[00:28] <usuario> #Brasil
[00:39] <liz> hi all, is gedit the same as kate??
[00:41] <ghouly> hi all,  when i click a button like "save" in gedit or other applications there is a "plop" like sound, it is very annoying, but i can't find out how to turn it off =(   in system settings under notifications, under player settings, "no audio output" is already active. any ideas what else i could try ?
[00:41] <Kovert> !kate
[00:45] <liz> ok thx
[00:49] <leo_> hello, im using ubuntu 9.04 with my s10, may i please know how can i fix my audio, itz working b4 but just gave me hissing sounds. is there a way i can re-install my audio driver something like that.
[00:50] <DaSkreech> !sound
[00:51] <chaos2fuu> !graphic
[00:51] <leo_> k menu? i'm using ubuntu (gnome)
[00:53] <Admiral_Chicago> leo_: look in system -> preferences -> sound
[00:55] <leo_> admiral, yah got it. i try to test the sound but it just gave me hissing sounds.
[01:00] <thecan2> Hi there. Anybody got kontact working with multiple calendars? I can't work out how to do this actually
[01:02] <DaSkreech> I did
[01:03] <DaSkreech> but then my computer crashed :(
[01:03] <DaSkreech> (Unrelated)
[01:04] <DaSkreech> Not like I sat donw and explained multiple calendars to Kontact and it turned and tried to explain it to the rest of KDE and it's head exploded
[01:21] <W4gn3r> Does anyone know how can I populate a QTreeWidget with a XML file?
[01:22] <DaSkreech> #qt ?
[01:25] <W4gn3r> oh
[01:25] <W4gn3r> sorry
[01:25] <W4gn3r> =)
[01:37] <liz> can anyone help??  when I try to boot into kubuntu hardy I get a booting msg stating to 'check root= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules, devices: cat' What is wrong???
[01:38] <xjjk> liz: did you edit /etc/grub/menu.lst recently...
[01:38] <xjjk> liz: can you post the contents of that file somewhere?
[01:39] <liz> I haven't edited anything and the problem is on my desktop and I'm on my laptop :(
[01:39] <xjjk> liz: sorry, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:40] <xjjk> liz: from what you posted, the "kernel" lines in your grub config appear to be wrong
[01:40] <xjjk> liz: need to post the file to be sure
[01:41] <liz> I wish I could, I can't even type anything on the black screen w/the message
[01:41] <xjjk> liz: why not?
[01:41] <xjjk> liz: use a LiveCD to boot the system
[01:41] <xjjk> you can mount filesystems from there and upload the files
[01:42] <liz> it's frozen there
[01:42] <xjjk> hrm, it should let you edit things, since it's complaining that the boot parameters are invalid
[01:42] <nejode> liz: boot your desktop, when you get to the grub menu press "e", go to the kernel line and press "e" again...
[01:43] <nejode> ...and write down what it says there
[01:43] <liz> does it have to be the same kubuntu hardy cd? I don't think I have that one
[01:43] <liz> k I shall try that
[01:43] <xjjk> liz: no... though what nejode just mentioned will be faster than going the LiveCD route
[01:44] <DaSkreech> Do you have a choice of kernels on bootup?
[01:44] <liz> k... I do have a choice of kernels
[01:45] <liz> on the boot screen right now, what should I do?
[01:45] <nejode> liz,  highlight the first kernel
[01:45] <nejode> ...and press "e"
[01:46] <nejode> e for edit
[01:46] <liz> k done
[01:46] <nejode> now highligt the kernel line and press e again
[01:46] <nejode> *highlight
[01:47] <liz> <4a-4a8c-a463-c9c13ab1e5ad ro quiet splash... thats what I get
[01:48] <xjjk> use your arrow keys to go to the end of th eline
[01:50] <DaSkreech>  think that's probably done by now
[01:50] <liz> the cursor is at the end of splash
[01:50] <nejode> liz: nothing wrong there ...
[01:50] <xjjk> yeah...
[01:51] <xjjk> nejode: hrm, actually, there's also a "root" grub parameter for each stanza
[01:51] <liz> :( well something is
[01:51] <xjjk> can you see/modify that in grub interactively
[01:52] <xjjk> re-reading the error liz posted that may also be at fault
[01:53] <nejode> liz: do you have another kernel?
[01:53] <liz> sure it lists previous kernels on boot
[01:53] <xjjk> do any of those work?
[01:53] <liz> don't know lol, guess I have to check
[01:54] <nejode> liz: try the next one
[01:54] <liz> that's a no, same thing happened
[01:55] <liz> total black screen
[01:55] <xtra> hi all
[01:55] <xjjk> er, with the same error printed?
[01:55] <nejode> ...then it's not the menu.lst
[01:55] <xtra> i can't connect vista of my brother and my kubuntu
[01:56] <xjjk> nejode: feel like you can't conclude that without seeing menu.lst in full
[01:56] <xjjk> liz: any other errors?
[01:56] <xtra> but ping is ok between both
[01:56] <liz> I get no errors, it's just black now
[01:56] <xjjk> xtra: what/how are you trying to connect
[01:56] <Hydrant> does anyone have a wacom tablet?  I bought one for the first time today, and I'm looking at how to adjust it under 9.04
[01:56] <xjjk> liz: OK, yeh, this may not be a bad menu.lst either... this did work at some point, right?
[01:56] <xtra> i want to share printer and folders
[01:56] <xjjk> Hydrant: yes, what did you want to adjust
[01:57] <xjjk> xtra: that tends to be a headache... SMB is a #%#@%
[01:57] <liz> xjjk: it worked great for a couple months, this just happened yesterday
[01:58] <xjjk> liz: try the LiveCD... and let's get that file...
[01:58] <xtra> ok, then howt to do
[01:58] <xtra> how
[01:58] <xjjk> xtra: if you're commited to using Windows, SMB is the best bet
[01:58] <liz> yep I'll be right back then
[01:58] <xjjk> I personally gave up and use SSH/SFTP, and all the Internet drive services
[01:58] <Hydrant> xjjk: it's my first wacom ever, I want to draw some diagrams with it during online meetings or in gimp/inkscape.... I got a smaller tablet, and currently the surface is mapped to the screen area (huge, I have two screens).... ideally I'd like the area of the tablet to correspond to a smaller area on the screen...
[01:59] <xjjk> dropbox works with both Vista and Linux
[01:59] <xjjk> Hydrant: you want it to map to a smaller area of the screen, or just 1 screen at a time?
[01:59] <Hydrant> hrrm.. I'm not sure... I'm using twinview, so I think I only have one screen according to xorg... I think just a smaller area of the screen if I can
[02:00] <Hydrant> I'm not sure what I can do with a wacom and linux
[02:00] <DaSkreech> !wacom
[02:00] <xjjk> Hydrant: a lot actually
[02:00] <DaSkreech> liar
[02:00] <xjjk> the driver is very configurable
[02:00] <xjjk> Hydrant: short answer, you can do what you want, though I'm not sure on how
[02:01] <Hydrant> okay.. I'm a total n00b with wacom, guru at linux though
[02:01] <xjjk> Hydrant: for GIMP, there are two modes of operation, "screen" and "window"
[02:01] <xp-killer> !cookie
[02:01] <xjjk> "window" is what you're describing, the tablet mapped to the GIMP canvas area
[02:01] <Hydrant> yah, I wasn't sure how that works if it's set as an input device
[02:01] <DaSkreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[02:01] <xp-killer> yea yea i know im special :)
[02:02] <xjjk> Hydrant: er, what do you mean if it's set as an input device? input device for X?
[02:02] <Hydrant> yah, it is by default I think isn't it?
[02:02] <xp-killer> can anyone help me?i install flaspluging but konqueror still wont read redtube videos
[02:02] <xjjk> Hydrant: er, yes
[02:02] <Hydrant> I mean it works with the screen already after I plugged it in....lemme try gimp and see what the settings do
[02:02] <xjjk> Hydrant: I'm not sure... I've never used the tablet like that
[02:03] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: go to the plugins section of Konqueror and make sure that it's there. If not click scan plugins
[02:03] <Hydrant> xjjk: how have you used your tablet ?
[02:03] <xjjk> Hydrant: yah, play with it..
[02:03] <juan> espanish
[02:03] <juan> hola
[02:03] <DaSkreech> !es
[02:03] <xjjk> Hydrant: honestly, I bought the thing 3 wks ago, set it up the way I want it, but haven't played with it
[02:03] <Hydrant> ah
[02:03] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: its there
[02:03] <xjjk> Hydrant: mostly for drawing.. I'm wanting to get into airbrushing/matte painting
[02:03] <DaSkreech> Does flash work anywhere else?
[02:03] <xjjk> Hydrant: I have Twinview as well; the way I have it setup is that the tablet is mapped to one monitor at a time
[02:04] <xjjk> if I move the tablet pen to the side of the tablet, it switches to the other monitor
[02:04] <Hydrant> xjjk: ah, so perhaps you could help me then... I want to use it for drawing as well, just stick figures and software diagrams though :-)
[02:04] <xjjk> Hydrant: the Linux Wacom driver lets you do a lot of stuff
[02:04] <Hydrant> cool
[02:04] <Hydrant> with 9.04 it looks like the config is out of xorg though
[02:04] <xjjk> yes
[02:04] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: yea it works on other websites
[02:04] <xjjk> it's done through HAL fdi files
[02:05] <Hydrant> I tried the xsetwacom and it finds no devices... apparently it's due to hotplugging
[02:05] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: befor it use to work on redtube now nothing
[02:05] <xjjk> Hydrant: yah, it doesn't show up for me there either
[02:05] <xjjk> Hydrant: I should write a tutorial for setting my tablet up...
[02:05] <juan> hola
[02:05] <Hydrant> yah, that would help
[02:05] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: try the flash from adobe's site then they probably updated the version of flash beyond what ships with Ubuntu
[02:05] <Hydrant> I have the bamboo fun, the small one
[02:05] <xjjk> Hydrant: it's really easy, but there is a lot of outdated info
[02:05] <Hydrant> xjjk: I totally encourage you to write a tutorial
[02:05] <juan> espanish
[02:05] <DaSkreech> Hopefully not beyond what ships for linux overall
[02:05] <Hydrant> yah... lots of wasted hours sifting :-)
[02:05] <DaSkreech> !es | juan
[02:06] <Hydrant> xjjk: what program do you use for drawing? gimp?  Could you give me your fdi file ?
[02:06] <xjjk> Hydrant: http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/inputdev
[02:06] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: so i have to get it from the site?but will it work since its normaly a windows version?will it work with wine?
[02:06] <xjjk> Hydrant: that's the man page for the driver
[02:06] <xjjk> and the options available
[02:06] <xjjk> to set any of those, you need to use an FDI file...
[02:06] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: No Get the linux one
[02:07] <DaSkreech> They have a linux download on the site. Should be a newer version than the one Kubuntu ships with
[02:07] <Hydrant> xjjk: oh... so the fdi file overrides the Xorg configs ?
[02:07] <xjjk> Hydrant: no, the Xorg configs are not used anymore
[02:07] <xjjk> Hydrant: http://wiki.samat.org/DotFiles/X11 is my FDI file
[02:07]  * xjjk has been trying to post his configs on the Internet lately
[02:08] <xjjk> Hydrant: for the driver options, you only need to set them up for the "stylus" device
[02:08] <liz> Ok, into liveCD, what do I do to get the info needed???
[02:08] <xjjk> liz: get a root terminal
[02:08] <xjjk> liz: er, were you using the Ubuntu or Kubuntu LiveCD?
[02:09] <Hydrant> xjjk: what about the buttons and the scroll wheel thing at the top?
[02:09] <xjjk> Hydrant: I've yet to set those up actually...
[02:09] <liz> kubuntu hardy
[02:09] <xjjk> liz: OK
[02:09] <xjjk> liz: open a root terminal
[02:09] <liz> done
[02:09] <xjjk> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[02:09] <Hydrant> xjjk: okay, lemme try your fdi file
[02:09] <xjjk> er, pastebin that
[02:10] <xjjk> liz: pastebin that
[02:10] <DaSkreech> xjjk: sudo in a root terminal ?
[02:10] <xjjk> DaSkreech: doh, sorry
[02:10] <xjjk> not paying attention
[02:10] <xjjk> DaSkreech: I never open a root terminal so I mentally prefix root commands with sudo always
[02:10] <Hydrant> xjjk: how do I reload the hal policies ?
[02:11] <liz> xjjk: sorry but how do I pastebin it?
[02:11] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: ok i download the deb file i install it,scan for new pluging but it still doesnt want to read the videos
[02:11] <xjjk> Hydrant: I'm not sure... I think I just restarted hal (sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart)
[02:11] <xjjk> Hydrant: I don't remember, but I actually think it was automatic
[02:12] <xjjk> Hydrant: just had to write the file, unplug/replug the device again
[02:12] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: do i have to put the pat myself to tell konqueror where the pluging is?
[02:12] <xjjk> liz: can you open a working web browser on your desktop?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: No
[02:12] <xjjk> with the LiveCD running
[02:12] <Hydrant> xjjk: ahh, much more comfortable now
[02:12] <DaSkreech> !paste | liz
[02:13] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: so can u try it and if u get tru tell me how
[02:13] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: so can u try it and if u get tru tell me how 8.10
[02:14] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: The installer should drop it to .mozilla/plugins which is where konqueror looks
[02:14] <xjjk> Hydrant: actually, considering how much work you did... I'm not sure what there is to write a tutorial about
[02:14] <xjjk> it's mostly writing an article about how you don't need to do this or that anymore
[02:14] <liz> trying to get connection
[02:14] <xjjk> everything's automatic
[02:14] <Hydrant> xjjk: well, hal is a bit ahead of me... I didn't know hal could override xorg settings... I'm used to writing xorg settings by hand
[02:15] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: yea but nothing
[02:15] <xjjk> liz: OK, work on getting the connection... I'm going to brb, eating a sandwich
[02:15] <xjjk> Hydrant: it's ahead of everyone... xorg settings aren't used anymore actually with X.org 1.6
[02:15] <Hydrant> xjjk: still the buttons... but they might just have to be mapped or something
[02:15] <xjjk> you need to configure stuff with HAL now
[02:15] <liz> no prob
[02:15] <xjjk> it's very new
[02:15] <compusec> fuck
[02:15] <compusec> im new in this shit
[02:15] <DaSkreech> !ohmy | compusec
[02:16] <Hydrant> xjjk: I remember the days of Linux where the word "USB" made you cringe with fear :-)  Makes me feel so old :-)
[02:16] <compusec> fuck uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[02:16] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: i'll just use firefox then
[02:17] <xjjk> Hydrant: yeh... I remember compiling all my kernels to get any kind of new hardware feature
[02:17] <DaSkreech> Pici: let him respond to the warning at least
[02:17] <xjjk> Linux has come a really long way that all I did was buy the thing, and plug it in, and it works
[02:17] <xjjk> it's easier than Windows
[02:17] <xjjk> no drivers to install
[02:17] <Hydrant> xjjk: check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom.fdi
[02:18] <Hydrant> xjjk: I agree... I haven't used Windows XP ever... I did for a bit, and it took me 2 hours to install a webcam... had to resort to blogs and mysticism to get it to work too
[02:18] <DaSkreech> xjjk: try WIndows 7 it's really good with drivers
[02:18] <xjjk> Hydrant: yah, that's what I based mine from
[02:18] <Hydrant> xjjk: does your eraser work ?
[02:18] <xjjk> Hydrant: eraser is configured in the app
[02:18] <Hydrant> k... lemme try out gimp now
[02:18] <xjjk> Hydrant: use the eraser to select the eraser tool
[02:18] <xjjk> then it becomes the eraser
[02:18] <xjjk> or any other tool you want
[02:18] <DaSkreech> how are you doing liz ?
[02:19] <xjjk> Hydrant: for GIMP, the stylus/eraser/mouse is a cursor
[02:19] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: is there another server other than samba thats easyer?
[02:19] <xjjk> that can have a different tool associated with it
[02:19] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: for what?
[02:19] <liz> DaSkreech: following directions :), just finished pasting it
[02:19] <Hydrant> xjjk: hrrm... I kinda hoped that I could use it like a pencil... eraser would automatically erase
[02:19] <xjjk> Hydrant: you can
[02:19] <xjjk> Hydrant: select the pencil tool
[02:19] <DaSkreech> liz: Great :) give us the URL that it generates here
[02:19] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: share linux to vista(xp) and ps3
[02:20] <DaSkreech> PS3? what are you using on the PS3? GameOS or Linux ?
[02:20] <DaSkreech> or your own operating system that you wrote? :-D
[02:20] <liz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/184683/
[02:20] <DaSkreech> !ps3
[02:20] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[02:20] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: i had one that use to show a blue icon like a planet down to the right of my screen
[02:21] <xjjk> liz: okay... so, in the root terminal, do'mount /dev/sda3 /mnt'
[02:21] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: wait hold up. What OS are you using on PS3?
[02:21] <Hydrant> xjjk: have you tried relative mode?
[02:21] <DaSkreech> GameOS?
[02:21] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: no im not that good on linux lol
[02:21] <xjjk> Hydrant: no
[02:21] <xjjk> Hydrant: er, well, yes, in Windows, I thought it was horrible confusin
[02:21] <xjjk> confusing*
[02:21] <DaSkreech> GameOS is what the PS3 ships with by default. With the XMB
[02:21] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: i took off linux from my ps3 im on my pc now
[02:22] <liz> is the last '/mnt' together or separate
[02:22] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: Ok you said you wanted to share between all three. If you have GameOS on the PS3 then you have to use DNLA
[02:22] <xjjk> liz: separate
[02:22] <liz> ok done
[02:23] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: sorry share with vista(xp) and for my ps3 to read not shear
[02:23] <xjjk> liz: cd /mnt/boot/grub
[02:23] <xjjk> cat menu.lst
[02:23] <xjjk> pastebin that
[02:23] <xjjk> liz: instead of cat, I guess try kate menu.lst for a GUI editor...
[02:23] <DaSkreech> Ok What kind of files do you want to share with Vista ?
[02:24] <DaSkreech> alt + F2 ->kate /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:24] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: like windows media player something like that but samba i cant get it to work so im looking for something else
[02:24] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: Look at the ps3media server
[02:24] <DaSkreech> Should work for all three
[02:24] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: all files but mostly video
[02:25] <liz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/184686/
[02:25] <megatron> eu
[02:25] <megatron> Tenho muito que aprender
[02:25] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: can vista take files from what they see in ps3media server?
[02:25] <DaSkreech> http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver
[02:25] <DaSkreech> Yes
[02:26] <DaSkreech> Its a DNLA server which WMP respects
[02:26] <DaSkreech> WMP is actually a DNLA server as well
[02:26] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: oh yea i forgot i download it this moring but don,t know how to install tgz file
[02:26] <DaSkreech> Can you open a tgz file ?
[02:26] <xp-killer> yea
[02:27] <xp-killer> i extrac it all ready
[02:27] <DaSkreech> is there a README in there ?
[02:27] <xp-killer> yea read it didnt understand
[02:27] <DaSkreech> is there an INSTALL ?
[02:27] <nejode> liz: wow, you got 5 kernels!
[02:27] <DaSkreech> I had like 12 at one point
[02:28] <liz> nejode: every update gets listed there
[02:28] <liz> don't know how to take them out
[02:28] <ign0ramus> liz, uninstall any kernels you don't use and 'sudo update-grub' should do it
[02:29] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: when they say run the .sh file they mean double clic on it?cause it opens with a text by me
[02:29] <xp-killer> with kate
[02:29] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, "sudo sh filename.sh"
[02:29] <liz> ign0ramus: how do you uninstall a kernel? adept??
[02:29] <ign0ramus> liz, that's one way :)
[02:30] <ign0ramus> liz, search for "linux-image"
[02:30] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: erm no open a terminal and run the file in the terminal
[02:30] <DaSkreech> ign0ramus: do NOT run scripts with a sudo
[02:30] <ign0ramus> DaSkreech, point taken
[02:31] <xjjk> liz: this sucks... there doesn't appear to be anything wrong here
[02:32] <ign0ramus> xjjk, what's the problem supposed to be?
[02:32] <DaSkreech> xjjk: ok I'm paying attention what's the problem ?
[02:32] <xjjk> ign0ramus: DaSkreech : liz is getting an error booting
[02:32] <xjjk> let me get it from my scrollback
[02:32] <DaSkreech> what error?
[02:32] <liz> :( that does suck
[02:32] <ign0ramus> xjjk, it should have a number
[02:32] <DaSkreech> ign0ramus: Depends on where in the boot
[02:32] <ign0ramus> xjjk, ... if its a grub error
 can anyone help??  when I try to boot into kubuntu hardy I get a booting msg stating to 'check root= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules, devices: cat' What is wrong???
[02:32] <DaSkreech> Grub errors have a number kernel erros won't
[02:33] <xjjk> ign0ramus: I guess it's not a grub error
[02:33] <DaSkreech> intiramfs will probably just be slient
[02:33] <ign0ramus> xjjk, definitely not
[02:33] <xjjk> liz: actually, reading that again... is the error message truncated?
[02:33] <xjjk> was there something else on the screen, before this
[02:33] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: I DID sudo sh PMS.sh and it said sh:cant open PMS.sh
[02:33] <pearl> Hi
[02:33] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: type pwd
[02:34] <DaSkreech> !hi | pearl
[02:34] <pearl> Im new
[02:34] <pearl> to Linux
[02:34] <chad> me too
[02:34] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: type it were?
[02:34] <xjjk> xp-killer: er, that should be sh ./PMS.sh
[02:34] <liz> it said that the kernel was loading and that it might take a while...
[02:34] <xjjk> notice the "./"
[02:34] <xjjk> liz: your deskop did, or the LiveCD?
[02:35] <DaSkreech> xjjk: Don't need ./ if you are using sh
[02:35] <liz> desktop
[02:35] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: in the terminal
[02:35] <xp-killer> hey pearl welcome to the world of headakes thats what linux does offer u lol
[02:35] <chad> scim and xim configuration who knows?
[02:35] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: just sh ./PMS.sh?
[02:35] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: notype pwd and tell me what it says
[02:35] <xjjk> DaSkreech: neat trick, didn't know that
[02:36] <DaSkreech> you need the ./ if you are not using sh
[02:36] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: /home/xp-killer
[02:36] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: Ok Where did you extract the tgz to ?
[02:36] <ign0ramus> liz, can you boot into any of your kernels?
[02:36] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: on the desktop inside a folder
[02:37] <DaSkreech> cd type cd De<tab>
[02:37] <liz> ign0ramus: no, they give me a black screen
[02:37] <DaSkreech> It should autocomplete to Desktop
[02:37] <DaSkreech> then press tab twice to get the listing of directories on your desktop
[02:38] <DaSkreech> type the name of the one that you extracted it to
[02:38] <DaSkreech> probably pms
[02:39] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: ok i have xp-killer@linux:~/Desktop/pms-linux-1.10.5$
[02:39] <liz> is there a way to reinstall kubuntu hardy while saving some files from the desktop??
[02:39] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: sh PMS.sh
[02:39] <xjjk> liz: yes, you can do that now easily
[02:39] <DaSkreech> or sh P<tab>
[02:39] <xp-killer> liz yea get a usb key and save the files
[02:40] <xjjk> liz: you can backup your entire home directory, so that all your settings/etc are kept
[02:40] <liz> how can I get to the files??
[02:40] <xjjk> liz: in the root terminal, goto /mnt/home
[02:40] <xjjk> you'll see the home directories for all your users
[02:41] <DaSkreech> liz: This is a laptop?
[02:41] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: it says not found ...thats weird
[02:41] <Jogador> Preciso de ajuda em Linux
[02:41] <xjjk> if your user is "liz", it'll be in liz/Desktop
[02:42] <DaSkreech> !es
[02:42] <liz> no the problem is on my desktop
[02:42] <DaSkreech> liz: can you type mount and paste bin the output?
[02:43]  * genii makes more coffee for DaSkreech
[02:43] <nejode> Jogador is talking in portuguese..not spanish
[02:43] <xjjk> DaSkreech: liz posted his partition table earlier
[02:43] <genii> !pt
[02:43] <DaSkreech> assuming that liz is him
[02:43] <genii> nejode: Thanks for the distinction
[02:43] <liz> what? I'm a she thx :P
[02:43] <DaSkreech> Ok sorry I missed that one
[02:43] <DaSkreech> which proves that assumption wrong :)
[02:43] <liz> I did /mnt/home and nothing happened
[02:43] <Jogador> como instalar programa no Linux?
[02:44] <DaSkreech> xjjk: Which /dev is the boot partition on?
[02:44] <liz> do I have to start a new shell?
[02:44] <xjjk> liz: er, sorry, cd /mnt/home
[02:44] <xjjk> liz: no
[02:44] <genii> !pt  | Jogador
[02:44] <DaSkreech> xjjk: I think the UUID might be messed up What's the device she's booting from?
[02:44] <xjjk> DaSkreech: hrm, that's possible, but I'm not sure that would have happened
[02:45] <DaSkreech> can't kill to try
[02:45] <xjjk> liz: we can look at that next... let's get all your stuff backed up first
[02:45] <xjjk> always do backups =/
[02:45] <DaSkreech> \o/ backups
[02:45] <liz> well it isn't giving me anything... "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$" isn't even on the left side of the terminal
[02:45] <xjjk> liz: really? what is?
[02:46] <liz> nothing :-/
[02:46] <xjjk> liz: open another terminal...
[02:47] <liz> ok that did it
[02:47] <Hydrant> xjjk: okay, tablet works well
[02:47] <xjjk> Hydrant: awesome
[02:47] <DaSkreech> JontheEchidna: Ping
[02:48] <xjjk> liz: able to get to your files?
[02:48] <xp-killer> !tgz
[02:48] <DaSkreech> does hardy use /dev/hda or does it use /dev/sda ?
[02:48] <liz> I see the user names
[02:48] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: Ah right sorry. What does ls say ?
[02:48] <genii> DaSkreech: sdX
[02:49] <DaSkreech> genii: The boot menu is showing /dev/hd
[02:49] <xjjk> liz: you can backup all your settings, documents, etc by just backing up your user's directory
[02:49] <DaSkreech> genii: I know you don't care I'm just saying is all
[02:49] <DaSkreech> well not all your settings
[02:49] <DaSkreech>  but a major basket ful
[02:49] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: not found
[02:50] <genii> DaSkreech: If custom kernel from vanilla, will be hdX if stock kernel after 2.6.19 then sdX
[02:50] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: What?
[02:50] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: exec: 48: java: not found
[02:50] <DaSkreech> you typed ls and it said not found ?
[02:50] <xp-killer> ls???
[02:50] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: Which means you didn't install java I guess
[02:50] <xp-killer> where im i sopose to type that?
[02:50] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: ok wait pause. Did you install Java ?
[02:50] <liz> how can I backup files using the terminal?  never used the terminal this way
[02:50] <xp-killer> when u install linux java doesnt come install?
[02:51] <DaSkreech> nope Sun doesn't allow it
[02:51] <liz> no xp-killer
[02:51] <xp-killer> so how is linux working without java?
[02:51] <DaSkreech> Easy install in any case
[02:51] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: Linux is older than Java soooo quite well
[02:52] <DaSkreech> !search jre
[02:52] <DaSkreech> !find jre
[02:52] <xp-killer> mm i have to read up more on java and what it's for mostly
[02:52] <DaSkreech> cute
[02:52] <xjjk> xp-killer: that's an interesting question you could probably get a lot of debate about
[02:52] <DaSkreech> !find sun
[02:53] <DaSkreech> !find java6
[02:53] <DaSkreech> bah
[02:53] <DaSkreech> Sometimes it helps to not be lazy
[02:53] <xjjk> DaSkreech, xp-killer it's sun-java6-jre
[02:53] <DaSkreech> I knew it was some variation of that :)
[02:53] <xjjk> openjdk will probably work too
[02:53] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: install that package
[02:54] <DaSkreech> it will ask you to read and accept an EULA
[02:54] <xp-killer> ok instaling
[02:55] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: anything else i have to install befor i got back to the sh problem?
[02:55] <liz> Is there a way to open the files I already have on the liveCD?
[02:56] <xjjk> liz: er, what do you mean
[02:57] <liz> to open the folder 'documents' from the listed users onto the liveCD
[02:57] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: !cookie
[02:57] <xp-killer> !cookie
[02:57] <xjjk> liz: you want to use Dolphin to open it, you mean?
[02:57] <liz> I don't know how I would copy it onto my usb
[02:57] <xjjk> liz: right, OK...
[02:57] <liz> can dolphin be used?
[02:57] <xjjk> liz: yes, easily
[02:57] <xjjk> start dolphin
[02:58] <liz> ok
[02:58] <xjjk> liz: there's a toolbar that shows where you are... when you start default it's usually set to "Home"
[02:58] <xjjk> double click on that, and it becomes editable
[02:58] <xjjk> put /mnt/home/ there
[02:58] <xp-killer> xjjk: what the maximum speed they have in the us net conection?
[02:58] <xjjk> and hit enter
[02:58] <xjjk> xp-killer: er? say again?
[02:59] <xp-killer> internet speed in the us the maxiimum u guys have
[02:59] <xjjk> xp-killer: it varies...
[02:59] <liz> xjjk: thx very much!
[02:59] <xjjk> xp-killer: what did you actually want to know
[02:59] <xjjk> xp-killer: that's like asking what's the maximum salary in the USA
[02:59] <xp-killer> 50mega conection?
[03:00] <xjjk> I'm sure it's a lot, and it has *no* effect on anybody
[03:00] <xjjk> liz: no problem.. after cherry picking the important stuff, I'd again backup your user's folder
[03:00] <xjjk> so you can easily restore things later
[03:01] <xp-killer> down here we got max conection is 8mega but the company is ripping me off there given me a 512k conection :-(
[03:01] <xjjk> xp-killer: yeah, it varies
[03:01] <xp-killer> xjjk: what u got?
[03:02] <xjjk> xp-killer: I'm in NYC, I've 10mbit/384kbps
[03:02] <xjjk> I don't care about the downstream... the upstream is the major limiting factor
[03:02] <xjjk> 384kbps is *slow*
[03:02] <xjjk> when I want to upload photos or videos, I end up going to Starbucks
[03:03] <xjjk> there's a whole rant here about the state of broadband in the United States and how misleading advertising/unbalanced offerings like this is limiting the economy
[03:03] <xjjk> but I'm not going to go there
[03:03] <xp-killer> xjjk: upstream?dont u mean down?to download if u have a 10M and only downloading at 384k thats highly a rip off
[03:03] <xjjk> xp-killer: upstream means how quickly you can upload
[03:03] <genii> !ot
[03:04] <xjjk> xp-killer: yes, this is off-topic in here
[03:04] <xp-killer> sorry
[03:04]  * ign0ramus wonders just what kind of coffee genii drinks O_o
[03:04] <xp-killer> i just wanted to kill time for my java to finish download
[03:05] <genii> ign0ramus: Rocket fuel ;)
[03:05] <ign0ramus> genii, must be!  gnite all :)
[03:05] <xp-killer> !ot
[03:05] <xp-killer> genii: ^
[03:05] <liz> So how do I backup my usr folder?? :P it's locked I'm a noob when it comes to the complicated things of linux
[03:06] <xjjk> liz: locked?
[03:06] <xp-killer> liz: i remember when i was at that earea trying to get my files from a liive cd on my hdd
[03:07] <liz> writing mnt/home/usr gives me a locked folder
[03:07] <daskreech> Back
[03:07] <xp-killer> liz: ive could of help u but i lost my text how i rote down how to do it
[03:07] <liz> xp-killer: first time's a killer, many of my brain cells are being fried :)
[03:08] <xjjk> liz: sorry, still not following... you should be able to copy/read /mnt/home/username
[03:08] <xp-killer> lol
[03:08] <xjjk> you may not be able to write to anything there
[03:08] <xjjk> you'll get some permissions problems probably
[03:09] <xp-killer> daskreech: im still downloading java :(
[03:09] <liz> yep that's what I meant, permission issues, like the desktop
[03:09] <xjjk> liz: you wanted to write to stuff there? I'd backup everything first...
[03:10] <daskreech> ok what did I miss?
[03:10] <xp-killer> daskreech: my 8mega speed gone down to 512k speed
[03:10] <daskreech> xp-killer: big ain't it?
[03:10] <xp-killer> daskreech: i have to wait till midnight to get back my 8mega im gona sued the company
[03:10] <xp-killer> daskreech: how do i work samba?
[03:11] <daskreech> xp-killer: Ahhh one of those
[03:11] <daskreech> !samba
[03:11] <xp-killer> daskreech: i went tru that already
[03:11] <daskreech> what happened?
[03:12] <liz> no not write stuff, just opening the folder...
[03:12] <xjjk> xp-killer: I've never used it, but there's a KDE systemsettings module for samba
[03:12] <xjjk> liz: mmm, you should be able to open it...
[03:12] <xjjk> liz: if you're having problems, I guess open another terminal
[03:12] <xjjk> and do sudo dolphin /mnt/home/username
[03:12] <daskreech> whats happening with liz?
[03:12] <xjjk> that'll start dolphin as root and you'll bypass the user issues
[03:12] <daskreech> xjjk: kdesudo
[03:12] <xjjk> daskreech: liz is trying to backup her home folder while in the LiveCD environment
[03:12] <daskreech> !kdesudo
[03:13] <daskreech> to where ?
[03:13] <xp-killer> daskreech: adept crash on me when i did next for the window that pop up while installing java,how do i repair broken stuff
[03:13] <xp-killer> ?
[03:13] <xjjk> daskreech: some backup media.... her system isn't booting
[03:13] <daskreech> xjjk: Where is that media ?
[03:14] <xjjk> daskreech: no clue... why is that relevant
[03:14] <daskreech> xp-killer: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get -f install
[03:14] <daskreech> xjjk: I'll try and give a one liner to backup
[03:14] <xjjk> liz: what are you backing up to?
[03:15] <liz> to a usb I guess lol
[03:15] <xjjk> liz: were you able to access stuff using dolphin running as root
[03:16] <xp-killer> daskreech: http://pastebin.com/m4a02b7dc
[03:16] <xp-killer> liz: lol
[03:17] <xjjk> xp-killer: run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:17] <daskreech> xp-killer: sudo
[03:17] <xjjk> xp-killer: when you get an error about superuser privileges, prefix the command you were trying to run with sudo
[03:17] <xp-killer> oh i had to put sudo
[03:17] <daskreech> liz: whats the problem with backing up?
[03:17] <liz> xjjk: yes I did thanks, it did throw out a warning tho
[03:17] <xjjk> daskreech: didn't have permission to her home directory
[03:17] <xjjk> liz: what was the warning?
[03:18] <daskreech> the mounted one
[03:18] <xjjk> daskreech: yes
[03:18] <daskreech> ok
[03:18] <daskreech> When did Ubuntu start caring about security?
[03:18] <liz> error /var/tmp/kdecache-ubuntu is owned by udi 999 instead of uid 0
[03:18] <xp-killer> liz: no wonder it crash i had to scrole down and accept lol
[03:19] <daskreech> xp-killer: Welcome to EULA
[03:19] <xjjk> liz: yeh, not important
[03:19] <liz> xp-killer: accept what?
[03:19] <daskreech> yeah thats for the live cd it makes a few changes
[03:19] <xp-killer> daskreech: what is EULA?
[03:19] <xp-killer> daskreech: the agrement for java
[03:19] <daskreech> End User License Agreement
[03:20] <xp-killer> lol
[03:20] <daskreech> It's where you sign your rights away to the company
[03:20] <liz> ok
[03:20] <xp-killer> we people does say WRTS daskreech
[03:21] <daskreech> no idea what that means
[03:21] <liz> another question, will I be able to install over the existing kubuntu partition while leaving xp alone?
[03:21] <xp-killer> daskreech:lol ok back to the sh install file
[03:21] <xjjk> liz: yes
[03:22] <xjjk> liz: you need to pay attention in the installer, but it's easy
[03:22]  * daskreech still thinks it's an easy fix for liz :)
[03:22] <liz> ok good :)
[03:22] <xjjk> liz: did you want to check the UUID thing next
[03:22] <daskreech> xp-killer: go to the Desktop directory and run the sh PMS.sh again
[03:22] <liz> daskreech: easy for you geniuses :P
[03:23] <liz> xjjk: no, not unless I have to
[03:23] <xjjk> liz: hrmm! I just scrolled *way* back
[03:23] <xjjk> and found another error you posted
[03:24] <xjjk> it maybe the UUID thing... it's only a few minutes to check
[03:24] <xp-killer> daskreech: ok it open a window with a ps3 then it give me a big X saying no ps3 detected
[03:24] <daskreech> ha ha That's funny ok I don't know what that's about
[03:24] <daskreech> but it works now play with it
[03:25] <liz> xjjk: ok
[03:26] <xp-killer> daskreech: yea befor i play with it a couple a month befor they help me to creat a way i can double clic it  so i dont have to go in the terminal every time to run it
[03:26] <xjjk> liz: hold on a second...
[03:26] <liz> xjjk: I'll do whatever to help find a solution to this if possible
[03:26] <daskreech> You don't have to. Once you get it setup you can just have it start everytime the computer boots or everytime you login your choice
[03:27]  * daskreech starts singing "i'd do anything" from Oliver twist
[03:27] <xjjk> liz: in a terminal, run sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda3
[03:28] <xp-killer> liz:easy way if u got a nother pc with xp or vista just conect your linux hdd to it and save what u want
[03:28] <daskreech> It's one line so you can paste the answer here instead of pastebin
[03:29] <liz> xjjk: ok done
[03:30] <xjjk> liz: what was the output?
[03:31] <liz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/184709
[03:31] <Zoinhodeboa> Boa noite
[03:31] <liz> easier to type url than the characters outputed :P
[03:31] <daskreech> Zoinhodeboa: Hello
[03:31] <daskreech> ha ha :)
[03:31] <xjjk> liz: blah, so this isn't the problem either...
[03:32] <liz> ahhh, I have such luck, nothing is wrong when something is wrong
[03:32] <Zoinhodeboa> Good afternoon
[03:32] <daskreech> xjjk: What were you checking?
[03:32] <xjjk> liz: any other errors?
[03:32] <daskreech> Zoinhodeboa: Good afternoon
[03:32] <xjjk> daskreech: her system doesn't boot... after grub, she gets a black screen and/or some error
[03:32] <xjjk> was thinking it was a grub issue, but her grub config looks fine
[03:32] <daskreech> xjjk: Right but what did the UUID tell you?
[03:32] <liz> no more errors
[03:33] <xjjk> daskreech: the same as what's in her grub config, it's correct
[03:33] <xjjk> liz: no other errors whatsoever?
[03:33] <daskreech> Right but try and make rot=/dev/sda3 and see what it does
[03:33] <daskreech> root
[03:33] <xjjk> I guess that's one thing to try
[03:33] <xjjk> though I don't know why a UUID would stop working
[03:33] <daskreech> I think it's interesting that the grub config is mentioning /dev/hda when the system is using /dev/sda
[03:34] <xjjk> daskreech: it doesn't say hda anywhere for me...
[03:34] <xjjk> daskreech: liz's grub config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/184686/
[03:34] <xjjk> liz: earlier, someone asked you to boot into the rescue mode
[03:34] <xjjk> were there any errors there? you mentioned that it dumped you into busybox
[03:35] <xjjk> it should have printed some errors before doing that
[03:35] <liz> xjjk: never got any other errors other than black screen w/the error or warning
[03:35] <xjjk> what about rescue mode?
[03:36] <liz> xjjk: when I went into rescue mode, things came up but the screen was frozen
[03:36] <liz> couldn't type
[03:36] <xjjk> do you remember what came up?
[03:36] <liz> and characters were huge
[03:37] <liz> same warning I think
[03:37] <xjjk> remember what it was?
[03:37] <Zoinhodeboa> Sorry, I'am fromk brazilian not espeak ingles
[03:37] <liz> no
[03:37] <xjjk> liz: not sure how much patience you have to fix this... but as is you've got enough to reinstall and restore all your settings
[03:37] <xjjk> liz: do you remember if you made any changes to /etc? you may want to back that up as well
[03:38] <genii> !br | Zoinhodeboa
[03:38] <genii> Zoinhodeboa: eg: /join #ubuntu-br
[03:38] <daskreech> xjjk: Look at the explanation for the windows entries
[03:38] <liz> I made no kind of change, that's what's fustrating
[03:38] <xjjk> daskreech: those are comments
[03:39] <liz> I don't mess with kate lol
[03:39] <xjjk> liz: AFAIK this is a *really* freak occurence
[03:39] <xjjk> the boot process usually doesn't break this bad
[03:39] <xjjk> without any errors
[03:39] <daskreech> xjjk: Actually for most of the entries I've seen for that error people say it breaks randomly
[03:39] <daskreech>  also it fixes itself randomly
[03:40] <xjjk> daskreech: what error
[03:40] <daskreech> Seems to be related to the UUID
[03:40] <liz> how lucky am I
[03:40] <daskreech> The one that got cut off at cat
[03:40] <xjjk> daskreech: maybe
[03:40] <xjjk> I personally don't use UUIDs
[03:40] <xjjk> so I've never seen this kind of thing
[03:41] <xjjk> liz: want to try fixing this before reinstalling?
[03:41] <daskreech> liz: :) Overall though I think it might be asier to reinstall We can help you make a /home directory
[03:42] <liz> i'm up for anything that helps
[03:42] <xjjk> liz: I'll do the editing for you to make this faster/error-proof
[03:43] <xjjk> liz: can you post your grub config again, that is, the contents of /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:43] <xjjk> open with sudo and kate
[03:45] <liz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/184715/
[03:47] <liz2> ok, same liz here
[03:47] <xjjk> liz2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/184716/
[03:47] <xjjk> use the "Download as text" link there
[03:47] <xjjk> and use this config instead of what you have
[03:47] <xjjk> liz2: er, rather
[03:47] <xjjk> backup what you have
[03:47] <xjjk> and then use this
[03:48] <liz2> back up the kate file?
[03:49] <xjjk> liz2: er, yes... it's easier to do on the command line
[03:49] <xjjk> in a terminal, sudo cp /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst.bak
[03:50] <liz2> oh I saved it to a usb, does it matter?
[03:52] <xjjk> the backup? no
[03:52] <xjjk> liz2: there probably isn't use for the backup, just keeping it in case
[03:52] <xjjk> liz2: make sure the file I edited for you looks just like the original, i.e. no line numbers!
[03:53] <liz2> ok, no numbers appeared
[03:53] <xjjk> ok
[03:53] <xjjk> save, and if you're done backing stuff up
[03:53] <xjjk> reboot
[03:55] <liz2> is this preparing for a reinstall?
[03:55] <xjjk> liz2: no, it's trying to salvage the previous install
[03:55] <xjjk> if this doesn't work, then it's probably best time-wise to reinstall
[03:56] <liz2> ok so basically reboot w/o liveCD then
[03:56] <xjjk> yes
[03:57] <liz2> ok
[04:01] <liz> *sigh* guess it's a reinstall
[04:01] <xjjk> liz: sucks, I'm sorry
[04:02] <liz> xjjk: thanks for all your effort though :)
[04:02] <liz> back to liveCD! lol
[04:05] <xjjk> liz: no problem
[04:06] <xjjk> liz: you're installing 8.04 again?
[04:07] <liz> yes I will, after doing backup of course
[04:26] <daskreech> liz: Make ~ directory!
[04:29] <liz> daskreech: what is that for?
[04:29] <daskreech> I mean Partition >_<
[04:29] <Serpardum> In kate editing .cpp code when I press tab kate inserts 2 spaces.  I want it to enter 3 spaces.  where do I change that?  going through kate settins I saw it was 8 spaces for tab, so it's specific for .cpp I think
[04:29] <daskreech> It keeps all the program files away from your data
[04:30] <daskreech> makes reinstalling much much easier in future
[04:30] <xjjk> liz: yeah, what daskreech said
[04:30] <xjjk> I've had the same /home partition (unchanged) for 2 yrs
[04:30] <Serpardum> ~ is home
[04:30] <xjjk> though I've reinstalled 3 or 4 times
[04:31] <Serpardum> n/m I found the setting, it was under indentation, not tab
[04:31] <liz> so what's the process so I can write it down :)
[04:32] <xjjk> liz: it's somewhere in the installer... there's a partition editor
[04:32] <xjjk> liz: it's the kind of thing I did once 2 yrs ago, and don't remember to do off the top of my head
[04:32] <xjjk> Linux does that to you
[04:32] <xjjk> set stuff up once and never set it again (hence, you don't remember)
[04:32] <liz> ok but I do a partition for what?
[04:33] <xjjk> liz: /home
[04:33] <Serpardum> for a directory
[04:33] <Serpardum> what xjjk said
[04:33] <daskreech> Serpardum: What's tab for then?
[04:34] <daskreech> xjjk: I know I hate it so much
[04:34] <liz> sounds complicated lol
[04:34] <xjjk> liz: it's not actually
[04:34] <daskreech> liz: How big is the linux partition now?
[04:35] <Gamarok__> bye guys
[04:35]  * daskreech waves
[04:36] <daskreech> No bye for the Girls and robots?
[04:36] <daskreech> :(
[04:36] <daskreech> liz: I guess you have a Swap as well :)
[04:37] <liz> its 50gb
[04:38] <daskreech> liz: Ok cut that in two parts with 10GB for / and 40GB for ~
[04:38] <daskreech> sorry /home
[04:38] <daskreech> and you are done :)
[04:38] <liz> so I just create a partition named /home on installation
[04:38] <daskreech> Right
[04:38] <daskreech> and make it huuuuge
[04:38] <daskreech> my / is 7GB and I've never filled it
[04:38] <daskreech> and I install a lot of rubbish
[04:38] <daskreech> well was
[04:38] <daskreech> :-(
[04:39] <daskreech> I miss my dead computer
[04:40] <liz> won't linux install in the largest partition if I divide in two?
[04:40] <xjjk> liz: you can configure that
[04:40] <xjjk> in the installer
[04:41] <liz> ok,  I'll try
[04:41] <liz> that will be a task for tomorrow
[04:41] <daskreech> liz: let us know when you are there if you get confused :)
[04:41] <daskreech> It's a 15 minute install so shouldn't take long
[04:41] <liz> will you be on  tomorrow??
[04:42] <liz> :)
[04:42] <daskreech> I can try :)
[04:42] <daskreech> First 1/2 of the day
[04:43] <liz> ohh kay, maybe I'll catch you
[04:43] <daskreech> Use a big hook
[04:43] <liz> been on for a long time now, am exhausted
[04:43] <liz> lol
[04:44] <liz> good night all, thanks for all the help
[04:45]  * daskreech hands you cocoa and a big pillow
[04:47] <xjjk> mmm... cocoa...
[04:47] <xjjk> I'm unfortunately out of milk
[04:49] <daskreech> And in steps holycow ;-)
[05:46] <snowblack> hi
[05:46]  * genii hands snowblack a coffee
[05:46] <snowblack> chanel speak spanish????
[05:47] <snowblack> plase
[05:47] <snowblack> pleas
[05:47] <snowblack> plase
[05:47] <snowblack> please
[05:47] <genii> snowblack: for spanish: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:47] <snowblack> thank's
[05:47] <genii> snowblack: You are welcome
[06:08] <Valeaustralia> hi guys
[06:08] <Valeaustralia> i have a problem vould u help me please^
[06:08] <Valeaustralia> ?
[06:11] <genii> !ask
[06:20] <andrea_> K im new to this thingy..am i doing it right
[06:34] <daskreech> andrea_: Hi
[06:37] <daskreech> andrea_: are you doing what right?
[06:42] <angelo> hola
[06:43] <daskreech> hello
[06:47] <andrea_> by god there be talkin
[06:48] <daskreech> :-)
[06:50] <angelo> cual es el irc en español?
[06:50] <p_quarles> !es | angelo
[06:51] <angelo> thanks! p_quarles
[06:53] <p_quarles> angelo: de nada
[06:54] <heru> allow
[06:54] <daskreech> Aloo
[06:57] <Drementlis> hi
[06:57] <heru> hi, are u an ubuntu user?
[06:57] <Drementlis> i want to switch to kubuntu
[06:57] <Drementlis> but i have a problem
[06:58] <heru> what problm
[06:58] <daskreech> ok
[06:58] <Drementlis> i cant connect with network manager
[06:58] <Drementlis> it detects other wifi spots so isnt a driver problem
[06:59] <daskreech> do you have a hidden essid ?
[06:59] <Drementlis> nop
[06:59] <davidjheinrich> hi all...I'm considering using Bibble 4 for editing RAW files. Does anyone know if that works in KDE 4.2? Also, what happens when I upgrade? (because Bibble is a proprietary program)?
[07:01] <xp-killer_> hi how do i know if the upnp is enable?
[07:03] <daskreech> davidjheinrich: Long as it's not tied to the kernel or static linked to libc you should ok
[07:03] <Drementlis> daskreech do you know what could be my problem?
[07:04] <heru> hi all, how can I setup my scaner hp scanjet2400 on ubuntu ? coz my xsane just detect my BT878 Prolink video but not the scaner..?
[07:04] <davidjheinrich> daskreech: how can I find that out?
[07:06] <daskreech> davidjheinrich: Quick web search for bibble and upgrade distro would probably tell you
[07:06] <daskreech> Drementlis: It can't see your Wifi? or it can see it and can't connect?
[07:06] <davidjheinrich> daskreech: google sucks, it brings up websites with "bible" in them
[07:09] <daskreech> davidjheinrich: Put bibble in quotes
[07:09] <daskreech> Or don't use google
[07:09] <daskreech> one of the two
[07:10] <davidjheinrich> I did "... bibble -bible" and that worked too
[07:11] <korupted> hey guys im having a problem with my sound when i move my mouse real fast or computer boots the sound starts skipping
[07:12] <korupted> any ideas
[07:12] <daskreech> turn off compositing ?
[07:12] <korupted> how do i do that?
[07:13] <korupted> thank you in advanced L)
[07:13] <korupted> :)
[07:14] <daskreech> well quick temporary way is alt+shift+F12
[07:14] <daskreech> That flips it on and off
[07:14] <korupted> awesome
[07:14] <korupted> let me check the sound real quick
[07:15] <korupted> yeah that works how can i turn it off for good?
[07:16] <korupted> wait nope its messing up still
[07:16] <daskreech> Does it mess up when you do something?
[07:16] <daskreech>  or just random mess ups?
[07:17] <korupted> yeah like if i move the mouse as fast as i can it messes up
[07:17] <daskreech> Here is where I invoke groucho Marx
[07:17] <korupted> like move it back and forth real fast or move apps around type on the net. all sorts of things do it.
[07:18] <daskreech> Doctor It hurts when I do this! What can I do to stop it?
[07:18] <daskreech>  Don't do that anymore
[07:18] <daskreech> Next!
[07:18] <daskreech> What soundcard?
[07:18] <Elone> hihi
[07:18] <korupted> hda nvidia
[07:18] <daskreech> >_<
[07:18] <daskreech> New drivers just came out you may want to try those
[07:19] <daskreech>  nVidia and intel have been doing strange things with the drivers in the past two updates
[07:19] <Elone> it is impossible to have tab key in console work like DOS which cycle the possibles?
[07:19] <faileas> er
[07:19] <faileas> dos never did that iirc
[07:19] <korupted> aww okay, so download the source an compile it?
[07:21] <daskreech> korupted: nvidia. No source code available
[07:21] <daskreech> korupted: just a big file with a red button you press while it does magic things you don't know about:)
[07:22] <daskreech> Elone: Why would you want that?
[07:22] <daskreech> just press tab twice
[07:22] <korupted> ha i heard that thank you daskreech
[07:41] <fatalbyte> hi guys!!
[07:41] <daskreech> And robots
[07:41] <daskreech> Robots need love too
[07:42] <fatalbyte> ok and bots too
[07:43] <fatalbyte> can some1 help me
[07:43] <fatalbyte> i'm having trouble opening ports using ufw
[07:44] <daskreech> !firewall
[07:45] <fatalbyte> i've tried using the command "sudo ufw allow ssh/tcp"
[07:46] <fatalbyte> but when i try to connect it simply says connection is not allowed
[07:46] <daskreech> Did you install ssh ?
[07:46] <daskreech> That normally helps a lot with trying to ssh
[07:46] <fatalbyte> yes i've installed it
[07:47] <daskreech> then unless you put in a firewall rule ot block it ti shouldbe allowed
[07:47] <fatalbyte> even any default telnet port doesn't work
[07:48] <daskreech> I don't think that telnet is installed either
[07:50] <daskreech> Ok start from the begining and tell us what steps you took
[08:26] <boycraft> Hi. I've installed KDE on Ubuntu 9.04 (was gnome) using this instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/config-desktop/C/other-desktops.html and I've chosen kdm instead of gdm. How to choose it back? :-)
[08:35] <godzuki> Hola
[08:36] <alakhia> boycraft: you might want to look at /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[08:37] <boycraft> alakhia, thanks! When I chose it was with GUI, how to start that GUI?
[08:38] <alakhia> i don't know what gui you are talking about  :(
[08:38] <alakhia> but i assume that gui set your default display manager and editing that file directly should do the same thing
[08:41] <daskreech> boycraft: reinstall gdm
[08:41] <daskreech> it will ask then
[08:41] <daskreech> or reinstall kdm
[08:41] <daskreech> either one
[08:43] <alakhia> might be easier to just run dpkg-reconfigure on gdm
[08:43] <alakhia> ah, nevermind ... might not be
[08:46] <boycraft> I didn't delete gdm
[08:49] <daskreech> boycraft: I know but anytime you install either of them they will ask for which one should be used
[08:49] <daskreech> sudo update-alternaives --dm ?
[08:49] <boycraft> what is this?
[08:54] <boycraft> daskreech, I've reinstalled gdm but it did not ask.
[08:57] <boycraft> alakhia, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" works. Thanks.
[08:57] <daskreech> yeah that should work technically the same as reinstalling the gdm
[08:58] <alakhia> cool
[08:58] <daskreech> update-alternatives is too complex a command
[09:04] <Think-Free> Hi ! I'm trying to connect to gtalk using a based qt4 application ( kopete, psi, ... ) they say that I have a ssl problem, kopete told me to install qca-tls but it's installed, locate gave me : /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/crypto/libqca-tls.so ( qt3 ??? ) I'm running the lpia version
[09:04] <Think-Free> any idea ?
[09:07] <alakhia> try a symlink in the qt4 dir maybe?
[09:08] <josue> how install memory stick pro duo
[09:09] <josue> how install memory stick pro duo
[09:10] <Think-Free> alakhia : no :/, not working
[09:11] <josue> thanks
[09:11] <alakhia> no idea :(
[09:11] <josue> how install sony dcr-hc28 handycam
[09:12] <josue> thanks
[09:13] <Think-Free> alakhia : that's strange, I can find any body with the same problem O_O, maybe it's due to the compilation on this architecture ( lpia
[09:14] <alakhia> what architecture?
[09:14] <Think-Free> I'm running kubuntu jaunty for atom ( they say 'lpia' )
[09:15] <josue> i'm running ubuntu jaunty. My laptop is Toshiba Satellite
[09:15] <alakhia> atom is still x86, no?
[09:16] <josue> yes
[09:16] <alakhia> so can't be that different
[09:16] <Think-Free> yes, it's compatible :) but their is some compilation option for it
[09:17] <josue> i dont know
[09:17] <anonimous_> does anybody know useful manual to make samba dc + openldap
[09:17] <Think-Free> and ubuntu provide a system recompiled for this architecture, i've gained one hour of battery :)
[09:18] <Think-Free> alakhia : well, thanks
[09:18] <alakhia> sorry! maybe try the regular compiled package and see if things are different
[09:18] <Mamarok> dan__: sorry, was afk, you should proceed with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and yes, 1 G of data is absolutely normal
[09:18] <alakhia> then at least you'll know
[09:19] <Think-Free> alakhia : yes, I'll try to recompile it ...
[09:20] <alakhia> how much total battery life on the atom?
[09:21] <faileas> depends on what you have
[09:21] <Think-Free> alakhia : with an eeepc 901 ( linux version, with ssd ) about 6 hours with wireless and lpia version
[09:21] <faileas> and atom is x86 atch, but there's certain specific things to specific varients
[09:22] <faileas> which in theory speeds stuff p
[09:22] <alakhia> wow ... that's pretty good
[09:22] <faileas> thats why there's 586 and 386 versions of packages, even in 32 bit
[09:22] <Think-Free> alakhia : yes, but no tls :)
[09:23] <Think-Free> stange : Configuring qca-tls ...
[09:23] <Think-Free> Verifying Qt 3.x Multithreaded (MT) build environment ... fail
[09:26] <Think-Free> have to work ... bye !
[09:43] <vova> Одні бусурмани
[09:44] <vova> є тута хто?
[09:47] <xp-killer_> O_O
[10:02] <zoiss> hi guys, i got one question: haven't there been any updates last week or did i crash my packetmanager?
[10:03] <dan__> kubuntu gutsy upgrade: yesterday, i've changed the /etc/apt/sources.list by global replacing gutsy by hardy. during the night i started synaptic against the new sources.list. How can i see that everything went ok (without rebooting) and further upgrading to 9.04?
[10:03] <Mamarok> dan__: if you have no error messages in synaptic, then I guess it's ok
[10:04] <Mamarok> dan__: but to be sure, you should run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade from the command line
[10:04] <Mamarok> zoiss: what version of Kubuntu?
[10:04] <zoiss> jaunty
[10:05] <Mamarok> zoiss: and you are running KDE 4.2.2, right?
[10:05] <zoiss> 4.2.3 ...I added a source
[10:05] <zoiss> like discribben on kubuntu page
[10:05] <dan__> mamarok: thanks a lot for the help on yesterday. small errors and conflicts were encountered. (for instance, celestia did some problems. i removed it, and kde could feel happy.)
[10:06] <inferno_i7_> I just tried to install from the liveCD and it failed. Im booted from the liveCD right now. Is there a way I can install kubuntu from terminal?
[10:06] <Mamarok> zoiss: well, it's absolutely possible there were no updates, to be sure you can run sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade from the command line
[10:06] <dan__> mamarok: apt-get dist upgrade will move me then to 9.04?
[10:06] <Mamarok> inferno_i7_: which version?
[10:06] <zoiss> tank you
[10:06] <zoiss> *Thank
[10:07] <Mamarok> dan__: no, not at all, it will upgrade the distribution to Hardy
[10:07] <inferno_i7_> Mamarok Jaunty
[10:07] <dan__> mamarok: thanks, i'll try it again
[10:07] <Mamarok> dan__: from hardy you can upgrade to Jaunty, but you should know that Jaunty doesn't come with KDE 3.5 anymore
[10:07] <Mamarok> inferno_i7_: can you run the live CD on your system?
[10:08] <inferno_i7_> Mamarok: I am on the system running off the live cd right now
[10:08] <Mamarok> zoiss: yaw :)
[10:08] <Mamarok> dan__: you are welcome :)
[10:08] <Mamarok> inferno_i7_: and what did fail during the isntallation?
[10:08] <Mamarok> installation*
[10:08] <inferno_i7_> Mamarok: My installs keep halting around 50% telling me to move to a cooler environment
[10:09] <inferno_i7_> I didn't grab the error... pretty st0n3d
[10:09] <Mamarok> inferno_i7_: that is a problem on your system, it's overheating
[10:09] <inferno_i7_> Mamarok: CPU temp is around 35C
[10:10] <Mamarok> inferno_i7_: you should make sure first that everything is OK with the CPU cooling
[10:10] <Mamarok> inferno_i7_: obviousley it was not when you tried to install
[10:12] <inferno_i7_> Mamarok: Mamarok the ambient temp of the case is 28C and the CPU never gets above 37C
[10:12] <Mamarok> inferno_i7_: if the CD runs, then an installation should work, unless you have some strange configuration
[10:13] <Mamarok> inferno_i7_: try again and grap the error this time, if the installation was instlaling packages it will ask you if you want to resume at some point
[10:13] <Mamarok> installing*
[10:14] <inferno_i7_> Mamarok: I had Intrepid on this system but the upgrade ruined my install. So I burned a Jaunty disk and formatted my ext3 partition. Error while installing packages. I will try to install again and write down the error
[10:15] <Mamarok> ok, you did save your /home before?
[10:15] <inferno_i7_> Mamarok: I only backed up what I needed
[10:15] <Mamarok> ok
[10:16] <inferno_i7_> Mamarok: Should I opt to format the ext3 partition again or just try to procede with the install
[10:17] <Mamarok> inferno_i7_: did you have any error messages when you formatted last time?
[10:17] <inferno_i7_> Mamarok: Negative.
[10:17] <Mamarok> if not, I don't think you will have to reformat
[10:20] <inferno_i7_> Mamarok: "[Errno 5] Input/Output error"
[10:20] <inferno_i7_> Mamarok: "often due to faulty CD/DVD"
[10:21] <Mamarok> inferno_i7_: the md5sum was ok?
[10:22] <inferno_i7_> Mamarok: no idea what you are talking about... it got to 57% "Copying Files"
[10:23] <Mamarok> inferno_i7_: when you download an ISO, there is a md5sum check to do, usually k3b checks it when bruning the iso to CD
[10:23] <Mamarok> if there was an error in md5sum, your iso is corrupt
[10:23] <Mamarok> if the md5sum is ok, then try reburning a CD, could be the media that has errors
[10:24] <inferno_i7_> I'll try burning the cd at an even lower speed. Be back later if I have issues. godspeed mamarok
[10:25] <Mamarok> ok
[10:25] <Mamarok> cu later then
[10:34] <dan__> rebooting after upgrade to hardy, wish me luck!
[10:50] <BDogg8509> Heya, is anyone able to help a n00b install graphics drivers
[11:01] <dwidmann> BDogg: probably
[11:23] <Mamarok> ok, away for food, later
[12:04] <replman> Hi! I would like to change the font of thunderbird in kubuntu. How to do that?
[12:06] <replman> I can only change the font/size of displayed messages, but i want to change the font/size of the ui
[12:08] <kaktuskatta> Hi all! I'm thinking about migrating from ubuntu to kubuntu
[12:08] <kaktuskatta> I downloaded the 9.04 image yesterday, and when I tried it, I were unable to connect to my wireless network with WPA-PSK
[12:09] <kaktuskatta> is this a known problem? I have no problem with the card in Ubuntu 8.04
[12:10] <kaktuskatta> I simply entered the password, and it replied with "connection eth1 failed"
[12:10] <kaktuskatta> dmesg didn't give me a clue
[12:10] <inferno_i7_> mamarok: you there?
[12:12] <inferno_i7_> I have burned multiple copies of the kubuntu installation disk (bitTorrent Jaunty x64) Everytime I try to install It gets to ~57% and gives me an I/O Error. I can run the system off the live disk. What are my options
[12:12] <inferno_i7_> I verified the data burned on the disk and wrote it at 3 different speeds and the slowest speed was even a different brand CDR
[12:13] <inferno_i7_> I have had Kubuntu Intrepid Ibex on this system before and am dual booting so I can verify it is not a hardware issue
[12:15] <inferno_i7_> Im really stuck and this is a powerhouse machine that i need up and running ASAP
[12:15] <kaktuskatta> inferno_i7_: Seems like most people here are sleeping
[12:16] <inferno_i7_> kaktuskatta Sleep is for n00bs
[12:16] <kaktuskatta> inferno_i7_: :)
[12:16] <nighteagle> hello
[12:17] <kaktuskatta> I eventualy found something related to my problem by googling it, the tricky part is to be spesific
[12:17] <inferno_i7_> kaktuskatta: I need to start this fluid simulation by this afternoon or I am dead meat
[12:17] <bart_> hey nighteagle
[12:18] <inferno_i7_> Is it possible to install through terminal while booted off the livecd
[12:18] <inferno_i7_> like a manual install
[12:18] <nighteagle___> tell me, is the a full-featured video ripping/converting program for kde and/or in qt?
[12:19] <Gamarok__> avidemux night eagle
[12:19] <inferno_i7_> nighteagle__ I dunno man but if you have the appleProRes codec.... it makes H264 look like a saggy sniz
[12:20] <Gamarok__> !avidemux
[12:20] <faileas> you could just get handbrake but it uses gtk
[12:21] <nighteagle___> avidemux is'nt enough correct when it transcode videos
[12:22] <kaktuskatta> Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer."
[12:23] <kaktuskatta> inferno_i7_:Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer."
[12:23] <nighteagle___> thank u for the answer, good day!
[12:23] <kaktuskatta> inferno_i7_: There's an alternative version available for download from kubuntu.org
[12:27] <bart_> hey guys
[12:27] <BDogg> heya
[12:36] <firat> slm tükçe bilen varmı
[12:37] <contrast> Greets, everyone.
[12:38] <contrast> Anyone know the dbus call to deactivate compositing in KWin?
[12:39] <firat> Hi ALL
[12:39] <firat> sorry ı dont verry engilish. :)
[12:39] <contrast> hi firat
[12:39] <contrast> firat: what's your native language?
[12:40] <firat> turkish
[12:40] <contrast> !tr
[12:40] <contrast> :)
[12:40] <firat> tehamkyou
[12:41] <contrast> you're welcome
[13:03] <dhmitri> hello
[13:04] <dhmitri> i need some help here_________
[13:04] <kaddi> !ask
[13:04] <dhmitri> ok
[13:04] <dhmitri> my ''systray''_______ it disppear
[13:05] <dhmitri> how to put it back on the painel
[13:05] <dhmitri> how to put it back on the painel* ?
[13:06] <dhmitri> !ask
[13:07] <Dragnslcr> dhmitri- the system tray is a normal plasmoid, so you can add it to a panel just like any other one
[13:07] <dhmitri> - how to set my systray applications?
[13:07] <dhmitri> ( my systray menu not appear)
[13:08] <Dragnslcr> dhmitri- I just told you
[13:09] <dhmitri> i need some portuguese help.
[13:10] <dhmitri> i can not explain better with my english
[13:32] <kaddi> !wubi
[13:35] <dan_> wubi kills resources on windows, there is no way to tell the processor how to share time between wubi and windows, i had problems to uninstall wubi. The solution was to uninstall windows. Now the laptop works as a computer mashine
[13:45] <awef> hi
[13:45] <AlienDK> Hai
[13:46] <awef> i have a little question to ask...
[13:46] <AlienDK> Hope there is someone else to answer you :)
[13:46] <AlienDK> Cause I'm really a newbie
[13:46] <AlienDK> undercover as a cookie
[13:46] <awef> hehe ok ;)
[13:47] <^peter^> a little question he said
[13:47] <Adola> Hi!  Hw can I share folders through a network with Kubuntu so that Windows can view it?
[13:47] <awef> is there something wrong with the apt servers? because i don't have any updates since two weeks
[13:47] <awef> by the way sorry for my english cause I speak french :P
[13:47] <AlienDK> You're from france
[13:47] <awef> no canada
[13:47] <AlienDK> ow
[13:48] <AlienDK> cool
[13:48] <AlienDK> thats better
[13:48] <awef> haha people from france are nice.. well those that i know
[13:49] <AlienDK> I'm running a CS: Source server
[13:49] <AlienDK> and I get alot of stupid french people comming in waves
[13:49] <AlienDK> and they woun't abide by the rules
[13:49] <awef> haha ok
[13:50] <AlienDK> I don't like french people that plays CS:S
[13:51] <bart_> come on french are good people
[13:51] <bart_> i mean i like em
[13:58] <stephane> Hello!
[13:58] <stephane> french pepol?
[13:59] <AlienDK> NO!
[13:59] <AlienDK> We are all from mars
[13:59] <AlienDK> We speak marsish
[13:59] <AlienDK> BLuh bleh blyrhb bleh bliih!
[14:03] <guillaume_> bonjour j'esaye d'installer counter strike source j'ai suivi les instruction j'ai installé steam ( steam semble bien fonctionner ) mais quand je veut lancer le jeux sa fait préparing game to launch pui rien ne se passe
[14:03] <guillaume_> quelqu'un peu m'aider ???
[14:05] <guillaume_> je ne veut pas réinstallé windows lol
[14:09] <kaddi> !fr|guillaume_
[14:10] <guillaume_> o sorry i was thinging i was writting in the ubuntu-fr sorry
[14:10] <AlienDK> ll
[14:10] <AlienDK> LOL
[14:11] <Doc_Vex> i have a problem with my logon screen :V
[14:11] <Doc_Vex> its resolution is screwed
[14:12] <guillaume_> i want to install counter strike source i have installed steam but when i want to start the game i got the spalsh screen saying preparing to launch counter but after nothing happen
[14:12] <guillaume_> anny idea ??
[14:17] <weedar> Sounds just died, how can I restart the kde4 sound-system without restarting X?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:33] <Ratapoil> I just updater tu Jaunty. The system is super sluggish now (I even get keyboard lag). Anyone has an idea why or had a similar experience?
[14:34] <Ratapoil> also, does Amarok2  support ipods well? I don't see a DEVICE tab, and I dn't have my ipod with me right now to test it
[14:41] <_dennister> hey gang: I'm having a real problem playing a wmv video I downloaded and need for a presentation...none of the players I have installed will play it; totem actually gives me the most info: doesn't have a decoder for test/html
[14:41] <_dennister> *text/html
[14:42] <ign0ramus> dennister, mplayer
[14:42] <_dennister> vlc, mplayer, kaffeine, xine, totem...none will play it and I've already looked in synaptic
[14:42] <ign0ramus> dennister, if vlc or mplayer won't play it, are you sure the file's not corrupt?
[14:43] <_dennister> how do i find out if it's corrupt?
[14:43] <ign0ramus> _dennister, link to video?
[14:43] <ign0ramus> _dennister, if you can re-download it, try that first
[14:44] <_dennister> i can't remember how I downloaded it...it's from cbc program...will get url for you
[14:44] <ign0ramus> _dennister, k
[14:44] <_dennister> the url where you can stream it is: http://www.cbc.ca/national/blog/special_feature/green_sweep/does_not_compute_1.html
[14:44] <ign0ramus> _dennister, let me take a look
[14:45] <_dennister> k
[14:50] <BluesKaj> hi dennister, have you tried dragonplayer ...it works on my setup. I DL'd the video using wget
[14:51] <anfi_> censorship
[14:51] <_dennister> i haven't tried that yet...u d'loaded the same video?
[14:51] <anfi_> moin
[14:51] <BluesKaj> the computer junk one ?
[14:51] <ign0ramus> _dennister, "vlc http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/23745/thenational/archive/mccuefreegeek-052008.wmv" should play it fine, and you can save it that way, too
[14:51] <anfi_> anybody from germany here?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> !de |  anfi_
[14:52] <anfi_> thx
[14:52] <_dennister> thx...i can right-click and play the website streaming version using totem
[14:53] <_dennister> ign0ramus: i enter that string in quotes in a terminal"
[14:54] <ign0ramus> _dennister, yes, it will play the video, and vlc has options to save/convert network stream
[14:55] <BluesKaj> dennister , wget is a great app,  just type wget in the cli and paste link location into the space after it
[14:55] <_dennister> ign0ramus: ok, is playing in vlc...that may very well be how I saved it to begin with :-)
[14:57] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, that was my first guess, too, but it downloaded so fast i didn't think it pulled the right file, but sure enough - it did :)
[14:57] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, like 2 seconds for a 4:00 .wmv ... how is that possible?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> dunno ...maybe it's linking to the net
[14:59] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, must be something like that, because filesize is only 202kb
[14:59] <ign0ramus> *kB
[15:00] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, speaking of file properties, do you know if there's a way to display file properties while hovering over (tooltip) in Desktop Folder View?
[15:01] <ign0ramus> that really annoys me... that was and is default behavior for almost every desktop out there :/
[15:01] <_dennister> trying to save during streaming using vlc didn't work too well, I'm sure I chose incorrect options, but wget-saved version is playing
[15:02] <BluesKaj> sry ign0ramus, dunno
[15:02] <ign0ramus> _dennister, check the file size of the one you wget'd... i don't think it's the actual .wmv file... more like a link to it
[15:03] <_dennister> yes, it downloaded really fast, too, 202/202
[15:04] <BluesKaj> odd, cuz I DL videos like thre cranky geeks with wget and the are 160mb
[15:04] <AlienDK> lol
[15:06] <_dennister> ign0ramus: the wget copy was 202B; old copy I was trying to play earlier is 4,109 B
[15:06] <BluesKaj> dennister, ign0ramus, i'm gonna disconnect from the net for a min and try to play that video
[15:06] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, k
[15:06] <_dennister> BluesKaj: ok
[15:08] <_dennister> ign0ramus: tried using vlc line in terminal (of old saved file) and nothing...must be corrupt, yes
[15:09] <ign0ramus> _dennister, cbc may have disabled being able to save streaming video... still looking into it
[15:11] <_dennister> yes...cbc may have done exactly that
[15:11] <BluesKaj> yup, it's justa link :(
[15:12] <_dennister> I'm trying again to transcode/save stream with vlc...brb after I go outside for cancer stick, by then it might have finished
[15:13] <BluesKaj> is there another way to stream it ?. I've never had much luck with saving streams using VLC
[15:18] <_dennister> ok, cold out there! now I'm playing back saved file with vlc :-)
[15:19] <ign0ramus> _dennister, it worked?
[15:20] <BluesKaj> dennister, could you post that URL again pls , id like to try saving that stream ?
[15:20] <darkham> hey people, from the repos i can upgrade kde components to version 4.2.4, but kde.org don't said anything.... it's an official 4.2.4 or not?
[15:20] <_dennister> sorta...first part isn't too good...lotsa pixelation errors
[15:20] <ign0ramus> _dennister, seriously... i suggested the way to do it, and i can't get it to work :/
[15:21] <_dennister> the url where you can stream it is: http://www.cbc.ca/national/blog/special_feature/green_sweep/does_not_compute_1.html
[15:21] <_dennister> and my saved version doesn't do the whole video, either...it stops before being completed, and starts again
[15:25] <lorddarkness> brasnet
[15:27] <darkham> hey people, what's the 4.2.4 packages in the launchpad repo?
[15:27] <shadeslayer> darkham: the newest version is kde 4.2.3 i believe
[15:28] <darkham> shadeslayer: i've in my repos this " deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main "
[15:28] <_dennister> ok...I'm going to try and convert    to ogg using ffmpeg one version I saved (and does work well with vlc)
[15:28] <shadeslayer> darkham: yes,that would be for 4.2.3
[15:29] <darkham> shadesand today i can upload all the packages to 4.2.4 version
[15:29] <nightdrever> could u help me with a sound issue??
[15:29] <nightdrever> i reinstalled ubuntu......and now on skype....my camera turns on but i cant hear myslf talk
[15:29] <shadeslayer> darkham: there is nothing  named 4.2.4 that i can see right now
[15:30] <darkham> do you have the repo i typed?
[15:30] <shadeslayer> darkham: yes
[15:30] <darkham> i've ALL the kde4 packages upgradable to 4.2.4 version
[15:31] <darkham> now, in synaptic
[15:32] <shadeslayer> um...who was i talking to ?
[15:33] <kaddi> shadeslayer: darkham ;)
[15:34] <shadeslayer> kaddi: short term memory loss :P
[15:34] <darkham> kdebase-bin     4:4.2.4ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1
[15:34] <shadeslayer> darkham: now..what exactly do you want?? KDE 4.2.4??
[15:34] <darkham> i want only to know if they are packages from the next official kde release or not
[15:35] <darkham> if the staff upgrade various packages , make it name with ubuntu2 , 3 , 4 ecc.
[15:35] <shadeslayer> darkham: no, i dont think so...since there has been no announcement from kde.org or kubunt.org
[15:35] <shadeslayer> *kubuntu.org
[15:36] <shadeslayer> darkham: 4.2.3 is the latese KDE
[15:36] <anonimous_> could anybody help with openldap&
[15:36] <darkham> shadeslayer: and is the version i run
[15:37] <kaddi> as far as i know 4.2.4 will get to the ppa this week, this is not an official release, as the packages in ppa are experimental, from what I know.
[15:37] <shadeslayer> ah..that could explain it :)
[15:38] <darkham> not ever, in this repo, kubuntu staff upload only the official kde packages in kubuntu version
[15:38] <darkham> is the reason because i ask
[15:39] <shadeslayer> darkham: i see only kde 4.2.3 in my repos
[15:39] <darkham> bot, ok, nothing is secure, i'll wait
[15:39] <shadeslayer> kaddi: that was fast 4.2.3 to 4.2.4
[15:42] <zzAMzz> darkham: These 4.2.4 packages should not be in this ppa, probably uploaded by accident...
[15:42] <darkham> zzAMzz: now, i'm upgrading
[15:42] <darkham> i'm too curious
[15:42] <shadeslayer> darkham: which server are you on??
[15:43] <zzAMzz> darkham: Good luck!
[15:43] <darkham> shadeslayer: unina
[15:44] <darkham> shadeslayer: usa   , unina.com
[15:44] <shadeslayer> darkham: hmm..im reloading the cache on the main server...just to check it out...ps: dont install any unsigned packages
[15:44] <_dennister> ign0ramus: BluesKaj: this current effort to transcode/save it with vlc, my tuner and v4L is taking quite a long time, although that's heartening to me because the video quality may end up being much better than my previous attempt
[15:45] <darkham> shadeslayer: i don't put in my os , amatorial repo, i've only the officials, and deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[15:45] <_dennister> so, since I'm outa cancer sticks, i'm going to the store down the street while this finishes...will let you know when I get back
[15:45] <ign0ramus> _dennister, i've just finished a working .ogg copy - plays fine in vlc - 37.3MB
[15:45] <darkham> is this the reason because i've asked
[15:45] <darkham> now, i restart kde, good bye
[15:46] <BluesKaj> dennister , do you have a "how to" URL or tutorial for saving streams with VLC ?
[15:46] <shadeslayer> darkham: that does not mean that you cannot get unsigned packages...someone could have uploaded errorneous/dangerous packages not signed bye ubuntu
[15:46] <shadeslayer> *by
[15:46] <BluesKaj> not having much luck saving them
[15:46] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, open VLC, "ctrl+r"
[15:47] <shadeslayer> is there an alternative to  ctrl+enter in konqueror??
[15:48] <BluesKaj> yeah i tried athat ign0ramus ,and it seemed to stream but I don't know where VLC put the file ...assumed it was /home/username
[15:48] <BluesKaj> but it's not there
[15:48] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, you specify where its saved
[15:49] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, save network stream hit "convert/save", set what filetype and where the output is placed.
[15:50] <darkham> yes, in the info i've "kde version 4.2.4"
[15:50] <shadeslayer> darkham: i guess you didnt read what i posted :(
[15:50] <shadeslayer> darkham: that does not mean that you cannot get unsigned packages...someone could have uploaded errorneous/dangerous packages not signed bye ubuntu
[15:51] <darkham> who can upload in kubuntu repos
[15:51] <darkham> ?
[15:51] <shadeslayer> darkham: did you get any unsigned errors??
[15:51] <darkham> i don't think everybody.
[15:51] <darkham> not
[15:52] <shadeslayer> darkham: somebody clever enough to crack their security system
[15:52] <darkham> my system isn't exploded... :)
[15:52] <shadeslayer> darkham: i have 4.2.3....
[15:53] <darkham> where i can post an image?
[15:53] <shadeslayer> darkham: you never know....try pressing the delete key and see :P
[15:54] <shadeslayer> darkham: can you add themes via the appearence manager?
[15:54] <ign0ramus> darkham, www.tinypic.com or www.imageshack.us for two
[15:55] <Guest35117> heello. question. i know only the code for chmod -R 777 and 660. are there more of them and if, where i can see it
[15:56] <shadeslayer> !imagebin > darkham
[15:56] <Mamarok> Guest35117: each of the modes can be set to read, write and execute, they add to each other
[15:57] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, I must have a different VLC version , trying to styream from network , but nowhere does it ask where to save the stream to
[15:57] <spider_> if i run a gnome application (like synaptic) as root, under kubuntu jaunty,  i can't see a good GUI. what i must install?
[15:57] <Guest35117> so i have only 3 possibilities
[15:57] <Mamarok> Guest35117: no, you have more, read = 4, write = 2, execute = 7
[15:57] <shadeslayer> spider_: try gksu or kdesu
[15:57] <Mamarok> and it's always for root - user - group
[15:57] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, well, i do have a modified PPA version, but you want to use the ctrl+r option "Convert/Save", not stream
[15:58] <Mamarok> execute = 1
[15:58] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: any idea when KDE 4.3 will solve packaging problems??
[15:58] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: I guess it's not so much KDE but Kubuntu :)
[15:59] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ah...
[15:59] <Mamarok> KDE doesn't package, the distros do
[15:59] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: bah..to bad :(
[15:59] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: just a matter of time and manpower
[15:59] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, ctrl+r just opens a dialog asking what file to play in /home/user/ , not a network stream
[15:59] <BluesKaj> so i chose the network option
[15:59] <spider_> shadeslayer: nothing change
[15:59] <petsounds> hello, i just download skype and when i want to install it i found kpackagekit error and it also happen when i installing virtualbox, peazip and opera. thank you
[15:59] <darkham> shadeslayer: how can i sava a screenshot, i can't in "gnome way" ...
[16:00] <shadeslayer> spider_: sorry?
[16:00] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, right, and put in the url, then hit convert/save, and it will give you options on the filetype to save and where to save it
[16:00] <shadeslayer> darkham: did you see imagebin?? or do you mean how to take a screenshot?
[16:01] <darkham> shadeslayer: yes , how can i take a screenshot?
[16:01] <zzAMzz> darkham: use ksnapshot
[16:01] <spider_> shadeslayer: i've tried with gksu and kdesudo, but i've got a bad GUI anyway....
[16:01] <shadeslayer> darkham: print scrn button
[16:01] <darkham> shadeslayer: it never run in my kde....
[16:01] <shadeslayer> spider_: ah... well gtk apps dont blend well with KDE
[16:01] <shadeslayer> darkham: ksnapshot then
[16:02] <darkham> shadeslayer: okù
[16:02] <darkham> shadeslayer: ok
[16:02] <ign0ramus> spider_, afaik, running gui apps as superuser or root - they don't follow set gui rules
[16:02] <spider_> ign0ramus: so there is not a way for fix it?
[16:02] <shadeslayer> ign0ramus: well they use the system theme when run with gksu and default theme when used with sudo
[16:03] <Yanick_> hi, I'm trying to use a usb device in VBox (a printer), but the device is grayed out. Kubuntu does not have a driver for it anyway, someone knows why VBox cannot access the printer? (it works with Ubuntu, but I don't have it anymore....)
[16:03] <ign0ramus> spider_, maybe Mamarok knows...
[16:03] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, don't see a where to save it target option
[16:03] <faileas> Yanick_: do other usb devices work?
[16:03] <Yanick_> faileas: my scanner works
[16:03] <AlienDK> NO U!
[16:03] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, "destination file" after you hit convert/save
[16:03] <faileas> AlienDK: thats getting old
[16:04] <faileas> ok, so we can rule out that its misconfigured ;)
[16:04] <Yanick_> faileas: the scanner and the printer are both Canon, and only the scanner works in the guest os. My guess is that Kubuntu tries to take ownership  of the device, but don't have a driver for it, so the guest cannot use it
[16:04] <Guest35117> aaaand, how can i make a good, easy back from my system?
[16:04] <Guest35117> back up i mean
[16:05] <faileas> Yanick_: thats odd. the filters generally seemed to handle it.
[16:05] <shadeslayer> !backup | Guest35117
[16:05] <faileas> granted i never tried a printer passthrough
[16:05] <Yanick_> faileas: I know. It worked with Ubuntu...
[16:06] <darkham> shadeslayer: http://imagebin.org:80/50991
[16:06] <Gamarok__> guys  whats the support channel for ubuntu france
[16:06] <Yanick_> faileas: I just used the scanner a minute ago, and trying to print the scanned document, only to find out that the device is grayed out. If I unplug the cable, the device is no longuer listed. If I plug de printer again, it is listed, but grayed. But Kubuntu tries to inistialize (always). Would that be the problem?
[16:06] <shadeslayer> !fr | Yanick_
[16:07] <shadeslayer> darkham: cool
[16:07] <Gamarok__> thanks shadeslayer
[16:07] <Yanick_> shadeslayer: why do you send me that message?
[16:07] <faileas> Yanick_: plausible
[16:08] <Guest35117> ok, this is for making cd's and HDD change, but can i make a back up on a USB stick?
[16:08] <shadeslayer> Yanick_: bah...wrong nick
[16:08] <Yanick_> faileas: where do I find the listed printers anyway? All I see is the printer queue and the print server settings
[16:08] <Gamarok__> actually he misadressed it i wanted the link to the channel yanick
[16:08] <shadeslayer> !fr > Gamarok__
[16:08] <darkham> is that, what i mean... :) i've only official repos and the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[16:09] <shadeslayer> Yanick_: your nick was just below Gamarok__
[16:09] <faileas> the cups page?
[16:09] <Yanick_> shadeslayer: I do speak french though, but won't join the fr channel :P
[16:09] <Yanick_> faileas: where is that?
[16:09] <shadeslayer> Yanick_: haha..same here...im from india but wont join ubuntu-in
[16:10] <spider_> Mamarok: hi, do you know how fix a bad gui of gtk apllications runned as root?
[16:10] <shadeslayer> darkham: its a mistake or you time travelled and got the latest KDE :D
[16:10] <Gamarok__> shadesslayer you from india thats cool man
[16:10] <shadeslayer> +either
[16:10] <Gamarok__> i am from India too
[16:10] <shadeslayer> Gamarok__: where??
[16:10] <Gamarok__> bombay
[16:11] <Gamarok__> what about you
[16:11] <shadeslayer> Gamarok__: ah.. Gurgaon here
[16:11] <Gamarok__> cool man thats good
[16:11] <shadeslayer> Gamarok__: better not go OT :)
[16:12] <Gamarok__> oh sorry man
[16:12] <faileas> Yanick_:  localhost:631 on web browser methinkgs
[16:12] <Guest35117> something else, is it possible to make a back up on a unix server? ok, i think this is not very secure..
[16:12] <darkham> shadeslayer: i HAVE the latest kde.... :)
[16:12] <shadeslayer> darkham: if you must know...the latest is KDE 4.3 beta
[16:13] <shadeslayer> darkham: have fun..gtg
[16:14] <darkham> shadeslayer: i've ever a little fear of the beta
[16:14] <darkham> shadeslayer: do you tried it?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus,, nope it's not saving just flips on then off. What settings are you ussing for video encap and format ?
[16:15] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, i tried a bunch... .ogg + something else is what gave me video and sound
[16:16] <Yanick_> faileas: doesn't seem to work...
[16:16] <Yanick_> faileas: I'll try to restart the vm
[16:16] <Yanick_> faileas: I cancelled some subscriptions (whatever that means)
[16:17] <BluesKaj> tried the raw dump , ign0ramus , got an arroe but it seems to be streaming/saving the file now
[16:17] <BluesKaj> error
[16:19] <nikki_> hi
[16:20] <kaddi_> hi :)
[16:20] <nikki_> :)
[16:20] <nikki_> you speak rus?!
[16:21] <faileas> !ru
[16:21] <nikki_> !ru
[16:22] <Mamarok> spider_: you should not run apps as root unless you need to... what application are you talking about?
[16:26] <prasanth> how can i do voice call in ubuntu
[16:28] <ign0ramus> prasanth, skype is one way
[16:29] <prasanth> wat abt google talk
[16:30] <ign0ramus> prasanth, yes, that works too
[16:30] <ign0ramus> prasanth, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-127035.html
[16:31] <ign0ramus> prasanth, that article is a little dated, but the principles still apply
[16:32] <prasanth> does it for for a wile
[16:32] <nightdrever> on ubuntu is there any program which i can do sql on?
[16:33] <harjot> plz could some1 help me with my computer
[16:33] <harjot> laptop
[16:33] <Mamarok> !ask | harjot
[16:33] <harjot> ok
[16:37] <saurabh> Help! Audio not working on Kubuntu 9.04. It worked fine when i installed Vlc player but then on the next boot, it stopped working.
[16:39] <peabody> Hey is there a way for me to adjust my screen color calibration?
[16:41] <saurabh> can anyone help me in fixing my audio problem in Kubuntu 9.04
[16:41] <Gamarok__> !sound
[16:42] <saurabh> I'll check
[16:42] <harjot> how do you lsit processes wothout the x server running from tty1????
[16:42] <kitallis_> harjot: ps?
[16:43] <harjot> wat does ps mean???
[16:44] <harjot> no not that command
[16:44] <kitallis_> ohk
[16:44] <harjot> one that lists all the processes running like ksysguard except with no gui
[16:44] <kitallis_> harjot: top?
[16:45] <kitallis_> heh
[16:45] <harjot> yes thats the one thanks
[16:47] <prasanth> can i install yahoo  messenger  and make voice calls
[16:48] <ign0ramus> prasanth, maybe through wine, but it probably wouldn't be pretty... what's wrong with Skype or Google Talk?
[16:48] <prasanth> gtalk is is not working
[16:48] <prasanth> during ins showing error messtall its
[16:49] <Gamarok__> guys how can i back up my grub
[16:49] <Gamarok__> !grub
[16:49] <prasanth> during installation its showing error
[16:50] <Gamarok__> never mind i will check the links above
[16:58] <ign0ramus> !gtalk | prasanth
[17:00] <prasanth> acroding to the list sent voip canot be done in this os
[17:03] <Mamarok> prasanth: Skype works quite well
[17:03] <Mamarok> !info skype
[17:03] <Mamarok> hm, there is a client on the skype website though
[17:04] <prasanth> but i have frnds with google acct only
[17:05] <Mamarok> prasanth: hm, ask them to use Skype then, it's available for all platforms
[17:05] <Mamarok> and there is ekiga of course
[17:16] <miglo> hi! does someone know how to put an icon into the taskbar using kde4 with the function of shutting down the pc?
[17:17] <Eruaran> miglo: add widgets
[17:19] <Eruaran> miglo: click the Plasma icon on the right end of your panel, click 'add widgets', scroll down to find 'Lock/Logout', and click the 'add widget' button...
[17:21] <miglo> Eruaran: that's it! thanks a lot!
[17:22] <Eruaran> np
[17:23] <Verdauz> Hello!
[17:26] <miglo> is there a widget with its help I could start any predefined program or script?
[17:31] <kaddi_> is it normal, that links on the desktop are readonly? o.0
[17:31] <Guest44354> ǹo
[17:32] <Guest44354> kaddi, how many users do you have ?
[17:32] <kaddi_> one
[17:32] <kaddi_> ah no..
[17:33] <Guest44354> did you copy your files from a previous install ?
[17:33] <kaddi_> I have 3, but I only use mine... just haven't figured out how to delete the others
[17:33] <kaddi_> no
[17:33] <kaddi_> ls -l also says I should be able to edit them:
[17:33] <kaddi_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 kaddi kaddi   39 2009-02-18 19:55 firefox.desktop -> /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop
[17:33] <kaddi_> ah
[17:33] <kaddi_> ok... I see the problem now XD
[17:34] <Guest44354> lol
[17:34] <kaddi_> I can't write into /usr/share
[17:34] <kaddi_> :p
[17:34] <Guest44354> right
[17:41] <noren> hi all
[17:42] <kaddi_> hi noren :)
[17:43] <Gamarok__> hi noren
[17:45]  * manux83 is back
[17:51] <petsounds> hello, how to fix kpackagekit? thank you.
[17:53] <Gamarok__> !aptfix | petsounds
[17:55] <petsounds> its error when i installing .deb packages :(
[17:57] <greg_> hello
[17:58] <Gamarok__> hello greg_
[17:58] <greg_> Just setup Quassel looks good need to review a few thing
[17:59] <greg_> I looka my right sidebar and see a ton of people, are thet logged on but not posting or what?
[18:02] <simone> ciao
[18:02] <jussi01> greg_: pretty much
[18:03] <greg_> jussi01, Thanx
[18:06] <vbgunz> anybody know whats happening with plasma? it loses almost all icons on it... no main menu, no pager, no desktop icon, no time... this happens a lot, whats happening?
[18:07] <vbgunz> the icons are still there *but* simply invisible I blieve
[18:09] <Mamarok> vbgunz: what version of KDE?
[18:09] <vbgunz> Mamarok: 4.2.2
[18:09] <vbgunz> Kubuntu 9.04
[18:09] <ldominguez> hola hola
[18:09] <Mamarok> vbgunz: hm, shouldn't happen
[18:10] <Mamarok> !es | ldominguez
[18:10] <vbgunz> I dont know at what point this happens but it feels random.
[18:10] <ldominguez> mmm...
[18:10] <ldominguez> hi
[18:10] <ldominguez> somebody to talk?
[18:10] <Mamarok> vbgunz: the first time I hear about disapearing stuff I must say, it's not a plsama crash?
[18:10] <Mamarok> ldominguez: !ot
[18:11] <Mamarok> !ot | ldominguez
[18:11] <ldominguez> ok... Im installing some apllications on the ubutu server but I think that it doestn work...
[18:12] <Mamarok> ldominguez: Ubuntu server support is in #ubuntu
[18:12] <ldominguez> I installed para que sirve esto si nadie constesta.???
[18:12] <ldominguez> left
[18:12] <Mamarok> no need to get angry...
[18:15] <Mamarok> vbgunz: just seen you found the answer :)
[18:19] <vbgunz> Mamarok: yeah, I am going over the bug report
[18:21] <sebastian> hi
[18:25] <manux83> hi
[18:36] <Vinay-Blr> helloo room
[18:36] <Vinay-Blr> i have a small issue
[18:37] <Vinay-Blr> i wanna net the network card speed to 10half mode
[18:37] <Vinay-Blr> i wanna set the network card speed to 10half mode
[18:37] <Vinay-Blr> so how to do it?
[18:38] <Vinay-Blr> ?????
[18:38] <Mamarok> so much for patience...
[18:41] <enrico_> ciao
[18:42] <Mamarok> hi
[18:43] <enrico_> sono nel canale azzurra
[18:44] <Mamarok> !it | enrico_
[18:45] <jim_p> hi people
[18:45] <jim_p> i am having a small issue here
[18:45] <jim_p> and i need help pbadly
[18:45] <p_quarles> !ask
[18:45] <jim_p> lol
[18:45] <jim_p> its my fisrt days on kde, be gentle
[18:46] <Mamarok> jim_p: he is
[18:46] <jim_p> in kde3, aka konqueror 3, if i typed "media:/" in its address bar, it took me to a "place" that i could see my drives etc
[18:47] <jim_p> like "My computer" in windows
[18:47] <Mamarok> jim_p: and?
[18:47] <jim_p> now the same address in kde4, aka konqueror 4, pops a silly error about a not supported protocol
[18:48] <jim_p> i want a "My computer" layout in konqueror!!
[18:48] <Mamarok> jim_p: because the media devices appear as mounted in the sidebar, no need to visualize them more than once :)
[18:48] <jim_p> like nautilus can do
[18:48] <jim_p> i dont use sidebars
[18:48] <Mamarok> jim_p: alos, check your menu -> computer
[18:48] <Mamarok> also*
[18:48] <Mamarok> jim_p: in dolphin there is a sidebar on the left
[18:48] <jim_p> and i need to see ALL my devices, even with no media inside them
[18:48] <jim_p> menu > computer? in konqueror?
[18:49] <Mamarok> jim_p: then configure those to be visible in Dolphin :)
[18:49] <Mamarok> the panel menu
[18:49] <jim_p> so in short
[18:49] <jim_p> no other way than sidebar?
[18:49] <Mamarok> jim_p: the default file manager is Dolphin, open it and you will see what I mean
[18:49] <jim_p> i set the default file manager to be konqueror
[18:50] <Mamarok> and do not expect KDE to beahve the same way than Gnome does and vice versa...
[18:50] <jim_p> i dont
[18:50] <jim_p> but this is not behavior
[18:50] <jim_p> its kde3, with transparencies and plasmoids
[18:50] <Mamarok> jim_p: ...
[18:50] <jim_p> but no media:/ !!!
[18:50] <Mamarok> you just said you used KDE 4...
[18:50] <jim_p> yea
[18:50] <jim_p> i am on it now
[18:51] <Mamarok> jim_p: well, then let it behave the way it is ment to :)
[18:51] <Mamarok> and default is Dolphin, Konqueror is a web browser
[18:51] <jim_p> without "My computer" icon, its as if i am trying to write with my left hand!
[18:51] <Mamarok> jim_p: open the panel menu and you have "My Computer" there...
[18:52] <jim_p> i dont want it in sidebar! i want a window listing my drives etc!
[18:52] <Mamarok> also, Dolphin shows you all you are looking for
[18:52] <Mamarok> ...
[18:52] <Mamarok> jim_p: don't shout please...
[18:53] <jim_p> lol i am not
[18:53] <jim_p> kde gives me the impression of...
[18:53] <Mamarok> well, yes you do, no need to put exclamation makrs everywhere
[18:54] <Mamarok> jim_p: if you are a bit open minded and look at what I told you, you would see...
[18:54] <jussi01> jim_p: do you need a window? or? I have pretty much what you are describing in my lancelot menu...
[18:54] <jim_p> have you seen tshirts that girls wear and state a tag like "I wish these were brains" over their chest? this is what kde has become
[18:54] <jim_p> jussi01, lancelot?!
[18:54] <jussi01> jim_p: calm dowm
[18:54] <jim_p> i am calmed
[18:54] <jussi01> !info lancelot
[18:54] <jim_p> this is what i need http://www.turbolinux.com/products/desktop/fuji/doc/quickstart_guide/images/konqueror_media.jpg
[18:55] <jussi01> meh, its in the plasmoids package
[18:55] <Mamarok> because it's a widget
[18:55] <jim_p> jussi01, can you show me a screenshot of what it does?
[18:56] <Mamarok> why don't you just open it? right click on the desktop, add widget...
[18:56] <Mamarok> so you can see by yourself
[18:56] <jim_p> i dont seem to have it installed. give me a sec
[18:57] <p_quarles> !away | Shaan7
[18:57] <Mamarok> p_quarles: ?
[18:57] <jussi01> jim_p: http://imagebin.ca/view/H-y_lNY.html
[18:57] <p_quarles> Mamarok: question marks aren't questions; what?
[18:58] <Mamarok> p_quarles: well, you ask him to remove a away message that is not there...
[18:58] <jim_p> jussi01, nice one, but still not inside a window
[18:58] <gigielfo> salve a tutti
[18:58] <p_quarles> Mamarok: use your scrollback
[18:58] <Mamarok> jim_p: dolphin?...
[18:59] <jim_p> how can i make a (keyboard) shortcut of it so as to make it open in a window?
[18:59] <jim_p> Mamarok, no its lancelot
[18:59] <davhere> whats a good anti virus? the one i have dont dont seem to be finding what has infected my browsers.ihave clamAV
[18:59] <Mamarok> jim_p: that was an answer to your question, having it in a window...
[19:00] <jim_p> davhere, you infected your linux installation with a virus?!
[19:00] <Mamarok> davhere: there are no viruses on Linux
[19:00] <jussi01> !virus | davhere
[19:00] <davhere> wonder what is making my browser act up so much
[19:01] <jim_p> jussi01, can i make lancelot show nothing else than "my computer"? then i can make a button of it and stick it on the panel
[19:01] <Mamarok> davhere: what browser and what behavior?
[19:01] <jim_p> davhere, flash :P
[19:01] <jussi01> jim_p: see that there what I showed you?
[19:02] <jim_p> jussi01, yea i saw it
[19:02] <davhere> i run 3 browsers ff,epiptany and opera
[19:02] <Mamarok> davhere: at the same time?
[19:02] <davhere> no
[19:03] <jussi01> its from a 1 button click - add lancelot, right click it, lancelot launcher settings, show categories inside applet
[19:03] <Mamarok> well, what behavior are you talking about?
[19:03] <Mamarok> davhere: ^
[19:03] <davhere> sorry i type real slow
[19:03] <jim_p> jussi01, thanks a million
[19:03] <jim_p> i will be back in some hours
[19:03] <jim_p> there is a movie on the tv now
[19:03] <jim_p> see you guys
[19:04] <jim_p> thanks
[19:04] <Mamarok> cu
[19:04] <davhere> it's like lagy. and then freezes. and every time i go to close have to force it to close
[19:05] <Mamarok> davhere: that sounds like a flash problem
[19:05] <p_quarles> davhere: that sounds like problems many have experience with flash and compositing conflicting
[19:05] <davhere> even when it running ffine i have to force close it
[19:06] <p_quarles> davhere: does the force-close requirement only happen with the browsers? never with any other applications?
[19:06] <davhere> yes only with the browsers
[19:06] <davhere> every thing else runs and closes fine
[19:07] <Mamarok> davhere: that's flash then
[19:07] <p_quarles> davhere: not a solution so much as a test: uninstall Flash and see if the problem continues
[19:07] <mrunagi> im having an issue with mounting an ntfs external drive.........it says http://pastebin.com/m2bd86285
[19:08] <xnox> Hello =D I've just installed kubuntu-desktop and I'm very happy with it. There are a few things I'd love to find out about KDE what is the best starting point in exploring KDE and learn it's cool features?
[19:08] <xnox> I've used Ubuntu/Gnome for 2 years now.
[19:08] <davhere> ok i'll do that..ty for the help
[19:08] <jussi01> xnox: if you have specific questions, just ask!
[19:09] <p_quarles> davhere: if the problem persists, that would rule out flash, so it may be fixable; if it is flash, not much to do about it
[19:09] <Mamarok> xnox: there are some tutorials on http://userbase.kde.org
[19:09] <xnox> ok, replacement for Gnome Do? like how do I access that search thingy in the K button?
[19:10] <davhere> ok
[19:10] <jussi01> xnox: alt+f2 ?
[19:11] <xnox> jussi01: thanks, yeah that's what I need. I'll try to reconfigure it to my old shortcut I've used for gnomedo
[19:11] <jussi01> xnox:  :)
[19:11] <ner0x> How do I change my screen size?
[19:12] <p_quarles> ner0x: first place to try: alt-F2 and type "display"
[19:12] <_dennister> hey gang...having a bit of trouble configuring apt-proxy, can anyone help me with backend entries?
[19:13] <ner0x> p_quarles: Is there a way to get to that manually. I'm running on virtual box.
[19:13] <giuseppe_> ciao a tutti a dopo
[19:14] <liz2> hi room, I'm having trouble copying files using the liveCD into my usb, stating that the file/path doesn't exist when it clearly does.
[19:14] <xnox> ok how do I uninstall all the gnome bits I have installed?
[19:14]  * xnox KDE rocks
[19:14] <p_quarles> ner0x: I don't think VirtualBox will interfere with that shortcut, but it's in systemsettings under "Display"
[19:15] <ner0x> p_quarles: That leads me to KRAndRTray
[19:15] <p_quarles> xnox: there's no one-stop way; if you really don't want the Gnome items to exist on the same computer, you'll have to remove them manually
[19:15] <p_quarles> ner0x: that works too
[19:16] <ner0x> p_quarles: the settings are not in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:16] <liz2> and the items I keep copying into the media keeps disappearing!
[19:16] <BluesKaj> xnox, have you removed gnome-desktop ?
[19:16] <ner0x> Where do I manually put them in kubuntu?
[19:16] <p_quarles> ner0x: nor should they be
[19:16] <p_quarles> BluesKaj: that's a meta-package; removing it doesn't do anything
[19:16] <ner0x> p_quarles: The maximum size right now is 800x600. I know it goes a lot bigger.
[19:16] <Mamarok> liz2: that usb is mounted?
[19:16] <xnox> p_quarles: ok I'll just take it one step of the time, once I find replacement I will uninstall old gnome equivalent
[19:16] <ner0x> p_quarles: Any idea where I can specify the settings?
[19:17] <jussi01> !puregnome | xnox
[19:17] <Mamarok> xnox: sudo apt-get remove gnome-*
[19:17] <jussi01> !purekde | xnox
[19:17] <p_quarles> ner0x: you may need to find a more suitable driver for the video card
[19:17] <jussi01> oops
[19:17] <liz2> Mamarok: it is, it shows up and I can open it
[19:17] <ner0x> p_quarles: It's on  mac osx. I'm not sure what type of video card they use at all.
[19:17] <Mamarok> and where do you copy that files from?
[19:18] <xnox> thanks a lot
[19:18] <BluesKaj> xnox, if you remove gnome-desktop, then run autoclean in the terminal ..it should get rid of the residuals gnome stuff
[19:19] <liz2> from sda3 partition to the usb using the live cd, or trying to
[19:19] <xh> hi! does anyone has any idea why links in googleearth do not work? using kubuntu 9.04 with Googleearth 4.3.7284.3916 (beta)
[19:19] <harjot> When i turn on my laptop it is set up to boot automatically, log in automatically and lock. I recently upgraded my xorg to xorg-intel [i use intel gm965] and upgraded a few other paackages i cant recall and now when i try to type in anything apart from in tty where it works, it dosent work. But when i terminated the lock screen, it said to me applet could not be strted. My wallpapaer had gone, all the icons were smaller than usual and the menu was
[19:19] <harjot> different
[19:19] <Mamarok> liz2: maybe a permission problem then
[19:19] <harjot> who me????
[19:20] <Mamarok> harjot: no
[19:20] <harjot> anyone could help???
[19:20] <liz2> Mamarok: I opened the partition and folders using sudo
[19:20] <Mamarok> !patience | harjot
[19:20] <katoda> does anybody know when will be kde 4.3beta1 packages released?
[19:20] <liz2> I can see all it's content just can't move them
[19:20] <harjot> just wondering if anyone has encountered this before
[19:21] <Mamarok> liz2: did you try copying in the command line or in Dolphin?
[19:21] <BluesKaj> katoda, they are out already
[19:21] <katoda> BluesKaj: yep, but only for Karmic
[19:21] <xjjk> katoda: there were several packaging problems that made many problems on jaunty... hopefully they'll be fixed by beta2
[19:21] <Mamarok> katoda: but only for experienced users, as there are dependency problems
[19:21] <xjjk> liz2: greetings again; did you get your machine working again?
[19:21] <liz2> Mamarok: from dolphin
[19:22] <Mamarok> liz2: and you don't get an error message?
[19:22] <BluesKaj> oops yeah , I'm running Karmic, katoda
[19:22] <liz2> xjjk: hello, now I'm having issues copying or moving files
[19:22] <Mamarok> liz2: updating the content with F5 doesn't change the view?
[19:22] <harjot> Does anyone know of a recovery cd for kubuntu 8.04??????
[19:22] <liz2> Mamarok: error message states files doesn't exist
[19:22] <xjjk> liz2: are you still backing up, or this is on the newly reinstalled system?
[19:22] <xjjk> harjot: the LiveCD itself can be used as a recovery CD... what other functionality do you need
[19:23] <katoda> !patience | harjot
[19:23] <liz2> xjjk: backing up
[19:23] <harjot> yeah but how [i tried copying the files but im not sure what to copy]
[19:23] <xjjk> liz2: what problems? I thought you had backed up everything last night
[19:24] <xnox> i've changed Alt-F2 to Meta-space but it's not working. Where can I find where to change shortcuts? (last time around i've opened it with Alt-F2)
[19:24] <liz2> xjjk: no I only got to back up a few documents, was going to do everything else today
[19:24] <xjjk> liz2: I see
[19:24] <xjjk> liz2: if you're using the LiveCD, again, you might have permissions problems... try running a root instance of dolphin
[19:24] <harjot> Anyone wish to help me [please dont !patience
[19:24] <harjot> me]
[19:24] <liz2> the pics are giving me problems
[19:24] <Mamarok> xnox: in the systemsettings -> keyboard&Mouse
[19:25] <xjjk> liz2: what problems?
[19:25] <xjjk> liz2: destination does not exist?
[19:25] <BluesKaj> xh , install
[19:25] <BluesKaj> Google Earth
[19:25] <BluesKaj> 5.0.11337.1968 (beta)
[19:25] <xnox> Mamarok: thanks yeah that's it!
[19:25] <jussi01> !punctuation > Mamarok
[19:25] <liz2> xjjk: I did open dolphin as root w/the terminal... when I try to move/copy the folder it states that 'files didn't exist'
[19:26] <xh> BluesKaj: installed via apt-get, if that is what you mean
[19:26] <xjjk> liz2: yeh... do you want to do this on the command line instead
[19:26] <xjjk> it's a lot more reliable than doing stuff via the GUI
[19:27] <Mamarok> xnox: yaw :)
[19:27] <katoda> does anybody have problems with iwlagn driver (it disconnects me from wireless networks)
[19:27] <MadAGu> i try to apply a new icon theme in KDE but my konqueror folder icons does not change
[19:28] <BluesKaj> xh, the beta 5 version is more stable than the previous ones
[19:28] <BluesKaj> in my experience
[19:28] <liz2> xjjk: sure I can try
[19:28] <xjjk> liz2: do you know the paths to the source and destination?
[19:28] <ForgeAus> 3rd law of computing: anything can go wro$#@&$
[19:28] <xh> BluesKaj: is it already in the repos or i need to download the binary?
[19:28] <xjjk> you can use Dolphin to tell you; double click on the location bar in dolphin
[19:28] <xjjk> it'll display the full path
[19:29] <liz2> how do I do.... cp source destination.... correct
[19:29] <xjjk> liz2: you can use cp, I'd use rsync personally
[19:29] <liz2> or I have to use sudo
[19:29] <xjjk> liz2: you should use sudo too, since you'll run into permissions problems because you're using a LiveCD
[19:29] <BluesKaj> got mine from the repos , but make sure your repos are up to date ,and enable the 3rd party software
[19:29] <liz2> rsync?
[19:30] <liz2> so sudo resync source destination?
[19:30] <xjjk> liz2: rsync -aPv /mnt/home/liz /media/usb-disk/backup-location
[19:30] <xjjk> something along those lines
[19:30] <xjjk> change paths accordingly
[19:31] <liz2> shall do
[19:32] <gambix> please i need help about blender on 9.04 kubuntu
[19:32] <gambix> the main windows show without any icons
[19:33] <gambix> any idéas ...
[19:33] <gambix> i've desabled all desktop effect
[19:33] <gambix> but nothing change
[19:34] <p-f> anything that requires 3d, be it Processing or Matlab's 3d graphs show up with a lot of black artefacts. Any ideas what might be wrong, or at least what other tests could help me narrow down the possibilities?
[19:34] <p-f> glxgears works fine
[19:35] <liz2> ok so I recieved this wierd pop up msg, that I'm running low on disk space on my home partition, would I like to run Konqueror to free some space and fix problem?
[19:36] <xjjk> liz2: low space on your home partition? that's odd..
[19:36] <liz2> and on terminal it says error
[19:36] <xjjk> how much space do you have free on the USB disk
[19:36] <xjjk> and in your home directory too, for that matter
[19:37] <liz2> 7gb
[19:37] <xjjk> you've 7 GB free on your USB disk?
[19:37] <xjjk> liz2: what's the copy command you're using
[19:37] <vit> hello
[19:37] <liz2> the rsync you gave
[19:38] <xjjk> liz2: what are the paths
[19:38] <vit> mierda
[19:38] <vit> kljl
[19:38] <vit> ljl
[19:38] <vit> hjl
[19:38] <vit> jk
[19:38] <vit> hj
[19:38] <vit> ljk
[19:38] <vit> hj
[19:38] <vit> jj
[19:38] <vit> kj
[19:39] <liz2> they are /mnt/home/guest/Desktop/Pictures and /media/disk/KUBUNTU FILES
[19:39] <xjjk> liz2: that seems right..
[19:39] <vit> buenos mal
[19:39] <xjjk> liz2: what were the errors on the command line?
[19:39] <xjjk> out of disk space?
[19:40] <liz2> xjjk: it is right, this pc sucks lol
[19:40] <BluesKaj> !es | vit
[19:40] <liz2> rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 32768 bytes [sender]: Broken pipe (32)
[19:40] <liz2> rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (416 bytes received so far) [sender]
[19:41] <xjjk> mm, broken pipe...
[19:41] <liz2> rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(454) [sender=2.6.9]
[19:42] <liz2> I knew it, this pc is broken :(
[19:42] <xjjk> liz2: it is
[19:42] <xjjk> ?
[19:42] <harjot> When i turn on my laptop it is set up to boot automatically, log in automatically and lock. I recently upgraded my xorg to xorg-intel [i use intel gm965] and upgraded a few other paackages i cant recall and now when i try to type in anything apart from in tty where it works, it dosent work. But when i terminated the lock screen, it said to me applet could not be strted. My wallpapaer had gone, all the icons were smaller than usual and the menu was
[19:42] <harjot> different
[19:42] <xjjk> harjot: what exadctly did you upgrade...
[19:43] <xjjk> can you unupgrade
[19:43] <harjot> how do you do that???
[19:43] <xjjk> what did you upgrade and where did it come from
[19:43] <harjot> i upgraded xorg [which it removed in order to install xserver-xorg-intel or someting similar]
[19:44] <xjjk> harjot: how/where did you upgrade xorg? was this an automatic update?
[19:44] <harjot> it was a recommended update by adept or whatever
[19:44] <xjjk> hrm
[19:44] <harjot> because i simply hadnt updted 4 a while
[19:45] <xjjk> harjot: which version of Kubuntu are you using
[19:45] <harjot> and it also installed other packages i cant recalll
[19:45] <harjot> 8.04 hardy heron
[19:45] <BluesKaj> harjot, you referring to the intel graphics driver ?
[19:45] <harjot> yes
[19:45] <xjjk> harjot: you're not using any 3rd-party repositories, are you?
[19:45] <harjot> i think it may have something to do , otherwise something is blocking my keyboard
[19:46] <harjot> apart from medibuntu no
[19:47] <harjot> and also to note, any buttons that are like an ok to the keyboard have turned slightly ligtht blue but you can still clikc on them
[19:47] <harjot> i.e unlock and ok for root
[19:47] <xh> BluesKaj: thank you! removed the deb version installed GoogleEarthLinux.bin; now everything works ok!
[19:47] <xjjk> what you're describing is *really* odd...
[19:48] <harjot> i know i bet no-one else or maybe a few people have encounteered this
[19:48] <BluesKaj> xh , cool :)
[19:48] <harjot> icons go wierd and it says error applet could not be started for abotu 10 times
[19:49] <harjot> ok change of description
[19:50] <xjjk> harjot: some of the symptoms you're describing are more than just X11 upgrades
[19:50] <harjot> i know
[19:50] <harjot> could i just change something
[19:50] <harjot> someone just know told me to move .kde to .kde-bak and i did so
[19:50] <xjjk> alright
[19:50] <xjjk> what happened?
[19:51] <harjot> then i restartieed and my keyboard AND MOUSE was frozen and i could get into tty and when i pressed the off buttons it played system bell
[19:51] <harjot> then i moved everything back to .kde
[19:51] <xh> 'and now for something completely different': what's the best and quickest way to figure out which app is accessing which files? strace only works with a sinlge *known* app, whereas i am looking for something like filemon on win32
[19:51] <xjjk> harjot: can you create a new user, and login with that one
[19:51] <harjot> btw
[19:52] <harjot> everything has changed and also it doesnt say aplt couldnt be started
[19:52] <xjjk> xh: check out fuser
[19:52] <harjot> minor/mmajor problem i cant create a new account without keyboard
[19:53] <harjot> xjjk: i cant withut keyboard working
[19:53] <xh> xjjk: i have it installed but never figured out how to use it..
[19:53] <harjot> unless u know of a command
[19:53] <xjjk> xh: fuser <name of file>
[19:54] <liz2> xjjk: you think if I use puppy linux I would be able to write the files into a cd?
[19:54] <xjjk> liz2: you should be able to with the Ubuntu LiveCD as well
[19:54] <xh> xjjk: but this is the problem, i don't know which process is accessing which file; i just want to see what is causing disc activity
[19:54] <xjjk> liz2: just wondering, do you think the disk is dying?
[19:55] <xjjk> harjot: mm, OK...
[19:55] <steve_> I just installed Kubuntu 9.04 for a friend and found that the default media player (Dragon Player) has terrible video quality when playing DVDs.  It looks like it does not implement a deblocking filter.  I would like to replace it with a different default (smplayer); but have not found how to do this.  How do I configure the Device Notifier to use smplayer instead of Dragon Player for DVDs?
[19:55] <xjjk> harjot: so, yeah, *don't* use autologin for this reason
[19:55] <liz2> xjjk: yes I do think so, this pc has been having issues
[19:55] <harjot> whats worng with auto login????
[19:56] <xjjk> harjot: are you able to select a different user before you're automatically logged in?
[19:56] <xjjk> liz2: mmm, if there are hardware issues a different Linux distribution probably won't help
[19:56] <BluesKaj> steve_, install libdvdcss2 , kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:56] <harjot> no there arent any but i hace to type sudo kdm because i am automatically thrown into tty
[19:56] <harjot> there is guest but with a password lol
[19:56] <xjjk> harjot: ah, OK
[19:56] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | steve_
[19:56] <xjjk> harjot: if you login on the console
[19:57] <xjjk> run sudo adduser testuser
[19:57] <xjjk> to create a new user
[19:57] <harjot> as guest???
[19:57] <liz2> xjjk: yes but since the liveCD is taking up the cd drive I cant even attempt writing the files into a blank cd
[19:57] <xjjk> liz2: oh, right...
[19:57] <harjot> o h
[19:57] <xjjk> liz2: puppy linux lets you load into RAM I'm guessing
[19:57] <liz2> I know that puppy linux can run in ram and leave the cd drive free for use
[19:57] <xjjk> so you can swap the CD out?
[19:58] <harjot> another problem
[19:58] <liz2> supposedly, yes, never knew about puppy 'til yesterday
[19:58] <steve_> BluesKaj:  I have already installed libdvdcss2 and kubuntu-restricted-extras.  I can play the DVD.  That is not the problem.  I just get better video quality with the other media players.  I just want to change the default.
[19:58] <xjjk> liz2: yah, you can do that
[19:58] <harjot> its asking for a unix passssssword i want it blank but then it says no passwd supplied
[19:58] <BluesKaj> liz2, you can write to files using the terminal on a live cd
[19:58] <xjjk> liz2: AFAIK puppy isn't very GUI-oriented... you do everything via the command line
[19:58] <xjjk> BluesKaj: not if she only has one CD drive
[19:59] <xjjk> Kubuntu's LIveCD doesn't allow you to load into RAM
[19:59] <BluesKaj> on the hdd
[19:59] <harjot> ok created and stuff [i jumped pwd]
[19:59] <xjjk> harjot: OK
[19:59] <BluesKaj> well, I've done it , rewrote grub
[19:59] <liz2> yes one cd drive and ond dvdrom
[19:59] <xjjk> harjot: just wondering, so kdm isn't starting automatically?
[20:00] <harjot> no
[20:00] <liz2> one^
[20:00] <xjjk> liz2: of, you've 2 drives?
[20:00] <harjot> because i installed kdm-kde4 and that took over as my display manager but i switched back and uninstalled it
[20:00] <harjot> and dont know how to change the settings
[20:00] <xjjk> harjot: what do you want to be using as your display manager
[20:01] <harjot> kdm [kdm-kde4 is uninstalled]
[20:01] <liz2> xjjk: one for cd writing the other for dvd
[20:01] <xjjk> liz2: can't you boot the LiveCD from the DVD drive?
[20:01] <xjjk> and write with the other?
[20:01] <harjot> btw it says login fai;ed as if there is a password for testuser
[20:01] <xjjk> harjot: er, you didn't set a password for testuser?
[20:01] <harjot> nope
[20:02] <xjjk> I don't think it let you set a blank password
[20:02] <BluesKaj> steve_, install kaffeine , vlc or mplayer or all ..VLC is prolly the best
[20:02] <harjot> i kept pressing enter
[20:02] <xjjk> harjot: set a password
[20:02] <harjot> it wanted a passsword probably know set the default pwd
[20:02] <xjjk> there isn't a default password
[20:02] <xjjk> that's *horrible* security
[20:02] <harjot> but then i cant type it in!!!!!!
[20:02] <liz2> xjjk: I don't know how, it only reads cd when booting, right?
[20:02] <xjjk> this is Linux, not Windows
[20:02] <xjjk> liz2: er, the DVD-ROM can read CDs too
[20:02] <harjot> ????
[20:03] <xjjk> it should be able to boot from that
[20:03] <xjjk> harjot: try setting a real password for testuser
[20:03] <steve_> BluesKaj:  I have installed mplayer and smplayer.  How to I tell "device notifier" to use one of them instead of Dragon Player.  I know that I can start them on the command line.  I just need to configure the gui to use them.
[20:03] <liz2> I meant the cd drive is the one that checks for a CD in the system when booting
[20:03] <harjot> ok done
[20:03] <xjjk> liz2: you usually can configure that
[20:03] <xjjk> steve_: which Kubuntu are you using
[20:04] <harjot> done
[20:04] <steve_> xjjk:  I am using 9.04
[20:04] <xjjk> steve_: AFAIK, that's in "File Assocations" in System Settings
[20:04] <harjot> yes it does log me in in tty with that pwd
[20:04] <xjjk> steve_: er actually sorry it isn't
[20:04] <liz2> by entering bios settings right?
[20:05] <xjjk> liz2: yes
[20:05] <liz2> how do I get there?
[20:05] <harjot> xjjk: done
[20:05] <xjjk> liz2: that dpends on your computer...
[20:05] <xjjk> harjot: OK... now try logging in with KDM with that user
[20:06] <harjot> minor problem. mY Keyboard is rendered as useless in kdm
[20:06] <steve_> xjjk:  I have not found anywhere in system settings that seems to control this.
[20:06] <xjjk> steve_: blah, sorry, I'm confusing KDE4 and KDE3
[20:06] <effie_jayx> hello all, I am using kubuntu on an asus aspire one, every once in a while as I minimize and maximize I would get garbled windows...
[20:06] <xjjk> KDE3 has an applet for this; KDE4 apparently does not
[20:06] <liz2> ah ok, well I'll try and look into that
[20:06] <steve_> xjjk:  Yeah. this would have been easy in KDE3
[20:07] <harjot> xjjk: my keyboard dont work in kdm
[20:07] <xjjk> harjot: mmm
[20:07] <xjjk> can you check whether there are any errors...
[20:07] <xjjk> in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:08] <JuJuBee> I have an ext3 partition I want to mount on startup.  do I just put /dev/sdb2  /mnt/mnt_point  into fstab?
[20:08] <kuark> heyal!
[20:09] <xjjk> steve_: maybe ask in #kde...
[20:09] <xjjk> JuJuBee: no, you need more than that
[20:09] <steve_> xjjk:  that will be my next step.  Thanks.
[20:09] <harjot> xjjk: so im stuck
[20:10] <kuark> i want to know why orca's magnifier doesn't work! :(
[20:10] <xjjk> harjot: anything in the logs
[20:10] <p-f> anything that requires 3d, be it Processing or Matlab's 3d graphs show up with a lot of black artefacts. Any ideas what might be wrong, or at least what other tests could help me narrow down the possibilities? Glxgears  seems ok.
[20:10] <harjot> err.. how do i look at logs from tty???
[20:10] <JuJuBee> xjjk: like what?  DO I need the UUID?
[20:10] <kuark> any computer I was tryng!
[20:10] <xjjk> JuJuBee: try: /dev/sdb2 /mnt/point ext3 defaults 0 0
[20:10] <harjot> xjjk: err.. how do i look at logs from tty???
[20:10] <xjjk> JuJuBee: notice the 3 extra things at the end ofthe line
[20:10] <xjjk> harjot: tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:11] <kuark> any computer I was tryng!
[20:11] <kuark> 7, 8
[20:11] <xjjk> harjot: you're not going to be able to copy and paste them
[20:11] <mrunagi> !mount
[20:12] <harjot> i can type it all quickly
[20:12] <kuark> !fstab
[20:13] <asraniel> is it normal that kubuntu experimental has kde 4.2.4 ? from what i know that kde isn't out yet.. for some time
[20:13] <xjjk> asraniel: I think it's being released this week I think
[20:13] <xjjk> asraniel: it's been tagged in SVN
[20:13] <asraniel> ah ok, thank you, i was just a little confused
[20:14] <xjjk> asraniel: the official release hasn't happened yet
[20:14] <xjjk> they coordinate all this PR stuff, write a pretty changelog/etc
[20:14] <asraniel> xjik:and just to be curious, you know if amarok 2.1 beta2 is comming to experimental?
[20:14] <xjjk> which has been done yet
[20:14] <xjjk> asraniel: no clue
[20:15] <harjot> xjjk: here it is
[20:15] <harjot> xjjk:
[20:15] <harjot> [20:12] <harjot> intel (0): Output Tv is connected to pipe none
[20:15] <harjot> [20:12] <harjot> intel(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 22
[20:15] <harjot> [20:13] <harjot> Then some wierd synaptics touchpad stuff that works then
[20:15] <harjot> [20:13] <harjot> AIGLX: suspending AIGLX clients for vt switch
[20:15] <harjot> [20:14] <harjot> intel (0) : xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 0
[20:15] <harjot> [20:14] <harjot> intel (0) : xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1
[20:15] <harjot> [20:14] <harjot> intel (0) : xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2
[20:15] <xjjk> harjot: don't paste into the channel
[20:15] <harjot> [20:14] <harjot> intel (0) : xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3
[20:15] <harjot> [20:14] <harjot> intel (0) : xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4
[20:15] <harjot> [20:14] <harjot> ingore the last line plz
[20:15] <xjjk> please use a pastebin
[20:15] <harjot> yeah i know soz didnt mean that
[20:15] <xjjk> it's OK
[20:15] <xjjk> harjot: mmm, I'm not sure what's going on
[20:16] <harjot> i would not like a fresh install as my pc is set up specially with toolchains for psp etc...
[20:16] <harjot> but would i have to???
[20:16] <harjot> btw
[20:16] <xjjk> harjot: it's looking as if... whatever is broken is probably fixable
[20:17] <JuJuBee> xjjk: thanks that works.
[20:17] <xjjk> but it's very difficult to fix things unless you are very comfortable on the command line
[20:17] <harjot> i have packages that need upgrading
[20:17] <harjot> but
[20:17] <xjjk> harjot: just wondering, did adept finish upgrading?
[20:17] <harjot> it fails to get them every time
[20:17] <harjot> yes
[20:17] <xjjk> how/why
[20:17] <_dr> hi
[20:18] <_dr> is there any way to get debug information out of the network manager?
[20:18] <_dr> i'm trying to connect to a wpa secured wlan, worked perfectly with ubuntu, however on kubuntu it won't
[20:19] <_dr> could it be that key has to be entered in ascii?
[20:19] <ign0ramus> _dr, check dmesg
[20:19] <harjot> xjjk: ok now im confused it says 151 not upgraded because they are probably 9.04 packages
[20:19] <xjjk> harjot: I'm confused what 9.04 has to do with this...
[20:19] <kuark> some orca users?
[20:19] <xjjk> were you upgrading to 9.04?
[20:19] <kuark> Orca
[20:19] <harjot> no
[20:19] <xjjk> how did you get 9.04 packages on your system
[20:19] <harjot> xjjk: no the 151 packages not upgraded were probaly 9.04 packages
[20:20] <harjot> but then again im gessing
[20:20] <xjjk> harjot: if you're running 8.04, it won't know 9.04 exists
[20:20] <_dennister> hey gang...having a bit of trouble configuring apt-proxy, can anyone help me with backend entries?
[20:20] <xjjk> harjot: on the command line, run sudo aptitude
[20:20] <_dr> dmesg wont help ign0ramus
[20:20] <harjot> oh cool man
[20:20] <harjot> thats so cool
[20:21] <harjot> yeah nxt
[20:21] <ign0ramus> _dr, as it contains wlan0 messages, it may, but you can try other methods
[20:21] <xjjk> harjot: type 'u'
[20:21] <_dr> i'm asking for others :)
[20:21] <xjjk> that will update your package lists
[20:21] <_dr> theres no wlan related output in my system log
[20:22] <harjot> some files were not donwloaded successfully
[20:22] <harjot> looks like none were
[20:22] <xjjk> what files were those
[20:22] <ign0ramus> _dr, ok, are there different wpa's (psk, enterprise, etc) that you can try?
[20:22] <harjot> could not resolve archive.ubuntu.com
[20:22] <xjjk> you'll get a rid line for those that were not downloaded successfully
[20:22] <_dr> ign0ramus: yeah
[20:22] <_dr> it's psk
[20:22] <ign0ramus> _dr, i use wicd, so i'm not sure what options the widget provides
[20:22] <harjot> um none of them were
[20:23] <_dr> mh
[20:23] <_dr> maybe i should hook up the laptop to ethernet and install wicd then
[20:23] <xjjk> harjot: you just said unable to resolve archive.ubuntu.com... that should be a red line AFAIK
[20:23] <harjot> yeah all is red
[20:23] <xjjk> harjot: that's a serious error
[20:23] <harjot> even with network cable + wireless
[20:23] <xjjk> is the machine connected to the Internet?
[20:23] <ign0ramus> _dr, i personally recommend it to almost everyone... networkmanager (and especially the kde widget) suck
[20:23] <harjot> ive tried both
[20:24] <harjot> um ive got to go 4 dinner be back soon
[20:24] <_dr> ok i'll try
[20:24] <_dr> thanks
[20:24] <xjjk> harjot: yeah I need to go as well
[20:24] <ign0ramus> _dr, np
[20:26] <pulaski> hello, can anyone suggest a more active channel to ask about nfs than #nfs?
[20:31] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, afaik there's a fix for the Network Manager Plasma-widget on launchpad : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/378145
[20:31] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, good to know, but i've ditched it completely
[20:32] <BluesKaj> yeah , it's a roll back
[20:39] <harjot> xjjk: back yet?????
[20:51] <harjot> xjjk: back yert???
[20:53] <LoreCaster> Hey all, it's been a while. I've got a challenge for you... Some of you may recall that I require autocad for my work, but it does not work in wine, and vbox is sluggish... I only have one tower and cannot afford a second... so KVM is out... I want to be able to parallel-boot my machine... quad-core 2.2hgx, 4gb ram. ideas?
[20:53] <LoreCaster> ubuntu 9.04... if that helps, and i want to run windows xp
[20:55] <LoreCaster> i've heard this concept referred to as simultaneous-boot and parallel-boot
[20:56] <harjot> do u mean select which option then boot into it??
[20:56] <Shaan7_> harjot: he means booting both simultaneously
[20:56] <harjot> at the same time???
[20:56] <LoreCaster> not really... that's easy. What i want to do is have capacity of running ONE computer as if i have a KVM... because i just can't get the performance out of a vbox
[20:56] <harjot> i wish i could do that
[20:57] <LoreCaster> at the same time. I remember seeing a gadget when i was in college... it had 4 buttons on it, it was a KVM box that was INSIDE one computer... two HDD's spun up simultaneously
[20:57] <harjot> i have a dual boot but i cant run both at the same timw
[20:57] <LoreCaster> i need to...
[20:57] <harjot> thats amazing never seen it before
[20:57] <Shaan7_> LoreCaster: asked the VBox guys if there are some preformance tweaks ?
[20:58] <Shaan7_> or its no use ?
[20:58] <LoreCaster> been there... nothing seems to work.
[20:58] <harjot> i dont know
[20:58] <Shaan7_> *performance
[20:58] <LoreCaster> Autocad is a heavy 3D app, vbox doesn't like 3D much
[20:58] <harjot> but i need them to add graphocing support
[20:58] <harjot> how about vmware??
[20:59] <Shaan7_> Hey All, Is network manager support still broken in kubuntu 9.04 ? It still can't connect to my static IP network, my mobile dial-up etc where it all works in ubuntu (the gnome one)
[21:02] <LoreCaster> trying VM ware
[21:02] <harjot> dang
[21:06] <harjot> does anybody know how to make a repair cd for 8.04 as i dont know what to do with the files from the livecd [i dont know which files to copy]
[21:06] <urbi> hello
[21:06] <harjot> hi
[21:06] <harjot> does anybody know how to make a repair cd for 8.04 as i dont know what to do with the files from the livecd [i dont know which files to copy]
[21:07] <harjot> nobody?
[21:08] <harjot> guys r u all alslepp no offence LOLOGAE!!
[21:09] <harjot> ok i give up
[21:09] <liz> omg! got linux to login using supergrubdisk and grub commands!!!!
[21:10] <HADES2> hey guys i need help at ubunt
[21:10] <HADES2> any volutier ?
[21:10] <HADES2> its a sudo su problem
[21:11] <HADES2> ANY one can give me some help
[21:11] <harjot> hades i think all is asleep
[21:11] <HADES2> :P
[21:11] <harjot> there not thre
[21:11] <harjot> but wats ur prob??
[21:12] <HADES2> i cant sudo su in console
[21:12] <HADES2> autentication falid
[21:12] <harjot> sudo su??!?!?!?!!
[21:12] <HADES2> i can login as su
[21:12] <HADES2> but i cant manage my system
[21:12] <harjot> ur using ubuntu???
[21:13] <HADES2> Yes
[21:13] <relive> will 9.04 ISO image install on a 16 GB usb flash drive?  i don't want to install it on my hard drive
[21:13] <HADES2> harjot thank is advance
[21:13] <harjot> it will but it will be quite slow but then again im not 100%
[21:13] <harjot> 16gb is quite big
[21:14] <harjot> ok so su prbolem
[21:14] <relive> harjot, my concern is out of the box compatibility of the ISO image itself.
[21:14] <liz> anyone know the minimum space needed to install/test puppylinux??
[21:14] <HADES2> yep
[21:15] <harjot> it should put the files correctly on the drive
[21:15] <relive> don't want to dig around or mount and mount the iso image to make changes
[21:15] <HADES2> but it works ok till today
[21:15] <harjot> hades what exactly do u wanna do with su?
[21:16] <HADES2> install drivers
[21:16] <harjot> have you another account with root priviledges??
[21:16] <HADES2> but its the firstaccount user
[21:16] <HADES2> its have 1000 acess
[21:17] <HADES2> no its the only account
[21:17] <liz> don't you only need to write 'sudo commandyouwant and then password when it's prompted'?
[21:17] <harjot> well im not exactly sure how to fix but u could also change another account to have 1000 access????
[21:17] <HADES2> i do that
[21:17] <HADES2> sudo su
[21:17] <HADES2> and promp to password
[21:17] <harjot> lol that command boggggggles my brain
[21:18] <harjot> well im not exactly sure how to fix but u could also change another account to have 1000 access????
[21:18] <HADES2> and i enter the pass and autentication failed
[21:18] <Guest74803> hello
[21:18] <harjot> change the pass for su]
[21:18] <HADES2> dont work
[21:18] <HADES2> i try it before
[21:18] <Guest74803> byebye
[21:18] <Mamarok> folks, you should not use su...
[21:18] <harjot> even from command line???
[21:18] <HADES2> its a difrent pass now
[21:18] <harjot> su is quite annoying
[21:19] <adz21c> Hi, I am running kubuntu 9.04 x64. For some reason xorg seems to be consuming a rather large amount of memory (985MB). Has anyone encountered similar issues? All I have run so far is kaffeine (for a DVD) and virtualbox, I had compositing enabled at one point but disabled in the hopes it would fix the issue, but it didn't.
[21:19] <liz> can't u just use 'sudo' instead of 'sudo su'
[21:19] <Mamarok> HADES2: there is no root in Kubuntu
[21:19] <harjot> hes using ubuntu
[21:19] <Shaan7_> HADES2: su won't work in ubuntu as per i know
[21:19] <HADES2> i use adduser comand
[21:19] <Mamarok> HADES2: you can run all admin tasks with sudo
[21:19] <HADES2> and the passwd one
[21:19] <HADES2> it dont work guys
[21:19] <Shaan7_> HADES2: but if you want to enable the root account (not recommended) use sudo passwd and set a password
[21:20] <HADES2> wait i will give u a log
[21:20] <Mamarok> HADES2: also, if you use Ubuntu, you should check for support in #ubuntu
[21:20] <Mamarok> Shaan7_: that's not recommended...
[21:20] <HADES2> hades@hades-nix:~$ sudo su
[21:20] <HADES2> [sudo] password for hades:
[21:20] <HADES2> Sorry, try again.
[21:20] <HADES2> [sudo] password for hades:
[21:20] <Shaan7_> Mamarok: ya, i told him
[21:20] <Mamarok> HADES2: sudo <command>
[21:20] <Shaan7_> HADES2: what do you expect from sudo su BTW ?
[21:21] <HADES2> got root
[21:21] <Shaan7_> HADES2: makes no sense to me ....
[21:21] <harjot> he wanted to install drivers
[21:21] <harjot> because su has 1000 access
[21:21] <Shaan7_> HADES2: which drivers ?
[21:21] <HADES2> atheros
[21:21] <Mamarok> HADES2: you should install with sudo
[21:21] <HADES2> another strange thing is
[21:21] <Mamarok> HADES2: the wiki driver is in the repositories
[21:21] <harjot> atheros i can help
[21:21] <harjot> madwifi???
[21:22] <Shaan7_> HADES2: just use sudo before every command in the atheros instructions
[21:22] <harjot> hades madwifi????
[21:22] <Mamarok> harjot: this will not highlight him, use tab completion for the nick
[21:22] <harjot> HADES2: madwifi
[21:22] <Shaan7_> Mamarok: i have a stupid idea for HADES2 (dont try) - sudo bash :P
[21:22] <Mamarok> Shaan7_: not funny...
[21:22] <HADES2> i can log whit su when i user ctrl + alt f2
[21:22]  * Shaan7_ hides
[21:23] <HADES2> and i get root
[21:23] <HADES2> so its a gui problem or something
[21:23] <harjot> hades u usiong madwifi>???
[21:23] <HADES2> yes
[21:23] <HADES2> driver is installed but i cant activate it
[21:23] <HADES2> because autentication fail
[21:23] <Mamarok> HADES2: if you are using Gnome, you should go to #ubuntu for support
[21:24] <harjot> just navigate to the folder
[21:24] <HADES2> thanks guys
[21:24] <harjot> open terminal
[21:24] <harjot> type make
[21:24] <harjot> make install
[21:24] <harjot> then type sudo modprobe ath_pci
[21:24] <harjot> restart and then it should work
[21:24] <harjot> if not
[21:25] <harjot> i have specialized version that always work
[21:25] <harjot> ok
[21:25] <HADES2> WARNING: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/net/ath_hal.ko': No such file or directory
[21:25] <HADES2> WARNING: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/net/wlan.ko': No such file or directory
[21:25] <HADES2> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/net/ath_pci.ko': No such file or directory
[21:25] <harjot> just a sec let me assess
[21:26] <HADES2> hou can i set pass for root ?
[21:26] <harjot> try sudo make clean
[21:26] <HADES2> ok
[21:26] <harjot> sudo amke
[21:26] <harjot> sudo make
[21:26] <harjot> sudo make install
[21:26] <Mamarok> HADES2: you do not need to, you can use sudo for all commands
[21:26] <harjot> and see whatt happpens
[21:26] <Mamarok> harjot: its make, then sudo make install
[21:26] <HADES2> read :P
[21:27] <harjot> i always do sudo make to avoid confusion
[21:27] <HADES2> hades@hades-nix:~$ make clean
[21:27] <HADES2> make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
[21:27] <HADES2> hades@hades-nix:~$ sudo make
[21:27] <HADES2> [sudo] password for hades:
[21:27] <HADES2> Sorry, try again.
[21:27] <HADES2> [sudo] password for hades:
[21:27] <Mamarok> !paste | HADES2
[21:27] <harjot> no not make clean
[21:27] <HADES2> see autenticatiin falid
[21:27] <harjot> yes make clean
[21:28] <harjot> change ur pssssword
[21:28] <HADES2> harjot ty for you help
[21:28] <harjot> have u changed it yet???
[21:28] <HADES2> i will try found a fix in ubut forums
[21:28] <harjot> oh cool
[21:28] <HADES2> i will activate root
[21:28] <HADES2> and adduser
[21:28] <harjot> ok [risaky!!!}
[21:29] <HADES2> thanks for you help
[21:29] <harjot> no problem
[21:31] <nightdrever> how do i fix.....
[21:31] <nightdrever> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 7889D725DA6DEEAAGPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't 
[21:31] <nightdrever> key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 632D16BB0C713DA6GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 28A8205077558DD0GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2ED6BB6042C24D89GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty 
[21:31] <nightdrever> couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 6AF0E1940624A220GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 6E871C4A881574DEGPG error: http://deb.opera.com lenny Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 033431536A423791GPG erro
[21:31] <nightdrever> Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A040830F7FAC5991Failed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages  404 Not Found [IP: 130.117.72.43 80]
[21:31] <nightdrever> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:31] <nightdrever> oops didnt think was that big sorry
[21:31] <Mamarok> !paste | nightdrever
[21:32] <Mamarok> nightdrever: you have to install the gpgp key to be able to download packages from a PPA
[21:32] <Mamarok> gpg*
[21:32] <nightdrever> how do i do that?
[21:32] <Mamarok> wait, I tell you
[21:33] <nightdrever> thanks
[21:33] <Mamarok> nightdrever: and you are sure you want to install all these repositories?
[21:33] <nightdrever> why not?
[21:33] <Mamarok> and you know how to handle those for installtion, e.g. choosing packages manually?
[21:34] <nightdrever> im a complete newbie to this all
[21:34] <Mamarok> nightdrever: it's a security warning, and if you are a newbie you should not use these PPAs
[21:34] <nightdrever> ok so how do i fix these?
[21:35] <Mamarok> nightdrever: I suggest you remove those entries from the sources.list
[21:35] <nightdrever> how do i get to my source list?
[21:35] <nightdrever> and do i just delete al the ppa ones?
[21:35] <Mamarok> nightdrever: where did you get those from then?
[21:35] <nightdrever> jaunty
[21:36] <Mamarok> I don't think so, PPAs are not added automatically
[21:36] <nightdrever> has website.......what todo after install ubuntu 9.04
[21:37] <Mamarok> nightdrever: PPA repositories are for special cases, so if you do not know how to handle those, you should really remove them, the same way you added them
[21:38] <nightdrever> how do i get to my sources list?
[21:38] <Mamarok> nightdrever: don't you remember how you added those?
[21:38] <nightdrever> nope
[21:38] <Mamarok> nightdrever: you use Kubuntu, right?
[21:38] <nightdrever> i read it of webpage
[21:38] <nightdrever> ubuntu 9.04
[21:39] <Mamarok> nightdrever: you can edit the repository list with synaptic then
[21:39] <Mamarok> the package manager
[21:40] <juan> ubuntu.esorg
[21:40] <Mamarok> juan: do you need help?
[21:42] <juan> espanish
[21:43] <Mamarok> !es | juan
[21:44] <katoda> hi, does anybody have problem with flash taking whole audio device (/dev/dsp) in Kubuntu Jaunty?
[21:44] <Mamarok> katoda: that is not Kubuntu specific, but flash :)
[21:44] <katoda> Mamarok: Amarok also takes whole audio device
[21:45] <Mamarok> katoda: do you use pulseaudio?
[21:45] <katoda> I've installed it
[21:45] <adz21c> Hi, I am running kubuntu 9.04 x64. For some reason xorg seems to be consuming a rather large amount of memory (900-1300MB). Has anyone encountered similar issues? All I have run so far is kaffeine (for a DVD) and virtualbox, I had compositing enabled at one point but disabled in the hopes it would fix the issue, but it didn't.
[21:46] <Mamarok> katoda: bad idea, KDE doesn't use it and pulseaudio hogs the devices...
[21:46] <katoda> Mamarok: I've found it as a solution to no simultanous sound in jaunty
[21:46] <katoda> so I tried it
[21:46] <ptl> huh?
[21:46] <ptl> pulseaudio works wonderfully for me
[21:46] <ptl> in KDE
[21:46] <katoda> but the fresh install (without pulseaudio) also didn't work :(
[21:46] <ptl> and yes, KDE usesit
[21:46] <Mamarok> katoda: yes, for Gnome, but not for KDE, as you can see
[21:47] <ptl> Yes, for KDE, it works for me fully and completely with now flaws.
[21:47] <Mamarok> ptl: that's simply not true, KDE doesn't use pulseaudio, ask the kde devs
[21:47] <ptl> As long as it can use alsa, it uses pulseaudio
[21:47] <katoda> adz21c: please paste the result of `free`
[21:47] <Mamarok> and there is no need for it, especially not with Amarok
[21:47] <katoda> (to a pastebin)
[21:48] <Mamarok> Amarok uses the xine backend and pulseaudio doesn't work well with xine
[21:48] <katoda> Mamarok: I can choose Pulseaudio in Phonon settings
[21:48] <ptl> hmmm
[21:48] <ptl> I am looking at my KDE sound config
[21:48] <ptl> and there's pulseaudio everywhere
[21:48] <ptl> so, yes, KDE uses pulseaudio directly.
[21:48] <katoda> ptl: can you get simultanous sound (amarok & flash)?
[21:48] <adz21c> katoda: well, currently its not, since i last sent that message i had to reboot (i wasn't monitoring memory but i think xorg took over my memory, some sort of leak), does that matter?
[21:48] <Mamarok> katoda: yes, I know, because you installed it, and now you have problems
[21:48] <ptl> katoda: yes
[21:49] <ptl> amarok, flash, mplayer, kaffeine and everything
[21:49] <katoda> Mamarok: I had problems *before* I've installed it
[21:49] <Mamarok> ptl: of course it shows up in phonon, but there is no KDE application that would need pulseaudio, period.
[21:49] <ptl> also I can record sounds while I listen to them too
[21:49]  * Mamarok gives up
[21:49] <ptl> Mamarok: maybe they don't need byt they still use it if they use alsa.
[21:49] <Mamarok> katoda, ptl then sort this yourself, but don't ask for my help
[21:50] <liz> can anyone tell me what's going on when I transfer files to a usb and it takes up space but the files themselves don't appear???
[21:50] <Mamarok> ptl: phonon can handle alsa without the need of pulseaudio
[21:50] <ptl> you don't need to get angry just because you don't like pulseaudio
[21:50] <katoda> ptl: could You guide me how to config pulseaudio correctly?
[21:50] <katoda> or give any manual?
[21:50] <ptl> katoda: I just followed a wiki in ubuntu.com, let me check if I can get you the URL.
[21:51] <Mamarok> ptl: it will not work with Amarok, we are sorting this out with nearly all Jaunty users since the release, pluseadio hogs the sound and does not work with xine, period.
[21:51] <katoda> adz21c: Linux generally has very aggresive RAM policy (it caches everything what's possible)
[21:51]  * Mamarok knows what she is talking about
[21:52] <katoda> Mamarok: for me it's irrelevant what I'll use, as long as it'll work ;)
[21:53] <katoda> (GNOME doesn't work for me ;))
[21:54] <agor> Hey! Im trying to play Texas Hold 'Em on Facebook (made by Zynga) and when I'm in the lobby I cant see the text where the tables or my friends are listed... Im using Firefox and flashplugin-nonfree. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[21:54] <Mamarok> katoda: the rule is: remove pulseaudio, remove .asoundconf in your home (if there is one), remove .kde/hare/config/phonondevicesrc, restart KDE
[21:55] <Mamarok> katoda: make sure you have the phonon-xine-backend and libxine1-ffmpeg installed and the it should work
[21:55] <ptl> amarok 2.0.2 is running now perfectly and its sound stream appears in pavucontrol
[21:55] <ptl> I am just testing what you said don't work
[21:55] <ptl> it's working
[21:55] <Mamarok> no warranty for flash though, it sometimes eats the sound in the browser on 64bit
[21:56] <katoda> Mamarok: I have 32bits
[21:56] <Mamarok> ptl: if you know better...
[21:56]  * Mamarok gives up
[21:56] <ptl> katoda: I found this stuff here, but this isn't what I used: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PulseAudio
[21:57] <ptl> I am still searching tho
[21:58] <katoda> ptl: thanks in advance for your help :)
[21:58] <ptl> Mamarok: check it out, http://patola.org/amaraudio.png
[21:59] <Mamarok> ptl: could you make this smaller? 0.5 Mb for an image...
[22:00] <ptl> Mamarok: I'll convert to a jpg. Hold on.
[22:00] <Mamarok> ptl: just reduce the size, png is ok
[22:00] <ptl> done, try it now, http://patola.org/amarok.jpg
[22:00] <katoda> ptl: 404
[22:00] <ptl> ops
[22:00] <ptl> oops
[22:01] <ptl> http://patola.org/amaraudio.jpg
[22:01] <ptl> sorry, my bad
[22:01] <ptl> 185 kb
[22:01] <katoda> ptl: where do you get such volume control app?
[22:01] <ptl> katoda: here, I followed this, http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
[22:02] <ptl> katoda: it is pavucontrol, it comes with pulseaudio
[22:02] <ptl> you can even redirect streams from apps to other apps, it's very nice
[22:03] <Mamarok> ptl: that works for me too, I just don't use pulseaudio, and again, the KDE apps do not need it
[22:03] <ptl> katoda: you can also get other setup things here, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=12497
[22:03] <ptl> these are the two pages I followed
[22:03] <Mamarok> ptl: you are just one of those lucky exceptions for whom it works well
[22:03] <ptl> Mamarok: this linux.com article convinced me otherwise --
[22:04] <ptl> http://www.linux.com/news/hardware/drivers/8100-why-you-should-care-about-pulseaudio-and-how-to-start-doing-it
[22:04] <Mamarok> ptl: yeah, and we at Amarok ar idiot, of course...
[22:04] <ptl> anyway, I chose to use it for practical reasons. Unify all sound architectures on linux, big thing.
[22:04] <ptl> no, I didn't say that, and nothing implies it
[22:04] <katoda> ptl: Phonon also does it ;)
[22:05] <ptl> katoda: phonon is yet-another-architecture that proposes it, but pulseaudio embraces all other instead of conflicting.
[22:05] <ptl> there are just too many choices... not good.
[22:05] <katoda> ptl: don't know, haven't developed any sound-using app
[22:05] <ptl> pulseaudio works with them all and works OK for an unifying solution that doesn't try to force its own way.
[22:06] <Mamarok> ptl: please do not recommend the use of pulseaudio in this channel, we have to sort it out with all those it doesn't work, and believe me, I talk of experience...
[22:07]  * Mamarok doesn't want to spend all day long sorting audio and sound problems again and again
[22:07] <Mamarok> that really doesn't help for those who do support every day here
[22:08] <ptl> hm.
[22:08] <ptl> Don't you think you're exaggerating?
[22:08] <Mamarok> ptl: it is responsible for the majority of sound problems people have in Kubuntu, so it's really not a good idea
[22:09] <sorset> hi , i feel writing in usb harddisk and flash memory since i installed kubuntu 9.04 is very low...anyone has this problem? can i solve it?
[22:09] <Mamarok> ptl: not at all, I do support here and in #amarok every day
[22:09] <katoda> Mamarok: maybe it'll sound strange, but the links from ptl eventually solved my problem ;)
[22:10] <ptl> Ok, I won't recommend, but if someone, like katoda, asks for help on how to setup, I can't agree I shouldn't help.
[22:10] <Mamarok> katoda: lucky you then
[22:10] <katoda> I'm also an lucky exception though ;)
[22:11] <Mamarok> ptl: that's ok as long as it works, but we have made other experiences, and we do sound in #amarok all day long :)
[22:32] <agor> Hey! Im trying to play Texas Hold 'Em on Facebook (made by Zynga) and when I'm in the lobby I cant see the text where the tables or my friends are listed... Im using Firefox and flashplugin-nonfree. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[22:34] <carolija> agor:  did u install plugin for firefox ?
[22:35] <agor> C00LAR0w:
[22:35] <agor> woops
[22:35] <agor> carolija: what plugin? the flash plugin?
[22:36] <carolija> agor: wan u can see something like that h give u a option to install a flash plugin
[22:36] <carolija> automaticly or manualy
[22:36] <agor> carolija: yeah i did
[22:36] <carolija> u should close firefox and instal it manualy
[22:37] <agor> carolija: ok, i'll try... thanks
[22:37] <carolija> and u have close the firefox whan u did the instalation ?
[22:37] <carolija> ok, np
[22:37] <carolija> just close it
[23:01] <tsukasa__> hi any command to install the realplayer plugins
[23:11] <ToreadorVampire> Hmm, any reason why the Kubuntu people decided to include Dragon Player as the default video player in Jaunty?  It seems somewhat inferior to (for example) VLC Player
[23:11] <ToreadorVampire> I mean - I appreciate that I can replace it pretty darn easily (and shall in a couple of seconds) - but I wonder why the choice was made ...
[23:13] <BluesKaj> ToreadorVampire, Dragon player works well IMO ...inferior in what way ?
[23:14] <ToreadorVampire> BluesKaj> Just - missing a lot of functionality that VLC has
[23:14] <ToreadorVampire> ... then again - VLC does just about anything imaginable where it comes to audio/video (except maybe library management) ...
[23:15] <BluesKaj> it's just a lightweight player ...not meant to be a VLC replacement
[23:15] <ToreadorVampire> ... but things like aspect-ratio changing, cropping, all sorts of stuff
[23:15] <ToreadorVampire> Mmm - I guess the only reason could be "it's lightweight"
[23:15] <BluesKaj> I din't see that at all
[23:16] <BluesKaj> played some 235:1 aspects without any probs
[23:19] <finley> hi @ all