ed_debian> quinn, I sent you a personal message do you see it?
[22:54] <farchumbre> yes, but it didn't download anything raylu
[22:54] <erUSUL> !lamp | ldiamond
[22:54] <pizzledizzle> can someone explain why this command works because i thought each statement had to be closed by ; or && : DISPLAY=":0.0" xmodmap -pke
[22:54] <raylu> farchumbre: ... i was more interested in the output
[22:54] <farchumbre> raylu: yes i did, but it didn't download anything
[22:55] <farchumbre> ok
[22:55] <raylu> pizzledizzle: that sets the environment variable DISPLAY
[22:55] <kmdm> pizzledizzle: The first part is setting an environment variable FOO="BAR" command args is legal... (in bash, at least)
[22:55] <raylu> pizzledizzle: temporarily for that command
[22:55] <farchumbre> you mean !aptitude ? raylu
[22:55] <raylu> farchumbre: yes
[22:55] <ZykoticK9> pizzledizzle, ; is used to run multiple commands on a single line.  && means after succesfully completing run the next command i give you.
[22:55] <eseven73> how do I delete my apt-get cache, I think it's messing things up
[22:55] <erUSUL> pizzledizzle: there is only one comand on that line so no need for ; && or ||
[22:56] <erUSUL> eseven73: sudo apt-get clean
[22:56] <eseven73> thats the one thanks erUSUL
[22:56] <raylu> eseven73: sudo aptitude clean
[22:56] <erUSUL> pizzledizzle: DISPLAY=":0.0" is just a variable declaration
[22:56] <lusepuster_> ZykoticK9, thanks... It's installed, how do I verify that I'm using that one?
[22:56] <farchumbre> aptitude install libasound2-plugins
[22:56] <farchumbre> Reading package lists... Done
[22:56] <farchumbre> Building dependency tree
[22:56] <farchumbre> Reading state information... Done
[22:56] <farchumbre> Reading extended state information
[22:56] <farchumbre> Initialising package states... Done
[22:56] <FloodBot3> farchumbre: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:56] <ZykoticK9> lusepuster_, try "glxinfo" in a terminal
[22:57] <eseven73> raylu, erUSUL my apt-get and aptitude-get still repeat twice for everything :(
[22:57] <lusepuster_> ZykoticK9, maybe I simply don't know how to get the output to the TV? I have tried googling but don't find anythng...
[22:57] <lusepuster_> ZykoticK9, thanks
[22:57] <pizzledizzle> erUSUL, does it have any special name? im trying to google it
[22:58] <ZykoticK9> lusepuster_, after installing that driver just try the Function key on the system to test it .  good luck.
[22:58] <ldiamond> How do I clean up my system to have a clean install? (My home is on a different partition)
[22:58] <yasasvy1> eseven73: probably, you might have duplicate entries in your sources.list
[22:58] <raylu> eseven73: do you have anything in that directory?
[22:58] <raylu> eseven73: /etc/apt/sources.d?
[22:59] <eseven73> raylu, yasasvy1  http://paste.ubuntu.com/184580/
[22:59] <eseven73> yea theres a few things in there
[22:59] <erUSUL> pizzledizzle: the name of what ?
[22:59] <pizzledizzle> erUSUL, i was looking for this http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/The_bash_environment#Temporary_Values
[23:00] <pizzledizzle> thxx for help guys
[23:00] <eseven73> raylu, in sources.list.d I have iplist.list iplist.list.save medibuntu.list medibuntu.list.save
[23:00] <raylu> eseven73: not the file, the directory
[23:00] <eseven73> I know
[23:00] <raylu> ldiamond: put in a livecd/usb, install with manual partitioning
[23:00] <erUSUL> pizzledizzle: yes that's it
[23:01] <maha> HEY GUYS
[23:01] <AdamVidars> Does anyone here play Enemy Territory ? On linux.
[23:01] <maha> should gnash be able to play that youtube filth
[23:01] <jthomas> hello
[23:01] <erUSUL> AdamVidars: played it
[23:01] <jthomas> is this a reasonable ssh command: ssh john@google.com
[23:02] <Kalmi_> jthomas, no... you will never ssh into google.com :D
[23:02] <eseven73> jthomas, unless you have a shell at google, nope
[23:02] <jthomas> eseven73: i'm talking about the protocol
[23:02] <jthomas> eseven73: i'm new to ssh
[23:02] <eseven73> !ssh | jthomas
[23:02] <Kalmi_> jthomas, it's fine... why not try it with localhost?
[23:03] <jakupl> hello.. I am trying to figure out ssh... how do I know what ip adress to use when I am trying to connect to my computer from a remote location
[23:03] <guntbert> jthomas: yes its ssh host or ssh user@host
[23:03] <jthomas> alright, thanks guys
[23:04] <AdamVidars> Can somebody please tell me how to open up permissions to a game directory, so I can either copy/move/extract files into the directory?
[23:04] <AdamVidars> :_(
[23:04] <jakupl> I live in a dormitary and I have a static ip adress
[23:04] <ZykoticK9> AdamVidars, since you asked a moment ago - i've installed ET and it runs.
[23:04] <asterix> I've got windows xp and ubuntu 9.04 on a second drive and currently I'm able to boot fine to 8.10 on my first drive.  How do I edit my grub to allow me to boot into either OS on the second drive?
[23:04] <Kalmi_> jakupl, um... you should know the ip address of your machine....
[23:04] <coz_> AdamVidars,   open a terminal   sudo nautilus   then you can navigate to where ever to what ever :)
[23:04] <jakupl> yeah, I do, but that does not work
[23:04] <Kalmi_> jakupl, do you have a router?
[23:05] <jakupl> I altso have a router, but I have configured port forwarding
[23:05] <AdamVidars> ZykoticK9: Yes - it runs for me 2, but I need specific mods to run and maps and a upgrade to 2.60b but I need to fucking move files from my desktop to the directory...
[23:05] <Kalmi_> jakupl, what ip are you trying to connect to?
[23:05] <jakupl> 172.16.16.26
[23:05] <midnajt> ok dudes my last question for tonight xD  with Apps like Python can I update from 2.5 to 2.6 or need to install separate
[23:05] <or4n9e> hi there. is there any chance to start update-notifier as root?
[23:06] <rump> does anyone know which package contains this lib: liblber-2.4.so.2 ; libldap?
[23:06] <or4n9e> I tried with --force to no avail
[23:06] <kmdm> AdamVidars: I guess "gksudo nautilus" might let you do what you want... just, um, be careful ;)
[23:06] <jakupl> Kalmi_ 172.16.16.26
[23:06] <ed_debian> or4n9e, It is run as root by default?
[23:06] <AdamVidars> yeah nautilus worked, thanks :P
[23:06] <guntbert> AdamVidars: extract the archive into a directory in your home directory, then type sudo cp -R <that dir>  <target-dir> (replace the <...> with actual directories
[23:06] <Kalmi_> jakupl, that's a private ip address...
[23:07] <jakupl> Kalmi_ ok... then what do I do?
[23:07] <or4n9e> ed_debian: no, it's not possible to run it as root
[23:07] <ed_debian> or4n9e, Update notifier or update manager?
[23:07] <or4n9e> that's my problem
[23:07] <jthomas> eseven73: another quick question
[23:07] <ZykoticK9> AdamVidars, instructions to install ET http://paste.ubuntu.com/184587/
[23:07] <Kalmi_> jakupl, you need to know your external ip address... there are sites that will tell you: you should try to connect to the ip address you see on http://whatismyip.com/
[23:07] <jthomas> eseven73: i'm trying to use a proxy
[23:07] <or4n9e> ed_debian: notifier
[23:07] <raboof> rump: 'apt-file search liblber-2.4.so.2'
[23:07] <jakupl> Kalmi_ 217.74.220.74 ??
[23:07] <ed_debian> The applet?  I have no idea?  Run the whole panel as root?  Why do you want to run it as root?
[23:08] <jthomas> eseven73: and i've set foxyproxy to proxy.xxx.com on port 80 with pattern *xxx.com*
[23:08] <or4n9e> ed_debian: this is in xsession-errors "** (update-notifier:7267): WARNING **: not starting for system user"
[23:08] <Kalmi_> jakupl, sounds ok
[23:08] <eseven73> raylu, I fixed my apt problem, there was 3 files named sources.list.save, sources.list~ sources.liste , so I moved them to a backup folder and everything is super fast now :)
[23:08] <jthomas> eseven73: it's directing me to one page on the sever each time
[23:08] <rump> raboof: i don't have that tool at my disposal.  can you search it for me?
[23:08] <Kalmi_> or4n9e, you are not supposed to run that as root...
[23:08] <guntbert> jakupl:  if you don't have admistrative access to your router - no chance
[23:08] <raylu> eseven73: congrats
[23:08] <raboof> rump: apt-get install apt-file? :)
[23:08] <ed_debian> or4n9e, So is it not running at all?  How many users are on this system?
[23:08] <eseven73> jthomas, im not really a network guru, you probably should ask someone else :D
[23:08] <or4n9e> ed_debian: I had a look at update-notifier's sourcecode already and it's intended to prevent root execution
[23:08] <raboof> rump: libldap-2.4-2 on my machine
[23:09] <rump> raboof: i'm on netbsd at the moment. :)
[23:09] <asterix> I've got windows xp and ubuntu 9.04 on a second drive and currently I'm able to boot fine to 8.10 on my first drive.  How do I edit my grub to allow me to boot into either OS on the second drive?
[23:09] <Kalmi_> guntbert, jakupl: he said he had already set up port forwarding
[23:09] <ZykoticK9> AdamVidars, just use "sudo cp -r Files /where-ever-et-stores-stuff"
[23:09] <or4n9e> Kalmi_: I know :) but I'd like to
[23:09] <or4n9e> ed_debian: just root
[23:09] <eseven73> raylu, I wonder what could have created those three files though? Kinda scary.
[23:09] <kmdm> !grub | asterix
[23:09] <ed_debian> or4n9e, You log in as root?
[23:09] <jthomas> eseven73: np
[23:09] <rump> raboof: thanks! :)
[23:09] <guntbert> Kalmi_: ah
[23:09] <or4n9e> ed_debian: I build a custom backtrack-4 beta with GNOME desktop
[23:09] <jakupl> Kalmi_ I have administrative access to my own router, but I live in a dormitary, and they might have a router.... right?
[23:10] <or4n9e> ed_debian: on a regular desktop system I certainly won't do this
[23:10] <or4n9e> but on BT it's intended
[23:11] <guntbert> jakupl: this port forwarding must be done on any router behind the last "official" interface
[23:11] <ed_debian> or4n9e, Ok good (you scared me for a second there).  I don't think you're going to be able to run update-notifier if the source code own't allow you to do it as root.
[23:11] <or4n9e> I just need the appropriate switch for the notifier, --force doesn't help and there's no man-page
[23:11] <Kalmi_> or4n9e, why are you tring to do this?
[23:11] <ed_debian> or4n9e, idk :( find the developer mailing list?
[23:11] <jakupl> guntbert : yes, it works locally, but Is there no chance to do it remotely,
[23:12] <or4n9e> ed_debian: hm, don't you think it'll be possible giving the notifier a certain switch?
[23:12] <ed_debian> or4n9e, Explain to me this system you're building
[23:12] <or4n9e> Kalmi_: as I said, I'm building a custom BT4 beta build
[23:12] <ed_debian> or4n9e, Frankly no
[23:12] <eseven73> If glxgears is running, that means my Restricted nvidia drivers are working?
[23:12] <guntbert> jakupl: the machine on 217.74.220.74 accepts ssh connections, is this "your" router already?
[23:12] <ed_debian> yeah what is that?
[23:13] <or4n9e> ed_debian: BT4? you'd like to know what it is or what?
[23:13] <jakupl> guntbert: no.. this is what I get from myip
[23:14] <or4n9e> ed_debian: it's a pentesting distribution based on Intrepid
[23:14] <ed_debian> or4n9e, Yeah what is BT4?  When you say custom do you mean you compiled your own kernel?
[23:14] <guntbert> jakupl: and "your" router has a "private" ip-address?
[23:14] <Kalmi_> jakupl: You router's web interface will tell you its external ip address... If that is that same as what you get from myip than it should be all fine
[23:14] <jakupl> guntbert: it is not the same
[23:14] <or4n9e> ed_debian: nope, I'm customizing the desktop environment and build some functionality upon the base
[23:14] <ed_debian> or4n9e, I see
[23:15] <guntbert> jakupl: the you are out of luck, I'm afraid
[23:15] <or4n9e> ed_debian: I.e. switching from KDE to GNOME
[23:15] <kmdm> or4n9e: Hm, In jaunty --force seems to work for getting past the system-user check :/
[23:15] <Kalmi_> jakupl: consult with your network administrator
[23:15] <or4n9e> kmdm: really?
[23:15] <jakupl> guntbert: eerhh.. I have... waiting for a reply.. tanks very much guys.
[23:15] <Thon> really what
[23:15] <or4n9e> kmdm: that's interesting :)
[23:15] <kmdm> or4n9e: Aye, the code said it should work, so.... ;)
[23:15] <ed_debian> or4n9e, That's very cool.  Good luck with your notifier problem!
[23:16] <or4n9e> Thon: look three lines above
[23:16] <guntbert> jakupl: good luck
[23:16] <or4n9e> kmdm: what version of the notifier?
[23:16] <or4n9e> ed_debian: thanks
[23:16] <qdii> hello. Shutting down my laptop causes it to reboot when AC is plugged in... anyone encountered this before ?
[23:17] <or4n9e> kmdm: maybe there's something in intrepid-backports )
[23:17] <axisys> why is the proftpd xferlog timestamp 1 hour behind the OS time ? (asked in proftpd chnl as well)
[23:17] <ed_debian> Your os is probably reading the hardware clock incorrectly
[23:17] <kmdm> or4n9e: Aha, yes, in the jaunty update-notifier the if block does if(system_user() && !FORCE_START) but in intrepid it's just if(system_user()) - which probably doesn't help you :S
[23:17] <jthomas> next question
[23:17] <Kalmi_> axisys, time saving?
[23:17] <axisys> ed_debian: it is in ubuntu server .. and date shows correct time
[23:17] <jthomas> how do you kill a shell command after it's been run
[23:17] <steve_> join rune
[23:18] <axisys> but proftpd xferlog shows 1 hr behind
[23:18] <erUSUL> jthomas: crtl + c
[23:18] <jthomas> erUSUL: thanks
[23:18] <or4n9e> ed_debian: I'm just wondering why an application won't let the user decide if something makes sense or not - reminds me of windoze
[23:18] <Vitor> owwww look that: http://bit.ly/3IAz4E
[23:18] <libtech> i am getting laggy video playback on youtube
[23:18] <ed_debian> or4n9e, I just suspect that none of the people that wrote the code for update - notifier would expect somebody to need to run it as root (since that is bad practice).  IDK it was just my speculation.
[23:19] <axisys> Kalmi_: why would proftpd going one hr behind.. the ubuntu date shows the correct time
[23:19] <guntbert> axisys: it could be that proftpd log in UTC and you are in UK with DST?
[23:19] <or4n9e> kmdm: that explains a lot ;) we're talking about what version of update-notifier in jaunty?
[23:19] <ZykoticK9> axisys, i had the same problem with proftpd a long time ago - don't remember if i even fixed it...  seem to remember it being something in proftpd's config file.  best of luck.
[23:19] <kmdm> or4n9e: 0.76.7
[23:19] <ed_debian> axisys, That program is probably reading the hardware time directly (as does ubuntu) and ubuntu is probably compensating for your time zone / daylight savings or something
[23:20] <axisys> guntbert: i am on EST .. so should proftpd be
[23:20] <manpoole> how do i find out what cpu i have through the terminal?
[23:20] <q0_0p> ubuntu crashed while deleting gigs worth of data, how can i retrieve my space back that i deleted?
[23:20] <manpoole> whats the command?
[23:20] <or4n9e> ed_debian: in general you're absolutely right here. but there should be at least a switch --force to do it anyway imho
[23:20] <ZykoticK9> manpoole, "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[23:20] <or4n9e> which is obviously the case in jaunty but not in intrepid
[23:20] <guntbert> axisys: ok, was only a wild idea :)
[23:20] <axisys> ed_debian: hmmm .. no reply from proftpd channel.. ZykoticK9 let me know if you ever remember how u fixed it..
[23:20] <ed_debian> or4n9e, Agreed
[23:20] <axisys> guntbert: :-)
[23:21] <axisys> ed_debian: how do I check my hardware clock ?
[23:21] <ed_debian> idk, google it
[23:21] <ZykoticK9> axisys, i don't run proftpd anymore so i got nothing.  i was just letting you know that "your no alone".  good luck man.
[23:21] <or4n9e> kmdm: I'll try installing the jaunty notifier then
[23:21] <axisys> ZykoticK9: thnx
[23:21] <ed_debian> axisys, read man clock
[23:21] <axisys> ed_debian: ok
[23:21] <or4n9e> although this introduces loads of other problems
[23:21] <libtech> i am getting laggy video playback on youtube
[23:22] <kmdm> or4n9e: Yeah, or you could patch the intrepid one and rebuild the package etc...
[23:22] <unop> axisys, hwclock
[23:22] <ed_debian> libtech, Do you mean that the video plays poorly or that the audio / video doesn't sync up (people talk after they've spoken)
[23:22] <kmdm> or4n9e: Just depends if you want custom packages kicking about... :)
[23:22] <or4n9e> kmdm: indeed. could you tell me how to build a deb pacakge for ubuntu the easy way?
[23:22] <or4n9e> I'm debian newcomer, ex suse
[23:23] <guntbert> !ot
[23:23] <libtech> ed_debian: it seems im getting a low frame rate. the sound is fine however.
[23:23] <kmdm> or4n9e: Ah, I'd definitely recommend pbuilder
[23:23] <q0_0p> how do i delete data that messed up when ubuntu crashed while deleting?
[23:23] <or4n9e> kmdm: if it needs to be... could one "lock" certain packages, e.g. the rebuild one using apt-get/synaptic
[23:23] <or4n9e> ?
[23:23] <ed_debian> libtech, What flash player are you using?  Free or non-free?
[23:23] <kmdm> !pbuilder | or4n9e
[23:24] <kmdm> !pin | or4n9e
[23:24] <kmdm> or4n9e: Ok, that's me done being lazy ;-)
[23:24] <libtech> ed_debian: i have flashplugin-nonfree installed
[23:24] <or4n9e> kmdm: that's perfectly fine, thx a lot for your support
[23:24] <ed_debian> libtech, Do you know what top is?
[23:24] <AdamVidars> any program for linux that opens .rar files?
[23:24] <ed_debian> AdamVidars, unrar
[23:25] <AdamVidars> ty
[23:25] <ed_debian> AdamVidars, Next time search synaptic
[23:25] <libtech> ed_debian: im not sure what you mean
[23:25] <ed_debian> libtech top is a program for linux that monitors your system
[23:25] <ed_debian> run sudo apt-get install top
[23:25] <or4n9e> kmdm: I actually looked at the sourcecode of jaunty notifier andd wondered why --force wont work
[23:26] <or4n9e> kmdm: good example that you need to be very specific whenever possiblee
[23:26] <kmdm> or4n9e: hehe yea, I can see how that would have been somewhat confusing ;)
[23:26] <axisys> ed_debian: http://pastebin.com/f1ecfce42 dont understand this
[23:26] <libtech> ed_debian: it says it couldnt find package top
[23:26] <libtech> ed_debian: is that the correct package name?
[23:27] <erUSUL> ed_debian: libtech top is installed by default as part of a core package
[23:27] <unop> libtech,  it's in the procps package
[23:27] <unop> !info procps
[23:27] <or4n9e> kmdm: at first I just googled for the xsession-error log entry and ended up at some source of notifier. haven't looked at the particular version. I just identified exactly that line you were talking about earlier :)
[23:27] <ed_debian> libtech, just run top (since it is installed)
[23:27] <erUSUL> libtech: but htop is a similar much nicer program you can install aswell
[23:27] <axisys> ed_debian: i am always confused about which clock to pick.. hardware clock or system clock .. and why are they different on same box ?
[23:28] <or4n9e> kmdm: btw, have you ever used BT4 yet?
[23:28] <axisys> ed_debian: and how to keep it stick followed by a power cycle ?
[23:28] <axisys> ed_debian: and reboot
[23:28] <ed_debian> axisys, I have no idea (since the os can set the clock) why not just set it and use it?  Instead linux creates a system clock (based on hardware clock) with +1 hour or something if it is wrong
[23:28] <kmdm> or4n9e: You'll find the search on http://packages.ubuntu.com useful for identifying versions... :) And nope, not used BT4 yet...
[23:28] <ed_debian> axisys, What did you do to change it?
[23:29] <libtech> ed_debian: ok, im in htop right now
[23:29] <axisys> ed_debian: i just noticed the time diff today.. i did not change anything since the install
[23:30] <offs> meh
[23:30] <or4n9e> kmdm: I see... I'm not that much an ubuntu newcomer, already used hoary a few yers back but then switched to suse. thus I'm just not that familiar with building packages and stuff for debian but the basics are available
[23:30] <or4n9e> lol
[23:30] <or4n9e> but ubuntu really rocks
[23:31] <or4n9e> very friendly community as it seems
[23:31] <guntbert> axisys: OSes treat the clocks differently: windows expects the HW Clock to be in "actual" local time (incl DST), whereas unix expects it to run in UTC and calculates the correct local time by info about the local time zone
[23:31] <dingleberry_> For some reason, my mic works perfectly in audacity, but nothing in stickam
[23:31] <dingleberry_> i've tried everything that seems obvious
[23:32] <guntbert> *treats
[23:32] <Weed37>  hey guys where is the recycle bin in ubuntu and can i make a shortcut launcher for it  for my desktop
[23:32] <unop> !trash > Weed37
[23:32] <erUSUL> !trash
[23:32] <or4n9e> kmdm: so I'm off testing this stuff - thanks for the pbuilder hint - looks promosing
[23:33] <erUSUL> Weed37: to make the trash can visible in desktop you have to tweak nautilus via gconf-editor
[23:33] <linduxed> this is rediculous, I get 1000FPS on glxgears with a geforce 9700m GT (Ubuntu Jaunty)
[23:33] <q0_0p> ubuntu crashed while deleting gigs worth of data, how can i retrieve my space back that i deleted?
[23:33] <q0_0p> i've lossed 11 gigs of space somehow
[23:33] <erUSUL> q0_0p: pass a fsck ?
[23:33] <ed_debian> axisys, Then what change are you trying to preserve over a reboot?
[23:33] <ed_debian> libtech htop or top?
[23:33] <erUSUL> q0_0p: checked if they are in /lost+found/ ??
[23:33] <q0_0p> k
[23:34] <q0_0p> i will try that
[23:34] <q0_0p> thx
[23:34] <libtech> ed_debian: htop
[23:34] <Gnea> !recover | q0_0p
[23:34] <ed_debian> libtech, Ok well htop ought to work (I'm more familiar with top)
[23:35] <ed_debian> keep htop open (and on visible) and play a youtube video
[23:35] <ed_debian> watch to see if anything starts eating 100% cpu
[23:35] <libtech> ok
[23:36] <erUSUL> linduxed: did you installed the restricted drivers ?
[23:36] <dingleberry_> geezum crow
[23:36] <eseven73> ed_debian, firefox eats 100% cpu even viewing a website as simple as a wiki :P
[23:36] <q0_0p> whats the original file permissions for lost+found?
[23:36] <dingleberry_> stickam worked 3 years ago
[23:36] <keco> hi!
[23:36] <farchumbre> hi, i deleted all deb packages using computer janitor, how can I download them again?
[23:36] <dingleberry_> now it doesn't work anymore, its ridiculous
[23:36] <erUSUL> !hi | keco
[23:36] <linduxed> erUSUL: yes
[23:36] <dingleberry_> one step forward, two steps back
[23:36] <q0_0p> i just chmod 777 it despite of it not opening
[23:36] <erUSUL> linduxed: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[23:36] <ed_debian> well then!
[23:36] <eseven73> If glxgears is running, that means my Restricted nvidia drivers are working?
[23:36] <keco> I have a  flyvideo 2000 card
[23:36] <ed_debian> libtech, What kind of system specs are we talking here?
[23:36] <keco> (sorry for my english is bad)
[23:36] <mari_> hi. I have some problems with my screenresolution on my laptop. Xubuntu. Newbie:) Could anyone help please?
[23:37] <linduxed> erUSUL: its on
[23:37] <erUSUL> eseven73: no glxgears can e rendered in software
[23:37] <guntbert> !enter | keco
[23:37] <eseven73> erUSUL, ah, ok.
[23:37] <libtech> ed_debian: asus eeepc 1000he
[23:37] <libtech> ed_debian: could be the fact that its only an intel atom 1.66 Ghz
[23:37] <erUSUL> linduxed: keep in mind that glxgears is not a benchmark. have you tried any other 3d app?
[23:37] <keco> ubottu, ok... I want see tv with ubuntu 9.04, how can I do it?
[23:38] <Xcell> libtech-  thats a nice little machine..
[23:38] <ed_debian> libtech, Yeah that is exactly the problem.  Adobe's proprietary flash player (the one you're using) is poorly written for linux and is a resource hog.
[23:38] <libtech> Xcell: it sure is :)
[23:38] <guntbert> mari_: ask your question please - all in one line
[23:38] <Xcell> and it should be ok if you have enough ram.. 1.6 gig is plenty
[23:39] <coolkourt> is there any way to extend the size of a partition in Gparted?
[23:39] <libtech> I also have 2GB ram
[23:39] <or4n9e> ah, there's another thing I'm wondering about currently
[23:39] <linduxed> erUSUL: well i know that when i play UT2004 in windows i get 200-300 FPS, in linux i get 10-60
[23:39] <ed_debian> coolkourt, Yes but you can't be mounted on said filesystem
[23:39] <libtech> ed_debian: which flash player should i use instead?
[23:39] <or4n9e> maybe you could be of some help here as well
[23:39] <linduxed> erUSUL: catastrophic in other words
[23:39] <Xcell> did you install restricted extras...or just flash plugin
[23:39] <or4n9e>  figured out tht ubuntu uses fstab-sync
[23:40] <coolkourt> ed_debian: so i would have to unmount the drive, then open the program and try?
[23:40] <ed_debian> libtech, There isn't really a good answer to that.  There is an open source player (swfdec or something) but it doesn't work with all flash media you might encounter.
[23:40] <erUSUL> linduxed: well i dunno; my 7300GT performs more or less like in windows
[23:40] <ed_debian> coolkourt, Yes (a live Cd is usually useful for something like this)
[23:40] <or4n9e> is it possible to exclude certain partitions from dynamical recreation of fstab without completely disabling fsta-sync?
[23:40] <ed_debian> libtech, It's in the flash-plugin-free package
[23:40] <libtech> ed_debian: ill check it out, thanks
[23:40] <coolkourt> ok so i would start ubuntu from the USB stick, then from live i would unmount the active and try to make it larger?
[23:41] <mari_> When I log on ,my screenresulotion is set way too high. the logon and splah is also wrong resolution. Once inside xubuntu I turn the resolution down using the screen options. But the settings wont stick! When I restart it's all wrong again. And I cant turn off or log off. Say's the system Halted. So I have to use the power off button :d
[23:41] <racecar56> can someone pastebin me a ubuntu 9.04 default sources.list?
[23:41] <or4n9e> some udev rule maybe?
[23:41] <ed_debian> coolkourt, yep that's basically it
[23:41] <Xcell> libtech-  did you get that from newegg?
[23:41] <equivoc> hi
[23:41] <or4n9e> any documentation available somewhere?
[23:41] <coolkourt> ok thanks a lot ed_debian, hopefully i talk to u sooner than later
[23:41] <linduxed> erUSUL: where do i find solutions to this problem?
[23:41] <ed_debian> coolkourt, You should be able to irc from the live usb
[23:42] <coolkourt> k
[23:42] <libtech> Xcell: no, i got it from a seller on ebay. excaliberpc's i think. it was 370 shipped
[23:42] <racecar56> can someone pastebin me any ubuntu default sources.list?
[23:42] <Xcell> nice
[23:42] <Xcell> enjoy
[23:42] <erUSUL> linduxed: maybe in nvidia linux forums ? have you checked thngs in nvidia-settings ?
[23:42] <axisys> ed_debian: i fixed the hwclock to syn with system clock .. restarted proftpd and still proftpd xferlog timestamp is one hr behind.. i wish proftpd guys reply to email :-)
[23:42] <farchumbre> did anyone install oo3.1 in jaunty?
[23:42] <ed_debian> axisys, IDK reboot?
[23:42] <or4n9e> farchumbre: I have it running in intrepid
[23:42] <Ron586> I have xp running in virtual box. Should I install an anti-virus for it? n00b here
[23:43] <unop> axisys, did you restart the proftpd service?
[23:43] <Xcell> !clam
[23:43] <ed_debian> axisys, I don't know where that program get's its time info from (most use the system clock not the hwclock)
[23:43] <Xcell> arg
[23:43] <farchumbre> do you have any bugs running oo3.1?
[23:43] <equivoc> i have an IP-cam with address 192.168.2.3 and a ubuntu with address 192.168.2.108 and a ppp0 device for the internet connection. how can the IP-cam use the internet connection?
[23:43] <linduxed> erUSUL: will check
[23:43] <farchumbre> for example impress runs very very slow
[23:43] <racecar56> Ron586, yes
[23:43] <erUSUL> linduxed: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=6aaad6f7eba8b74edc7f2a88a31d1ba4&f=14
[23:44] <or4n9e> farchumbre: haven't used it yet actually ;)
[23:44] <Jaesin> is there a channel for irc commands?
[23:44] <axisys> unop: yes
[23:44] <farchumbre> ok
[23:44] <Ron586> racecar56: thank-you. next thing to figure out: program installation
[23:44] <Jaesin> nm
[23:44] <erUSUL> !inetsharing | equivoc
[23:44] <or4n9e> hm, nobody any ideas regarding fstab-sync?
[23:44] <q0_0p> fsck didn't recover my lost space any suggestions?  i've looked in lost+found nothing there
[23:44] <guntbert> farchumbre: use the ppa http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu
[23:45] <farchumbre> is anyone using wine? I have wine installed but i don't know how to install a windows program
[23:45] <erUSUL> q0_0p: use the disk anlizr tool to try to find out where the space is ..
[23:45] <q0_0p> aight thx
[23:45] <racecar56> farchumbre, you install it
[23:45] <erUSUL> farchumbre: double click on the setup file
[23:45] <racecar56> farchumbre, like as if you were using windows
[23:45] <mari_> guntbert: When I log on ,my screenresulotion is set way too high. the logon and splah is also wrong resolution. Once inside xubuntu I turn the resolution down using the screen options. But the settings wont stick! When I restart it's all wrong again. And I cant turn off or log off. Say's the system Halted. So I have to use the power off button :d
[23:45] <unop> axisys, see "affected library functions" here (maybe it helps) http://www.proftpd.org/docs/howto/Timestamps.html
[23:45] <racecar56> can someone pastebin me any ubuntu default sources.list?
[23:46] <farchumbre> can i do it directly from a cd rom?
[23:46] <racecar56> farchumbre, yeah
[23:46] <erUSUL> farchumbre: yep
[23:46] <racecar56> farchumbre, even from the network
[23:46] <erUSUL> !appdb | farchumbre
[23:46] <zealiod> Can any one recommend a decent open source ICAP server that works well with Squid?
[23:46] <guntbert> mari_: sorry no idea, but you might want to add info about your hardware
[23:46] <Xcell> Ron586-  try clamAV
[23:47] <racecar56> Ron586, warning: clamav dosent have realtime protection
[23:47] <axisys> unop: looking .. thanks
[23:47] <zer0rez> what format is suggested for a 1 TB HDD I just added to my ubuntu box for media(music/photos/etc)
[23:48] <racecar56> zer0rez, ext4
[23:48] <equivoc> erUSUL: thx, reading now
[23:48] <zer0rez> racecar56: cool, what i was guessing just making sure nothing has changed.
[23:48] <racecar56> zer0rez, if you use ubuntu 9.04
[23:48] <racecar56> zer0rez, k
[23:48] <zer0rez> racecar56: yea 9.04 :)
[23:48] <racecar56> zer0rez, =>
[23:48] <racecar56> zer0rez, ext4 is awesome
[23:48] <zer0rez> sweet, i've finally made the plunge all ubuntu at home
[23:48] <farchumbre> will windows programs using wine interact with ubuntu ones? my hard drive is ext4, will i be able to save files in the hard drive too?
[23:49] <racecar56> zer0rez, my horrible laptop booted in 2 seconds with it
[23:49] <usser> farchumbre, yes
[23:49] <erUSUL> farchumbre: yes
[23:49] <racecar56> zer0rez, and it is really weak
[23:49] <q0_0p> i want to say thanx for helping me out
[23:49] <zer0rez> racecar56: haha yea i love how fast it is
[23:49] <q0_0p> i did fsck when rebooting
[23:49] <racecar56> zer0rez, it only happened once though
[23:49] <q0_0p> and got my lost space back
[23:49] <racecar56> =D
[23:49] <racecar56> zer0rez, im using a quite old comp now
[23:50] <erUSUL> q0_0p: no problem
[23:50] <racecar56> zer0rez, it's a compaq sr1020nx
[23:50] <sidh> greetings gentle(wo)men
[23:50] <farchumbre> is there a way to remove pulseaudio? i have to killall pulseaudio everytime i reboot, otherwise sound doesn't work
[23:50] <Alex_> Hey I've got 2 questions... I've been messing with ubuntu on an old laptop... but I just rebuilt my computer and I thought I'd install ubuntu on my old hard drive... When I install it, since it's on the second hard drive, will it affect my windows boot loader at all? And if I don't mount my main hard drive under ubuntu, if I accadentally do that rm -a / or whatever it was... will it affect the other drive.
[23:50] <eseven73> how do you get the ext4? I didn't see any options or is it default in 9.04?
[23:50] <sidh> on a new laptop i've installed 9.04 amd64 version, but sound doesn't work
[23:50] <erUSUL> Alex_: depends on what hard drive you install grub
[23:50] <sidh> here i think i found the solution
[23:51] <sidh> http://www.linlap.com/wiki/hp-compaq+6830s
[23:51] <racecar56> can someone pastebin me any ubuntu default sources.list?
[23:51] <sidh> but it was on 8.10
[23:51] <racecar56> it can even be a warty default sources.list
[23:51] <zer0rez> this is a custom built tower
[23:51] <racecar56> :P
[23:51] <Alex_> erUSUL: I'm saying I'm giving the entire secondary hard drive to ubuntu. If I tell it to install on that it shouldn't affect the windows boot which is on the other drive should it?
[23:51] <eseven73> how do you get the ext4? I didn't see any options or is it default in 9.04?
[23:51] <racecar56> eseven73, ext3 is default >:(
[23:51] <racecar56> eseven73, i wish it was ext4
[23:51] <zer0rez> trying to figure out what laptop i should get that is small and lightweight(going back and forth between small notebook and  netbook)
[23:52] <eseven73> how do I get ext4?
[23:52] <sidh> and on 9.04 it does not seem to have /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[23:52] <erUSUL> racecar56: delete the one you have System<Administration>software Sources should be able to generate a new default one
[23:52] <sidh> do i have to create it
[23:52] <farchumbre> does wine use many memory and hard drive resources?
[23:52] <racecar56> eseven73, mkfs
[23:52] <sidh> or  is there an equivalent file
[23:52] <racecar56> eseven73, P
[23:52] <sidh> ?
[23:52] <racecar56> eseven73, of course, taht formats
[23:52] <eseven73> racecar56, ick
[23:52] <unop> farchumbre, depends on what it is running ..
[23:52] <racecar56> eseven73, so don't run it on a partition that has data
[23:52] <Alex_> erUSUL: I'm saying I'm giving the entire secondary hard drive to ubuntu. If I tell it to install on that it shouldn't affect the windows boot which is on the other drive should it?
[23:52] <eseven73> ill just stick with ext3
[23:52] <erUSUL> farchumbre: hard drive the same as in windows... memory a little more
[23:53] <racecar56> eseven73, some say that you can convert ext3 to 4 but don't try, stay ext3. next time you get a chance to format it then do it
[23:53] <erUSUL> Alex_: no it shouldn't, (chhose manually where to install grub ) but you will have to use bios to change boot order
[23:53] <Ron586> xcell: sorry?
[23:53] <farchumbre> erUSUL: does wine use resources also if I am not running any windows program?
[23:53] <erUSUL> farchumbre: no
[23:53] <kmdm> or4n9e: cool, just read your messages - been afk :) Yea, I really like pbuilder there's also a neat packaging guide too, let me dig that up
[23:53] <racecar56> eseven73, but if you are satisfied with ext3 then stick with it, ext4 is just faster/newer
[23:53] <eseven73> racecar56, I don't even see where to format it to ext4
[23:54] <sidh> find / -name alsa-base tells me /usr/share/alsa-base
[23:54] <racecar56> eseven73, mkfs, sorry
[23:54] <Alex_> erUSUL: That's what I figured... but I wanted to make sure before I did it.
[23:54] <farchumbre> is there any way to completely remove pulseaudio?
[23:54] <sidh> is it the new place
[23:54] <usser> farchumbre, no it doesnt
[23:54] <sidh> ?
[23:54] <racecar56> eseven73, or manual partition setup
[23:54] <kmdm> or4n9e: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete :)
[23:54] <racecar56> eseven73, i always do that
[23:54] <kmdm> or4n9e: Between that and pbuilder you should be well on your way
[23:54] <eseven73> racecar56 oh ok thanks
[23:54] <racecar56> can someone pastebin me a default /etc/apt/sources.list?
[23:54] <racecar56> for ubuntu
[23:54] <eseven73> you'd think Ubuntu would have an ext4 option
[23:55] <racecar56> eseven73, of course, as we know, ext4 is for 9.04+
[23:55] <nonZero> I have a VERY strange networking problem:  once in a while (but quite often) suddenly a http request won't work:  the url in firefox will get 10% of the file and same in wget (!).  my ISP sais it has no proxy, and I can get the same url easily on another PC in my lan.
[23:55] <eseven73> racecar56, I was refering to 9.04
[23:55] <racecar56> eseven73, 8.10 is too old (which is dumb, ext4 existed in that time, in fact it could have been for edgy
[23:55] <racecar56> eseven73, ya
[23:55] <sidh> no it seems it is a directory
[23:56] <erUSUL> nonZero: both pc on the lan use the same router to get out to internet ?
[23:56] <nonZero> (I am on 8.10) Any idea if ubuntu has some kind of HTTP cache?
[23:56] <lstarnes> nonZero: squid is one
[23:56] <nonZero> erUSUL: YES!
[23:56] <cruz> holaaa
[23:56] <erUSUL> nonZero: ? confused... do no know what may be
[23:56] <ruler> i have installed ubuntu into 60 gb without patisioning can i partision it now
[23:57] <eseven73> ok so let me get this straight, there's only one way to get ext4 in Ubuntu and that's mkfs?
[23:57] <racecar56> ruler, cant install without partitioning
[23:57] <lstarnes> nonZero: that may be some sort of router bug
[23:57] <t_> Hey, is anyone free to help me?
[23:57] <racecar56> eseven73, either that or pick it in manual mode
[23:57] <Flannel> racecar56: you can with wubi
[23:57] <racecar56> t_ !ask
[23:57] <nonZero> lstarnes: how can I prove it?
[23:57] <racecar56> !ask | t_
[23:57] <ruler> racecar56 install in entire disk
[23:57] <t_> Hi, I can't get my virtualbox to update to 2.2.4
[23:57] <racecar56> Flannel, yeah
[23:57] <erUSUL> racecar56: well the main developer of ext4 asked ubuntu devs to *not* enable ext4 by default in jaunty (they have planned to do it)
[23:57] <lstarnes> nonZero: or it may be a driver issue, if it's affecting just one pc
[23:57] <or4n9e> kmdm: I'll try that soon. I have some other weir issues here currently
[23:57] <racecar56> ruler, that will wipe you hard drive
[23:57] <racecar56> erUSUL, k
[23:58]  * sidh wonders if someone see him ...
[23:58] <lstarnes> nonZero: by default, no http caches are installed in ubuntu
[23:58] <or4n9e> kmdm: ok, I'm doing heavy modding actually ;)
[23:58] <nonZero> lstarnes: I get only 10% and it gets stuck: wget http://hgbook.red-bean.com/support/jquery.js
[23:58]  * erUSUL sees sidh 
[23:58] <ruler> racecar56:  i cant understand
[23:58] <sidh> thanks erUSUL
[23:58]  * or4n9e sees sidh :)
[23:58]  * racecar56 sees sidh
[23:58] <t_> @racercar56, I'm getting sudden errors when my virtualbox tries to update
[23:58]  * racecar56 need a defailt sources.list
[23:58] <sidh> or4n9e: thnaks too
[23:58] <t_> it says it interferes with current package
[23:58] <racecar56> anyone with a new install has one
[23:59] <Flannel> racecar56: for which version?
[23:59] <nonZero> How can I stress test my network card?
[23:59] <erUSUL> sidh: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf <<< i have this file
[23:59] <racecar56> Flannel, at least a modern one
[23:59] <or4n9e> sidh: you're welocme
[23:59] <racecar56> Flannel, 9.04
[23:59] <Flannel> racecar56: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty main restricted universe multiverse
[23:59] <coolkourt> how would i go about moving a partition from dev/sda2 to dev/sda3
[23:59] <racecar56> Flannel, i mean like the entire thing
[23:59] <Flannel> racecar56: then change jaunty to jaunty-updates, and then change that again to -security, and on the security line, it's security.ubuntu.co
[23:59] <sidh> erUSUL: "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop enable=1 index=0" in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[23:59] <racecar56> Flannel, k
[23:59] <ruler> racecar56:  please tell can i do it now