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lizhi all, is gedit the same as kate??00:39
ghoulyhi all,  when i click a button like "save" in gedit or other applications there is a "plop" like sound, it is very annoying, but i can't find out how to turn it off =(   in system settings under notifications, under player settings, "no audio output" is already active. any ideas what else i could try ?00:41
Kovert!kate00:41
ubottuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code00:41
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lizok thx00:45
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leo_hello, im using ubuntu 9.04 with my s10, may i please know how can i fix my audio, itz working b4 but just gave me hissing sounds. is there a way i can re-install my audio driver something like that.00:49
DaSkreech!sound00:50
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP300:50
chaos2fuu!graphic00:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about graphic00:51
leo_k menu? i'm using ubuntu (gnome)00:51
Admiral_Chicagoleo_: look in system -> preferences -> sound00:53
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leo_admiral, yah got it. i try to test the sound but it just gave me hissing sounds.00:55
thecan2Hi there. Anybody got kontact working with multiple calendars? I can't work out how to do this actually01:00
DaSkreechI did01:02
DaSkreechbut then my computer crashed :(01:03
DaSkreech(Unrelated)01:03
DaSkreechNot like I sat donw and explained multiple calendars to Kontact and it turned and tried to explain it to the rest of KDE and it's head exploded01:04
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W4gn3rDoes anyone know how can I populate a QTreeWidget with a XML file?01:21
DaSkreech#qt ?01:22
W4gn3roh01:25
W4gn3rsorry01:25
W4gn3r=)01:25
lizcan anyone help??  when I try to boot into kubuntu hardy I get a booting msg stating to 'check root= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules, devices: cat' What is wrong???01:37
xjjkliz: did you edit /etc/grub/menu.lst recently...01:38
xjjkliz: can you post the contents of that file somewhere?01:38
lizI haven't edited anything and the problem is on my desktop and I'm on my laptop :(01:39
xjjkliz: sorry, /boot/grub/menu.lst01:39
xjjkliz: from what you posted, the "kernel" lines in your grub config appear to be wrong01:40
xjjkliz: need to post the file to be sure01:40
lizI wish I could, I can't even type anything on the black screen w/the message01:41
xjjkliz: why not?01:41
xjjkliz: use a LiveCD to boot the system01:41
xjjkyou can mount filesystems from there and upload the files01:41
lizit's frozen there01:42
xjjkhrm, it should let you edit things, since it's complaining that the boot parameters are invalid01:42
nejodeliz: boot your desktop, when you get to the grub menu press "e", go to the kernel line and press "e" again...01:42
nejode...and write down what it says there01:43
lizdoes it have to be the same kubuntu hardy cd? I don't think I have that one01:43
lizk I shall try that01:43
xjjkliz: no... though what nejode just mentioned will be faster than going the LiveCD route01:43
DaSkreechDo you have a choice of kernels on bootup?01:44
lizk... I do have a choice of kernels01:44
lizon the boot screen right now, what should I do?01:45
nejodeliz,  highlight the first kernel01:45
nejode...and press "e"01:45
nejodee for edit01:46
lizk done01:46
nejodenow highligt the kernel line and press e again01:46
nejode*highlight01:46
liz<4a-4a8c-a463-c9c13ab1e5ad ro quiet splash... thats what I get01:47
xjjkuse your arrow keys to go to the end of th eline01:48
DaSkreech think that's probably done by now01:50
lizthe cursor is at the end of splash01:50
nejodeliz: nothing wrong there ...01:50
xjjkyeah...01:50
xjjknejode: hrm, actually, there's also a "root" grub parameter for each stanza01:51
liz:( well something is01:51
xjjkcan you see/modify that in grub interactively01:51
xjjkre-reading the error liz posted that may also be at fault01:52
nejodeliz: do you have another kernel?01:53
lizsure it lists previous kernels on boot01:53
xjjkdo any of those work?01:53
lizdon't know lol, guess I have to check01:53
nejodeliz: try the next one01:54
lizthat's a no, same thing happened01:54
liztotal black screen01:55
xtrahi all01:55
xjjker, with the same error printed?01:55
nejode...then it's not the menu.lst01:55
xtrai can't connect vista of my brother and my kubuntu01:55
xjjknejode: feel like you can't conclude that without seeing menu.lst in full01:56
xjjkliz: any other errors?01:56
xtrabut ping is ok between both01:56
lizI get no errors, it's just black now01:56
xjjkxtra: what/how are you trying to connect01:56
Hydrantdoes anyone have a wacom tablet?  I bought one for the first time today, and I'm looking at how to adjust it under 9.0401:56
xjjkliz: OK, yeh, this may not be a bad menu.lst either... this did work at some point, right?01:56
xtrai want to share printer and folders01:56
xjjkHydrant: yes, what did you want to adjust01:56
xjjkxtra: that tends to be a headache... SMB is a #%#@%01:57
lizxjjk: it worked great for a couple months, this just happened yesterday01:57
xjjkliz: try the LiveCD... and let's get that file...01:58
xtraok, then howt to do01:58
xtrahow01:58
xjjkxtra: if you're commited to using Windows, SMB is the best bet01:58
lizyep I'll be right back then01:58
xjjkI personally gave up and use SSH/SFTP, and all the Internet drive services01:58
Hydrantxjjk: it's my first wacom ever, I want to draw some diagrams with it during online meetings or in gimp/inkscape.... I got a smaller tablet, and currently the surface is mapped to the screen area (huge, I have two screens).... ideally I'd like the area of the tablet to correspond to a smaller area on the screen...01:58
xjjkdropbox works with both Vista and Linux01:59
xjjkHydrant: you want it to map to a smaller area of the screen, or just 1 screen at a time?01:59
Hydranthrrm.. I'm not sure... I'm using twinview, so I think I only have one screen according to xorg... I think just a smaller area of the screen if I can01:59
HydrantI'm not sure what I can do with a wacom and linux02:00
DaSkreech!wacom02:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom02:00
xjjkHydrant: a lot actually02:00
DaSkreechliar02:00
xjjkthe driver is very configurable02:00
xjjkHydrant: short answer, you can do what you want, though I'm not sure on how02:00
Hydrantokay.. I'm a total n00b with wacom, guru at linux though02:01
xjjkHydrant: for GIMP, there are two modes of operation, "screen" and "window"02:01
xp-killer!cookie02:01
ubottuWow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!02:01
xjjk"window" is what you're describing, the tablet mapped to the GIMP canvas area02:01
Hydrantyah, I wasn't sure how that works if it's set as an input device02:01
DaSkreechhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom02:01
xp-killeryea yea i know im special :)02:01
xjjkHydrant: er, what do you mean if it's set as an input device? input device for X?02:02
Hydrantyah, it is by default I think isn't it?02:02
xp-killercan anyone help me?i install flaspluging but konqueror still wont read redtube videos02:02
xjjkHydrant: er, yes02:02
HydrantI mean it works with the screen already after I plugged it in....lemme try gimp and see what the settings do02:02
xjjkHydrant: I'm not sure... I've never used the tablet like that02:02
DaSkreechxp-killer: go to the plugins section of Konqueror and make sure that it's there. If not click scan plugins02:03
Hydrantxjjk: how have you used your tablet ?02:03
xjjkHydrant: yah, play with it..02:03
juanespanish02:03
juanhola02:03
DaSkreech!es02:03
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:03
xjjkHydrant: honestly, I bought the thing 3 wks ago, set it up the way I want it, but haven't played with it02:03
Hydrantah02:03
xp-killerDaSkreech: its there02:03
xjjkHydrant: mostly for drawing.. I'm wanting to get into airbrushing/matte painting02:03
DaSkreechDoes flash work anywhere else?02:03
xjjkHydrant: I have Twinview as well; the way I have it setup is that the tablet is mapped to one monitor at a time02:03
xjjkif I move the tablet pen to the side of the tablet, it switches to the other monitor02:04
Hydrantxjjk: ah, so perhaps you could help me then... I want to use it for drawing as well, just stick figures and software diagrams though :-)02:04
xjjkHydrant: the Linux Wacom driver lets you do a lot of stuff02:04
Hydrantcool02:04
Hydrantwith 9.04 it looks like the config is out of xorg though02:04
xjjkyes02:04
xp-killerDaSkreech: yea it works on other websites02:04
xjjkit's done through HAL fdi files02:04
HydrantI tried the xsetwacom and it finds no devices... apparently it's due to hotplugging02:05
xp-killerDaSkreech: befor it use to work on redtube now nothing02:05
xjjkHydrant: yah, it doesn't show up for me there either02:05
xjjkHydrant: I should write a tutorial for setting my tablet up...02:05
juanhola02:05
Hydrantyah, that would help02:05
DaSkreechxp-killer: try the flash from adobe's site then they probably updated the version of flash beyond what ships with Ubuntu02:05
HydrantI have the bamboo fun, the small one02:05
xjjkHydrant: it's really easy, but there is a lot of outdated info02:05
Hydrantxjjk: I totally encourage you to write a tutorial02:05
juanespanish02:05
DaSkreechHopefully not beyond what ships for linux overall02:05
Hydrantyah... lots of wasted hours sifting :-)02:05
DaSkreech!es | juan02:05
ubottujuan: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:05
Hydrantxjjk: what program do you use for drawing? gimp?  Could you give me your fdi file ?02:06
xjjkHydrant: http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/inputdev02:06
xp-killerDaSkreech: so i have to get it from the site?but will it work since its normaly a windows version?will it work with wine?02:06
xjjkHydrant: that's the man page for the driver02:06
xjjkand the options available02:06
xjjkto set any of those, you need to use an FDI file...02:06
DaSkreechxp-killer: No Get the linux one02:06
DaSkreechThey have a linux download on the site. Should be a newer version than the one Kubuntu ships with02:07
Hydrantxjjk: oh... so the fdi file overrides the Xorg configs ?02:07
xjjkHydrant: no, the Xorg configs are not used anymore02:07
xjjkHydrant: http://wiki.samat.org/DotFiles/X11 is my FDI file02:07
* xjjk has been trying to post his configs on the Internet lately02:07
xjjkHydrant: for the driver options, you only need to set them up for the "stylus" device02:08
lizOk, into liveCD, what do I do to get the info needed???02:08
xjjkliz: get a root terminal02:08
xjjkliz: er, were you using the Ubuntu or Kubuntu LiveCD?02:08
Hydrantxjjk: what about the buttons and the scroll wheel thing at the top?02:09
xjjkHydrant: I've yet to set those up actually...02:09
lizkubuntu hardy02:09
xjjkliz: OK02:09
xjjkliz: open a root terminal02:09
lizdone02:09
xjjksudo fdisk -l /dev/sda02:09
Hydrantxjjk: okay, lemme try your fdi file02:09
xjjker, pastebin that02:09
xjjkliz: pastebin that02:10
DaSkreechxjjk: sudo in a root terminal ?02:10
xjjkDaSkreech: doh, sorry02:10
xjjknot paying attention02:10
xjjkDaSkreech: I never open a root terminal so I mentally prefix root commands with sudo always02:10
Hydrantxjjk: how do I reload the hal policies ?02:10
lizxjjk: sorry but how do I pastebin it?02:11
xp-killerDaSkreech: ok i download the deb file i install it,scan for new pluging but it still doesnt want to read the videos02:11
xjjkHydrant: I'm not sure... I think I just restarted hal (sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart)02:11
xjjkHydrant: I don't remember, but I actually think it was automatic02:11
xjjkHydrant: just had to write the file, unplug/replug the device again02:12
xp-killerDaSkreech: do i have to put the pat myself to tell konqueror where the pluging is?02:12
xjjkliz: can you open a working web browser on your desktop?02:12
DaSkreechxp-killer: No02:12
xjjkwith the LiveCD running02:12
Hydrantxjjk: ahh, much more comfortable now02:12
DaSkreech!paste | liz02:12
ubottuliz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:12
xp-killerDaSkreech: so can u try it and if u get tru tell me how02:13
xp-killerDaSkreech: so can u try it and if u get tru tell me how 8.1002:13
DaSkreechxp-killer: The installer should drop it to .mozilla/plugins which is where konqueror looks02:14
xjjkHydrant: actually, considering how much work you did... I'm not sure what there is to write a tutorial about02:14
xjjkit's mostly writing an article about how you don't need to do this or that anymore02:14
liztrying to get connection02:14
xjjkeverything's automatic02:14
Hydrantxjjk: well, hal is a bit ahead of me... I didn't know hal could override xorg settings... I'm used to writing xorg settings by hand02:14
xp-killerDaSkreech: yea but nothing02:15
xjjkliz: OK, work on getting the connection... I'm going to brb, eating a sandwich02:15
xjjkHydrant: it's ahead of everyone... xorg settings aren't used anymore actually with X.org 1.602:15
Hydrantxjjk: still the buttons... but they might just have to be mapped or something02:15
xjjkyou need to configure stuff with HAL now02:15
lizno prob02:15
xjjkit's very new02:15
compusecfuck02:15
compusecim new in this shit02:15
DaSkreech!ohmy | compusec02:15
ubottucompusec: Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.02:15
Hydrantxjjk: I remember the days of Linux where the word "USB" made you cringe with fear :-)  Makes me feel so old :-)02:16
compusecfuck uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu02:16
xp-killerDaSkreech: i'll just use firefox then02:16
xjjkHydrant: yeh... I remember compiling all my kernels to get any kind of new hardware feature02:17
DaSkreechPici: let him respond to the warning at least02:17
xjjkLinux has come a really long way that all I did was buy the thing, and plug it in, and it works02:17
xjjkit's easier than Windows02:17
xjjkno drivers to install02:17
Hydrantxjjk: check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom.fdi02:17
Hydrantxjjk: I agree... I haven't used Windows XP ever... I did for a bit, and it took me 2 hours to install a webcam... had to resort to blogs and mysticism to get it to work too02:18
DaSkreechxjjk: try WIndows 7 it's really good with drivers02:18
xjjkHydrant: yah, that's what I based mine from02:18
Hydrantxjjk: does your eraser work ?02:18
xjjkHydrant: eraser is configured in the app02:18
Hydrantk... lemme try out gimp now02:18
xjjkHydrant: use the eraser to select the eraser tool02:18
xjjkthen it becomes the eraser02:18
xjjkor any other tool you want02:18
DaSkreechhow are you doing liz ?02:18
xjjkHydrant: for GIMP, the stylus/eraser/mouse is a cursor02:19
xp-killerDaSkreech: is there another server other than samba thats easyer?02:19
xjjkthat can have a different tool associated with it02:19
DaSkreechxp-killer: for what?02:19
lizDaSkreech: following directions :), just finished pasting it02:19
Hydrantxjjk: hrrm... I kinda hoped that I could use it like a pencil... eraser would automatically erase02:19
xjjkHydrant: you can02:19
xjjkHydrant: select the pencil tool02:19
DaSkreechliz: Great :) give us the URL that it generates here02:19
xp-killerDaSkreech: share linux to vista(xp) and ps302:19
DaSkreechPS3? what are you using on the PS3? GameOS or Linux ?02:20
DaSkreechor your own operating system that you wrote? :-D02:20
lizhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/184683/02:20
DaSkreech!ps302:20
ubottuAside from i386 and amd64 platforms, Ubuntu is also available for alternate platforms. Playstation 3 ( support in #ubuntu-ps3 ) Apple PowerPC  ( support in #ubuntu-ppc )02:20
DaSkreechHa ha :)02:20
xp-killerDaSkreech: i had one that use to show a blue icon like a planet down to the right of my screen02:20
xjjkliz: okay... so, in the root terminal, do'mount /dev/sda3 /mnt'02:21
DaSkreechxp-killer: wait hold up. What OS are you using on PS3?02:21
Hydrantxjjk: have you tried relative mode?02:21
DaSkreechGameOS?02:21
xp-killerDaSkreech: no im not that good on linux lol02:21
xjjkHydrant: no02:21
xjjkHydrant: er, well, yes, in Windows, I thought it was horrible confusin02:21
xjjkconfusing*02:21
DaSkreechGameOS is what the PS3 ships with by default. With the XMB02:21
xp-killerDaSkreech: i took off linux from my ps3 im on my pc now02:21
lizis the last '/mnt' together or separate02:22
DaSkreechxp-killer: Ok you said you wanted to share between all three. If you have GameOS on the PS3 then you have to use DNLA02:22
xjjkliz: separate02:22
lizok done02:22
xp-killerDaSkreech: sorry share with vista(xp) and for my ps3 to read not shear02:23
xjjkliz: cd /mnt/boot/grub02:23
xjjkcat menu.lst02:23
xjjkpastebin that02:23
xjjkliz: instead of cat, I guess try kate menu.lst for a GUI editor...02:23
DaSkreechOk What kind of files do you want to share with Vista ?02:23
DaSkreechalt + F2 ->kate /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst02:24
xp-killerDaSkreech: like windows media player something like that but samba i cant get it to work so im looking for something else02:24
DaSkreechxp-killer: Look at the ps3media server02:24
DaSkreechShould work for all three02:24
xp-killerDaSkreech: all files but mostly video02:24
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lizhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/184686/02:25
megatroneu02:25
megatronTenho muito que aprender02:25
xp-killerDaSkreech: can vista take files from what they see in ps3media server?02:25
DaSkreechhttp://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver02:25
DaSkreechYes02:25
DaSkreechIts a DNLA server which WMP respects02:26
DaSkreechWMP is actually a DNLA server as well02:26
xp-killerDaSkreech: oh yea i forgot i download it this moring but don,t know how to install tgz file02:26
DaSkreechCan you open a tgz file ?02:26
xp-killeryea02:26
xp-killeri extrac it all ready02:27
DaSkreechis there a README in there ?02:27
xp-killeryea read it didnt understand02:27
DaSkreechis there an INSTALL ?02:27
nejodeliz: wow, you got 5 kernels!02:27
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DaSkreechI had like 12 at one point02:27
liznejode: every update gets listed there02:28
lizdon't know how to take them out02:28
ign0ramusliz, uninstall any kernels you don't use and 'sudo update-grub' should do it02:28
xp-killerDaSkreech: when they say run the .sh file they mean double clic on it?cause it opens with a text by me02:29
xp-killerwith kate02:29
ign0ramusxp-killer, "sudo sh filename.sh"02:29
lizign0ramus: how do you uninstall a kernel? adept??02:29
ign0ramusliz, that's one way :)02:29
ign0ramusliz, search for "linux-image"02:30
DaSkreechxp-killer: erm no open a terminal and run the file in the terminal02:30
DaSkreechign0ramus: do NOT run scripts with a sudo02:30
ign0ramusDaSkreech, point taken02:30
xjjkliz: this sucks... there doesn't appear to be anything wrong here02:31
ign0ramusxjjk, what's the problem supposed to be?02:32
DaSkreechxjjk: ok I'm paying attention what's the problem ?02:32
xjjkign0ramus: DaSkreech : liz is getting an error booting02:32
xjjklet me get it from my scrollback02:32
DaSkreechwhat error?02:32
liz:( that does suck02:32
ign0ramusxjjk, it should have a number02:32
DaSkreechign0ramus: Depends on where in the boot02:32
ign0ramusxjjk, ... if its a grub error02:32
xjjk<liz> can anyone help??  when I try to boot into kubuntu hardy I get a booting msg stating to 'check root= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules, devices: cat' What is wrong???02:32
DaSkreechGrub errors have a number kernel erros won't02:32
xjjkign0ramus: I guess it's not a grub error02:33
DaSkreechintiramfs will probably just be slient02:33
ign0ramusxjjk, definitely not02:33
xjjkliz: actually, reading that again... is the error message truncated?02:33
xjjkwas there something else on the screen, before this02:33
xp-killerDaSkreech: I DID sudo sh PMS.sh and it said sh:cant open PMS.sh02:33
pearlHi02:33
DaSkreechxp-killer: type pwd02:33
DaSkreech!hi | pearl02:34
ubottupearl: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:34
pearlIm new02:34
pearlto Linux02:34
chadme too02:34
xp-killerDaSkreech: type it were?02:34
xjjkxp-killer: er, that should be sh ./PMS.sh02:34
lizit said that the kernel was loading and that it might take a while...02:34
xjjknotice the "./"02:34
xjjkliz: your deskop did, or the LiveCD?02:34
DaSkreechxjjk: Don't need ./ if you are using sh02:35
lizdesktop02:35
DaSkreechxp-killer: in the terminal02:35
xp-killerhey pearl welcome to the world of headakes thats what linux does offer u lol02:35
chadscim and xim configuration who knows?02:35
xp-killerDaSkreech: just sh ./PMS.sh?02:35
DaSkreechxp-killer: notype pwd and tell me what it says02:35
xjjkDaSkreech: neat trick, didn't know that02:35
DaSkreechyou need the ./ if you are not using sh02:36
xp-killerDaSkreech: /home/xp-killer02:36
DaSkreechxp-killer: Ok Where did you extract the tgz to ?02:36
ign0ramusliz, can you boot into any of your kernels?02:36
xp-killerDaSkreech: on the desktop inside a folder02:36
DaSkreechcd type cd De<tab>02:37
lizign0ramus: no, they give me a black screen02:37
DaSkreechIt should autocomplete to Desktop02:37
DaSkreechthen press tab twice to get the listing of directories on your desktop02:37
DaSkreechtype the name of the one that you extracted it to02:38
DaSkreechprobably pms02:38
xp-killerDaSkreech: ok i have xp-killer@linux:~/Desktop/pms-linux-1.10.5$02:39
lizis there a way to reinstall kubuntu hardy while saving some files from the desktop??02:39
DaSkreechxp-killer: sh PMS.sh02:39
xjjkliz: yes, you can do that now easily02:39
DaSkreechor sh P<tab>02:39
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xp-killerliz yea get a usb key and save the files02:39
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xjjkliz: you can backup your entire home directory, so that all your settings/etc are kept02:40
lizhow can I get to the files??02:40
xjjkliz: in the root terminal, goto /mnt/home02:40
xjjkyou'll see the home directories for all your users02:40
DaSkreechliz: This is a laptop?02:41
xp-killerDaSkreech: it says not found ...thats weird02:41
JogadorPreciso de ajuda em Linux02:41
xjjkif your user is "liz", it'll be in liz/Desktop02:41
DaSkreech!es02:42
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:42
lizno the problem is on my desktop02:42
DaSkreechliz: can you type mount and paste bin the output?02:42
* genii makes more coffee for DaSkreech02:43
nejodeJogador is talking in portuguese..not spanish02:43
xjjkDaSkreech: liz posted his partition table earlier02:43
genii!pt02:43
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.02:43
DaSkreechassuming that liz is him02:43
geniinejode: Thanks for the distinction02:43
lizwhat? I'm a she thx :P02:43
DaSkreechOk sorry I missed that one02:43
DaSkreechwhich proves that assumption wrong :)02:43
lizI did /mnt/home and nothing happened02:43
Jogadorcomo instalar programa no Linux?02:43
DaSkreechxjjk: Which /dev is the boot partition on?02:44
lizdo I have to start a new shell?02:44
xjjkliz: er, sorry, cd /mnt/home02:44
xjjkliz: no02:44
genii!pt  | Jogador02:44
ubottuJogador: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.02:44
DaSkreechxjjk: I think the UUID might be messed up What's the device she's booting from?02:44
xjjkDaSkreech: hrm, that's possible, but I'm not sure that would have happened02:44
DaSkreechcan't kill to try02:45
xjjkliz: we can look at that next... let's get all your stuff backed up first02:45
xjjkalways do backups =/02:45
DaSkreech\o/ backups02:45
lizwell it isn't giving me anything... "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$" isn't even on the left side of the terminal02:45
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xjjkliz: really? what is?02:45
liznothing :-/02:46
xjjkliz: open another terminal...02:46
lizok that did it02:47
Hydrantxjjk: okay, tablet works well02:47
xjjkHydrant: awesome02:47
DaSkreechJontheEchidna: Ping02:47
xjjkliz: able to get to your files?02:48
xp-killer!tgz02:48
ubottuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression02:48
DaSkreechdoes hardy use /dev/hda or does it use /dev/sda ?02:48
lizI see the user names02:48
DaSkreechxp-killer: Ah right sorry. What does ls say ?02:48
geniiDaSkreech: sdX02:48
DaSkreechgenii: The boot menu is showing /dev/hd02:49
xjjkliz: you can backup all your settings, documents, etc by just backing up your user's directory02:49
DaSkreechgenii: I know you don't care I'm just saying is all02:49
DaSkreechwell not all your settings02:49
DaSkreech but a major basket ful02:49
xp-killerDaSkreech: not found02:49
geniiDaSkreech: If custom kernel from vanilla, will be hdX if stock kernel after 2.6.19 then sdX02:50
DaSkreechxp-killer: What?02:50
xp-killerDaSkreech: exec: 48: java: not found02:50
DaSkreechyou typed ls and it said not found ?02:50
xp-killerls???02:50
DaSkreechxp-killer: Which means you didn't install java I guess02:50
xp-killerwhere im i sopose to type that?02:50
DaSkreechxp-killer: ok wait pause. Did you install Java ?02:50
lizhow can I backup files using the terminal?  never used the terminal this way02:50
xp-killerwhen u install linux java doesnt come install?02:50
DaSkreechnope Sun doesn't allow it02:51
lizno xp-killer02:51
xp-killerso how is linux working without java?02:51
DaSkreechEasy install in any case02:51
DaSkreechxp-killer: Linux is older than Java soooo quite well02:51
DaSkreech!search jre02:52
ubottuFound: jre, java-#kubuntu, java02:52
DaSkreech!find jre02:52
ubottuFound: default-jre, default-jre-headless, icedtea-6-jre-cacao, openjdk-6-jre, openjdk-6-jre-headless (and 6 others)02:52
xp-killermm i have to read up more on java and what it's for mostly02:52
DaSkreechcute02:52
xjjkxp-killer: that's an interesting question you could probably get a lot of debate about02:52
DaSkreech!find sun02:52
ubottuFound: asunder, iiimf-le-sun-hong-kong-chinese, iiimf-le-sun-simplified-chinese, iiimf-le-sun-thai, iiimf-le-sun-traditional-chinese (and 70 others)02:52
DaSkreech!find java602:53
ubottuFound: default-jdk, default-jre, default-jre-headless, openjdk-6-jdk, openjdk-6-jre (and 10 others)02:53
DaSkreechbah02:53
DaSkreechSometimes it helps to not be lazy02:53
xjjkDaSkreech, xp-killer it's sun-java6-jre02:53
DaSkreechI knew it was some variation of that :)02:53
xjjkopenjdk will probably work too02:53
DaSkreechxp-killer: install that package02:53
DaSkreechit will ask you to read and accept an EULA02:54
xp-killerok instaling02:54
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xp-killerDaSkreech: anything else i have to install befor i got back to the sh problem?02:55
lizIs there a way to open the files I already have on the liveCD?02:55
xjjkliz: er, what do you mean02:56
lizto open the folder 'documents' from the listed users onto the liveCD02:57
xp-killerDaSkreech: !cookie02:57
xp-killer!cookie02:57
ubottuWow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!02:57
xjjkliz: you want to use Dolphin to open it, you mean?02:57
lizI don't know how I would copy it onto my usb02:57
xjjkliz: right, OK...02:57
lizcan dolphin be used?02:57
xjjkliz: yes, easily02:57
xjjkstart dolphin02:57
lizok02:58
xjjkliz: there's a toolbar that shows where you are... when you start default it's usually set to "Home"02:58
xjjkdouble click on that, and it becomes editable02:58
xjjkput /mnt/home/ there02:58
xp-killerxjjk: what the maximum speed they have in the us net conection?02:58
xjjkand hit enter02:58
xjjkxp-killer: er? say again?02:58
xp-killerinternet speed in the us the maxiimum u guys have02:59
xjjkxp-killer: it varies...02:59
lizxjjk: thx very much!02:59
xjjkxp-killer: what did you actually want to know02:59
xjjkxp-killer: that's like asking what's the maximum salary in the USA02:59
xp-killer50mega conection?02:59
xjjkI'm sure it's a lot, and it has *no* effect on anybody03:00
xjjkliz: no problem.. after cherry picking the important stuff, I'd again backup your user's folder03:00
xjjkso you can easily restore things later03:00
xp-killerdown here we got max conection is 8mega but the company is ripping me off there given me a 512k conection :-(03:01
xjjkxp-killer: yeah, it varies03:01
xp-killerxjjk: what u got?03:01
xjjkxp-killer: I'm in NYC, I've 10mbit/384kbps03:02
xjjkI don't care about the downstream... the upstream is the major limiting factor03:02
xjjk384kbps is *slow*03:02
xjjkwhen I want to upload photos or videos, I end up going to Starbucks03:02
xjjkthere's a whole rant here about the state of broadband in the United States and how misleading advertising/unbalanced offerings like this is limiting the economy03:03
xjjkbut I'm not going to go there03:03
xp-killerxjjk: upstream?dont u mean down?to download if u have a 10M and only downloading at 384k thats highly a rip off03:03
xjjkxp-killer: upstream means how quickly you can upload03:03
genii!ot03:03
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:03
xjjkxp-killer: yes, this is off-topic in here03:04
xp-killersorry03:04
* ign0ramus wonders just what kind of coffee genii drinks O_o03:04
xp-killeri just wanted to kill time for my java to finish download03:04
geniiign0ramus: Rocket fuel ;)03:05
ign0ramusgenii, must be!  gnite all :)03:05
xp-killer!ot03:05
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:05
xp-killergenii: ^03:05
lizSo how do I backup my usr folder?? :P it's locked I'm a noob when it comes to the complicated things of linux03:05
xjjkliz: locked?03:06
xp-killerliz: i remember when i was at that earea trying to get my files from a liive cd on my hdd03:06
lizwriting mnt/home/usr gives me a locked folder03:07
daskreechBack03:07
xp-killerliz: ive could of help u but i lost my text how i rote down how to do it03:07
lizxp-killer: first time's a killer, many of my brain cells are being fried :)03:07
xjjkliz: sorry, still not following... you should be able to copy/read /mnt/home/username03:08
xp-killerlol03:08
xjjkyou may not be able to write to anything there03:08
xjjkyou'll get some permissions problems probably03:08
xp-killerdaskreech: im still downloading java :(03:09
lizyep that's what I meant, permission issues, like the desktop03:09
xjjkliz: you wanted to write to stuff there? I'd backup everything first...03:09
daskreechok what did I miss?03:10
xp-killerdaskreech: my 8mega speed gone down to 512k speed03:10
daskreechxp-killer: big ain't it?03:10
xp-killerdaskreech: i have to wait till midnight to get back my 8mega im gona sued the company03:10
xp-killerdaskreech: how do i work samba?03:10
daskreechxp-killer: Ahhh one of those03:11
daskreech!samba03:11
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.03:11
xp-killerdaskreech: i went tru that already03:11
daskreechwhat happened?03:11
lizno not write stuff, just opening the folder...03:12
xjjkxp-killer: I've never used it, but there's a KDE systemsettings module for samba03:12
xjjkliz: mmm, you should be able to open it...03:12
xjjkliz: if you're having problems, I guess open another terminal03:12
xjjkand do sudo dolphin /mnt/home/username03:12
daskreechwhats happening with liz?03:12
xjjkthat'll start dolphin as root and you'll bypass the user issues03:12
daskreechxjjk: kdesudo03:12
xjjkdaskreech: liz is trying to backup her home folder while in the LiveCD environment03:12
daskreech!kdesudo03:12
ubottuIn KDE use « kdesudo <program> » (or « kdesu <program> » for Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! | See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to find out why03:12
daskreechto where ?03:13
xp-killerdaskreech: adept crash on me when i did next for the window that pop up while installing java,how do i repair broken stuff03:13
xp-killer?03:13
xjjkdaskreech: some backup media.... her system isn't booting03:13
daskreechxjjk: Where is that media ?03:13
xjjkdaskreech: no clue... why is that relevant03:14
daskreechxp-killer: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get -f install03:14
daskreechxjjk: I'll try and give a one liner to backup03:14
xjjkliz: what are you backing up to?03:14
lizto a usb I guess lol03:15
xjjkliz: were you able to access stuff using dolphin running as root03:15
xp-killerdaskreech: http://pastebin.com/m4a02b7dc03:16
xp-killerliz: lol03:16
xjjkxp-killer: run sudo dpkg --configure -a03:17
daskreechxp-killer: sudo03:17
xjjkxp-killer: when you get an error about superuser privileges, prefix the command you were trying to run with sudo03:17
xp-killeroh i had to put sudo03:17
daskreechliz: whats the problem with backing up?03:17
lizxjjk: yes I did thanks, it did throw out a warning tho03:17
xjjkdaskreech: didn't have permission to her home directory03:17
xjjkliz: what was the warning?03:17
daskreechthe mounted one03:18
xjjkdaskreech: yes03:18
daskreechok03:18
daskreechWhen did Ubuntu start caring about security?03:18
lizerror /var/tmp/kdecache-ubuntu is owned by udi 999 instead of uid 003:18
xp-killerliz: no wonder it crash i had to scrole down and accept lol03:18
daskreechxp-killer: Welcome to EULA03:19
xjjkliz: yeh, not important03:19
lizxp-killer: accept what?03:19
daskreechyeah thats for the live cd it makes a few changes03:19
xp-killerdaskreech: what is EULA?03:19
xp-killerdaskreech: the agrement for java03:19
daskreechEnd User License Agreement03:19
xp-killerlol03:20
daskreechIt's where you sign your rights away to the company03:20
lizok03:20
xp-killerwe people does say WRTS daskreech03:20
daskreechno idea what that means03:21
lizanother question, will I be able to install over the existing kubuntu partition while leaving xp alone?03:21
xp-killerdaskreech:lol ok back to the sh install file03:21
xjjkliz: yes03:21
xjjkliz: you need to pay attention in the installer, but it's easy03:22
* daskreech still thinks it's an easy fix for liz :)03:22
lizok good :)03:22
xjjkliz: did you want to check the UUID thing next03:22
daskreechxp-killer: go to the Desktop directory and run the sh PMS.sh again03:22
lizdaskreech: easy for you geniuses :P03:22
lizxjjk: no, not unless I have to03:23
xjjkliz: hrmm! I just scrolled *way* back03:23
xjjkand found another error you posted03:23
xjjkit maybe the UUID thing... it's only a few minutes to check03:24
xp-killerdaskreech: ok it open a window with a ps3 then it give me a big X saying no ps3 detected03:24
daskreechha ha That's funny ok I don't know what that's about03:24
daskreechbut it works now play with it03:24
lizxjjk: ok03:25
xp-killerdaskreech: yea befor i play with it a couple a month befor they help me to creat a way i can double clic it  so i dont have to go in the terminal every time to run it03:26
xjjkliz: hold on a second...03:26
lizxjjk: I'll do whatever to help find a solution to this if possible03:26
daskreechYou don't have to. Once you get it setup you can just have it start everytime the computer boots or everytime you login your choice03:26
* daskreech starts singing "i'd do anything" from Oliver twist03:27
xjjkliz: in a terminal, run sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda303:27
xp-killerliz:easy way if u got a nother pc with xp or vista just conect your linux hdd to it and save what u want03:28
daskreechIt's one line so you can paste the answer here instead of pastebin03:28
lizxjjk: ok done03:29
xjjkliz: what was the output?03:30
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lizhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/18470903:31
ZoinhodeboaBoa noite03:31
lizeasier to type url than the characters outputed :P03:31
daskreechZoinhodeboa: Hello03:31
daskreechha ha :)03:31
xjjkliz: blah, so this isn't the problem either...03:31
lizahhh, I have such luck, nothing is wrong when something is wrong03:32
ZoinhodeboaGood afternoon03:32
daskreechxjjk: What were you checking?03:32
xjjkliz: any other errors?03:32
daskreechZoinhodeboa: Good afternoon03:32
xjjkdaskreech: her system doesn't boot... after grub, she gets a black screen and/or some error03:32
xjjkwas thinking it was a grub issue, but her grub config looks fine03:32
daskreechxjjk: Right but what did the UUID tell you?03:32
lizno more errors03:32
xjjkdaskreech: the same as what's in her grub config, it's correct03:33
xjjkliz: no other errors whatsoever?03:33
daskreechRight but try and make rot=/dev/sda3 and see what it does03:33
daskreechroot03:33
xjjkI guess that's one thing to try03:33
xjjkthough I don't know why a UUID would stop working03:33
daskreechI think it's interesting that the grub config is mentioning /dev/hda when the system is using /dev/sda03:33
xjjkdaskreech: it doesn't say hda anywhere for me...03:34
xjjkdaskreech: liz's grub config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/184686/03:34
xjjkliz: earlier, someone asked you to boot into the rescue mode03:34
xjjkwere there any errors there? you mentioned that it dumped you into busybox03:34
xjjkit should have printed some errors before doing that03:35
lizxjjk: never got any other errors other than black screen w/the error or warning03:35
xjjkwhat about rescue mode?03:35
lizxjjk: when I went into rescue mode, things came up but the screen was frozen03:36
lizcouldn't type03:36
xjjkdo you remember what came up?03:36
lizand characters were huge03:36
lizsame warning I think03:37
xjjkremember what it was?03:37
ZoinhodeboaSorry, I'am fromk brazilian not espeak ingles03:37
lizno03:37
xjjkliz: not sure how much patience you have to fix this... but as is you've got enough to reinstall and restore all your settings03:37
xjjkliz: do you remember if you made any changes to /etc? you may want to back that up as well03:37
genii!br | Zoinhodeboa03:38
ubottuZoinhodeboa: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.03:38
geniiZoinhodeboa: eg: /join #ubuntu-br03:38
daskreechxjjk: Look at the explanation for the windows entries03:38
lizI made no kind of change, that's what's fustrating03:38
xjjkdaskreech: those are comments03:38
lizI don't mess with kate lol03:39
xjjkliz: AFAIK this is a *really* freak occurence03:39
xjjkthe boot process usually doesn't break this bad03:39
xjjkwithout any errors03:39
daskreechxjjk: Actually for most of the entries I've seen for that error people say it breaks randomly03:39
daskreech also it fixes itself randomly03:39
xjjkdaskreech: what error03:40
daskreechSeems to be related to the UUID03:40
lizhow lucky am I03:40
daskreechThe one that got cut off at cat03:40
xjjkdaskreech: maybe03:40
xjjkI personally don't use UUIDs03:40
xjjkso I've never seen this kind of thing03:40
xjjkliz: want to try fixing this before reinstalling?03:41
daskreechliz: :) Overall though I think it might be asier to reinstall We can help you make a /home directory03:41
lizi'm up for anything that helps03:42
xjjkliz: I'll do the editing for you to make this faster/error-proof03:42
xjjkliz: can you post your grub config again, that is, the contents of /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst03:43
xjjkopen with sudo and kate03:43
lizhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/184715/03:45
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liz2ok, same liz here03:47
xjjkliz2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/184716/03:47
xjjkuse the "Download as text" link there03:47
xjjkand use this config instead of what you have03:47
xjjkliz2: er, rather03:47
xjjkbackup what you have03:47
xjjkand then use this03:47
liz2back up the kate file?03:48
xjjkliz2: er, yes... it's easier to do on the command line03:49
xjjkin a terminal, sudo cp /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst.bak03:49
liz2oh I saved it to a usb, does it matter?03:50
xjjkthe backup? no03:52
xjjkliz2: there probably isn't use for the backup, just keeping it in case03:52
xjjkliz2: make sure the file I edited for you looks just like the original, i.e. no line numbers!03:52
liz2ok, no numbers appeared03:53
xjjkok03:53
xjjksave, and if you're done backing stuff up03:53
xjjkreboot03:53
liz2is this preparing for a reinstall?03:55
xjjkliz2: no, it's trying to salvage the previous install03:55
xjjkif this doesn't work, then it's probably best time-wise to reinstall03:55
liz2ok so basically reboot w/o liveCD then03:56
xjjkyes03:56
liz2ok03:57
liz*sigh* guess it's a reinstall04:01
xjjkliz: sucks, I'm sorry04:01
lizxjjk: thanks for all your effort though :)04:02
lizback to liveCD! lol04:02
xjjkliz: no problem04:05
xjjkliz: you're installing 8.04 again?04:06
lizyes I will, after doing backup of course04:07
daskreechliz: Make ~ directory!04:26
lizdaskreech: what is that for?04:29
daskreechI mean Partition >_<04:29
SerpardumIn kate editing .cpp code when I press tab kate inserts 2 spaces.  I want it to enter 3 spaces.  where do I change that?  going through kate settins I saw it was 8 spaces for tab, so it's specific for .cpp I think04:29
daskreechIt keeps all the program files away from your data04:29
daskreechmakes reinstalling much much easier in future04:30
xjjkliz: yeah, what daskreech said04:30
xjjkI've had the same /home partition (unchanged) for 2 yrs04:30
Serpardum~ is home04:30
xjjkthough I've reinstalled 3 or 4 times04:30
Serpardumn/m I found the setting, it was under indentation, not tab04:31
lizso what's the process so I can write it down :)04:31
xjjkliz: it's somewhere in the installer... there's a partition editor04:32
xjjkliz: it's the kind of thing I did once 2 yrs ago, and don't remember to do off the top of my head04:32
xjjkLinux does that to you04:32
xjjkset stuff up once and never set it again (hence, you don't remember)04:32
lizok but I do a partition for what?04:32
xjjkliz: /home04:33
Serpardumfor a directory04:33
Serpardumwhat xjjk said04:33
daskreechSerpardum: What's tab for then?04:33
daskreechxjjk: I know I hate it so much04:34
lizsounds complicated lol04:34
xjjkliz: it's not actually04:34
daskreechliz: How big is the linux partition now?04:34
Gamarok__bye guys04:35
* daskreech waves04:35
daskreechNo bye for the Girls and robots?04:36
daskreech:(04:36
daskreechliz: I guess you have a Swap as well :)04:36
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lizits 50gb04:37
daskreechliz: Ok cut that in two parts with 10GB for / and 40GB for ~04:38
daskreechsorry /home04:38
daskreechand you are done :)04:38
lizso I just create a partition named /home on installation04:38
daskreechRight04:38
daskreechand make it huuuuge04:38
daskreechmy / is 7GB and I've never filled it04:38
daskreechand I install a lot of rubbish04:38
daskreechwell was04:38
daskreech:-(04:38
daskreechI miss my dead computer04:39
lizwon't linux install in the largest partition if I divide in two?04:40
xjjkliz: you can configure that04:40
xjjkin the installer04:40
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lizok,  I'll try04:41
lizthat will be a task for tomorrow04:41
daskreechliz: let us know when you are there if you get confused :)04:41
daskreechIt's a 15 minute install so shouldn't take long04:41
lizwill you be on  tomorrow??04:41
liz:)04:42
daskreechI can try :)04:42
daskreechFirst 1/2 of the day04:42
lizohh kay, maybe I'll catch you04:43
daskreechUse a big hook04:43
lizbeen on for a long time now, am exhausted04:43
lizlol04:43
lizgood night all, thanks for all the help04:44
* daskreech hands you cocoa and a big pillow04:45
xjjkmmm... cocoa...04:47
xjjkI'm unfortunately out of milk04:47
daskreechAnd in steps holycow ;-)04:49
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* genii hands snowblack a coffee05:46
snowblackchanel speak spanish????05:46
snowblackplase05:47
snowblackpleas05:47
snowblackplase05:47
snowblackplease05:47
geniisnowblack: for spanish: /join #ubuntu-es05:47
snowblackthank's05:47
geniisnowblack: You are welcome05:47
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Valeaustraliahi guys06:08
Valeaustraliai have a problem vould u help me please^06:08
Valeaustralia?06:08
genii!ask06:11
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)06:11
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andrea_K im new to this thingy..am i doing it right06:20
daskreechandrea_: Hi06:34
daskreechandrea_: are you doing what right?06:37
angelohola06:42
daskreechhello06:43
andrea_by god there be talkin06:47
daskreech:-)06:48
angelocual es el irc en español?06:50
p_quarles!es | angelo06:50
ubottuangelo: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.06:50
angelothanks! p_quarles06:51
p_quarlesangelo: de nada06:53
heruallow06:54
daskreechAloo06:54
Drementlishi06:57
heruhi, are u an ubuntu user?06:57
Drementlisi want to switch to kubuntu06:57
Drementlisbut i have a problem06:57
heruwhat problm06:58
daskreechok06:58
Drementlisi cant connect with network manager06:58
Drementlisit detects other wifi spots so isnt a driver problem06:58
daskreechdo you have a hidden essid ?06:59
Drementlisnop06:59
davidjheinrichhi all...I'm considering using Bibble 4 for editing RAW files. Does anyone know if that works in KDE 4.2? Also, what happens when I upgrade? (because Bibble is a proprietary program)?06:59
xp-killer_hi how do i know if the upnp is enable?07:01
daskreechdavidjheinrich: Long as it's not tied to the kernel or static linked to libc you should ok07:03
Drementlisdaskreech do you know what could be my problem?07:03
heruhi all, how can I setup my scaner hp scanjet2400 on ubuntu ? coz my xsane just detect my BT878 Prolink video but not the scaner..?07:04
davidjheinrichdaskreech: how can I find that out?07:04
daskreechdavidjheinrich: Quick web search for bibble and upgrade distro would probably tell you07:06
daskreechDrementlis: It can't see your Wifi? or it can see it and can't connect?07:06
davidjheinrichdaskreech: google sucks, it brings up websites with "bible" in them07:06
daskreechdavidjheinrich: Put bibble in quotes07:09
daskreechOr don't use google07:09
daskreechone of the two07:09
davidjheinrichI did "... bibble -bible" and that worked too07:10
koruptedhey guys im having a problem with my sound when i move my mouse real fast or computer boots the sound starts skipping07:11
koruptedany ideas07:12
daskreechturn off compositing ?07:12
koruptedhow do i do that?07:12
koruptedthank you in advanced L)07:13
korupted:)07:13
daskreechwell quick temporary way is alt+shift+F1207:14
daskreechThat flips it on and off07:14
koruptedawesome07:14
koruptedlet me check the sound real quick07:14
koruptedyeah that works how can i turn it off for good?07:15
koruptedwait nope its messing up still07:16
daskreechDoes it mess up when you do something?07:16
daskreech or just random mess ups?07:16
koruptedyeah like if i move the mouse as fast as i can it messes up07:17
daskreechHere is where I invoke groucho Marx07:17
koruptedlike move it back and forth real fast or move apps around type on the net. all sorts of things do it.07:17
daskreechDoctor It hurts when I do this! What can I do to stop it?07:18
daskreech Don't do that anymore07:18
daskreechNext!07:18
daskreechWhat soundcard?07:18
Elonehihi07:18
koruptedhda nvidia07:18
daskreech>_<07:18
daskreechNew drivers just came out you may want to try those07:18
daskreech nVidia and intel have been doing strange things with the drivers in the past two updates07:19
Eloneit is impossible to have tab key in console work like DOS which cycle the possibles?07:19
faileaser07:19
faileasdos never did that iirc07:19
koruptedaww okay, so download the source an compile it?07:19
daskreechkorupted: nvidia. No source code available07:21
daskreechkorupted: just a big file with a red button you press while it does magic things you don't know about:)07:21
daskreechElone: Why would you want that?07:22
daskreechjust press tab twice07:22
koruptedha i heard that thank you daskreech07:22
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fatalbytehi guys!!07:41
daskreechAnd robots07:41
daskreechRobots need love too07:41
fatalbyteok and bots too07:42
fatalbytecan some1 help me07:43
fatalbytei'm having trouble opening ports using ufw07:43
daskreech!firewall07:44
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux  distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Uncomplicated_Firewall_ufw), or 'iptables' (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo). GUI applications such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist07:44
fatalbytei've tried using the command "sudo ufw allow ssh/tcp"07:45
fatalbytebut when i try to connect it simply says connection is not allowed07:46
daskreechDid you install ssh ?07:46
daskreechThat normally helps a lot with trying to ssh07:46
fatalbyteyes i've installed it07:46
daskreechthen unless you put in a firewall rule ot block it ti shouldbe allowed07:47
fatalbyteeven any default telnet port doesn't work07:47
daskreechI don't think that telnet is installed either07:48
daskreechOk start from the begining and tell us what steps you took07:50
boycraftHi. I've installed KDE on Ubuntu 9.04 (was gnome) using this instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/config-desktop/C/other-desktops.html and I've chosen kdm instead of gdm. How to choose it back? :-)08:26
godzukiHola08:35
alakhiaboycraft: you might want to look at /etc/X11/default-display-manager08:36
boycraftalakhia, thanks! When I chose it was with GUI, how to start that GUI?08:37
alakhiai don't know what gui you are talking about  :(08:38
alakhiabut i assume that gui set your default display manager and editing that file directly should do the same thing08:38
daskreechboycraft: reinstall gdm08:41
daskreechit will ask then08:41
daskreechor reinstall kdm08:41
daskreecheither one08:41
alakhiamight be easier to just run dpkg-reconfigure on gdm08:43
alakhiaah, nevermind ... might not be08:43
boycraftI didn't delete gdm08:46
daskreechboycraft: I know but anytime you install either of them they will ask for which one should be used08:49
daskreechsudo update-alternaives --dm ?08:49
boycraftwhat is this?08:49
boycraftdaskreech, I've reinstalled gdm but it did not ask.08:54
boycraftalakhia, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" works. Thanks.08:57
daskreechyeah that should work technically the same as reinstalling the gdm08:57
alakhiacool08:58
daskreechupdate-alternatives is too complex a command08:58
Think-FreeHi ! I'm trying to connect to gtalk using a based qt4 application ( kopete, psi, ... ) they say that I have a ssl problem, kopete told me to install qca-tls but it's installed, locate gave me : /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/crypto/libqca-tls.so ( qt3 ??? ) I'm running the lpia version09:04
Think-Freeany idea ?09:04
alakhiatry a symlink in the qt4 dir maybe?09:07
josuehow install memory stick pro duo09:08
josuehow install memory stick pro duo09:09
Think-Freealakhia : no :/, not working09:10
josuethanks09:11
alakhiano idea :(09:11
josuehow install sony dcr-hc28 handycam09:11
josuethanks09:12
Think-Freealakhia : that's strange, I can find any body with the same problem O_O, maybe it's due to the compilation on this architecture ( lpia09:13
alakhiawhat architecture?09:14
Think-FreeI'm running kubuntu jaunty for atom ( they say 'lpia' )09:14
josuei'm running ubuntu jaunty. My laptop is Toshiba Satellite09:15
alakhiaatom is still x86, no?09:15
josueyes09:16
alakhiaso can't be that different09:16
Think-Freeyes, it's compatible :) but their is some compilation option for it09:16
josuei dont know09:17
anonimous_does anybody know useful manual to make samba dc + openldap09:17
Think-Freeand ubuntu provide a system recompiled for this architecture, i've gained one hour of battery :)09:17
Think-Freealakhia : well, thanks09:18
alakhiasorry! maybe try the regular compiled package and see if things are different09:18
Mamarokdan__: sorry, was afk, you should proceed with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and yes, 1 G of data is absolutely normal09:18
alakhiathen at least you'll know09:18
Think-Freealakhia : yes, I'll try to recompile it ...09:19
alakhiahow much total battery life on the atom?09:20
faileasdepends on what you have09:21
Think-Freealakhia : with an eeepc 901 ( linux version, with ssd ) about 6 hours with wireless and lpia version09:21
faileasand atom is x86 atch, but there's certain specific things to specific varients09:21
faileaswhich in theory speeds stuff p09:22
alakhiawow ... that's pretty good09:22
faileasthats why there's 586 and 386 versions of packages, even in 32 bit09:22
Think-Freealakhia : yes, but no tls :)09:22
Think-Freestange : Configuring qca-tls ...09:23
Think-FreeVerifying Qt 3.x Multithreaded (MT) build environment ... fail09:23
Think-Freehave to work ... bye !09:26
vovaОдні бусурмани09:43
vovaє тута хто?09:44
xp-killer_O_O09:47
zoisshi guys, i got one question: haven't there been any updates last week or did i crash my packetmanager?10:02
dan__kubuntu gutsy upgrade: yesterday, i've changed the /etc/apt/sources.list by global replacing gutsy by hardy. during the night i started synaptic against the new sources.list. How can i see that everything went ok (without rebooting) and further upgrading to 9.04?10:03
Mamarokdan__: if you have no error messages in synaptic, then I guess it's ok10:03
Mamarokdan__: but to be sure, you should run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade from the command line10:04
Mamarokzoiss: what version of Kubuntu?10:04
zoissjaunty10:04
Mamarokzoiss: and you are running KDE 4.2.2, right?10:05
zoiss4.2.3 ...I added a source10:05
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zoisslike discribben on kubuntu page10:05
dan__mamarok: thanks a lot for the help on yesterday. small errors and conflicts were encountered. (for instance, celestia did some problems. i removed it, and kde could feel happy.)10:05
inferno_i7_I just tried to install from the liveCD and it failed. Im booted from the liveCD right now. Is there a way I can install kubuntu from terminal?10:06
Mamarokzoiss: well, it's absolutely possible there were no updates, to be sure you can run sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade from the command line10:06
dan__mamarok: apt-get dist upgrade will move me then to 9.04?10:06
Mamarokinferno_i7_: which version?10:06
zoisstank you10:06
zoiss*Thank10:06
Mamarokdan__: no, not at all, it will upgrade the distribution to Hardy10:07
inferno_i7_Mamarok Jaunty10:07
dan__mamarok: thanks, i'll try it again10:07
Mamarokdan__: from hardy you can upgrade to Jaunty, but you should know that Jaunty doesn't come with KDE 3.5 anymore10:07
Mamarokinferno_i7_: can you run the live CD on your system?10:07
inferno_i7_Mamarok: I am on the system running off the live cd right now10:08
Mamarokzoiss: yaw :)10:08
Mamarokdan__: you are welcome :)10:08
Mamarokinferno_i7_: and what did fail during the isntallation?10:08
Mamarokinstallation*10:08
inferno_i7_Mamarok: My installs keep halting around 50% telling me to move to a cooler environment10:08
inferno_i7_I didn't grab the error... pretty st0n3d10:09
Mamarokinferno_i7_: that is a problem on your system, it's overheating10:09
inferno_i7_Mamarok: CPU temp is around 35C10:09
Mamarokinferno_i7_: you should make sure first that everything is OK with the CPU cooling10:10
Mamarokinferno_i7_: obviousley it was not when you tried to install10:10
inferno_i7_Mamarok: Mamarok the ambient temp of the case is 28C and the CPU never gets above 37C10:12
Mamarokinferno_i7_: if the CD runs, then an installation should work, unless you have some strange configuration10:12
Mamarokinferno_i7_: try again and grap the error this time, if the installation was instlaling packages it will ask you if you want to resume at some point10:13
Mamarokinstalling*10:13
inferno_i7_Mamarok: I had Intrepid on this system but the upgrade ruined my install. So I burned a Jaunty disk and formatted my ext3 partition. Error while installing packages. I will try to install again and write down the error10:14
Mamarokok, you did save your /home before?10:15
inferno_i7_Mamarok: I only backed up what I needed10:15
Mamarokok10:15
inferno_i7_Mamarok: Should I opt to format the ext3 partition again or just try to procede with the install10:16
Mamarokinferno_i7_: did you have any error messages when you formatted last time?10:17
inferno_i7_Mamarok: Negative.10:17
Mamarokif not, I don't think you will have to reformat10:17
inferno_i7_Mamarok: "[Errno 5] Input/Output error"10:20
inferno_i7_Mamarok: "often due to faulty CD/DVD"10:20
Mamarokinferno_i7_: the md5sum was ok?10:21
inferno_i7_Mamarok: no idea what you are talking about... it got to 57% "Copying Files"10:22
Mamarokinferno_i7_: when you download an ISO, there is a md5sum check to do, usually k3b checks it when bruning the iso to CD10:23
Mamarokif there was an error in md5sum, your iso is corrupt10:23
Mamarokif the md5sum is ok, then try reburning a CD, could be the media that has errors10:23
inferno_i7_I'll try burning the cd at an even lower speed. Be back later if I have issues. godspeed mamarok10:24
Mamarokok10:25
Mamarokcu later then10:25
dan__rebooting after upgrade to hardy, wish me luck!10:34
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BDogg8509Heya, is anyone able to help a n00b install graphics drivers10:50
dwidmannBDogg: probably11:01
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Mamarokok, away for food, later11:23
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replmanHi! I would like to change the font of thunderbird in kubuntu. How to do that?12:04
replmanI can only change the font/size of displayed messages, but i want to change the font/size of the ui12:06
kaktuskattaHi all! I'm thinking about migrating from ubuntu to kubuntu12:08
kaktuskattaI downloaded the 9.04 image yesterday, and when I tried it, I were unable to connect to my wireless network with WPA-PSK12:08
kaktuskattais this a known problem? I have no problem with the card in Ubuntu 8.0412:09
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kaktuskattaI simply entered the password, and it replied with "connection eth1 failed"12:10
kaktuskattadmesg didn't give me a clue12:10
inferno_i7_mamarok: you there?12:10
inferno_i7_I have burned multiple copies of the kubuntu installation disk (bitTorrent Jaunty x64) Everytime I try to install It gets to ~57% and gives me an I/O Error. I can run the system off the live disk. What are my options12:12
inferno_i7_I verified the data burned on the disk and wrote it at 3 different speeds and the slowest speed was even a different brand CDR12:12
inferno_i7_I have had Kubuntu Intrepid Ibex on this system before and am dual booting so I can verify it is not a hardware issue12:13
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inferno_i7_Im really stuck and this is a powerhouse machine that i need up and running ASAP12:15
kaktuskattainferno_i7_: Seems like most people here are sleeping12:15
inferno_i7_kaktuskatta Sleep is for n00bs12:16
kaktuskattainferno_i7_: :)12:16
nighteaglehello12:16
kaktuskattaI eventualy found something related to my problem by googling it, the tricky part is to be spesific12:17
inferno_i7_kaktuskatta: I need to start this fluid simulation by this afternoon or I am dead meat12:17
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bart_hey nighteagle12:17
inferno_i7_Is it possible to install through terminal while booted off the livecd12:18
inferno_i7_like a manual install12:18
nighteagle___tell me, is the a full-featured video ripping/converting program for kde and/or in qt?12:18
Gamarok__avidemux night eagle12:19
inferno_i7_nighteagle__ I dunno man but if you have the appleProRes codec.... it makes H264 look like a saggy sniz12:19
Gamarok__!avidemux12:20
faileasyou could just get handbrake but it uses gtk12:20
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about avidemux12:20
nighteagle___avidemux is'nt enough correct when it transcode videos12:21
kaktuskattaCheck here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer."12:22
kaktuskattainferno_i7_:Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer."12:23
nighteagle___thank u for the answer, good day!12:23
kaktuskattainferno_i7_: There's an alternative version available for download from kubuntu.org12:23
bart_hey guys12:27
BDoggheya12:27
firatslm tükçe bilen varmı12:36
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contrastGreets, everyone.12:37
contrastAnyone know the dbus call to deactivate compositing in KWin?12:38
firatHi ALL12:39
firatsorry ı dont verry engilish. :)12:39
contrasthi firat12:39
contrastfirat: what's your native language?12:39
firatturkish12:40
contrast!tr12:40
ubottuTurk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.12:40
contrast:)12:40
firattehamkyou12:40
contrastyou're welcome12:41
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dhmitrihello13:03
dhmitrii need some help here_________13:04
kaddi!ask13:04
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:04
dhmitriok13:04
dhmitrimy ''systray''_______ it disppear13:04
dhmitrihow to put it back on the painel13:05
dhmitrihow to put it back on the painel* ?13:05
dhmitri!ask13:06
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:06
Dragnslcrdhmitri- the system tray is a normal plasmoid, so you can add it to a panel just like any other one13:07
dhmitri- how to set my systray applications?13:07
dhmitri( my systray menu not appear)13:07
Dragnslcrdhmitri- I just told you13:08
dhmitrii need some portuguese help.13:09
dhmitrii can not explain better with my english13:10
kaddi!wubi13:32
ubottuWubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.13:32
dan_wubi kills resources on windows, there is no way to tell the processor how to share time between wubi and windows, i had problems to uninstall wubi. The solution was to uninstall windows. Now the laptop works as a computer mashine13:35
awefhi13:45
AlienDKHai13:45
awefi have a little question to ask...13:46
AlienDKHope there is someone else to answer you :)13:46
AlienDKCause I'm really a newbie13:46
AlienDKundercover as a cookie13:46
awefhehe ok ;)13:46
^peter^a little question he said13:47
AdolaHi!  Hw can I share folders through a network with Kubuntu so that Windows can view it?13:47
awefis there something wrong with the apt servers? because i don't have any updates since two weeks13:47
awefby the way sorry for my english cause I speak french :P13:47
AlienDKYou're from france13:47
awefno canada13:47
AlienDKow13:47
AlienDKcool13:48
AlienDKthats better13:48
awefhaha people from france are nice.. well those that i know13:48
AlienDKI'm running a CS: Source server13:49
AlienDKand I get alot of stupid french people comming in waves13:49
AlienDKand they woun't abide by the rules13:49
awefhaha ok13:49
AlienDKI don't like french people that plays CS:S13:50
bart_come on french are good people13:51
bart_i mean i like em13:51
stephaneHello!13:58
stephanefrench pepol?13:58
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AlienDKNO!13:59
AlienDKWe are all from mars13:59
AlienDKWe speak marsish13:59
AlienDKBLuh bleh blyrhb bleh bliih!13:59
guillaume_bonjour j'esaye d'installer counter strike source j'ai suivi les instruction j'ai installé steam ( steam semble bien fonctionner ) mais quand je veut lancer le jeux sa fait préparing game to launch pui rien ne se passe14:03
guillaume_quelqu'un peu m'aider ???14:03
guillaume_je ne veut pas réinstallé windows lol14:05
kaddi!fr|guillaume_14:09
ubottuguillaume_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr14:09
guillaume_o sorry i was thinging i was writting in the ubuntu-fr sorry14:10
AlienDKll14:10
AlienDKLOL14:10
Doc_Vexi have a problem with my logon screen :V14:11
Doc_Vexits resolution is screwed14:11
guillaume_i want to install counter strike source i have installed steam but when i want to start the game i got the spalsh screen saying preparing to launch counter but after nothing happen14:12
guillaume_anny idea ??14:12
weedarSounds just died, how can I restart the kde4 sound-system without restarting X?14:17
BluesKajHowdy folks14:19
RatapoilI just updater tu Jaunty. The system is super sluggish now (I even get keyboard lag). Anyone has an idea why or had a similar experience?14:33
Ratapoilalso, does Amarok2  support ipods well? I don't see a DEVICE tab, and I dn't have my ipod with me right now to test it14:34
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_dennisterhey gang: I'm having a real problem playing a wmv video I downloaded and need for a presentation...none of the players I have installed will play it; totem actually gives me the most info: doesn't have a decoder for test/html14:41
_dennister*text/html14:41
ign0ramusdennister, mplayer14:42
_dennistervlc, mplayer, kaffeine, xine, totem...none will play it and I've already looked in synaptic14:42
ign0ramusdennister, if vlc or mplayer won't play it, are you sure the file's not corrupt?14:42
_dennisterhow do i find out if it's corrupt?14:43
ign0ramus_dennister, link to video?14:43
ign0ramus_dennister, if you can re-download it, try that first14:43
_dennisteri can't remember how I downloaded it...it's from cbc program...will get url for you14:44
ign0ramus_dennister, k14:44
_dennisterthe url where you can stream it is: http://www.cbc.ca/national/blog/special_feature/green_sweep/does_not_compute_1.html14:44
ign0ramus_dennister, let me take a look14:44
_dennisterk14:45
BluesKajhi dennister, have you tried dragonplayer ...it works on my setup. I DL'd the video using wget14:50
anfi_censorship14:51
_dennisteri haven't tried that yet...u d'loaded the same video?14:51
anfi_moin14:51
BluesKajthe computer junk one ?14:51
ign0ramus_dennister, "vlc http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/23745/thenational/archive/mccuefreegeek-052008.wmv" should play it fine, and you can save it that way, too14:51
anfi_anybody from germany here?14:51
BluesKaj!de |  anfi_14:52
ubottuanfi_: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.14:52
anfi_thx14:52
_dennisterthx...i can right-click and play the website streaming version using totem14:52
_dennisterign0ramus: i enter that string in quotes in a terminal"14:53
ign0ramus_dennister, yes, it will play the video, and vlc has options to save/convert network stream14:54
BluesKajdennister , wget is a great app,  just type wget in the cli and paste link location into the space after it14:55
_dennisterign0ramus: ok, is playing in vlc...that may very well be how I saved it to begin with :-)14:55
ign0ramusBluesKaj, that was my first guess, too, but it downloaded so fast i didn't think it pulled the right file, but sure enough - it did :)14:57
ign0ramusBluesKaj, like 2 seconds for a 4:00 .wmv ... how is that possible?14:57
BluesKajdunno ...maybe it's linking to the net14:58
ign0ramusBluesKaj, must be something like that, because filesize is only 202kb14:59
ign0ramus*kB14:59
ign0ramusBluesKaj, speaking of file properties, do you know if there's a way to display file properties while hovering over (tooltip) in Desktop Folder View?15:00
ign0ramusthat really annoys me... that was and is default behavior for almost every desktop out there :/15:01
_dennistertrying to save during streaming using vlc didn't work too well, I'm sure I chose incorrect options, but wget-saved version is playing15:01
BluesKajsry ign0ramus, dunno15:02
ign0ramus_dennister, check the file size of the one you wget'd... i don't think it's the actual .wmv file... more like a link to it15:02
_dennisteryes, it downloaded really fast, too, 202/20215:03
BluesKajodd, cuz I DL videos like thre cranky geeks with wget and the are 160mb15:04
AlienDKlol15:04
_dennisterign0ramus: the wget copy was 202B; old copy I was trying to play earlier is 4,109 B15:06
BluesKajdennister, ign0ramus, i'm gonna disconnect from the net for a min and try to play that video15:06
ign0ramusBluesKaj, k15:06
_dennisterBluesKaj: ok15:06
_dennisterign0ramus: tried using vlc line in terminal (of old saved file) and nothing...must be corrupt, yes15:08
ign0ramus_dennister, cbc may have disabled being able to save streaming video... still looking into it15:09
_dennisteryes...cbc may have done exactly that15:11
BluesKajyup, it's justa link :(15:11
_dennisterI'm trying again to transcode/save stream with vlc...brb after I go outside for cancer stick, by then it might have finished15:12
BluesKajis there another way to stream it ?. I've never had much luck with saving streams using VLC15:13
_dennisterok, cold out there! now I'm playing back saved file with vlc :-)15:18
ign0ramus_dennister, it worked?15:19
BluesKajdennister, could you post that URL again pls , id like to try saving that stream ?15:20
darkhamhey people, from the repos i can upgrade kde components to version 4.2.4, but kde.org don't said anything.... it's an official 4.2.4 or not?15:20
_dennistersorta...first part isn't too good...lotsa pixelation errors15:20
ign0ramus_dennister, seriously... i suggested the way to do it, and i can't get it to work :/15:20
_dennisterthe url where you can stream it is: http://www.cbc.ca/national/blog/special_feature/green_sweep/does_not_compute_1.html15:21
_dennisterand my saved version doesn't do the whole video, either...it stops before being completed, and starts again15:21
lorddarknessbrasnet15:25
darkhamhey people, what's the 4.2.4 packages in the launchpad repo?15:27
shadeslayerdarkham: the newest version is kde 4.2.3 i believe15:27
darkhamshadeslayer: i've in my repos this " deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main "15:28
_dennisterok...I'm going to try and convert    to ogg using ffmpeg one version I saved (and does work well with vlc)15:28
shadeslayerdarkham: yes,that would be for 4.2.315:28
darkhamshadesand today i can upload all the packages to 4.2.4 version15:29
nightdrevercould u help me with a sound issue??15:29
nightdreveri reinstalled ubuntu......and now on skype....my camera turns on but i cant hear myslf talk15:29
shadeslayerdarkham: there is nothing  named 4.2.4 that i can see right now15:29
darkhamdo you have the repo i typed?15:30
shadeslayerdarkham: yes15:30
darkhami've ALL the kde4 packages upgradable to 4.2.4 version15:30
darkhamnow, in synaptic15:31
shadeslayerum...who was i talking to ?15:32
kaddishadeslayer: darkham ;)15:33
shadeslayerkaddi: short term memory loss :P15:34
darkhamkdebase-bin     4:4.2.4ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa115:34
shadeslayerdarkham: now..what exactly do you want?? KDE 4.2.4??15:34
darkhami want only to know if they are packages from the next official kde release or not15:34
darkhamif the staff upgrade various packages , make it name with ubuntu2 , 3 , 4 ecc.15:35
shadeslayerdarkham: no, i dont think so...since there has been no announcement from kde.org or kubunt.org15:35
shadeslayer*kubuntu.org15:35
shadeslayerdarkham: 4.2.3 is the latese KDE15:36
anonimous_could anybody help with openldap&15:36
darkhamshadeslayer: and is the version i run15:36
kaddias far as i know 4.2.4 will get to the ppa this week, this is not an official release, as the packages in ppa are experimental, from what I know.15:37
shadeslayerah..that could explain it :)15:37
darkhamnot ever, in this repo, kubuntu staff upload only the official kde packages in kubuntu version15:38
darkhamis the reason because i ask15:38
shadeslayerdarkham: i see only kde 4.2.3 in my repos15:39
darkhambot, ok, nothing is secure, i'll wait15:39
shadeslayerkaddi: that was fast 4.2.3 to 4.2.415:39
zzAMzzdarkham: These 4.2.4 packages should not be in this ppa, probably uploaded by accident...15:42
darkhamzzAMzz: now, i'm upgrading15:42
darkhami'm too curious15:42
shadeslayerdarkham: which server are you on??15:42
zzAMzzdarkham: Good luck!15:43
darkhamshadeslayer: unina15:43
darkhamshadeslayer: usa   , unina.com15:44
shadeslayerdarkham: hmm..im reloading the cache on the main server...just to check it out...ps: dont install any unsigned packages15:44
_dennisterign0ramus: BluesKaj: this current effort to transcode/save it with vlc, my tuner and v4L is taking quite a long time, although that's heartening to me because the video quality may end up being much better than my previous attempt15:44
darkhamshadeslayer: i don't put in my os , amatorial repo, i've only the officials, and deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main15:45
_dennisterso, since I'm outa cancer sticks, i'm going to the store down the street while this finishes...will let you know when I get back15:45
ign0ramus_dennister, i've just finished a working .ogg copy - plays fine in vlc - 37.3MB15:45
darkhamis this the reason because i've asked15:45
darkhamnow, i restart kde, good bye15:45
BluesKajdennister , do you have a "how to" URL or tutorial for saving streams with VLC ?15:46
shadeslayerdarkham: that does not mean that you cannot get unsigned packages...someone could have uploaded errorneous/dangerous packages not signed bye ubuntu15:46
shadeslayer*by15:46
BluesKajnot having much luck saving them15:46
ign0ramusBluesKaj, open VLC, "ctrl+r"15:46
shadeslayeris there an alternative to  ctrl+enter in konqueror??15:47
BluesKajyeah i tried athat ign0ramus ,and it seemed to stream but I don't know where VLC put the file ...assumed it was /home/username15:48
BluesKajbut it's not there15:48
ign0ramusBluesKaj, you specify where its saved15:48
ign0ramusBluesKaj, save network stream hit "convert/save", set what filetype and where the output is placed.15:49
darkhamyes, in the info i've "kde version 4.2.4"15:50
shadeslayerdarkham: i guess you didnt read what i posted :(15:50
shadeslayerdarkham: that does not mean that you cannot get unsigned packages...someone could have uploaded errorneous/dangerous packages not signed bye ubuntu15:50
darkhamwho can upload in kubuntu repos15:51
darkham?15:51
shadeslayerdarkham: did you get any unsigned errors??15:51
darkhami don't think everybody.15:51
darkhamnot15:51
shadeslayerdarkham: somebody clever enough to crack their security system15:52
darkhammy system isn't exploded... :)15:52
shadeslayerdarkham: i have 4.2.3....15:52
darkhamwhere i can post an image?15:53
shadeslayerdarkham: you never know....try pressing the delete key and see :P15:53
shadeslayerdarkham: can you add themes via the appearence manager?15:54
ign0ramusdarkham, www.tinypic.com or www.imageshack.us for two15:54
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Guest35117heello. question. i know only the code for chmod -R 777 and 660. are there more of them and if, where i can see it15:55
shadeslayer!imagebin > darkham15:56
ubottudarkham, please see my private message15:56
MamarokGuest35117: each of the modes can be set to read, write and execute, they add to each other15:56
BluesKajign0ramus, I must have a different VLC version , trying to styream from network , but nowhere does it ask where to save the stream to15:57
spider_if i run a gnome application (like synaptic) as root, under kubuntu jaunty,  i can't see a good GUI. what i must install?15:57
Guest35117so i have only 3 possibilities15:57
MamarokGuest35117: no, you have more, read = 4, write = 2, execute = 715:57
shadeslayerspider_: try gksu or kdesu15:57
Mamarokand it's always for root - user - group15:57
ign0ramusBluesKaj, well, i do have a modified PPA version, but you want to use the ctrl+r option "Convert/Save", not stream15:57
Mamarokexecute = 115:58
shadeslayerMamarok: any idea when KDE 4.3 will solve packaging problems??15:58
Mamarokshadeslayer: I guess it's not so much KDE but Kubuntu :)15:58
shadeslayerMamarok: ah...15:59
MamarokKDE doesn't package, the distros do15:59
shadeslayerMamarok: bah..to bad :(15:59
Mamarokshadeslayer: just a matter of time and manpower15:59
BluesKajign0ramus, ctrl+r just opens a dialog asking what file to play in /home/user/ , not a network stream15:59
BluesKajso i chose the network option15:59
spider_shadeslayer: nothing change15:59
petsoundshello, i just download skype and when i want to install it i found kpackagekit error and it also happen when i installing virtualbox, peazip and opera. thank you15:59
darkhamshadeslayer: how can i sava a screenshot, i can't in "gnome way" ...15:59
shadeslayerspider_: sorry?16:00
ign0ramusBluesKaj, right, and put in the url, then hit convert/save, and it will give you options on the filetype to save and where to save it16:00
shadeslayerdarkham: did you see imagebin?? or do you mean how to take a screenshot?16:00
darkhamshadeslayer: yes , how can i take a screenshot?16:01
zzAMzzdarkham: use ksnapshot16:01
spider_shadeslayer: i've tried with gksu and kdesudo, but i've got a bad GUI anyway....16:01
shadeslayerdarkham: print scrn button16:01
darkhamshadeslayer: it never run in my kde....16:01
shadeslayerspider_: ah... well gtk apps dont blend well with KDE16:01
shadeslayerdarkham: ksnapshot then16:01
darkhamshadeslayer: okù16:02
darkhamshadeslayer: ok16:02
ign0ramusspider_, afaik, running gui apps as superuser or root - they don't follow set gui rules16:02
spider_ign0ramus: so there is not a way for fix it?16:02
shadeslayerign0ramus: well they use the system theme when run with gksu and default theme when used with sudo16:02
Yanick_hi, I'm trying to use a usb device in VBox (a printer), but the device is grayed out. Kubuntu does not have a driver for it anyway, someone knows why VBox cannot access the printer? (it works with Ubuntu, but I don't have it anymore....)16:03
ign0ramusspider_, maybe Mamarok knows...16:03
BluesKajign0ramus, don't see a where to save it target option16:03
faileasYanick_: do other usb devices work?16:03
Yanick_faileas: my scanner works16:03
AlienDKNO U!16:03
ign0ramusBluesKaj, "destination file" after you hit convert/save16:03
faileasAlienDK: thats getting old16:03
faileasok, so we can rule out that its misconfigured ;)16:04
Yanick_faileas: the scanner and the printer are both Canon, and only the scanner works in the guest os. My guess is that Kubuntu tries to take ownership  of the device, but don't have a driver for it, so the guest cannot use it16:04
Guest35117aaaand, how can i make a good, easy back from my system?16:04
Guest35117back up i mean16:04
faileasYanick_: thats odd. the filters generally seemed to handle it.16:05
shadeslayer!backup | Guest3511716:05
ubottuGuest35117: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning16:05
faileasgranted i never tried a printer passthrough16:05
Yanick_faileas: I know. It worked with Ubuntu...16:05
darkhamshadeslayer: http://imagebin.org:80/5099116:06
Gamarok__guys  whats the support channel for ubuntu france16:06
Yanick_faileas: I just used the scanner a minute ago, and trying to print the scanned document, only to find out that the device is grayed out. If I unplug the cable, the device is no longuer listed. If I plug de printer again, it is listed, but grayed. But Kubuntu tries to inistialize (always). Would that be the problem?16:06
shadeslayer!fr | Yanick_16:06
ubottuYanick_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr16:06
shadeslayerdarkham: cool16:07
Gamarok__thanks shadeslayer16:07
Yanick_shadeslayer: why do you send me that message?16:07
faileasYanick_: plausible16:07
Guest35117ok, this is for making cd's and HDD change, but can i make a back up on a USB stick?16:08
shadeslayerYanick_: bah...wrong nick16:08
Yanick_faileas: where do I find the listed printers anyway? All I see is the printer queue and the print server settings16:08
Gamarok__actually he misadressed it i wanted the link to the channel yanick16:08
shadeslayer!fr > Gamarok__16:08
ubottuGamarok__, please see my private message16:08
darkhamis that, what i mean... :) i've only official repos and the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main16:08
shadeslayerYanick_: your nick was just below Gamarok__16:09
faileasthe cups page?16:09
Yanick_shadeslayer: I do speak french though, but won't join the fr channel :P16:09
Yanick_faileas: where is that?16:09
shadeslayerYanick_: haha..same here...im from india but wont join ubuntu-in16:09
spider_Mamarok: hi, do you know how fix a bad gui of gtk apllications runned as root?16:10
shadeslayerdarkham: its a mistake or you time travelled and got the latest KDE :D16:10
Gamarok__shadesslayer you from india thats cool man16:10
shadeslayer+either16:10
Gamarok__i am from India too16:10
shadeslayerGamarok__: where??16:10
Gamarok__bombay16:10
Gamarok__what about you16:11
shadeslayerGamarok__: ah.. Gurgaon here16:11
Gamarok__cool man thats good16:11
shadeslayerGamarok__: better not go OT :)16:11
Gamarok__oh sorry man16:12
faileasYanick_:  localhost:631 on web browser methinkgs16:12
Guest35117something else, is it possible to make a back up on a unix server? ok, i think this is not very secure..16:12
darkhamshadeslayer: i HAVE the latest kde.... :)16:12
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shadeslayerdarkham: if you must know...the latest is KDE 4.3 beta16:12
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shadeslayerdarkham: have fun..gtg16:13
darkhamshadeslayer: i've ever a little fear of the beta16:14
darkhamshadeslayer: do you tried it?16:14
BluesKajign0ramus,, nope it's not saving just flips on then off. What settings are you ussing for video encap and format ?16:14
ign0ramusBluesKaj, i tried a bunch... .ogg + something else is what gave me video and sound16:15
Yanick_faileas: doesn't seem to work...16:16
Yanick_faileas: I'll try to restart the vm16:16
Yanick_faileas: I cancelled some subscriptions (whatever that means)16:16
BluesKajtried the raw dump , ign0ramus , got an arroe but it seems to be streaming/saving the file now16:17
BluesKajerror16:17
nikki_hi16:19
kaddi_hi :)16:20
nikki_:)16:20
nikki_you speak rus?!16:20
faileas!ru16:21
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke16:21
nikki_!ru16:21
Mamarokspider_: you should not run apps as root unless you need to... what application are you talking about?16:22
prasanthhow can i do voice call in ubuntu16:26
ign0ramusprasanth, skype is one way16:28
prasanthwat abt google talk16:29
ign0ramusprasanth, yes, that works too16:30
ign0ramusprasanth, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-127035.html16:30
ign0ramusprasanth, that article is a little dated, but the principles still apply16:31
prasanthdoes it for for a wile16:32
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nightdreveron ubuntu is there any program which i can do sql on?16:32
harjotplz could some1 help me with my computer16:33
harjotlaptop16:33
Mamarok!ask | harjot16:33
ubottuharjot: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)16:33
harjotok16:33
saurabhHelp! Audio not working on Kubuntu 9.04. It worked fine when i installed Vlc player but then on the next boot, it stopped working.16:37
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peabodyHey is there a way for me to adjust my screen color calibration?16:39
saurabhcan anyone help me in fixing my audio problem in Kubuntu 9.0416:41
Gamarok__!sound16:41
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP316:41
saurabhI'll check16:42
harjothow do you lsit processes wothout the x server running from tty1????16:42
kitallis_harjot: ps?16:42
harjotwat does ps mean???16:43
harjotno not that command16:44
kitallis_ohk16:44
harjotone that lists all the processes running like ksysguard except with no gui16:44
kitallis_harjot: top?16:44
kitallis_heh16:45
harjotyes thats the one thanks16:45
prasanthcan i install yahoo  messenger  and make voice calls16:47
ign0ramusprasanth, maybe through wine, but it probably wouldn't be pretty... what's wrong with Skype or Google Talk?16:48
prasanthgtalk is is not working16:48
prasanthduring ins showing error messtall its16:48
Gamarok__guys how can i back up my grub16:49
Gamarok__!grub16:49
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto16:49
prasanthduring installation its showing error16:49
Gamarok__never mind i will check the links above16:50
ign0ramus!gtalk | prasanth16:58
ubottuprasanth: Google Talk (GTalk) is an instant messaging program from Google. Currently, Google does not have an official standalone GTalk client for Linux, but supports connections from third-party clients such as !Pidgin and !Kopete | See http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html for more information16:58
prasanthacroding to the list sent voip canot be done in this os17:00
Mamarokprasanth: Skype works quite well17:03
Mamarok!info skype17:03
ubottuPackage skype does not exist in jaunty17:03
Mamarokhm, there is a client on the skype website though17:03
prasanthbut i have frnds with google acct only17:04
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Mamarokprasanth: hm, ask them to use Skype then, it's available for all platforms17:05
Mamarokand there is ekiga of course17:05
miglohi! does someone know how to put an icon into the taskbar using kde4 with the function of shutting down the pc?17:16
Eruaranmiglo: add widgets17:17
Eruaranmiglo: click the Plasma icon on the right end of your panel, click 'add widgets', scroll down to find 'Lock/Logout', and click the 'add widget' button...17:19
migloEruaran: that's it! thanks a lot!17:21
Eruarannp17:22
VerdauzHello!17:23
miglois there a widget with its help I could start any predefined program or script?17:26
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kaddi_is it normal, that links on the desktop are readonly? o.017:31
Guest44354ǹo17:31
Guest44354kaddi, how many users do you have ?17:32
kaddi_one17:32
kaddi_ah no..17:32
Guest44354did you copy your files from a previous install ?17:33
kaddi_I have 3, but I only use mine... just haven't figured out how to delete the others17:33
kaddi_no17:33
kaddi_ls -l also says I should be able to edit them:17:33
kaddi_lrwxrwxrwx 1 kaddi kaddi   39 2009-02-18 19:55 firefox.desktop -> /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop17:33
kaddi_ah17:33
kaddi_ok... I see the problem now XD17:33
Guest44354lol17:34
kaddi_I can't write into /usr/share17:34
kaddi_:p17:34
Guest44354right17:34
norenhi all17:41
kaddi_hi noren :)17:42
Gamarok__hi noren17:43
* manux83 is back17:45
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petsoundshello, how to fix kpackagekit? thank you.17:51
Gamarok__!aptfix | petsounds17:53
ubottupetsounds: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »17:53
petsoundsits error when i installing .deb packages :(17:55
greg_hello17:57
Gamarok__hello greg_17:58
greg_Just setup Quassel looks good need to review a few thing17:58
greg_I looka my right sidebar and see a ton of people, are thet logged on but not posting or what?17:59
simoneciao18:02
jussi01greg_: pretty much18:02
greg_jussi01, Thanx18:03
vbgunzanybody know whats happening with plasma? it loses almost all icons on it... no main menu, no pager, no desktop icon, no time... this happens a lot, whats happening?18:06
vbgunzthe icons are still there *but* simply invisible I blieve18:07
Mamarokvbgunz: what version of KDE?18:09
vbgunzMamarok: 4.2.218:09
vbgunzKubuntu 9.0418:09
ldominguezhola hola18:09
Mamarokvbgunz: hm, shouldn't happen18:09
Mamarok!es | ldominguez18:10
ubottuldominguez: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.18:10
vbgunzI dont know at what point this happens but it feels random.18:10
ldominguezmmm...18:10
ldominguezhi18:10
ldominguezsomebody to talk?18:10
Mamarokvbgunz: the first time I hear about disapearing stuff I must say, it's not a plsama crash?18:10
Mamarokldominguez: !ot18:10
Mamarok!ot | ldominguez18:11
ubottuldominguez: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!18:11
ldominguezok... Im installing some apllications on the ubutu server but I think that it doestn work...18:11
Mamarokldominguez: Ubuntu server support is in #ubuntu18:12
ldominguezI installed para que sirve esto si nadie constesta.???18:12
ldominguezleft18:12
Mamarokno need to get angry...18:12
Mamarokvbgunz: just seen you found the answer :)18:15
vbgunzMamarok: yeah, I am going over the bug report18:19
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sebastianhi18:21
manux83hi18:25
Vinay-Blrhelloo room18:36
Vinay-Blri have a small issue18:36
Vinay-Blri wanna net the network card speed to 10half mode18:37
Vinay-Blri wanna set the network card speed to 10half mode18:37
Vinay-Blrso how to do it?18:37
Vinay-Blr?????18:38
Mamarokso much for patience...18:38
enrico_ciao18:41
Mamarokhi18:42
enrico_sono nel canale azzurra18:43
Mamarok!it | enrico_18:44
ubottuenrico_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)18:44
jim_phi people18:45
jim_pi am having a small issue here18:45
jim_pand i need help pbadly18:45
p_quarles!ask18:45
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)18:45
jim_plol18:45
jim_pits my fisrt days on kde, be gentle18:45
Mamarokjim_p: he is18:46
jim_pin kde3, aka konqueror 3, if i typed "media:/" in its address bar, it took me to a "place" that i could see my drives etc18:46
jim_plike "My computer" in windows18:47
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Mamarokjim_p: and?18:47
jim_pnow the same address in kde4, aka konqueror 4, pops a silly error about a not supported protocol18:47
jim_pi want a "My computer" layout in konqueror!!18:48
Mamarokjim_p: because the media devices appear as mounted in the sidebar, no need to visualize them more than once :)18:48
jim_plike nautilus can do18:48
jim_pi dont use sidebars18:48
Mamarokjim_p: alos, check your menu -> computer18:48
Mamarokalso*18:48
Mamarokjim_p: in dolphin there is a sidebar on the left18:48
jim_pand i need to see ALL my devices, even with no media inside them18:48
jim_pmenu > computer? in konqueror?18:48
Mamarokjim_p: then configure those to be visible in Dolphin :)18:49
Mamarokthe panel menu18:49
jim_pso in short18:49
jim_pno other way than sidebar?18:49
Mamarokjim_p: the default file manager is Dolphin, open it and you will see what I mean18:49
jim_pi set the default file manager to be konqueror18:49
Mamarokand do not expect KDE to beahve the same way than Gnome does and vice versa...18:50
jim_pi dont18:50
jim_pbut this is not behavior18:50
jim_pits kde3, with transparencies and plasmoids18:50
Mamarokjim_p: ...18:50
jim_pbut no media:/ !!!18:50
Mamarokyou just said you used KDE 4...18:50
jim_pyea18:50
jim_pi am on it now18:50
Mamarokjim_p: well, then let it behave the way it is ment to :)18:51
Mamarokand default is Dolphin, Konqueror is a web browser18:51
jim_pwithout "My computer" icon, its as if i am trying to write with my left hand!18:51
Mamarokjim_p: open the panel menu and you have "My Computer" there...18:51
jim_pi dont want it in sidebar! i want a window listing my drives etc!18:52
Mamarokalso, Dolphin shows you all you are looking for18:52
Mamarok...18:52
Mamarokjim_p: don't shout please...18:52
jim_plol i am not18:53
jim_pkde gives me the impression of...18:53
Mamarokwell, yes you do, no need to put exclamation makrs everywhere18:53
Mamarokjim_p: if you are a bit open minded and look at what I told you, you would see...18:54
jussi01jim_p: do you need a window? or? I have pretty much what you are describing in my lancelot menu...18:54
jim_phave you seen tshirts that girls wear and state a tag like "I wish these were brains" over their chest? this is what kde has become18:54
jim_pjussi01, lancelot?!18:54
jussi01jim_p: calm dowm18:54
jim_pi am calmed18:54
jussi01!info lancelot18:54
ubottuPackage lancelot does not exist in jaunty18:54
jim_pthis is what i need http://www.turbolinux.com/products/desktop/fuji/doc/quickstart_guide/images/konqueror_media.jpg18:54
jussi01meh, its in the plasmoids package18:55
Mamarokbecause it's a widget18:55
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jim_pjussi01, can you show me a screenshot of what it does?18:55
Mamarokwhy don't you just open it? right click on the desktop, add widget...18:56
Mamarokso you can see by yourself18:56
jim_pi dont seem to have it installed. give me a sec18:56
p_quarles!away | Shaan718:57
ubottuShaan7: You should avoid noisy away messages in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»18:57
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Mamarokp_quarles: ?18:57
jussi01jim_p: http://imagebin.ca/view/H-y_lNY.html18:57
p_quarlesMamarok: question marks aren't questions; what?18:57
Mamarokp_quarles: well, you ask him to remove a away message that is not there...18:58
jim_pjussi01, nice one, but still not inside a window18:58
gigielfosalve a tutti18:58
p_quarlesMamarok: use your scrollback18:58
Mamarokjim_p: dolphin?...18:58
jim_phow can i make a (keyboard) shortcut of it so as to make it open in a window?18:59
jim_pMamarok, no its lancelot18:59
davherewhats a good anti virus? the one i have dont dont seem to be finding what has infected my browsers.ihave clamAV18:59
Mamarokjim_p: that was an answer to your question, having it in a window...18:59
jim_pdavhere, you infected your linux installation with a virus?!19:00
Mamarokdavhere: there are no viruses on Linux19:00
jussi01!virus | davhere19:00
ubottudavhere: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2119:00
davherewonder what is making my browser act up so much19:00
jim_pjussi01, can i make lancelot show nothing else than "my computer"? then i can make a button of it and stick it on the panel19:01
Mamarokdavhere: what browser and what behavior?19:01
jim_pdavhere, flash :P19:01
jussi01jim_p: see that there what I showed you?19:01
jim_pjussi01, yea i saw it19:02
davherei run 3 browsers ff,epiptany and opera19:02
Mamarokdavhere: at the same time?19:02
davhereno19:02
jussi01its from a 1 button click - add lancelot, right click it, lancelot launcher settings, show categories inside applet19:03
Mamarokwell, what behavior are you talking about?19:03
Mamarokdavhere: ^19:03
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davheresorry i type real slow19:03
jim_pjussi01, thanks a million19:03
jim_pi will be back in some hours19:03
jim_pthere is a movie on the tv now19:03
jim_psee you guys19:03
jim_pthanks19:04
Mamarokcu19:04
davhereit's like lagy. and then freezes. and every time i go to close have to force it to close19:04
Mamarokdavhere: that sounds like a flash problem19:05
p_quarlesdavhere: that sounds like problems many have experience with flash and compositing conflicting19:05
davhereeven when it running ffine i have to force close it19:05
p_quarlesdavhere: does the force-close requirement only happen with the browsers? never with any other applications?19:06
davhereyes only with the browsers19:06
davhereevery thing else runs and closes fine19:06
Mamarokdavhere: that's flash then19:07
p_quarlesdavhere: not a solution so much as a test: uninstall Flash and see if the problem continues19:07
mrunagiim having an issue with mounting an ntfs external drive.........it says http://pastebin.com/m2bd8628519:07
xnoxHello =D I've just installed kubuntu-desktop and I'm very happy with it. There are a few things I'd love to find out about KDE what is the best starting point in exploring KDE and learn it's cool features?19:08
xnoxI've used Ubuntu/Gnome for 2 years now.19:08
davhereok i'll do that..ty for the help19:08
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jussi01xnox: if you have specific questions, just ask!19:08
p_quarlesdavhere: if the problem persists, that would rule out flash, so it may be fixable; if it is flash, not much to do about it19:09
Mamarokxnox: there are some tutorials on http://userbase.kde.org19:09
xnoxok, replacement for Gnome Do? like how do I access that search thingy in the K button?19:09
davhereok19:10
jussi01xnox: alt+f2 ?19:10
xnoxjussi01: thanks, yeah that's what I need. I'll try to reconfigure it to my old shortcut I've used for gnomedo19:11
jussi01xnox:  :)19:11
ner0xHow do I change my screen size?19:11
p_quarlesner0x: first place to try: alt-F2 and type "display"19:12
_dennisterhey gang...having a bit of trouble configuring apt-proxy, can anyone help me with backend entries?19:12
ner0xp_quarles: Is there a way to get to that manually. I'm running on virtual box.19:13
giuseppe_ciao a tutti a dopo19:13
liz2hi room, I'm having trouble copying files using the liveCD into my usb, stating that the file/path doesn't exist when it clearly does.19:14
xnoxok how do I uninstall all the gnome bits I have installed?19:14
* xnox KDE rocks19:14
p_quarlesner0x: I don't think VirtualBox will interfere with that shortcut, but it's in systemsettings under "Display"19:14
ner0xp_quarles: That leads me to KRAndRTray19:15
p_quarlesxnox: there's no one-stop way; if you really don't want the Gnome items to exist on the same computer, you'll have to remove them manually19:15
p_quarlesner0x: that works too19:15
ner0xp_quarles: the settings are not in /etc/X11/xorg.conf19:16
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liz2and the items I keep copying into the media keeps disappearing!19:16
BluesKajxnox, have you removed gnome-desktop ?19:16
ner0xWhere do I manually put them in kubuntu?19:16
p_quarlesner0x: nor should they be19:16
p_quarlesBluesKaj: that's a meta-package; removing it doesn't do anything19:16
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ner0xp_quarles: The maximum size right now is 800x600. I know it goes a lot bigger.19:16
Mamarokliz2: that usb is mounted?19:16
xnoxp_quarles: ok I'll just take it one step of the time, once I find replacement I will uninstall old gnome equivalent19:16
ner0xp_quarles: Any idea where I can specify the settings?19:16
jussi01!puregnome | xnox19:17
ubottuxnox: If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 ; sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop »19:17
Mamarokxnox: sudo apt-get remove gnome-*19:17
jussi01!purekde | xnox19:17
ubottuxnox: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »19:17
p_quarlesner0x: you may need to find a more suitable driver for the video card19:17
jussi01oops19:17
liz2Mamarok: it is, it shows up and I can open it19:17
ner0xp_quarles: It's on  mac osx. I'm not sure what type of video card they use at all.19:17
Mamarokand where do you copy that files from?19:17
xnoxthanks a lot19:18
BluesKajxnox, if you remove gnome-desktop, then run autoclean in the terminal ..it should get rid of the residuals gnome stuff19:18
liz2from sda3 partition to the usb using the live cd, or trying to19:19
xhhi! does anyone has any idea why links in googleearth do not work? using kubuntu 9.04 with Googleearth 4.3.7284.3916 (beta)19:19
harjotWhen i turn on my laptop it is set up to boot automatically, log in automatically and lock. I recently upgraded my xorg to xorg-intel [i use intel gm965] and upgraded a few other paackages i cant recall and now when i try to type in anything apart from in tty where it works, it dosent work. But when i terminated the lock screen, it said to me applet could not be strted. My wallpapaer had gone, all the icons were smaller than usual and the menu was19:19
harjotdifferent19:19
Mamarokliz2: maybe a permission problem then19:19
harjotwho me????19:19
Mamarokharjot: no19:20
harjotanyone could help???19:20
liz2Mamarok: I opened the partition and folders using sudo19:20
Mamarok!patience | harjot19:20
ubottuharjot: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines19:20
katodadoes anybody know when will be kde 4.3beta1 packages released?19:20
liz2I can see all it's content just can't move them19:20
harjotjust wondering if anyone has encountered this before19:20
Mamarokliz2: did you try copying in the command line or in Dolphin?19:21
BluesKajkatoda, they are out already19:21
katodaBluesKaj: yep, but only for Karmic19:21
xjjkkatoda: there were several packaging problems that made many problems on jaunty... hopefully they'll be fixed by beta219:21
Mamarokkatoda: but only for experienced users, as there are dependency problems19:21
xjjkliz2: greetings again; did you get your machine working again?19:21
liz2Mamarok: from dolphin19:21
Mamarokliz2: and you don't get an error message?19:22
BluesKajoops yeah , I'm running Karmic, katoda19:22
liz2xjjk: hello, now I'm having issues copying or moving files19:22
Mamarokliz2: updating the content with F5 doesn't change the view?19:22
harjotDoes anyone know of a recovery cd for kubuntu 8.04??????19:22
liz2Mamarok: error message states files doesn't exist19:22
xjjkliz2: are you still backing up, or this is on the newly reinstalled system?19:22
xjjkharjot: the LiveCD itself can be used as a recovery CD... what other functionality do you need19:22
katoda!patience | harjot19:23
ubottuharjot: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines19:23
liz2xjjk: backing up19:23
harjotyeah but how [i tried copying the files but im not sure what to copy]19:23
xjjkliz2: what problems? I thought you had backed up everything last night19:23
xnoxi've changed Alt-F2 to Meta-space but it's not working. Where can I find where to change shortcuts? (last time around i've opened it with Alt-F2)19:24
liz2xjjk: no I only got to back up a few documents, was going to do everything else today19:24
xjjkliz2: I see19:24
xjjkliz2: if you're using the LiveCD, again, you might have permissions problems... try running a root instance of dolphin19:24
harjotAnyone wish to help me [please dont !patience19:24
harjotme]19:24
liz2the pics are giving me problems19:24
Mamarokxnox: in the systemsettings -> keyboard&Mouse19:24
xjjkliz2: what problems?19:25
xjjkliz2: destination does not exist?19:25
BluesKajxh , install19:25
BluesKajGoogle Earth19:25
BluesKaj5.0.11337.1968 (beta)19:25
xnoxMamarok: thanks yeah that's it!19:25
jussi01!punctuation > Mamarok19:25
ubottuMamarok, please see my private message19:25
liz2xjjk: I did open dolphin as root w/the terminal... when I try to move/copy the folder it states that 'files didn't exist'19:25
xhBluesKaj: installed via apt-get, if that is what you mean19:26
xjjkliz2: yeh... do you want to do this on the command line instead19:26
xjjkit's a lot more reliable than doing stuff via the GUI19:26
Mamarokxnox: yaw :)19:27
katodadoes anybody have problems with iwlagn driver (it disconnects me from wireless networks)19:27
MadAGui try to apply a new icon theme in KDE but my konqueror folder icons does not change19:27
BluesKajxh, the beta 5 version is more stable than the previous ones19:28
BluesKajin my experience19:28
liz2xjjk: sure I can try19:28
xjjkliz2: do you know the paths to the source and destination?19:28
ForgeAus3rd law of computing: anything can go wro$#@&$19:28
xhBluesKaj: is it already in the repos or i need to download the binary?19:28
xjjkyou can use Dolphin to tell you; double click on the location bar in dolphin19:28
xjjkit'll display the full path19:28
liz2how do I do.... cp source destination.... correct19:29
xjjkliz2: you can use cp, I'd use rsync personally19:29
liz2or I have to use sudo19:29
xjjkliz2: you should use sudo too, since you'll run into permissions problems because you're using a LiveCD19:29
BluesKajgot mine from the repos , but make sure your repos are up to date ,and enable the 3rd party software19:29
liz2rsync?19:29
liz2so sudo resync source destination?19:30
xjjkliz2: rsync -aPv /mnt/home/liz /media/usb-disk/backup-location19:30
xjjksomething along those lines19:30
xjjkchange paths accordingly19:30
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liz2shall do19:31
gambixplease i need help about blender on 9.04 kubuntu19:32
gambixthe main windows show without any icons19:32
gambixany idéas ...19:33
gambixi've desabled all desktop effect19:33
gambixbut nothing change19:33
p-fanything that requires 3d, be it Processing or Matlab's 3d graphs show up with a lot of black artefacts. Any ideas what might be wrong, or at least what other tests could help me narrow down the possibilities?19:34
p-fglxgears works fine19:34
liz2ok so I recieved this wierd pop up msg, that I'm running low on disk space on my home partition, would I like to run Konqueror to free some space and fix problem?19:35
xjjkliz2: low space on your home partition? that's odd..19:36
liz2and on terminal it says error19:36
xjjkhow much space do you have free on the USB disk19:36
xjjkand in your home directory too, for that matter19:36
liz27gb19:37
xjjkyou've 7 GB free on your USB disk?19:37
xjjkliz2: what's the copy command you're using19:37
vithello19:37
liz2the rsync you gave19:37
xjjkliz2: what are the paths19:38
vitmierda19:38
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liz2they are /mnt/home/guest/Desktop/Pictures and /media/disk/KUBUNTU FILES19:39
xjjkliz2: that seems right..19:39
vitbuenos mal19:39
xjjkliz2: what were the errors on the command line?19:39
xjjkout of disk space?19:39
liz2xjjk: it is right, this pc sucks lol19:40
BluesKaj!es | vit19:40
ubottuvit: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.19:40
liz2rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 32768 bytes [sender]: Broken pipe (32)19:40
liz2rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (416 bytes received so far) [sender]19:40
xjjkmm, broken pipe...19:41
liz2rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(454) [sender=2.6.9]19:41
liz2I knew it, this pc is broken :(19:42
xjjkliz2: it is19:42
xjjk?19:42
harjotWhen i turn on my laptop it is set up to boot automatically, log in automatically and lock. I recently upgraded my xorg to xorg-intel [i use intel gm965] and upgraded a few other paackages i cant recall and now when i try to type in anything apart from in tty where it works, it dosent work. But when i terminated the lock screen, it said to me applet could not be strted. My wallpapaer had gone, all the icons were smaller than usual and the menu was19:42
harjotdifferent19:42
xjjkharjot: what exadctly did you upgrade...19:42
xjjkcan you unupgrade19:43
harjothow do you do that???19:43
xjjkwhat did you upgrade and where did it come from19:43
harjoti upgraded xorg [which it removed in order to install xserver-xorg-intel or someting similar]19:43
xjjkharjot: how/where did you upgrade xorg? was this an automatic update?19:44
harjotit was a recommended update by adept or whatever19:44
xjjkhrm19:44
harjotbecause i simply hadnt updted 4 a while19:44
xjjkharjot: which version of Kubuntu are you using19:45
harjotand it also installed other packages i cant recalll19:45
harjot8.04 hardy heron19:45
BluesKajharjot, you referring to the intel graphics driver ?19:45
harjotyes19:45
xjjkharjot: you're not using any 3rd-party repositories, are you?19:45
harjoti think it may have something to do , otherwise something is blocking my keyboard19:45
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harjotapart from medibuntu no19:46
harjotand also to note, any buttons that are like an ok to the keyboard have turned slightly ligtht blue but you can still clikc on them19:47
harjoti.e unlock and ok for root19:47
xhBluesKaj: thank you! removed the deb version installed GoogleEarthLinux.bin; now everything works ok!19:47
xjjkwhat you're describing is *really* odd...19:47
harjoti know i bet no-one else or maybe a few people have encounteered this19:48
BluesKajxh , cool :)19:48
harjoticons go wierd and it says error applet could not be started for abotu 10 times19:48
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harjotok change of description19:49
xjjkharjot: some of the symptoms you're describing are more than just X11 upgrades19:50
harjoti know19:50
harjotcould i just change something19:50
harjotsomeone just know told me to move .kde to .kde-bak and i did so19:50
xjjkalright19:50
xjjkwhat happened?19:50
harjotthen i restartieed and my keyboard AND MOUSE was frozen and i could get into tty and when i pressed the off buttons it played system bell19:51
harjotthen i moved everything back to .kde19:51
xh'and now for something completely different': what's the best and quickest way to figure out which app is accessing which files? strace only works with a sinlge *known* app, whereas i am looking for something like filemon on win3219:51
xjjkharjot: can you create a new user, and login with that one19:51
harjotbtw19:51
harjoteverything has changed and also it doesnt say aplt couldnt be started19:52
xjjkxh: check out fuser19:52
harjotminor/mmajor problem i cant create a new account without keyboard19:52
harjotxjjk: i cant withut keyboard working19:53
xhxjjk: i have it installed but never figured out how to use it..19:53
harjotunless u know of a command19:53
xjjkxh: fuser <name of file>19:53
liz2xjjk: you think if I use puppy linux I would be able to write the files into a cd?19:54
xjjkliz2: you should be able to with the Ubuntu LiveCD as well19:54
xhxjjk: but this is the problem, i don't know which process is accessing which file; i just want to see what is causing disc activity19:54
xjjkliz2: just wondering, do you think the disk is dying?19:54
xjjkharjot: mm, OK...19:55
steve_I just installed Kubuntu 9.04 for a friend and found that the default media player (Dragon Player) has terrible video quality when playing DVDs.  It looks like it does not implement a deblocking filter.  I would like to replace it with a different default (smplayer); but have not found how to do this.  How do I configure the Device Notifier to use smplayer instead of Dragon Player for DVDs?19:55
xjjkharjot: so, yeah, *don't* use autologin for this reason19:55
liz2xjjk: yes I do think so, this pc has been having issues19:55
harjotwhats worng with auto login????19:55
xjjkharjot: are you able to select a different user before you're automatically logged in?19:56
xjjkliz2: mmm, if there are hardware issues a different Linux distribution probably won't help19:56
BluesKajsteve_, install libdvdcss2 , kubuntu-restricted-extras19:56
harjotno there arent any but i hace to type sudo kdm because i am automatically thrown into tty19:56
harjotthere is guest but with a password lol19:56
xjjkharjot: ah, OK19:56
BluesKaj!medibuntu | steve_19:56
xjjkharjot: if you login on the console19:56
ubottusteve_: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org19:56
xjjkrun sudo adduser testuser19:57
xjjkto create a new user19:57
harjotas guest???19:57
liz2xjjk: yes but since the liveCD is taking up the cd drive I cant even attempt writing the files into a blank cd19:57
xjjkliz2: oh, right...19:57
harjoto h19:57
xjjkliz2: puppy linux lets you load into RAM I'm guessing19:57
liz2I know that puppy linux can run in ram and leave the cd drive free for use19:57
xjjkso you can swap the CD out?19:57
harjotanother problem19:58
liz2supposedly, yes, never knew about puppy 'til yesterday19:58
steve_BluesKaj:  I have already installed libdvdcss2 and kubuntu-restricted-extras.  I can play the DVD.  That is not the problem.  I just get better video quality with the other media players.  I just want to change the default.19:58
xjjkliz2: yah, you can do that19:58
harjotits asking for a unix passssssword i want it blank but then it says no passwd supplied19:58
BluesKajliz2, you can write to files using the terminal on a live cd19:58
xjjkliz2: AFAIK puppy isn't very GUI-oriented... you do everything via the command line19:58
xjjkBluesKaj: not if she only has one CD drive19:58
xjjkKubuntu's LIveCD doesn't allow you to load into RAM19:59
BluesKajon the hdd19:59
harjotok created and stuff [i jumped pwd]19:59
xjjkharjot: OK19:59
BluesKajwell, I've done it , rewrote grub19:59
liz2yes one cd drive and ond dvdrom19:59
xjjkharjot: just wondering, so kdm isn't starting automatically?19:59
harjotno20:00
liz2one^20:00
xjjkliz2: of, you've 2 drives?20:00
harjotbecause i installed kdm-kde4 and that took over as my display manager but i switched back and uninstalled it20:00
harjotand dont know how to change the settings20:00
xjjkharjot: what do you want to be using as your display manager20:00
harjotkdm [kdm-kde4 is uninstalled]20:01
liz2xjjk: one for cd writing the other for dvd20:01
xjjkliz2: can't you boot the LiveCD from the DVD drive?20:01
xjjkand write with the other?20:01
harjotbtw it says login fai;ed as if there is a password for testuser20:01
xjjkharjot: er, you didn't set a password for testuser?20:01
harjotnope20:01
xjjkI don't think it let you set a blank password20:02
BluesKajsteve_, install kaffeine , vlc or mplayer or all ..VLC is prolly the best20:02
harjoti kept pressing enter20:02
xjjkharjot: set a password20:02
harjotit wanted a passsword probably know set the default pwd20:02
xjjkthere isn't a default password20:02
xjjkthat's *horrible* security20:02
harjotbut then i cant type it in!!!!!!20:02
liz2xjjk: I don't know how, it only reads cd when booting, right?20:02
xjjkthis is Linux, not Windows20:02
xjjkliz2: er, the DVD-ROM can read CDs too20:02
harjot????20:02
xjjkit should be able to boot from that20:03
xjjkharjot: try setting a real password for testuser20:03
steve_BluesKaj:  I have installed mplayer and smplayer.  How to I tell "device notifier" to use one of them instead of Dragon Player.  I know that I can start them on the command line.  I just need to configure the gui to use them.20:03
liz2I meant the cd drive is the one that checks for a CD in the system when booting20:03
harjotok done20:03
xjjkliz2: you usually can configure that20:03
xjjksteve_: which Kubuntu are you using20:03
harjotdone20:04
steve_xjjk:  I am using 9.0420:04
xjjksteve_: AFAIK, that's in "File Assocations" in System Settings20:04
harjotyes it does log me in in tty with that pwd20:04
xjjksteve_: er actually sorry it isn't20:04
liz2by entering bios settings right?20:04
xjjkliz2: yes20:05
liz2how do I get there?20:05
harjotxjjk: done20:05
xjjkliz2: that dpends on your computer...20:05
xjjkharjot: OK... now try logging in with KDM with that user20:05
harjotminor problem. mY Keyboard is rendered as useless in kdm20:06
steve_xjjk:  I have not found anywhere in system settings that seems to control this.20:06
xjjksteve_: blah, sorry, I'm confusing KDE4 and KDE320:06
effie_jayxhello all, I am using kubuntu on an asus aspire one, every once in a while as I minimize and maximize I would get garbled windows...20:06
xjjkKDE3 has an applet for this; KDE4 apparently does not20:06
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liz2ah ok, well I'll try and look into that20:06
steve_xjjk:  Yeah. this would have been easy in KDE320:06
harjotxjjk: my keyboard dont work in kdm20:07
xjjkharjot: mmm20:07
xjjkcan you check whether there are any errors...20:07
xjjkin /var/log/Xorg.0.log20:07
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JuJuBeeI have an ext3 partition I want to mount on startup.  do I just put /dev/sdb2  /mnt/mnt_point  into fstab?20:08
kuarkheyal!20:08
xjjksteve_: maybe ask in #kde...20:09
xjjkJuJuBee: no, you need more than that20:09
steve_xjjk:  that will be my next step.  Thanks.20:09
harjotxjjk: so im stuck20:09
kuarki want to know why orca's magnifier doesn't work! :(20:10
xjjkharjot: anything in the logs20:10
p-fanything that requires 3d, be it Processing or Matlab's 3d graphs show up with a lot of black artefacts. Any ideas what might be wrong, or at least what other tests could help me narrow down the possibilities? Glxgears  seems ok.20:10
harjoterr.. how do i look at logs from tty???20:10
JuJuBeexjjk: like what?  DO I need the UUID?20:10
kuarkany computer I was tryng!20:10
xjjkJuJuBee: try: /dev/sdb2 /mnt/point ext3 defaults 0 020:10
harjotxjjk: err.. how do i look at logs from tty???20:10
xjjkJuJuBee: notice the 3 extra things at the end ofthe line20:10
xjjkharjot: tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log20:10
kuarkany computer I was tryng!20:11
kuark7, 820:11
xjjkharjot: you're not going to be able to copy and paste them20:11
mrunagi!mount20:11
ubottuPartitioning programs: !GParted or !QtParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter20:11
harjoti can type it all quickly20:12
kuark!fstab20:12
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions20:12
asranielis it normal that kubuntu experimental has kde 4.2.4 ? from what i know that kde isn't out yet.. for some time20:13
xjjkasraniel: I think it's being released this week I think20:13
xjjkasraniel: it's been tagged in SVN20:13
asranielah ok, thank you, i was just a little confused20:13
xjjkasraniel: the official release hasn't happened yet20:14
xjjkthey coordinate all this PR stuff, write a pretty changelog/etc20:14
asranielxjik:and just to be curious, you know if amarok 2.1 beta2 is comming to experimental?20:14
xjjkwhich has been done yet20:14
xjjkasraniel: no clue20:14
harjotxjjk: here it is20:15
harjotxjjk:20:15
harjot[20:12] <harjot> intel (0): Output Tv is connected to pipe none20:15
harjot[20:12] <harjot> intel(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 2220:15
harjot[20:13] <harjot> Then some wierd synaptics touchpad stuff that works then20:15
harjot[20:13] <harjot> AIGLX: suspending AIGLX clients for vt switch20:15
harjot[20:14] <harjot> intel (0) : xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 020:15
harjot[20:14] <harjot> intel (0) : xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 120:15
harjot[20:14] <harjot> intel (0) : xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 220:15
xjjkharjot: don't paste into the channel20:15
harjot[20:14] <harjot> intel (0) : xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 320:15
harjot[20:14] <harjot> intel (0) : xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 420:15
harjot[20:14] <harjot> ingore the last line plz20:15
xjjkplease use a pastebin20:15
harjotyeah i know soz didnt mean that20:15
xjjkit's OK20:15
xjjkharjot: mmm, I'm not sure what's going on20:15
harjoti would not like a fresh install as my pc is set up specially with toolchains for psp etc...20:16
harjotbut would i have to???20:16
harjotbtw20:16
xjjkharjot: it's looking as if... whatever is broken is probably fixable20:16
JuJuBeexjjk: thanks that works.20:17
xjjkbut it's very difficult to fix things unless you are very comfortable on the command line20:17
harjoti have packages that need upgrading20:17
harjotbut20:17
xjjkharjot: just wondering, did adept finish upgrading?20:17
harjotit fails to get them every time20:17
harjotyes20:17
xjjkhow/why20:17
_drhi20:17
_dris there any way to get debug information out of the network manager?20:18
_dri'm trying to connect to a wpa secured wlan, worked perfectly with ubuntu, however on kubuntu it won't20:18
_drcould it be that key has to be entered in ascii?20:19
ign0ramus_dr, check dmesg20:19
harjotxjjk: ok now im confused it says 151 not upgraded because they are probably 9.04 packages20:19
xjjkharjot: I'm confused what 9.04 has to do with this...20:19
kuarksome orca users?20:19
xjjkwere you upgrading to 9.04?20:19
kuarkOrca20:19
harjotno20:19
xjjkhow did you get 9.04 packages on your system20:19
harjotxjjk: no the 151 packages not upgraded were probaly 9.04 packages20:19
harjotbut then again im gessing20:20
xjjkharjot: if you're running 8.04, it won't know 9.04 exists20:20
_dennisterhey gang...having a bit of trouble configuring apt-proxy, can anyone help me with backend entries?20:20
xjjkharjot: on the command line, run sudo aptitude20:20
_drdmesg wont help ign0ramus20:20
harjotoh cool man20:20
harjotthats so cool20:20
harjotyeah nxt20:21
ign0ramus_dr, as it contains wlan0 messages, it may, but you can try other methods20:21
xjjkharjot: type 'u'20:21
_dri'm asking for others :)20:21
xjjkthat will update your package lists20:21
_drtheres no wlan related output in my system log20:21
harjotsome files were not donwloaded successfully20:22
harjotlooks like none were20:22
xjjkwhat files were those20:22
ign0ramus_dr, ok, are there different wpa's (psk, enterprise, etc) that you can try?20:22
harjotcould not resolve archive.ubuntu.com20:22
xjjkyou'll get a rid line for those that were not downloaded successfully20:22
_drign0ramus: yeah20:22
_drit's psk20:22
ign0ramus_dr, i use wicd, so i'm not sure what options the widget provides20:22
harjotum none of them were20:22
_drmh20:23
_drmaybe i should hook up the laptop to ethernet and install wicd then20:23
xjjkharjot: you just said unable to resolve archive.ubuntu.com... that should be a red line AFAIK20:23
harjotyeah all is red20:23
xjjkharjot: that's a serious error20:23
harjoteven with network cable + wireless20:23
xjjkis the machine connected to the Internet?20:23
ign0ramus_dr, i personally recommend it to almost everyone... networkmanager (and especially the kde widget) suck20:23
harjotive tried both20:23
harjotum ive got to go 4 dinner be back soon20:24
_drok i'll try20:24
_drthanks20:24
xjjkharjot: yeah I need to go as well20:24
ign0ramus_dr, np20:24
pulaskihello, can anyone suggest a more active channel to ask about nfs than #nfs?20:26
BluesKajign0ramus, afaik there's a fix for the Network Manager Plasma-widget on launchpad : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/37814520:31
ign0ramusBluesKaj, good to know, but i've ditched it completely20:31
BluesKajyeah , it's a roll back20:32
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harjotxjjk: back yet?????20:39
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harjotxjjk: back yert???20:51
LoreCasterHey all, it's been a while. I've got a challenge for you... Some of you may recall that I require autocad for my work, but it does not work in wine, and vbox is sluggish... I only have one tower and cannot afford a second... so KVM is out... I want to be able to parallel-boot my machine... quad-core 2.2hgx, 4gb ram. ideas?20:53
LoreCasterubuntu 9.04... if that helps, and i want to run windows xp20:53
LoreCasteri've heard this concept referred to as simultaneous-boot and parallel-boot20:55
harjotdo u mean select which option then boot into it??20:56
Shaan7_harjot: he means booting both simultaneously20:56
harjotat the same time???20:56
LoreCasternot really... that's easy. What i want to do is have capacity of running ONE computer as if i have a KVM... because i just can't get the performance out of a vbox20:56
harjoti wish i could do that20:56
LoreCasterat the same time. I remember seeing a gadget when i was in college... it had 4 buttons on it, it was a KVM box that was INSIDE one computer... two HDD's spun up simultaneously20:57
harjoti have a dual boot but i cant run both at the same timw20:57
LoreCasteri need to...20:57
harjotthats amazing never seen it before20:57
Shaan7_LoreCaster: asked the VBox guys if there are some preformance tweaks ?20:57
Shaan7_or its no use ?20:58
LoreCasterbeen there... nothing seems to work.20:58
harjoti dont know20:58
Shaan7_*performance20:58
LoreCasterAutocad is a heavy 3D app, vbox doesn't like 3D much20:58
harjotbut i need them to add graphocing support20:58
harjothow about vmware??20:58
Shaan7_Hey All, Is network manager support still broken in kubuntu 9.04 ? It still can't connect to my static IP network, my mobile dial-up etc where it all works in ubuntu (the gnome one)20:59
LoreCastertrying VM ware21:02
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harjotdang21:02
harjotdoes anybody know how to make a repair cd for 8.04 as i dont know what to do with the files from the livecd [i dont know which files to copy]21:06
urbihello21:06
harjothi21:06
harjotdoes anybody know how to make a repair cd for 8.04 as i dont know what to do with the files from the livecd [i dont know which files to copy]21:06
harjotnobody?21:07
harjotguys r u all alslepp no offence LOLOGAE!!21:08
harjotok i give up21:09
lizomg! got linux to login using supergrubdisk and grub commands!!!!21:09
HADES2hey guys i need help at ubunt21:10
HADES2any volutier ?21:10
HADES2its a sudo su problem21:10
HADES2ANY one can give me some help21:11
harjothades i think all is asleep21:11
HADES2:P21:11
harjotthere not thre21:11
harjotbut wats ur prob??21:11
HADES2i cant sudo su in console21:12
HADES2autentication falid21:12
harjotsudo su??!?!?!?!!21:12
HADES2i can login as su21:12
HADES2but i cant manage my system21:12
harjotur using ubuntu???21:12
HADES2Yes21:13
relivewill 9.04 ISO image install on a 16 GB usb flash drive?  i don't want to install it on my hard drive21:13
HADES2harjot thank is advance21:13
harjotit will but it will be quite slow but then again im not 100%21:13
harjot16gb is quite big21:13
harjotok so su prbolem21:14
reliveharjot, my concern is out of the box compatibility of the ISO image itself.21:14
lizanyone know the minimum space needed to install/test puppylinux??21:14
HADES2yep21:14
harjotit should put the files correctly on the drive21:15
relivedon't want to dig around or mount and mount the iso image to make changes21:15
HADES2but it works ok till today21:15
harjothades what exactly do u wanna do with su?21:15
HADES2install drivers21:16
harjothave you another account with root priviledges??21:16
HADES2but its the firstaccount user21:16
HADES2its have 1000 acess21:16
HADES2no its the only account21:17
lizdon't you only need to write 'sudo commandyouwant and then password when it's prompted'?21:17
harjotwell im not exactly sure how to fix but u could also change another account to have 1000 access????21:17
HADES2i do that21:17
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HADES2sudo su21:17
HADES2and promp to password21:17
harjotlol that command boggggggles my brain21:17
harjotwell im not exactly sure how to fix but u could also change another account to have 1000 access????21:18
HADES2and i enter the pass and autentication failed21:18
Guest74803hello21:18
harjotchange the pass for su]21:18
HADES2dont work21:18
HADES2i try it before21:18
Guest74803byebye21:18
Mamarokfolks, you should not use su...21:18
harjoteven from command line???21:18
HADES2its a difrent pass now21:18
harjotsu is quite annoying21:18
adz21cHi, I am running kubuntu 9.04 x64. For some reason xorg seems to be consuming a rather large amount of memory (985MB). Has anyone encountered similar issues? All I have run so far is kaffeine (for a DVD) and virtualbox, I had compositing enabled at one point but disabled in the hopes it would fix the issue, but it didn't.21:19
lizcan't u just use 'sudo' instead of 'sudo su'21:19
MamarokHADES2: there is no root in Kubuntu21:19
harjothes using ubuntu21:19
Shaan7_HADES2: su won't work in ubuntu as per i know21:19
HADES2i use adduser comand21:19
MamarokHADES2: you can run all admin tasks with sudo21:19
HADES2and the passwd one21:19
HADES2it dont work guys21:19
Shaan7_HADES2: but if you want to enable the root account (not recommended) use sudo passwd and set a password21:19
HADES2wait i will give u a log21:20
MamarokHADES2: also, if you use Ubuntu, you should check for support in #ubuntu21:20
MamarokShaan7_: that's not recommended...21:20
HADES2hades@hades-nix:~$ sudo su21:20
HADES2[sudo] password for hades:21:20
HADES2Sorry, try again.21:20
HADES2[sudo] password for hades:21:20
Shaan7_Mamarok: ya, i told him21:20
MamarokHADES2: sudo <command>21:20
Shaan7_HADES2: what do you expect from sudo su BTW ?21:20
HADES2got root21:21
Shaan7_HADES2: makes no sense to me ....21:21
harjothe wanted to install drivers21:21
harjotbecause su has 1000 access21:21
Shaan7_HADES2: which drivers ?21:21
HADES2atheros21:21
MamarokHADES2: you should install with sudo21:21
HADES2another strange thing is21:21
MamarokHADES2: the wiki driver is in the repositories21:21
harjotatheros i can help21:21
harjotmadwifi???21:21
Shaan7_HADES2: just use sudo before every command in the atheros instructions21:22
harjothades madwifi????21:22
Mamarokharjot: this will not highlight him, use tab completion for the nick21:22
harjotHADES2: madwifi21:22
Shaan7_Mamarok: i have a stupid idea for HADES2 (dont try) - sudo bash :P21:22
MamarokShaan7_: not funny...21:22
HADES2i can log whit su when i user ctrl + alt f221:22
* Shaan7_ hides21:22
HADES2and i get root21:23
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HADES2so its a gui problem or something21:23
harjothades u usiong madwifi>???21:23
HADES2yes21:23
HADES2driver is installed but i cant activate it21:23
HADES2because autentication fail21:23
MamarokHADES2: if you are using Gnome, you should go to #ubuntu for support21:23
harjotjust navigate to the folder21:24
HADES2thanks guys21:24
harjotopen terminal21:24
harjottype make21:24
harjotmake install21:24
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harjotthen type sudo modprobe ath_pci21:24
harjotrestart and then it should work21:24
harjotif not21:24
harjoti have specialized version that always work21:25
harjotok21:25
HADES2WARNING: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/net/ath_hal.ko': No such file or directory21:25
HADES2WARNING: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/net/wlan.ko': No such file or directory21:25
HADES2FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/net/ath_pci.ko': No such file or directory21:25
harjotjust a sec let me assess21:25
HADES2hou can i set pass for root ?21:26
harjottry sudo make clean21:26
HADES2ok21:26
harjotsudo amke21:26
harjotsudo make21:26
harjotsudo make install21:26
MamarokHADES2: you do not need to, you can use sudo for all commands21:26
harjotand see whatt happpens21:26
Mamarokharjot: its make, then sudo make install21:26
HADES2read :P21:26
harjoti always do sudo make to avoid confusion21:27
HADES2hades@hades-nix:~$ make clean21:27
HADES2make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.21:27
HADES2hades@hades-nix:~$ sudo make21:27
HADES2[sudo] password for hades:21:27
HADES2Sorry, try again.21:27
HADES2[sudo] password for hades:21:27
Mamarok!paste | HADES221:27
ubottuHADES2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:27
harjotno not make clean21:27
HADES2see autenticatiin falid21:27
harjotyes make clean21:27
harjotchange ur pssssword21:28
HADES2harjot ty for you help21:28
harjothave u changed it yet???21:28
HADES2i will try found a fix in ubut forums21:28
harjotoh cool21:28
HADES2i will activate root21:28
HADES2and adduser21:28
harjotok [risaky!!!}21:28
HADES2thanks for you help21:29
harjotno problem21:29
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nightdreverhow do i fix.....21:31
nightdreverGPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 7889D725DA6DEEAAGPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't 21:31
nightdreverkey is not available: NO_PUBKEY 632D16BB0C713DA6GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 28A8205077558DD0GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2ED6BB6042C24D89GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty 21:31
nightdrevercouldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 6AF0E1940624A220GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 6E871C4A881574DEGPG error: http://deb.opera.com lenny Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 033431536A423791GPG erro21:31
nightdreverRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A040830F7FAC5991Failed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages  404 Not Found [IP: 130.117.72.43 80]21:31
nightdreverSome index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.21:31
nightdreveroops didnt think was that big sorry21:31
Mamarok!paste | nightdrever21:31
ubottunightdrever: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:31
Mamaroknightdrever: you have to install the gpgp key to be able to download packages from a PPA21:32
Mamarokgpg*21:32
nightdreverhow do i do that?21:32
Mamarokwait, I tell you21:32
nightdreverthanks21:33
Mamaroknightdrever: and you are sure you want to install all these repositories?21:33
nightdreverwhy not?21:33
Mamarokand you know how to handle those for installtion, e.g. choosing packages manually?21:33
nightdreverim a complete newbie to this all21:34
Mamaroknightdrever: it's a security warning, and if you are a newbie you should not use these PPAs21:34
nightdreverok so how do i fix these?21:34
Mamaroknightdrever: I suggest you remove those entries from the sources.list21:35
nightdreverhow do i get to my source list?21:35
nightdreverand do i just delete al the ppa ones?21:35
Mamaroknightdrever: where did you get those from then?21:35
nightdreverjaunty21:35
MamarokI don't think so, PPAs are not added automatically21:36
nightdreverhas website.......what todo after install ubuntu 9.0421:36
Mamaroknightdrever: PPA repositories are for special cases, so if you do not know how to handle those, you should really remove them, the same way you added them21:37
nightdreverhow do i get to my sources list?21:38
Mamaroknightdrever: don't you remember how you added those?21:38
nightdrevernope21:38
Mamaroknightdrever: you use Kubuntu, right?21:38
nightdreveri read it of webpage21:38
nightdreverubuntu 9.0421:38
Mamaroknightdrever: you can edit the repository list with synaptic then21:39
Mamarokthe package manager21:39
juanubuntu.esorg21:40
Mamarokjuan: do you need help?21:40
juanespanish21:42
Mamarok!es | juan21:43
ubottujuan: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:43
katodahi, does anybody have problem with flash taking whole audio device (/dev/dsp) in Kubuntu Jaunty?21:44
Mamarokkatoda: that is not Kubuntu specific, but flash :)21:44
katodaMamarok: Amarok also takes whole audio device21:44
Mamarokkatoda: do you use pulseaudio?21:45
katodaI've installed it21:45
adz21cHi, I am running kubuntu 9.04 x64. For some reason xorg seems to be consuming a rather large amount of memory (900-1300MB). Has anyone encountered similar issues? All I have run so far is kaffeine (for a DVD) and virtualbox, I had compositing enabled at one point but disabled in the hopes it would fix the issue, but it didn't.21:45
Mamarokkatoda: bad idea, KDE doesn't use it and pulseaudio hogs the devices...21:46
katodaMamarok: I've found it as a solution to no simultanous sound in jaunty21:46
katodaso I tried it21:46
ptlhuh?21:46
ptlpulseaudio works wonderfully for me21:46
ptlin KDE21:46
katodabut the fresh install (without pulseaudio) also didn't work :(21:46
ptland yes, KDE usesit21:46
Mamarokkatoda: yes, for Gnome, but not for KDE, as you can see21:46
ptlYes, for KDE, it works for me fully and completely with now flaws.21:47
Mamarokptl: that's simply not true, KDE doesn't use pulseaudio, ask the kde devs21:47
ptlAs long as it can use alsa, it uses pulseaudio21:47
katodaadz21c: please paste the result of `free`21:47
Mamarokand there is no need for it, especially not with Amarok21:47
katoda(to a pastebin)21:47
MamarokAmarok uses the xine backend and pulseaudio doesn't work well with xine21:48
katodaMamarok: I can choose Pulseaudio in Phonon settings21:48
ptlhmmm21:48
ptlI am looking at my KDE sound config21:48
ptland there's pulseaudio everywhere21:48
ptlso, yes, KDE uses pulseaudio directly.21:48
katodaptl: can you get simultanous sound (amarok & flash)?21:48
adz21ckatoda: well, currently its not, since i last sent that message i had to reboot (i wasn't monitoring memory but i think xorg took over my memory, some sort of leak), does that matter?21:48
Mamarokkatoda: yes, I know, because you installed it, and now you have problems21:48
ptlkatoda: yes21:48
ptlamarok, flash, mplayer, kaffeine and everything21:49
katodaMamarok: I had problems *before* I've installed it21:49
Mamarokptl: of course it shows up in phonon, but there is no KDE application that would need pulseaudio, period.21:49
ptlalso I can record sounds while I listen to them too21:49
* Mamarok gives up21:49
ptlMamarok: maybe they don't need byt they still use it if they use alsa.21:49
Mamarokkatoda, ptl then sort this yourself, but don't ask for my help21:49
lizcan anyone tell me what's going on when I transfer files to a usb and it takes up space but the files themselves don't appear???21:50
Mamarokptl: phonon can handle alsa without the need of pulseaudio21:50
ptlyou don't need to get angry just because you don't like pulseaudio21:50
katodaptl: could You guide me how to config pulseaudio correctly?21:50
katodaor give any manual?21:50
ptlkatoda: I just followed a wiki in ubuntu.com, let me check if I can get you the URL.21:50
Mamarokptl: it will not work with Amarok, we are sorting this out with nearly all Jaunty users since the release, pluseadio hogs the sound and does not work with xine, period.21:51
katodaadz21c: Linux generally has very aggresive RAM policy (it caches everything what's possible)21:51
* Mamarok knows what she is talking about21:51
katodaMamarok: for me it's irrelevant what I'll use, as long as it'll work ;)21:52
katoda(GNOME doesn't work for me ;))21:53
agorHey! Im trying to play Texas Hold 'Em on Facebook (made by Zynga) and when I'm in the lobby I cant see the text where the tables or my friends are listed... Im using Firefox and flashplugin-nonfree. Does anyone know how I can fix this?21:54
Mamarokkatoda: the rule is: remove pulseaudio, remove .asoundconf in your home (if there is one), remove .kde/hare/config/phonondevicesrc, restart KDE21:54
Mamarokkatoda: make sure you have the phonon-xine-backend and libxine1-ffmpeg installed and the it should work21:55
ptlamarok 2.0.2 is running now perfectly and its sound stream appears in pavucontrol21:55
ptlI am just testing what you said don't work21:55
ptlit's working21:55
Mamarokno warranty for flash though, it sometimes eats the sound in the browser on 64bit21:55
katodaMamarok: I have 32bits21:56
Mamarokptl: if you know better...21:56
* Mamarok gives up21:56
ptlkatoda: I found this stuff here, but this isn't what I used: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PulseAudio21:56
ptlI am still searching tho21:57
katodaptl: thanks in advance for your help :)21:58
ptlMamarok: check it out, http://patola.org/amaraudio.png21:58
Mamarokptl: could you make this smaller? 0.5 Mb for an image...21:59
ptlMamarok: I'll convert to a jpg. Hold on.22:00
Mamarokptl: just reduce the size, png is ok22:00
ptldone, try it now, http://patola.org/amarok.jpg22:00
katodaptl: 40422:00
ptlops22:00
ptloops22:00
ptlhttp://patola.org/amaraudio.jpg22:01
ptlsorry, my bad22:01
ptl185 kb22:01
katodaptl: where do you get such volume control app?22:01
ptlkatoda: here, I followed this, http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup22:01
ptlkatoda: it is pavucontrol, it comes with pulseaudio22:02
ptlyou can even redirect streams from apps to other apps, it's very nice22:02
Mamarokptl: that works for me too, I just don't use pulseaudio, and again, the KDE apps do not need it22:03
ptlkatoda: you can also get other setup things here, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=1249722:03
ptlthese are the two pages I followed22:03
Mamarokptl: you are just one of those lucky exceptions for whom it works well22:03
ptlMamarok: this linux.com article convinced me otherwise --22:03
ptlhttp://www.linux.com/news/hardware/drivers/8100-why-you-should-care-about-pulseaudio-and-how-to-start-doing-it22:04
Mamarokptl: yeah, and we at Amarok ar idiot, of course...22:04
ptlanyway, I chose to use it for practical reasons. Unify all sound architectures on linux, big thing.22:04
ptlno, I didn't say that, and nothing implies it22:04
katodaptl: Phonon also does it ;)22:04
ptlkatoda: phonon is yet-another-architecture that proposes it, but pulseaudio embraces all other instead of conflicting.22:05
ptlthere are just too many choices... not good.22:05
katodaptl: don't know, haven't developed any sound-using app22:05
ptlpulseaudio works with them all and works OK for an unifying solution that doesn't try to force its own way.22:05
Mamarokptl: please do not recommend the use of pulseaudio in this channel, we have to sort it out with all those it doesn't work, and believe me, I talk of experience...22:06
* Mamarok doesn't want to spend all day long sorting audio and sound problems again and again22:07
Mamarokthat really doesn't help for those who do support every day here22:07
ptlhm.22:08
ptlDon't you think you're exaggerating?22:08
Mamarokptl: it is responsible for the majority of sound problems people have in Kubuntu, so it's really not a good idea22:08
sorsethi , i feel writing in usb harddisk and flash memory since i installed kubuntu 9.04 is very low...anyone has this problem? can i solve it?22:09
Mamarokptl: not at all, I do support here and in #amarok every day22:09
katodaMamarok: maybe it'll sound strange, but the links from ptl eventually solved my problem ;)22:09
ptlOk, I won't recommend, but if someone, like katoda, asks for help on how to setup, I can't agree I shouldn't help.22:10
Mamarokkatoda: lucky you then22:10
katodaI'm also an lucky exception though ;)22:10
Mamarokptl: that's ok as long as it works, but we have made other experiences, and we do sound in #amarok all day long :)22:11
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agorHey! Im trying to play Texas Hold 'Em on Facebook (made by Zynga) and when I'm in the lobby I cant see the text where the tables or my friends are listed... Im using Firefox and flashplugin-nonfree. Does anyone know how I can fix this?22:32
carolijaagor:  did u install plugin for firefox ?22:34
agorC00LAR0w:22:35
agorwoops22:35
agorcarolija: what plugin? the flash plugin?22:35
carolijaagor: wan u can see something like that h give u a option to install a flash plugin22:36
carolijaautomaticly or manualy22:36
agorcarolija: yeah i did22:36
carolijau should close firefox and instal it manualy22:36
agorcarolija: ok, i'll try... thanks22:37
carolijaand u have close the firefox whan u did the instalation ?22:37
carolijaok, np22:37
carolijajust close it22:37
tsukasa__hi any command to install the realplayer plugins23:01
ToreadorVampireHmm, any reason why the Kubuntu people decided to include Dragon Player as the default video player in Jaunty?  It seems somewhat inferior to (for example) VLC Player23:11
ToreadorVampireI mean - I appreciate that I can replace it pretty darn easily (and shall in a couple of seconds) - but I wonder why the choice was made ...23:11
BluesKajToreadorVampire, Dragon player works well IMO ...inferior in what way ?23:13
ToreadorVampireBluesKaj> Just - missing a lot of functionality that VLC has23:14
ToreadorVampire... then again - VLC does just about anything imaginable where it comes to audio/video (except maybe library management) ...23:14
BluesKajit's just a lightweight player ...not meant to be a VLC replacement23:15
ToreadorVampire... but things like aspect-ratio changing, cropping, all sorts of stuff23:15
ToreadorVampireMmm - I guess the only reason could be "it's lightweight"23:15
BluesKajI din't see that at all23:15
BluesKajplayed some 235:1 aspects without any probs23:16
finleyhi @ all23:19
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