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macvrSiDi: hi... could u hav a look at the breathe submissions wiki... i'v uploaded another set, changed the nm-50 color too :) ...  any comments?10:41
SiDialright, give me a sec10:41
SiDiim jubilating for my first gstreamer hello world app compiling and working !10:41
macvrwhats the hello world app? any links?10:42
SiDiHeh, its just watching for volume change signals10:42
macvrok...10:43
SiDiI like that little glow around the signal stripes10:43
SiDihow does it render in 24x24 though ?10:43
macvrthe glow? faintly...10:44
macvrif the glow is a little larger then it looks horrible in 24x24!10:44
SiDiplease render the icons and add them to submissions :P10:44
SiDi<- lazy10:44
macvrshould u use gimp to convert them to 24x24 or how do i scale in inkscape?10:45
macvr^I10:45
SiDiyou should use inkscape10:46
SiDictrl+shift+e to render to bitmap10:46
SiDiwell, i suppose its the way to do10:46
SiDiyouu might want to ask the actual Breathe devs :]10:47
macvroh i just use the 128x128 to render the 24x4 png?10:47
SiDidont resize png's :p10:48
SiDiuse the svg to make lower resolution png's10:48
SiDihttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ebreathe-dev/breathe-icon-set/trunk/download/head:/breathe_icon_templat-20080905042226-bvdzo9fb8th94dyh-3/Breathe_Icon_Template.svg?file_id=template-20080905042226-bvdzo9fb8th94dyh-210:48
macvrok... i was about to resize in gimp...! just now saw the option to resize as png..,!10:49
macvrah not the template... ! i get headaches trying to figure it out :P10:49
SiDi:p10:53
SiDiyou _must_ use it for submissions :D10:54
macvrit is just "recomended" :P10:56
macvrSiDi: uploaded the 24x24 .. :)11:10
SiDiI barely see the antenna now ^^11:12
SiDibut the stripes look quite good11:12
macvryeah ... the antannae is just to maintain the aspect of the wireless icon :P...11:12
SiDii'll test them live later and see what it gives with my panel11:13
macvri tested these colors with light/dark/transparent panels... works fine11:13
macvrSiDi: u use xubuntu right? is there an icon set brave /bravo? i think it has similar wireless icons but all green... do u have the icon set?11:15
SiDihm11:16
SiDii use xubuntu yeh11:16
SiDibut i use Human/breathe as an icon theme :p11:16
SiDithe gnome-brave ones are similar yeh11:16
macvrits just i saw the icon set in xubuntu and would like to compare if i could make any improvements... could u upload the set to the web?11:17
SiDierr, download it from gnome-look ;)11:18
SiDior install xubuntu-artwork \o/11:18
macvris it there?11:18
SiDiyeh11:18
macvri tried searching... let me look again!11:19
macvr_MMA_: hi... have u checked the ones i'v uploaded today, are they better ?13:21
_MMA_macvr: I think they are. I want kwwii (since he's done like icon) or Sebastien to chime in on the mailing list.13:23
macvr_MMA_:ok.. oh... i forgot the mailing list... i'll send a mail too..13:25
_MMA_np13:25
_MMA_macvr: Only a few people are subscribed to the page edits.13:26
macvr_MMA_: yeah... i keep forgetting the mailing list...!13:26
SiDiI actually stopped following the page edits cause of massive spam it generates, personally :]13:27
_MMA_hahaha. Like the list isn't. :P13:27
SiDi_MMA_, btw i understand your point about moderated lists :D there have been a few epic "contributions" lately. Like that solaris manzur guy13:28
_MMA_SiDi: I'm on so many lists can you gimmie a link?13:29
* _MMA_ also got off some lately though.13:29
SiDihttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2009-May/author.html bottom of page13:30
_MMA_Oh I forgot all about him.13:33
_MMA_There will always be people who have an opposing view.13:33
SiDiwell, it would be good if he was actually capable of explaining his point of view :]13:34
SiDiinstead of trolling so hard13:34
_MMA_What will kill alot of people is that we're not doing something Tango-esque. And the fact that it's a design decision.13:34
_MMA_Well I dont think English is his native language. So folks like that often use words that at their face seem very harsh for a native speaker.13:36
SiDitrue13:36
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pinheirohey20:45
pinheiroany one here from the brethe icon set?20:45
SiDinot at the moment, afaik20:45
SiDigot a message for them ? :P20:46
pinheirono just wondering what it was20:46
pinheiro:)20:46
pinheiroseams prety based on oxygen and as oxygen maintainer i was wondering :)20:46
SiDiits based on oxygen indeed :)20:46
SiDi"Because Human needs Oxygen" is the subtitle of Breathe20:47
pinheiro:)20:47
pinheirocheking it out20:49
pinheiroits prety difrent20:49
pinheirocouple of icons are oxygen20:51
SiDiits orange, maybe ? :P20:51
pinheirobut most no20:51
pinheiroyeah very orange20:52
SiDithey designed all the icons on their own, some are heavily based on oxygen, and some have been created from scratch20:52
pinheiroand my gess alot of difrent people working on them20:52
pinheirocouple of difrent styles20:52
pinheirobut best of luck on the project20:53
pinheiroseams a prety cool idea20:53
SiDiNot that many people actually20:53
SiDimost of the icons are from about 3/4 people20:53
SiDibut they did an awesome work :P Its rare to see actively developed icon themes20:53
pinheiroyeah20:54
pinheiroits a monster work20:54
pinheiroa complete icon set is in the range of the 2500 icons20:55
pinheirofredesktop is just about 400 i think20:55
pinheirostill quite a big work20:55
SiDiwell, there are many symlinks though20:55
SiDiif major DEs would agree on cleaning their icons' naming it would help a lot20:56
pinheiroooo that is doen20:56
pinheirodone20:56
pinheirocheck out full oxygen20:56
pinheiroits all fredesktop naming compatible20:56
pinheiroat least all ok kde is or iss soon becoming completly freedesktop naming compatible20:57
SiDii wouldnt say the same of xfce^^ there are a few weird names here n there20:58
pinheiroin all icons not just the specific fredesktop ones20:58
pinheiroSiDi: some one needs to talk to  xfce^^ people then20:58
pinheiro:)20:58
pinheiroi have a prety hard time convincing the kde developers20:59
SiDioh well, i dont think they have the time to go through it all now :P ill file bug reports one day or another, and provide patches wherever i can20:59
SiDiKDE has like 10x more developers than xfce, if not more20:59
pinheiroactualy we removed oxygen from kdebase to kdesuport so we can control that so developers just use the icons from oxygen21:00
SiDiwhats the difference ?21:00
pinheirothey dont include icons any more21:00
SiDiim totally ignorant about kde stuff :D21:00
pinheirooxygen is a dependency21:00
pinheiroa kde app as no icons21:00
pinheiroits dependent on oxygen21:01
pinheirothat avoids the usual icon duplication21:01
pinheiroso we are creting a rather large colection of good icons names21:02
SiDiwow, im not understanding at all :D21:02
pinheiro:)21:02
pinheirosay app xyz they nedd 23 icons21:03
pinheirofor all theyr tasks21:03
pinheirooxygen makes those icons and names them21:03
SiDiand it only installs these ?21:03
pinheirono21:03
pinheirothey require oxygen as a dependency21:03
SiDihm, so you let KDE devs chose the icons they need and you _make_ the icons ?21:03
pinheiroyeap21:03
pinheirohttp://tinyurl.com/33qfzs21:04
pinheirohey swalko21:04
SiDiWow ! :P21:05
pinheiroyes oxygen makes the icons and names them in a fredesktop way21:05
pinheirothat avoids duplication21:05
pinheiromaking the same icon for 3 difrent apps and every time a bit difrently21:05
swalkopinheiro: hi21:06
pinheiroswalko: cheking out what breath is21:08
pinheiro:)21:08
swalkopinheiro: breathe?21:09
pinheirohttps://launchpad.net/breathe-icon-set21:10
swalkopinheiro: for me breathe isnt as good as it want to be or as it may be21:10
pinheirowell oxygen took alot of time to define its style21:11
pinheirowas the worts part of the process21:11
pinheiroabout 2 years21:11
pinheiroso i would give them time21:12
swalkopinheiro: you and oxygen in overall have experience21:12
swalkopinheiro: in creating icons and things around21:12
pinheiroyes21:13
pinheiroexperience is aquiered by doing stuf21:13
swalkopinheiro: like creatings small icon sizes, exporting and etc21:13
pinheiroyeah21:13
swalkopinheiro: i created only one or two icons for oxygen, but it was big experience for me to work with you and oxygen too21:14
pinheirowas i meen?21:14
pinheiroi usualy am21:15
pinheiro:P21:15
pinheirobit of a ovely critical person21:15
pinheiroso if i was plese sory21:15
pinheiroonestly21:15
swalkopinheiro: i am critical too, your critics was my motor :)21:17
pinheiro:)21:17
pinheiroany way best of luck for breath21:17
pinheirothere is not enough orange in the world21:17
pinheiro:D21:17
swalkopinheiro: :)21:18
pinheirowe alrady took blue :P21:18
pinheirohehehehe just been declied as a member of the breathe team :)21:40
pinheirohehehehhe21:40
dashuaSiDi: Rev. 37 when you get a change.  Should be a bit more consistent.21:49
dashuachance*21:49
SiDipulled :D21:50
dashuaIf it looks good to you and have time for xwfm, I'll make a page and a release21:50
dashua.121:50
SiDigreat :)21:51
dashua:)21:51
SiDiill do the xfwm in a few days then21:51
dashuaAwesome21:51
dashuaI need to figure out releases on launchpad21:52
dashuaShould be fairly simple21:52
SiDibut i'll make an alternate xfwm4 folder with the previous metacity too, cause i <3'd it :D21:52
dashuaOk np21:52
SiDiyeh. you just make the deb, and go post a big "RELEASED" on planet21:52
dashuaHa, I have no planet axx21:52
SiDime neither ^^21:53
dashuaMaybe I'll try for membership some day, but I do not feel worthy enough just yet =/21:53
dashuaDoes the old metacity still look good with the newest revision?21:55
dashuaI guess it would.21:55
dashuaAll dark.21:55
dashua- the gradient21:55
SiDiYes it does :)21:59
SiDithe toolbar color isnt the same21:59
dashuaIronic, Breathe is missing from Ubuntu-Art.org21:59
SiDibut with the same color i think it'd be sexy-ish21:59
SiDioh :P indeed21:59
dashuaI'll see if I can match the colors (old metacity)22:00

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